Sanda vs Muay Thai: Han Lei vs Samkor Part 1
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- Опубліковано 15 кві 2006
- China vs Thailand
Bangkok, Thailand 08.08.03
60kgs
Unified Rules - Punching, kicking, knees, elbows & throws. Elbow pads worn. Clinch time is shorter than standard Muay Thai match.
Again I don't know much about Han Lei. He must at least have been a weight champion in sanda.
Samkor is a top Thai fighter who fights mostly overseas these days. He's known for his left roundhouse kick!
This is Round 1, 2 & 3. - Спорт
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Agree there is no cowardice in playing to your strengths. BUT anyone without bias can see that, even with all the takedowns and throws Samkor 1) heavily outscored Han Lei and 2) inflicted all the damage and took almost none. Everytime Han grabbed that leg, he first had to take Samkor's brutal middlekick. And then there were the unanswered knees, elbows and middlekicks... rounds 4 and 5 were actually the ones where Han took the worst beating.
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the fundamental fact is that while Han Lei's counter to the leg is effective, he could only catch so many kicks. And even when he was successful, his counters did not hurt Samkor in the ring (on concrete would be a different story), while Samkor's kicks that Han Lei did not catch probably hurt - a lot.
+funkyboodah actually not true.. the kicks did not hurt the china guy.. its a basic sanda catch where one hand is used to guard your ribs or head and the other hand scoops over the kick and then does a twisting motion to bring the guy down
CombatFitness but a lot chinese fighters have knocked out by Superbon with kicks.
Khmer Martial Arts sorry what is superbon? maybe alot of guys have been knocked out, but apparently not this sanda guy..
CombatFitness a left kick from samkor hurts anyone you fool
anyone know about Samkor updates? I love this man kick.
Work in hong kong
Nice video
samkor has great kicks like all thai fighters, The chinese guy did a good ass job though. I was hoping the chinese would win but hey, thai has the strongest kicks. Chinese fighters are new to sport fighting, they are doing good. In time, we'll see more chinese fighters.
I've seen the whole fight, at the end the kickbag won.
Han Lei really has the heart ! .. i admire ! ... tks for uploading this match!
Samkor just won a match in Europe (Superleague) just last month iirc.
the sanda guy did amazingly good job of defending Samkor for the first 2 rounds. still, samkor should have awarded the win though.
@HaseoFseiei that's true, if clinch and elbows were allowed he would have been ko right from the start
No Clinch, No Elbow... yet they allow Sanda Takedown... Stupid rules to protect Chinese fighters...
Yes he can clinch, about the elbows... Well
Chinesse guy isnt using grapling, far for me
@@carlosandres1835 Sanda doesn't include grappling
Biased opinion from Thailand
samkor got no other arsenal beside that kick
Still beat the Sanda guy and should have won.
@@henryposadas3309 no, he lost, this is unified Sanda-MT rules, not MT, throws score and Samkor got dumped repeatedly.
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that's sum powerfull low kicks!
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Ouch tht pounding left kicks of samkor, must hv hurt a lot
Sanda fighter caught kicking after hit hit
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Its VERY easy to take him down with a double or single leg tak down but to lift him up and suplex him is almost impossible like what you see in sanda
(suple/bodyslam) ,unless your overeem or brock lesnar that have a monster body then you could life him high up and throw him like the sanda takedown. So thats that
The classic.
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What's sanda ???
Yea i know but the reason im saying that is because im trying to explain one guy that previously comented that elbows are more useless than a overhead suplex so thats why i say to him its impossible to do that move ,suplex in a real fight esp if the person is bigger than you, but if hes the same size then yes you can do it. But the single/double leg TD ,90-10% of the time it works, even someone 10x ur size, like in 1 vid of a japanese guy vs yasborough ,he won wif a single leg TD,MMA 2 uses it
sanda seems week on tv cuz they are not trying to kill the other guy the point is to win the match. If it was a street fight then its all up to the person's own skills sanda really means like free style fighting but it became a sport so its different
Agree. Im Chinese. This Sanda match in China is tailored for the Chinese people to watch. To be fair, they should prohibit take down to score points. How can you prohibit a Muay Thai fighter not to use elbow.
unfair match...Samkor should've won.
It's like when B.Pramuk fight the japanese for the first time,lol
Agree.
Notice the throw was smooth. It is not easy to keep a calm mind while getting kicked constantly. Both styles of fighting has a different philosophy. in Muay Thai you have to be hard and tough, they train from a young age and have excellent striking coordination. Sanshou relies on using the whole, different strikes and positioning.
Sanshou's aim is to be silent and calm. Suddenly attacking during winning or losing positions. Muay Thai requires good stamina and state. You got to respect all.
you must have thought i'm important for my people...
anyway, what race are you ?
im support the muay thai, but sanda guy is tough.samkor lose footwork and balance and in real combat situation, thats mean dead
sanda guy should win
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also the point is the person that won should be decided based on who got hurt more by the end of the match, not by what COULD have happened. (Unless of course your talking about submission fighting)
Han lei is legitimately very good at catching kicks. Whatever move it's called I want to learn it.
@bboycrowm1 Coz u keep emphasizing on takedowns so i explain the application of takedowns in a real fight. Like i said previously , what if the guy is waay heavier than the sanda guy? how would he be able to carry him up rite? he wont be coz hes too heavy. After all sanda fighters mostly wins by takedown in other words points. Also in a real fight theres no rules , 4 -5 pl can just jump on you , while MT would fair better againt 4 guys etc, sanda guys will go for throws ,
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the point is, does he know what to do afterward? Does he train in ground fighting? Does he practice armbars and chokes ?
The best he can do is attack him while hes on the ground, and even then you need sufficient training on both sides
a hard dump on concrete followed by stomps with shoes on will end a fight without the need for ground games. The whole point of sanda is to remain standing after dumping them on the ground.
Most of the Sanda takedowns are double or single legs from catching kicks, like in this video. Also, inside trips and a number of other takedowns can also be easily done on people of any size.
Sanda player leg got destroyed 😂😂
9:05 - Just being fair.
In my opinion Han Lei is a very strong Sanda fighters, I don't think many people noticed but rather than using the turning kick, Han Lei was using the side kick constantly and some of the kicks did connect hard when the Samkor charged inwards towards Han Lei.- 0:44
Knees was also allowed in the match.- 0:22
Kicks was also allowed to the head.- 1:51
However do not mistake me, I practice both arts and I think that both fighters are great in their sport. Peace.
you do know clinches and in some cases (mainly mainland) elbows and knees are allowed in sanda matches
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I realised I can win Samkor because it seems like whoever is the sandbag wins.
that´s true, i think is a better fight between a lei thai fighter and a muay thai fighter.
I give the chinese some props since I can't believe he's still standing after taking all those brutal kicks. Although he caught the kick for throwdowns, it was always after taking a brutal kick. Samkor won this based on who inflicted the most damage. the judges must be chinese. also, the ones who contend Lei won this are mostly chinese or those into kung fu.
The rules here is unified rule based on point scoring, not on damage. There is no bias here, Han LEi won through the sheer amount of takedowns
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ช่วงจังหวะพร้อมเตะก็กลัวๆกล้าๆ
Love the chinese audience genuinly cheering on their own guy and the challenger
wrzgf , this fight is in Bangkok and it is mainly a Thai audience cheering , Chinese audience will only cheer for Chinese fighter .
I think Sanshou fighters are fight by finding empty spaces and hitting from different positions and different attacks. Muay Thai however focuses on power and conditioning.
0:55 The Samkor was making Han Lei eat kicks, Han Lei did eat kicks but maintained a calm mind which is the key to Sanda, not power but flow. 2Throw during punishment is hard.
Muay Thai and Sanda are both two very different approaches to Martial Arts, they have both unique qualities so please so not think either is better.
While generating power from a technique is fundamental, muay thai focus is in many other things. Defense, for example, is a main thing that many teachers teach.
Wow Samkor just spams that left kick over and over...I guess if it works and the opponent isn't defending it, keep doing it. Wonder why the Chinese guy wouldn't check the kick or counter it.
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เตะให้ชีโครงหักไปเลย อยากเหนือเขาแต่วิชาต่อสู้ ศิลปของตัวเองไม่มี
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the rules always protecting fighters from Sanda, as well as other martial arts, no elbow clinch etc.
Well Samkor would be very disappointed if the rules allows sanda wrestling. So they are on equal footing here.
ทุ่มแล้วจะเจ็บมั้นเนี้ย มวยไทยออกอาวุธมาโดนทุกดอก
I dont think that there stupid rules, just different. Obviously, normall Muai Thai would be more devastating in Standup, although sanda fighters are taught to fight under the same terms. Difference is the level of the fighter fighting, if one is obviously better, then the outcome, whatever the circusmtances, is unlikely to change.
It is very easy to carry a bigger man, nevermind take him down. Watch any grappler vs striker fights and you will see.
Those throws form the sanda guy on concrete would be an instant KO.
You are obviously dont know about thai dumps and sweeps
@@monkeyslayer6952 but Han LEi wasnt the one getting dumped here
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again Elbow pads ,sanda style is catch leg throw and only weapon against this is elbow
True abit, but also i notice they love(sanda guys) to do the overhead suplex throw which requires alot of energy and in long run its not good coz it drins stamina fast. So yea if they stick to the leg catches and sngle leg takedowns then its good coz form the leg catch they could just kcik the persons other leg and he will fall down naturally even if hes big. But to do the overhead throw, over your body,thats virtually impossible to do against a bigger perosn that you esp a very fat guy. thx man
@bboycrowm1 fast, you wount be able to carry someone heavier than you. Thats why sanda has weight categories etc so that ppl of the same size are able to carry their opponent. While MT n the other hands doesnt need any weight category, coz their rules are basically non-existing, they can elbow the face kick the head ,etc except groin kicks, other than that its the real deal ,you can hit anywhere literally. wathc this and u know why watch?v=-yPfukurJdw. Theres also 1 vid where a MT
really? about how many videos have you been to claiming unified rules were unfair and thais cannot use elbows and knees when infact they could.
It seems you have yet to know about the real mma world rather than just Muay Thai in the UFC. FYI UFC isn't the only mma competition in the U.S. let alone the entire world.
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rathren was trying to say was, according to his text book enactment of style vs style, where the fighters are robots devoid of thought. The san shou bot would be in trouble if he tried to slam a bjj bot, even though i believe san shou is more well versed in strikes than bjj, these are robots he's talking about...they will not try to utilize strenghes and etc. =) hahaha. And a
explain to me how are these unified rules unfair because if I remembered I already explained to you and I don't care if sanda is unpopular all it needs is someone to go in the ufc then we'll see what happends but what I'm glad is sanda fighters have beaten muay thai and unified rules are fair enough otherwise muay thais would ALWAYS loose believe me muay thai fighters are able to beat sanda fighters with these rules.
There is also opportunity for Samkor to do damage at the ground, the one on top is not always the one thats going to win.
Also I see obvious little clinch time which could have been over for for Han Lei
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Sanda guy good at the dump. Samkor have no answer for that..
then he is not using elbows not that he wasn't allowed to ever think about that?
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Where is Bruce lee now?
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报道员根本不认识Samkor，听他们的对话真的很好笑🤣
ต่อไปต้องบอกเขาว่าต้องมีกติกามวยไทยครบเครื่องถึงจะชกต้องเล่นตัวบ้างสิครับอย่าไปตามเขามากเขาจะได้ใจรู้มั้ย
Hai if the floor was concrete and you get spear tackled down with an elbow onto your rib cage, how much conditioning would you have to do to that one area to stop being injured? But I might as well use my whole energy and the density of the ground to create the same injury elsewhere? But then again you may start to train harder for these... See? No win no use, just the athletes in their field and if they get to open up to all then its an even better story! Real Martial Artists never die nor lose
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lol, no one does suplexes as a form of self defence. EVERY grappler will use a double or single leg and it will work all the time. One takedown is all a grappler needs to end a fight.
western boxing robot would of course not have legs...it would have jet packs or rocket boosters growing out of its hips so it would have no legs for the san shou bot to attempt a shoot on. :)
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it seems that his technic is kick only. the other guy knows how to grab points.
Poor Sanda. Side kicks won't work for Muay Thai guys.
Han lei not bouncing around on his toes like a boxer but using universal stance from northern shalolin kungfu. It's good but he should circle and move more like Han feilong.Respect for Samkor's kicking power too.
the sanda guy did really good actually...
Yeah I agreed, he can still walk.
Samkor is the winner 🏆
wow you are still getting mad eventhough thais are able to win with unified rules :rollseyes: yep they're unfair alright and I believe you.
Karl James Noons LW champion of Elite Xtreme Combat know sanshou.
Patrick Barry fought in the USASKF Art of War II Sanshou Professional Fights in Atlanta, GA. He won both a US National Sanshou Team Spot and a World Title by knocking out Paul Gurevidius.
Lets not forget Cung Le who broke frank shamrocks arm.
you need to open your eyes more.
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The wushu guy is like.. Pls stop hitting me, im tired of holding you legs...😂
At the end of the day it all comes down to the fighter doen't it?
If one fighter is better than the other he'll win regardless of the style he practices..
I dont believe any one style is better than the other, its not as if you train in muay thai you'll beat all fighters other than muay thai fighters; each style has its strengths and weaknesses.
If you want to be a good fighter find the style that works for YOU.
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then that means its exactly the way they SCORE thats the problem
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