T/A or Shaker. People can't not look. For decades, I felt like I missed out on the greatest time in history for muscle car enthusiasts. It took almost 50 years but Dodge brought it back and did it right.
The T/A package has the Hellcat (much larger) airbox base and gives three sources of cold air: 1) the Mopar Performance hood that is sealed to a large, OPEN conical air filter, 2) the T/A scripted, illuminated headlight systen that is OPEN on the driver's side. There is a tube that ducts the cold air fron the headlight opening directly to the airbox. It is a sealed path that doesn't allow hot air in and 3) a large, triangular shaped hole in the bottom of the airbox that takes in cold air BENEATH the engine. All of these are unsilenced as well, and there are no kinked hoses or other silencing functions to kill your SOUND and POWER. This makes it superior over tge Shaker Hood setup thar has small but functional holes in the Shaker. Also, it dues nit have the larger volume Hellcat bottom airbox, nor the Mopar Perfoenance hood that is sealed via rubber "fitting' to an otherwise open airbox (no top; much larger box overall).. Therefore, the intake airflow is superior with the T/A package over the Shaker. The T/A package also has 3" lower spring rates and larger sway bars - along with the white faced gouges, blacked out hood, roof, and teunk, T/A lettering in the seats and on the sides of the car and on the right (passenger) side of the rear spoiler, etc. Go T/A!!
The T/A was the original trim when Dodge got into Trans Am racing. They didn't fair to well against the Z-28's or Boss 302, but whenever I see one, I can't help but think of the number 77 Dodge Challenger driven by Sam Posey in Trans Am in the 70's.
Awesome video, great camera work, and you handle that (manual) trans like a pro......So far the re-sale value has been holding up pretty good but i'm loath to lay down 50 grand until i see more data
Damn. Its a shame you havent made anymore content on this vehicle, wouldve loved to see “car maintenance” of this vehicle, cruising, dig, roll races, of this beast. but keep doin you champ!
can you do a video of the cost of having a manual and also the mpgs. I have a Charger Scat Pack and just want to do a comparison because I want to get a manual challenger 392 shaker. The white gauges are a must for me
Thank you! Yes, I still have it, and I am loving it. I should be posting an update video soon and creating more content with the car. I am 23,000 miles in and absolutely love it, its a riot
Beautiful car! I'm torn between the R/T Shaker or the 392 Shaker Go Mango Orange (manual of course!) I live in South Florida a block from the beach and thinking maybe the 392 is a bit overkill. I love listening to you roll through the gears man lol. Maybe a camera angle between the seats to see the shifting. Congrats on your new ride.. SAVE THE MANUALS!
The 392 is the way to go. If you get the 5.7, you will regret not going 392. It is such an unbelievable car. I live in a decent size city, and I feel like the 392 is perfect for me
The 392 is the ONLY way to go. Don't make a mistake now thar you'll regret later. As the V8 Challengers won't be made anymore, they will be harder to find. Get the 392. You only have the power you use.
I enjoyed your video review, especially since you came from a much smaller vehicle, I traded in a 15' GT/PP Mustang manual only at the time, for a base 19' manual scat pack challenger with only the shaker option. The challenger felt so massive compared to the mustang, even with the 392/manual and retro looks it was tough for me to adjust after the mustang, as one felt like a sports car with it's interior wrapped around you and the other didn't feel as sporty with the spacious interior and an extra 500 pounds of weight. I know apples to oranges. I did keep the scat pack for 9 months before I traded it for a GT350 which is true sports car. The Challenger is a true American Muscle car with the looks and sounds to go with it. Enjoy your T/A especially since you opted for a manual trans as it gives a performance car a different dimension to driving.
@@Carguy1999Reviews I really like the GT350 and the driving experience it delivers. It was expensive but you get a lot of performance features for the money. If you thought the Mustang GT was fun to drive, with the tremec tr 3160 close ration box and the flat plane crank Voodoo it's a driving experience like no other american sports coupe.
Hey man ik you was talking about the Blizzak winter tires, you should look at winter performance tires like the Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4, you have grip for dry roads and for snow/slush at winter temperatures. These type of tires give you much better all around performance compared to all season tires and then get a dedicated summer tires like Michelin Pilot Sport 4s. This way you don't lose performance. Awesome car btw
I thought about it, but decided against it. I have never driven one without the delay valve, so I have no idea how different it feels, but I just decided to keep it as is in case I want to sell it. Also, I heard rumors that deleting the valve can cause warranty issues, so I did not want that headache
@@SOLOSOLOSOLOSOLOSOLOSOLO Unnecessary stress placed unto clutch hydraulics from a prolonged standstill period. It’s a bit different on a motorbike, but the same logic still applies.
Hey man can you post another pov with your updated owner experience : services mpg thigh ya regrets things you think could be better driver comfort etc Im considering one and thank you
Keep these great videos coming I love watching them. By the way I have a 6 speed 392 scat pack. And I was shocked to see your 0 to 60 times with a stick. Are u using launch control ? Or from a roll ?
@@hemijoe3929 thank you so much! I am on track right now for an upload every day. I do use launch control from a dig. I do a quick spin of the tires to clean them, then run. I have the stock 275 p zero neros. Best I have ever gotten is a 3.3 on a perfect launch at just about sea level, 30°F air temp. Cannot replicate the 3.3, but I regularly get 3.8s to 4.2s when I try it out
Beautiful car! I have a 19 RT scat pack. Challengers are beastly and menacing. Mustangs and camaros are too sleek and look weak. I love that challengers are big and heavy. Seats are very comfortable like a couch on wheels. Lots of practical room. The engine growl is just enough to notice but not overwhelming unless I floor it. My only complaint is the bottom side bolsters on the front seats. Getting in and out is a bit annoying since I try to avoid crushing the bolster each time.
@@Carguy1999Reviews great to hear man. I've been looking at the scat pack wide body in manual of course. Your car has amazing sound for being stock! Hows the shifting on the manual? Pretty stiff I imagine?
@@marcoseesmarcoshares thank you! Thats a great choice! The shifter is amazing. It is like a rifle bolt going into gears. I love it. The clutch is also light for what it is. Really easy to get used to. Manual is much rarer too, which is good for resale
congrats on the new car! I'm not sure if you have heard this but most people agree that the 6.4L has dumbed down power numbers from dodge and they really make about 500hp.
Did you ever end up taking it to the drag strip? It’s hard to find good manual scat pack videos of that. Pretty sure the trap is 114, instead of 124. No way it’s in the same ballpark as a C7 Z06. I wish, as I just ordered a ‘22 manual scat Widebody shaker. Thanks for the vid!
Thank you! I do not have a catch can installed. I have heard mixed reviews on both ends. People saying that its fine as is, and the people insisting on installing a catch can. I prefer to do as little mods as possible to my cars, so I decided to leave it as is. I know people who have put close to 100k miles on theirs without a catch can without issues.
@Carguy1999Reviews I'll still run to 300K if you take care of it. Why complicated things? Plus, it gives Dodge one reason that they don't need to deny a warranty claim in the UNLIKELY event that something does happen. They'll use the catch can as the sacrificial lamb. Nope, engines have run a long time in the past without them. The big hipo engine builders like Banks and others don't use them, so hmmmm probably not needed.
Only major highway trip I undertook in my manual Scat was from Jax, FL to SC, which at about 75mph, I'd manage around 18-19mpg. Now keep in mind, 6.4L will require 93 Octane ONLY, if I'm not mistaken, 5.7s still take regular. Although, in my case, had I settled with the 5.7, I would've eventually ended up in the 6.4, it's a curse lmao. Even now I find myself glancing at listings for manual Hellcats 🤣
@@Nickowar Im kind of in an odd situation. I have a 09 300c heritage edition 5.7 hemi that has almost 200k on it (i drove 100k of it). So I ordered a 2023 brz that I only deposited a refundable 500$ if I dont like it or buying a 5year old or newer challenger 6mt. I live an hour from the blue ridgeparkway and mostly road motorcycles my whole life. So Im fighting with the adult and kid in me. Ive done all the work on my 300c mechanically and they are easy to work on. The subaru makes me question my choice. Why would I buy a car that shines on 1% of my driving vs a challenger that is comfortable for the 99% of my driving?
I had a Mustang 16 Mustang GT with the Performance Pack (5.2 Intake manifold) The thing about the Challenger I would have to get used to is that red line at 6'000 RPM, In the Coyotes you're just getting started at 6.
That is for sure one downfall of the 392. I have run into redline many times. All the torque is down low, so it really doesnt rev high. If the mustang had more space, I would have bought one for sure, probably in the form of the gt350
@@Carguy1999Reviews Not really a downfall, imo.. More akin to what this car is.. a muscle car.. not a high-revving 'sports car' which is what the Mustang and Camaro are classified as now, imo.. This is the last 'true' muscle car.. But with the double-wishbone all around, it acquits itself surprisingly well, handling wise, for something weighing 4200lbs..
Yes, but the Challenger has that low end, drivable, TIRE SHREDDING TORQUE that makes the car "feel" good, even if you don't smoke the tires (which is easy to do BTW). The manual 392 has 3 more HP but, more importantly, 10 lb-ft more of TORQUE over the auto trans. This is because it is not as wide as the auto (but is longer). Therefore, Dodge can run a larger, more free-flowing exhaust. So, HP wins table discussions, but torque wins real races and gives you the drivability feel that you want.
Yeah, but Ford has more recalls than ANY manufacturer in history, so the Challenger is a better choice - plus it's mote comfortable and practical and-with the 392-just as fast as the 5.0, if not a little quicker on the street, where it's not perfect. Plus, more torque (485 lb-ft along with 488 HP in the manual Challenger; auto is 485HP/475TQ. This is because the manual has a narrower, but longer, gearbox thar allows for large exhaust to be installed) just FEELS good, whether or not you use it in a hooligan, tire shredding way! Another benefit is fuel economy. With more torque, you have to depress the GO PEDAL less to move the car.
The only mod I suggest is a Barton shifter. It's well worth it and I believe he has 15% off right now. Also, don't forget skip shift eliminator and I also highly recommend the clutch delay valve removal..., another simple job that greatly increases clutch performance.
Thanks for the advice! I don't know if this car has the skip shift feature, because I have never encountered it forcing me into 4th instead of 2nd. I really want to do the clutch delay valve delete though. The clutch feel is really one of my main complaints with this car. It is a really easy job to do as well, I just need to find a place to do it, ideally with a lift to make it even easier.
The T/A 392 is a $3400 option package you add onto a Scat Pack, much like the widebody package. If it was its own separate model, that would not be the case. Therefore, it is a Scat Pack at heart, just with the T/A package
Canadian built...(yay)...I just love these cars, the clutch to me is perfect, it's heavier but the throw is so short, and it starts grabbing pretty much as you start letting off, ...as for the dust try some AytoGlym Wheel Protector If you can find it, it's here in Canada. I the Camaro is nice but the sight sucks...great to drive though, Mustang for me ergonomically sucks as I have to sit "side saddle". I miss my 2012 SRT...but as soon as this Covid 19 thing is over and i'm back to work.. the hunt for a "unicorn" will begin again..a nice SRT 392...white.. Sepia Laguna leather.. 6spd. BY the way are you experiencing lock out from 1st to 2nd under higher RPM's if you try and shift fast? my 2012 had the problem stupid skip shift.
B-MAN what's weird is I have yet to experience skip shift. I have heard rumors about it but t have not had any issues at all. I will look into the wheel protector for sure! The dust is an absolute pain
@@Carguy1999Reviews I wore my dust as a badge of honour, If you want the stopping power that is. As for the skip shift I think it's when your driving more eco friendly, then again it might also be up to the shifters redesign as well, I had a horrible time going from 1st to 2nd when I brought it up to redline on my first real pull...also.. I drove mine in the winter as well without issue lol
B-MAN I drove mine all winter here in the northeast USA on the all season 275s and had no issues. Even drove through 2ft of snow in order to clean out our driveway and she plowed right through it. Really surprised me
Carguy1999 Reviews the 4,200 lbs helps for grip and stability, plus... I’ve started in 4th at times, all that torque. And despite all that I was averaging 7-8 litres per 100kms In 40/60 driving
I was able to get the car at dealer invoice price, so right about 3000 under sticker price. I don't know where you are based or if you are willing to travel to buy the car, but Virginia dodge dealers have some screaming deals on Scat Packs with up to around 10k under sticker
Any difference between your T/A and a 392 scat pack ? As far as I can tell it's graphics pretty much isn't it ? I love the color combination of the green with black graphics. Do they still make the T/A that you know of ? I'll be looking to buy a challenger 6.4 litre in the next 3 weeks or so . Who doesn't love the power and sound of a hemi 😉 any advice when buying one of these cars or things to look for , problems that they might have ? Keep up the good work!!
The T/A is a package on top of the Scat Pack. The big additions are the graphics, a factory cold air intake, and Bilstein shocks on all four corners. The package is a little over $3k. You can get the Scat Pack with electronic Dampening suspension, but not the T/A. Are you looking new or used? In new cars, really the only thing to worry about is pricing. For used cars, make sure that there is no rod knock or any major signs of modification in the past. The 6.4L is pretty close to its limits as it is, and putting any more power-adding modifications without building up the motor is asking for trouble. Don't worry about damage to the front splitter, as the part is like $50 from Dodge. Another factor to look at, in both new and used, is the tires. Make sure they had good tread life left and no signs of burnouts. New cars shouldn't be a worry, but I have heard some stories of dealers joyriding cars and doing burnouts. Overall, they are pretty bulletproof. I have almost 24k miles on mine with no real major issues to speak of. If you want, DM me on Instagram @ Carguy1999_Reviews and I can help you through the process and answer any questions you may have. I work at a dealership too, so i can provide some details about the process if you want.
The GT and Camaro were also lacking excess weight! Ended up with a Camaro SS. Have taken a passenger in the Camaro and fine for short trips. The Challenger T/A and Scat Pack were good test drives but they just felt too bulky/heavy to be much fun. Didn't feel like the car liked to be hustled. The Camaro SS though? Hell yes, way more sporty and nimble and beastly fast.
Not sure about practical...lol We don't drive muscle cars for economy. 392 is smiles per mile man... Great street performer that you can also race at the dragstrip with. It's an 11 second car all day with a drag pak.
Nope, definitely mine. My dad has only driven it once, and has not paid a cent of this car, and same with my mother. I am working 40 hours a week while in school and being smart about money in order to afford it. It is definitely at the top of my budget, but my name, and only my name, is on the title and registration of the car, and I am the only one making payments
T/A or Shaker. People can't not look. For decades, I felt like I missed out on the greatest time in history for muscle car enthusiasts. It took almost 50 years but Dodge brought it back and did it right.
Nice dog
The T/A package has the Hellcat (much larger) airbox base and gives three sources of cold air: 1) the Mopar Performance hood that is sealed to a large, OPEN conical air filter, 2) the T/A scripted, illuminated headlight systen that is OPEN on the driver's side. There is a tube that ducts the cold air fron the headlight opening directly to the airbox. It is a sealed path that doesn't allow hot air in and 3) a large, triangular shaped hole in the bottom of the airbox that takes in cold air BENEATH the engine. All of these are unsilenced as well, and there are no kinked hoses or other silencing functions to kill your SOUND and POWER. This makes it superior over tge Shaker Hood setup thar has small but functional holes in the Shaker. Also, it dues nit have the larger volume Hellcat bottom airbox, nor the Mopar Perfoenance hood that is sealed via rubber "fitting' to an otherwise open airbox (no top; much larger box overall).. Therefore, the intake airflow is superior with the T/A package over the Shaker. The T/A package also has 3" lower spring rates and larger sway bars - along with the white faced gouges, blacked out hood, roof, and teunk, T/A lettering in the seats and on the sides of the car and on the right (passenger) side of the rear spoiler, etc. Go T/A!!
The T/A was the original trim when Dodge got into Trans Am racing. They didn't fair to well against the Z-28's or Boss 302, but whenever I see one, I can't help but think of the number 77 Dodge Challenger driven by Sam Posey in Trans Am in the 70's.
Great content! Thanks for showing us your Chally T/A!
Awesome video, great camera work, and you handle that (manual) trans like a pro......So far the re-sale value has been holding up pretty good but i'm loath to lay down 50 grand until i see more data
Beautiful car man! love it! Oh, and I love your transmission choice!😁👍
Sublime with the T/A package is a great combo. The contrast works well with the high impact colors.
Sounds awesome, looks good and you definitely made the correct decision about purchasing it! Btw... I own a 2018 R/T Scatpack
6 speed myself! 😎
Nice choice and congratulations on getting one enjoy your ride
Congrats bro, My dream car, but the IndiGo Blue !!
Nice tour of the Manchester airport. [ Cool Challenger too]
Love that car
Wow that’s fast !! It’s amazing that a car that heavy can produce those numbers.
I agree! A car that weighs 4500lbs should not put down those numbers
Damn. Its a shame you havent made anymore content on this vehicle, wouldve loved to see “car maintenance” of this vehicle, cruising, dig, roll races, of this beast. but keep doin you champ!
I know, I really need to make more. Its weird because I drive it every day, so it seems normal, but it definitely needs more videos
Yes make more videos
You definitely made the right choice! T/A Challengers ROCK! I had a '70 in Plum Crazy & Black ... wish I'd never sold it. 🤘 ^v^
Nice review. Nice ride.
can you do a video of the cost of having a manual and also the mpgs. I have a Charger Scat Pack and just want to do a comparison because I want to get a manual challenger 392 shaker. The white gauges are a must for me
Car looks sick
Thank you!
love the color
Best car ever dude !!!
Yeah you absolutely made the right choice! A ride along reaction vid would be pretty nice
Yes! Like a grandma or something would be epic
@@StalePhish u goin to hell🤣🤣🤣
NITROUSSSSS
That is a nice and a fast car
Love that V8 baby!
I know its a year later but I gotta say thats a great choice. What a car!!! Hope your still enjoying it.
Thank you! Yes, I still have it, and I am loving it. I should be posting an update video soon and creating more content with the car. I am 23,000 miles in and absolutely love it, its a riot
Do you still have the GTR?
@@Carguy1999Reviews I sold it last year and it still hurts my soul to say that loll
How do you have track mode? I have a 2018 t/a and it doesn’t have that option.
Beautiful car! I'm torn between the R/T Shaker or the 392 Shaker Go Mango Orange (manual of course!) I live in South Florida a block from the beach and thinking maybe the 392 is a bit overkill. I love listening to you roll through the gears man lol. Maybe a camera angle between the seats to see the shifting. Congrats on your new ride.. SAVE THE MANUALS!
The 392 is the way to go. If you get the 5.7, you will regret not going 392. It is such an unbelievable car. I live in a decent size city, and I feel like the 392 is perfect for me
The 392 is the ONLY way to go. Don't make a mistake now thar you'll regret later. As the V8 Challengers won't be made anymore, they will be harder to find. Get the 392. You only have the power you use.
I like it
Nice ass car!!👍👍👍
Does the center display show what gear you are in?
I enjoyed your video review, especially since you came from a much smaller vehicle, I traded in a 15' GT/PP Mustang manual only at the time, for a base 19' manual scat pack challenger with only the shaker option. The challenger felt so massive compared to the mustang, even with the 392/manual and retro looks it was tough for me to adjust after the mustang, as one felt like a sports car with it's interior wrapped around you and the other didn't feel as sporty with the spacious interior and an extra 500 pounds of weight. I know apples to oranges. I did keep the scat pack for 9 months before I traded it for a GT350 which is true sports car. The Challenger is a true American Muscle car with the looks and sounds to go with it. Enjoy your T/A especially since you opted for a manual trans as it gives a performance car a different dimension to driving.
Thank you! How do you like the 350? I really want one. They are killer cars
@@Carguy1999Reviews I really like the GT350 and the driving experience it delivers. It was expensive but you get a lot of performance features for the money. If you thought the Mustang GT was fun to drive, with the tremec tr 3160 close ration box and the flat plane crank Voodoo it's a driving experience like no other american sports coupe.
I love American Muscle!!!
Hey man ik you was talking about the Blizzak winter tires, you should look at winter performance tires like the Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4, you have grip for dry roads and for snow/slush at winter temperatures. These type of tires give you much better all around performance compared to all season tires and then get a dedicated summer tires like Michelin Pilot Sport 4s. This way you don't lose performance. Awesome car btw
Ok cool, thank you!
Welcome to the mopar family
MOPAR OR NO CAR!
My Dream Car except IndiGo Blue bro !!!
Yo ! Do you still have this car? How did it workout for you? Reflections?
I would suggest for you however, that you replace the stock shifter with a Barton as I have. 😎 You’ll love it as I do mine! 🙂
I replaced mine with a Hurst Piatol Grip (the new style but still the same principle; Google it), and it made a HUGE difference over the stock one.
It’s pretty sad that there’s also a clutch delay valve (CDV) inside of the clutch line. Have you decided on removing it, or have already done so?
I thought about it, but decided against it. I have never driven one without the delay valve, so I have no idea how different it feels, but I just decided to keep it as is in case I want to sell it. Also, I heard rumors that deleting the valve can cause warranty issues, so I did not want that headache
5:12 RIP throwout bearing
R.I.P clutch he holds it way to long
Could you explain further. Thanks
It’s fine. Not ideal but it’s not paper
@@SOLOSOLOSOLOSOLOSOLOSOLO Unnecessary stress placed unto clutch hydraulics from a prolonged standstill period. It’s a bit different on a motorbike, but the same logic still applies.
Hey man can you post another pov with your updated owner experience : services mpg thigh ya regrets things you think could be better driver comfort etc Im considering one and thank you
Yes he should
Definitely made the right choice in cars !! Hope you still have it
Thank you! I still do!
Keep these great videos coming I love watching them. By the way I have a 6 speed 392 scat pack. And I was shocked to see your 0 to 60 times with a stick. Are u using launch control ? Or from a roll ?
@@hemijoe3929 thank you so much! I am on track right now for an upload every day. I do use launch control from a dig. I do a quick spin of the tires to clean them, then run. I have the stock 275 p zero neros. Best I have ever gotten is a 3.3 on a perfect launch at just about sea level, 30°F air temp. Cannot replicate the 3.3, but I regularly get 3.8s to 4.2s when I try it out
Beautiful car! I have a 19 RT scat pack. Challengers are beastly and menacing. Mustangs and camaros are too sleek and look weak. I love that challengers are big and heavy. Seats are very comfortable like a couch on wheels. Lots of practical room. The engine growl is just enough to notice but not overwhelming unless I floor it. My only complaint is the bottom side bolsters on the front seats. Getting in and out is a bit annoying since I try to avoid crushing the bolster each time.
Will be eyeing one of these very soon. Sweet ride. Hows it been holding up so far?
She is doing great! 13000 miles and no issues at all(knock on wood)
@@Carguy1999Reviews great to hear man. I've been looking at the scat pack wide body in manual of course. Your car has amazing sound for being stock! Hows the shifting on the manual? Pretty stiff I imagine?
@@marcoseesmarcoshares thank you! Thats a great choice! The shifter is amazing. It is like a rifle bolt going into gears. I love it. The clutch is also light for what it is. Really easy to get used to. Manual is much rarer too, which is good for resale
Has the dash rattle shown up yet?
How's the clutch brother, Congrats dude, Sick ride !!!
Its a short throw, but super easy to use!
For the Winter keep it Pirelli but use the Sottozero Serie 2's same exact size my man !!
congrats on the new car! I'm not sure if you have heard this but most people agree that the 6.4L has dumbed down power numbers from dodge and they really make about 500hp.
Does it have that active electric valve exhaust like Durango SRT ?
Yes it does! However in sport and track mode, it is always open
Did you ever end up taking it to the drag strip? It’s hard to find good manual scat pack videos of that. Pretty sure the trap is 114, instead of 124. No way it’s in the same ballpark as a C7 Z06. I wish, as I just ordered a ‘22 manual scat Widebody shaker. Thanks for the vid!
I did take it down the track, but the best was a 13.1 at 108mph, awful launch and being conservative as it was my daily
🙋🏻♂️ Great Video Man, What’s your thoughts on a catch can, Do you have one on it? Thanks 🤙
Thank you! I do not have a catch can installed. I have heard mixed reviews on both ends. People saying that its fine as is, and the people insisting on installing a catch can. I prefer to do as little mods as possible to my cars, so I decided to leave it as is. I know people who have put close to 100k miles on theirs without a catch can without issues.
@Carguy1999Reviews I'll still run to 300K if you take care of it. Why complicated things? Plus, it gives Dodge one reason that they don't need to deny a warranty claim in the UNLIKELY event that something does happen. They'll use the catch can as the sacrificial lamb. Nope, engines have run a long time in the past without them. The big hipo engine builders like Banks and others don't use them, so hmmmm probably not needed.
Hey pal what is your mpg on a 75mph consistent hwy run? Still debating on 5.7 vs 6.4l I drive 90% highway daily
Only major highway trip I undertook in my manual Scat was from Jax, FL to SC, which at about 75mph, I'd manage around 18-19mpg. Now keep in mind, 6.4L will require 93 Octane ONLY, if I'm not mistaken, 5.7s still take regular. Although, in my case, had I settled with the 5.7, I would've eventually ended up in the 6.4, it's a curse lmao. Even now I find myself glancing at listings for manual Hellcats 🤣
@@Nickowar Im kind of in an odd situation. I have a 09 300c heritage edition 5.7 hemi that has almost 200k on it (i drove 100k of it). So I ordered a 2023 brz that I only deposited a refundable 500$ if I dont like it or buying a 5year old or newer challenger 6mt. I live an hour from the blue ridgeparkway and mostly road motorcycles my whole life. So Im fighting with the adult and kid in me. Ive done all the work on my 300c mechanically and they are easy to work on. The subaru makes me question my choice. Why would I buy a car that shines on 1% of my driving vs a challenger that is comfortable for the 99% of my driving?
I had a Mustang 16 Mustang GT with the Performance Pack (5.2 Intake manifold) The thing about the Challenger I would have to get used to is that red line at 6'000 RPM, In the Coyotes you're just getting started at 6.
That is for sure one downfall of the 392. I have run into redline many times. All the torque is down low, so it really doesnt rev high. If the mustang had more space, I would have bought one for sure, probably in the form of the gt350
@@Carguy1999Reviews Not really a downfall, imo.. More akin to what this car is.. a muscle car.. not a high-revving 'sports car' which is what the Mustang and Camaro are classified as now, imo.. This is the last 'true' muscle car.. But with the double-wishbone all around, it acquits itself surprisingly well, handling wise, for something weighing 4200lbs..
Yes, but the Challenger has that low end, drivable, TIRE SHREDDING TORQUE that makes the car "feel" good, even if you don't smoke the tires (which is easy to do BTW). The manual 392 has 3 more HP but, more importantly, 10 lb-ft more of TORQUE over the auto trans. This is because it is not as wide as the auto (but is longer). Therefore, Dodge can run a larger, more free-flowing exhaust. So, HP wins table discussions, but torque wins real races and gives you the drivability feel that you want.
Yeah, but Ford has more recalls than ANY manufacturer in history, so the Challenger is a better choice - plus it's mote comfortable and practical and-with the 392-just as fast as the 5.0, if not a little quicker on the street, where it's not perfect. Plus, more torque (485 lb-ft along with 488 HP in the manual Challenger; auto is 485HP/475TQ. This is because the manual has a narrower, but longer, gearbox thar allows for large exhaust to be installed) just FEELS good, whether or not you use it in a hooligan, tire shredding way! Another benefit is fuel economy. With more torque, you have to depress the GO PEDAL less to move the car.
The only mod I suggest is a Barton shifter. It's well worth it and I believe he has 15% off right now. Also, don't forget skip shift eliminator and I also highly recommend the clutch delay valve removal..., another simple job that greatly increases clutch performance.
Thanks for the advice! I don't know if this car has the skip shift feature, because I have never encountered it forcing me into 4th instead of 2nd. I really want to do the clutch delay valve delete though. The clutch feel is really one of my main complaints with this car. It is a really easy job to do as well, I just need to find a place to do it, ideally with a lift to make it even easier.
Did you Least or Finance?
Bro could you do me or some of us a favor and show me how to downshift in this specific car please 🙏
Heel/toe is practically impossible without adding aftermarket pedals.
Get some cuties and take them for a ride!
The tough part is finding the cuties, I tend to struggle in that area😂😂😂
@@Carguy1999Reviews I think Pete just became offended that you implied he isn't cute 😜
@@StalePhish that is the first comment that I have actually laughed out loud at. Well done, Chris😂
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@@Carguy1999Reviews you and me both bro
I thought the t/a package came with hood pins?
Hood pins were an optional extra. I think they are like $200?
Does the challanger seat 3 in the back?
I have never tried it, and I do not think it has a middle seat belt, but in a pinch, I think it could work
I’m tryna decide between a Scat Pack Shaker or a Yamaha R1M.... I seriously don’t know what to do
Austin Timmons don’t be silly. Scat pack.
Ya but R1M speed
Has anyone raced this and a daytona 392?
T/A and scatpack nameplates don't co-exist. It's just simple T/A 392
I thought so. I have theT/A 392, so I was very confused.
The T/A 392 is a $3400 option package you add onto a Scat Pack, much like the widebody package. If it was its own separate model, that would not be the case. Therefore, it is a Scat Pack at heart, just with the T/A package
So your saying since I own a 2018 R/T Scatpack that I should be calling it just an R/T? I don’t think so! lol
Your absolutely right Carguy!
That’s not a scat pack my dude
You gotta get a mid muffler delete or straight pipe and that’s it bro. Shit will be screaming
Canadian built...(yay)...I just love these cars, the clutch to me is perfect, it's heavier but the throw is so short, and it starts grabbing pretty much as you start letting off, ...as for the dust try some AytoGlym Wheel Protector If you can find it, it's here in Canada. I the Camaro is nice but the sight sucks...great to drive though, Mustang for me ergonomically sucks as I have to sit "side saddle". I miss my 2012 SRT...but as soon as this Covid 19 thing is over and i'm back to work.. the hunt for a "unicorn" will begin again..a nice SRT 392...white.. Sepia Laguna leather.. 6spd. BY the way are you experiencing lock out from 1st to 2nd under higher RPM's if you try and shift fast? my 2012 had the problem stupid skip shift.
B-MAN what's weird is I have yet to experience skip shift. I have heard rumors about it but t have not had any issues at all. I will look into the wheel protector for sure! The dust is an absolute pain
@@Carguy1999Reviews I wore my dust as a badge of honour, If you want the stopping power that is. As for the skip shift I think it's when your driving more eco friendly, then again it might also be up to the shifters redesign as well, I had a horrible time going from 1st to 2nd when I brought it up to redline on my first real pull...also.. I drove mine in the winter as well without issue lol
B-MAN I drove mine all winter here in the northeast USA on the all season 275s and had no issues. Even drove through 2ft of snow in order to clean out our driveway and she plowed right through it. Really surprised me
Carguy1999 Reviews the 4,200 lbs helps for grip and stability, plus... I’ve started in 4th at times, all that torque. And despite all that I was averaging 7-8 litres per 100kms In 40/60 driving
The Camaro is WAY too hard to see out of.
Are the 6 speed a tremec?
Yes, it is a Tremec unit
How much did you get off MSRP if you don't mind me asking? I'm looking for a Scatpack Widebody in manual to get soon
I was able to get the car at dealer invoice price, so right about 3000 under sticker price. I don't know where you are based or if you are willing to travel to buy the car, but Virginia dodge dealers have some screaming deals on Scat Packs with up to around 10k under sticker
@@Carguy1999Reviews yea I've seen those vehicles on car gurus, unfortunately none of them have the plus package (which is a must for me).
Get a wild angle and tell us how the stick is
Do you still have the T/A challenger ?
Yup! New video with it coming soon!
Any difference between your T/A and a 392 scat pack ? As far as I can tell it's graphics pretty much isn't it ? I love the color combination of the green with black graphics. Do they still make the T/A that you know of ? I'll be looking to buy a challenger 6.4 litre in the next 3 weeks or so . Who doesn't love the power and sound of a hemi 😉 any advice when buying one of these cars or things to look for , problems that they might have ? Keep up the good work!!
The T/A is a package on top of the Scat Pack. The big additions are the graphics, a factory cold air intake, and Bilstein shocks on all four corners. The package is a little over $3k. You can get the Scat Pack with electronic Dampening suspension, but not the T/A. Are you looking new or used? In new cars, really the only thing to worry about is pricing. For used cars, make sure that there is no rod knock or any major signs of modification in the past. The 6.4L is pretty close to its limits as it is, and putting any more power-adding modifications without building up the motor is asking for trouble. Don't worry about damage to the front splitter, as the part is like $50 from Dodge. Another factor to look at, in both new and used, is the tires. Make sure they had good tread life left and no signs of burnouts. New cars shouldn't be a worry, but I have heard some stories of dealers joyriding cars and doing burnouts. Overall, they are pretty bulletproof. I have almost 24k miles on mine with no real major issues to speak of. If you want, DM me on Instagram @ Carguy1999_Reviews and I can help you through the process and answer any questions you may have. I work at a dealership too, so i can provide some details about the process if you want.
What part of new Hampshire you from??
Southern New Hampshire, like Bedford/Litchfield/Manchester area. Cant get any more specific than that while feeling comfortable lol
@@Carguy1999Reviews I'm from Littleton man, love the car, love to see you smoke my bros 2015 gt mustang he just got give him a mopar beat down !!!
@@brokejokeratv5851 nice! Wouldn't be the first time I beat a Mustang. Message me on Instagram @Carguy1999_Reviews and we can set it up😉
I have a 2016 SRT392 Challenger manual does your car usually force you to go in 4th gear
It has never done that to me. I have heard rumors, but I have never experienced it myself
What kind of mpg you get because I can burn a tank in a weekend 😅
@@srttman9180 I get about 25mpg on the highway, and 12mpg in the city
Lol yep I get about that but I cannot stop driving like a idiot
@@srttman9180 same here lol, its just such a great car
4,3 0 to 60 fam
A borla atak exhaust would really open her up
The GT and Camaro were also lacking excess weight! Ended up with a Camaro SS. Have taken a passenger in the Camaro and fine for short trips. The Challenger T/A and Scat Pack were good test drives but they just felt too bulky/heavy to be much fun. Didn't feel like the car liked to be hustled. The Camaro SS though? Hell yes, way more sporty and nimble and beastly fast.
I have a rt scat pack but it’s Automatic
gross
LEMME DRIVE DA BOAT!
The stripes on the side are awful. I took mine off the same week i got it lol. Now its perfect.
Not sure about practical...lol We don't drive muscle cars for economy. 392 is smiles per mile man... Great street performer that you can also race at the dragstrip with. It's an 11 second car all day with a drag pak.
I know you're a lefty :)
"This is so different from the Focus ST"...
Well no shit...
This is a MAN"S car. You drive it like it's an automatic. Young boys should drive Hondas.
James Wagner and how exactly do you “drive a car like an automatic”?
You need to learn how to drive stick lmao
What am I doing wrong?
I think you switch the gears too late or at too high rpm. Isn't it normally around 2-3000 rpm?
yea it aint yours, give daddy his car back
Nope, definitely mine. My dad has only driven it once, and has not paid a cent of this car, and same with my mother. I am working 40 hours a week while in school and being smart about money in order to afford it. It is definitely at the top of my budget, but my name, and only my name, is on the title and registration of the car, and I am the only one making payments