Julien BriseBois | Press Conference 7.1.24
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2024
- General Manager Julien BriseBois meets with the media following Day 1 of Free Agency.
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Getting rid of the Sergachev contract was huge and a great move for the team with what we got in return. But then not even reapproaching Stamkos, that was dumb.
And instead, giving Guentz $9 million. 💀💀💀
Why was that dumb he signed for 8million you think we are paying 8 million for someone that old and for 4 years??????
No loyalty for stammer after 2 cups? Ovie, Kopitar, and many others were given loyalty for being loyal and stammer gets shafted.
And how good are the caps, pens, and kings? Time moves on. Stamkos' era was coming to an end and over paying him could easily turn bad in 2 to 3 seasons it's just natural.
He’s doing “what’s best” for the organization though!!! Other players are going to see how he treats franchise players and consider that when looking for a new team.
And how have the Caps, Kings, Pens, etc been doing lately? These players are hired guns servicing an entertainment business. I don't find losing particularly entertaining. Do you?
Yeah and all those teams fell apart while they kept giving those players money due to loyalty even while they aged.
Do you want to win or or be loyal?
Lol. These clowns replying. Two of those teams made the playoffs and the other was on the bubble. All 3 of those players had 65+ points, and Crosby was even a dark horse MVP candidate. Those teams fell short because of other missteps by management (For instance, the Pens going after an aging d-man in Karlsson with his hefty contract). Also can't begin to quantify the loss in locker room presence and leadership with the loss of Stamkos. You might want to believe the players & staff are these robotic androids expected to set aside emotions while being paid handsomely, but the reality is everyone is human and that human element needs to be properly managed as much as anything else. Treat people as numbers on a spreadsheet, and things will unravel. Seen it time and again in every occupation, not just sports.
I think geekie is going to surprise a lot of people
He isnt stammy though
Much respect for JBB. What he did this year takes a lot of guts, and goes against the grain of what most NHL GMs would do. JBB stuck his neck out and went for a defensively-oriented mini-refresh, which is the only hope Tampa has to stay legitimately competitive in this decade. Remember that Stamkos had a -21 this last season despite his 40 goals. Oh, and he's 34. The 29-year-old Guentzel netted 30 despite missing 20% of the season, and posted a +25 while doing it. Add in the return of McD, landing an up-and-coming Moser, offloading an expensive and inconsistent Sergachev, and bagging a top-tier prospect, and this is looking like a team that has serious intent to stay relevant.
Finally someone that gets it. Not saying I’m not sad about the stammer trade, but business be business, not always sunshine and rainbows
Fully agreed! Losing stammer stinks but this isn’t a museum, we need to get younger and more competitive and this offseason has taken so many strides towards that
And regardless of what happened this week, one day 91 will be in the rafters and we won’t remember this, we will remember 4 cup runs and 2 cups
I would just like to know, what about removing Steven Stamkos from this roster makes us more competitive moving forward? He’s a franchise player. He was the only player who really showed up in the playoffs this season? But removing him sets up our future of success? I must be missing something
JBB doesn’t have any idea of the psychological impact this will have on the franchise and our players
Guentzel is a MUCH better 5v5 player than Stamkos is, all the numbers show it. He's also over 4 years younger, better defensively, and faster. He's one of the top forwards in the league. Stamkos asked for too much money. His primary benefit to the team is via the power play, but I'm going to be interested in seeing how well he does in Nashville without Kuch, one of the best creators in league history, helping set him up for all those power play goals.
It's simple, Guentzel is the better player, and younger. JBB's job is to manage our team, not manage fan emotions. Fans get attached to certain players and then want management to make decisions based on those emotions. JBB knew this wouldn't align with fan sentiment, but he did his job and made the correct decision regardless.
@@GWh135 they are professionals, you overestimate the psychological impact
@@Blackwater06 oh I’m not taking anything away from Jake Guentzel he’s a fantastic player and I’m very excited to see what he can do in a Bolts uniform, aside from being a PP specialist you cannot replace the leadership Steven provided to the team, he’s a gamer day in and day out doing whatever it takes to win, it was reported Stamkos only wanted 4-5 million to stay in Tampa you give him 6 years at 5.5 and I guarantee he stays and retires with the Bolts as a franchise player should, look at Crosby in Pittsburgh or Ovechkin in Washington
I love stammer, he’s the reason why I became a bolts fan, and all your points are valid. However when looking at what’s best for the future of the team, JBB is doing the right thing in my opinion. Yes it’s awesome that ovi and Sid are still on and probably gonna retire with their respective teams, however look at the state of said team, mediocrity! With stammer, the trajectory of the bolts is on par with both of the previously mentioned teams (2 first round eliminations back to back, aging core, etc). From an objective point of view it makes sense to get younger and extend the win now window. With all that being said i absolutely love stammer and he is absolutely a gamer, one of the best to ever do it
He said signing stammer would hurt us but trading an entire draft for Jeannot was a great idea in his head😭😭
One bad move
@@nastyshots4525one bad move that could impact a lot down the road
@@ithinkimcleverehhh depends how the prospects turn out. Geekie, Howard, and Duke all could be studs.
You bring up how he overpaid for jeannot but don't mention how he overpaid for Blake Coleman and Goodrow every trade doesn't work he's allowed to make a mistake
Quit sucking your teeth. Brutal.
We do whats best for our organization like giving up a whole draft for a guy who can only fight.
Then he somehow robs the kings but it doesn’t remotely cover what they gave up
one big mistake but he did not hesitate to give up on him while other GM would have kept him at any cost because of what was given. you don't judge someone's work on one trade
Waaaaaaa go watch golf you clearly don’t know hockey
You're bringing up how he overpaid for TJ but you don't mention how he overpaid for Blake Coleman and Goodrow the guys allowed to make a mistake
@@allannixon5113 the big difference is Tampa don't win the last two stanley cups without this third line and these two players. Was the price high ? Yes but it paid off and you don't win cups if you are not able to take some risks.
It sucks that we may never know what truly happened and why they couldn’t come to an agreement. But hearing stammer say today “trying to hang on to something that doesn’t want to hang on to you” is an absolute gut punch. From everything I’ve seen and read I think stammer felt disrespected probably going back to last summer when JBB wouldn’t talk about an extension. And money aside this team just lost the best player to ever wear that crest, and that sucks. Obviously wish him nothing but the best and I hope our team can continue to compete.
shameful treatment of stammer we get rid of one of the best defence players in the league as in sergy and jeannot opens up 13mil and we cant give him 4-5 for 4-5 years -thats shameful
If we gave him 5 for 5 we're still paying him 7 million less and taking up an extra year of his time. Why would Stamkos have said yes to that at this point?
@@TheZynMan Because he wanted to stay!
Sergachev is NOT one of the best defensive players, I promise you that
@@deborahnelson6214 nobody knows what number it would truly have taken for him to say yes except him and his agent. So what are you basing this 4 or 5 million for 4 or 5 years number on? You sound pretty sure about it. Like yeah he would have preferred to stay, but how much lost money and time compared to his actual market value was that worth to him? We don't know. I do know that 3 per for 8 years is an insulting offer if you can command 8 per for 4 years plus whatever he can sign for when it ends, and with him still playing at the level he is who's to say that 4 million is any less insulting? Who's to say he'd be happy taking a 3 million dollar pay cut to 5 million per year while still producing at an elite level? Is it all just stuff that you're assuming because you would really like for it to have been true? Well hell, so would I! I just don't see any reason to believe that it was.
@@TheZynMan The fact that Guentzel gets 9 mil a year says enough.
Press Conference start @21:51
You would think they would just edit out the first… idk… 20 minutes of this video?
Let the record show JBB was 14 minutes late to this press conference. He says he appreciates fans but that was disrespectful for the fans and press.
That’s the TBL media team for ya, so trash. You’d think with an organization like this they’d have someone that knows how to run/edit a social media page. Always something, like 1/3 of Guentzel presser was him starring into the webcam and muted 😂
I miss Yzerman.
He is Yzerman understudy. If I remember correctly Yzerman told Stammer to test free agency. Stammer could have gotten more money elsewhere but elected to sign here. What Brisebois offered him was an insult
How had Yzerman done in Detroit? We have won 2 cups with JBB. Also, stammer and Hedman not drafted by Steve either
@blakemaxfield4267 gee, I wonder who laid out the groundwork for JBB.
Me too man, me too.
@@chemicalsporeacting like brisebois wasn’t his assistant the entire time lmao
Always sports teams falling for the let’s win now trap. Almost never works. You’re making me lose interest in my favorite thing in the world. Tampa Bay Hockey. Great job!
Nothing he said made any sense. I think we got younger? McDonagh 35 and Sergie 26. What a dumpster fire 🔥
He thought bringing back McDonagh would cancel our the low ball offer. It's clear JBB didn't care. He wanted to trick him into staying
JJ moser 24. Geekie 20😅
JBB got a good return for Mikhail Sergachev. JJ Moser is a solid defender and they got a very good prospect in Conor Geekie. He also got two draft picks (2nd and 7th rounders).
Don’t watch the. Cry baby
no adress to Sergy
Just adds to the disrespect he shows the players an fans. Dude is a 🤡
I hope he realizes how mad and disappointed the fans are at him. Good job Julien. Thanks for all your lack of effort to keep our captain.
Gm is a hard job and Hockey is a business. I think he is right though he made moves that keep us strong now and strong in the future, time will tell
@@krismegood9092 The fact Sheary is on this team makes me sick.
We aren’t paying 8m a year for stammer that’s crazy talk
@@OliverWattsLLC he would’ve taken less to stay in Tampa
@@OliverWattsLLChe wanted 4-5 mil per year to stay not 8. And certainly not 3…
Idk if it was just me but he kept on saying these other guys are “in their prime” almost implying Steven isn’t as good anymore?? Idk could just be me
I mean, hes mid 30s. I love stammer but that is technically "past prime"
@@ConqBonq no for sure I definitely get that but he definitely was still playing pretty good even last season.
Pretty good.Stanmer kicked ass last season.
Stamkos was a pp merchant last year. His 5 on 5 play and defensive play is getting bad.
@@ConqBonq Meanwhile 36 year old Crosby and 34 year old Stamkos do better than most 20 something year olds that are supposed to be in their "prime"
And if age is the actual case, then why waste 9 mil/7 year contract on a soon to be 30 year old with a single 80+ pt season so far?
So Stamkos wanted 5 million from us and we have 7.5 left. Assuming Moser takes 2-2.5 who is JBB expecting to find for that remaining 5 mill that is better than Stammer. Even if you take emotions out of it, these moves are trash.
Moser is projected to get 4-4.5.
Letting Stammer walk out our door was ridiculous...
Stamkos was the top producer in the playoffs. We also only played well as a whole in the game Sergy came back for in the playoffs. I'm very confused.
JBB overpays Guentzel then proceeds to lowball Stamkos and is upset that they couldn’t come to terms and he was working with a tight cap space. 😭😭 how does he still have a job after Conor Sheary, Tanner Jeannot, and Stamkos
Guentzel an overpay? Lol
@@loganhacker9329 yes? 9 million for a guy who’s never had more than 86 points? 9 million for a guy who will be 37 at the end of his contract? Not even point gets paid that much.
@@spackdesigns952 point makes 9.5
@@loganhacker9329 MB , point makes .5 more than him. How bout Reinhart at 8.6m?
@@loganhacker9329 9 million for a guy who’s never had more than 86 points? 9 million for a guy who will be 37 at the end of his contract?
Yikes… probably should have gotten better coaching on his delivery and choice of words before going out there.
Everybody’s acting like Yzerman wouldn’t have taken the same path, yet where did Marty and Vinny end their careers? I would’ve loved to see Stammer end his career as a Bolt, but at the end of the day, this is a business, and Stamkos opted to get paid. I don’t blame him at all, I’ll miss him dearly, and the team will miss him, but it is JBB’s responsibility to make hard decisions such as this to set the organization up for success. I don’t envy his job at all.
Granted however neither Marty or Vinny were playing at Stammers level when they were replaced.
@@rickcafiero7552 Marty was still playing at a point-per-game pace before he left for NYR, but I understand where you’re coming from.
@@rickcafiero7552remember Vinny was bought out because he signed a long term deal that overpaid him and it went south quickly. Why do that with stamkos and have to trade or buy him out?
How many players stay with the same team their whole career? Not everything is so cut n dry people taking sides is lame its touch on Stammer and Jbb
Pittsburgh and Washington kept Cosby & Ovi and aren't contenders
He did the right thing. You don’t want to be like the Penguins and fade off into the sunset( Malkin got like 2 more years and Letang has 4 and both are 38 &37 ). That contract he got was ridiculous. Now they have a chance to win another cup or two. Tough decision, but you can’t listen to the fans. If you listen to them too much you will be sitting with them. Not to mention the lighting got alot younger with moser and Geekie now.
Blah.blah blah...
Steven Stamkos made our championships happen! Yes , no matter what you say. Its not worth letting him go, he deserved what he asked for.
It’s a tough business. I’m sad to see Stammer go. He will always be a Bolt and he will always be a king in Tampa.
JBB has no clue how to address or talk to the fans. Shameful treatment of our Captain.
I dunno, everything he said made sense and sounded professional to me. He may well have been just plain wrong about what does or doesn't make our team better, i'm not saying he's right. I'm just saying, what about the way he spoke here was inappropriate or disrespectful to the fans?
@@TheZynMan He was stuttering over his words the whole time and didn’t seem to acknowledge the gravity of this situation for the franchise. This is a monumental moment for the Lightning and he’s acting as if it’s just another Monday. He should have listened to the fans and just signed Stamkos for $4-5 million. We had the cap space for him.
@@GWh135 what is he supposed to do, wail and gnash his teeth? Cry and apologize? Tear out his hair and offer his firstborn to the fans in order to appease their wrath? He acted like a man who has a job to do, and is doing it. I would rather hear someone tell it dry like they're reporting to their boss than to get up there and pander to the emotional knee-jerk reactions of fans like a weakling who isn't confident in his decisions. Him acting heartbroken would not have helped the team look forward constructively. It wouldn't have even made you happy, you'd have just found another way to frame your anger at him for not resigning Stamkos. It would, however, make him look lost and weaken the ability of the players we DO still have to believe in the plan and buy in wholeheartedly next year. It is his job to never sound like disaster has struck, that is literally part of what the team pays him to do. Also, super classy to judge someone on the minutiae of their diction while public speaking, under pressure, delivering clearly disappointing news, IN THEIR SECOND LANGUAGE. I bet you'd have been perfect under those conditions, huh?
Petty, petty, and petty. Just admit you're mad because we didn't sign Stammer; that's a perfectly fine reason to be angry, and there is not a need to pretend that the problem is something about this rather unremarkable press conference itself.
@@TheZynMan You’re right. I am angry, sad and frustrated that we didn’t sign him when we should have and I’m projecting. I wouldn’t have even commented if I wasn’t. I don’t expect him to act super emotional, but he doesn’t seem very moved by the decision at all. It just feels like he and the organization are massively understating the significance of this situation.
@@GWh135 he is French canadian he is trying to find the words in English to explain himself jeez
Fire him, can't find 4-5 mln for Stammer?
Nashville got him for 8 tho not 4-5
@@blakemaxfield4267 that’s Nashville price, he was ready to sign for 5mln
Jesus dumbass falling out of the tree stammer signed for 8m no way we could afford that for his age
That's real smart fire the guy who got us back to back cups and three straight finals appearances because he wouldn't overpay for a aging player
@@allannixon5113 Yzerman build this team. 4.5-5mln isn't overpay for 60-80 points next 4 years.
I hope Jeffrey Vinik is seeing what has happened here. Is this how he wants loyal people in his organization to be treated? JBB needs to go.
Why would vinik get rid of the guy who got us back to back cups and three straight finals appearances and made us better by not overpaying a aging player
JBB has no loyalty. Unless the new guy has 50 to 60 goals for the next 4 or 5 years, this is a terrible move. When the Lightning doesn't advance deep in the playoffs the next couple of years, JBB will jump to another team and try to look like a hero because he won 2 cups. He's never been on the ice and has no idea what a "team" means.
Jake 67 games 77 pts stammer 79 games 81 pts dude is no joke and stamkos was my favorite player I wanted us to have both but im a lightning fan forever
@@blakemaxfield4267 Stamkos outscored the "kid" in his prime 6 out of the last 7 years and the only year (20-21) he had more was when Stamkos was hurt for about half the year, but we won the cup.
Get rid of this clown and bring Stamkos back
Fans, I’ve been a Lightning fan since 1993. As much as Stammer has meant to the fans and the community, it’s his on ice stats that hurt his chances of staying. Yes, he scored 40 goals and 62 assists for 102 points… BUT he was also -21 in +/- at the same time, which was the worst on the team this past season, meaning when he was on the ice, he was a defensive liability. It’s hard, but Guentzel was a +25 in +/- with nearly the same goals and assists. Yes, it’s an empty feeling, but in order to stay competitive, we have to make moves. Toronto hasn’t made any moves to their core, and look at them. Running it back every year, and getting ousted in the first round.
He did the right thing. 8X4 is way too much for a 35 year old. You don’t want to just fade away into nothingness like the Penguins and Blackhawks did.
Could have kept Stammer and continued to get younger players.
absolutely horrible decisions remove him now "I wanted stammer to stay" yet he offered him barely a crumb and allows a club legend to leave unacceptable. How can you say the best bolt in history is not in the best interest of the team
That's real smart get rid of the guy who got us back to back cups and three straight finals appearances because he wouldn't overpay for a aging player
Not going to listen. Don't even want to hear what he has to say Im so upset.
I made it 3 minutes, that’s enough
Then you shouldn't of watched it.
JBB had an amazing June.. We got younger, faster, stronger.. Then came July. Losing our Capt is devastating. Business first should not have been this organization's main focus here. That's all.
Team first, finally someone smart
That's real smart overpay stamkos and not improve the team so we have no chance at winning
Well the past two years we went out in round 1, something had to be better. I will miss Stamkos, but I'd rather see them get past the first round or possibly another cup would be nice too. I can't wait this season to start!! ⚡️💙⚡️#GoBolts ⚡️💙⚡️
People pointing out Stammer's +/- and defensive liabilities as to why he was let go... The entire team was at a minus halfway through the season. Comparing Stammer's +/- to Guentzel's is comparing apples to oranges. BTW, Kuch likely lost the MVP voting because of his +/- and defensive effort as well. The team as a whole struggled 5v5. If JBB wants to clean house, maybe he should start with the assistant coach in charge of the defensive schemes and his inability to implement it with the roster we have. The worst part about this situation is JBB didn't even bother with a counter offer after freeing up cap space. $4M AAV @ 8 years (same total contract value as the one he signed in Nashville) was feasible and would've made up for the money he left on the table in 2016 to stay with this team. Just another reminder to never make sacrifices for your bosses, because there's no guarantee they'll return the favor.
What would you leave that dead air until 21:51 ???
If we were going to let this happen then why did we keep him instead of Coleman and Goodrow a couple years ago? Why did we keep him instead of MacDonagh?
Gives up the farm for Jeannot and doesn't fight for one of if not the best athlete in Tampa history. Don't let the door hit ya on the way out JBB.
Stammer signed for 8 million for four year no way we could afford him quit whining it’s a business
@@OliverWattsLLC no one is whining. it’s been stated multiple times that he was willing to take less than he signed for in Nashville to stay in Tampa.
You mention how he overpaid for jeannot but don't mention how he overpaid for Blake Coleman and Goodrow every trade doesn't work out he's allowed to make a mistake and not overpaying stamkos is what's best for the team
Didn't even reapproach Stamkos with a somewhat reasonable offer. 3 million for a 40 and 40. 5 would have been good for both sides.
Hang in there JBB. This is what it looks like when a fan base begins taking winning for granted. The walls were falling when similar endings took place for Vinny & Marty, as well. I’ll continue supporting the GM and the Org who continues to truly go for it! Not an easy job you got there! You’ve got support!
Stammer deserves all the gratitude in the world for everything he did here! We love ya, we’ll miss ya, and wish you the best. You’ll always be welcome back!
The only good thing out of the Stamkos ordeal was that he signed with my 2nd favorite hometown team.
One of the problems last season was defense and score goals 5 on 5, and it was annoying to watch the team Just rely on the power plays to win games, so it makes sense that JBB got Jack Guentzel and Brought back Ryan McDonagh and got J.J Moser 24 year's old Top 4 D and Conor Geekie.
Still the best GM in the league. He has the hardest job in the NHL and is doing it wonderfully. Adding Jake to the core is incredible, every team in the league wanted him. Just need to extend Hedman and prepare for the Kucherov extension. TB will be in the playoffs for the foreseeable future.
I don't think JBB had any real intention of bringing Stamkos back. That's just my opinion though.
People who asks how does removing Stamkos make the team more competitive. Stamkos made half of his goals on PP. He was a twenty goal scorer at 5 vs 5. I liked Stamkos, but we have to think about the future of the Lightning, Stamkos is not getting better while Guentzel is 29 and skates like hell so Point and Kuch can have a great winger for them and maybe Guentzel can help Sheary scoring a little more. He was a disaster last year in Tampa. The Sergachev trade made us younger with Geekie and Moser but also the McDonagh Moser combined compensates the fact that Sergachev left. Geekie, Howard and getting some picks. Finally, Brisebois is thinking about the future of the organization because our prospects pool was getting dryer than the desert
For the next two years, expect Tampa to fight their way in for the playoffs but Brisebois is doing is best to make sure Tampa Bay is not a joke in 4 years and doesn't have to spend the eternity at the bottom of the league like Pittsburgh who have been in total denial.
JBB is the man I respect all his decisions
Julian if you get this wrong me and all real fans will riot in thunder alley but let’s hope he is right
another step away from yserman 10 steps toward the basement
Yzerman 0 cups as gm red wings 0 playoff appearances with him as gm
Yserman has done absolutely nothing in Detroit
Got a tattoo of the lightning logo on my hand because I didn't believe stamkos would captain the team back to another Stanley cup in 2021. I made bet with myself lol and they fucking did it! This tattoo means alot. It's on my left hand and covers most of it. I'm only 25 but stamkos was my favorite bolt to watch growing up. But sucks to watch him go, hopefully he comes back someday. But for now, I hope the boys can move on..
He was my favorite too but im a bolt 4 life
It's a shame to see Guentzel using 9 mil of cap space, meanwhile Nashville has Stamkos at 8 mil.
Shame
29 yrs old
@@blakemaxfield4267 With a contract to set him till he's 37 (he's turning 30 when the season starts)
A 36 year old Crosby is better than any 20 something year old. Guentz will never be as good as Stamkos was and still is today.
@@disgoyknows88guentzel will have better seasons for the rest of Stamkos’s career lol
@@loganhacker9329 Yeah keep coping buddy, he has a single 80+ pt season in his whole career (and isn't getting younger either). I'll be sure to come back here after next season ends with a "I told you so."
@@disgoyknows88 I don’t think either of us are getting younger. I’m sure you’re a fan of Point and his 9.5 deal. Guentzel has more ppg szns than him and he also produced at the same rate at 5v5/60 as Kuch. With the natural increase of the salary cap a 9M will be 6-7 based on % of the total cap.
Screw this GM, this was last straw for our house.
Go be another fan then I'm sick of these whiney tb fans I've grown up here all my life get through tough times then comment on something real....
Bye
That sounds like a real fan screw the guy who got a back to back cups with three straight finals appearances and still has us as cup contenders because he wouldn't overpay a aging player
How could they do this to Stamkos, what a rotten signal does management send to its stars Kucherov, Hedman that business will always be higher than the value for the team, which means you don’t have to work hard for the sake of the team, when you get old you’ll be kicked out.
Hockey is a business and every player in the league know that you do what's best to help the team win and not overpaying for a aging player just because some fans want him to is what's best for the team
I wish the dislike button showed the number on this video
lol so you got rid of your 34 year old captain so you could pay a 29 year old 9 million dollar a year for 7 years? And that’s considered a younger team? lol
29 today, 30 in October.
Yes that’s 5 years younger huge difference. Plus we got 2 extremely young promising prospects. Losing Stamkos hurts and sucks but we 100% got younger
@@Dylanjackson1 McDonagh is 35 replacing 26 year old Sergachev. That is -9 and cancels the +4 on Stamkos to Guentzel move. If the young guys we got in the trade for Sergachev work out great, but those are prospects so the team is not younger over the next few years.
@@j.r.348 well the prospect guys are on the team so yes the team is younger now. Whether they make an immediate impact will have to be seen. But yes it’s not like we are 100x younger than we were before.
Boooooooooo. I have no respect for a man who showed such little respect to a Lightning Legacy player like Stamkos.
That's a real fan have no respect for the guy who got us back to back cups and three straight finals appearances because he wouldn't overpay for a aging player
I'd appreciate it if someone could share JBBs really great roster moves to date that should make me comfortable with his not resigning Stamkos. Up to this point, its mostly been just resigning Yzerman's guys, hasn't it?
The best thing JBB has done for the team is bring Brandon Hagel in
He's the guy who was willing to overpay for Blake Coleman and Goodrow which got us over the hump
Booooooooooo
Wonder what the conversation between Headman and Stammer was? JBB you suck
According to you, who's going to be the next captain?
Heddy
@@blakemaxfield4267 fair enough
He couldn’t sound less confident. He was sweating through his shirt. He did though make great points, we did get younger.
Losing Stamkos hurts, but JBB is right.
He is an ego filled 🤡
Wonder if not signing Stammer will have an affect on season ticket sales?
Uhhh no considering we cheer on a TEAM, players come and go and the logo and bolt is forever….welcome to hockey, he’s a GM he’s not suppose to make decisions with emotions
i still miss yanni gourde, i missed st louis when he left, but i'm excited to see new players too, guentzel is an amazing player, i'm a bolt no matter what
Why would season tickets go down we're still cup contenders
People. Grow up. It’s a business. I love Stammer and appreciate the years of watching him play. He was a great captain and is an equally great person. That being said, this team ran out of steam against Colorado and now hasn’t made it out of the first round in two years. Changes had to be made and hard decisions are part of that. If we kept Stammer we lose other pieces down the line and we don’t improve. No hockey team employs players just to do it. It’s to win Championships.
At least hedman is staying
Так поступить со Стэмкосом выглядит, как предательство. Дикая ситуация. Лучший щелчок в касание в Лиге выброшен из родного клуба, как ненужная собака. Без него немыслимо представить лучшую игру в большинстве в лиге. Всех этих бегущих-сопливых уже не подтянет Капитан. Джейк Гюнцель это центр, но не топовый левый "круг" Лиги. Куч не капитан и не годится на эту роль. Надорвёт пупок и тоже сменит клуб. Сказка подходит к концу.
По этому лицу кто-то хочет зарядить? Эти глаза работают в чужих интересах.
Hedman and Sergy didn't earn that kind of $$$.....Short changed Stamkos..... you really sent a message about what future stars can expect.
Tampa is the city of winners we want championships from the football team to the baseball team and the hockey team beautiful city I was born and raised in city of winners and champions
A whole lot of crying on here. If you are thinking of leaving the team over this, you were never a fan to begin with. This is business. Yes he could have given stammer what he wanted but where would that get us? It would have closed our window. And are we really still complaining about the Jeannot trade?! It sucked. Move on. He was a hot commodity and there was a bidding war. The price was high and we paid it. It didn’t work. He’s gone. I love Stammer and it sucks, but I do think we are in a better place for this season and in the near future.
I can't believe how many people say fire jbb because he wouldn't overpay for stamkos and those people that keep bringing up the overpay for jeannot don't mention how he overpaid for Blake Coleman and Goodrow they think every trade works out
This guy watched Yzerman build a juggernaut and then made it his mission to deconstruct it and build his own. A living breathing L.
He did what Stevie y couldn't he made the right trades for the right players that got us back to back cups and three straight finals appearances go root for Detroit
I will never forgive you, jbb. I'll not feel the same way towards you or the Lightning organization. It's a shame
Steve Yzerman built the roster not this guy he’s messing everything up
Who do you think was working with him all those years and he's the guy who made the trades that finally got us over the hump because Stevie y couldn't figure it out look how well Detroit is doing with Stevie y go root for them
This GM sent a message to the entire team that they mean absolutely nothing. No loyalty. The ownership should listen to the fans and fire this GM period. He didn't even try to keep Stamkos. You had a two time stanley cup captain that deserved way more from the team than he was offered. GM you absolutely suck.
and what about signing hedman to a new contract ?
That's real smart fire the guy who got us back to back cups and three straight finals appearances because he wouldn't overpay for a aging player
@@allannixon5113 fired ? His contract ended and stamkos was not the only player on the ice, he also played only one playoff game in 2020.
The future is more important than the past and the team has other leaders.
@@Alexis_R21 did you read my comment I'm not the one saying to fire him I'm pointing out how stupid these people saying fire him are
@@allannixon5113 i misread your comment, i thought you were saying stamkos has been fired by jbb, my bad.
So I’m going to be pragmatic. I think JBB is not fully connected to the added emotional aspect of it all. So he looked at other top players entering their 34 year old deal. And their contracts expired and they still re-signed without hard feelings. Stamkos is not those players and Tampa is not those cities/fans and so it was hard and insulting and frustrating from the emotional perspective. I think in hindsight he clearly sees he did not handle it great, but he may have made the smart but difficult choice. We shall see
Steven Stamkos will always be my Captain! Why not let him retire as a Lightning, he was ou best player in the playoffs and best player of the franchise. So sad, no consideration of the fans. I am going to always use his Jersey and form now on will only go to a game when Nashville is here just to see him play and score against us, like all players we let go do.
One of the best and most respected Captains of the NHL.
Then your not a bolt just a player fan BYE!!!!
@@LuckyHooopla 😂
He has consideration for the fans that's why he made the team better by not overpaying a aging player
@@sandrajoaquin8466 haha Nashville fan...
Shame on you and your performative "care" for Stammer. He has been about the team on the ice, off the ice, and took a team contract last time and this is how repay him? DISGUSTING. You MESSED up. BIG.
Improving the team by not overpaying for a aging player is not messing up
@allannixon5113 Tell me you don't actually follow hockey statistics without telling me... 😂😂😂. Stammer took a team cap contract willingly forfeiting millions to the greater good of the team for EIGHT YEARS. He was paid under value and was willing to continue to be paid below value to retire with the team. But yeah, overpaying... riiiiiiiiiight.
Explain how Heddy got around $3 million more than what Stamkos was reported to be willing to accept, despite being the same age. Or how McD, who is 5 years older, got a contract close to what Steven was willing to drop to, especially considering McD only asked to be traded back to the Lightning, telling the Nashville GM, "I want to return to Stammer and the boys." Stammer ranked 15th in regular-season goals and 26 in points last season, but thanks for your input.
@@dsolu6 heddy is still a top dman and if stamkos is better than why wasn't he the number one free agent on the market
Fire JBB. Bro fell off since 2022
Where still a cup contender because of him
@@allannixon5113 Where? Or we’re. We struggled to get to the playoffs for a big portion of the season. And on top of that we got eliminated in the first round two years in a row
@@julianromero7615 we improved by not overpaying stamkos and we're still cup contenders
@@allannixon5113 playoff contenders have you seen the meh guys this man has been signing 😭
@@allannixon5113 what are you still thinking about the players leaving?
In JBB we trust!
#fireJulienBriseBois
2 cups as a gm Yzerman 0 as a gm
That's real smart fire the guy who got us back to back cups and three straight finals appearances because he wouldn't overpay a aging player
You guys want to be sentimental or win a cup again? Guentzel-Point-Kucherov will give us a big chance again. Stamkos was huge for us for 16 years but as we have seen for the past 2 seasons its time to move on. I have 100% trust in BriseBois!
Yeah you're that guy just remember that
I know it’s hard for fans to understand but franchise players leave it’s not the end of the world. Brady left New England lebron left Cleveland twice Montana left the 49ers. JBBs goal is to win championships and bringing in younger players to extend the window is the right move
except he brought back McDonagh and traded Sergachev. That is not getting younger.
Let's not forget even Gretzky got traded
JBB cooked bont care what anyone says
He’s a QC.
They are always rats.
They never show emotion.
They don’t care about respect.
He blatantly disrespected the single person who enhanced the entire organization past what they could’ve done without him.
(Think about the revenue stamkos himself created from his stardom)
Yet JBB pays a Mid 6 forward in Jake guentzel more than what stamkos was even asking for.
That is blatant disrespect.
mid 6 forward ? you have no clue
What exactly do you mean by he’s a QC…?
I've never seen a mid 6 be the best free agent on the market there's a reason he was the best free agent not stamkos
What a bumbling mumbling mess of a speech. I don’t think he actually knew what level of backlash he’d get. His legacy will be his failure to keep Stamkos.
His legacy is getting us back to back cups and three straight finals appearances and keeping us in cup contenders by not overpaying a aging player
will the same fate await Point?
Point has 7 more years left on his contract... dont know what the hell you are talking about.
28 year old point signed for 6 more seasons?😂😂
Fire JBB
That's real smart fire the guy who got us back to back cups and three straight finals appearances because he wouldn't overpay for a aging player
JBB has done an excellent job!
Boooooo
get over it, this team feels refreshed tbh.
Quit making crappie 8bit video game music. No one cares about your retro garbage. GET over it.😂
Our Power Play rated 1/2 just fell to 20 or lower. See how that works out.
I hate we lost Stamkos but the biggest reason our power play was great was Kuch. Still losing Stamkos will hurt
@@Dylanjackson1 No threat on the left side. No team could defend both, now there is only one.
@@LugerLau we don’t know that. Guentzel could be very good for us. I don’t expect him to be Stamkos but he could very easily be a threat. We won’t know until the season starts.
@@LugerLau we don’t know that. Guentzel could be very good for us. I don’t expect him to be Stamkos but he could very easily be a threat. We won’t know until the season starts.
How do you know are power play dropped to 20 and you forgot to mention are 5v5 just improved
Maybe it is time for brisboise to move on...he screwed this one up
FIRE the GM
That's real smart fire the guy who got us back to back cups and three straight finals appearances because he wouldn't overpay for a aging player
Number one bullshit
You are a disgrace to our team Julien!
How is he a disgrace because he wouldn't overpay for a aging player he got us back to back cups and three straight finals appearances and still cup contenders
Seems like it's time to start looking for a GM replacement, stop low balling great plays,that's why Killorn left too
That's real smart fire the guy who got us back to back cups and three straight finals appearances because he wouldn't overpay for a aging player
I am reconsidering my fandom
It’s ok you can join hop on the panthers bandwagon.
If you're reconsidering your fandom because he wouldn't overpay for a aging player than your not a real fan
Serious question: has anyone started a petition to have JBB fired?
That's real smart fire the guy who got us back to back cups and three straight finals appearances
JBB is hurting the organization more then helping it. Giving up Gourde, Killorn, Goodrow, Coleman, Sergachev (why on earth did he give sergy that awful deal?), entire Mcdonagh case, pretty much all of our draft picks and now the face of the entire franchise.
JBB knows how to speak, but it doen't work anymore since the decline of the team has been fastforwarded this much.
Trust has took a serious hit.
Why the fans should cheer on a organization like this, if this is the way they handle people and the littlest pumps (meaning the small difference between what Stamkos asked and what JBB offered).
Being a truly great franchise (f.e.Barcelona, Real Madrid) is about respecting the players with high status in there.