Dodge Challenger Scat Pack Manual. Not What I Thought.
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2022
- Test driving the 2018 Challenger Scat Pack with a manual transmission. Full accelerations and thoughts compared to a Camaro SS.
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I'll be reviewing more cars as this channel grows. Anything I can get my hands on, don't freak out. apologies for the right hand drive view lmfao I didn't even realize during editing my fault haha Likes and Subs are always appreciated!
would be like so cool to see you review the Charger Scat!
Keep going man, you are doing great! Scats are badass!
I’ll be there in 2 mins does a 15 min review 🤣🤣
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@@Hot-1LE I was wondering what year was this car? Before I bought my 2010 2ss manual camaro I test drove a 392 manual a 2017 and was comparing it to the 2010 camaro at the time cuz was thinking of trading the camaro in for the challenger I was disappointed in the 392 comparing it to the 5th gen I thought the shifter was a lot longer and sloppier then the camaro even my wife didn’t like the challenger they are sexy looking car but good thing I didn’t go for one before I bought the 2ss
This was 2 years ago
This was an 18. It only had 10k miles on it. Which was kinda crazy tbh but they wanted close to 50k for it 🤣 idk if it had a clutch upgrade but I assume it was stock for the mileage
Shifter felt tight and heavy. Throws werent too long but they could be a little shorter for sure
@@Hot-1LE ahh the one I tested was around 58k Canadian it had lower kms too around 27 or so at the time, it felt too comfy compared to the 5th gen camaro the camaro feels more raw could be cuz it doesn’t have all the electronics
I was going to comment the same thing…..
The guy from Car max was all nervous and called him…..
He said I’ll be back in 2 minutes…..
I just bought a Scat Pack, So I am watching all of these videos
For around town stoplight to stoplight, the 392 Challengers are the most fun of the 3 brands. I actually cross-shopped a mustang gt pp2, a 2ss 1le, and my 392 T/A. I went with the dodge for a few reasons... the space, it's roomy and comfortable, and the 392 sounds amazing, it feels faster.... weird I know since its the slowest of the 3, I guess the low-end torque just makes it fun. It also has an experience to it that only driving it can describe.
Yes, the low end torque is incredible!
I totally agree. Maybe Mustangs and Camaros are a tick faster, but my Scat Pack is a ton of fun, and plenty fast. Plus more roomy for my big frame than the other two😋
Cool video. I have a 2019 Challenger 392 T/A and a friend of mine had a 2020 Camaro SS 1LE. We met up one day to compare the cars, eat a little lunch, and have fun. I took him for a ride in my car and let him drive it. He did the same with his. Both cars had their strengths and weaknesses. I felt like his car was faster and he thought mine was faster. The Tremec TR-6060 in the SS seemed to shift smoother than the one in my Challenger. The 1LE package is definitely worth the money because the Camaro outhandled my car. Neither of us could decide which car sounded better. I'd have to say the Camaro is a little more fun to drive and the Challenger is much more comfortable. I wish I could own both, but the Challenger is more usable with the larger rear seat area and trunk. The Camaro is cool looking, but I just love the retro looks of the Challenger.
This is awesome feedback man! It's funny how you both compared the cars. It's like they are so close yet so far haha. Likewise wish I could have both. I really enjoyed this challenger. The 1le would make me go "holy sht" the challenger had me laughing like a little girl. The only fault here is I don't have enough money for both lol. I appreciate you sharing that experience man 💪
I traded my 2018 SS Camaro for a 50th Anniversary Scat Pack Challenger. Once I went to a staggered wheel set up with PS4'S, I haven't given that Camaro a second thought.
Tires would make a huge difference. Car is absolutely enjoyable, appreciate your feedback man
Order a 2SS 1LE back in October 2021 still waiting. GM is treating customers bad. If the car doesn’t come this month thinking about canceling order and getting a Widebody hellcat. 🤷🏽♂️
Man that's a long wait. A lot of us are feeling that way right now. TBh either cars will be amazing. Not directly comparable they have different purpose but each equally fun to drive. do what you gotta do brother 💪
Damn men am sorry to hear you been waiting that long that is crazy
It is not necessarily GM's fault.. you may have also ordered at a low allocation dealer.. place multiple orders at multiple dealers and keep pressing them until you get confirmation your order was accepted and in queue at the production facility. The process is outlined on Camaro6 forum.
The Challenger makes an amazing daily. I’m curious how the widebody handles. The clutch was heavy and the shifter as well. They are tons of fun. They just don’t handle well out the box. I don’t see how people can hate on them. I would have kept mines longer if my personal safety wasn’t at risk in my area.
@@QueTheChaotic The Widebody has a different suspension set up and adaptive damping. Along with the square 305 tire set up, the car is very planted and actually handles very well.
The only pure Muscle car left. Unfortunately they are stolen at an alarming rate. If you get one have a GPS tracker and hidden fuel cut off or kill switch installed.
That is the 15 and 16 model years. That was updated and is no longer an issue.
Awesome video! You can tell you’re missing a RWD, manual, V8….. it’s awesome to see you branching out! You’ve got great neutral perspectives… keep it up bud!
Ah man I miss it sooo much haha. Appreciate the positive vibes brother!
I have a 2021 SS 1LE ,The one pet peeve I have about the camaro is the inside room, other than that it’s an amazing car. Dodge sure knows how to make a spacious fast car.
Agreed completely! Thank you for watching man
Dodge throws you back in ur seats lol...no delay in pedal response like in the camaro and mustangs, but stang and maro handle better on tracks..
I’m getting this exact car today! I’m so excited.
Congrats!! Its an absolute blast
Haha I love my '20 SP manual to death. I went from a 370Z to the Chally and it is by far the largest car I've ever owned. That said with the optional wide r forged wheels and tire pack I'm very impressed with the handling. As you mentioned it hides it weight very well for what it is. Still going back and forth between keeping it or getting a SS 1LE but trying to see if the new Camaros looks will grow on me as that front end just isn't doing it for me. Great job on the video
Dude, I’m a new sub because of your realism. I could watch your car reviews all day. Just don’t get desensitized like these other reviewers.
Bro I really appreciate that man! I can promise I’ll always keep it real. I appreciate the positive words 🙏
If you want a car that handles you get a Miata. If you want a beast with outrageous low end torque and old school looks you get a Scat Pack Challenger. I've raced and beaten three Scats in my Manual Mustang GT, but I had to come from behind to catch and pass them. The low end torque is quite a bit more than a Mustang's, but when the Mustang gets to 60-65 mph it will shine as that Coyote comes alive. Still, Challengers of any trim are beautiful rides!
Love those Scatties! Sad that they’re not making them after next year. 💜
It makes me want to get one. Sad they will be gone the electric versions just aren’t doing it lol
I love my RT Shaker/ manual… fun to drive!
Shaker is the only way to do it!
Best review of this car.
If you like this one with the narrow body, try the widebody scatpack with the 305 on all 4 corners in manual, it can actually handle corners pretty good.
Working on it!. My buddy just got a new one wide body with the shaker. But it's an auto. I'm really curious how it feels in the twists I know it's no Camaro but still curious.
@@Hot-1LE I agree! Would love to see you do a review on the Widebody manual scatpack 🙏🙏
My challenger wb 392 manual is so fun had it 3 years now and all bad ass car just a mid delete nice firm clutch
I agree with pretty much every point you made on this video, as someone who owns a 1LE and test drove a Scatpack as well, the Scatpack definitely feels like it's more fun, and the one I test drove was the Scatpack Widebody and that one even seemed to handle better than my 1LE did which surprised the crap out of me, if I could afford it I'd have a Scatpack Widebody with the manual gearbox as my daily, and the Camaro SS 1LE as my weekend car.
Appreciate your input bro! Wish I had got a widebody to try out but I was surprised these cars were so fun. Good room inside and great sound. Anyone calling them a boat hasn't driven it. With that said it really makes the 1le even one hell of a car. Both are great let's buy them all 😅
@@Hot-1LE I'm all for it, I want a Mach 1, a Scatpack Widebody, and a Porsche 911 GT3 Touring with the manual gearbox, along with a few other cars lol what about you?
Good taste sir. I want everything except those Prius. Literally everything but that. 😅😅
@@Hot-1LE LMAO!!!
Good review buddy
Appreicate it man!
Bro, your review sold me on one. Looking for a 2023 last call now lol 😂
Haha im glad! Its a great car. Sad to see them go
I still like the challenger scat packs and Hellcats. I just love the manual Camaros better than the challengers because they’re more easier to learn and handle than the mustangs and scat packs.
Ya man tbh I don't even think that are comparable cars if it wasn't for their history. I preferred the shorter gears and the clutch on the scat. No chatter no big flywheel dual disc bogging it down. But if you want a handling car this is certainly not it lol
the Challenger is super fun to drive, but one thing to consider with Dodges is that their key fobs have really poor security on them (even after the patch). Just something to consider when you're investing so much money into these types of higher profile cars.
Kill switch hidden is a must to be safer.
So funny enough they were telling me how people were stealing their cars during test drives and right off the lot. I drove by a cop sitting there and he gave me the most pissed off look. They do not protect and serve the Mopar community 🤣
@@Hot-1LE yeah, chargers and challengers have over five times the national average on whole-vehicle theft rn. When it's easy enough to do that anyone can do it, you not only have a high pool of thieves, but also people that'll target that type of car specifically as low-hanging fruit.
So glad you stuck with the camaro!
I detail at an audi dealership and one of the preowneds sold was a manual RT. Never drove one until then….instantly fell in love, and now im looking for a manual RT or a manual scat. Currently drive a ram 1500. Mopar all day baby.
Nice objective review. I have had multiple vehicles with the 5.7 Hemi but the 6.4 is definitely a different beast. My 2018 Scat Pack Challenger with the automatic was a little faster than my latest 2021 Challenger T/A 392 with a manual but it wasn't as fun and was quieter. The automatics have the MDS so the exhaust is tuned to muffle it more when switching to 4 cylinders. I wasn't fond of it. Nice to have all 8 cylinders all the time with a more open exhaust.
Thanks man! Thats interesting to know. Same with camaros. The v4 mode I cant do. The manuals where all the funs at haha
Here's my two cents, I had a 2018 ss1le, it got totalled,( wasn't my fault) car was great but had issues with the shudder trans,easy scratch paint, I got into a widebody hellcat and I had to have it, I felt like I was actually in a muscle car, the camaro and mustang gave me more of a sports car feel, and to top it off, the challenger was insanely comfortable inside.from 2010-15 camaros were muscle/pony cars, from 2016-2018 the camaro was a muscle/sports car, from 2019-22 the camaro 80% majority sports car, and 20% muscle 😑with the new look and transmission. Dodge kept it pure all american muscle from the start to finish, sold more, then chevy and ford's, and right now the resale value for the charger/challenger is higher. Dodge is for the drag strip and the streets🇺🇸💪🔥, u might lose control on a track tho🤣
This x10!! R/T has a little kick, but once you try those scat paks and hellcats its insane! the automatics are faster then manuals by a land slide though
I agree with everything but the resale value. At least for the online retailers and dealerships where I'm at. Used scatpacks are becoming dime a dozen. There are so many you actually have a leverage when shopping for one. I even had a dealer offer knock 7k off a used hellcat for me which I reluctantly passed on. The used ss 1le's are going well over msrp when you can even find them. Dealers know this and wont move at all. Now widebody hellcats, demons, jailbreaks are a different story, but that's ZL1, shelby class which are both holding their value equally well.
@@Chasethe1le it's the opposite where I'm located, the only things you'll see on the lot are v6 and rt's, since 2020 the resale value of the challenger passed ford and chevy, everything else sells pretty quick, the dealerships knows everyone wants those cars, rap videos,instagram,fast and furious movies, so they'll mark up the prices way above msrp. Especially anything widebody, camaros went up as well but unless it's a ZL1 it sits in the lots for a long time. U got really lucky if the dealership took $7k off of that hellcat 😳😳😳😳 in this current climate, that's un heard of😲!! I would of took it and sold it to car max🤣 they're giving alot for those cars, I already have 1 hellcat. But the dime a dozen thing, my dad says the same thing.
@@virusworld3730 Im in the phoenix area and the last time I was really looking (prior to ordering my 1LE) was Jan/Feb but I had been looking for a while prior to that. It was a 2015 but pretty spec'ed out and less then 27k miles. They had it listed slightly under bluebook already and knew that i was pretty set in my plan of ordering the SS but wanted to try it out first.
After the test drive they went back and came back with a price 7k under the listed price. For context we just bought a RDX Aspec less then a year ago from them and they were a relatively new dealership still so idk if that played into things. Ultimately we were on our way to a suns game anyway and I didnt want to rush into a decision but there was a part of me that was very very tempted to buy the hellcat, then order the SS and just enjoy it until that came in but when you factor in taxes, insurance and everything it still wouldn't have been cost effective so I didnt. Going the Carmax route might have got me a little bit though.
You are right on the SS's just sitting too, but since there's so few of them its more of a posturing move by the dealerships from what I've seen. Specifically with the 1LE's Dealers seemed absolutely fine leaving them on the lot and not taking a dime off of them because they knew they were going to get what they asked for. I test drove a 2019 1le back in december and kept an eye on it. They actually bumped the price UP by 2k before it was sold in January. The 2 others I that popped up near me in that timeframe that were over MSRP the dealers said there was no negotiation room at all but they were listed for about 2 months each. There were more scatpacks and mustang GT's I looked at or asked about there was some degree of wiggle room or a good deal would inevitably pop up on its own because there were so many. Same with the non 1LE 1SS's as well.
@@Chasethe1le 😍😍😍😍 send me this dealership info, or a link with the prices! I've got family there who've been dying to get deals like that.
Out of curiosity, how is the clutch in that scat pack? I owned a 2009 5.7 RT with a six speed manual and it was so nochy and really temperamental… putting it in reverse had the longest throw… Wondering if they’ve solve this on the newer scat packs?
It was notchy but the right amount for a muscle car like this. Pedal was firm but not overly heavy. I cant speak for reverse dont think I used it. Overall i loved it. Throws could have been a little shorter but it felt right for a car like this.
My brother had a scat pack charger until it was stolen lol. It was a nice car for being a big sedan. It handle good for what it was and had plenty of power to have fun! He does want a camaro for his next car eventually so he will have to ride in mine when it comes in. I have a 23’ SS 1LE at 3000 status with a tpw of 7/11 so we will see 🤞🏻
Man I hope you get your car this year lol. Playing but you get it. Chargers are big girls but everything you said was true. A riot of a car and at the end of the day that's what it's about having fun. Your Camaro will be like a fighter jet. Fingers crossed for you man
coming from an old dodge boy, camaro and mustang boys never like dodge ,even wayy back,,lol,I believe they were the reason I drove dodges,and I never regreted it,,Yes they are boats,,but fun to drive,,I pick up my 2014 100th anniversary,5.7 6spd man challenger in a few days ..Cant wait,,great vid.
So I have a 23 Last Call Widebody Scat Challenger. I also have a 2016 Mustang GT with a Gen 5 Whipple. I love them both and they both have their own vibe. The Challenger is a comfy cruiser with loads of torque on the low end. The Mustang is a screaming sports car with less comfort.
That’s really cool
The RIP at 6:10 sounds phenomenalllll. I bet it had a mid-muffler delete. Man I think you make a great point about the gearing and having fun around town.
Yeah that car just sounded right man. I appreciate your support and checking out the video. I wish I could own both tbh haha
It's stock exhaust
Congratulations on your first muscle car experience 💪. The Camaro is a great sports car and great on a track. But this is a big, beefy badass that will kick your teeth in and not feel bad about it. This is true, American Muscle.
I love mine . The manual is amazing. Long tubes headers can Dyno tune . Mmm. Mine will done this coming week
That thing will sound ammmaazzinnggg
Love my scat pack
Test drove the exact same thing 2 weeks ago.......black on black and a 6-speed. I was giggling the entire drive.
Firstly: how dare you!
Secondly: Never utter the words “scatty for daddy” again 😂
Thirdly: Great video! Definitely looking forward to more. I can only imagine how this would of been if this one was a widebody Challenger. 🤤
🤣🤣 that scatty thing stuck in your head didint it. It was totally cringe I had to say it 🤣
Not really what I'm looking for in a car, but I definitely respect the hell out of these. Really the Chargers/Challengers are the only true American muscle cars left, since both the Mustangs and Camaros have moved more towards the sports car category, and if that's what you're looking for, these Dodge offerings will definitely satisfy your needs. It's just too bad you can't order them new with manual transmissions any more, as it's my understanding the manuals have been on permanent constraint for a while now with Dodge not saying if or when they'll be available to order again.
Well said bro. I didint know that about the manuals on constraint that's a huge disappointment. There won't ever be a car like that again once they stop making it. It's sad because it's a blast, a great street car. One day we will all look back and wish we owned them all haha. Thanks for commenting and watching man.
You can still order the R/Ts and scats with a manual. They axed the manual in the hellcat only.
Yea I test drove one of these and felt the same, looking to get one next month
Good choice!!
Thinking of trading my scatpack for a camaro 2ss. Do you think that would be a good trade?
I'd say good trade. The SS is a bit more versatile with it's performance
Yessir
Thanks for such a great and objective review; I’ve had my scat challenger WB that I ordered ( 8 weeks to get it ) and received in November and the car just keeps getting better as it breaks in; I’ve grown to appreciate the Camaro’s and I’m giving it serious thought to buying a 2SS1LE; it’s a better value for the car that you get, because demand is so high on the Scats and Hellcats there’s a premium tacked on to all orders’ ( at least in my part of the country).
Camaros’ have earned my respect but I love my Challenger more and more each day. My brother rolls a Mustang GT Premium and it’s tuned so I struggle just to keep up and be neck and neck with his a$$.
On a side note; I got ambushed by a Lamborghini Aventador and a McLaren 720. The Lamb was next to me at the light and I kicked the sh*t out of him by running up right under his a$$ when I switched lanes that’s when I saw the McLaren and to my surprise he completely backed down; I don’t think these guys in their exotics are used to American muscle taking them on….it was great. I pulled up alongside the Lamb and he didn’t want any more and turned off while the McLaren was in the back and behaved himself. Score one for us fellas…….
Ain't no way you're outrunning a Lambo in a Scatpack unless they want you to, or that Lambo was from 1980, and don't even start on the McLaren 720.
Maybe if you had a hellcat you could at-least run with them, you probably was just reading into things taking it way to serious, them boys would eat you for dinner in your baby scat, they got nothing to prove.
They were toying with you at most.
These dudes ain't trying to catch a reckless charge over a baby scat driver thinking they can play w/ them big boys.
I think he was saying he did it with his Camaro. I ran lambos in my 1le and yes you can give them a solid run. They aren't all cracked up as people think.
@@ViolentMLG I had nothing to lose and that’s why I decided to have some fun; they were thoroughly surprised and more than likely didn’t want to be embarrassed. You don’t toy with Scats; I’ve personally witnessed a Mustang run neck and neck with a Ferrari and believe me the Ferrari dude was pissed about it. I had no skin in the game and at the end of the day it comes down to the driver and who has the balls.
Drive a Scat like our reviewer and I’m sure you’ll be just as surprised as he was in the video.
BTW, where did I write that Scats can beat exotics ? The point is the exotics aren’t all that; they get tested all the time and sometimes get beat; there’s tons of video on UA-cam to prove it son…..
@robert I appreciate all your input man. I love reading things about these challengers like this. Coming from a Camaro community it's often pretty down played. Glad I did it. Keep knocking them down man
@@RARochester Let me know when you find a video of a baby scat challenging a 720.
You're telling me a 500HP 4400 Pound RWD car even stands a chance compared to a 700HP AWD 3400Pound car?
Stop the cap bro.
It sounds like a mid muffler delete or a fatback is that the stock exhaust
Ya that sounds right it's def not stock cause I rode in my buddy's new scat and it's way too quiet
I test drove a Camaro SS 1LE I liked it but I felt claustrophobic inside of it. I am 6ft 3in and I love the room inside my 2021 Dodge Challenger SCATPACK and it’s a manual transmission as well. It doesn’t have rev match like the Camaro. That’s what I wish the ScatPack had.
Yup kinda how I feel too at 6ft 4. Loved the room. But can't argue with my desire to be on the track. Either way fantastic cars from both of them
Sounds like they deleted muffler. Prev, owner definitely messed with it since they debadged the rear.
I love my scat pack 1320 that only comes auto but has all the performance pages as the demon when I want to drive stick I drive my c7 stingray
You sir have both fantastic cars
Definitely noy a stock exhaust. sounds amazing.
You should try a manual Hellcat man! It's like a scat except your hitting 120 when you would be hitting 80 in a scat.
Haha that would be awesome! I'll def have to find one these cars are a ton of fun. Appreciate you checking out the channel boss
I like the challenger wide body’s. I think they’re the best looking muscle car. That said I like ripping in my 1LE to much to change.
I don't think you should change it's a whole different car not a good comparison. But the widebodys do look great
My brother has a challenger red eye and it’s awesome!! I love everything about it… until I get back in the Camaro. It feels like a jet. I’d take the challenger if it was my daily. My 1LE is a weekend toy.
Honestly the challenger looks like it suits your style. The reality is that all muscle cars are amazing, its hard to choose from.
Good review ! Scat Packs are viscous on the street, and the Track! You have to be in Custom Mode to change the features.
Don't listen to the clueless trolls bro, any SRT product is badass! The ZF 8 Speed version is a second faster ET.
Thank you much! I love these cars. Wish i could honestly own one of each of the big 3. The challenger scat has such an attitude i love.
Great video, I own a Widebody Charger
Love those widebodys man. These are very fun cars with bad attitudes. Enjoy that beast bro and appreciate you checking out the vid.
Just wondering if anyone has tried the manual scat pack versus the RT in a manual.
I’m wondering if the clutch and shift feel the same, or how do they differ?
Same. My 15 Srt has a bit more clutch and not as good shifting as my 13 R/T was. Must be the consol position. A Barton will fix that.
@@morrischoo9717 Thanks! I drove the scat pack and loved it. I ended up buying an RT without even test driving😆.Sadly I have to wait four months for it to be built🤞
You will love the car. It's a perfect balance of Power and comfort. My R/T received more attention due to the factory Plus package Red full grain leather inserts and phantom black paint. The cars are the same except for the noted Power and suspension. But the R/T is a more comfortable daily that is very easy on the pocket with the same sound and fun.
If you're in the market for a 2 door muscle car. It really comes down to styling, the need for more room (if you're a bigger or taller person) and if you want a more old school feeling muscle car. I love the way the Challenger WB Scat looks but for me personally I would rather have the all around better performing car. And there's no way this boat is gonna handle nearly as good as a 1LE. Also the tremec transmission is much better than the one in the Challenger. That's just me tho. It's still a nice car
The 1le and the challenger are not comparison cars except for the fact of their heritage. The challenger is the better dailyable street car. Camaro is better performance car. But they are not comparable by any means except the fact they are both rwd v8 manuals. If it were me I'd own one of each haha
@@Hot-1LE I was comparing them based off exactly what you said, 2 door, manual, muscle cars, price pretty much at the same thing. I would only buy the Scat in widebody form. Standard styling doesn't really do it for me. They're both nice cars but no way I would own 2 V8's in a time like this. Gimme the 1LE and a Tesla Model 3 performance.
I had one for 2 years and loved it but life things made me get rid of it. I still miss it!
Ah sorry to hear it man. I kinda miss driving it even though I had it for a very short time. It's an impressionable car for sure.
Right hand drive challenger. Nice
😅😅
That's cool where the driver side is on the other side of the car
🤣 flipped camera forgot to edit that.
This thing is stock? What catback exhaust?
Im quite sure it was stock mufflers but had the resonator removed. It sounded so good
What song is that intro beat from?
Neffex "I just wana be great"
On 3 lists for ZL1 1LE. Guess its gonna be like the lottery if i get one
I'm hoping for you bro!
I like the way you give it respect even though you are a Camaro owner. That’s pretty cool to see. And as a Challenger HC owner, I think I would be impressed with the ZL1. I’ve actually thought about going that route. The Challenger is just so comfortable and a great cruiser. My main issue with mine is the thieves are after them big time. I just had my sunroof busted out. The idiot wanted to get my car but didn’t realize it was a manual. I’ve never wanted to hit someone in the head with a baseball bat until that A$$Hat broke into my car. Anyway, great review and I’m Subd.
Damm another reason to own a manual! Sorry to hear that man
@@Hot-1LE Yeah I just wish the jerk SOB MF had checked before he decided to do all that crap to my car. It has been in the shop for almost two weeks. The biggest issue with Dodge or any MOPAR is the ease with which these morons can steal them. I don’t think the Camaros suffer from the same problem. Makes me think about getting one even more lately.
@JZ_Cars man i feel for you. Id be outraged too. Crazy how people think they can just steal and break other peoples things smh. Camaros def dont suffer it as much thats certainly a mopar thing at that scale
@@Hot-1LE Thanks man!!! You definitely know how I feel. Out of curiosity, how does the ZL1 do on road trips? Is it a decent car on the highway? Can you eek out any gas mileage in 6th gear? Those have magnetic ride right? Is it adjustable? Hate to be bombarding you with questions but I really need to learn about the ZL1.
@JZ_Cars its amazing all around car. Mag ride is adjustable from tour to sport to track. You can kill it on a race track or canyon then cruise home incomfy seats ac and smooth suspension. Its a big reason why i got this car is the versatility. Highway i think im around 24-25mpg pretty good considering the power. I dont mind the questions man anything that helps ✌️
I refer to the SPWB as "Beastly," and the HC's as a "Brut." Much prefer my 2019 SPWB, 6-speed. Straight off showroom floor with 13 miles.
What feels faster the manual scat or a camaro? Ss
Feel about the same but the challenger is a little more fun with the shorter gearing on the streets.
Anything manual is the best honestly last year I went shopping for a car and I went manual transmission hunting I didn’t have a specific car in mind just that it had to be stick shift was looking for a Camaro couldn’t find none stick shift after I looked at a 2015 Honda SI I didn’t like the color until I found my blue 350z ❤ 6 speed manual and manual cars are so Damm fun I’ve had a couple cars my first 3 were automatic and my last 5 were manual transmission ❤ will never drive automatic again in my LIFE 😂
😅 i know that feeling man! Congrats on the find they keep getting harder to find
@@Hot-1LE bro I didn’t see your profile picture is that your Camaro nice color !
Yessir! I appreciate that man!
I've got a 23 Last Call Scat Pack Wide Body Challenger w/ 6MT in production. Would like to eventually twin turbo it. Can safely boost to 5lbs and get around 620 whp. Cheaper than a Hellcat with better gas mileage ;)
Less insurance, but no warranty for the mods will void that. 5 pounds should be safe. I am doing a Barton, factory ported tb, underdrive Assy. Pulley, ported intake , T/A Cai, and 100 shot of Nitrous and a tune. Should be over 600 at crank easily. 15 Srt 392. Nittos will be shelved for a staggered wheel set with better tires.
I luv the Scat Pack, I would buy one.
Go ahead buy it, called your self Hot Scatty. 😂
🤣 they are fantastic cars. I'm glad I finally drove it for sure
the charger scat is better in handling. personally I like the chargers better, they drive a bit better
Most people that talk about handling don’t track anyway. Challenger’s definitely have their place for car lovers
just got my sp widebody, def gotta get used to how heavy and wide it is.
Congrats on the beast!
@@Hot-1LE ay thanks man I already went catless and straight piped it 😂
@mrdr_392 😂 straight to the point! I like it haha
Sounds like the PO did the dynomax mini race bullets in place of the mid-mufflers
Sounded excellent
@@Hot-1LE I had an 18 Scat manual and did that. For $200 installed.. you won't find a better sounding exhaust for the 6.4, imo..
They can say what they want about dodge but definitely cant say dodge didnt go out with a bang the 6.4 is special performance wise and sound wise manual of course haha
I love my Scat Widebody Shaker with the TR 6060. There are faster cars, there are better handling cars... but there isn't a more fun car to drive.
The only way to own it is in a Manual. There is no active rev match or flat foot shifting, you just need to know how to shift.
Anyway, Subbed.
Bro thank you for the sub! Glad to have you here. And a manual driver at that so i know your a purist. Nice car man those challengers are legends.
@@Hot-1LE I test drove all three and it's hard to go wring with any of them to be honest. I am going to miss these three...
But for me, I wanted a bit more room (6'2" 275) and loved the way the car fealt. So I special ordered one with the WB, Shaker, Loaded and the 6 Speed. But I really just love the car makes me feel when I drive it. This car is all about rolling down the street, Hemi a-burbling, Stranglehold comes on the Harmon Kardon... yeah man... you feel fucking good in this ride.
If I want faster I can always cam and tune it.. which I will after the warranty is up.
Anyway, your review here was the same way I fealt when I drove one the first time. It's a car that just feels right.
I like your videos and i own a 21 widebody scatpack with the shaker hood. Thanks for promoting it but the language kills it for me and the grand boys.
Enjoy your beast man! Yeah if you cant take the language this def isnt your channel haha
I just sold my rapid blue 22 SS 1LE (A10) because the auto was boring. My 22 Lt1 m6 was truly more fun. I've followed your videos for years. I'm shopping for a manual and I've been peeking at scat packs. I want a big soft ride, lots of power, and a manual. I think you've sold me on a scat pack manual.
Your a manual kinda guy i respect that! The scat was a blast man. I still wish i had one sometimes haha
@@Hot-1LEI ended up picking up a 2021 Challenger Scat Pack 6 speed. Doesn't handle like my 1LE, nor is it as fast as my LT1 M6, but it has a great sensation of speed. It soaks up the miles.
@mattquerio congrats man! Theres always faster cars. Its about how it makes you feel driving it. Enjoy man thats a beast of a machine
Do it. Come to the mopar side. We have matching mullets.
😅 very tempting
The challengers are really fun. Tried both the scatpack and hellcat (as well as a pp1 gt) but I just kept coming back to the ss 1le. The interior on the scatpack and hellpack was really nice though. Definitely a great car for a roadtrip. To me the scatpack just doesnt give the same sense of speed as the ss and there is significantly more body roll. Now the hellcat has that sense of speed for sure but its sooo squirrely (I did not drive the widebody hellcat). The clutch is significantly heavier in the hellcat as well which would probably get old over time for those who plan to daily it.
I was really really close to going with the hellcat I drove any they even knocked a lot more off the price then I was expecting but in the end the ss 1le was just more engaging. So much more so that I decided to wait almost 1/2 a year going through the ordering process. But to each their own! Like you said they are all fantastic cars.
Really appreciate your input on that. I agree on all fronts here. The extra torque in the scat was very welcomed over the Camaro but your right the sense of speed is there a bit more. Thanks for watching man
What if I told you dodge and Chevy both list the scat and ss 1le 0-60 at 4.2s?
Doesn't matter what you drive, the armchair quarterbacks out there will have ignorant comments. The 392 is no joke man, badass Street Muscle 💪.
Absolutely bro. Totally agreed
Almost 46,000 for a 4 year old car? Retired and everything paid for and still too much for me. But I do own a 1985 Mustang LX notch with a 427 Windsor 540 HP @ 2875 Lbs.!
Well you don’t need to replace that! Lol. But ya carmax plus it was 2021 year of the over priced cars. Haha.
Also someone who actually knows how to drive and appreciate a car did the car alot of justice
Thank you bro. Loved that scat. Such a great car.
Let’s see you drive a mustang s550 maybe a used 350 or a base model Mach one …. Unless you want to drive the my-82 and give us a review on that and see if it’s actually the trans or the drivers
I'll definitely do this man. I owned a s550. driven the mt82s and yeah they are bad 😅 but Im.def trying to get more car for this channel. appreciate you man
@@Hot-1LE I think you would love the sound of the 350 and fall in love it’s just a risky buy when there used with the 5.2s unreliability for most, but my dad happened to put 64k miles on his with plenty of track days before trading it in for the c8….. another cool manual car out there I think would be cool would have to be a manual bmw 240i M
When you say 350 are you talking what now? I just hear 350z. Lol which I've driven a lot of. The 240i is a really good car I'd def consider it. It's sooo hard to find cars right now especially manuals. It's taken me months for this challenger. Months for the zl1. Very slow process but I'm determined to make this channel for all of the sports car fans. (Don't be surprised if I'm back in a 1le soon). Thanks for input hommie
@@Hot-1LE my bad *gt350 👍🏼
Ohhh I gotcha bro! Lol my brain isn't working this early for me hahaha your right I need to drive one of those. I haven't been a Ford fan for a while but it does deserve it's moment.
Theres a few things bother me about the challenger..
1. Everyone has it. It’s become extremely popular.
2. It has looked basically the same since 2008.
3. The interior looks dated and everything is angled at the driver.
4. Higher price.
5. I might as well consider muscle sedans and have the extra doors and nicer interior.
6. I’d rather have a car that big in auto. (Idk why.)
I love the challenger. But since I don’t have a family, kids, or any friends, and I already own a Lexus ES for comfort/ convenience it doesn’t add up.
If you buy a challenger brother buy the hellact redeye and also I don't know if am tripping or high looks like you driving on the right hand side 🤔
hahahaha yeah man I was in a rush and during editing I never even realized it 🤣. I don't got 80k for a car so I'm good. besides I like track driving haha appreciate you watching man
@@Hot-1LE always men looking forward to your next video 📹
@@Hot-1LE you should try the charger it has better handling
Love the challengers. But dam that is the ugliest and very long manual shifter I have seen in a long time without the car being pre 90's lol
That’s a classic style.
He shifts great. Me, not as good. But a Barton would be an improvement.
Only problem, not right hand drive.
🤣🤣
Why are you on the wrong side of the car?!?
These damn european challengers i tell ya 🤣
I’ve never cared for dodge because of the interior. Even the hellcats have shit interior lol.
Join the mopar life man … haha
Coming back and watching this now that I'm a couple weeks away... I think that car has a mid muffler delete. It's crazy how much hate this car gets from mustang and maro owners...but I get it. They have a car that is technically faster and better handling but no one really cares. They just don't have the gravitas a Challenger has. The V6s draw looks. The widebody will draw crowds.
Yup was pretty sure it had the mid muffler delete. The muscle car guys are pretty polarized by brand and there is some legitimacy to it, as you stated. But I'll tell you man I really really like a scat pack challenger. My buddy has a wide body with shaker and it just looks like a really good piece of steak. Full respect for dodge for making these