Bit of advice I would give anyone going for there first time to patts is never tel any girl its your first time - always say its your third or fourth or something as then they will think that you are more aware of the storys 😂 - another thing dont be afraid to use the word NO , going to a bar and before you no it there is 4 girls around you and when you go to leave you may get a shock when you check your bin as drinks can rack up the bill quickly and another thing is check your bin each time after you order a drink so there is no mistakes when you go to leave 😎
Solid advice. Guys who have never been here might get a bit jaded hearing all the things to watch out for... but as Trevor mentioned, knowing all this in advance can save you grief. Some have the time of their life in Pattaya. Many of us spend hundreds of thousands of Thai Baht learning these lessons first hand and "the hard way". lol
Takes a lot of courage to give that advice especially when you live and work there , but fare play to you Trev it’s valuable advice and all you are doing is bringing us down to earth and helping with the reality of visiting a place like Pattaya and all the complexity on making them decisions if you take the next step ? Looking great mate keep up the good work ❤️
Great video Trev, it’s always good to learn by experience-usually pretty harmless-and the only thing hurt is the ego. But remember-the first time is a mistake-every time after that is a decision.
As always, thank you for the great information. I am wondering which of the gogo bars in Pattaya have rooms on site for boom boom? Places where you don’t have to leave with the girl?? Thanks.
Thanks for sharing these basic advise The one advise is don't be a sucker to a drink queen, As I was a sucker to this on my first trip in pattaya in trying to win her over. Just get straight to the point in asking her if she wants short or long time, Because as soon as you stop buying her drinks, she will move on to the next customer if she is not interested At the end of the day your on holiday, it's just busniess with them
Hi Trev nice chat.I have been going to Pattaya now for over 20 years and i honestly expect to be played the girls are there to make money they make you feel very good no matter how old you are and you will not get that anywhere else.Does not bother me it is the price you pay for the great service you get .Cheers mate.
Trev, you forgot to mention a point about the bar fine scenario- the best thing to do with any lady in the bar who takes your fancy, is to buy them one drink and then ask if she is willing to be bar fined because I believe a lot of girls will take five or six drinks from you and then decline to be bar fined. You have wasted a lot of money for no result at the end 🙏😊🇬🇧
Many of the young girls don't bar fine in udon thani but they will lead you on for drinks, I know I felang who liked a girl about 19 she worked there 4 months never bar fined only took drinks, this guy bought her 10 lady drinks and bar fined her within 15 minutes she was back in the bar she said he wanted sex so I left I never saw that guy in the bar again and still she hasn't gone with a customer
It is "cruel" to discover that you have been exposed to most of these tricks and believed in them. On the good side it has not cost me more than 1000 but, all together, in many years. Good job, as always! Simple stuff but relevant and important. Next time, I'll go along with that and laugh inside my head. One thing I've learned is to say NO when I don't feel for it. And that was not easy.
@@bsbobber It's Disney world for adults. But it was better before the advent of smart phones and Facebook the girls were far more sincere 12+ years ago. The girls in The Philippines are still of that mindset, but Pattaya's far more entertaining than The Philippines
@@Buzzinpattaya I pass no judgement on these girls and wish them the best but sex workers aren’t really my speed. I do, however, love Thailand and would be happy to live there. Do you find it common for foreign men to be able to develop organic, true relationships with Thai women? Or will it usually be a scam for the local women to treat the farang as walking ATMs and then bolt when it’s no longer convenient or the easy money dries up?
Also never take any of it personally guys. You may think she has a sponsor, she has a boyfriend, shes still on the bar ect ect. She never liked me. The truth is she may like you but she likes the sponsor the boyfriend the job ect. She wants it all. Its actually not an attack on you. Your a part of the plan but not the whole plan. Trev is spot on great vid.
A girl’s priority is to provide for her kids and parents back home in the village which most blokes would understand. These tricks are as old as days and have been handed down by generations of girls in bars. It is what it is and this video is an excellent educational video. Lots of blokes play the game so the girls play it back - just like Trev said. Ultimately most bar girl stories don’t end in happy ever after- just a fact of life and this “game”. But some stories do end well - I know!
Very Good Trev, this kind of information gives an outstanding gateway to the First-Timer to Really enjoy his visit. My response to some of the Topics you presented has been........"Cut The B. S.!!! WHAT DO YOU NEED?.. WHY DO YOU NEED It? TELL ME AND LET ME SEE IF I AM ABLE TO HELP YOU!! AND IF I CAN ... I WILL!! DONT PLAY ME!!!!!!!!
I've never trusted any of them, i met a woman there 5 years ago, she's never asked me for a penny, i still go and see her every time i go back. So not all of them are bad.
If you pay a bar fine and a girl tries to ditch you, just tell her you are going to take her back to the bar and get your fine back. Watch how fast her headache clears up because the bars do not like to have unhappy customers coming back to complain. The last thing those girls want is do get in trouble with the bar because they could get fired or blacklisted. Then they are stuck with freelancing work which can be a lot more challenging for some of them.
Trevor, thank you for spitting knowledge. I will be in town for the 1st time next week. And thanks to you and Mr. Turner, I'm confident that I will be making the most of my time in Pattaya. Again,, thank you
me next week 10th time 💪💪 seen and heard it all made mistakes brought one to Europe for 3 months now it will be pure fun can’t wait for the games to start
You forgot the gold one where she called you crying that she needed the money and pawned it. Then she's so upset because after all she loves you. Then she asks for more money, not to lose that special item.
Great advice Trev. Been a few instances where some good-looking sort has told me that she doesn't have a BF but I was sitting out the front of the bar when she got dropped off by some guy on a motorbike & you know it's not a relative as he drops her off 2 or 3 bars away from her bar. Cheers
fellas just remember something that was told to me by a leading barlady who was the No1 in her bar, "business is business' "you put your money down and we put our panties down simply it's not the big love affair. i've been going to either LOS or PI since 1980 and i've NEVER had a runner or a starfish. SHIT fellas they are working girls,going with blokes is their living. DON'T ASK STUPID QUESTIONS RE HOW LONG HAS SHE WORKED IN THE BAR,BEDDING CUSTOMERS IS WHAT SHE IS REQUIRED/PAID TO DO. there is safety in taking a barlady far above picking up a freelancer,bars [mostly] offer some form of protection,and safe sex should always be the ONLY way to go. another thing to remember negotiate before you pay BF,re-what you require back at the hotel THESE LADIES ARE REAL PEOPLE TREAT THEM WITH RESPECT AND YOU WILL HAVE THE BEST TIME OF YOUR LIFE. thats me rant for the year LOL
@@RayJarvis-zh7be Another way I've looked upon it is, these girls don't make love, they make money. When it comes down to its essence it's merely a business transaction. They're putas and we're punters. Fairly cut and dried.
My foolish friend believed a bargirl that said that she leaves the bar with men but does not hookup with them, even though they hooked up the second day he knew her. He married this girl, the first one he met in Pattaya, and is purchasing all kinds of goodies for the family in the village. 😅
@@ua1514 while it is a common story, it’s quite a sight to see in person. He married this woman after knowing her for only a month by the way, I suspect that she hit him with the pregnancy scam.
I would suggest to the new traveler to 1) Find someone you want to be with. Have a few drinks and take her upstairs, or back to your condo and have fun and then say thanks and goodbye. Works every time. I`m very friendly and kind, but I`m not there for conversation about her chickens, family or where she is from. This is a business transaction so, let's get it on!
Guys - listen to this stuff! These wonderful, beautiful, funny, tactile girls are engaged in a ‘battle of survival’. They do not benefit from many of the privileges that we in the west take for granted. If you retire and decide to live over there - then sure, it’s possible to find a long term partner / wife and be very happy. If you are just on holiday - then believe every single thing that Trev is saying, enjoy yourself, have a blast with the girls and in general, stick to the ‘one day rule’ and memories will be made for life!! 30 years of holidays there and I still effervesce with excitement and joy at the thought of returning. Equally, I could tell many many sad stories of ‘broken’ men whom despite being intelligent and in general sensible - fell foul to the enticements of the ‘Thai temptress’ - and lost everything. Be kind, be happy but guys - BE REAL !!
Good video Trev but just so you know No. 7 dose go on in the Buzzin Lounge, I don't have a problem I can say no . I was there in Augusta for a week ( were not there at the time but it happened every day
I can only say I act on what I hear and what I see, people don't tell me there's not much I can do.... If it happened why not say anything why not help me stop what you say happened? You say on here it happens yet say nothing at the time, cheers for that!
I recently had a former Buzzin girl contact me on Line(won't give her name) and didn't know that she had stopped working there. She chatted me up about how I was such a nice guy and hoped she would see me when I come back this winter. The next day she messaged me some story about a break in at her apartment and all her jewelry was stolen. Right then I removed her from Line, true or not, guys don't be stupid. While you're there or half way around the world, what happens in Pattaya stays in Pattaya. Don't get involved with their drama.
@@Buzzinpattaya Don't worry about it Trev, I know it's all on them and not on you. I'll see you guys in January along with Crash, Paul & Darren. A lot of us have kept in touch since last year.
If I start a relationship with a girl I always tell them upfront that it’s very easy for me to say “no” if they ask for money, but they always still ask and make up some sort of financial emergency. It usually ends with me getting fed up telling them no and breaking off all communication. With a lot of the girls it’s not just about the money but they think when you spend money on them that it shows you care. Many will see it as a challenge though 😂.
Thank you, these are amazing advices. If only i came across this earlier but i was already being tricked with all the things you mentioned in my previous 2 trips in the last 6 months :'(
You’re right - it’s all a game. It can be a pleasant game, but at the end of the day, it is what it is. I don’t take it personally for the most part, as it’s just business. I don’t even get too mad about the “buy drink for my friend” game. I just smile and politely decline. If I were in their shoes, I’d probably do the same, if we’re being honest. It _does_ bother me when some poor guy falls for a bargirl and she's the type to wring him dry financially and emotionally. But, that's part of it. All you can do is do your best to make sure it doesn't happen to you.
I am glad that you did present information Buzz! You are gentleman. I hope you can arrive back to England and recovery back. You look little sad buddy.
all advice is a good thing thanks - my first time crikey it hits you like a train especially walking down Soi 6 - I went pretty much everywhere and had the time of my life - so happens I do not drink much and seem to be in control - pick a girl that is into you and good banter you will have much more fun - all where good experiences for me Soapy - Bar Girl - Agogo - Freelancer and Normal girl like GFE - do not take things too seriously in Paradise 555
I have been to Thailand 20 times & I still need to stop & take a few deep breaths before heading down the 6 or "Belly of the Beast" as I call it. Cheers
I have heard each and every one of these stories from exotic dancers here in the U.S.. Its amazing how girls in this industry use the same tactics no matter where in the world you are. Thanks for the great content.
Great advice especially if you’ve never been to Pattaya before, been twice before got caught out once went back to the girls bar at the end of the night she rang the bell and i had to buy drinks for all her friends in the bar, shot herself in the foot though i got rid the following day. don’t be put off though there are plenty of genuine ladies but it can be a mine field finding one 😂 See you mid November 🎉🎉🎉
I know there's lies & exaggeration Trev but it's difficult. They have no social security system & they do it coz the have to. I loved being a father & brought my daughter up by myself & made sure she experience everything I could afford & grown up to be a confident young lady. I've been seeing a girl in Pattaya for 3 years, don't sponsor her but when I'm there I invited her two daughters from Esan & put them up I nice hotels & take them to the water parks, shopping, nice food and other attractions and I enjoy seeing them enjoy themselves as they don't have much. Some people may call me a mug but I prefer this to going to the bars ever night .. so people come to Pattaya for different reasons.
Never been to Pattaya, but I've been involved in this industry in my own country. Believe me, working girls are the same all over the world and do the same kind of tricks.
I went to a bar in Mexico with some people I met. We were drinking and dancing all night long. At the end of the night all the people took off. A minute later I got the bill for drinks people were drinking all night. The drinks were on me all night and I didn’t know it until the end of the night.
Even agreeing to meet a girl in a bar/resteraunt for a drink and natter. Ive gone early, drank a beer and left. Popped off to the bar across the road and waited. Low and behold she pitches up with friends and thats me away out on my own. The other one is she does come alone and texts me. Im on my way, ended up having a beer, 2 minutes. Its not over, soon shes on the phone texting friends who miraculously just walk past and she shouts hello come and drink beer. Beers whisky and the menu load the table. Thats my signal to go to the toilet and slip away into the night. Done it many a time. Its a pure cheek entertaining their friends spending someone elses money.
There is , these days a lot more to Pattaya. If you come here for the girls, your holiday could be a drama from start to finish. Will be there on Friday with my Filipino wife
Why would you go to Pattaya with your wife for vacation? Not dissing you just asking since there's so many good places in Thailand to go to. With that said, the second date I had with my girlfriend she wanted to go to soi cowboy in Bangkok. I enjoyed the look on her face as we walked down.... It was my first time there as well but I knew what to expect. My girlfriend is a traditional isan lady, a school teacher. But traditional or not. I know that she could see the money making opportunities there. I told her sure you can make money here but do you really want to sleep with that fat guy over there, pointing... Or that old ugly dude there with no teeth and splotchy skin? Yeah I didn't think so.... The girls earn their money for a reason. To service guys. If they can get more for less work then they will try.
Will be in Pattaya second week of August so made sure to book a hotel within 5 minutes walking if the buzzin lounge. And yes I did pay for longtime only for her to say she needed to visit her mom in the hospital. I knew it was a lie but also it was useless to complain.
Video idea: Ok, so now we know they will pull a trick or two, maybe you can tell us how to say no to helping the buffalo out of the well or the sick mum or poor younger sister who's school fees are due? And what about when she shows up at the restaurant with a friend or a "brother"? What happens when you say no? How to go about it? And how to deal with the cold shoulder treatment, crying or screaming fit or whatever else the consequences are of saying no? One more thing, Ive been told that if they suddenly pull the "I don't feel well, I want to go home" trick, you should say "Ok, let's go back to the bar and tell mamasan you are sick and I'll get the barfine back!" Rumour has it her attitude will change right quick.
In "high season" it's usually not a problem, but in "low season" I always have a rule. 1 beer - 1 ladydrink. They can choose freely who gets it. If not you will soon find yourself in a situation where every beer cost you 700 Baht. If they say they only worked there a week, I usually say that the honest ones usually worked there 5 years. If they walk good in high heels, beat the crap out of you in pool and always seem to be immune to alcohol, they've most likely worked there for 10 years. It's funny to hear their explanaitions when you call them on their lies 😂😅
I have had all these stunts played on me for the 30 years I have been coming to Thailand, I even met the sick buffalo in Khon Kean! However, I only let them get away with it when I knew I would not cry when parting with the money ie I could afford it. Reason is that these girls have a very short working life. When they are over 35 finding work gets difficult for them. Very few manage to get decent jobs afterwards. I agree with everything Trevor says, and I just wanted to add this as something useful?!
1:08 - Last year was at Soi Cowboy and was sitting at a Go Go bar until a girl who spoke very good English came up to me and just talked normally, weren't trying to get me to buy her drinks or anything and told me how the bar system there works. Didn't find her that attractive, little short chubby girl who said she's been working there a few years, but she had a fun personality so I was like ok, I'll get another drink for myself eventually. She went back to dance on stage and then out of nowhere I saw on stage this very attractive cute looking girl with perfect long legs even-though she was short. I saw the number she had on and told the girl who was speaking English to me, can you bring the girl who was o just on stage, number .." Couldn't remember 30-something".. She ran to the back room or onto the other level and pulled her out and told her in Thai to go sit with me, that I liked her. She sat down with me very pretty, .. Couldn't speak hardly any English.. Appeared shy.. Then the waitress came and demanded I buy her a drink. So I bought it .. Trying to communicate with her and all I got across she worked there withe 2 days or 2 weeks. So she sat with me, gave me a short lap dance... I guess I didn't offer to pay a bar fine and she went back on stage to dance. Walked around to different bars for a few hours and before I went back to my hotel I stopped to that first spot and saw that pretty one again and she waved hi to me. Now I wasn't looking to take any girl home and wasn't trying to paying a bar fine.. Then I realized after the bar closes.. I could have just waited for her to come out and see if she wanted to hang out / eat etc. Based on Buzzin, if the girl is shy and barely speaks English, she might have less miles on her? 🤔
Women in bars that use the " It's only my 2nd day " line, might well be telling the truth - well some truths, but not all. You see these bar girls will typically get a 1 week, 10 day or 2 week contract, which will get renewed if the bar owner and the girl is happy with the arrangement. However, a girl can easily jump ship every few weeks and the " It's only my 2nd day " is technically true, but they forget to tell you that they've worked in 50 bars.
Don't go looking for a wife. Go to have fun. Leave Thailand in Thailand. When they start asking for money, just say you don't have it or you're saving to return. Eventually they'll stop asking. Treat them with respect, don't be tight with money, and they'll make sure you have a good time. If you are extra generous with your money (like myself), just say you spent it all during your trip, when they ask you after you went home.
I love the long time service, but on my second trip 2 of the girls faked health issues and left in the middle of the night, so they could earn some more money doing short time i imagine. They didnt do that on my first trip. I love waking up with the girls to a morning quicky.
@@Buzzinpattaya I did manage to find a nice Soi 6 girl who looked after me well, but I was a bit shocked. The ones that did it were from the more upmarket go go bars. Is that a common scam for long time?
You arrange a LT (all night), get back to room, shower, take care of business....and the girl suddenly gets a phone call from her roommate who has locked herself out of the room. Your "date" now wants to go to help her friend and, of course, wants LT money when she was only there briefly.
Dead easy answer. Give her the choice of: Stay, as agreed, and get full money. Or... Leave now, I'll give you 1000thb... or whatever lower amount you consider appropriate for early exit
The best advice is to understand that it is ok to say no. Say no politely and with a smile. Just understand it is all a game from the girls side and from our side. No drama is necessary. Plenty of beautiful and avaialable girls arround.
When a girl pulls the "oh i feel sick" line or the "i have headache" line and they get away with it, it encourages them and others to pull these "tricks" on other foreigners.
Do all of the bar girls make things this difficult? I'm trying to go in January for obvious single guy reasons. Is every bar girl going to try to scam me?
The thing bro is when you get there you need to "be" the man and just be confident wherever you go and sometimes you gotta be a hard ass and NO and keep walking.
You won't be scammed if you know what bullshit they try to give you. Always remember ultimately these girls are sex workers. Thailand will blow your mind you need to be careful and don't be affraid to say no. Don't give the girls your phone number because they won't leave you alone and don't tell them it's your first visit
All of the above comments to yours are true. My advice would be to take only the amount of money that you intend to spend that night leave your ATM card at hotel including your passport. Pay your bar Bill, as it comes. Do not be afraid to say no. If you feel pressure, get up to leave. Don't go shooting way above your pay grade. If you're an average looking guy, you don't go for the best looking girl in the bar. The older less prettier girls will be less expensive in the long run. If you're going to be there for a little while, maybe find somebody ahead of time and book them for the time there. You can find somebody on Thai friendly or other dating apps and agree on a price ahead of time. Just make sure you FaceTime or video time with them first to be sure that they're not catfishing you with unrealistic photos. You'll have a great time in Thailand if you follow a few simple rules. And no matter what never get mad. Never get upset and never raise your voice. And never never get drunk. If you want to get drunk, do it in the hotel. Enjoy your visit.
More advice is don't think they will be immediate 'tricks' often it maybe a long game esp. If a sponsor is end end result - u will be convinced shes your gf but as soon as you leave it game on - keep an eye out for multiple phones and also the different apps for messaging she uses - its not a bad thing its just what it is and you got to accept shes a bar girl working to make money - if u cant deal with that u will get burnt. You need to be 'less kind' if its ANYTHING about money. Another warning if u do get 'claimed' a jealous thai lady can be an absolute crazy nightmare. Good advice as there is ALWAYS a bf or sponsor... And remember the long game eg. She may go with u as gd to Phi Phi island for 2 weeks but u WILL go home .... Just becareful as it ISN'T your western big city or lady and u will relax and have fun - thays the aim
The thing to remember is that they are working girls. They'll do anything to part you from your cash. Just imagine if a girl at home gave you the same story and was looking for cash . It's unlikely you'd believe her. The same with the phone scam , why is she waiting on you to buy her a phone? So, the thing to do is think. If I was at home would I buy an iPhone for a girl I know for 2 days?
Good warnings to the tourist who visited Pattaya Pattaya is a learning experience I seen many people get scam of there life savings losing everything. Life is a education
Bit of advice I would give anyone going for there first time to patts is never tel any girl its your first time - always say its your third or fourth or something as then they will think that you are more aware of the storys 😂 - another thing dont be afraid to use the word NO , going to a bar and before you no it there is 4 girls around you and when you go to leave you may get a shock when you check your bin as drinks can rack up the bill quickly and another thing is check your bin each time after you order a drink so there is no mistakes when you go to leave 😎
good shout mate
Yes and they can suss out in less than a minute if your a new fish or not.
Haha, I like to say it's my first day and first trip in Thailand every time. The newbie treatment is the best.
@@WW-to5rc l tell the woman l shy
@@WW-to5rc lol same me mate. I have been 10 times, but they treat a newbie better, because they think they can con you 😆
Solid advice. Guys who have never been here might get a bit jaded hearing all the things to watch out for... but as Trevor mentioned, knowing all this in advance can save you grief. Some have the time of their life in Pattaya. Many of us spend hundreds of thousands of Thai Baht learning these lessons first hand and "the hard way". lol
lol, so true mate, cheers
Yes have to be aware But I had nothing but a good time there - although I did meet a GF by accident 555
Takes a lot of courage to give that advice especially when you live and work there , but fare play to you Trev it’s valuable advice and all you are doing is bringing us down to earth and helping with the reality of visiting a place like Pattaya and all the complexity on making them decisions if you take the next step ? Looking great mate keep up the good work ❤️
All good mate no worries
sooo close to the 100K viewers now. well deserved recognition for a wonderful achievement when you arrive.
Thank you so much
Girl- my buffalo has died.
Me- good. You don’t need money to feed it. 😂
Hahahaha love that
@@davidbrook7503 another response could be; no more vet bill's.
@@davidbrook7503 that's why he is always sick
Barfined a girl 15 years ago she never left so married her 😅😅😅😅😅😅 still married ❤
haha good man
Why not
@DrewThai maybe you're one of the lucky ones
@patrickhaberly8228 Yes we both are 😀
nice one mate hit the Jack Pot 😀
Great video Trev, it’s always good to learn by experience-usually pretty harmless-and the only thing hurt is the ego.
But remember-the first time is a mistake-every time after that is a decision.
Absolutely
This is great advice im going in two months and i really appreciate all your videos !you have helped alot !
Have fun!
As always, thank you for the great information. I am wondering which of the gogo bars in Pattaya have rooms on site for boom boom? Places where you don’t have to leave with the girl?? Thanks.
discord.com/invite/zd22xQXe your questions can be answered there mate
Thanks for sharing these basic advise
The one advise is don't be a sucker to a drink queen, As I was a sucker to this on my first trip in pattaya in trying to win her over.
Just get straight to the point in asking her if she wants short or long time, Because as soon as you stop buying her drinks, she will move on to the next customer if she is not interested
At the end of the day your on holiday, it's just busniess with them
Cheers mate thank you
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Thank you so much 😀
Hi Trev nice chat.I have been going to Pattaya now for over 20 years and i honestly expect to be played the girls are there to make money they make you feel very good no matter how old you are and you will not get that anywhere else.Does not bother me it is the price you pay for the great service you get .Cheers mate.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us mate much appreciated
Trev, you forgot to mention a point about the bar fine scenario- the best thing to do with any lady in the bar who takes your fancy, is to buy them one drink and then ask if she is willing to be bar fined because I believe a lot of girls will take five or six drinks from you and then decline to be bar fined.
You have wasted a lot of money for no result at the end 🙏😊🇬🇧
100%
Thank you
they mostly drop a hint after the second - I want to get out the bar whatever if they like you
There’s a lot of Drink Queens now
Many of the young girls don't bar fine in udon thani but they will lead you on for drinks, I know I felang who liked a girl about 19 she worked there 4 months never bar fined only took drinks, this guy bought her 10 lady drinks and bar fined her within 15 minutes she was back in the bar she said he wanted sex so I left I never saw that guy in the bar again and still she hasn't gone with a customer
Very comprehensive video, keep up the good work!!
Thank you very much!
It is "cruel" to discover that you have been exposed to most of these tricks and believed in them. On the good side it has not cost me more than 1000 but, all together, in many years.
Good job, as always! Simple stuff but relevant and important.
Next time, I'll go along with that and laugh inside my head.
One thing I've learned is to say NO when I don't feel for it. And that was not easy.
It happens mate
Great video Trevor. Kudos for responding to virtually every comment whether good or bad lol
Try my best mate
Keep this going on brother ...... saves us wish this wisdom & experience :)
cheers mate
after my first trip i believe im addicted to pattaya now . motivation to work a bit of overtime . worth the 20 hour flight for sure
Have fun
same here - yes it does Motivate one - and builds on Confidence - I have to go twice per year now once is too long - one day much much longer
@@bsbobber It's Disney world for adults. But it was better before the advent of smart phones and Facebook the girls were far more sincere 12+ years ago. The girls in The Philippines are still of that mindset, but Pattaya's far more entertaining than The Philippines
same here, im hellbent on success so i can go back
great of you to keep educating the newbies...
try my best mate
Great video mate 👍awesome to see how this channel has progressed over the last few years legend 👊
Much appreciated mate
@@Buzzinpattaya I pass no judgement on these girls and wish them the best but sex workers aren’t really my speed. I do, however, love Thailand and would be happy to live there. Do you find it common for foreign men to be able to develop organic, true relationships with Thai women? Or will it usually be a scam for the local women to treat the farang as walking ATMs and then bolt when it’s no longer convenient or the easy money dries up?
This post should be played before every airline safety video on all flights to Thailand 555+
Thanks mate
Exact same tricks were going on 44 years ago,when I first came to Thailand. I'm sure many moons before that. Good tips Trev.
44 years ago WOW!
Gotcha mate
Also never take any of it personally guys. You may think she has a sponsor, she has a boyfriend, shes still on the bar ect ect. She never liked me. The truth is she may like you but she likes the sponsor the boyfriend the job ect. She wants it all. Its actually not an attack on you. Your a part of the plan but not the whole plan. Trev is spot on great vid.
Gotcha mate well said
A girl’s priority is to provide for her kids and parents back home in the village which most blokes would understand. These tricks are as old as days and have been handed down by generations of girls in bars. It is what it is and this video is an excellent educational video.
Lots of blokes play the game so the girls play it back - just like Trev said.
Ultimately most bar girl stories don’t end in happy ever after- just a fact of life and this “game”. But some stories do end well - I know!
Fantastic advise and so very accurate. Ill definitely pop in to the buzz inn bar simply to say thanks
thank you
Great vid for rookies.
Cheers mate
Very Good Trev, this kind of information gives an outstanding gateway to the First-Timer to Really enjoy his visit. My response to some of the Topics you presented has been........"Cut The B. S.!!! WHAT DO YOU NEED?.. WHY DO YOU NEED It? TELL ME AND LET ME SEE IF I AM ABLE TO HELP YOU!! AND IF I CAN ... I WILL!! DONT PLAY ME!!!!!!!!
Cheers mate
I've never trusted any of them, i met a woman there 5 years ago, she's never asked me for a penny, i still go and see her every time i go back. So not all of them are bad.
thanks for sharing
Good video mate,very good advise, unfortunately most of us don't get it till they got it😢
Very true
If you pay a bar fine and a girl tries to ditch you, just tell her you are going to take her back to the bar and get your fine back. Watch how fast her headache clears up because the bars do not like to have unhappy customers coming back to complain. The last thing those girls want is do get in trouble with the bar because they could get fired or blacklisted. Then they are stuck with freelancing work which can be a lot more challenging for some of them.
Lol
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Trevor, thank you for spitting knowledge. I will be in town for the 1st time next week. And thanks to you and Mr. Turner, I'm confident that I will be making the most of my time in Pattaya. Again,, thank you
First time in pattaya or thailand?
Have fun!
me next week 10th time 💪💪 seen and heard it all made mistakes brought one to Europe for 3 months now it will be pure fun can’t wait for the games to start
@user-by4ni4sj5g I spent 2 weeks in Phuket back in 09 but this will be my first time in Pattaya
You forgot the gold one where she called you crying that she needed the money and pawned it. Then she's so upset because after all she loves you. Then she asks for more money, not to lose that special item.
Haha good shout
I’ll be out there next weekend and I’ll be sure to stop by and say hello
Look forward to meeting you
Forget the buffalo... I had a girl ask me to buy her a 7-11 store!
555
Haha excellent
is that all 555
You could buy her a 7-11 t shirt
Thanks this is the best advice I’ve heard, please keep posting 😅
Thank you! Will do!
Good video! 🎉🎉🍾🍾🌞🌞
Thank you 🤗
Great advice Trev.
Been a few instances where some good-looking sort has told me that she doesn't have a BF but I was sitting out the front of the bar when she got dropped off by some guy on a motorbike & you know it's not a relative as he drops her off 2 or 3 bars away from her bar.
Cheers
Yeah they will claim all sorts
Just remember its not your girl its just your turn
Indeed
@@kash18141 That's a great blast from the past. I haven't heard that line since early 2010.
@@kash18141 you don't lose a girlfriend
Mostly yes - Candy should be shared 555
Golden rule
I will be in Chiangmai in November for two weeks thanks for the great information very much appreciated
Have a great time
fellas just remember something that was told to me by a leading barlady who was the No1 in her bar,
"business is business' "you put your money down and we put our panties down simply it's not the big love affair.
i've been going to either LOS or PI since 1980 and i've NEVER had a runner or a starfish. SHIT fellas they are working girls,going with blokes is their living.
DON'T ASK STUPID QUESTIONS RE HOW LONG HAS SHE WORKED IN THE BAR,BEDDING CUSTOMERS IS WHAT SHE IS REQUIRED/PAID TO DO.
there is safety in taking a barlady far above picking up a freelancer,bars [mostly] offer some form of protection,and safe sex should always be the ONLY way to go.
another thing to remember negotiate before you pay BF,re-what you require back at the hotel
THESE LADIES ARE REAL PEOPLE TREAT THEM WITH RESPECT AND YOU WILL HAVE THE BEST TIME OF YOUR LIFE.
thats me rant for the year LOL
Well said
@@RayJarvis-zh7be Another way I've looked upon it is, these girls don't make love, they make money. When it comes down to its essence it's merely a business transaction. They're putas and we're punters. Fairly cut and dried.
Thanks man, new subscriber. Only ever been to Latin America so getting as much info as possible before I go there.
Awesome, thank you!
My foolish friend believed a bargirl that said that she leaves the bar with men but does not hookup with them, even though they hooked up the second day he knew her.
He married this girl, the first one he met in Pattaya, and is purchasing all kinds of goodies for the family in the village. 😅
Ouch lol
Common story, surprising as it may seem.
@@ua1514 while it is a common story, it’s quite a sight to see in person. He married this woman after knowing her for only a month by the way, I suspect that she hit him with the pregnancy scam.
Great video injoy watching it.. 😁👍📹
Thank you 👍
I would suggest to the new traveler to 1) Find someone you want to be with. Have a few drinks and take her upstairs, or back to your condo and have fun and then say thanks and goodbye. Works every time. I`m very friendly and kind, but I`m not there for conversation about her chickens, family or where she is from. This is a business transaction so, let's get it on!
Thanks for the tips!
Sound advice Trev, especially for first timers.
cheers mate
Guys - listen to this stuff! These wonderful, beautiful, funny, tactile girls are engaged in a ‘battle of survival’. They do not benefit from many of the privileges that we in the west take for granted. If you retire and decide to live over there - then sure, it’s possible to find a long term partner / wife and be very happy. If you are just on holiday - then believe every single thing that Trev is saying, enjoy yourself, have a blast with the girls and in general, stick to the ‘one day rule’ and memories will be made for life!! 30 years of holidays there and I still effervesce with excitement and joy at the thought of returning. Equally, I could tell many many sad stories of ‘broken’ men whom despite being intelligent and in general sensible - fell foul to the enticements of the ‘Thai temptress’ - and lost everything. Be kind, be happy but guys - BE REAL !!
Well said
you hit it on the nail
Good video Trev but just so you know No. 7 dose go on in the Buzzin Lounge, I don't have a problem I can say no . I was there in Augusta for a week ( were not there at the time but it happened every day
I can only say I act on what I hear and what I see, people don't tell me there's not much I can do.... If it happened why not say anything why not help me stop what you say happened? You say on here it happens yet say nothing at the time, cheers for that!
@@Buzzinpattaya Only saying it because at the time I didn't know you had a rule on it, I will remember it next time, Cheers.
I recently had a former Buzzin girl contact me on Line(won't give her name) and didn't know that she had stopped working there. She chatted me up about how I was such a nice guy and hoped she would see me when I come back this winter. The next day she messaged me some story about a break in at her apartment and all her jewelry was stolen. Right then I removed her from Line, true or not, guys don't be stupid. While you're there or half way around the world, what happens in Pattaya stays in Pattaya. Don't get involved with their drama.
Sorry that happened, sadly when you swap LINE I cannot control what is said or done
@@Buzzinpattaya Don't worry about it Trev, I know it's all on them and not on you. I'll see you guys in January along with Crash, Paul & Darren. A lot of us have kept in touch since last year.
If I start a relationship with a girl I always tell them upfront that it’s very easy for me to say “no” if they ask for money, but they always still ask and make up some sort of financial emergency. It usually ends with me getting fed up telling them no and breaking off all communication. With a lot of the girls it’s not just about the money but they think when you spend money on them that it shows you care. Many will see it as a challenge though 😂.
Thank you, these are amazing advices. If only i came across this earlier but i was already being tricked with all the things you mentioned in my previous 2 trips in the last 6 months :'(
It happens mate sadly hope ya okay
Just a game? They're all on the game🤣🤣
Lol
Hey trev .T.I.T.been 12 years love ❤️ this country & culture.keep it rollin
Will do!!
Came out in February knowing all theses tricks but still managed to fall for one 😂
I happens mate
we all do it
Great one Trev.
Glad you enjoyed it
You’re right - it’s all a game. It can be a pleasant game, but at the end of the day, it is what it is.
I don’t take it personally for the most part, as it’s just business. I don’t even get too mad about the “buy drink for my friend” game. I just smile and politely decline. If I were in their shoes, I’d probably do the same, if we’re being honest.
It _does_ bother me when some poor guy falls for a bargirl and she's the type to wring him dry financially and emotionally. But, that's part of it. All you can do is do your best to make sure it doesn't happen to you.
Absolutely
I am glad that you did present information Buzz! You are gentleman. I hope you can arrive back to England and recovery back. You look little sad buddy.
Cheers mate am all good
all advice is a good thing thanks - my first time crikey it hits you like a train especially walking down Soi 6 - I went pretty much everywhere and had the time of my life - so happens I do not drink much and seem to be in control - pick a girl that is into you and good banter you will have much more fun - all where good experiences for me Soapy - Bar Girl - Agogo - Freelancer and Normal girl like GFE - do not take things too seriously in Paradise 555
Hahaha that's one hello of a train
I have been to Thailand 20 times & I still need to stop & take a few deep breaths before heading down the 6 or "Belly of the Beast" as I call it.
Cheers
@@Buzzinpattaya Choo! Choo!
Yes mate you’re right, it all happens.
Take off the rose tinted glasses and have a good time 🍻⛳️👧🏽👍
Absolutely
Hi all , very good adivce, remember keep it real, have great time, then go back home
Absolutely
I love your channel. You’re great guy ! Keep going 🎉
I appreciate that!
Been reading some of the comments and I can tell the seasoned veterans versus the new pups who are anxious for some Thai kitty 🤣
lol
Very informative thank you
Glad it was helpful!
I have heard each and every one of these stories from exotic dancers here in the U.S.. Its amazing how girls in this industry use the same tactics no matter where in the world you are. Thanks for the great content.
Yeah doesn't surprise me that mate, we just gotta stay ahead of the game 555 have a good day mate
Very good video! Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Great advice especially if you’ve never been to Pattaya before, been twice before got caught out once went back to the girls bar at the end of the night she rang the bell and i had to buy drinks for all her friends in the bar, shot herself in the foot though i got rid the following day. don’t be put off though there are plenty of genuine ladies but it can be a mine field finding one 😂 See you mid November 🎉🎉🎉
cheers
Very good Trev 👍 😊
Cheers mate
I know there's lies & exaggeration Trev but it's difficult. They have no social security system & they do it coz the have to. I loved being a father & brought my daughter up by myself & made sure she experience everything I could afford & grown up to be a confident young lady. I've been seeing a girl in Pattaya for 3 years, don't sponsor her but when I'm there I invited her two daughters from Esan & put them up I nice hotels & take them to the water parks, shopping, nice food and other attractions and I enjoy seeing them enjoy themselves as they don't have much. Some people may call me a mug but I prefer this to going to the bars ever night .. so people come to Pattaya for different reasons.
I get ye mate
Sound advice ...its all a game lol...win some lose some .. Thanks Trev
You bet
Never been to Pattaya, but I've been involved in this industry in my own country. Believe me, working girls are the same all over the world and do the same kind of tricks.
cheers mate
I went to a bar in Mexico with some people I met. We were drinking and dancing all night long. At the end of the night all the people took off. A minute later I got the bill for drinks people were drinking all night. The drinks were on me all night and I didn’t know it until the end of the night.
I would have hit the roof
Even agreeing to meet a girl in a bar/resteraunt for a drink and natter. Ive gone early, drank a beer and left. Popped off to the bar across the road and waited. Low and behold she pitches up with friends and thats me away out on my own.
The other one is she does come alone and texts me. Im on my way, ended up having a beer, 2 minutes. Its not over, soon shes on the phone texting friends who miraculously just walk past and she shouts hello come and drink beer. Beers whisky and the menu load the table.
Thats my signal to go to the toilet and slip away into the night.
Done it many a time. Its a pure cheek entertaining their friends spending someone elses money.
Smart move mate, you got it sussed
you have to watch this in Night clubs and if they hit the shots
There is , these days a lot more to Pattaya. If you come here for the girls, your holiday could be a drama from start to finish. Will be there on Friday with my Filipino wife
Nice one mate
Why would you go to Pattaya with your wife for vacation? Not dissing you just asking since there's so many good places in Thailand to go to.
With that said, the second date I had with my girlfriend she wanted to go to soi cowboy in Bangkok. I enjoyed the look on her face as we walked down.... It was my first time there as well but I knew what to expect. My girlfriend is a traditional isan lady, a school teacher. But traditional or not. I know that she could see the money making opportunities there. I told her sure you can make money here but do you really want to sleep with that fat guy over there, pointing... Or that old ugly dude there with no teeth and splotchy skin? Yeah I didn't think so....
The girls earn their money for a reason. To service guys. If they can get more for less work then they will try.
Will be in Pattaya second week of August so made sure to book a hotel within 5 minutes walking if the buzzin lounge.
And yes I did pay for longtime only for her to say she needed to visit her mom in the hospital. I knew it was a lie but also it was useless to complain.
Nice one mate
Nice info. Thanks
Cheers mate
Video idea: Ok, so now we know they will pull a trick or two, maybe you can tell us how to say no to helping the buffalo out of the well or the sick mum or poor younger sister who's school fees are due? And what about when she shows up at the restaurant with a friend or a "brother"? What happens when you say no? How to go about it? And how to deal with the cold shoulder treatment, crying or screaming fit or whatever else the consequences are of saying no?
One more thing, Ive been told that if they suddenly pull the "I don't feel well, I want to go home" trick, you should say "Ok, let's go back to the bar and tell mamasan you are sick and I'll get the barfine back!" Rumour has it her attitude will change right quick.
Just refuse it's as easy as that
In "high season" it's usually not a problem, but in "low season" I always have a rule. 1 beer - 1 ladydrink. They can choose freely who gets it. If not you will soon find yourself in a situation where every beer cost you 700 Baht.
If they say they only worked there a week, I usually say that the honest ones usually worked there 5 years. If they walk good in high heels, beat the crap out of you in pool and always seem to be immune to alcohol, they've most likely worked there for 10 years. It's funny to hear their explanaitions when you call them on their lies 😂😅
"the chickens have run away"..haha...i never heard that one
Lol
I have had all these stunts played on me for the 30 years I have been coming to Thailand, I even met the sick buffalo in Khon Kean! However, I only let them get away with it when I knew I would not cry when parting with the money ie I could afford it. Reason is that these girls have a very short working life. When they are over 35 finding work gets difficult for them. Very few manage to get decent jobs afterwards. I agree with everything Trevor says, and I just wanted to add this as something useful?!
over 35 is good for us Older dudes
1:08 - Last year was at Soi Cowboy and was sitting at a Go Go bar until a girl who spoke very good English came up to me and just talked normally, weren't trying to get me to buy her drinks or anything and told me how the bar system there works. Didn't find her that attractive, little short chubby girl who said she's been working there a few years, but she had a fun personality so I was like ok, I'll get another drink for myself eventually. She went back to dance on stage and then out of nowhere I saw on stage this very attractive cute looking girl with perfect long legs even-though she was short. I saw the number she had on and told the girl who was speaking English to me, can you bring the girl who was o just on stage, number .." Couldn't remember 30-something".. She ran to the back room or onto the other level and pulled her out and told her in Thai to go sit with me, that I liked her. She sat down with me very pretty, .. Couldn't speak hardly any English.. Appeared shy.. Then the waitress came and demanded I buy her a drink. So I bought it .. Trying to communicate with her and all I got across she worked there withe 2 days or 2 weeks. So she sat with me, gave me a short lap dance... I guess I didn't offer to pay a bar fine and she went back on stage to dance. Walked around to different bars for a few hours and before I went back to my hotel I stopped to that first spot and saw that pretty one again and she waved hi to me. Now I wasn't looking to take any girl home and wasn't trying to paying a bar fine.. Then I realized after the bar closes.. I could have just waited for her to come out and see if she wanted to hang out / eat etc. Based on Buzzin, if the girl is shy and barely speaks English, she might have less miles on her? 🤔
yeah you're spot on there mate
Women in bars that use the " It's only my 2nd day " line, might well be telling the truth - well some truths, but not all. You see these bar girls will typically get a 1 week, 10 day or 2 week contract, which will get renewed if the bar owner and the girl is happy with the arrangement. However, a girl can easily jump ship every few weeks and the " It's only my 2nd day " is technically true, but they forget to tell you that they've worked in 50 bars.
Some yes, many no
Buffalo’s have 9 lives 😂😅
lol
9 Sponsors lol
Don't go looking for a wife. Go to have fun. Leave Thailand in Thailand. When they start asking for money, just say you don't have it or you're saving to return. Eventually they'll stop asking.
Treat them with respect, don't be tight with money, and they'll make sure you have a good time. If you are extra generous with your money (like myself), just say you spent it all during your trip, when they ask you after you went home.
Leave potential wives at home
Good video Trevor thanks 🙏
Glad you enjoyed it
I love the long time service, but on my second trip 2 of the girls faked health issues and left in the middle of the night, so they could earn some more money doing short time i imagine. They didnt do that on my first trip. I love waking up with the girls to a morning quicky.
Wow sorry that happened
@@Buzzinpattaya I did manage to find a nice Soi 6 girl who looked after me well, but I was a bit shocked. The ones that did it were from the more upmarket go go bars. Is that a common scam for long time?
Solid advice.
Cheers mate
You arrange a LT (all night), get back to room, shower, take care of business....and the girl suddenly gets a phone call from her roommate who has locked herself out of the room. Your "date" now wants to go to help her friend and, of course, wants LT money when she was only there briefly.
Haha yeah I can see that all day long mate
Yes, that's a good trick. They always seem to be in contact with friend, who knows exactly what theyre doinh
Dead easy answer. Give her the choice of:
Stay, as agreed, and get full money. Or...
Leave now, I'll give you 1000thb... or whatever lower amount you consider appropriate for early exit
The best advice is to understand that it is ok to say no. Say no politely and with a smile. Just understand it is all a game from the girls side and from our side. No drama is necessary. Plenty of beautiful and avaialable girls arround.
Indeed mate
When a girl pulls the "oh i feel sick" line or the "i have headache" line and they get away with it, it encourages them and others to pull these "tricks" on other foreigners.
Very common trick sadly
Sudden “time of the month” is common as well
@@Buzzinpattaya If its not true its a lie, not a trick.
Hi trev you call it a trick i see it as a lying, but as you said many many do it,thanks great information again😊😊😊
Thanks 👍
Do all of the bar girls make things this difficult? I'm trying to go in January for obvious single guy reasons. Is every bar girl going to try to scam me?
It just adds to the excitement
No m8
The thing bro is when you get there you need to "be" the man and just be confident wherever you go and sometimes you gotta be a hard ass and NO and keep walking.
You won't be scammed if you know what bullshit they try to give you. Always remember ultimately these girls are sex workers. Thailand will blow your mind you need to be careful and don't be affraid to say no. Don't give the girls your phone number because they won't leave you alone and don't tell them it's your first visit
All of the above comments to yours are true. My advice would be to take only the amount of money that you intend to spend that night leave your ATM card at hotel including your passport. Pay your bar Bill, as it comes. Do not be afraid to say no. If you feel pressure, get up to leave. Don't go shooting way above your pay grade. If you're an average looking guy, you don't go for the best looking girl in the bar. The older less prettier girls will be less expensive in the long run. If you're going to be there for a little while, maybe find somebody ahead of time and book them for the time there. You can find somebody on Thai friendly or other dating apps and agree on a price ahead of time. Just make sure you FaceTime or video time with them first to be sure that they're not catfishing you with unrealistic photos. You'll have a great time in Thailand if you follow a few simple rules. And no matter what never get mad. Never get upset and never raise your voice. And never never get drunk. If you want to get drunk, do it in the hotel. Enjoy your visit.
Thanks for the information
My pleasure
More advice is don't think they will be immediate 'tricks' often it maybe a long game esp. If a sponsor is end end result - u will be convinced shes your gf but as soon as you leave it game on - keep an eye out for multiple phones and also the different apps for messaging she uses - its not a bad thing its just what it is and you got to accept shes a bar girl working to make money - if u cant deal with that u will get burnt.
You need to be 'less kind' if its ANYTHING about money.
Another warning if u do get 'claimed' a jealous thai lady can be an absolute crazy nightmare.
Good advice as there is ALWAYS a bf or sponsor... And remember the long game eg. She may go with u as gd to Phi Phi island for 2 weeks but u WILL go home ....
Just becareful as it ISN'T your western big city or lady and u will relax and have fun - thays the aim
I get ya mate
Great Advice Trev.
Thanks 👍
When I first came 20 years ago I either fell for or heard/seen all of these ‘tricks’!
Yeah it happens
@@Buzzinpattaya Been married for 15 years now with 3 kids so I got it right in the end..! Few knocks along the way until I found the right one!!
Will try to catch up with you today at buzzin
nice one
Just remember before you "fix bayonets" heading out in the evening , every girl who has gone to Pattaya - Phuket has gone there to earn money !.
Well said
Helpful as ever Trev
Do my best mate
"This your first time in thailand?"
"No, i live here"
EVERY.SINGLE.TIME
Use your brains mates
Ah bless you did that make you feel good
Salut Trev.Nice video.😄👍
Cheers mate
The thing to remember is that they are working girls. They'll do anything to part you from your cash. Just imagine if a girl at home gave you the same story and was looking for cash .
It's unlikely you'd believe her. The same with the phone scam , why is she waiting on you to buy her a phone?
So, the thing to do is think.
If I was at home would I buy an iPhone for a girl I know for 2 days?
Okay
Good warnings to the tourist who visited Pattaya Pattaya is a learning experience I seen many people get scam of there life savings losing everything. Life is a education
Sadly it happens as you said
If you’re to the point that she’s telling you about her “sick buffalo” or “sick parents”; pay your bill and GTFO! And never go back there!!
Lol
good tips and advice.
Cheers mate have a good day