Missing 411 | The Disappearance of Matthew Greene

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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
  • While not technically a Missing 411 case, the disappearance of Matthew Greene from Mt. Mammoth in 2013 remains an extremely interesting missing persons case. While waiting for his car to finish repairs, Greene, a math teacher from Nazareth, Pennsylvania, vanished off the north face of Mt. Mammoth in Mammoth Lakes, California. We bring you the details. Welcome back to The Lore Lodge...
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  • @ArmaliteLover
    @ArmaliteLover 2 роки тому +617

    If you've ever seen a person get eaten by an Alligator then you know it's agonizing for the few short minutes or seconds depending on how many there are....I hope those gators are nice and full and I hope he felt it all lol

    • @TheLoreLodge
      @TheLoreLodge  2 роки тому +167

      If that is how he went out I sure hope it was long and painful

    • @Mil_Spec_Spartan_
      @Mil_Spec_Spartan_ 2 роки тому +149

      Fact: alligators do not biologically age. They only ever die of starvation, disease, or being actively killed by other animals. Muh fuggin bear trap lizards too stubborn to stop existing. I love them...

    • @mexicanbanjo9325
      @mexicanbanjo9325 2 роки тому +81

      @@Mil_Spec_Spartan_ quite literally discount immortal dragons

    • @Mil_Spec_Spartan_
      @Mil_Spec_Spartan_ 2 роки тому +43

      @@mexicanbanjo9325 bear trap lizards from the dawn of time, too vicious and stupid to die or go extinct 😂

    • @yes-me6yg
      @yes-me6yg 2 роки тому +42

      @@Mil_Spec_Spartan_ this sounds like cap but I'm sure you're just a kindly person dropping facts but why oh why is there not a sci-fi movie about a shady billionaire splicing gator genes to achieve immortality

  • @galinswigart
    @galinswigart Рік тому +305

    I'm a Nazareth native and had Mr. Greene as my math teacher in high school. He went missing the year I graduated from Nazareth (2013). This story is as tragic as it is bizarre.. He was well known as a very skilled and experienced outdoorsman and it's a hard to imagine a freak accident happening on what appeared to be a nature walk more than a true hike. It never made much sense to us.
    I remember teachers and members of our community traveling out west to join the search party that summer. Rumors flew that summer that it was a freak accident, he was killed or kidnapped, and there was even a theory that he was allegedly spotted on a road later that year with a big beard and long hair as if he had escaped his life back home on purpose which made even less sense to those of us who knew him.
    Rest in peace to a great man and a great teacher.

    • @TheLoreLodge
      @TheLoreLodge  Рік тому +60

      All of my research suggested he was absolutely beloved by the community, I’m sorry for your loss

  • @SurprisinglyDynamicAnimeSideC
    @SurprisinglyDynamicAnimeSideC 2 роки тому +1281

    Low-key convinced a lot of these Missing 411 cases are people accidentally clipping through the map, falling through the skybox for a while, and - due to debug protocols - are automatically repositioned at a random spawn point, killing them from fall damage.

    • @TheLoreLodge
      @TheLoreLodge  2 роки тому +308

      My theory is pretty similar, just phrased in a more supernatural way haha

    • @LilyoftheLake14
      @LilyoftheLake14 2 роки тому +99

      ...Or they're clipping into the backrooms. 😏
      Jokes aside, I really do believe that there are real life areas in our where someone can "glitch" into a higher or separate dimension. This is how I believe the majority of the 411 cases that are about toddlers showing up, after a short period of time, either super far away, way high up at an elevation too high for a toddler to scale, or somewhere so bizarre it makes no logical sense like high up in a tree, dry, in the middle of a swamp.

    • @namelles6143
      @namelles6143 2 роки тому +22

      Its scary enough we live in the simulation then to think we can't do anything about its decay

    • @SurprisinglyDynamicAnimeSideC
      @SurprisinglyDynamicAnimeSideC 2 роки тому +57

      @@namelles6143 Nah I'm sure the devs will fix it in the upcoming patch.

    • @bim7355
      @bim7355 2 роки тому +11

      Backrooms?

  • @johndeereboy1945
    @johndeereboy1945 Рік тому +204

    I've been watching a number of your missing 411 videos and they're making me realize just how stupid I've been hiking solo, not giving a lot of info on where I'm going, and with minimal gear. And making me realize that there have been a couple of cases where I was one stupid, overconfident decision of possibly becoming the subject of one of these videos myself.
    On a lighter note, really liking all of the content you guys have been pushing out

    • @PoeLemic
      @PoeLemic Рік тому +3

      Please, do something really assine, then we'll all get to listen to a new story and wonder about it for weeks. This kind of content doesn't come much, so help us out and go missing.

    • @faithizzlezz
      @faithizzlezz Рік тому +3

      I'm the opposite. We took a trip to a very popular local spot with lots of tourists all over the trail and still texted family where we were, how long we'll be there and to call police of we don't check in later lol

    • @johnfortuna4190
      @johnfortuna4190 Рік тому +7

      Be safe man , I don’t wanna see your name on the next 411 . 🙏

    • @Killer_Space_2726-GCP
      @Killer_Space_2726-GCP Рік тому +1

      Makes me feel better about choosing to play video games instead of going solo hiking when I worked in the mountains with little cell service. Could have done other things, but I didn't become a 411!

    • @jamesc.e.s.4551
      @jamesc.e.s.4551 Рік тому +2

      Dude, if you become a serial killer along the hiking trails, then you can't go missing because *YOU ARE THE 411!*
      "I am become Missing 411... destroyer of girls." - Oppenheimer

  • @thekatelynfox
    @thekatelynfox Рік тому +556

    Mr. Greene was supposed to be my sophomore year math teacher before he went missing. He was loved by all of us 🤍

    • @pailhorsegaming6762
      @pailhorsegaming6762 Рік тому +26

      That’s really sad. I’m sorry for your communities loss.

    • @sir_abstract1808
      @sir_abstract1808 Рік тому +4

      I’m sorry for your loss

    • @StelmachsWorld
      @StelmachsWorld Рік тому +2

      Hoping you’re community gets closure one day

    • @BionicPig95
      @BionicPig95 Рік тому +9

      He was my statistics teacher in 2013, the semester right before he went missing. He was the best math teacher I ever had (genuinely not just saying that). I remember when I first found out about his disappearance and how shocked I was. It was right when it first happened and everyone was hoping he’d be found quickly. Such a shame.

    • @localcryptid42
      @localcryptid42 Рік тому

      Sorry for your and your communities loss 🧡

  • @stef1277
    @stef1277 11 місяців тому +20

    He was my homeroom teacher at Twin Valley his first year out of college. I was a senior ('96) - and even to me he was just a baby. I have a picture of him sitting cross legged on top of the desks with a bunch of us, and you legit couldn't tell which one of us was the teacher... 23 years and I still remember how nice and funny he was...

    • @NanaBren
      @NanaBren 7 місяців тому +1

      What a great memory! ❤

    • @TimJohniLL
      @TimJohniLL 11 днів тому

      I am happy to hear stories about teachers like this - it makes me consider 😊

  • @KaeYoss
    @KaeYoss 2 роки тому +292

    "Matt hasn't checked in, we need to call the authorities"
    "Nah, it'll be fine, let's not bother them about this until a week or so later when the chances of finding Matt alive have fallen off a cliff!"

    • @josephmatthews7698
      @josephmatthews7698 Рік тому +8

      Last thing you want to do is waste search and rescues time. It's not uncommon to wind up late. I wouldn't hate too harshly.

    • @luciac.419
      @luciac.419 Рік тому +5

      They definitely needed to start looking for him way sooner at least after 24 hours.

    • @hyperboreanforeskin
      @hyperboreanforeskin Рік тому +2

      ​@@luciac.419its pretty common, especially in the 2010s when there were no personal locator beacon, to run into problems on the trail and be a few days late. the trail can be washed out by rain, or blown down trees, or a land slide ect. forcing you to turn around and hike a different way out, adding miles and miles to your route.

    • @stacydroettboom3679
      @stacydroettboom3679 9 місяців тому

      Right, c'mon.

    • @tdg119
      @tdg119 7 місяців тому +4

      Have you even read a full account of his story? This is his sister. He travelled every summer. He wouldn’t call every day or every week; he was doing his thing. So no, it wasn’t unusual, until everyone gets together and you realize that he hasn’t talked to anyone in the timeframe. 🙄

  • @charmbrown1389
    @charmbrown1389 Рік тому +32

    So what I’ve learned from all these videos is if you’re going to go in the mountains or state park or wherever, make sure you’re inexperienced because only the experienced ones never come back. 🤷🏽‍♀️

  • @BionicPig95
    @BionicPig95 Рік тому +30

    He was my statistics teacher in 2013, the semester right before he went missing. He was genuinely the best math teacher I ever had and was such a cool person. I remember first hearing about his disappearance that summer. Such a terrible shame.

  • @matthewmoser1284
    @matthewmoser1284 2 роки тому +209

    These types of disappearances only serve to reinforce the idea for me that surveying skills should be more common among avid hikers. Being able to look a mountain peak from your location and use mathematics and a compass to pinpoint your own location would be very helpful in the rescuers finding your body some day.

    • @TheLoreLodge
      @TheLoreLodge  2 роки тому +48

      Absolutely. We were taught orienteering and surveying in scouts.

    • @chuckn4851
      @chuckn4851 Рік тому +7

      Exactly. You don't even have to be any sort of expert at it, even a general knowledge of how to better determine your location(s) can be a lifesaver

    • @Loralanthalas
      @Loralanthalas Рік тому +14

      People aren't even taught to pause and LOOK AROUND. ALLLLLLL AROUND. People are totally suprised at how different a trial looks on the way back. And god forbid you're around a bend and cant see THE ONE landmark AT THE ANGLE they picked at the beginning of the hike. -- the last time I went hiking with a group they literally stared heads down at the trail and did a military stride to our turning point. 5 got lost twice from not bothering to pay attention to the freaking rest of the damn group. - some people just shouldn't be allowed outside of high density city areas.

    • @seanhoffmeyer442
      @seanhoffmeyer442 Рік тому +3

      That’s called a resection and it’s super easy if you have a map and compass

  • @keborn6teen
    @keborn6teen 2 роки тому +63

    Wendigoon brought me to this channel and I’m glad he did.

  • @hollyjollyxmas
    @hollyjollyxmas 2 роки тому +103

    I don’t understand why the authorities didn’t subpoena the cell phone records, or at the very least, why didn’t his friends show them the text?!

    • @meowllison9414
      @meowllison9414 Рік тому +4

      This is exactly what I thought

    • @loridavis5699
      @loridavis5699 Рік тому +5

      Yeah i thought the same thing. Why is it…”unclear what the text message said”. And why did they suspect something was wrong when they read the text

    • @karenfriesen280
      @karenfriesen280 Рік тому +1

      This is the most unsettling thing to me about this story as well. What in the world did that text say?!

    • @dianauwu1312
      @dianauwu1312 Рік тому +3

      Be honest. Would you trust a cop with your phone?

    • @Valsorayu
      @Valsorayu Рік тому +1

      @@dianauwu1312 Yes, I don't live in America though...

  • @Χριζαϊων_Ζηνόβῐος

    Its hard to find missing 411 content like this. Very efficient, straight to the point, but also has humor but not too much. Its amazing that you do your own research as well. You're like a cool teacher that's very serious about the field of study but is eager to share his interests with others. You're doing great work. I could give more compliments but I'll stop there.

  • @ratman2113
    @ratman2113 2 роки тому +179

    I look away for one second and Aiden is pulling a Bible out of a pizza box, this is why I love this Chanel.

    • @Stellarm16
      @Stellarm16 2 роки тому +8

      I read this comment at the beginning of the video and was still caught off guard and confused. 😂

    • @sandrafaith
      @sandrafaith Рік тому +3

      I was just reading your comment & scrolled back up top in time to see this exact thing...

  • @ajjohn8729
    @ajjohn8729 2 роки тому +53

    The craziest part of this story is saying Subarus are easy to fix haha

    • @dankrhino
      @dankrhino Рік тому

      Right? That’s legit the first time I’ve heard someone say that😅

    • @2legit2Kwit
      @2legit2Kwit Рік тому

      So true

    • @bigwhitedoggo4989
      @bigwhitedoggo4989 Рік тому

      Me crying in Subaru lol

    • @tdg119
      @tdg119 7 місяців тому +1

      Wasn’t the first time he had issues with his Subaru either

  • @elmeelee4109
    @elmeelee4109 2 роки тому +95

    Just found your channel from Wendigoon. Love these videos, I subscribed immediately. I’m also a rural PA native lol ✌🏻

  • @KALioness910
    @KALioness910 2 роки тому +47

    Had me dying laughing on the onset with the subaru 😂

  • @Tye_-
    @Tye_- Рік тому +11

    I had a teacher named Mr, Greene and he actually had some pictures of the Mr. Greene in this video and on the first day of school instead of going over rules and stuff he told this story. I remember him saying that he likes to tell the story because he had the same last name as him and he also knew him at some point. I think that it’s really sweet and it made me sad when the school told him he couldn’t tell the story anymore.

  • @HorseOnTheLonePrairie
    @HorseOnTheLonePrairie 2 роки тому +52

    Great to see how big your channel is getting.
    By far you're my favorite channel dedicated to cryptids, conspiracies & mythology.
    Great video! Keep up the awesome content.

    • @TheLoreLodge
      @TheLoreLodge  2 роки тому +7

      Thank you! That means so much to us!

  • @charlenestrauss3539
    @charlenestrauss3539 2 роки тому +60

    I wanted to know about the skeleton they found? It can obviously solve an older missing person case.

    • @jimbob465
      @jimbob465 Рік тому +8

      Assuming they were ever reported missing

    • @jordanhicks5131
      @jordanhicks5131 Рік тому

      Kinda hard to identify just a skeleton with nothing else to go on, assuming it has viable DNA for testing, what are you going to compare it to?

    • @elvingearmasterirma7241
      @elvingearmasterirma7241 Рік тому +3

      ​@@jordanhicks5131 dental records

    • @jordanhicks5131
      @jordanhicks5131 Рік тому +3

      @@elvingearmasterirma7241 once again, what are you going to compare it to?
      You need the dental records of a SPECIFIC person to use dental records to identify a skeleton.
      Same problem as DNA, how are you going to compare the dental records against ALL the possible missing people? You cant.
      Costs too much, takes too much time away from more relevant cases, not a high enough chance of success. That's how you have to allocate resources, not go chasing a one in a million shot for no reason.

    • @elvingearmasterirma7241
      @elvingearmasterirma7241 Рік тому +1

      @@jordanhicks5131 Well its a start hey
      Im not the expert and Im sure someone who knows what theyre doing could make a facial reconstruction etc

  • @clararawr8177
    @clararawr8177 2 роки тому +22

    You triggered my sibling reflexes there, I just shouted "I'M WATCHING THAT!" despite being a grown ass woman who hasn't lived with siblings in near 10 years

  • @ejbecker8527
    @ejbecker8527 2 роки тому +27

    “ Subarus are pretty easy to fix” that’s the funniest shit I’ve heard All ray 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @hallievanoutryve3109
      @hallievanoutryve3109 2 роки тому +2

      Yea , I had a Suburu. To take care of the head gasket, my mechanic had to take the entire engine apart!

  • @Koolcag
    @Koolcag 11 місяців тому +4

    “Thos alligators did gods work” YOU HAD ME WHEEZING! Love your commentaries ❤

  • @seeinred
    @seeinred Рік тому +15

    9:33 You know, this moment was so sweet and brings a bit of levity to this topic. That was really nice.

  • @saintinnluvsew8813
    @saintinnluvsew8813 Рік тому +36

    Please do a video on Christopher Carlton Thompkins The strangest missing 411 story I think out of the lot. I honestly think this man straight up vanished . He disappeared while working with 3 other surveyors while the were walking in a line about 50 feet apart side my side with his coworkers. I’m surprised this isn’t the first story everyone talks about first when discussing Missing 411 cases…it is THAT BIZARRE

    • @brettmaddy9525
      @brettmaddy9525 Рік тому +5

      David Paulides has covered this case and it's definitely creepy!

    • @allykatt1908
      @allykatt1908 Рік тому +2

      @@brettmaddy9525 has he? I've made comments on him doing so how long ago did he cover it ? I do follow him

    • @allykatt1908
      @allykatt1908 Рік тому +4

      this case stays on my mind as well its so eerie n creepy I feel saddened bout his situation

    • @brettmaddy9525
      @brettmaddy9525 Рік тому +2

      @@allykatt1908 it was in 1 of his earlier cases.

    • @allykatt1908
      @allykatt1908 Рік тому +2

      @@brettmaddy9525 ok imma go check but he has cover so many cases ill look again

  • @tylerdunlap6787
    @tylerdunlap6787 Рік тому +22

    Just remember, 9 out of ten Subarus sold in the last ten years are still on the road!……. The other one made it home…

  • @paulmcadam6825
    @paulmcadam6825 2 роки тому +166

    I'm convinced that persons who hike alone have a death wish. Why would anyone enter the wilderness alone is totally beyond my understanding.

    • @stewartmeetball3417
      @stewartmeetball3417 2 роки тому +14

      Same. I think it's pure madness

    • @TheLoreLodge
      @TheLoreLodge  2 роки тому +73

      Depends on the difficulty of the trail but yeah, hiking whole ass mountains alone is just stupid

    • @JewBuscusLeBone
      @JewBuscusLeBone 2 роки тому +9

      This kinda talk makin the woods look like irl elden ring 👀

    • @hallievanoutryve3109
      @hallievanoutryve3109 2 роки тому +17

      Lots of trails that I hike are pretty busy. So it’s not like you are alone.

    • @BxBxProductions
      @BxBxProductions 2 роки тому +30

      did a 12+ hour solo R2R2R hike at the Grand Canyon in winter and nearly got off the path several times before something in my mind clicked and told me to stay on the path. there was one point where the trail 'ended' and reached a crossroad. I had to make a decision between making the ascent or following the easier, gentler path. Water was running low, and I was on a serious caloric deficit then. Decided to take the ascent and somehow found my way back on the trail. It was night then but thankfully it was a full moon so I could navigate without a flashlight.
      heading up the switchback, I took a rest and looked down at the general area where i would've gone had I chosen the easy way and realized it strayed further and away from the main path. It's stuff like that that gets you, combined with the exhaustion and the altitude. it messes with your senses.
      i'd say the only thing that kept me on edge and on high alert that day was the strange dream one of my family member had the previous night. she experienced sleep paralysis and saw an angry but not malicious Native American man floating above her trying to tell her something but before she could do anything, she awoke and screamed. My family treats dreams seriously and I kept that at the back of my mind the whole time I was doing the hike. The reason I chose to take the ascending path at the crossroad was simply because the entity that came to my family member in a dream the previous night, chose to float directly above her and it seemed oddly specific. I had a feeling it was guiding me to safety and it sure did.
      I didn't find out the Grand Canyon has quite a high rate of disappearances until much later and after doing this solo hike, I understand why.
      And no I don't have a death wish, all I wanted to do was touch the waters of the Colorado River.

  • @longshanks5531
    @longshanks5531 Рік тому +3

    Stayed in mammoth lakes for a week and hiked around, the terrain is no joke up there… it’s beautiful and deadly.

  • @steveculbert4039
    @steveculbert4039 Рік тому +9

    They were right about the dogs. I've been up in CA mountains with dogs who refused to keep climbing. Dogs, unlike bears and lions, rarely ascend high mountains.

  • @hurricaneofcats
    @hurricaneofcats Рік тому +4

    Re: The weird text messages and phone pings. As someone who has spent a decent amount of time hiking in mountains I can tell you that mountains can really mess with reception. Text messages can also get caught in the cell network and get delivered late if there's weird reception issues going on.

  • @diabelskiananas8679
    @diabelskiananas8679 Рік тому +8

    A third person?! How many more could he be hiding in The Lore Lodge?

  • @randomcoyote8807
    @randomcoyote8807 Рік тому +22

    Interesting that his friends didn't expect to see him or hear from him for a few days, but then a sudden text and they're calling the police. That must have been a very out of character text. If nothing sinister happened (kidnapping. serial killing, etc) and we're sticking with accidents, then maybe he suffered a concussion and sent out a weird text that made it obvious he wasn't in his right mind, and sparked them into action. With a concussion he may have done highly illogical or unlikely things that would make a search in "likely areas" less certain.
    And who the hell was the mystery skeleton from the 1970's?

    • @trawlins396
      @trawlins396 Рік тому

      That part is very strange.

    • @tdg119
      @tdg119 7 місяців тому +4

      This is his sister and guess I need to replay the episode. There was no strange text that initiated all this. His last text was the 16th and he wasn’t reported missing, officially, until end of month (fwiw the campground tried to file missing persons but their info was half wrong and the case was dismissed right away)

  • @Gigi.Maximoff
    @Gigi.Maximoff Рік тому +8

    I love these videos but a friendly suggestion, idk about others but I enjoy pictures throughout the video, even if you don’t have actual photos of the case, you could google photos of the area, some people will put in maps of the distances, and of course there should no doubt be photos of an active missing person. People might not know the story but seeing a face to the story could spark a remembrance of seeing him somewhere. But otherwise good video.

  • @JosiahSCooper
    @JosiahSCooper 2 роки тому +16

    I appreciate you for _mostly_ sticking to the story. I really hate when other content creators take advantage of their position and turn into an "influencer" with all of their unwanted, unasked for opinions. Not that you can't have them, but damn, I love being able to _just_ relax and not worry about what other people's theories are. Not that you have to placate, but, thank you.

    • @TheLoreLodge
      @TheLoreLodge  2 роки тому +8

      I try to save my theories for the end

  • @windangel7720
    @windangel7720 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for a not-annoying, to the point video about this disappearance. I live right down the mountain from Mammoth Lakes in Bishop, so this is close to home.

  • @StelmachsWorld
    @StelmachsWorld Рік тому +2

    You by far make the best missing persons content I’ve found on youtube. Always based in fact and never goes too far down the conspiracy road.

  • @lucindalaree9265
    @lucindalaree9265 Рік тому +5

    Look into the Karlie Guse missing girl from Bishop Ca. 45 minutes south of Mammoth Lakes

    • @t7274
      @t7274 Рік тому

      Karlie Guse is a memorable case. I feel like it's one of those cases where someone isn't saying something they should.

  • @countryboysims
    @countryboysims Рік тому +1

    I remember hearing about this story on the news and from people here in town. I live in the Lehigh valley now moving from western pa in 2016

  • @webinatic216
    @webinatic216 Рік тому +4

    Why does assuming a person with experience of something won't make mistakes? They would make mistakes as they get more experience. Self confidence kills the adventurer.

    • @kissedbysun2517
      @kissedbysun2517 Рік тому

      Even if you do everything right, crapolla happens. No one can expert themselves out of reality.

    • @tdg119
      @tdg119 7 місяців тому +1

      True, but if you knew his full background you would know how meticulous he was - not careless or overconfident

  • @highalpine7321
    @highalpine7321 Рік тому +3

    I look for him every mammoth trip

  • @tati8986
    @tati8986 Рік тому +2

    I lived in Mammoth the years during Matthew’s disappearance. It touched everyone in town and posters were around for years, I still running across them once in a while. It’s though by allot of locals that Matthew may have hitched to the Ritter Range just north of Mammoth Lakes. He had taken his ice axe. It’s thought he either was killed in an accident, or hitched with the wrong person. Mount Ritter is dangerous, with rock falls and crevasse someone can be lost forever in. There were locals who searched the Ritter range for Matt. The eastern Sierra is a dangerous place and people die every year. My condolences to Matthew’s family. We all were heartbroken for their loss.

    • @RyanRosario
      @RyanRosario 8 місяців тому +1

      I remember seeing brand new laminated posters even back in 2018, at Agnew Meadows. I don't think he would need to hitch to the trailheads for the Ritter Range if he was going to hike the eastern face. The Reds Meadow bus driver remembered talking with him the day before or so. I am guessing he took that bus the day he went missing too, as long as it was before 7ish pm.

  • @angela777K
    @angela777K Рік тому +1

    Ahhhh you got me with the intro. Subaru, the official car of Missing 411. Lol

  • @johnfortuna4190
    @johnfortuna4190 Рік тому +2

    I had to subscribe, your narration skills are spot on .

  • @jmbent77
    @jmbent77 Рік тому +2

    I have hiked over 6,000 miles of wilderness trail, thru hiking PCT and AT. I keep hearing kidnapping thrown around as a possible answer. Has there ever been a single incidence of a backcountry hiker being kidnapped? I mean a confirmed case? I did experience fear out alone in the wilderness, but I was often less fearful than in town surrounded by people.

  • @breckbilbrey4053
    @breckbilbrey4053 Рік тому +2

    This one's weird to me because this is my favorite camping area and My family is always camping at even that specific campground.

  • @suenoslucidos3899
    @suenoslucidos3899 Рік тому +12

    These are the ones that scare me because Michael had an ice axe, technically a weapon. That should be enough to level the playing field with literally anything that exists in the forest like bears, cougars, lynx, etc, what on earth could bring down a grown man with an ice axe besides maybe another human???

    • @dankrhino
      @dankrhino Рік тому +7

      A bear, cougar, even possibly a lynx. 😅

    • @suenoslucidos3899
      @suenoslucidos3899 Рік тому

      I want to agree with you but even a “weak” human with a weapon like an ice axe is still the most lethal predator in any terrain on earth, I doubt a bear or even a lynx would have a chance and not leave any sign like blood or struggle!

    • @animeruler9511
      @animeruler9511 Рік тому +3

      @@suenoslucidos3899 If he was attacked, there's a chance that an animal or human took him by surprise.

    • @nickyblue4866
      @nickyblue4866 Рік тому +13

      ​@@suenoslucidos3899 lmao an ice axe vs a bear or cougar... i put my money on the bear or cougar

    • @TheGlssr60
      @TheGlssr60 Рік тому +5

      Maybe the animal politely asked if it could "see his axe for a second" and then took him unawares and attacked him with it.

  • @jessehutchings
    @jessehutchings Рік тому +5

    Lol. The mid video scene with your friends was cute. I enjoyed that

  • @brettthewilder2338
    @brettthewilder2338 Рік тому +1

    The three seconds I confused Penn State for Penn had my respect for dude heightened. 😂

  • @kelseyarts4543
    @kelseyarts4543 2 роки тому +7

    oh my god the camera switch to correct your info scared the crap out of me LMAO that was awesome

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 Рік тому +2

    Portable chargers weren’t really common 10 years ago though were they?

  • @rolo8950
    @rolo8950 Рік тому +11

    I feel a lot of these people end up falling off a cliff or mountain side and that's why no one finds their bodies. Like unless rescuers are going over the side of a cliff like they won't find the body. Bones also look like ricks and sticks at a distance. 99 percent of these are natural occurrences and these people just got lazy and complacent and died. The other one percent die from weird shit.

    • @kissedbysun2517
      @kissedbysun2517 Рік тому +1

      In some places remains are located by watching vulture/ condor activity in the area the person went missing

  • @_Doom_20
    @_Doom_20 Рік тому +6

    My family and I invited him to our camp the day before he went missing, we played cards, had drinks ate food, really good person.
    He showed us all of those clippings he tore out of books and printed out,he told us he enjoys climbing with no safety net or line at all, that was just how experienced he really was and to hear it was just Such sad news when we all heard it.

  • @mr.halloween87
    @mr.halloween87 Рік тому +2

    Taking the trail less traveled sometimes means no trail at all! Talking about bushwacking. Going off trail. Usually I never know when I was lost! One time in Yellowstone our 80 mile hike was to finish in Mammoth Hot Springs however we ended up finding out that we were lost, lost when we saw a trail marker saying welcome to Montana. Had to hike out 40 unplanned miles through the the Gallatin Valley so we could hitchhike back to work at the Old Faithful Inn. 1980. Think this guy had just, plain bad luck! Simple ain't sexy. I'm considered an experienced hiker and a knowledgeable outdoorsman. Truth is that I was was just plain lucky.

    • @kissedbysun2517
      @kissedbysun2517 Рік тому +1

      Welcome to Montana. This is priceless. Thanks for sharing.

  • @chauvy5799
    @chauvy5799 11 місяців тому +2

    So i know you dont believe in aliens but we were camping in Custer National forrest (in SouthWest Montana) and i swear on everything in me we saw a ufo. It had to be like at least a football field long with circular green lights. It looked like it was barely moving until it went behind the mountain and lit the ENTIRE sky up. The camp below us saw it too and came up to where we were camping and we all just stood there till it went dark. The whole night i felt like i had something watchint me.
    All this national Forrest stuff made me think about it.

    • @janinejohnstone468
      @janinejohnstone468 Місяць тому

      Anything like that, one needs to say something like 'begone in the Name of Jesus Christ'. And say it fast. If you ever see another, you might not get more than a second's chance before you're the next 'missing person'!

    • @chauvy5799
      @chauvy5799 Місяць тому

      @janinejohnstone468 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm going to say this as nice as possible. Jesus is just the name of one of my cousins to Me. Yaewah was a profit. Not the son of God. Not everyone believes what you do. Quit shoving Christianity down peoples throats. Thanks.

    • @janinejohnstone468
      @janinejohnstone468 Місяць тому

      @@chauvy5799 You are not obligated to believe. I am obligated to tell you. If you understood the first thing about the Son of God, you wouldn't need to be informed of that.

    • @chauvy5799
      @chauvy5799 Місяць тому

      @janinejohnstone468 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you are not obligated to inform. You choose to try to shove your religion down people's throats but God forbid they even speak about their religion or being gay. Your "bible" says not to judge yet most of you think you are god

  • @Pie-ed6nh
    @Pie-ed6nh Рік тому +3

    An absolute goated intro

  • @robbiewright9573
    @robbiewright9573 Рік тому +4

    In my opinion, you are just as good a story teller as Mr. Ballen and David Paulides. And that's saying a lot in my humble opinion. Great research and delivery! A new subscriber....

  • @foxxmulder3564
    @foxxmulder3564 Рік тому +1

    Love your detail and how you weave the story. Short speech has taken over and it’s useful in some spots but my god let’s tell a long story around the fire

  • @zeroconsequences
    @zeroconsequences 5 місяців тому

    5 miles hiking even a strait and flat trail is more like 2 hours, especially if you've been walking all day and it's dark out. I'd guess more like 3-4 hours if there was elevation changes and difficult footing. He'd sooner see the sunrise than get back to camp.

  • @augustaylissaevans9088
    @augustaylissaevans9088 Рік тому +2

    yoooooo I just noticed your arm says "I have no fear" in scottish gaelic!

  • @insertjokehere212
    @insertjokehere212 Рік тому +2

    I noticed that LoreLodge looks like if Anakin Skywalker from episode 2 and Tomska had a baby, and now I can't unsee it.

    • @windangel7720
      @windangel7720 2 місяці тому

      😆 Actually he looks like a better looking version of my ex boyfriend.

  • @spookcityghouls
    @spookcityghouls Рік тому +1

    On what planet are Subis easy to fix? You gotta take the motor off the mounts and tilt it to one side or the other to change plugs, blown head gaskets galore, and they're AWD, so you're dealing with extra axles and transfer case.

  • @EvilHomer1973
    @EvilHomer1973 6 місяців тому

    Cell phone "pings" can be notoriously inaccurate. Sometimes being many yards, to miles off. The triangulation process can at times be problematic.

  • @2legit2Kwit
    @2legit2Kwit Рік тому +1

    Subaru’s aren’t easy to fix, my guy. Great channel and content 🎉❤

  • @iSpEcKz--
    @iSpEcKz-- Рік тому

    Binging your videos after seeing you on pka and am loving the content! Can't wait for more 🤘

  • @naomiseraphina9718
    @naomiseraphina9718 Рік тому +1

    Hello again. I have only discovered your channel fairly recently, and so have been watching my way through your content, and every now and then I feel moved to comment. All I have to say regarding this case, besides the obvious: that it is tragic, and that I am sincerely sorry for Matthew and for his loved ones, is this:
    Whenever I hear about a disappearance that has taken place anywhere near Kings Canyon, I am reminded of the most terrifying night of my life, which happened while backpacking in the Kings Canyon National Park. It was while camping in said park, after hiking about five miles from the road where we parked, that I encountered the most inexplicable and frightening entity that I have ever beheld. I was approached by a glowing, humanoid figure in the dead of night, and at its approach I felt certain that death was about to take me. The fact that I survived the encounter and the sudden and strange way that it began and ended have left me perplexed and haunted by the memory ever since.
    The encounter happened on the edge of a small lake, next to a huge boulder field... and while that meant nothing interesting to me at the time, (it happened back in 1992.) when I later learned about David Paulides' work, I began to suspect that the thing I encountered might actually have been one of the beings behind the many unsolved disappearances in the national parks.
    My survival was either due to the entity actually being harmless, despite its terrifying appearance, (or perhaps to its not being in a predatory mood at the time?) or else I was saved by a higher power. The only things I had going for me when I came face to face with it were: prayer, (most sincere and desperate) iron, (in the form of the bayonet that I was clutching in hopes of gaining a little moral courage,) and the willingness to fight back.
    Having witnessed what I witnessed, and having done so in an environment that eerily matches many of Paulides' profile points, I cannot help viewing Kings Canyon with deep foreboding and suspicion, especially when I hear of other people disappearing in its vicinity.
    This comment was a huge over-share, and I apologize for the space I've taken up here. I just feel that whenever it seems even remotely appropriate I ought to warn people to watch their backs in that neck of the woods.
    --N

    • @NanaBren
      @NanaBren 7 місяців тому

      Thank you for sharing your experience. I am naturally skeptical of any alien type life forms, but I believe that you are sincere. If they exist, we really don’t have a clue as to their intentions. I’m all for prater in paranormal situations and the cold iron bayonet could have been a deterrent for them as well as for fae creatures. I’m glad you survived the experience and shared it with us.

  • @wodensol5000
    @wodensol5000 Рік тому +1

    I had a similar experience in the exact same place around the same timeish, i think i went in summer of 2012? could have been 2013, i cant remember. But as im british, it was quite the change of scenery, and we definitely werent experienced or prepared for any sort of tomfoolery or crap that could have been worse.
    I was with my family coming down from yosemite towards mammoth lakes and our cars breaks failed going downhill. Its a miracle we didnt crash or die. I still cant remember how my dad managed to bring the car to a stop. This was a rented vehicle too, although a people carrier type chrysler i believe. We too ended up staying in a motel in mammoth lakes, i believe we were towed there but i cant remember. Beautiful place though. We came across a medium sized bear in yosemite too. Shit myself. Not literally but yeah. RIP this man who had the balls to hike in a place like that.

  • @lisatrejo6088
    @lisatrejo6088 5 місяців тому

    I vacation every year with my family at mammoth lakes and i always think about Matthew. I hope they find him 😢

  • @kristinsevin
    @kristinsevin Рік тому

    Lol i thoroughly enjoy the friendship of the two aidens 😅! One of my favorite things in these videos

  • @KaeYoss
    @KaeYoss 2 роки тому +6

    Mathematics Green was a Matthew Teacher. Wait.

  • @alexaliona
    @alexaliona Рік тому +7

    i grew up with mammoth lakes practically in my backyard, and i distantly remember my grandparents mentioning this guy going missing. now that i know a lot more abt missing411 stuff than i did when i was like 11 i'm not surprised inyo valley/mammoth lakes is a bit of a hotspot for these cases- if you don't know what you're doing or you're unprepared, there's a chance you won't come back. what does surprise me is how the case was handled at all- usually S&R in that area is really on top of cases like this. i get the not having a concrete area for the search, but they could've spread the word a bit more than it seems they did.

    • @tdg119
      @tdg119 7 місяців тому

      This is his sister; I think timing had a lot to do with it.

  • @fernmiranda
    @fernmiranda 2 роки тому +6

    Faeries. It’s all faeries.

    • @windangel7720
      @windangel7720 2 місяці тому

      The Paiute native tribe of the area has a legend about flesh eating dwarves that reside in these mountains. 😮

  • @imverytired1164
    @imverytired1164 Рік тому +7

    I know it was just brought up as a possibility in this video, but it might be an idea to talk about mountain lions and how they generally act. Since It seems like whenever they're brought up by others, they're always seeming talking about them as if they're magical unknown creatures.
    I know that probably sounds obvious and maybe stupid, but it just feels like at times people forget that while mountain lions can be mean little shits that they're also rather lazy shits all the same. So if it ever comes into question if an experienced with the outdoors was attacked, it's just the wildest question to even bring up in my humble opinion. Since you're not only asking why someone experienced walked straight into their territory of a self regulating species, you're also questioning why the person in question had no clue or idea on how to deal with a cougar. Since if they fail to ambush you, you've pretty much taken all the wind out of their sails to do anything unless you pretty much just bend over and present yourself as the most submissive man/woman to exist.
    Anyway yeah didn't even have much of a place in this video, just felt like randomly ranting into the void on how some people seem to talk about people/animals. Since many of their arguments can be summed up to "Yes I believe this man/woman went full retard before going into the woods, and that's my leading theory."

  • @brianclingenpeel5123
    @brianclingenpeel5123 2 місяці тому

    Im new to the channel and i really like it. But these earlier videos are different lol. Like the Tom messick documentary thing, and his correction scene in this one. Hahaha.

  • @tuchehstone
    @tuchehstone Рік тому +1

    FYI-
    It's called "Mammoth Mountain". This is a little tip from an Eastern Sierra local. 😉

  • @derekhughes8318
    @derekhughes8318 Рік тому +1

    Great video 👍🙂

  • @canlex
    @canlex Рік тому +1

    9:09 this girl scared the shit out of me..

  • @kathymonnin9818
    @kathymonnin9818 Рік тому

    I do love your PEANUT GALLERY's help!

  • @halliesteck7864
    @halliesteck7864 Рік тому

    I’m from Franklin County PA, never heard of this guy or his disappearance! My family knew the greenes tho!

  • @prjndigo
    @prjndigo Рік тому +1

    I think we can largely rule-out kidnapping... after twilight on a mountain in the dark isn't a good place to kidnap someone... that's right up there with doing burgleries while the carpet fitters are installing the new stairs.

  • @UrbanNinja26
    @UrbanNinja26 2 роки тому

    Penn State Alumni here, great videos man

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 Рік тому +1

    What is the supposed significance of granite?

  • @cadence4527
    @cadence4527 Рік тому +3

    A skeleton in that region being from someone who died in the 70s or 80s. I don’t buy that. I’ve watched my local squirrels (2 fox squirrels, 2 eastern gray squirrels and two western gray squirrels) eat through two whole cow femurs in less than a month. Out there where that skeleton was found, there are a lot more rodent. The number of scavengers would have made quick work of the soft tissues. It wouldn’t have taken two decades to reduce that body to nothing. Unless it had been properly buried or trapped in ice for two decades, otherwise that was definitely a more recent death. They need to take another look at that skeleton.

    • @kissedbysun2517
      @kissedbysun2517 Рік тому

      Yeah, probably didn't find anything like a full skeleton, at least I've never found one in the woods. Probably just a few gnawed bones and a piece of the skull. It's crazy how fast the critters take care of things

  • @shanec3098
    @shanec3098 10 днів тому

    Hank Green - Science
    John Green - History
    Matthew Green - Math

  • @mayav927
    @mayav927 Рік тому

    Whoa I didn’t know you went to PSU! I’m graduating from here in the spring :)

  • @TheHikeChoseMe
    @TheHikeChoseMe Рік тому +1

    i drive a subaru, i feel called out

  • @jamesstreet228
    @jamesstreet228 Рік тому +1

    Why are you using David Paulides title (missing 411) for this channel?

  • @passiveaggressiveflamingo6851
    @passiveaggressiveflamingo6851 21 день тому

    It’s July but he took an ice axe and crampons. I wish we knew what pages he’d torn out so we could see the caves he probably tried to spelunk

  • @meganmangold1074
    @meganmangold1074 9 місяців тому

    I think I am happy with height of our mountains on the east coast. I will take Clingmans Dome anyday over taller windier, snowier mountains.

  • @p.k.5455
    @p.k.5455 Рік тому +1

    Im from just outside Da Burgh...Pittsburgh i mean...lol...sorry if yinz didn't get that!

  • @haleyrobinson9837
    @haleyrobinson9837 Рік тому

    good video keep up work

  • @dehydratedculture9126
    @dehydratedculture9126 Рік тому +1

    If a death warrants a death…. 🐊

  • @VlntSczo
    @VlntSczo Рік тому +1

    Easy to fix? Have you ever worked on a flat 4? Buddy it’s one of the hardest engines to work on.

  • @saberwoods1219
    @saberwoods1219 2 роки тому +2

    you should do fresno nightcrawlers next

  • @koncehal
    @koncehal 2 роки тому +2

    Love the videos mah dude! Keep on uploading more stories :)

  • @HistoryDaddy
    @HistoryDaddy 2 роки тому +12

    Ok, but Mammoth Lakes is a cool name

    • @ryanwebb3945
      @ryanwebb3945 2 роки тому +5

      It’s beautiful out there, one of the highest mountain ranges in America is over there (Mt Whitney) at 14,000 or so feet. And hot springs that you can actually get in at certain times of the year. And the town is really nice too, only thing I can say is the bears are a problem. I actually saw a bear walking around in a parking lot casually over there.

  • @Fandomsaremylifee
    @Fandomsaremylifee Рік тому

    PA represent!! I’ve been to some of the towns mentioned here lol

  • @stephaniecase4209
    @stephaniecase4209 6 місяців тому

    I just got done watching the Gabby case that you did and I am really moved by how mad you are at the laundrys. I find myself really mad about it as well. It is just sketchy on all the details.

  • @ccw2613
    @ccw2613 Рік тому +2

    He could have dropped his phone and fallen going after it. I hope they tan DNA tests on the skeleton they found. Even if it's not him their could be people looking for that person.

  • @RyanRosario
    @RyanRosario 8 місяців тому

    Police were notified about Matt sooner. The campground host was concerned because he hadn't paid the fee.

  • @MakeshiftMartyr
    @MakeshiftMartyr Рік тому

    My family is from the state college area (further north) and yeah there is absolutely nothing to do.