Steve is political but you dont see the subtleties. Example: he doesnt like cops because 99% of his videos with cops are negative. There are others too..
@@luigivincenz3843 99% of his cop videos are negative because positive police interactions are not news worthy There’s no story in “cop respects citizen’s rights and let’s him off with a warning”
When US Senator Rand Paul was attacked a couple of years ago at his home in Kentucky, his attacker was tried in state court and got a very lenient sentence. According to the law you read , it would seem that the attacker should have been tired in Federal court.
The statute applies for attempts made because of their official duties past or future. IIRC, the guy attacked him in a neighbor dispute situation. So it had nothing to do with his job, so the federal statute doesn't apply.
The worst thing anyone can do right now is assume or accept early reports. This will all have to be worked out. Pray for the victims who were hurt and died.
@@redneckcoder Got proof? Links? Something specific to google by? Or is this a conspiracy theory like how the lizards rule earth from the dark side of the moon, which is fake because the earth is flat, etc craziness.
In my job I occasionally worked in proximity to a US President. Every building within 500 meters, every roof top, every window, every access to the area were physically attended by Secret Service Agents & all persons within that proximity were under intense surveilance from numerous positions, even airborne in helicopters. Nobody possibly gone unnoticed on a rooftop within 500 meters of the President under Secret Service protection. Nobody.
You can hear one of them saying what do we do? A few of them and I don't want to be political I would say approximately three of them looked pretty lost.
I recall the state trying to prosecute FBI agents after Ruby Ridge and the Feds saying Federal issue only the FBI is not accountable to the state's criminal justice system so this could an interesting process to watch.
The gunman was sighted and reported to local police several minutes before the first shot.. appalling.. I would suspect that every cop has a radio and the word 'gun' probably takes 1 second to say at most..
What concerns me most is. How was that young man able to get that close. I lived in Ford City, which is about 25 miles from Butler. And I am quite familiar with the fairgrounds, and I find it inconceivable that there was not better security
If you think the Secret Service has the staffing and ability to secure every single location and aren't at best able to secure some while observing others when you can then you have a very naïve view on security. Especially given just because they're secret service doesn't mean they're allowed access to all properties in the surrounding area.
@@KuariThunderclaw W Bush came to state police headquarters when I worked there. My section was confined to our office building while he was there and one of the first things they did was secure the roof accesses.
The secret service most certainly did an amazing job. Not amazingly good; not amazingly effective at their stated purpose; not amazingly capable; but certainly amazing. I was amazed at how thoroughly they inspired doubts and conspiracy theories about their principles and their allegiance to their principal.
The first story I saw on this incident showed an aerial photo of the site, with an arrow pointing to the shooter’s location and another to the stage where Trump was standing. Moving back in time before the incident to the most elementary evaluation of this location, it is inconceivable that a roof with an unobstructed view above the stage would not be at least under constant observation, with access to it denied, and simple prudence dictating that it be occupied by security personnel. The world wonders….
Hasn't anyone at the Secret Service read any of Jack Carr's books?!? That "perimeter" was a small, under protected mess. And the Agents, on the ground, looked like they had never practiced an 'extraction under fire' before. WTH
well when they have to actually be used... only one that looked like they didnt get the memo was the girl and actually tried to get in the way of anything more coming his way
@@Xidification do you really think they have the best of the best of the best watching a former president that keeps rolling through his security because of the trouble he causes with them makes them leave to take another position?
Trump has four / pretty soon 5 adult children and a wife and they've all got SS detail. Add on top he goes to political rallies with hundreds of people in every podunk open-air fairgrounds every damn week. Likely he's stretched his detail further and thinner than any other ex-president in history.
@@nunyabidness674Military qual ranges are 50-300 meters. 150 is pretty darn easy with iron sights. Wind at that distance doesn't do a whole lot either. It could drift a round, maybe 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch with 10 mph.
Fed also investigated Trump and was weaponized against him. Trumps SS detail was cut 50% by Biden. SS chief for months has been begging for the required manpower to properly secure Trump. on a side not at Biden's last convention Biden stated ".... it is time to put Trump in the crosshairs.." and now some one did.
If I had to guess, because the mechanisms which cause those two outcomes are distinct in useful ways for normal cases, and in the extremes, there's no functional difference between those outcomes, so there's no need to worry about the weird/pointless distinction.
I recall there was a dispute between the city of Dallas and the FBI about who had jurisdiction to investigate and perform the autopsy on President John F. Kennedy in 1963
@@CheZfrmdaWestWisc Yes. Had Oswald not been killed himself, he would have been tried in a Texas court for murder. There was no federal law against assassinating the president at the time.
Well done video Steve. We do need people that are influencing our nation to act calmly, rationally, with forethought, and encourage civility at this time.
Now I see why. I even noticed Steve avoiding saying Mr Trump’s name. He did say it a minimal number of times. Steve even went on to say “the candidate”.
After seeing how open the venue was there’s no excuse for those buildings not being covered by Secret Service. It appears that they deliberately turned a blind eye on the situation.
Often, a place like those rooftops would be watched by the State Police. The Secret Service is the lead agency for the protection of a POTUS candidate and events but local agencies would coordinate and provide manpower.
Candidates and former presidents have way fewer agents assigned to them than presidents. It may be that the local police had to be in charge of covering some parts of security, due to manpower. I don't know. Do you actually know either though? Clearly someone dropped the ball, but it's not clear if it's the SS
@@gadget58 No different than any other republicans. No one does their job, including the Supreme Court. Why should the Secret Service work for their pay.
Retired Federal Agent here. Your video is a good summary of Federal Law and the issue of jurisdiction. Generally, murders, assaults, etc. are prosecuted by the state unless as you point out specifically addressed as a Federal Crime. The statue states that its a crime such as when it involves a current or former government employee, family member, or witness, or that it becomes a Federal crime if the murder, assault, threat is in furtherance of another crime which is prosecutable by the Federal Government (such as a drug deal or terrorism), or if the crime is committed on Federal land, i.e. an Indian Reservation, a National Park, or a Federal Facility, or if the Federal Government has sole jurisdiction such as on an Airplane, Ship, or in international waters, or to an American Citizen, resident, or national in a foreign country, where there are other jurisdictional issues.. In many cases there are duel/overlapping jurisdictions, in these cases the Federal Governments jurisdiction takes precedence over the State or Local jurisdiction. However, some times the Federal government will decline to prosecute, or cede prosecution to a local jurisdiction for various reasons, and this happens quite a bit. The other victims of the rally could be seen as falling under Federal law do to the nature of the originating crime, and assassination attempt of a former President, or for a variety of other reasons, but the state can still investigate and even charge people if, the Federal government cedes jurisdiction, or the state has a law that was violated that the Federal government does not have. State law is different than Federal Law, even when very similar, in many way and may have additional crimes or thresholds for crimes, penalties, and even privilege and subpoena powers.
Conspiracy theorist are still trying to figure out JFK. The rest of us know what happened. By the way, people make their living pushing JFK conspiracy theories.
@@kathleenmccrory9883 Yes and no. The government has "figured it out". That said, those records are sealed till everyone who was alive at the time, even if just born, has passed.
@mrtechie6810 black roof would provide better concealment, that's the point. Less concealment means he definitely should have easily been spotted by security detail.
I agree, don't get political. I enjoy non-political channels as entertainment because they are non-political. I also enjoy very political channels for the opposite reason. I myself am very in tune with the politics, and stay that way every year, regardless if it's election year or not. That being said, I take breaks from it by watching channels I know wont be speaking about politics, like yours. There are a couple of sailing VLOGS that I no longer follow because they began to inject politics into their content, one to the left and the other to the right. Even though I agree with one of their points of view, I no longer watch either channel because I view their content as an escape, and they've both ruined it for me. I'm glad that you've recognized this, and have kept your channel neutral by not speaking about the politics. Thank you.
I stopped watching "The Legal Eagle" Channel because his politics is injected and clouds his legal analysis in many cases, he is very blatant about it.
Idk, just saying, in many ways I appreciate the apolitical approach to this. It's pretty refreshing, and I'm glad to see a take on an otherwise kinda uncovered aspect of this situation.
A few years ago when the attempt was made on Gabrielle Giffords, Loughner was only charged with the federal charges and not with the state crimes. The Pima County prosecutor spoke with the families and they decided to not charge him with the civilian deaths since there is no statute of limitations for in Arizona for Murder. The idea was if something went wrong with the federal prosecution and he was going to walk Pima county could always bring back the state charges.
Become? Things weren't better in the judicial system in the past. You just didn't know about the level of abuse and corruption do to the lack of camera's everywhere.
@@CeanStrauss I’ve lived thru and personally experienced corruption by law enforcement. Nobody had a camera capturing the abuse . Thousands if not millions of people have been abused by people of so called authority . I never seen so much of this political bs as they have treated Former President Trump.
OK, the Secret Service did their job once the gun fire started, however, how is it the Secret Service didn't prevent a young man with a rifle from getting on the roof of a building only a few hundred yards from a Presidential candidate? This was NOT downtown Dallas, this was a fair grounds, with more grassy, open areas than buildings. I'm NOT saying the Secret Service screwed up, but on the other hand I'm not willing to say the Secret Service did a "great" job in this situation. I'm sure the FBI will do their investigation, and I'm equally sure they will be reluctant to cast disparity upon their fellow Federal employees.
@rdizzy1 The double-edged sword of that Official Act ruling. (Not that I believe Joe ordered it, but I do so enjoy bringing this up when certain people are floating "Biden ordered it!" theories.)
@@rdizzy1 No I meant that the Director of CIA is specifically mentioned in the statute separately from all other heads of executive agencies. It's strange.
@@rdizzy1that's not the mo. If the CIA wanted to commit a domestic assassination they'd likely solicit MI5, Mossad or a similar such organization. And those organizations would likely contract organized crime.
As I recall, when JFK was killed, the Dallas PD was initially in charge. There being no Federal Statute on assassination at the time. There were some critics of the Dallas PD at the time. The whole Jack Ruby thing. Anyway, I believe the Federal legislation resulted from the JFK assassination events.
I looked it up. The laws Steve is citing go back to the '40s at least. But I didn't look far enough to see what they looked like in 1963 so maybe it was ambiguous.
@@blairhoughton7918 I am working from memory. I was only in Jr. High. But I remember a lot of discussion over jurisdiction. Dallas PD definitely held Oswald in custody of course. He was never in Federal Custody. And I believe there was some controversy over JFK’s body, and who had charge of it. My recollection was that the Secret Service just took it and no one stopped them. Part of the issue may have been FBI authority in the case. FBI Authority was much more narrowly defined at one time. People were skeptical of a federal police force, believing the Constitution left law enforcement to the states. It may have been that the federal law was in place but that the FBI didn’t have jurisdiction over the case. The FBI, like any Federal Agency, has had lots of Mission Creep since then.
This investigation definitely needs to be done by an independent impartial 3rd party and needs full transparency to the public. No more bullshit classification and hiding information from citizens.
Agreed, but thats as likely to happen as politicians voting to restrict their own power. I think we all know why this happened, and why it was allowed to happen.
It doesn't matter who investigates it or how transparent the investigation is, Trumpists will believe anything their leader says. So if Trump blames Biden they will believe Biden ordered it. It has been nearly 4 years and about 30% of Americans still believe the election was stolen, because Trump keeps insisting it was stolen, with no proof.
Follow up related question: Jurisdiction on the alleged carjacking/robery attempt (gone pretty wrong) of a sitting Supreme Court Justice's SECURITY DETAIL, since I think they were federal agents. And to be clear, I'm talking about Justice Sotomayor, but I like the way this video kept names out of things (only reason I'm clarifying here is since I'm the one asking the question, not making the video)
Thank you for your timely, contemporaneous update. Many with a platform will say they don't want to comment until "all the facts are in," but there are always existing truths--such as laws--that can certainly be shared today, which is what you are doing. So thank you for not hesitating.
As a former microbrewery owner, you need a brewers notice issued by the TTB to purchase materials such as barley and sugar in more than nominal quantities. The brewer suppliers must track all sales. It’s possible to circumvent the reporting but you can still be caught, which obviously happened in this case. With widespread pot legalization including being allowed to grow your own for personal use, this law is increasingly untenable. Also before the increasingly sophisticated government tracking it was easier to home distill.
im still confused how the gunman was able to get a gun in. back in 2020 when trump had an event in my hometown, my work just so happened to be a block behind the stadium trump was in, and there were police yelling at me telling me until i moved several streets away. made me late for work that day, still salty about it
He was outside of the fenced in rally, on the other side, near the tree line. He used a ladder to get on the roof of that building. Ss was on a building inside the rally
@@sherrolmohn8686They should have set up a perimeter way bigger than what they had. Maybe they did and somebody just didn't enforce it. Maybe they delegated that to local LE. Whoever chose this site with the infinite sightlines is going to have some splainin to do as well. And if Trump waved off _any_ security provisions that should exonerate all of the protectors.
Steve, thanks for mentioning the man who was excecated in Michigan. I remember reading about that some years back. Interesting story. I believe it was in the 1930s.
The roof was unprotected (an unlikely, non-random event) and the gunman knew to go to the unprotected roof (an unlikely non-random event). My leg is wet and there ain't a cloud in the sky.
Whoever told you this is not being honest. I'm guessing this is a response to the horribly inaccurate reporting on the immunity ruling... like Sotomayor completely misinterpreting Article 1, Section 3, Clause 7 of the constitution in her dissenting opinion. Either she's unqualified or she knows she's lying; I can't tell which and I don't know which is worse.
@@SomeGuyFromUtah every scotus, pre being so, is queried about roe v wade. every one of them gave roe v wade accolades, and praises. what happened? did they lie then? or now?
@@jerryjerry7561 Roe V. Wade and that whole topic is such an impossible thing to rule on. There's no clear metric to decide it one way or the other. If a pregnant woman is murder, it counts as 2 deaths, but there's also definitely a need for rights regarding your own body and deciding when it's not just your body anymore is more of a moral/religious question than a legal question. I don't think it's completely unreasonable to defer this to the states to decide for themselves.
@@SomeGuyFromUtah clear metric for 50 years genius. what happened? trump? go look up "we dont use American banks, we get all the funding we need out of russia" bought and paid for! republican congress knew!
Steve, thank your for your credible reporting. You are the only person whose video I have watched on the topic because I have watched your videos long enough to know that you make every effort to report accurately, to not add in irrelevant misinformation or blatantly misleading speculation, and still add relevant legal information to the event. Even when it is shocking national event whose full details will likely not be known for at least 6 months. Your honesty and integrity is refreshing and is greatly appreciated.
I had always assumed that you were on the conservative side, but imagine that you didn’t wanna alienate anybody else on UA-cam… But thank you for making this. It solidifies my opinion of you.
I watched just enough to understand what happened. The opinions and speculations that follow the event are of no interest. When they release the facts is what matters.
It's my understanding and correct me if I'm mistaken it was the aftermath of the tragedy of JFK that there was disagreement on who had jurisdiction to investigate and prosocute. Fifty states equals fifty sets of laws. God bless everyone hurt in these events of the last day.
Thank you for not being political! Even if you would be on “my side” it is refreshing to be able to watch without it devolving into politics. There are a few channels I watch that take this approach and they are my go to channels when looking for content.
Tough shit. Shouldn't have made presidents de-facto unaccountable under the law through a supreme court ruling. NO ONE should be allowed that much power, ever, and anyone who tries to take it? As I said, tough shit.
@@oklahomahank2378 Yeah, it would be jurisdiction of the country in question (unless, for example, it happened on a US military base or US Consulate within the borders of another country) - but it would be so incredibly politically charged if they then refused full participation of our own investigating agencies (led by FBI I'm sure) it could even have military consequences.
"It looks like the Secret Service did an amazing job..."
Steve, is the Secret Service in the room with us now? Blink twice if you can see them.
You won't see them, but they see you.
Yeah really.
Ss has no pr?
Back seat driving is fun and easy.
@@veramae4098 It's called common sense.
Yep.
I love it that steve does his best to be politically neutral and stick to facts and explanations.
Not easy to do.
Agree. Its a delicate subject.
Steve is political but you dont see the subtleties. Example: he doesnt like cops because 99% of his videos with cops are negative. There are others too..
@@luigivincenz3843 99% of his cop videos are negative because positive police interactions are not news worthy
There’s no story in “cop respects citizen’s rights and let’s him off with a warning”
@@luigivincenz3843
Bold to assume that I don't see the subtleties.
the mayor of Dalton has better security
lol
Well she serves them in private ways. One is her boyfriend
Hood Security. They know all the alleys.
LOL! funny but close to true.
No 5ft women in her security detail.
Steve,
I really appreciate the information without the political slant. We need much more information that allows us to think for ourselves.
When US Senator Rand Paul was attacked a couple of years ago at his home in Kentucky, his attacker was tried in state court and got a very lenient sentence. According to the law you read , it would seem that the attacker should have been tired in Federal court.
It’s joint jurisdiction. Both can prosecute.
Maybe the law changed. Nancy Pelosi husband's attacker was charged with a federal crime
"Separate Sovereigns"- either or both have jurisdiction.
The statute applies for attempts made because of their official duties past or future. IIRC, the guy attacked him in a neighbor dispute situation. So it had nothing to do with his job, so the federal statute doesn't apply.
Wow! Great point............👍👍👍👍👍👍
I'm sure if he had known it was prohibited, he wouldn't have tried it.
Lmao
Yeah. Who did that guy think he was? A former president?!
Yeah kinda like how those Gun Free zones work
If Congress would just pass A STRONGER LAW then it would work. 😮
@@HomesickforAlaska are you being sarcastic?
The worst thing anyone can do right now is assume or accept early reports. This will all have to be worked out. Pray for the victims who were hurt and died.
Thank you for being a voice of reason and compassion!
This is so very true.
What many of us want to know is, how did the guy get on the building 400 feet away with a rifle? How was that locale not secured prior?
@@redneckcoder Got proof? Links? Something specific to google by? Or is this a conspiracy theory like how the lizards rule earth from the dark side of the moon, which is fake because the earth is flat, etc craziness.
You can't secure private buildings you don't own. "The president is in the area so we've come to search your home/office" would get you laughed at.
That’s a bunch of BS. He gets the same resources that every ex president gets. 🙄
In my job I occasionally worked in proximity to a US President. Every building within 500 meters, every roof top, every window, every access to the area were physically attended by Secret Service Agents & all persons within that proximity were under intense surveilance from numerous positions, even airborne in helicopters. Nobody possibly gone unnoticed on a rooftop within 500 meters of the President under Secret Service protection. Nobody.
@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket
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Can we go back to the days of giving respect to someone who speaks this way? You can have opinions and still be calm and rational about it.
What a horrible job by the Secret Service. Innocent people died because they couldn't keep an eye on nearby rooftops?
Kind of suspicious isn't it.
You can hear one of them saying what do we do? A few of them and I don't want to be political I would say approximately three of them looked pretty lost.
When Bush jr was Pres . They windows and rooftops for 2 miles around we're covered and monitored .
Couldn't or wouldn't ?
@@brandexample1776if Biden told them to leave holes in the security he has immunity for doing so thanks to Trump
I don’t watch the news. My life is nice and calm
Funny I found the same thing was true when I turned off my cable ten years ago when I decided to go to grad school.
Attempted murder is illegal???????
Well this was about the jurisdiction, but yeah I was a little confused about the title too. 😅
Suprise.
Yeah, it is hard to believe, but it is true.
It's not always a federal crime, is it?
Well, except in Seattle and Chicago apparently.
I recall the state trying to prosecute FBI agents after Ruby Ridge and the Feds saying Federal issue only the FBI is not accountable to the state's criminal justice system so this could an interesting process to watch.
but the fbi got sued any you need to see the document
@@doughinkley8796 qualified immunity
Thank you Steve for being bipartisan and accurate with explaining legal concepts.
The gunman was sighted and reported to local police several minutes before the first shot.. appalling.. I would suspect that every cop has a radio and the word 'gun' probably takes 1 second to say at most..
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What concerns me most is. How was that young man able to get that close. I lived in Ford City, which is about 25 miles from Butler. And I am quite familiar with the fairgrounds, and I find it inconceivable that there was not better security
"inconceivable"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." [grin]
@richardlongman5602 nice reference 👌
i'm about a hour away from butler trump do not need to run
@@jimkelly49he should walk then? 🙂 maybe just walk away...
So not surprised this happened. I've been saying it for months. Now if I could just predict the winning Powerball numbers.
Those are odds aren't exactly two to one, much less 100%
7 - 11 - 27- 32 - 63 - ?
It was a major lapse in Secret Service on leaving an open rooftop unsecured. It's either incompetence or deliberate malice, you be the judge.
If you think the Secret Service has the staffing and ability to secure every single location and aren't at best able to secure some while observing others when you can then you have a very naïve view on security. Especially given just because they're secret service doesn't mean they're allowed access to all properties in the surrounding area.
@@KuariThunderclaw This is AFTER Secret Service deny Trump Campaign request for more protection. So incompetence or malice?
@@KuariThunderclaw W Bush came to state police headquarters when I worked there. My section was confined to our office building while he was there and one of the first things they did was secure the roof accesses.
@@wingracer1614 Read carefully what you just said... you worked at a state police headquarters. What does that tell you? Think very carefully.
@@dyingearth Given the limited number of staff that have many other people they need to protect? Neither.
@stevelehto, THANK YOU for NOT making this political! I’ve been enjoying your back-log of videos and will continue to. Take care!
Amazing job by secret service!? That’s laughable.
slow and uncoordinated. basically asleep at the switch
Relax, Trump survived
@@default_doppelgangeronly because he missed
@@Chroniclerope God works in mysterious ways
The secret service most certainly did an amazing job. Not amazingly good; not amazingly effective at their stated purpose; not amazingly capable; but certainly amazing. I was amazed at how thoroughly they inspired doubts and conspiracy theories about their principles and their allegiance to their principal.
So when you say something like “when you see a member of that cabinet you get a crowd and you get in thier face” you’re committing a felony?
Maxine Waters.
She was also quoted as saying, "I'm gonna off him myself".
Sorry cupcake. Getting “in someone’s face” is freedom of speech.
@@xiaoka Actually, it's not.
@@xiaoka saying it FOS, doing it is not.
The first story I saw on this incident showed an aerial photo of the site, with an arrow pointing to the shooter’s location and another to the stage where Trump was standing. Moving back in time before the incident to the most elementary evaluation of this location, it is inconceivable that a roof with an unobstructed view above the stage would not be at least under constant observation, with access to it denied, and simple prudence dictating that it be occupied by security personnel. The world wonders….
Hasn't anyone at the Secret Service read any of Jack Carr's books?!? That "perimeter" was a small, under protected mess. And the Agents, on the ground, looked like they had never practiced an 'extraction under fire' before. WTH
well when they have to actually be used... only one that looked like they didnt get the memo was the girl and actually tried to get in the way of anything more coming his way
I know, right? I know teenagers who could have done a better job because they've watched a few movies.
@@Xidification do you really think they have the best of the best of the best watching a former president that keeps rolling through his security because of the trouble he causes with them makes them leave to take another position?
@@travisfabel8040 Not under Biden, no.
@@travisfabel8040 I'm having similar thoughts, Service assigned the 'just finished training last month' people so they can get some experience
Not surprising when you take into account former presidents retain Secret Service protection for life.
Trump has four / pretty soon 5 adult children and a wife and they've all got SS detail. Add on top he goes to political rallies with hundreds of people in every podunk open-air fairgrounds every damn week. Likely he's stretched his detail further and thinner than any other ex-president in history.
Trump better stick with his personal security. The SS failed or looked the other way, better check their party affiliation
One Secret Service agent to another: "What the hell just happened there?!?!"
Partners reply: "Wind kicked up..."
Acorns ..
At 150 yards, wind is very negligible unless it's really strong and crosswind. 150 yards is the "easy" distance at the military rifle ranges.
@@Stomper97lmao I remember that incident
@@kindredsoul79 Tell us you've not been to a Military operated range without telling us you've not been to a Military operated range...
@@nunyabidness674Military qual ranges are 50-300 meters. 150 is pretty darn easy with iron sights. Wind at that distance doesn't do a whole lot either. It could drift a round, maybe 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch with 10 mph.
The Feds will investigate themselves. What a joke!
Who would you assign?
Fed also investigated Trump and was weaponized against him. Trumps SS detail was cut 50% by Biden. SS chief for months has been begging for the required manpower to properly secure Trump. on a side not at Biden's last convention Biden stated ".... it is time to put Trump in the crosshairs.." and now some one did.
@@blairhoughton7918 Butler county sheriff would probably be a safe choice to avoid any conflict of interest.
@@blairhoughton7918 definitely an outside agency maybe even British!
@@blairhoughton7918 Special prosecutor.
How of the FBI going to investigate themselves?
About as throughly when cops investigate themselves
Steve me being a Canadian i cannot comprehend these ridiculous sentences where a person gets 450 years why not just say life with no chance of parole
remember they release some in 5 years frequently.
Life in some states doesn't mean life? 25-50 years in some states is life in others it is that you never get out of prison
Separate charges are sentenced individually. If the sentences are consecutive, you just add them up.
As someone born here, you are not alone in being confused. Lots of legalities and technicalities behind it, but that doesn't mean it makes sense.
If I had to guess, because the mechanisms which cause those two outcomes are distinct in useful ways for normal cases, and in the extremes, there's no functional difference between those outcomes, so there's no need to worry about the weird/pointless distinction.
I recall there was a dispute between the city of Dallas and the FBI about who had jurisdiction to investigate and perform the autopsy on President John F. Kennedy in 1963
CIA had JFK assassinated.. be nice to know why. Why was Supposed to have been released in 2013 or was it 2003.
At the time, yes.
@rockym2931 Is that because the statute steve just read was written after Kennedy? I assume it was
@@CheZfrmdaWestWisc Yes. Had Oswald not been killed himself, he would have been tried in a Texas court for murder. There was no federal law against assassinating the president at the time.
@@CheZfrmdaWestWisc I am thinking you are right. Besides, there is bound to be some kind of legal changes made after
something like that happens.
Well done video Steve. We do need people that are influencing our nation to act calmly, rationally, with forethought, and encourage civility at this time.
The law prohibits attacks on everyone, but it happens every hour of every day
Worked out well. No need for trial or lawyers. Money saved.
Oh ya, I'm sure the FBI who has been on Trumps side since day 1, will absolutely find out the truth. Lol
Probably the closest Steve ever gets to politics
And frankly, I appreciate that about this channel.
Now I see why.
I even noticed Steve avoiding saying Mr Trump’s name. He did say it a minimal number of times. Steve even went on to say “the candidate”.
@@chucksmoko5348yup, the algorithm doesn't like the god emperors true name
All law is politics. The trick is to avoid partisanship.
@@PapaDalbecfuck the algorithm, boo boo boy
After seeing how open the venue was there’s no excuse for those buildings not being covered by Secret Service. It appears that they deliberately turned a blind eye on the situation.
Often, a place like those rooftops would be watched by the State Police. The Secret Service is the lead agency for the protection of a POTUS candidate and events but local agencies would coordinate and provide manpower.
One guy interviewed after the fact pointed out a guy on the roof, and the police ignored him.
Candidates and former presidents have way fewer agents assigned to them than presidents. It may be that the local police had to be in charge of covering some parts of security, due to manpower. I don't know. Do you actually know either though? Clearly someone dropped the ball, but it's not clear if it's the SS
@@chrisester2910He's not officially a POTUS candidate until after the Republican Party nominates him next week.
@@gadget58 No different than any other republicans. No one does their job, including the Supreme Court. Why should the Secret Service work for their pay.
Thank You Steve, professional work as always. My Sorrow goes out to the families of the victims of this Tragic event.
Retired Federal Agent here. Your video is a good summary of Federal Law and the issue of jurisdiction. Generally, murders, assaults, etc. are prosecuted by the state unless as you point out specifically addressed as a Federal Crime. The statue states that its a crime such as when it involves a current or former government employee, family member, or witness, or that it becomes a Federal crime if the murder, assault, threat is in furtherance of another crime which is prosecutable by the Federal Government (such as a drug deal or terrorism), or if the crime is committed on Federal land, i.e. an Indian Reservation, a National Park, or a Federal Facility, or if the Federal Government has sole jurisdiction such as on an Airplane, Ship, or in international waters, or to an American Citizen, resident, or national in a foreign country, where there are other jurisdictional issues.. In many cases there are duel/overlapping jurisdictions, in these cases the Federal Governments jurisdiction takes precedence over the State or Local jurisdiction. However, some times the Federal government will decline to prosecute, or cede prosecution to a local jurisdiction for various reasons, and this happens quite a bit. The other victims of the rally could be seen as falling under Federal law do to the nature of the originating crime, and assassination attempt of a former President, or for a variety of other reasons, but the state can still investigate and even charge people if, the Federal government cedes jurisdiction, or the state has a law that was violated that the Federal government does not have. State law is different than Federal Law, even when very similar, in many way and may have additional crimes or thresholds for crimes, penalties, and even privilege and subpoena powers.
Plus:
Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act (18 U.S.C. § 249).
Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994.
Your channel , you choose topic. Screw the crappy utube trolls
"figured out 6 months from now." ???
We are still trying to figure out JFK!
THAT WAS 60 YRS AGO!
No. Only conspiracy theorists are still trying to 'figure it out'.
They figured that out long ago . They just won’t tell the truth.
The records are still sealed. That is part of our US history. Why is it hidden? @@kathleenmccrory9883
Conspiracy theorist are still trying to figure out JFK. The rest of us know what happened. By the way, people make their living pushing JFK conspiracy theories.
@@kathleenmccrory9883 Yes and no. The government has "figured it out". That said, those records are sealed till everyone who was alive at the time, even if just born, has passed.
Thank you for not getting political and just covering the law.
150m on a white roof is a failure sir
And a black roof?
Yeah, some of his supporters saw the guy and he is was pointed out to law enforcement. Reach your own conclusions.
@mrtechie6810 black roof would provide better concealment, that's the point. Less concealment means he definitely should have easily been spotted by security detail.
Yeah it seems like the guy is a complete amateur
@@Dragonk116apparently so. He missed his target..
I agree, don't get political. I enjoy non-political channels as entertainment because they are non-political. I also enjoy very political channels for the opposite reason. I myself am very in tune with the politics, and stay that way every year, regardless if it's election year or not. That being said, I take breaks from it by watching channels I know wont be speaking about politics, like yours. There are a couple of sailing VLOGS that I no longer follow because they began to inject politics into their content, one to the left and the other to the right. Even though I agree with one of their points of view, I no longer watch either channel because I view their content as an escape, and they've both ruined it for me.
I'm glad that you've recognized this, and have kept your channel neutral by not speaking about the politics. Thank you.
I stopped watching "The Legal Eagle" Channel because his politics is injected and clouds his legal analysis in many cases, he is very blatant about it.
Me too. His politics ruined it for me. @@Bhallmed
@@BhallmedI've seen his opinion being inserted, but I haven't seen his legal judgment clouded.
Assassination? CNN was reporting he fell from popping sounds
Thank you, Steve for explaining this .
Everyone- including bystanders and Leo- and they let this guy get in position? Wth
Steve again Thank you for another Informative Video.
Steve, thank you for your explanation of the applicable federal statute regarding this incident!
"Yes, indeed the illegal thing is illegal." -US Lawmakers
Idk, just saying, in many ways I appreciate the apolitical approach to this. It's pretty refreshing, and I'm glad to see a take on an otherwise kinda uncovered aspect of this situation.
The good thing is the Secret Service was the Judge and Jury. It's to bad for the victims. Love your channel.
I love the Ball State shirt! I haven’t been back in Muncie in 25 years. Thank you for being awesome!
A few years ago when the attempt was made on Gabrielle Giffords, Loughner was only charged with the federal charges and not with the state crimes. The Pima County prosecutor spoke with the families and they decided to not charge him with the civilian deaths since there is no statute of limitations for in Arizona for Murder. The idea was if something went wrong with the federal prosecution and he was going to walk Pima county could always bring back the state charges.
The whole Judicial system needs to be overhauled. It’s become to political
Become? Things weren't better in the judicial system in the past. You just didn't know about the level of abuse and corruption do to the lack of camera's everywhere.
Might want to include the Legislative and Executive systems in that overhaul.
@@CeanStraussIt's not the cameras. It was just more subtle. Now they think the corruption is a political virtue.
@@CeanStrauss I’ve lived thru and personally experienced corruption by law enforcement. Nobody had a camera capturing the abuse . Thousands if not millions of people have been abused by people of so called authority . I never seen so much of this political bs as they have treated Former President Trump.
READ PROJECT 2025...this is addressed in that proposal
thank you Steve you did a great job on informing the public about jurisdiction in this situation.
Yes, federal law sure does prohibit attacks... if they feel like enforcing it.
Letting the FBI and the Secret Service investigate this guarantees we'll never know the truth.
That's the truth, or they will spin it to fit their narrative
Its like putting the CIA chief on the Warren Commission
I'm pretty sure there isn't anyone on this Earth who could investigate it in such a way that it would true and you would believe it.
Lawfare against Trump wasn't working, soooo.
@@blairhoughton7918 The government is required to prove transparency and they usually fail, so you are basically right
The Secret Service failed entirely. They did not do a good job.
Trump is still alive.
DEI
@@stevenwoodward5923 Because Trump turned his head at the right moment... The SS didn't do that for him
@@Darren51283 Yes.
@@Darren51283 Absurd
Thank you for your apolitical discussion of this subject, Steve.
OK, the Secret Service did their job once the gun fire started, however, how is it the Secret Service didn't prevent a young man with a rifle from getting on the roof of a building only a few hundred yards from a Presidential candidate? This was NOT downtown Dallas, this was a fair grounds, with more grassy, open areas than buildings. I'm NOT saying the Secret Service screwed up, but on the other hand I'm not willing to say the Secret Service did a "great" job in this situation. I'm sure the FBI will do their investigation, and I'm equally sure they will be reluctant to cast disparity upon their fellow Federal employees.
Commenting for your algorithm.. You keep us informed..
We wont ever know what really happened.
We will know what "they" want us to know.
The Secret Service completely failed.
That is the most "no duh" title I have ever seen. I was surprised on the amount of substance. Good work and it was very interesting to see!
So some lives are MORE VALUABLE then others !
-- Still think we are created equal or believe our JOKE of a justice system ?
I like how CIA is specifically mentioned.
I mean if it was the CIA, the CIA member might be able to be charged, but the president has immunity if he gave the act to do it.
@rdizzy1 The double-edged sword of that Official Act ruling. (Not that I believe Joe ordered it, but I do so enjoy bringing this up when certain people are floating "Biden ordered it!" theories.)
@@rdizzy1 No I meant that the Director of CIA is specifically mentioned in the statute separately from all other heads of executive agencies. It's strange.
@@sujimtangerines Biden cant order a pizza.. if it was planned, it was Obama and the Clinton's.
@@rdizzy1that's not the mo. If the CIA wanted to commit a domestic assassination they'd likely solicit MI5, Mossad or a similar such organization. And those organizations would likely contract organized crime.
As I recall, when JFK was killed, the Dallas PD was initially in charge. There being no Federal Statute on assassination at the time. There were some critics of the Dallas PD at the time. The whole Jack Ruby thing.
Anyway, I believe the Federal legislation resulted from the JFK assassination events.
I looked it up. The laws Steve is citing go back to the '40s at least. But I didn't look far enough to see what they looked like in 1963 so maybe it was ambiguous.
@@blairhoughton7918 I am working from memory. I was only in Jr. High. But I remember a lot of discussion over jurisdiction. Dallas PD definitely held Oswald in custody of course. He was never in Federal Custody. And I believe there was some controversy over JFK’s body, and who had charge of it. My recollection was that the Secret Service just took it and no one stopped them.
Part of the issue may have been FBI authority in the case. FBI Authority was much more narrowly defined at one time. People were skeptical of a federal police force, believing the Constitution left law enforcement to the states. It may have been that the federal law was in place but that the FBI didn’t have jurisdiction over the case.
The FBI, like any Federal Agency, has had lots of Mission Creep since then.
This investigation definitely needs to be done by an independent impartial 3rd party and needs full transparency to the public. No more bullshit classification and hiding information from citizens.
Exactly right, can't trust the FBI or any 3 letter word government, so here we go another cover-up, 😮
Agreed, but thats as likely to happen as politicians voting to restrict their own power. I think we all know why this happened, and why it was allowed to happen.
Have you even met the government?
where would you find a 3rd party that is all that
It doesn't matter who investigates it or how transparent the investigation is, Trumpists will believe anything their leader says. So if Trump blames Biden they will believe Biden ordered it. It has been nearly 4 years and about 30% of Americans still believe the election was stolen, because Trump keeps insisting it was stolen, with no proof.
Brilliant! Thank you for the clarity.
Follow up related question:
Jurisdiction on the alleged carjacking/robery attempt (gone pretty wrong) of a sitting Supreme Court Justice's SECURITY DETAIL, since I think they were federal agents.
And to be clear, I'm talking about Justice Sotomayor, but I like the way this video kept names out of things (only reason I'm clarifying here is since I'm the one asking the question, not making the video)
This is what amounts to a news flash by Steve Lehto.
Dropped everything to post this!
Love your ability to not piss of either party lol
Can of worms.
Steve: "Hold my beer."
Pretty early for a beer, even in Michigan.
Guess they are gonna have to build Trump his own Pope mobile!
Thank you for your timely, contemporaneous update. Many with a platform will say they don't want to comment until "all the facts are in," but there are always existing truths--such as laws--that can certainly be shared today, which is what you are doing. So thank you for not hesitating.
Steve, I love your show. You've got way too much faith in the government. "Slow but sure?"
Ben is on top of the bottle on our right.
On OUR left, on Steve's right.
Michigan state court system sucks. They gave a plea deal to a 6x felon who ended my brother's life. Pure BS.
In Michigan, that does not surprise me.
Sorry for your loss
So, basically, Biden is +1 this election?
@@Nah_Bohdi cold, but accurate.
@@tarrantwolf prosecutor David Leyton. Felon is on MDOC Jason Brandon
As a former microbrewery owner, you need a brewers notice issued by the TTB to purchase materials such as barley and sugar in more than nominal quantities. The brewer suppliers must track all sales. It’s possible to circumvent the reporting but you can still be caught, which obviously happened in this case.
With widespread pot legalization including being allowed to grow your own for personal use, this law is increasingly untenable.
Also before the increasingly sophisticated government tracking it was easier to home distill.
Thank you for your work, interesting as always.
They didn’t have the ONLY roof nearby secured. It was only 130 yards away. The secret service did a TERRIBLE job. They did the worst of jobs.
im still confused how the gunman was able to get a gun in. back in 2020 when trump had an event in my hometown, my work just so happened to be a block behind the stadium trump was in, and there were police yelling at me telling me until i moved several streets away. made me late for work that day, still salty about it
He was outside of the fenced in rally, on the other side, near the tree line. He used a ladder to get on the roof of that building. Ss was on a building inside the rally
So... chain link fence is "secure"?? At 150 yards?
@@sherrolmohn8686They should have set up a perimeter way bigger than what they had. Maybe they did and somebody just didn't enforce it. Maybe they delegated that to local LE. Whoever chose this site with the infinite sightlines is going to have some splainin to do as well.
And if Trump waved off _any_ security provisions that should exonerate all of the protectors.
@@sherrolmohn8686 still, for a rural area with so few buildings, like 5 or 6 from what i saw, why werent they all secured? i just dont get it
@@sherrolmohn8686 SS protocol is to secure the high ground at least 500 yards from the person they are protecting. They failed to do so.
Its not a crime to tell us the news what ever it be great video!
I too was quite young (10yo) during Kennedy assassination. I spent my time watching history evolve on TV.
Now we have to worry about another cover-up, especially the FBI is involved,
Wow, this sure got the attention off of Biden, didn't it?!
Wow, this sure turned trump into a "victim", didn't it? 🙄
Steve, thanks for mentioning the man who was excecated in Michigan. I remember reading about that some years back. Interesting story. I believe it was in the 1930s.
Just more evidence of how they placed themselves above the interest of the General Public
The roof was unprotected (an unlikely, non-random event) and the gunman knew to go to the unprotected roof (an unlikely non-random event). My leg is wet and there ain't a cloud in the sky.
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Since when did written laws matter? The constitution doesn’t matter here. Why should anything else
Whoever told you this is not being honest. I'm guessing this is a response to the horribly inaccurate reporting on the immunity ruling... like Sotomayor completely misinterpreting Article 1, Section 3, Clause 7 of the constitution in her dissenting opinion. Either she's unqualified or she knows she's lying; I can't tell which and I don't know which is worse.
@@SomeGuyFromUtah every scotus, pre being so, is queried about roe v wade. every one of them gave roe v wade accolades, and praises. what happened? did they lie then? or now?
It's a free-for-all now.
@@jerryjerry7561 Roe V. Wade and that whole topic is such an impossible thing to rule on.
There's no clear metric to decide it one way or the other. If a pregnant woman is murder, it counts as 2 deaths, but there's also definitely a need for rights regarding your own body and deciding when it's not just your body anymore is more of a moral/religious question than a legal question.
I don't think it's completely unreasonable to defer this to the states to decide for themselves.
@@SomeGuyFromUtah clear metric for 50 years genius. what happened? trump? go look up "we dont use American banks, we get all the funding we need out of russia" bought and paid for! republican congress knew!
Steve, thank your for your credible reporting. You are the only person whose video I have watched on the topic because I have watched your videos long enough to know that you make every effort to report accurately, to not add in irrelevant misinformation or blatantly misleading speculation, and still add relevant legal information to the event. Even when it is shocking national event whose full details will likely not be known for at least 6 months. Your honesty and integrity is refreshing and is greatly appreciated.
I had always assumed that you were on the conservative side, but imagine that you didn’t wanna alienate anybody else on UA-cam… But thank you for making this. It solidifies my opinion of you.
I watched just enough to understand what happened. The opinions and speculations that follow the event are of no interest. When they release the facts is what matters.
This morning a former FBI Director said that the Secret Service does not instigate this crime. The FBI has sole investigative responsibilities.
Wow that’s reassuring.
@@user-gt3jz4zn3sIt is, given the SS is a suspect.
Correct, the secret service is not an investigative agency.
I think you mean investigate.
And it has been assigned to the same Field Office that ran the Hunter Biden Laptop case.
Great explanation , AND staying in your lane !
State of Washington considers life in prison to be 25 years
It's my understanding and correct me if I'm mistaken it was the aftermath of the tragedy of JFK that there was disagreement on who had jurisdiction to investigate and prosocute. Fifty states equals fifty sets of laws. God bless everyone hurt in these events of the last day.
Still waiting for you to comment on immunity from SCOTUS.
Thank you for not being political! Even if you would be on “my side” it is refreshing to be able to watch without it devolving into politics. There are a few channels I watch that take this approach and they are my go to channels when looking for content.
Tough shit. Shouldn't have made presidents de-facto unaccountable under the law through a supreme court ruling. NO ONE should be allowed that much power, ever, and anyone who tries to take it? As I said, tough shit.
This conversation has me wondering who has jurisdiction if this had happened outside the country
The President has jurisdiction. Legally speaking.
Fire Dept.
The country it happens in has primary jurisdiction. In some situations there is also federal jurisdiction back here.
FBI.
@@oklahomahank2378 Yeah, it would be jurisdiction of the country in question (unless, for example, it happened on a US military base or US Consulate within the borders of another country) - but it would be so incredibly politically charged if they then refused full participation of our own investigating agencies (led by FBI I'm sure) it could even have military consequences.