Differences Between Muay Thai & Kickboxing + How To Be Great At Both
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- Many athletes of kickboxing or muay thai cross compete between the 2 sports. They are able to do this because the 2 fight sports are very similar in many ways. BUT to be successful at the highest level in both I believe it's very important to have 4 specific elements perfected.
In this episode I take you through these points and explain why they are so important if you want to be a muay thai world champion but also a kickboxing world champion.
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:55 Differences
3:53 My Experience
6:58 Boxing
8:01 Clinch
9:05 Hand Defense
10:02 Throws & Sweeps
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I am so lucky to gain this much knowledge from a 6x world champion for free.
Correction, we are blessed to have champion share his knowledge!
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I did both for few years in amateur tournaments 3 wins and 6 proudly losses.... my feedback for you people is. In thai the fight can end with just one kick at you, even if you know where is coming from or block it..., in kick boxing you need to be ready for speed combinations coming at you from 10 different angles...
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Hello sir , Just wanted to say I appreciate all of the knowledge and insight your sharing with us ! I’m a amateur kickboxer/ Muay Thai athlete and instructor out of San Diego ,California and you have been a massive influence on my mentality and approach to completion , and professionalism in fight sports . Much love from the lower states! , X.B. 👊🏿🤠
San Diego kickboxer/Muay Thai athlete here too!
I’ve been practicing Muay Thai for five months now. I am loving all your videos.
Gabriel is my hero. Always on point, no bs.
I lost my first IKF amateur fight. Modified Muay Thai rules. I got kicked in the balls twice. Didn't matter cause I sucked pretty bad. I'll be back though. Time to go harder.
I do Muay Thai, but kickboxing is an amazing martial art too! You help me out so, so much in Muay Thai with your videos, and I bet you help every Muay Thai fighter and kickboxer become better. Thank you so much for your videos.
I hope we'll see some material about clinching and sweep techniques. I bet this is going to be a great one!!
Can't wait❤
Clinch, knees n elbow are biggest differences..
real
@@thegunslingerhd facts
Thanks for all these great video's champ
Your channel is the best! Thank u
Love all the knowledge you're dropping helps me out a lot with training and never fails to give me new ideas to work on Keep it up man
I love these videos haha….definitely feels like and edge up during my workouts
thanks as always champ
Very good point at 16:26, I really needed to hear that!
You are a generous knowledge giver ❤
Another sick video you the man Gabriel! Many of us here are doing cross disciplines of kickboxing muay thai...
Think you could do a video detailing Buakaws kickboxing experience vs his muay thai? His style change, results, etc
This video was great....although it was expected you'd suggest that thai fighters improve hands , I'm glad you ALSO suggested that kickboxers improve clinch.... 100 percent agree that both weapons must be refined... I love mixing both in muay thai
Muay thai is better at the clinch
We need that sweeps , and kicks video !
Who here competes in both sports and finds the transition between rules no big deal?
Or do you take the whole fight camp to real focus on the rules of your next fight?
I am a good kick boxer and for the last year I have been training and fighting Muay Thai. It was very easy for me because I would out box them and my kicking was good too. All I needed to do was be good at checking kicks and learn little bit of clinch.
After my transition from KB to MT I did a few KB fights. I fu**ed up 😁
Completely different game. Nobody can do both on middle or even high level.
Kickboxing doesn't have leg kicks?
Gabriel we are so lucky to have you but I have one question I'm 19 and just gonna start boxing and where I'm from sports aren't any relevant so I'm watching your channel to gain so much !!!
Thanks alot do you have any advice
If you do, that would be totally appreciated
Thank you Gabriel, love watching your video's! there is an extra 4 min on the video at the end. Or did i miss a bonus Sweep?
I love how you said it. You're a legit fighter and you don't teach elbows..unlike shane of fightips teaching moves he himself can't understand.
FINALLY A THOROUGH EXPLANATION
Great video
Varga gold
Could you do a video going over combinations and tactics for southpaws? There’s a laundry list of “how to counter southpaws”, but not a lot of in depth videos on tactics and combinations vs orthodox or even other southpaws.
Some nak muay have beautiful handfighting I find, especially with 4 oz gloves or in card chuek. Even more impressive with the elbow threat.
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I notice since In glory you can’t sweep anymore, I see a lot of guys use a “catch and release” style where they’ll catch the kick and then fire a left hook, or they’ll “block and pass” the leg across then throw a low kick
I wonder if you could do a similar style video with Karate, I know you started off as a Karateka, and become successful so I think ur opinion would be very interesting
Love your videos!! You’re one of the youtubers I watch that help me with my own training + give really good insight.
Also, would you ever consider competing for the UFC?
He fought twice for Bellator in MMA though
@@MrArgoth933 no absolutely! I don’t believe he has anything left to prove, I just think it’d be badass to add a UFC title to his collection and introduce more people to his awesomeness
@@liamwright347 I do have nothing but respect for Gabriel Varga... BUT being one of the best kickboxers in the world does not mean you can ease to MMA and challenge top 10 UFC fighters just like that
MMA is a very different discipline and even the striking part requires adjustments when you are coming from a striking sport, not mentioning all the knowledge regarding the grappling/BJJ part
Plus, I believe he said that he actually did not like fighting in MMA that much and "prefer to stay in kickboxing". Or something like that
@@MrArgoth933 Oh, well if that’s the case you actually answered my question so that’s appreciated lol. I’m actually a big UFC fan and I wasn’t aware if* Gabe had any experience on the mats, hence the question.
@@MrArgoth933 honestly though if anyone proves you can transition from being a world class kick boxer to an elite mma fighter it’s the style bender himself
Thank you
Video Idea super on breakdown
thank you
Thoughts on One Championship 4oz. Gloves Muay Thai?
Why is clinch fighting considered a weakness in kickboxing? We train for the clinch as well. Just because one kickboxer used a heel sweep and tossed against another? It really depends on individual kickboxers and whether they are better at punching, kicking, or clinching fighting. But we do train for clinching, knees, sweeps, and low kicks. At least at most kickboxing gym I trained in from the 90s-early 2000s.. but is true that many kickboxing rules down allow kick catches, unless you also compete in shootboxing or sanshou competitions. Then the Kickboxers cross train in shootboxing and sanshou. And some cross train in Muay Thai as well. I have cross trained in each of those styles myself. When I became an instructor, myself and other coaches, train students for different rule sets, including MMA.
❤❤🇹🇭ความคิดเห็นที่ยอดเยี่ยมคุณคิดยังไงกับแชมป์สนามมวยไทยลุมพินี ราชดำเนิน?
ผมมาจากประเทศไทยผมเห็นด้วยคนไทยไม่เก่งด้านการชกมากนักแม้แต่ระดับแชมป์ลุมพินีราชดำเนินคนพวกนี้จะเก่งด้านการเตะที่ทรงพลัง ในปี2002-2003K1 แชมป์มวยไทยของเราโดนน็อคใน K1ด้วยหมัด พวกเขาปรับตัวกับคิกบ็อคซิ่งได้ไม่ดี และมาซาโตะเคยบอกว่าเค้าเคยน็อคแชมป์ลุมพินีด้วยหมัด เพราะนักสู้ชาวไทยจะวางการ์ดต่ำป้องการการชกไม่ดีนัก เป็นเรื่องปกติที่นักมวยไทยจากประเทศไทยจะโดนชกหน้าหลายๆครั้งอย่างที่คุณเห็น ผมนึกถึงยุคทองที่มีแสนชัย สามกอ น้ำสักน้อยตอนนั้นสนุกมากการให้คะแนนให้ตามเทคนิคและมันเป็นศิลปะกว่าปัจจุบันยุคนั้นบัวขาวยังไม่มีใครรู้จักเลย เพราะเขาไม่เคยครองสนาม แต่ยุคปัจจุบันการให้คะแนนการเตะมีคะแนนมากกว่าการชก ใน K1หมัดจะมีคะแนนมากกว่าการเตะ เหมือนไฟต์ที่ซูเผอร์เล็กชนะรถถัง เพราะจำนวนการเตะของเค้าเยอะกว่ารถถังมาก
Oh m'en thanks you
What about muy Thai, kickboxing, BJJ and Filipino escrima and Kali knife fighting
Clinch and throws change everything
Hello,
I'm French training in Japan at Ihara dojo with the twin brothers Ebata - it is Japanese kickboxing. What do you think about it ? Isn't it very close to Muay Thai but with some differences ? Can you make a capsule on this subject one day, please ?
Thank you for your wonderful work !
Kick boxing... originated from muay thai
@@trongjaidarbavasu4132 No it didn't
It is. Kyukushin Karate master lose to a Nak Muay and in order to regain his lost honor, he go to Thailand to learn about Muay Thai and mix it with Karate and the Kickboxing was born. Well, "learn" is pretty much a polite term but I don't want to talk about it. The background history is quite controversial amd bloody.
@@jansettler4828 lol you sound dumb
@@kabukicho3009 Because I'm stating a fact?
I would like to see pro boxing muay thai and kickboxers fight.
Lawrence Kenshin disagrees about the Muay Thai conditioning being less than Kickboxing.
That's because he's biased to Muay Thai.
Yes what does you said it was true muaythai boxer's they are not kind using punch between kick, for kickboxing more puncher that was the good for defeat the muaythai fighter
Is Savate good to learn for K-1 or Glory tournaments?
Here is a secret savate is good for savate tournaments
@@laithalmasri6985 But can it stand up against Muay Thai or Dutch-style kickboxing?
@@warrennicholsony.fernando4513 it limited in techniques but they full contact fighting so yeah I guess
@@warrennicholsony.fernando4513I saw a savate guy beat a muay thai guy under K1 rules
It's hard for kickboxing boxer to switch to Muay Thai discipline, but it isnt that hard for muaythai boxer to switch to kickboxing discipline if you train about how to do a serie punch while doing a footwork like kickboxing. Otherwise we might have seen Petrosyan or even you are a muaythai champion. Muaythai is a martial art that need to be started practising since a childhood. If Petrosyan fight in Muaythai match with Petch Morakod. He will be koed by Petch Morakod for sure.
FYI.... The technique that Superbon use isnt a simple right high kick but it's a technique that muaythai boxer use when he wanna kick at his viral's neck as well as the viral is close to him, not a normal high kick but a standing leg is also up from a floor at the same time.
Muay Thai fighters are the ultimate combat athletes.
@bo xer Respect to Gabriel but even he'd admit Buakaw would beat him.
MMA has entered the chat.
Agree that MuayThai or Thai fighters are dangerous compared to other martial arts.
You obviously never heard of Lethwei! You won't see even Buakaw fighting in it.
It seems muay thai translates very well to kick boxing but not vice versa
Why not?
@@Drod7 because muay thai already does everything that kickboxing does, but the reverse isn't true
i think its a good thing stop drawn out clinches, its dull, but certainly a sweep is in order.
about the elbows: would elbow pads stop the slicing ? i would approve of elbows if the face stayed without scars in kickboxing, its no different than gloves
With elbow pads 🤣 shut up mate
Difference? Easy... MT is more beautiful 😁
except...the damn clinches that just keep getting longer
I think Muay Thai not having good hands is a major disadvantage. Punches are really the only mid-range strikes someone can have. Pair this with the lack of foot mobility in Muay Thai and what you have is a style that'll have a rough road in a kickboxing match.
I believe that's why most Muay Thai are modified to have boxing in it now, even though it isn't great because of the narrow stance and lack of footwork. I personally think trad Muay Thai is a very overrated style because the ability to change positions in a fight quickly is so important.
Anyways that's my two cents. If you disagree, let me know.
The modern version of muay thai have this problem "thanks" to gambling, they only wanna see clinch and nothing more; if you go and watch the golden era muay thai you will see a lot of good boxers (even world champions on that) change angles and good movement. Its more a modern problem.
@@nestorarcilaosorio2457 I'm not denying that Muay Thai fighters can't transition to boxing. It's just that traditional Muay Thai does not teach good boxing habits at all. At it's core, trad MT is a kicking and clinching art.
vinkelitz hes not talking about muay thai fighter transitioning to boxing. hes talking about muay thai goats like samart payakaroon who had great boxing throughout his whole MT career.
@@TripleEightss What I meant to say was, Muay Thai fighters are capable of incorporating boxing techniques into their style. It's just that the traditional Muay Thai style never taught people to box at all; it doesn't have mobile footwork or good hands.
The existence of guys like Samart and Somrak, proves my point that boxing is a style superior to trad MT, since they incorporated boxing in MT fights and had massive success.
@@vinkelitz Rough road in Kickboxing? It's always the other way around. Petchpanmorung, Sittichai, Superbon, Buakaw are prime examples. Now there aren't many "Kickboxers" out there dominating the Muay Thai circuit.
I agree with the hands though and the main reason why Thai fighters don't excel in boxing is because punches are scored very low compared to kicks. If you're going tp use punches in a Thai fight you better knock the opponent out.
Why is kickboxing and mui thi not all that popular compared to MMA or even boxing? I'd say it's just the promotions kick boxing should beat boxing evrey time
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38 Too late to go pro
Doesn't matter how good boxer you are, very very hard to fight Thai fighter, all those weapons just can easily destroy your boxing skills
Not entirely true Ramon dekkers had good boxing and he was battering Thais.
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Too much of you talking and not enough video. I'd rather watch example while you talk versus just watching you talk.
Gabriel, love your videos, but another commenter made a good point..."only one dislke". Well, I see zero dislikes now. I really hope you aren't censoring people, man, because that is a lowly, despicable practice.