Doom: The Dark Ages - Technical preview - Game previews 2024
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2024
- ID Software showed an impressive return to darker times with Doom The Dark Ages. From gameplay, scale, scope and technological improvements the demo showed us a good slice of what we can expect of the new IDtech 8 come 2025. I get back to my roots with a preview of what we saw, what it may mean and why the art, style and sound could be right off the cover of an Iron Maiden album.
Chapters
0:00 Introduction on games to come
0:39 DooM Dark Ages initial thoughts & Art style and musical inspiration
1:50 Image quality and TSSAA with comparisons to DooM 2016
3:00 Was it PC or Xbox Series X and performance testing including Vulkan
3:54 Texture quality improvements, geometry and weapons
6:10 Real gameplay examples, memory and other signs
6:40 Gameplay changes, combat, scale and tactical gameplay
7:42 Volumetrics increases, Ray Tracing and improving solidity
9:14 Size of maps, what this means, memory streaming increases
10:42 Summary of initial thoughts
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Can we get a shout out for that amazing per-pixel motion blur? ID's motion blur is unmatched!!
I just wish there was a way to separate camera blur from object-based motion blur like some games allow.
It's like Painkiller on steroids and I love it!
Always a joy to watch a new tech evaluation video from NXGamer.
Excellent to hear and many thanks for sticking around.
ID Tech rules
1) The company is called "id Software".
2) It's "id". Not "ID".
@@DeadPixel1105 They meant the engine which is called id Tech
@@DeadPixel1105 🙄 It's iD Tech
Yes and No
It is never capitalised
I know we won't be getting Mick Gordon but I hope we at least get Andrew Hulshult for the music.
We better. Was that not him in the trailer?
It sounds like Andrew, but I have not seen any official comment yet. Still stings what they did to Mick Gordan, crappy way to treat a huge cog in DooM's rebirth.
@NXGamer absolutely. I'm pretty pissed about it because Marty is still doing interviews with Hugo Martin as if nothing happened. Mick had so many receipts that I have a hard time believing Marty isn't a total asshole and responsible for the whole thing.
Who cares it’s old news - onwards and upwards for them both.. was getting a bit bored of Micks works tbh, new direction for Doom and new sound/music design. 👍
@@HugoStiglitz88 What "receipts" did Mick have? Please give specific examples. What specific screenshots did Mick provide that proves that Marty and the other id Software guys mistreated and disrespected him constantly? Because after looking at all of the "receipts", all I could see are messages that Mick sent to others. There are no screenshots of messages Mick received from others. Which is bizarre. He claimed that Marty Stratton would often write him emails going off on him, talking down to him, insulting him, etc. Yet, Mick didn't provide screenshots of ANY of this. Huh. That's weird. He provided screenshots of all these messages that HE sent, but he doesn't have screenshots of any of these disrespectful and insulting messages that Marty sent him.... Hmmm....
You know, maybe you should actually look at the 'evidence' that Mick provided rather than mindlessly parrot popular talking points. Try that out.
Love the iron maiden song playing in the background!!
Ive played Eternal and more recently 2016 on PC, and despite having all the quality settings on low, both games run fast and look beautiful. Excited for the dark ages 😈
The new Doom looks similar to the type of visual upgrade players got going from MK11>>MK1. Going from really great to really really really great.
Thank you, Michael!
My pleasure and thanks for watching and commenting.
I didn't like all the primary colours in eternal, so im glad they're going back to the grim medieval aesthetic, it's almost like this was gonna be a new quake but knew the 'doom' name probably has more selling grunt. Hopefully there's multiplayer too.
Id is,was and always will be a technical powerhouse.
I do like that IDTech never stopped innovating though in more subtle ways
A thumbs up for the Iron Maiden track 🤟🏻 NICELY DONE 👍🏻
Finally the games franchise to raise my testosterone is back
i think in that interview with Hugo Martin he was trying to say that there wont be any glory kills without actually saying it. i think the idea he was trying to get at was, since there is a new melee system where you can kick and use the shield and use a mace without being locked into a long animation, you basically have infinite variety with how you finish off an enemy with a string of animations that you control depending on the input. He has stated in an interview with games radar that now more than ever, they are inspired by the original dooms and that the dark ages will be a sort of return to form where combat mazes will be how you weave through a hail of slow moving bullets rather than making a split second dash when an enemy throws a fast moving fireball at you. i highly recommend checking out the interview because it sheds more light on the direction they are taking the game. also they are pushing for much more enemies on screen than ever before!
"Much more enemies on screen than ever before". That's not impressive when the majority of the enemies on the screen are crowds of trash-tier 'fodder' enemies that basically just stand there, barely doing anything at all. Which is what I see in The Dark Ages trailer.
Sadly, we probably won't get a Series S version at 120 Fps
Don't give up your hope. The engine should scalable enough if they intend to launch the game on switch 2/ support stream deck etc.
Id software are wizards u might be surprised
Loved and still love Doom eternal, with ray tracing at ultra native res 144hz no DLss or any bulls*it like that.
Haven't played Doom before, played a demo of the 1st comeback for it-was too fast paced & didn't seem like it had a lot of depth to me...This looks great, hope it has some depth to it could get me into the series.
🙌🙌🙌
Id Tech back again to show their technical prowess with their games. Knowing them this game will hit a stable 60fps and probably offer a 120fps mode
It's 'id Software'. Not 'id Tech'.
Sony just did their state or play last week
im a traditionalist I like to see oldschool looking demons in doom :) no hate to eternal but this gave them the perfect reason to just re design everything so yeah lookin good
Eternal specifically went back to the classic designs, green-haired marines and all...
We need a cod war zone season where we have master chief and Doom slayer in there.. Complete with a few of their trademark weapons and moves..
Hope this puts Quake in the same universe as DOOM!
You get all of that from a trailer from a game that’s not fully done yet?
Great! I cant wait to see how they push idTech in this new entry
I read “bigger” as something else…
Hey NX, what does 'scale on one axis' vs 'scale on both axis' mean here ? When you were talking about DRS.
They scale the horizontal before the vertical first. So rather than going from 3840x2160 > 2560x1440 they can drop to 2880x2160 for a smaller visual hit but maintains the target frametime.
@@NXGamer Oh I see, never knew that was a thing. Thanks !
hyped for the game just unsure how i feel on the new super shotgun
What's the game at the beginning of the video with the giant spider? That looks pretty sick.
BM: Wukong
Black Myth Wukong
Black Myth: Wukong
NXG I'm curious, which engine would you rate higher? Insomniacs or Idtech? Both are insanely impressive.
I really hope this can somehow facilitate a120fps mode on consoles. 60fps in both Doom 2016 and Eternal on both console platforms has pretty high input lag. otherwise.
All 3 current generation consoles have a 120fps (along with an RT mode). And this is my preferred mode to play on as it can offer around 52-60ms input latency, up with the likes of CoD and old CRT screens.
@@NXGamer Your commitment to highlighting the often overlooked topic of video game latency is something I am always grateful for.
I know id are still wizards, but a _current_ gen game targeting 120fps seems like a tall order. Doom Eternal at 120fps is fantastic for a console experience.
@@purebaldness Its all bout priorities. If they were targeting 120fps for a mode then they'll do it. We still have some 120fpa games like F1 2024
Fair point. I would expect a much lower target resolution @ 120fps, as well as reduced visuals across the board when compared to Eternal's high res, high quality 120fps mode. Whatever it takes to get it done is all I can hope for@@crestofhonor2349
@@NXGamer Couldn't agree more, Michael. I currently rock a Sun gdm 5510 & Mitsubishi Diamondtron 2070 for all my HD consoles and as you say the latency is near flawless. And with the amount of sub 4K at 60fps games this gen the CRTs are still delivering exceptional unmatched results.
This games mechanics looks like it could lend itself well to a procedurally generated rouge like mode no?
I like the medieval setting, but the size of the armaments bothers me. They take up too much screen real estate. Felt the same about the previous 2 dooms as well. Great games, but I’d give anything to be able to reduce the gun sizes by maybe 15%.
Why make the guns look smaller than they are?
Sadly can't play first person games anymore. They make me sick. Looks like a great game
This game NEEDS to take Next Gen Hardware to the very limits. I want to see my PS5 GLOW IN THE DARK LIKE MOLTEN ROCK during each play 😂😂😂
DooM....
...GuY
the devs said they stopped using virtual textures
Mega textures, not virtual textures.
@@NXGamer virtual texturing, mega textures, tomato tomaito same thing, just a different name, im trying to find the dev interview though im not quite sure
@@NXGamer id tech 7 since doom eternal stopped using virtual texturing
@@NXGamer Improvements in comparison to id Tech 6
1 million fewer lines of code, due in part to the removal of the OpenGL render-engine[7]
Unified HDR lighting and shadowing[7]
Full HDR-support on PS4, PS4 Pro, PS5, Xbox One S, Xbox One X, Xbox Series S, Xbox Series X, PC and Stadia[8][9]
Multi PBR material compositing, blending, and painting[7]
Increased texture fidelity and geometric detail due to removal of MegaTexture pipeline, used since id Tech 4
@@machinefannatic99 Yes, every modern engine uses virtual textures, be they PRT, AVT or plain Virtual textures. From Unity, Unreal Engine 4, Dunia, Decima and on they all use them because they have too. Megatextures were an earlier version from rage IDtech 5 but it was trying to do too much for multiplatform and it causes many issues. One was the slow mip chain would have poor textures for long periods of time.
Michael what's gonna happen with IGN tech review now?😢
I'm so glad they returned to the slower-paced gameplay of Doom 2016. Eternal was a horrible experience for me, it was just too much low ammo and low health for my taste. This one looks really sick, looking forward to it.
Did you try lowering the difficulty? The loop in Eternal is fantastic but it requires a little dedication to figure it out. It certainly comes at the cost of the _immediate_ playability of previous games. I can't get enough of it, but it's easy to see how others couldn't gel with it. I hope The Dark Ages wins players like yourself over, again.
to me that's what made it fun.....but to each their own i guess
But visual fidelity wise, why this game doesn't looks significantly better than doom eternal, being a NextGen only game ,built from the ground up?
I assumed that this is still idTech 7, despite being a new game. I feel like it's more about the scale than anything else. Huge numbers of enemies in huge environments, stable framerates, whilst maintaining visual polish.
It'd be pretty tragic if they went for the other route, pushing the best possible visuals at 30fps.
@@purebaldness it's Id tech, perhaps I should had lowered my expectation a bit
Lol because the engine is far better than any other last gen visuals already, he's also comparing pcs best to likely a current gen console.
@purebaldness this will never happen doom is fast paced and the team always pushes the framerates.
The company is called "id Software". Not "IDTech".
The PS4 could easily run it in 1080P. This is bullshit.