The fact that insurance companies are refusing to cover acts of government authority proves that such acts are far more common than anyone is willing to admit.
Technically speaking, it’s a correct thing to mention on their behalf, as the government should be issuing these compensations themselves, but the fact they don’t is another issue
Instead the insurance companies should be required to take the claim - BUT, they can go after the police for the compensation. Private citizens might not always sue and be determined enough to win, but Insurance companies will spend every last dime and minute recovering their losses
Also proves how insurance as a whole concept is a scam. not a single insurance in the world can monetarily sustain itself while actually providing the coverage they claim to offer. The fact that any insurance is government mandated should also be illegal.
@@vidshadow8919 , You do make an excellent point. However, consider what would happen if drivers were not required to have insurance for their cars. Some drivers cause accidents due to their own negligence or just being human. Not all of them are capable of paying for the damage they cause. is it really fair that their victims should bear the brunt of the costs? Or we can just mandate that anyone who wishes to drive must self indemnify by any means available, for at least $100,000.00 worth or even more. Then only the upper middle class and the wealthy would be able to drive. There are other, similar activities that also require insurance as well. There is a reason for requiring health insurance, too.
Pretty much. The same laws that apply to the public do not apply to law enforcement. Thats how the system is designed. You should have little to no faith in the justice system at this point.
Quick fact; did you know that C.A.F was actually banned by Barack, and *brought back* by Donald (ivil sset orfeiture, my comment keeps getting deleted)
I would like to know why and how they are running around with explosives? That is illegal for civilians to posess. Last I saw the police are civilians. They are not military
Because the people deciding to fight the case are not the ones who have to pay for it. And they also don't face any personal consequences for fighting a case like this and losing. This must have cost the local taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars *but it didn't cost the prosecutor a single penny.*
Well many times they already have an attorney on staff so instead they neglect everything else that they should be dealing with they are just dealing with this. Neglecting the people to protect the government.
A lot of this, IMO, is the romanticizing of CQC (Close Quarter Combat) in law enforcement and the military (Spec Ops community). There's of cool factor in doing these type of operations and dressing up in tacti-cool gear. Unlike, the movies, very few end up in gun fights like you would encounter in Afghanistan and Iraq. It's a necessary skill but must be used with extreme caution... for the safety of innocent civilians. Why do you think there's a thing called SWATTING? It's because they know how zealous the cops are to put on their tacti-cool gear and wreck havoc upon "the threat".
Great reference! By the way, did you know that C.A.F was actually banned by Barack, and *brought back* by Donald (ivil sset orfeiture, my comment keeps getting deleted)
@@Tortilla.Reform he may have restricted the practice on paper, but in real life asset forfeitures rose sharply under his administration. Look up this headline. “Civil asset forfeitures more than double under Obama”
Schwartz used for if there's a standoff or anything lady whoever you are and the homeowner called them so that's why her house got tore up the dumbass called them
The unfortunate moral of the story is, do not be a good Samaritan and definitely do not call the police, EVER! The police WILL ruin your life if given the opportunity.
@@miramichi30 unlike you, im not afraid to fight criminals, i live in a crime ridden area no problem in a fight hand to hand, and most certainly no problem in using 2a dealing with intruders, muggers and house burglars. leos know there's crime in my are and they more often than not avoid those areas while harassing law abiding citizens. so spare me the high horse.
@@miramichi30Police in the us are literal troglodytes. They only show up to shoot people and break stuff, and the few times they have to actually use their weapon as a means of defence they end up injuring the wrong person.
Mostly true. I do know a couple of good cops in my town. If I absolutely had to call th police I'd call thier cell phone first to let them know what was going on because these guys know me and I wouldn't get jacked and lied to by some random cop. Cops can be extremely dangerous!
To be fair, in the first case the police did think the homeowner was going to be compensated. Its the city bean counters and lawyers that are causing this.
Nothing extra because they just use attorneys that were already on payroll. The city has attorneys being paid regardless of their caseload, giving them more work doesn't cost extra, at most it just means less free time while on the clock.
@@NETWizzJbirk You don't seem to understand how city governments work. They literally have an on staff city attorney to handle things like this, just like they have city managers, municipal judges, etc. Go look at the staff list for that city.
The sad part is it’s happening more and more not just swat, but police raids. It’s like half of them don’t even double check or use detective skills to make sure there where they’re supposed to be. It’s sad to see people who just don’t know their job anymore.
They know. They just don't care. Pension Piggies are just trying to make it to five oclock. They think they are special, and anything they do wrong is covered up/paid by taxpayers. So why should they care???
Tbh, that impatience/indifference (not sure what else to call it) being officially written into policy is an oddly recurring theme. It's not just door busters doing zero homework either, so many of the problematic random ID encounters on yt show exactly that also. Some rando seems sketchy and you think he bears investigating but you don't have RAS? Why not hang out and watch instead of baiting a lawsuit and escalating things immediately for ID? That seems like it would be a far more effective, safer for everyone and less expensive course, but the opposite seems to be the goal.
Quick fact, did you know that C.A.F was actually banned by Barack, and *brought back* by Donald (ivil sset orfeiture, my comment keeps getting deleted)
Good luck recruiting officers if they can get sued by every disgruntled member of the public. The city should be liable. They are the ones with the money anyway.
@@miramichi30 The problem resides in the fact that their fuckups cost the taxpayer and insurance carriers. Officers should be limited in how much financial liability they are worth. Once that amount is exceeded, they get terminated and their certification revoked. There is absolutely no reason for the taxpayer to employ fuckups, losers and sociopaths.
Search warrants, particularly narcotics search warrant execution are notorious for unnecessary destruction of personal property. I'm a retired cop, and saw it many times. A warrant is executed and during the search the house is trashed. I mean trashed. Dishes raked from counters and tables and broken, drawers emptied on the floor and things getting broken and strewn about. We've left houses and they looked like absolute hell is left in our wake. I never liked it and argued about it many times. Thousands of dollars of damage. Children's rooms, clothes and toys were not "exempt". There is a way to search, and search efficiently and effectively without causing total destruction.
It's like le looks at us their fellow Americans as enemies ??? Like we're not as good or law abiding as yall. We're your neighbors your relatives friends and fellow people. We're not animals at least not all of us. Thanks for sharing
When cities have SWAT teams, there's too much incentive to use them. I lived in Newport OR, and watched them use a swat team to evict a kid across the street. Insane.
Legal, Private Firearms Dealer in Norfolk County, Ontario, Canada was raided by Metropolitan Toronto Police SWAT Team replete with personal Ambulance. The Dealer was servicing a 'Patron' at the time in his home business when SWAT stormed through the doors and shot him quicker than he could verbally/physically respond. No reason was given for illegal, out-of-jurisdiction Raid. Man was murdered because he upset somebody in the Judicial System. Look that one up.
My neighbor had his front door kicked in by a SWAT team. They backed out real fast. He was a federal officer and so was his wife. Two police officers were arrested and it turned out the “tip” they were given was sent from a jailhouse phone by a gang member the wife had arrested a few days previously. The SWAT team didn’t have a warrant, didn’t check the address, didn’t do anything to make the search legal.
Thos is very common if you look at the behavior of government employees regularly. I just want to say you guys are the best and i really believe you are doing Gods work.
@@miramichi30 why not? 😄 Seriously though, they are doing this to people who are not criminals. This is a glaring problem. And it could happen to anyone right now.
There's no reason an agent of the government should be able to enter your or any other building without notice or permission. For the exact reason that mistakes can happen to anyone. Even police are not infallible. That said they should have to check, recheck, and check again before carrying out a warrant. Especially if it doesn't require notice, which should be illegal.
I can't even write a coherent reply to the material of this video that won't be taken down by UA-cam. I am not anti-government in any way - I pay taxes because they're my dues for living in a functioning society; understand that there are limits to my freedom and things that government needs to do that I don't like and don't want to happen, realize that policies can be made by people with whom I differ politically because they are in control of the process. That said, some of these things are so patently obvious and unjust it's nearly impossible to understand who is defending it. Thank you for your work.
Implied exception to the takings clause? Case needs to be sent to the USSC. Terrible argument that the gov't can torch my house and then leave me with the bill because the destruction was necessary. Who makes the decision that it was "necessary" should be a jury not an appellate judge.
Scotus Will find amorphous reasons for upholding the ruling that gave the homeowner Nothing. But if that happened to thier home... the police would be drawn and quartered for thier mistakes
@@pilotnamealreadytaken6035; Laws/ rules for thee butt not for me. I'm rich important etc. Justice is coming, just give it a little more fuel. It will be a 🔥 mess!
Thanks for the work you do, 29:54 IOJ. Sad how some folks take an oath to defend the constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic, and then become domestic enemies of the constitution.
That is a general problem. One of the earliest scenarios that I thought of is serving a search warrant on someone else who has the same 2nd Amendment Rights as the one serving the warrant. They have a suspension of Civil Rights, in that instance, but in America today, they take it much too far.
I live in mckinney and I’m not surprised about their swat team. They shut our neighborhood down and talked to me like I’m a criminal (the raid was 3 blocks away from me) and damaged our grass
They represent the nation of israel. Not america. And its questionable if we actually elect them, since they clearly control ballot counters and always find just the number of votes they need to keep the aipac guys in office.
Wasn't Vikki Baker the incident where her daughter offered to help with things like opening the garage door but they didn't want that, they wanted to break down the door with their armored vehicle.
Yep. They just wanted to play with their toys. I don’t think they actually expected the city to pay for anything. Usually the cards they hand out go directly to a lawyer for the municipal insurance company.
@@miramichi30she had an electric garage door opener. She didn’t even need to go near the house. Someone in the swat team could have used the bleeper to open the garage.
It is mind-boggling to realize that after 250 years there is no settled law in the United States. The same crimes and circumstances keep happening over and over and over and we decide each one Court by Court working our way up the ladder and each Court says yes or no and some of them contradict each other, anyway it's mind-boggling isn't it!.
After SCOTUS decided against equity theft, Arizona and Minnesota introduced bills to let them keep stealing equity by giving homeowners a deadline to demand what's theirs. Arizona shtting all over the constitution does not surprise me, but say it ain't so Minnesota!
@@MeRiaNevaMynd well then let me help you raise your suspicion. Why is our legal system written in code the word code means words letters numbers or symbols used to obfuscate or hide the meaning of. A wise man once said, if a well-educated 6th grader can't understand it it shouldn't be a law
“ We were just obeying orders “. How many years ago was this excuse rejected ? Why is is it that fairness integrity and justice is ignored in favor of saving bucks for “The Government “ Why are the courts bending over backward to defend the State ? Where is the unbiased and impartial dispensing of “ Justice without fear or favor ? “ .
I have been a paying monthly donor for six years. These folks are the true hero’s. These cases also get discussed in officer training. Together we all can help strike a reasonable balance of rights first and legal authority of justice processes.
Going to the right house seems like it would be easy for LE to figure out. Just order a pizza sent to the address and follow the delivery person. I guess following the delivery person without losing them could be a challenge that SWAT might have a problem with.
Did I get lucky? I sued NYC in 2013 in small claim court when city's Parks dept contractor destroyed my sidewalk while removing a large sidewalk tree stump, and won in arbitration. NYC Comptroller office played dirty. it waited until last week of an entire year, and denied my damage claim. It pissed me off so hard.
An appellate court sua sponte making up a new argument should be an immediate grounds for appeal to at least an en banc hearing. You don't ambush the appeals process as they just bring in their own facts with no rebuttal. Especially when you have a Jury finding.
The government has an easy out by requiring homeowners insurance to cover this type of thing since they claim immunity. WHy are the insurance companies allowed to opt out of this?
Well, ignorance of the law is no excuse, and if im an escape driver and some other guy committed some crimes, i would be charged with them too. Government needs to be held to a higher standard.
How would this case be different if instead of the dog being left deaf and blind it was the daughter or the hostage? These were excessive force against a dead suspect and an innocent family. Why do they arrest people this way when they don’t know who is inside?
I just talked to five officers from five different municipality and they all know the city will not pay for swat damages they have cards for citizens to call for damages it goes right to a law office of their insurance company the attorneys take the damage clame from citizens then tells the insurance what to say on clames over certain amount it goes straight to denial and lower than that amount a certain percentage is offered like 20% is original offered then negotiations above that amount if a attorneys are involved then your original amount may get paid but now you have to pay for your attorneys fees which is all most the same as what you were asking for
@MeRia035 YOUR welcome it's sad that our legal system is as crooked as any scam artist and what I found worse is the police who destroyed your property says omg I thought you would get reimbursement for our damages like they are completely innocent . It's all about who you know and your ability to hire one of the best lawyers in the country
It would be similar if a cop seizes your vehicle in the middle of a police chase in order to stop the suspect yes? So the cop wouldn’t be liable but the city/county would be liable. It’s preposterous that cities don’t automatically recognize their liability. I can guarantee that if the police destroy the mayor’s home in an identical situation, the mayor guaranteed would be immediately compensated. Or a city council member, or a police officer’s home, or the DA’s home. That is what pisses me off most about this. Is that they exclusively don’t compensate people they don’t deem to be important enough or people they don’t believe can afford to fight them in court.
Are insurance companies forced into not covering government damages?? Seems odd to exclude. After paying the claimant,insurance companies go after the guilty party for compensation. Seems another way for government to be unaccountable.
Are there any lists of lawyers that IJ has vetted so we citizenry can hire if we end up in these situations? I’ve noticed that career criminals find lawyers that literally get violent abusers probation while innocent people are thrown to the wolves.
If you take a hostage or something and its your house that the police damage, fine. But if it's a completely innocent party with no legal fault in the situation, the government ABSOLUTELY needs to pay up. This is ridiculous.
In the case with the apartment being on the third floor, where the police unable to contact the landlord or review building permits and or real estate transactions. I'm having trouble believing they couldn't figure out that was two apartments and which one was which.
The basis for the implied exception is that the judge is misapplying and cherry picking case law in an attempt to negate a novel and effective argument.
I would argue that the best way to tackle this is for the FTC to step in and make a rule saying insurance cant exclude damage done by the government anymore. Make insurance do their actual job. Ignoring that tear gas is technically considered a war crime under the Geneva protocol why is it still being used against civilians by law enforcement in the first place?
Wny should the insurance company cover the incompetence of police? All of our premiums would all DRASTICALLY spike if this were the case. no, police just need to be smacked down and HARD. People, why are we paying taxes? Thats what funds these animals. Maybe we should all take a minute and think about where our taxes are going. Are you paying your taxes to fund this kind of behavior? No? put your money elsewhere.
How would I get justice if a former spouse is behind the not Swat team but the Suffolk county sheriff's department and staged a false eviction? Ditto other state government agencies and the federal government including the internal revenue?
Sorry,they are the Blue Line gang and it is a real thing. Once they get you as a target you are screwed. Stay safe. Move away and live your life It's frustrating but really you will waste half of your life fighting for justice and more than likely never get it. Stay safe. Try to move on.
Complaints to POST or whatever agency in that area, a complaint to the attorney general, of course an IA complaint, and finally a lawsuit. These last will require some resources, or help from some benevolent attorneys. Record and document everything.
If they aren't willing to pay damages they promised; what makes you think they'd pay you a bounty on a wanted person? What if criminal walks in your house, you dont even know who he is, police trash your place with bullets and explosives and teargas, nobody cares for your life being ruined?
“We expect more from pizza, delivery, drivers, Girl Scouts and plumbers…” better be somewhere in your closing argument! Sheesh that really brought it home
the solution to this is easy, Police departments should be REQUIRED to have insurance in the event they break the wrong door down, and an increase on their rates everytime they claim. If they force me to have car insurance ill force them to have wrong house insurance!
The city will only pay if you sue them. But to sue them you need to have money. The poor get F'd. I am surprised that SWAT doesn't cover damages. Don't they have insurance? 60 cans of tear gas? WTH.
Really simple, did you tear up one of We the Peoples property? Did you have a completely lawful warrant for that property? No..... YOU ARE LIABLE......
Causing $60k of damage and refusing to pay for it is how you get a killdozer in your lobby
Amen !!!!!
Facts
Only this time around,there will be many more than one.
It was actually 90 k
how the hell did you get away with that, id have had to call it the unalivedozer at least or my comment would be deleted
The fact that insurance companies are refusing to cover acts of government authority proves that such acts are far more common than anyone is willing to admit.
Good point. Yes, that really tells you how common it is... disgusting!
Technically speaking, it’s a correct thing to mention on their behalf, as the government should be issuing these compensations themselves, but the fact they don’t is another issue
Instead the insurance companies should be required to take the claim - BUT, they can go after the police for the compensation.
Private citizens might not always sue and be determined enough to win, but Insurance companies will spend every last dime and minute recovering their losses
Also proves how insurance as a whole concept is a scam. not a single insurance in the world can monetarily sustain itself while actually providing the coverage they claim to offer. The fact that any insurance is government mandated should also be illegal.
@@vidshadow8919 ,
You do make an excellent point. However, consider what would happen if drivers were not required to have insurance for their cars. Some drivers cause accidents due to their own negligence or just being human. Not all of them are capable of paying for the damage they cause. is it really fair that their victims should bear the brunt of the costs? Or we can just mandate that anyone who wishes to drive must self indemnify by any means available, for at least $100,000.00 worth or even more. Then only the upper middle class and the wealthy would be able to drive. There are other, similar activities that also require insurance as well. There is a reason for requiring health insurance, too.
They will ruin everything you’ve worked for and walk off and go to sleep at night like nothing happened.
Because cops are remorseless sociopaths.
@@TCR2025 Reptilian brain lizard 🦎
Pretty much. The same laws that apply to the public do not apply to law enforcement. Thats how the system is designed. You should have little to no faith in the justice system at this point.
Quick fact; did you know that C.A.F was actually banned by Barack, and *brought back* by Donald (ivil sset orfeiture, my comment keeps getting deleted)
I would like to know why and how they are running around with explosives? That is illegal for civilians to posess. Last I saw the police are civilians. They are not military
Geeze. The city of McKinney must've spent more money litigating than just compensating the homeowner.
Of course! They're afraid to set a precedent and they'll follow their lawyers advice. Why not, it's not their money, it's the taxpayers money.
Because the people deciding to fight the case are not the ones who have to pay for it. And they also don't face any personal consequences for fighting a case like this and losing. This must have cost the local taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars *but it didn't cost the prosecutor a single penny.*
Ditto
Exactly.
Well many times they already have an attorney on staff so instead they neglect everything else that they should be dealing with they are just dealing with this. Neglecting the people to protect the government.
Radley Balko wrote a book called Rise of the Warrior Cop, he also talks about the overzealous SWAT raids. Continued success IJ.
A lot of this, IMO, is the romanticizing of CQC (Close Quarter Combat) in law enforcement and the military (Spec Ops community). There's of cool factor in doing these type of operations and dressing up in tacti-cool gear. Unlike, the movies, very few end up in gun fights like you would encounter in Afghanistan and Iraq. It's a necessary skill but must be used with extreme caution... for the safety of innocent civilians. Why do you think there's a thing called SWATTING? It's because they know how zealous the cops are to put on their tacti-cool gear and wreck havoc upon "the threat".
Great reference! By the way, did you know that C.A.F was actually banned by Barack, and *brought back* by Donald (ivil sset orfeiture, my comment keeps getting deleted)
@@Tortilla.Reform he may have restricted the practice on paper, but in real life asset forfeitures rose sharply under his administration. Look up this headline. “Civil asset forfeitures more than double under Obama”
@@Tortilla.Reform You may want to delete your comments or at least take note of two different responses refuting what you're posting.
Also John Whitehead's books on the American police state. He found that SWAT raids occur more than 80000 times yearly.
The entire government is out of control.
BOUGHT AND PAID FOR. WHO DID NOT KNOW THAT?
Read Randy Barnett's RESTORING THE LOST CONSTITUTION: THE PRESUMPTION OF LIBERTY.
Nope. Only key individuals in authoritative positions at all levels of government.
@@exothermal.sprocketno the whole system is broken with greed and corruption
@@exothermal.sprocket The rest are just doing their jobs?
Thanks for the shout out guys! I'll keep telling people about the great work done by the IJ!
(Now if only they could learn to pronounce your name right...)
We love ya Steve!
Steve, it is so fun to see you here. And I'm surprised they cannot pronounce your name property. Haven't they ever watched one of YOUR videos????
SWAT was never meant to be used on private homeowners.
Do you believe that?
mission creep is real
But they have the guns, so that's that.
Never meant by whom?
Schwartz used for if there's a standoff or anything lady whoever you are and the homeowner called them so that's why her house got tore up the dumbass called them
They act like they're in a war zone.
Lots of cops and departments got their tactics from 20 years of war.
They are at war with civilians
@@cincomithelland equipment, lots of equipment. Departments feel a need to use this equipment.
We actually are. Most people just don't realize it yet.
They are trained it is the police against the people so they are trained they are at war with the citizens
The unfortunate moral of the story is, do not be a good Samaritan and definitely do not call the police, EVER! The police WILL ruin your life if given the opportunity.
unfortunately most people know calling leos is a bad idea, so most of the ones that do call do it to cause harm to others
Yeah, instead you should play house with dangerous felons. You can save the damage to your house and lose your life instead.
@@miramichi30 unlike you, im not afraid to fight criminals, i live in a crime ridden area no problem in a fight hand to hand, and most certainly no problem in using 2a dealing with intruders, muggers and house burglars. leos know there's crime in my are and they more often than not avoid those areas while harassing law abiding citizens. so spare me the high horse.
@@miramichi30criminals with badges are far more dangerous than ordinary criminals
@@miramichi30Police in the us are literal troglodytes. They only show up to shoot people and break stuff, and the few times they have to actually use their weapon as a means of defence they end up injuring the wrong person.
I'm convinced it will be better if you dont call the cops to come anywhere for any reason
Mostly true. I do know a couple of good cops in my town. If I absolutely had to call th police I'd call thier cell phone first to let them know what was going on because these guys know me and I wouldn't get jacked and lied to by some random cop. Cops can be extremely dangerous!
Don’t call the police when you need a trained professional.
Only call when you want a bad situation to become a lot worse.
To be fair, in the first case the police did think the homeowner was going to be compensated. Its the city bean counters and lawyers that are causing this.
Same.
Curious how much the city spent in legal fees to avoid paying this lady $60,000?
It's not their money.
It proves that taxation is theft.
Nothing extra because they just use attorneys that were already on payroll. The city has attorneys being paid regardless of their caseload, giving them more work doesn't cost extra, at most it just means less free time while on the clock.
@@Vincent_Beers what makes you so certainly use staff attorneys? I would not put it past them to higher outside legal.
@@NETWizzJbirk You don't seem to understand how city governments work. They literally have an on staff city attorney to handle things like this, just like they have city managers, municipal judges, etc. Go look at the staff list for that city.
The sad part is it’s happening more and more not just swat, but police raids. It’s like half of them don’t even double check or use detective skills to make sure there where they’re supposed to be. It’s sad to see people who just don’t know their job anymore.
They dont need to. They can just lie. They have immunity as long as they remain ignorant and loyal.
They know. They just don't care. Pension Piggies are just trying to make it to five oclock. They think they are special, and anything they do wrong is covered up/paid by taxpayers. So why should they care???
I've heard of the police raiding houses to look for somebody who had moved out YEARS earlier, *proving they did NO investigation/surveillance first.*
Tbh, that impatience/indifference (not sure what else to call it) being officially written into policy is an oddly recurring theme. It's not just door busters doing zero homework either, so many of the problematic random ID encounters on yt show exactly that also. Some rando seems sketchy and you think he bears investigating but you don't have RAS? Why not hang out and watch instead of baiting a lawsuit and escalating things immediately for ID? That seems like it would be a far more effective, safer for everyone and less expensive course, but the opposite seems to be the goal.
Quick fact, did you know that C.A.F was actually banned by Barack, and *brought back* by Donald (ivil sset orfeiture, my comment keeps getting deleted)
Almost like the concept of qualified immunity is a logical and legal fallacy not supported by any real piece of legislation.
Not almost, that is exactly and precisely what it is.
You are correct my friend. The Supreme Court created qualified immunity. There was never a law passed by Congress
Good luck recruiting officers if they can get sued by every disgruntled member of the public. The city should be liable. They are the ones with the money anyway.
@@miramichi30 The problem resides in the fact that their fuckups cost the taxpayer and insurance carriers. Officers should be limited in how much financial liability they are worth. Once that amount is exceeded, they get terminated and their certification revoked. There is absolutely no reason for the taxpayer to employ fuckups, losers and sociopaths.
No one can site the statue that allows it either!!
I will never stop donating to these great lawyers
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Well, unless they do a Project Veritas...
@@s.h.6858Care to elavorate?
The law needs to operate under the common sense principle of “You break it, you bought it”.
It is a 5th A taking. A recent case already ruled on this
Love that quote. Lawyers use some of the best quips in their vernacular.
"We expect more from girlscouts than the 5th circuit did of officer Lewis"
Search warrants, particularly narcotics search warrant execution are notorious for unnecessary destruction of personal property. I'm a retired cop, and saw it many times. A warrant is executed and during the search the house is trashed. I mean trashed. Dishes raked from counters and tables and broken, drawers emptied on the floor and things getting broken and strewn about. We've left houses and they looked like absolute hell is left in our wake. I never liked it and argued about it many times. Thousands of dollars of damage. Children's rooms, clothes and toys were not "exempt". There is a way to search, and search efficiently and effectively without causing total destruction.
Well, thank you for trying. It's all a person can do is try.
I appreciate your candor yet you participated and refused to try and stop it.
It's like le looks at us their fellow Americans as enemies ??? Like we're not as good or law abiding as yall. We're your neighbors your relatives friends and fellow people. We're not animals at least not all of us. Thanks for sharing
@@WhydoIsuddenlyhaveahandle There must be a lot of children in these comments. What is he supposed to do except raise the issue with his superiors?
@@miramichi30quit; stop acting like there isn’t a choice. I’m sure there were a lot of Nazis whom “raised concern with their superiors”.
Unfortunately the lesson learned here is do not call the cops if a fugitive is at your house.
Pay out of the LE pension fund.
Yup
Yeah and it should compensate externalities too (mental stress, loss of time and work etc.).
When cities have SWAT teams, there's too much incentive to use them. I lived in Newport OR, and watched them use a swat team to evict a kid across the street. Insane.
Why the fuck does Newport need a SWAT team?
@@disguyhere972 Maybe the sea lions will try to take over. I have video of it, flashbangs and everything.
Legal, Private Firearms Dealer in Norfolk County, Ontario, Canada was raided by Metropolitan Toronto Police SWAT Team replete with personal Ambulance. The Dealer was servicing a 'Patron' at the time in his home business when SWAT stormed through the doors and shot him quicker than he could verbally/physically respond. No reason was given for illegal, out-of-jurisdiction Raid. Man was murdered because he upset somebody in the Judicial System. Look that one up.
Rodger Wayne Kontako was the dealer
Imagine if the government was of, by, and for the people - what a country that would be...
It is. The people are the corporations and the police are their protectors.
It would be called a criminal infested world that's what it would be called
My neighbor had his front door kicked in by a SWAT team. They backed out real fast. He was a federal officer and so was his wife. Two police officers were arrested and it turned out the “tip” they were given was sent from a jailhouse phone by a gang member the wife had arrested a few days previously. The SWAT team didn’t have a warrant, didn’t check the address, didn’t do anything to make the search legal.
This story actually pisses me off.
The rest of us wouldn't be lucky enough to get a break. We would get shot.
And that's how people are supposed to get fired.
Sounds like the usual.
So, that gang member wanted revenge on the cop wife huh? He should get more prison time for that.
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Thos is very common if you look at the behavior of government employees regularly.
I just want to say you guys are the best and i really believe you are doing Gods work.
There is never a good reason for a no-knock warrant.
Agreed. That one is pure B.S.
I actually disagree. You don't want to give criminals the chance to arm themselves, or destroy evidence.
@@miramichi30 why not? 😄 Seriously though, they are doing this to people who are not criminals. This is a glaring problem. And it could happen to anyone right now.
There's no reason an agent of the government should be able to enter your or any other building without notice or permission. For the exact reason that mistakes can happen to anyone. Even police are not infallible. That said they should have to check, recheck, and check again before carrying out a warrant. Especially if it doesn't require notice, which should be illegal.
@@miramichi30 Id rather safety of the innocent over evidence retrieval
I can't even write a coherent reply to the material of this video that won't be taken down by UA-cam. I am not anti-government in any way - I pay taxes because they're my dues for living in a functioning society; understand that there are limits to my freedom and things that government needs to do that I don't like and don't want to happen, realize that policies can be made by people with whom I differ politically because they are in control of the process. That said, some of these things are so patently obvious and unjust it's nearly impossible to understand who is defending it. Thank you for your work.
When there are no consequences for being wrong… 🤦🏽♂️
This is what happens when you militarize the Police.
This is what happens in a Socialist society!
@provisionalhypothesisYou poor cultist brainwashed twit
@@dangeary2134 This is what happens in a Police State!
@provisionalhypothesisweirdo
@@dangeary2134 sit down and get some original takes for once.
Implied exception to the takings clause? Case needs to be sent to the USSC.
Terrible argument that the gov't can torch my house and then leave me with the bill because the destruction was necessary. Who makes the decision that it was "necessary" should be a jury not an appellate judge.
Scotus Will find amorphous reasons for upholding the ruling that gave the homeowner Nothing.
But if that happened to thier home... the police would be drawn and quartered for thier mistakes
@@pilotnamealreadytaken6035; Laws/ rules for thee butt not for me. I'm rich important etc. Justice is coming, just give it a little more fuel. It will be a 🔥 mess!
Thanks for the work you do, 29:54 IOJ. Sad how some folks take an oath to defend the constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic, and then become domestic enemies of the constitution.
That is a general problem. One of the earliest scenarios that I thought of is serving a search warrant on someone else who has the same 2nd Amendment Rights as the one serving the warrant. They have a suspension of Civil Rights, in that instance, but in America today, they take it much too far.
I live in mckinney and I’m not surprised about their swat team.
They shut our neighborhood down and talked to me like I’m a criminal (the raid was 3 blocks away from me) and damaged our grass
@THopkins44 Did mckinney-swatt smoke your grass? DooonneT be silly! Tyrannists are high on AUTHORITIIII SSS!
Oh, no, not the grass! 😮
Your elected leaders pass the laws to allow this foolishness...
BINGO!
A crime cartel masquerading as leaders
They represent the nation of israel. Not america. And its questionable if we actually elect them, since they clearly control ballot counters and always find just the number of votes they need to keep the aipac guys in office.
They pass laws that do not apply to them.
They are propaganda loving fools, the police union said we need this junk to keep you safe, how do we stay safe from them ?
Wasn't Vikki Baker the incident where her daughter offered to help with things like opening the garage door but they didn't want that, they wanted to break down the door with their armored vehicle.
Yep. They just wanted to play with their toys. I don’t think they actually expected the city to pay for anything. Usually the cards they hand out go directly to a lawyer for the municipal insurance company.
They aren't going to let a civilian approach the house when there is a violent fugitive inside.
@@miramichi30how do cop dicks taste?
@@miramichi30she had an electric garage door opener. She didn’t even need to go near the house. Someone in the swat team could have used the bleeper to open the garage.
Miramichi is a boot licker going up and down the comments here trying to argue for government abuse.
What tha….how much more corrupt can our country be? My goodness!
It is mind-boggling to realize that after 250 years there is no settled law in the United States. The same crimes and circumstances keep happening over and over and over and we decide each one Court by Court working our way up the ladder and each Court says yes or no and some of them contradict each other, anyway it's mind-boggling isn't it!.
If those who have power over you do not know yet alone respect the constitution then you have to wonder if we have one.
Yes a very convoluted system. Being of a suspicious nature, I have to wonder if that's on purpose...? 🤔
After SCOTUS decided against equity theft, Arizona and Minnesota introduced bills to let them keep stealing equity by giving homeowners a deadline to demand what's theirs. Arizona shtting all over the constitution does not surprise me, but say it ain't so Minnesota!
And it takes so long to get results
@@MeRiaNevaMynd well then let me help you raise your suspicion. Why is our legal system written in code the word code means words letters numbers or symbols used to obfuscate or hide the meaning of. A wise man once said, if a well-educated 6th grader can't understand it it shouldn't be a law
Never call cops to your house
Pretty much this, they are worthless anyhow
There is no situation that they will not make worse
“ We were just obeying orders “. How many years ago was this excuse rejected ? Why is is it that fairness integrity and justice is ignored in favor of saving bucks for “The Government “ Why are the courts bending over backward to defend the State ? Where is the unbiased and impartial dispensing of “ Justice without fear or favor ? “ .
Because the police, the DA, the court and the city are all on the same side. Only the plaintiff doesn't work for the city.
Expecting government to hold government accountable is ludicrous. They're gonna protect their own.
Qualified immunity = no accountability
These clowns are otta control
Courts always defend the government...they work together.
It's only gonna get worse.
This exactly. Look at the recent SCOTUS decisions and be afraid of the future.
I wouldn't be surprised if they give cops full immunity. The roberts court has been absolutely catastrophic for the country
I have been a paying monthly donor for six years. These folks are the true hero’s. These cases also get discussed in officer training. Together we all can help strike a reasonable balance of rights first and legal authority of justice processes.
They get Federal money to deploy and its a use it or lose it transfer.
Going to the right house seems like it would be easy for LE to figure out. Just order a pizza sent to the address and follow the delivery person. I guess following the delivery person without losing them could be a challenge that SWAT might have a problem with.
Hahahaha
“Implied exception” means WE MADE IT THE F%}* UP
"You break it, you bought it." It's such an old concept that everyone knows. And if you don't know it, you will learn it the hard way.
Did I get lucky? I sued NYC in 2013 in small claim court when city's Parks dept contractor destroyed my sidewalk while removing a large sidewalk tree stump, and won in arbitration. NYC Comptroller office played dirty. it waited until last week of an entire year, and denied my damage claim. It pissed me off so hard.
16:14 Wow. Two days without pay. Such a harsh punishment.
An appellate court sua sponte making up a new argument should be an immediate grounds for appeal to at least an en banc hearing. You don't ambush the appeals process as they just bring in their own facts with no rebuttal. Especially when you have a Jury finding.
Indeed. The judges are out of control
That guy should've claimed to be a squatter. He'd still be living there rent free.
The government has an easy out by requiring homeowners insurance to cover this type of thing since they claim immunity.
WHy are the insurance companies allowed to opt out of this?
because they wrote the policy
Insurance companies exist to collect premiums. Not pay out claims.
Well, ignorance of the law is no excuse, and if im an escape driver and some other guy committed some crimes, i would be charged with them too. Government needs to be held to a higher standard.
11:00 "If police officers are people of good will." They're not.
How would this case be different if instead of the dog being left deaf and blind it was the daughter or the hostage? These were excessive force against a dead suspect and an innocent family. Why do they arrest people this way when they don’t know who is inside?
Like Warzone, no consequences for them...
I just talked to five officers from five different municipality and they all know the city will not pay for swat damages they have cards for citizens to call for damages it goes right to a law office of their insurance company the attorneys take the damage clame from citizens then tells the insurance what to say on clames over certain amount it goes straight to denial and lower than that amount a certain percentage is offered like 20% is original offered then negotiations above that amount if a attorneys are involved then your original amount may get paid but now you have to pay for your attorneys fees which is all most the same as what you were asking for
I don't know why I'm somewhat surprised to hear this. I should know better. Underhanded methods in effect.
Thanks for sharing this
@MeRia035 YOUR welcome it's sad that our legal system is as crooked as any scam artist and what I found worse is the police who destroyed your property says omg I thought you would get reimbursement for our damages like they are completely innocent . It's all about who you know and your ability to hire one of the best lawyers in the country
Thank you IJ. Donation on the way.
I'm so thankful that people have you.
Thank you for what you all stand for and do!
Raiding the wrong location should itself be criminal negligence.
It would be similar if a cop seizes your vehicle in the middle of a police chase in order to stop the suspect yes? So the cop wouldn’t be liable but the city/county would be liable. It’s preposterous that cities don’t automatically recognize their liability. I can guarantee that if the police destroy the mayor’s home in an identical situation, the mayor guaranteed would be immediately compensated. Or a city council member, or a police officer’s home, or the DA’s home. That is what pisses me off most about this. Is that they exclusively don’t compensate people they don’t deem to be important enough or people they don’t believe can afford to fight them in court.
That is a very serious problem. Selective importance.
Such a conflict of interest throughout so many examples mentioned. Thank you for your efforts to alert and inform us all.
Are insurance companies forced into not covering government damages?? Seems odd to exclude. After paying the claimant,insurance companies go after the guilty party for compensation. Seems another way for government to be unaccountable.
As described in the video, homeowners insurance policies almost always have coverage exceptions for force majeure damage causes.
Are there any lists of lawyers that IJ has vetted so we citizenry can hire if we end up in these situations?
I’ve noticed that career criminals find lawyers that literally get violent abusers probation while innocent people are thrown to the wolves.
Every insurance contract excludes government damage because it's so common that they would go bankrupt if they paid the claims.
Without transparency, there can be no trust, without trust there can be no authority!
You allow police forces to obtain TANKS, they use it in a neighborhood to try and arrest ONE person.....I seee a problem,
If you take a hostage or something and its your house that the police damage, fine. But if it's a completely innocent party with no legal fault in the situation, the government ABSOLUTELY needs to pay up. This is ridiculous.
In the case with the apartment being on the third floor, where the police unable to contact the landlord or review building permits and or real estate transactions. I'm having trouble believing they couldn't figure out that was two apartments and which one was which.
DID THE IRS HAVE COMPLICITNESS LIKE THE POST-PIZZA PERSONEL DUD?
the insanity must end! glad you are fighting for sanity, accountability, and justice.
I love this dialogue; helps us understand what's going on here and broken down in a way that's easier to understand the law.
"implied exception", basically means we just make up whatever we want.
Yet every city/county council across the country defer to the cops they employ when it comes to money and policy. it's ridiculous.
It's almost unbelievable what's happening.
400k followers but I was the 112th like. Your channel needs more shares, likes and views.
It’s not even their money. It is ours. How they can get away with ruining lives on a daily basis is mind boggling
Because they generate revenue for the equally crooked city.
I don't understand why the home insurance company, doesn't fight this battle. This whole thing is unbelievable!
Keep up the quality content. Kudos to the editor, perfectly professional in tone, and I love when text on screen appears with an audio cue :).
Aww, shucks.
The basis for the implied exception is that the judge is misapplying and cherry picking case law in an attempt to negate a novel and effective argument.
I would argue that the best way to tackle this is for the FTC to step in and make a rule saying insurance cant exclude damage done by the government anymore. Make insurance do their actual job. Ignoring that tear gas is technically considered a war crime under the Geneva protocol why is it still being used against civilians by law enforcement in the first place?
Wny should the insurance company cover the incompetence of police? All of our premiums would all DRASTICALLY spike if this were the case. no, police just need to be smacked down and HARD. People, why are we paying taxes? Thats what funds these animals. Maybe we should all take a minute and think about where our taxes are going. Are you paying your taxes to fund this kind of behavior? No? put your money elsewhere.
How would I get justice if a former spouse is behind the not Swat team but the Suffolk county sheriff's department and staged a false eviction? Ditto other state government agencies and the federal government including the internal revenue?
Sorry,they are the Blue Line gang and it is a real thing.
Once they get you as a target you are screwed.
Stay safe.
Move away and live your life
It's frustrating but really you will waste half of your life fighting for justice and more than likely never get it.
Stay safe.
Try to move on.
SUCKS TO BE EWE!
Complaints to POST or whatever agency in that area, a complaint to the attorney general, of course an IA complaint, and finally a lawsuit. These last will require some resources, or help from some benevolent attorneys. Record and document everything.
If they aren't willing to pay damages they promised; what makes you think they'd pay you a bounty on a wanted person?
What if criminal walks in your house, you dont even know who he is, police trash your place with bullets and explosives and teargas, nobody cares for your life being ruined?
Criminals become the criminal court judge and can dismiss the cases against them
It is insane the government doesn’t fix their home!
How can the incident of attacking the wrong house be filled under "qualified” immunity?
The problem is.... the bar is set too low for NO Knock Warrants.... They DO Not need NO Knock Warrants in MOST Cases.
What is disgusting is you have to SUE them to pay for their own mistake and hurting innocent people.
“We expect more from pizza, delivery, drivers, Girl Scouts and plumbers…” better be somewhere in your closing argument! Sheesh that really brought it home
Thx’s for all you do. ❤
Shocking! Keep up the good work and I will give you guys at IJ an honorable mention and promote you in my book! ⚖️🤠👍 God bless!
Really appreciate IJ's work, however, could you please extend the time of the clarefication box just a few more seconds, please.
the solution to this is easy, Police departments should be REQUIRED to have insurance in the event they break the wrong door down, and an increase on their rates everytime they claim. If they force me to have car insurance ill force them to have wrong house insurance!
The city will only pay if you sue them. But to sue them you need to have money. The poor get F'd. I am surprised that SWAT doesn't cover damages. Don't they have insurance?
60 cans of tear gas? WTH.
Really simple, did you tear up one of We the Peoples property?
Did you have a completely lawful warrant for that property?
No.....
YOU ARE LIABLE......
If she was armed she could have legally protected her property and called the cops after justice was dispensed.
AGAINST A POLICE STATE, SUPPORTED WITH UP TO DATE WAR HARDWARE?
The number of people not coming out of these situations is shocking.