I had a customer rewire their own house and put a board in! He called me round because the RCD was tripping. The installation was immaculate and I couldn't fault it apart from switch heights (1400mm). The RCD was tripping because of a faulty coffee machine! Keep up the banter guys 🕺🏼🕺🏼
At 6 his 2 tel nos were dead! So looking for a decent one again, that dosnt lie , x will turn up. Do good Job, x then I can have a normal life with heat x hot water coming out of taps!. AND be able to switch a a light comes on!. Please . I phoned 9,to 5. Yesterday my supplier, was put through to all sorts of local experts. Asked where lady was x does she work for eon?, yes! She said. It was great to get a real person who didn't pass me on to recording of a deaf person that asks yes or no but dosnt hear answer,x puts me to somone who another one, so are you local as I asked the Welsh, Scottish, x Melton mulberry, locals,. ," where are you, ? " I Asked."SOUTH AFRICA"she replied. So I gave up x had late breakfast,x e mailed as recording said its faster easy, it didn't send message,so today I will send letters,x hope my supplier dosnt bin them. Then I will look for another expert that is expert?
I fully agree that a competent DIY-er is much better than a licensed hack. This is true across virtually any field - I used to work in the auto repair biz, I've seen some cringeworthy hack jobs from major dealers and manufacturer-certified mechanics (like the shop rag being used for an oil cap), and dealer-quality work from backyard mechanics that actually admit they had no idea what they were doing, but were otherwise mechanically-inclined, and "looked it up on the internet." Great tip on used blade disposal. I do the same myself. Saves your fingers, and the side of the bag you toss it in. FUN (but gross) FACT: Most older hotels in the US with a disposal slot in the wall for used razor blades actually have the old blades residing within the wall between two studs forever.
@@GoForGold256 then you had a VERY CHEAP one!!!! the prices or paying a cheap plumber are not mentioned ever!! i wonder why??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@irshicosmos3233 ah no. He was bloody expensive. And he charged me between $25-$50 for each joint fitting and I know they’re only $2-$15 at the wholesaler. End of the day, couldn’t trust him to come back and couldn’t afford to pay twice for another plumber to redo the work. Daylight robbery I believe they call it?
Absolutely, i did brakelines on my car a few years ago before MOT and the garage that checked it after said it looked superb, and even better then what they would have done them self. 🙂
It makes sense though. A competent and well-researched DIY installer will go to the effort to learn how to do it properly and usually has the impetus to carry it out correctly, because then he or she knows it has been done to a good standard. A botch-job electrician (or mechanic, or brickie) will take every shortcut to do it quickly and cheap. They're dire.
Fully agree to your DIY vs Certified electrician quality comment. Over here in NL we’re not tied to regs for domestic installs all too much. Even not for solar or EV. The quality you’ll see some of the ‘certified’ companies deliver is just shocking! So yes - a DIY with the proper level of care shoukd be able to get a very long way!
niet lullen. julliue ouwehoeren over kwaliteit maar zeggen nooit hoeveel je hebt betaalt. ik ga zeker voor een kwaliteits bedrijf met mijn magere portomonnee. maar weet dat ze goed werk leveren dan wel met garantie. ga je de goedkoopste bellen ja dan krijg je GEEN kwaliteit. tenzij je net die ENE monteur heb. ook nog een aandacht puntje. ga je huis zelf bedraden en je huis fikt af... succes met je VERZEKERING!!!
I’ve done 30 building projects in South Africa … and see the same. We have used 3 electricians / companies in the past and the work I felt was sub par. Not neat, conduit run at angles…. Lack of sufficient ties, clips or supports. The electricians usually just arrived and left their tog laborers to run the cable. Then came back at the end of the day and terminated to a spur or breaker. Ever since, I run my own cable, install my boxes and pre wire my plugs/lights or breakers. I then pay 1 hour for a certified electrician to terminate the connection. Which keeps my insurance cover and house compliant.
As a semicompetent DIYer, I know the feeling, as when you don’t do domestic wiring every day you always triple check any regulations before proceeding. It’s rather amusing though when you’re used to industrial installations, and some things are allowed in domestic installations, like loose wiring inside walls or dropped ceilings, that would never fly in an industrial setting.
It's interesting watching with Canadian eyes, because loose wires are absolutely not allowed here in residential. And all wires going into junction boxes or device boxes have to be clamped as well as clipped within a certain distance of the box. Seeing all the loose cables in walls and under cabinets and such is such a shock to my system! Haha
Fascinating to see electric and how it works in other parts of the world. As a fairly competent DIYer I can say that while it sometimes takes a lot more time and effort 99% of the time in my personal experience its done with more care and thought and I'm happier with the results. When you actually care about the work it makes a huge difference and unfortunately at least here in the states it feels like finding competent trades people who put as much care as you would into a job is extremely rare; regardless of how much they are charging. I know my limits and when I need to make a call but because of the above I've spent hundreds of hours now not just on UA-cam but in actual online courses to learn how to take care of my own home and do updates/upgrades of relatively significant size myself. That and I make as many friends in the trades as I can find.
In the past we had 3 different “professional electricians” come in and do work in new rooms we built…. Every single one of them simply dropped unskilled/tog labour who ran cable (which was not neat or straight). Ever since, I’ve run my own cable and conduit, laser levelled everything, used more ties, clips or support than they would ever use. Make sure my cable is stamped and rated (as I’ve seen electrical companies use off-brand chinese cable that is unmarked). I prewire everything at the DB and pay a registered electrician to terminate the breaker, to comply with code. Usually, they bill me 1 hour for their final work.
Rewiring your house own is allowed. Law requires you to be competent, not qualified. Qualification is supposed to be proof of competence. The law is this way so that those who have no money to pay an electrician can still improve their wiring (it's a safety issue and that includes a full rewire) and they are not blocked from doing this by the law. Can you imagine if someone is killed because they are prevented by the law because cannot afford to pay for improvements?
Rewiring your own property is allowed indeed. I rewired my small terraced house in Manchester. The way you do it is, bring Building control to inspect before, during and after. Then contact an electrician to provide you with a successful EICR and you get a certificate from Building control.
I WAS a 16-17-18Th ED qualified sparks before I retired working mainly on commercial electrical work. My employer wouldnt pay for me to get part P (Why would he?) so I paid to do Part P myself. and I was registered with my local Council in Hampshire as such. Back in 2017 my daughter bought a flat in Oxford. So I called the Oxford B/Control to check I was OK to go ahead as I did here. They said just crack on, certify the install and make sure I have my qualification Certs when I present my install Cert and I am good to go. Long story short, by the time she bought the flat and I got in to complete the install ( and fit the Kitchen/ Bathroom Etc.) 6 Months+ had passed. When I rang Oxford B/Control, I ended up having the get the "head of B/Control" out to the flat and had to spend 2 hours convincing him I knew my stuff!!!!! Long story short, he told me that B/c will no longer "sign off electrical installations as they are not qualified to sign off 3Rd party work because by so doing, they would be liable personally and commercially!" . He did THANKFULLY understand that I knew my stuff and did on THAT occasion sign off the installation as a 1 off ( After interrogation ) because of the fact I had enquired prior to commencement of the works. If I paid to join NICIEC -Napit then THEY (as the body) then become liable for assessing off my EIC's. I think I was lucky to get away with that. I checked with another sparks in Brighton who said that the B/Cs in his are would no longer accept. The moral of the story is..... ASSUME that the B/Control will NOT accept your Certs unless your a member of NICEIC Etc. ! I hope this helps!
Quite right Cory, the DNO should be required to supply an isolator on the customer side of the supply to allow safe isolation without pulling the DNO fuse.
You need to call energy supplier to install iso to outgoing tails, called a de-en/re-en. Actually illegal for anyone to pull cut-out fuse if not qualified, including sparks unless authorised...
I work for the local DNO where I live and as I understand it anything out the top of the cut out isn't legally ours to touch and is firstly the meter supplier tails and meter and then the internal tails to the consumer unit. I wholly agree there should be a solution to fit an isolation switch for domestic isolation from the main network but as I understand we can't just do that work ourselves at the point in the supply chain it would be required and I don't believe there's any regulatory requirement that we have to so making us shoulder the cost for work on a part of the circuit that isn't ours seems unreasonable unless OFGEM deem we should etc. Further to that I had a smart meter fitted and my meter supplier actually fitted double pole isolation switch on the out going meter tails for free of charge without even asking. I'd be interested on other peoples thoughts as I'm definitely on board with the idea but with the legal set up etc. I struggle to see how it would become the DNO responsibility.
I was doing a board change in the 90s in an area of Manchester where the houses were the first to be built with an electricity supply. I had an arrangement with Norweb to cut the seals and leave a completion certificate. Then I'd ring them up and they would come round and seal up the cutout. Well, I removed the main fuse having isolated the old CU. There was a small splash when I pulled the fuse but didn't think much more of it. About an hour later, there was a knock on the door. It was a Norweb geezer asking if my power was off. I explained it was as I was doing a board change. Ah, he replied, the whole row of houses downstream of this one have gone off too! Unbelievably, when they wired up the supplies, they had taken the feeds from the fused side so that pulling any fuse in the row would kill the power to the houses downstream!
Agree. Let's be fair, the whole Anti-DIY thing is often 'warranted'. As Jordan did say, sometimes however, there is an assumption dodgy work was done by a DIY'er, but was actually done by a 'proper' electrician who did not care. But they have taken a sensible approach imo. Its clear the person has taken significant care so the EICR followed by their work is ok. Maybe if it were me (as in the DIY'ER) i would bring in sparks for the EICR before closing up just to make it easier for the spark to do a full check of the cable runs. I KNOW why there is anti-DIY and I Do understand it and to an extent agree. But it is very situational and less 'pre-judgement' should be applied.
@@Thats_Mr_Random_Person_to_you Yes it's annoying, lots of bodgers out there, the guy who used to own my current place was one of them. Found some horrors here after I moved in and got the floor boards up for a mooch, he left old back boxes in cavities, CPCs disconnected, no fly leads, no grommets, under rated junctions on 32A ring for spurs which had got hot and resulted in melting, 1.5mm^2 on plug to porch light with 13A fuse (should have been on lighting circuit / at least a fused spur at 3A), exposed single conductors, lack of cable grips on ceiling roses, even simple things like light switches not being up the right way, the list goes on... Yes technically it all worked but in my opinion dangerous as hell... Got a trusted electrician in for EICR and paid him to fix all C1s and C2s and in much better place now and new CU with dual RCD / metal housing etc, fire risks addressed and so on... The C3s I fix as I go, mostly things like grommets missing on back boxes and identifying sleeving missing on switched lines etc... But yes, someone who doesn't know what they are doing but thinks they do is very dangerous and a recipe for disaster.
@@robputt totally agree. But there are 'certified' sparks who can also be just as bad if not worse. My 'gripe' and one I do see across a lot of different types of channel is the instant 'bad work == must be a diy'er' as it totally ignores a significant issue with the industry as a whole.... there are certified people doing unbearably dangerous work as well and they are technically doing it 'legally'. I do however, agree that they rightly refuse to certify work they didnt do (and I would certainly NEVER even advocate that people should). They are did the EICR to define the state of the install as it was before they arrived, and only signed off on their work. Building control would have had to be involved somewhere down the line and they are the ultimate 'arbitrator' if you know what I mean. Sparks certs end up at building control anyways who then rubber stamp and file away. So building control is also able to sign off on works as well without a spark. I for one would never, ever suggest to anyone to do their own rewire..... but I also am aware that I personally following 18th Ed. and with enough time, effort, and will could do a 1st fix up the the same standard as any spark. Repeating Jordan somewhat, its better for a spark to make a professional judgement based on the condition of the work they can see and talking to the client. If its clear from both talking to the client and the condition of the work that they are totally clued up, know what they've done, why they've made decisions they have etc. and genuinely have taken a lot of care and thought (and had covered the legals of notifiable work with building control - which is a clear indicator of someone doing everything they should) then this idea of 'i wont touch any work done by a DIY'er' (empathisis on 'any') is frustrating and a bit of crock.... (there is an assumption in thoes sorts of statement that no one is capable of drilling holes in joists and threading a piece of copper wrapped in various plastics, and fixing fire rated clips better than the spark... clearly significant numbers cannot, but thats not the same as none - this is all inside the frame of 1st fix. Lots of aspects of 2nd fix are very much outside these points) I personally wouldn't have closed up before the EICR as that makes it even better for the spark to see the work done and an opportunity for the client to explain any decisions made backed up with the appropriate regs etc.. This isn't aimed at any particular person or comment, just my general opinion.
@@robputt One of the dangers of the internet age- I recently had a former workmate and friend, who got a major belt from a DIY backyard spotlight... They had gone 'online' and wired a a backyard 150W 'portaflood' lamp base up- according to US wiring colours!!! Unfortunately, it meant that here in Australia- the switched active is white, and the neutral is black, where the US colour codes is white for neutral and black for 'live'.... Had this been a fully shrouded compliant lamp base- it wouldn't have been an issue... However this was one of those ES bases that 'I can see the metal on the bulb' ones without the shroud... the end result was that while climbing a ladder- he get a belt off the lamp from its exposed 'live' metal threads- and ended up lying on the lawn instead of being 3m up the ladder!!! Luckily he didn't land a metre to the side- as then he would have had his back land on a brick garden edge- hello wheelchair for the rest of your life possibly... :-(
DIY'er here. I am gradually sorting out my house, getting ride of crappy 70's, 80's and 90's wiring and past DIY bodges. I spend hours watching and learning before doing anything, and I also test with my multimeter and basic IR tester. I will need a CU change at some point, and I will get a spark to do that as I just don't have the test equipment to do it (to do RCD tests for example). We are not all bodgers, and I take pride in what I do.
Hi Guys, another good one ! ...btw...I work on the Smartmetering project and , yes, there are 69 API's associated with the control telemetry mechanisms of the meters and they include anti tamper, firmware updates , power failures etc. etc and more and more features get added as its 5 years now since they started and growth is expected to double from 6/7 million to 15 million shortly just for the south of engalnd ( the country is split into 2 - north is arqiva and south is controlled by TEF O2 ). Have fun
After watching this last night, had a dream I joined the artisan team and ended up doing a big job working away up on the northern Scottish coast with Cory 🤣.
I learned only recently that the K in Knipex isn’t silent! New to your channel and really enjoying your videos. Lovely to see someone/a team taking pride in their work. It’s rare these days. Far too many people out there who simply don’t care and leave the competent DIY’er wanting to do everything themselves.
A DIYer with a bit of experience and access to good information can do a good job - because they're happy to spend many hours getting things right. A qualified hack wants to do everything as quickly and cheaply as possible.
When I bought my house in Belgium I rewired the whole house together with my dad, regulations are readily available, so no big deal and both of us have sufficient electrical knowledge. In Belgium there is nothing against DIY your own electrics but in the end a independent company has to come by and check the installation and sign off on it.
Absolute pleasure to deal with UK Power Networks recently in prep for my EV charge point 1) they answer the phone without undue delay 2) the staff are friendly, knowledgeable, polite and not up their own arses 3) the installers (2 vans) arrived bang on time and we’re also friendly and efficient. All this to change my 60a fuse to 100 amps. If only the energy companies were this easy to deal with
I've heard from my workplace (Housing Association) that they have to pay a charge to the DNO for having an untrained person pull out the fuse... it makes no sense, if they don't want people doing it they should put isolators on them! Safety first and all.
@@martdaymo untrained person should not be pulling fuse must be select or eic registered as per electical regulations also electrician should not be working on electric meter as he is not authourised
I work for a DNO and have come across this many times. Legally we only own up to the top of the cut out before the meter therefore (even though it makes total logical and health and safety sense) we aren't legally allowed to touch any of the cables to the meter or from it so fitting an isolation switch is simply something we are not allowed to do without being asked to (which then becomes chargeable due taking up our normal working hours time) or in situations where safety is a concern with customers installations in specific scenarios. Further to that the logistics of retrofitting the millions of meter points in the UK with isolation switches is a mammoth task. A lot of problems like this are around because of how cut outs and meter point legal set ups were agreed on in the past before it became obvious common sense to need such isolation switches. There's lots of stuff out there 50-60 years old still.
I tell you now Corey is a seriously good spark his attention detail is second to none when it don’t work out with Jordan I’ll take you on mate London based
I feel what is fundamental is to have an understanding of electricity and physics somewhat. I’ve found most electricians know procedure and code but don’t really know the how or why and that makes them dangerous operating outside of competent supervision . Also house wiring is a different beast altogether and I hate following up another’s work trying to figure out what crazy scheme they used by just looking at wall boxes.
I pull service fuses everyday where smart meters are fitted to fit the wylex spd isolators as we fit them on every installation at the council now and I've never ever ever had anyone rock up and that's with the power off sometimes for days at a time and they have never turned up.
As long as you notify building control, you are allowed to do the electrical work yourself. The issue starts when people don't know their limits and botch the work and then don't notify building control.... Then again, some of the worst electrical work i've seen has been done by "certified" electricians, so the door swings both ways. I suppose until people start going to jail or being fined proper amounts of money for breaking electrical regs in the way you can go to jail for mucking about with the gas then people will always have a crack and make a mess of things.....
Even if it was a small job, can you still get a mwc of building control or is it just for the notifiable areas consumer unit, new circuit, bathroom etc
And thats the thing... building control sub contract out their inspection work.... to a sparkie to sign off.... now as you are not able to sign off other peoples work, how does that work??
Hi Jordan, always watch the videos, many thanks. Yes when my Powerwall and Zappi were installed and the main fuse pulled my DNO, Western Power turned up within 15 minutes even though I had the correct permission. Yes have Smart meters.I showed the email giving permission and they left happy!!
I keep hearing about this 30 minute DNO smart meter story. If the power goes on the meter then they can see it and they will be round. I have worked with DNO'S and they can't see as much as you think. They have bugger all staff and a lot of 3rd party contractors. The metering world is split into many different companies that most people don't know about behind the scenes. Also, even on an emergency call out the DNO will rarely be there in a few hours let alone racing to the scene.
I 100% agree with lack of staff, 😂 however we do get notified by meter suppliers in the event a smart meter loses power and have to investigate it as its deemed that its a power cut from our network until we attend and work out why its happened. You are right that we don't always attend quickly but on some occasions it does happen and I've caught electricians "red handed" as it were. I normally just do a slap on the wrist and make them aware. There really should be an isolation switch to make safe the domestic side.
I think it comes down to a combination of pride (that you guys also clearly have in your work) and the idea that you have to live with the consequences of your work. I was split when Part P came in as I considered myself capable of undertaking safely certain electrical works (I live in France and my house is wired to the French wiring standard and has passed inspection by the state), but I've also seen the state of some "amateur" jobs and do feel that electricity is just something you shouldn't muck around with if you're not certain that you know what you're doing.
Adding circuit, replacing consumer unit or rewiring the whole house is notifiable work and needs Building Regulations Compliance Certificate which can be obtained by Part P certified upon completion. It doesn't say it cannot be done yourself no need to mislead people.
I work for a DNO and it is really common for our call center to receive "Pings" from smart meters which have no supply. Although depending on the smart meter depends how fast we receive the notification. We have known it in some circumstances to take up to a few days. But rest assured in our district atleast, we understand that its the safest way to isolate the supply. Although it can depend on the engineer that arrives. The rules ideally need changing but we would hate for someone to get injured if our equipment failed.
Cory nailed it on the biscuit nationalism. I was once requested to leave Australia because of passing a comment: "What? No chocolate biscuits?" . Think I touched on a sore spot. True story.
I rewired my house 38 years ago. I put in 4 ring mains 3 lighting circuits. It is still in place . I left the house 14 years later but it still stands with no fires. I had the elec board connect up the consumer unit. They seemed happy enough. But you really do need to do it very carefully.
A messy van is a pet hate of mine. My van was always the most tidy, cleanest, best organised. It's a constant cause of frustration that our house is always messy (Clutter, washing hanging of curtain rails, shoes everywhere etc.)
Used to be fault technician for dno, we didn’t have anything ti do with meters, down to supplier. Having said that, missing seals were never really bothered about.
I hade rewired my whole house, I had a EICR done, minor remedial work required, done the remedials myself and passed. I wouldn't recommend anyone doing it if they do not know the latest wiring regs. Electric CAN KILL.
Be careful when buying them some customers take blades out x put knife back to get free blades! , I saw this!. So check they have spare blades in handle before buying. Best to get the plastic covered ones they sell now,
Part P states the following: 'An installer who is not a registered competent person may use a registered third party to certify notifiable electrical installation work as an alternative to using a building control body.'
I`ve always been conflicted on who is my fav, Corey or Jordan..it has plagued me now since i found this channel..but today, finally this video has made it clear. The moment i saw Jordan clean the van floor, i knew he was my guy..
I loved this video,😊 Cory almost had Jordan with the prank but I think that he should have told the camera guy to make the prank call instead😉. Nice install with the consumer unit & EV Charger. Good stuff,👍🏼 So BASICALLY, the pen Cory had is a potential BABE Magnet? 🤔 Respect from the Scottish Fried Mars Bar.🏴🤣😂🤣.
Good video guys. To answer your question the DNO do sometimes come if you pull the fuse and there’s a smart meter fitted. They have been pretty relaxed about it though. I nearly always try and pursued the customer to have a isolator fitted. However, cost for the fitting of DP isolator has gone from £84 to £203 in four years so more of a hard sell.
Fantastic I re wired a house that had a new fitted kitchen and the hob, fridge, dishwasher, washing machine and all the kitchen sockets were on a 40amp fuse on a 2.5mm single cable no ring I was amazed it had not melted
I rewired a previous house . Telecoms, Electrics, Security. The electrics was mainly just swapping out the switches, sockets, and light fittings, but also involved some intricate wiring to a few bits. Not a difficult job for anyone with basic skills. I get what DashCamAndy said in his post I also started out in mechanics and got to the end of an apprenticeship b4 falling foul to cancer, so retrained in electronics. Much better to give it a go yourself if you care to imo. Double switched is not standard here but I did use it on my last property as the cost and work was next to no difference .
Installation and rewiring is allowed under building control legislation; it is up to building control to determine your competency. There is a considerable difference between being a qualified electrician and knowing and understanding what you are doing. A person who is building their own home ( not just managing the build ) is likely, to a large extent, to know what they are doing and seek information or advice as required as they know that the main persons they are putting at risk are themselves and their family. This I think is borne out by the householder getting you in to test their installation , this being an easier route to BC acceptance. Your positive attitude and open mind to the possibility that this installer knows what he is doing , if unqualified, does you credit.
I think the thing with smart meter is only if customers are elderly as they called customer that I pulled DNO fuse to see everything was ok and they informed them I was fitting solar and air source heat pump and had to do it to isolate even tho our company is supposedly meant to inform them before….
Love the videos, but please be accurate! DIY electrics are not illegal in England, but, in certain circumstances, it is notifiable (controlled) building work. So the local authority has to be advised in advance of the start of the work (where applicable) and/or a qualified third party must certify the work is compliant with the building regulations.
Jordan says, 'Naughty, naughty' at competent man wiring his own house, while he himself pulls the main fuse and says there is no other option. Hypocrite?
Start using the cable heat detectors on the main tails. Nice touch for consumer units to show load and heat concerns early. Mr Meenan and Sparky ninja have been using them recently I frankly think they are a great idea.
Fused BEFORE the meter is also Weird, we have main breakers AFTER meter, anything up to the meter is utility responsibility, thus we shut it off AFTER the meter
Yep, we're legally not supposed to tamper with seals on meter, main head or pull the incomer fuse. We still all do it all the time though, not like we can sit around and wait for the supplier/UK Power Networks to pop round and fit a DP isolator! Nor should we have to pay, it should be standard equipment renewal on their part
Totally agree with making sure what you put up can be used by climbers. Because children will climb and they will grab anything grabable without thinking about structural integrity.
Great video guys. Well done Cory. 16:20 in the video. Chocolate covered Hobnob lol...... Hey I see you installing a Hager CU, hanging on the wall in the background. What do you think of Hager stuff? Just curious. I work for Hager, I designed and built the assembly lines that produce 5000 of these consumer units a week. I would say Hager consumer units are the chocolate covered Hobnobs of CU's.......hope you agree.
Yes if pull the main fuse with a smart meter they do know .. had them out to fit me an isolation switch on a job and they told me this .. getting an isolation switch fitted is not cheap ..... and i also bend over my copper wires on smaller cable sizes .. . Nice bit of work there 👍👍👍
With regards to the smart meter thing, they have a built in "blink counter" and will report to the grid operator when main power has been lost. The DNO didn't rock up because they thought there was a power cut (they knew there wasn't as the rest of the meters will still be online) they wanted to see evidence of tampering.
Quite right in Smart Meters reporting a loss of power. However we (I work for a DNO myself) don't automatically know if its people pulling fuses compared to a full power cut. It's entirely possible someone service joint and cable has faulted and affects only them. We call them One Off No Supply calls and investigate it as such but we definitely have a fair share of electricians doing just these. We normally just do a slap on the wrist and don't take it too seriously.
Interesting statements regarding what a customer can and can't do. I know here in New Zealand that unless something has changed in the last few years since I had my house done that a DIYer can run his own wires and I believe even do basic connection like sockets and switches and the like but it all has to be inspected and signed off by someone qualified. Also a DIYer is not allowed to make any connections to your mains supply such as a connecting new circuits to breakers or stuff like that.
DIYer, who is for example equipment tech - can teach you and other electricians a lot of things! I for once taught whole lot of electricians about In-rush current, and basically all the intricacies of AC current when it comes to induction and capacitive reaction, harmonics and other power quality stuff. Equipment techs who works on equipment that brought from all over the world have no choice but learn NEC/NFPA70, IEC, I even had get in to VDE ( wasn’t easy, because I don’t know German) IEEE, and who knows what else they’ll make us learn!
I have a builder who likes to throw cables in when we are off site and then overboard them, occasionally i go round with the circuit finder to check the zoning and have found diagonal routes often. I've told him he can't 1st fix anymore. If you let people 1st fix in your name, they will cut corners.
Don't be bribed by Pringles because he's a viewer of your channel. You should tell him you're not interested in helping him workaround a non-compliant install, just because there's confusion around install certification and EICR's.
I do not like the tesla charger cable right on the floor, would put it low in the wall. And the big drill hole should be angled up inwards (to prevent water/moisture in).
Thoroughly enjoyed that, your the sort of company i would have liked to have worked for. But sadly i only managed it once, There are far too many cowboy types out there interested in getting the job done, and make as much cash a possible,But you guys take so much time to get it right every time,.
Hopefully I would pass, I did my apprenticeship but i haven't done my 236 (I failed on mathematics) but i have a competent electrician, I have always worked for niceic registered companies and have lost count of house rewires, have rewired warehouses with steal conduit, worked on loads of 3 phase, my pyro is dead straight the same as any wiring also rewired a factory & offices once, I take so much pride in my work. and remember the cable clip should support the cable and not the nail! (yeah i did pick up a lot while i was in collage as well)
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I had a customer rewire their own house and put a board in! He called me round because the RCD was tripping. The installation was immaculate and I couldn't fault it apart from switch heights (1400mm). The RCD was tripping because of a faulty coffee machine! Keep up the banter guys 🕺🏼🕺🏼
Whats the fault with a 1400mm switch height on a rewire?
At 6 his 2 tel nos were dead! So looking for a decent one again, that dosnt lie , x will turn up. Do good Job, x then I can have a normal life with heat x hot water coming out of taps!. AND be able to switch a a light comes on!. Please . I phoned 9,to 5. Yesterday my supplier, was put through to all sorts of local experts. Asked where lady was x does she work for eon?, yes! She said. It was great to get a real person who didn't pass me on to recording of a deaf person that asks yes or no but dosnt hear answer,x puts me to somone who another one, so are you local as I asked the Welsh, Scottish, x Melton mulberry, locals,. ," where are you, ? " I Asked."SOUTH AFRICA"she replied. So I gave up x had late breakfast,x e mailed as recording said its faster easy, it didn't send message,so today I will send letters,x hope my supplier dosnt bin them. Then I will look for another expert that is expert?
@@antoinettehellyer9522 I'll be honest i read about 3 lines then stopped.
@@alhughes9698 Sorry
@@alhughes9698 No fault really, the customer just requested the switches a little higher throughout the house.
I fully agree that a competent DIY-er is much better than a licensed hack. This is true across virtually any field - I used to work in the auto repair biz, I've seen some cringeworthy hack jobs from major dealers and manufacturer-certified mechanics (like the shop rag being used for an oil cap), and dealer-quality work from backyard mechanics that actually admit they had no idea what they were doing, but were otherwise mechanically-inclined, and "looked it up on the internet."
Great tip on used blade disposal. I do the same myself. Saves your fingers, and the side of the bag you toss it in.
FUN (but gross) FACT: Most older hotels in the US with a disposal slot in the wall for used razor blades actually have the old blades residing within the wall between two studs forever.
Yup. I recently paid a plumber to do some work I couldn’t do without a ticket and he made such a mess I redid half of it after he left.
@@GoForGold256 then you had a VERY CHEAP one!!!! the prices or paying a cheap plumber are not mentioned ever!! i wonder why??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@irshicosmos3233 ah no. He was bloody expensive. And he charged me between $25-$50 for each joint fitting and I know they’re only $2-$15 at the wholesaler.
End of the day, couldn’t trust him to come back and couldn’t afford to pay twice for another plumber to redo the work. Daylight robbery I believe they call it?
Absolutely, i did brakelines on my car a few years ago before MOT and the garage that checked it after said it looked superb, and even better then what they would have done them self. 🙂
It makes sense though. A competent and well-researched DIY installer will go to the effort to learn how to do it properly and usually has the impetus to carry it out correctly, because then he or she knows it has been done to a good standard. A botch-job electrician (or mechanic, or brickie) will take every shortcut to do it quickly and cheap. They're dire.
You guys are encroaching on my patch, I think I need to give Jordan a ring
Confident Adam and yourself could take them in a flight.
I might have a similar job one day 🙄 im not far 😂😂😂
Do you go as far as Coventry?
Hes been using that Bundy10 discount code so now he can afford to undercut you
@@1mannik I doubt it with his prices!
Fully agree to your DIY vs Certified electrician quality comment. Over here in NL we’re not tied to regs for domestic installs all too much. Even not for solar or EV. The quality you’ll see some of the ‘certified’ companies deliver is just shocking!
So yes - a DIY with the proper level of care shoukd be able to get a very long way!
niet lullen. julliue ouwehoeren over kwaliteit maar zeggen nooit hoeveel je hebt betaalt. ik ga zeker voor een kwaliteits bedrijf met mijn magere portomonnee. maar weet dat ze goed werk leveren dan wel met garantie. ga je de goedkoopste bellen ja dan krijg je GEEN kwaliteit. tenzij je net die ENE monteur heb. ook nog een aandacht puntje. ga je huis zelf bedraden en je huis fikt af... succes met je VERZEKERING!!!
I’ve done 30 building projects in South Africa … and see the same.
We have used 3 electricians / companies in the past and the work I felt was sub par. Not neat, conduit run at angles…. Lack of sufficient ties, clips or supports. The electricians usually just arrived and left their tog laborers to run the cable. Then came back at the end of the day and terminated to a spur or breaker.
Ever since, I run my own cable, install my boxes and pre wire my plugs/lights or breakers. I then pay 1 hour for a certified electrician to terminate the connection. Which keeps my insurance cover and house compliant.
As a semicompetent DIYer, I know the feeling, as when you don’t do domestic wiring every day you always triple check any regulations before proceeding. It’s rather amusing though when you’re used to industrial installations, and some things are allowed in domestic installations, like loose wiring inside walls or dropped ceilings, that would never fly in an industrial setting.
It's interesting watching with Canadian eyes, because loose wires are absolutely not allowed here in residential. And all wires going into junction boxes or device boxes have to be clamped as well as clipped within a certain distance of the box. Seeing all the loose cables in walls and under cabinets and such is such a shock to my system! Haha
Fascinating to see electric and how it works in other parts of the world. As a fairly competent DIYer I can say that while it sometimes takes a lot more time and effort 99% of the time in my personal experience its done with more care and thought and I'm happier with the results. When you actually care about the work it makes a huge difference and unfortunately at least here in the states it feels like finding competent trades people who put as much care as you would into a job is extremely rare; regardless of how much they are charging.
I know my limits and when I need to make a call but because of the above I've spent hundreds of hours now not just on UA-cam but in actual online courses to learn how to take care of my own home and do updates/upgrades of relatively significant size myself. That and I make as many friends in the trades as I can find.
In the past we had 3 different “professional electricians” come in and do work in new rooms we built…. Every single one of them simply dropped unskilled/tog labour who ran cable (which was not neat or straight).
Ever since, I’ve run my own cable and conduit, laser levelled everything, used more ties, clips or support than they would ever use. Make sure my cable is stamped and rated (as I’ve seen electrical companies use off-brand chinese cable that is unmarked).
I prewire everything at the DB and pay a registered electrician to terminate the breaker, to comply with code. Usually, they bill me 1 hour for their final work.
Rewiring your house own is allowed. Law requires you to be competent, not qualified. Qualification is supposed to be proof of competence. The law is this way so that those who have no money to pay an electrician can still improve their wiring (it's a safety issue and that includes a full rewire) and they are not blocked from doing this by the law. Can you imagine if someone is killed because they are prevented by the law because cannot afford to pay for improvements?
Rewiring your own property is allowed indeed. I rewired my small terraced house in Manchester. The way you do it is, bring Building control to inspect before, during and after. Then contact an electrician to provide you with a successful EICR and you get a certificate from Building control.
I WAS a 16-17-18Th ED qualified sparks before I retired working mainly on commercial electrical work. My employer wouldnt pay for me to get part P (Why would he?) so I paid to do Part P myself. and I was registered with my local Council in Hampshire as such.
Back in 2017 my daughter bought a flat in Oxford. So I called the Oxford B/Control to check I was OK to go ahead as I did here. They said just crack on, certify the install and make sure I have my qualification Certs when I present my install Cert and I am good to go.
Long story short, by the time she bought the flat and I got in to complete the install ( and fit the Kitchen/ Bathroom Etc.) 6 Months+ had passed.
When I rang Oxford B/Control, I ended up having the get the "head of B/Control" out to the flat and had to spend 2 hours convincing him I knew my stuff!!!!! Long story short, he told me that B/c will no longer "sign off electrical installations as they are not qualified to sign off 3Rd party work because by so doing, they would be liable personally and commercially!" . He did THANKFULLY understand that I knew my stuff and did on THAT occasion sign off the installation as a 1 off ( After interrogation ) because of the fact I had enquired prior to commencement of the works. If I paid to join NICIEC -Napit then THEY (as the body) then become liable for assessing off my EIC's.
I think I was lucky to get away with that. I checked with another sparks in Brighton who said that the B/Cs in his are would no longer accept.
The moral of the story is..... ASSUME that the B/Control will NOT accept your Certs unless your a member of NICEIC Etc. !
I hope this helps!
Quite right Cory, the DNO should be required to supply an isolator on the customer side of the supply to allow safe isolation without pulling the DNO fuse.
You need to call energy supplier to install iso to outgoing tails, called a de-en/re-en. Actually illegal for anyone to pull cut-out fuse if not qualified, including sparks unless authorised...
I work for the local DNO where I live and as I understand it anything out the top of the cut out isn't legally ours to touch and is firstly the meter supplier tails and meter and then the internal tails to the consumer unit. I wholly agree there should be a solution to fit an isolation switch for domestic isolation from the main network but as I understand we can't just do that work ourselves at the point in the supply chain it would be required and I don't believe there's any regulatory requirement that we have to so making us shoulder the cost for work on a part of the circuit that isn't ours seems unreasonable unless OFGEM deem we should etc. Further to that I had a smart meter fitted and my meter supplier actually fitted double pole isolation switch on the out going meter tails for free of charge without even asking. I'd be interested on other peoples thoughts as I'm definitely on board with the idea but with the legal set up etc. I struggle to see how it would become the DNO responsibility.
@@tiggerthegreeb yep, making the DNO responsible for safety in regard to an isolator would be totally unreasonable!
When did they stop putting isolators in. Most places I've seen have them really ancient metal box isolators
I was doing a board change in the 90s in an area of Manchester where the houses were the first to be built with an electricity supply. I had an arrangement with Norweb to cut the seals and leave a completion certificate. Then I'd ring them up and they would come round and seal up the cutout. Well, I removed the main fuse having isolated the old CU. There was a small splash when I pulled the fuse but didn't think much more of it.
About an hour later, there was a knock on the door. It was a Norweb geezer asking if my power was off. I explained it was as I was doing a board change. Ah, he replied, the whole row of houses downstream of this one have gone off too!
Unbelievably, when they wired up the supplies, they had taken the feeds from the fused side so that pulling any fuse in the row would kill the power to the houses downstream!
Funny how a guy with reasonable skills puts a lot of love into their own house ;-)
Agree. Let's be fair, the whole Anti-DIY thing is often 'warranted'. As Jordan did say, sometimes however, there is an assumption dodgy work was done by a DIY'er, but was actually done by a 'proper' electrician who did not care.
But they have taken a sensible approach imo. Its clear the person has taken significant care so the EICR followed by their work is ok. Maybe if it were me (as in the DIY'ER) i would bring in sparks for the EICR before closing up just to make it easier for the spark to do a full check of the cable runs.
I KNOW why there is anti-DIY and I Do understand it and to an extent agree. But it is very situational and less 'pre-judgement' should be applied.
@@Thats_Mr_Random_Person_to_you Yes it's annoying, lots of bodgers out there, the guy who used to own my current place was one of them. Found some horrors here after I moved in and got the floor boards up for a mooch, he left old back boxes in cavities, CPCs disconnected, no fly leads, no grommets, under rated junctions on 32A ring for spurs which had got hot and resulted in melting, 1.5mm^2 on plug to porch light with 13A fuse (should have been on lighting circuit / at least a fused spur at 3A), exposed single conductors, lack of cable grips on ceiling roses, even simple things like light switches not being up the right way, the list goes on... Yes technically it all worked but in my opinion dangerous as hell... Got a trusted electrician in for EICR and paid him to fix all C1s and C2s and in much better place now and new CU with dual RCD / metal housing etc, fire risks addressed and so on... The C3s I fix as I go, mostly things like grommets missing on back boxes and identifying sleeving missing on switched lines etc... But yes, someone who doesn't know what they are doing but thinks they do is very dangerous and a recipe for disaster.
@@robputt totally agree. But there are 'certified' sparks who can also be just as bad if not worse. My 'gripe' and one I do see across a lot of different types of channel is the instant 'bad work == must be a diy'er' as it totally ignores a significant issue with the industry as a whole.... there are certified people doing unbearably dangerous work as well and they are technically doing it 'legally'.
I do however, agree that they rightly refuse to certify work they didnt do (and I would certainly NEVER even advocate that people should). They are did the EICR to define the state of the install as it was before they arrived, and only signed off on their work. Building control would have had to be involved somewhere down the line and they are the ultimate 'arbitrator' if you know what I mean. Sparks certs end up at building control anyways who then rubber stamp and file away. So building control is also able to sign off on works as well without a spark.
I for one would never, ever suggest to anyone to do their own rewire..... but I also am aware that I personally following 18th Ed. and with enough time, effort, and will could do a 1st fix up the the same standard as any spark.
Repeating Jordan somewhat, its better for a spark to make a professional judgement based on the condition of the work they can see and talking to the client. If its clear from both talking to the client and the condition of the work that they are totally clued up, know what they've done, why they've made decisions they have etc. and genuinely have taken a lot of care and thought (and had covered the legals of notifiable work with building control - which is a clear indicator of someone doing everything they should) then this idea of 'i wont touch any work done by a DIY'er' (empathisis on 'any') is frustrating and a bit of crock.... (there is an assumption in thoes sorts of statement that no one is capable of drilling holes in joists and threading a piece of copper wrapped in various plastics, and fixing fire rated clips better than the spark... clearly significant numbers cannot, but thats not the same as none - this is all inside the frame of 1st fix. Lots of aspects of 2nd fix are very much outside these points)
I personally wouldn't have closed up before the EICR as that makes it even better for the spark to see the work done and an opportunity for the client to explain any decisions made backed up with the appropriate regs etc..
This isn't aimed at any particular person or comment, just my general opinion.
@@robputt One of the dangers of the internet age- I recently had a former workmate and friend, who got a major belt from a DIY backyard spotlight... They had gone 'online' and wired a a backyard 150W 'portaflood' lamp base up- according to US wiring colours!!! Unfortunately, it meant that here in Australia- the switched active is white, and the neutral is black, where the US colour codes is white for neutral and black for 'live'.... Had this been a fully shrouded compliant lamp base- it wouldn't have been an issue... However this was one of those ES bases that 'I can see the metal on the bulb' ones without the shroud... the end result was that while climbing a ladder- he get a belt off the lamp from its exposed 'live' metal threads- and ended up lying on the lawn instead of being 3m up the ladder!!! Luckily he didn't land a metre to the side- as then he would have had his back land on a brick garden edge- hello wheelchair for the rest of your life possibly... :-(
DIY'er here. I am gradually sorting out my house, getting ride of crappy 70's, 80's and 90's wiring and past DIY bodges. I spend hours watching and learning before doing anything, and I also test with my multimeter and basic IR tester. I will need a CU change at some point, and I will get a spark to do that as I just don't have the test equipment to do it (to do RCD tests for example). We are not all bodgers, and I take pride in what I do.
That consumer unit wiring is seriously next level. Holy quacca coryyy
Hi Guys, another good one ! ...btw...I work on the Smartmetering project and , yes, there are 69 API's associated with the control telemetry mechanisms of the meters and they include anti tamper, firmware updates , power failures etc. etc and more and more features get added as its 5 years now since they started and growth is expected to double from 6/7 million to 15 million shortly just for the south of engalnd ( the country is split into 2 - north is arqiva and south is controlled by TEF O2 ). Have fun
Cool thanks for sharing
After watching this last night, had a dream I joined the artisan team and ended up doing a big job working away up on the northern Scottish coast with Cory 🤣.
I learned only recently that the K in Knipex isn’t silent!
New to your channel and really enjoying your videos. Lovely to see someone/a team taking pride in their work. It’s rare these days. Far too many people out there who simply don’t care and leave the competent DIY’er wanting to do everything themselves.
A DIYer with a bit of experience and access to good information can do a good job - because they're happy to spend many hours getting things right. A qualified hack wants to do everything as quickly and cheaply as possible.
The work you guys do looks so enjoyable. Construction site work has become an absolute chore to be able to enjoy. Class videos.
When I bought my house in Belgium I rewired the whole house together with my dad, regulations are readily available, so no big deal and both of us have sufficient electrical knowledge. In Belgium there is nothing against DIY your own electrics but in the end a independent company has to come by and check the installation and sign off on it.
Same in the UK!
Wish I could say the same for Sweden, but here everything permanently installed is certified sparks only.
Absolute pleasure to deal with UK Power Networks recently in prep for my EV charge point 1) they answer the phone without undue delay 2) the staff are friendly, knowledgeable, polite and not up their own arses 3) the installers (2 vans) arrived bang on time and we’re also friendly and efficient. All this to change my 60a fuse to 100 amps. If only the energy companies were this easy to deal with
Maybe Openreach could learn a thing or two from UKPN - it's the same principle ;)
I've had that before with the smart meter situation (I work for a DNO) and it was quite handy because we actually did get a fault in the area
I've heard from my workplace (Housing Association) that they have to pay a charge to the DNO for having an untrained person pull out the fuse... it makes no sense, if they don't want people doing it they should put isolators on them! Safety first and all.
They don't put a isolator in because they want to charge you for doing so.
@@martdaymo untrained person should not be pulling fuse must be select or eic registered as per electical regulations also electrician should not be working on electric meter as he is not authourised
I work for a DNO and have come across this many times. Legally we only own up to the top of the cut out before the meter therefore (even though it makes total logical and health and safety sense) we aren't legally allowed to touch any of the cables to the meter or from it so fitting an isolation switch is simply something we are not allowed to do without being asked to (which then becomes chargeable due taking up our normal working hours time) or in situations where safety is a concern with customers installations in specific scenarios. Further to that the logistics of retrofitting the millions of meter points in the UK with isolation switches is a mammoth task. A lot of problems like this are around because of how cut outs and meter point legal set ups were agreed on in the past before it became obvious common sense to need such isolation switches. There's lots of stuff out there 50-60 years old still.
Tidiest consumer install I have ever seen pure art and safe Corey you are a legend ❤
I tell you now Corey is a seriously good spark his attention detail is second to none when it don’t work out with Jordan I’ll take you on mate London based
You ain’t poaching him mate! 😆
@@artisanelectrics money talks Jordan 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@marklivingstone3121 in London you would need to pay him six figures minimum and housing benefit, Cambridge is not too far off though.
Everyone who lives in a house should learn basic house wiring.
I feel what is fundamental is to have an understanding of electricity and physics somewhat. I’ve found most electricians know procedure and code but don’t really know the how or why and that makes them dangerous operating outside of competent supervision . Also house wiring is a different beast altogether and I hate following up another’s work trying to figure out what crazy scheme they used by just looking at wall boxes.
I pull service fuses everyday where smart meters are fitted to fit the wylex spd isolators as we fit them on every installation at the council now and I've never ever ever had anyone rock up and that's with the power off sometimes for days at a time and they have never turned up.
The DNO may say they’ve come because of a power cut but the truth is they rock up to see if the supply is being tampered with.
With plasterboard, an easier way to mark them is put the board against the box and give it a smack......indents the board and you cut it out
This cookie cutter approach sounds good.
You could make yourself a wooden template and take it wherever it's needed.
Yeah I wouldn’t mind seeing a video on your unit it’s always nice to see how other people lay out there units/storage
Coming soon!
As long as you notify building control, you are allowed to do the electrical work yourself.
The issue starts when people don't know their limits and botch the work and then don't notify building control....
Then again, some of the worst electrical work i've seen has been done by "certified" electricians, so the door swings both ways.
I suppose until people start going to jail or being fined proper amounts of money for breaking electrical regs in the way you can go to jail for mucking about with the gas then people will always have a crack and make a mess of things.....
Even if it was a small job, can you still get a mwc of building control or is it just for the notifiable areas consumer unit, new circuit, bathroom etc
And thats the thing... building control sub contract out their inspection work.... to a sparkie to sign off.... now as you are not able to sign off other peoples work, how does that work??
laughable system, isn’t it?
Hi Jordan, always watch the videos, many thanks. Yes when my Powerwall and Zappi were installed and the main fuse pulled my DNO, Western Power turned up within 15 minutes even though I had the correct permission. Yes have Smart meters.I showed the email giving permission and they left happy!!
The Cory & Jordan Comedy half hour 👍
I keep hearing about this 30 minute DNO smart meter story. If the power goes on the meter then they can see it and they will be round. I have worked with DNO'S and they can't see as much as you think. They have bugger all staff and a lot of 3rd party contractors. The metering world is split into many different companies that most people don't know about behind the scenes. Also, even on an emergency call out the DNO will rarely be there in a few hours let alone racing to the scene.
I 100% agree with lack of staff, 😂 however we do get notified by meter suppliers in the event a smart meter loses power and have to investigate it as its deemed that its a power cut from our network until we attend and work out why its happened. You are right that we don't always attend quickly but on some occasions it does happen and I've caught electricians "red handed" as it were. I normally just do a slap on the wrist and make them aware. There really should be an isolation switch to make safe the domestic side.
I think it comes down to a combination of pride (that you guys also clearly have in your work) and the idea that you have to live with the consequences of your work. I was split when Part P came in as I considered myself capable of undertaking safely certain electrical works (I live in France and my house is wired to the French wiring standard and has passed inspection by the state), but I've also seen the state of some "amateur" jobs and do feel that electricity is just something you shouldn't muck around with if you're not certain that you know what you're doing.
you guys without doubt are the best on UA-cam, just love all your videos. I wanna see the unit and also i vote YES for new van racking for Cory's van
8:30 i always blunt the blade before taping it for extra safety. just rubbing it on some stone or such, not forgetting the edges, easy
Adding circuit, replacing consumer unit or rewiring the whole house is notifiable work and needs Building Regulations Compliance Certificate which can be obtained by Part P certified upon completion. It doesn't say it cannot be done yourself no need to mislead people.
Seeing you guys having fun on the job makes it fun to watch. And yes, doing the unnecessary little bits and bobs is pleasurable.
Love to see your storage unit, lads.
I work for a DNO and it is really common for our call center to receive "Pings" from smart meters which have no supply. Although depending on the smart meter depends how fast we receive the notification. We have known it in some circumstances to take up to a few days. But rest assured in our district atleast, we understand that its the safest way to isolate the supply. Although it can depend on the engineer that arrives. The rules ideally need changing but we would hate for someone to get injured if our equipment failed.
Cory nailed it on the biscuit nationalism. I was once requested to leave Australia because of passing a comment: "What? No chocolate biscuits?" . Think I touched on a sore spot. True story.
Corefix for dot and dab fixings changed my life.
Definitely double up the cables,with the 4mm give them a twist with your pliers then double them over,another entertaining vid 👍
I rewired my house 38 years ago. I put in 4 ring mains 3 lighting circuits. It is still in place . I left the house 14 years later but it still stands with no fires. I had the elec board connect up the consumer unit. They seemed happy enough. But you really do need to do it very carefully.
A messy van is a pet hate of mine.
My van was always the most tidy, cleanest, best organised.
It's a constant cause of frustration that our house is always messy
(Clutter, washing hanging of curtain rails, shoes everywhere etc.)
Used to be fault technician for dno, we didn’t have anything ti do with meters, down to supplier. Having said that, missing seals were never really bothered about.
I hade rewired my whole house, I had a EICR done, minor remedial work required, done the remedials myself and passed. I wouldn't recommend anyone doing it if they do not know the latest wiring regs. Electric CAN KILL.
Epic video !! Getting a lot more accros the uk now 👍🏼
Was the customer an engineer by any chance?
👍👍 thumbs up to doubling over - it makes for a better connection and reduces conductor damage.
After watching a few videos I aspire to be like the both of you. Great work and great banter
Thanks
My blade dispenser has a slot on the other side for the dull ones, as the remaining blades reduce, the space for old ones increases.
Be careful when buying them some customers take blades out x put knife back to get free blades! , I saw this!. So check they have spare blades in handle before buying. Best to get the plastic covered ones they sell now,
This guy Cory cracks me up lol
Cory will have to do a biscuit comparison special.
You should try Border Biscuits Dark Chocolate covered Ginger Biscuits. 😋
Part P states the following:
'An installer who is not a registered competent person may use a registered third party to certify notifiable electrical installation work as an alternative to using a building control body.'
Cory is a better electrician than a roofer!! Ask him about Barnard Castle...
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I`ve always been conflicted on who is my fav, Corey or Jordan..it has plagued me now since i found this channel..but today, finally this video has made it clear. The moment i saw Jordan clean the van floor, i knew he was my guy..
10:32 FANTASTYCZNIE yeah
Brilliant vid once again guys. Corey’s consumer unit was so neat, what a pro.
Thanks for sharing. 🐵
I loved this video,😊 Cory almost had Jordan with the prank but I think that he should have told the camera guy to make the prank call instead😉. Nice install with the consumer unit & EV Charger. Good stuff,👍🏼 So BASICALLY, the pen Cory had is a potential BABE Magnet? 🤔 Respect from the Scottish Fried Mars Bar.🏴🤣😂🤣.
Cory is litteraly the text book example of the phrase: "The best way to a mans heart, is though his stomach."! xD
Get Milwaukee pack out and brackets for vans
Great episode guys! Wit and humour was an all time high! Love watching u guys, brightens up the day! Macaulay Culkin!! 😂😂😂😂
Besides the fridge, what else are you guys „checking“ when you‘re by yourself in.a customers house?
Good video guys. To answer your question the DNO do sometimes come if you pull the fuse and there’s a smart meter fitted. They have been pretty relaxed about it though. I nearly always try and pursued the customer to have a isolator fitted. However, cost for the fitting of DP isolator has gone from £84 to £203 in four years so more of a hard sell.
so when the customer watches this and sees you empty the van on his driveway, he will know where to send the bill for his puncture.
Tin money box. Good way to dispose of Stanley blades
8:12 iv always put a pit of outer cable insulation on the blade then tape it up, i get ripped on site for doing it glad its not just me that cares
Fantastic I re wired a house that had a new fitted kitchen and the hob, fridge, dishwasher, washing machine and all the kitchen sockets were on a 40amp fuse on a 2.5mm single cable no ring I was amazed it had not melted
I rewired a previous house .
Telecoms, Electrics, Security.
The electrics was mainly just swapping out the switches, sockets, and light fittings, but also involved some intricate wiring to a few bits.
Not a difficult job for anyone with basic skills.
I get what DashCamAndy said in his post
I also started out in mechanics and got to the end of an apprenticeship b4 falling foul to cancer, so retrained in electronics.
Much better to give it a go yourself if you care to imo.
Double switched is not standard here but I did use it on my last property as the cost and work was next to no difference
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I use cable insulation leftovers as a sleeve for blades. works also for new blades, it is free and puts waste to an new use.
Installation and rewiring is allowed under building control legislation; it is up to building control to determine your competency. There is a considerable difference between being a qualified electrician and knowing and understanding what you are doing. A person who is building their own home ( not just managing the build ) is likely, to a large extent, to know what they are doing and seek information or advice as required as they know that the main persons they are putting at risk are themselves and their family. This I think is borne out by the householder getting you in to test their installation , this being an easier route to BC acceptance. Your positive attitude and open mind to the possibility that this installer knows what he is doing , if unqualified, does you credit.
I think the thing with smart meter is only if customers are elderly as they called customer that I pulled DNO fuse to see everything was ok and they informed them I was fitting solar and air source heat pump and had to do it to isolate even tho our company is supposedly meant to inform them before….
Love the videos, but please be accurate! DIY electrics are not illegal in England, but, in certain circumstances, it is notifiable (controlled) building work. So the local authority has to be advised in advance of the start of the work (where applicable) and/or a qualified third party must certify the work is compliant with the building regulations.
Jordan says, 'Naughty, naughty' at competent man wiring his own house, while he himself pulls the main fuse and says there is no other option. Hypocrite?
Start using the cable heat detectors on the main tails. Nice touch for consumer units to show load and heat concerns early. Mr Meenan and Sparky ninja have been using them recently I frankly think they are a great idea.
Fused BEFORE the meter is also Weird, we have main breakers AFTER meter, anything up to the meter is utility responsibility, thus we shut it off AFTER the meter
Yep, we're legally not supposed to tamper with seals on meter, main head or pull the incomer fuse. We still all do it all the time though, not like we can sit around and wait for the supplier/UK Power Networks to pop round and fit a DP isolator! Nor should we have to pay, it should be standard equipment renewal on their part
That cutout has a knockout for access to the main PME earthing terminals
Totally agree with making sure what you put up can be used by climbers. Because children will climb and they will grab anything grabable without thinking about structural integrity.
Man these videos actually make me pumped to go back to work haha doing sparkies across the world proud boys
Great video guys. Well done Cory. 16:20 in the video. Chocolate covered Hobnob lol......
Hey I see you installing a Hager CU, hanging on the wall in the background. What do you think of Hager stuff?
Just curious. I work for Hager, I designed and built the assembly lines that produce 5000 of these consumer units a week.
I would say Hager consumer units are the chocolate covered Hobnobs of CU's.......hope you agree.
Yes if pull the main fuse with a smart meter they do know .. had them out to fit me an isolation switch on a job and they told me this .. getting an isolation switch fitted is not cheap ..... and i also bend over my copper wires on smaller cable sizes .. . Nice bit of work there 👍👍👍
I saw someone video that showed a cover on the smart meter that had an isolate switch behind not sure how common they are
With regards to the smart meter thing, they have a built in "blink counter" and will report to the grid operator when main power has been lost. The DNO didn't rock up because they thought there was a power cut (they knew there wasn't as the rest of the meters will still be online) they wanted to see evidence of tampering.
Quite right in Smart Meters reporting a loss of power. However we (I work for a DNO myself) don't automatically know if its people pulling fuses compared to a full power cut. It's entirely possible someone service joint and cable has faulted and affects only them. We call them One Off No Supply calls and investigate it as such but we definitely have a fair share of electricians doing just these. We normally just do a slap on the wrist and don't take it too seriously.
Yes on the smart meter....the latest version has whats referred to as first and last breath. This reports into the DNO for fault reporting.
14:33 The unit probably contains the corpses of previous apprentices. 😆😆😆
Interesting statements regarding what a customer can and can't do. I know here in New Zealand that unless something has changed in the last few years since I had my house done that a DIYer can run his own wires and I believe even do basic connection like sockets and switches and the like but it all has to be inspected and signed off by someone qualified. Also a DIYer is not allowed to make any connections to your mains supply such as a connecting new circuits to breakers or stuff like that.
Bet corey is happy with the new artisan work wear 😎👌🏻
DIYer, who is for example equipment tech - can teach you and other electricians a lot of things! I for once taught whole lot of electricians about In-rush current, and basically all the intricacies of AC current when it comes to induction and capacitive reaction, harmonics and other power quality stuff.
Equipment techs who works on equipment that brought from all over the world have no choice but learn NEC/NFPA70, IEC, I even had get in to VDE ( wasn’t easy, because I don’t know German) IEEE, and who knows what else they’ll make us learn!
I have a builder who likes to throw cables in when we are off site and then overboard them, occasionally i go round with the circuit finder to check the zoning and have found diagonal routes often. I've told him he can't 1st fix anymore. If you let people 1st fix in your name, they will cut corners.
Don't be bribed by Pringles because he's a viewer of your channel. You should tell him you're not interested in helping him workaround a non-compliant install, just because there's confusion around install certification and EICR's.
Crafty customer. But supply plenty of food 👍🏻
8:30 -Being an Ambulance Technician (as well as a spark) all my blades go into the sharp bin 👍
Your getting to friendly, it will all end in tears
I do not like the tesla charger cable right on the floor, would put it low in the wall. And the big drill hole should be angled up inwards (to prevent water/moisture in).
Thoroughly enjoyed that, your the sort of company i would have liked to have worked for. But sadly i only managed it once, There are far too many cowboy types out there interested in getting the job done, and make as much cash a possible,But you guys take so much time to get it right every time,.
Cory’s face when jordan said DIY disaster or not because the customer could hear them 🤣🤣
I think Cory could talk his way out of any situation
I love how they brag that they don't only work 8 hour, normal days, then they obviously spent hours mugging and doing stuff for the camera LOL
Hopefully I would pass, I did my apprenticeship but i haven't done my 236 (I failed on mathematics) but i have a competent electrician, I have always worked for niceic registered companies and have lost count of house rewires, have rewired warehouses with steal conduit, worked on loads of 3 phase, my pyro is dead straight the same as any wiring also rewired a factory & offices once, I take so much pride in my work. and remember the cable clip should support the cable and not the nail! (yeah i did pick up a lot while i was in collage as well)