How To Plaster A Ceiling (COMPLETE BEGINNERS GUIDE)
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In this video we'll show you how to plaster a ceiling for beginners. There's a lot to learn here so get comfortable because we're going to walk you through the whole process.
From preparation to application, we'll show you everything. The biggest problem with plastering ceilings is this little thing called gravity! It doesn't help when you're trying to stick a sloppy substance to a something up high.
But luckily this guide can help. I'll show you how to get bumpy ceilings flat, the exact tools and materials you'll need for the job and some essential tips you NEED to know before you plaster a ceiling of your own.
So if you're looking to learn plastering then this tutorial is a perfect start for you. If you like this video please like and subscribe. And also feel free to leave a comment...I'd love to hear from you.
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Thanks for watching. I'll see you on the next one.
Cheers.
Blaine Gray,
Plastering For Beginners
I’ve watched your tutorials on and off for a year now and I’ve plastered several rooms here, my first was our grand salon - 5 meters by 12 room and four meter high walls - Jesus I was absolutely done in after that. You gave me courage (Im a woman so I was nervous even more of giving it a go - not being sexist just the truth). Here in France, tradespeople are ridiculously expensive so I gave it a go - couldn’t of done it without you. Thanks Blane, Leanne
Well done!! That's great to hear and they definately aren't small rooms!! Sounds like you're killimg it...Fair play to you! It's great to hear a success story like yours so thank you for sharing it. Good luck with the salon and I hope the plastering is still going strong 👍
This video was posted a yearago
Good on you. Well done. You give Me inspiration.
@PlasteringForBeginners 2 years later you're still teaching people. Thank you for your knowledge mate.
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Plastering is very difficult skill to learn, respect the work
You Sir, are a master craftsman!
You are also rare. You take pride in your work. Respect. Thanks for posting.
I am going to plaster my porch ceiling. Small space. Textured. I am in awe of your skills. Lucky mother in law! Thankyou for this info. 👏
Blain thanks for putting your video up
It gets every one chatting and giving hints and help to other wouldbe plasterers
Plus us old boys can pass on our knowledge
It pains me to see peeps going on 6 day courses then thinking they are plasterer
Shit I did a 7 year apprenticeship with my uncles
And they were master plasterers
And so tough
Bloody mixing and making tea for years lols
Please remember guys every customer is gold
As its recomendation that keeps u working
Yep the public can be a right pain
But suck it up and do there house as u would do yours bazz
Love your work Bro.
I've made a bonding mix with the multifunish. 70% multi 30% bonding.
Speedskim straight away & Leave for 20 mins. In that time I clean up the edges then second coat it as normal.
Today I have finish my first ever plastering, and it was exactly like on your video artex ceiling, didn’t do any plastering before and started from the ceiling…I did exactly like on your video first bonding coat and then after few days two coats of plaster multi finish , the most trouble caused drying plaster , as a novice of course it was hard to do whole coat in 1 go so on the end was a bit dry , ceiling had about 10m2 . Your videos are very helpful, it is everything beginner plasterer should know , now we need to just practice practice practice and learn from experience, thank You for your help
Could you do a video of timings. How long after the first coat do you start to flatten? When do you apply the second coat, how long before you flatten that, what timeline do you do each stage of the process?
You can't do it accurately. Every mix is different & you have to wait until it's right. You will learn to get an eye for it quite quickly by trial & error. If you're making it look a mess, it's not ready so give it a bit longer. When it starts to look better with troweling you are at the right time.
Finally plucked up the courage to do an artex ceiling after your “artex ceiling 2”. Great video as this one. Probably wouldn’t have attempted without seeing vids like this. Cheers Blaine
Good on you pal! You should be proud of yourself - I'm glad to hear that the videos have helped my friend 👍
Just come across this God send of a video I’ve just moved and have the exact same textured ceilings so im going to use this to guide me 👏🏾👏🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾
I’ve been plastering 50 years and did my apprenticeship without the help of You Tube. The thing I’ve realised watching these videos is that larger areas are not necssarily more difficult than small ones. Thanks for this. One thing - if your head were about 4 inches closer to the ceiling you would be more comfortable.
You are a true craftsman sir. Seem like a top bloke too 🤙watch all your vids mate
Thank you mate. I really appreciate that and thanks again for watching! It means a lot to me!
I've been rennovating a house at the moment and crocs have been my goto for all the reasons you've said - best shoes for any wet trade
Totally agree with you on the speedskim, for any DIYer who has more than one room to do it is a game changer. For the finish and confidence it gives you it’s worth every pound!
Agreed my friend! It's a real game changer 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners I noticed you used the same blue blade for your second flattening, I always use the black one or the metal. I'm not questioning your methods by the way
Excelente trabajo 👌👌 saludos desde Chile 🇨🇱
wow! what nice top quality! thanks for sharing!
Really interesting my friend , You were extremely good at getting it across to me , as i am just a beginner . Thank You , from Michael Patrick .
Thank you for saying - I really appreciate that my friend. Cheers 😊
You've explained a lot in this video and made it look easy... but I know it isn't! I can do most handyman/DIY tasks with ease but brick laying and plastering are two I shy away from. You've encouraged me to give plastering a go. Just hope my shoulder can take it 🤔
Excellent tutorial 👏
We are way past Plastering for Beginners, lets now call them Masterclass Plastering. Your work is amazing.
Great job! Really thorough and useful.
thanks for the instructional video.
I finding your videos very satisfying im a welder but watching you makes me thinking of changing my profession. Can you just tell on your vid.time between each coat that would help.
Blain you are the man!
Ha thank you matey!!
Another excellent video.
Thank you, brilliant 😊
Let's croc on..😅
Thanks so much though. Great help.
Glad it’s helped pal!
Mate I’ve been thinking of leaving recruitment to do
Plastering… this has confirmed it for me
Stangely my local Selco don't sell the speedskim although they sell many other OX products. One note on artex I have found is tht sometimes the artexing has small stalagmites hanging off the ceiling, especiall on the deeper patterns, so i sometimes have so spend a 1/2 an hour using an old trowel to cut of the longer bits. Keep up your videos - they are a godsend to anyone doing their own work - committed DIYes or younger guys going into the trade.
That it weird. I thought Selco would have been all over it - strange! Yeah that does happen but I try to avoid scraping too much Artex now in case there's any Asbestos in the mix! Thank you very much. I really appreciate your kind words and you watching. Cheers 🍻
Screwfix does them on next day delivery, Amazon too. Every plasterer should own a Refina PlaxiFlexi, I have no words.
Great video Blaine great tip for artex your like my sleep therapy listening to you at night sends me to sleep haha 😂😴
Hahaha thanks pal! I really appreciate that - glad it's helping you sleep 🤣
But always well presented with info to help us novices egger to get to the professional finish I’m only 15weeks in to plastering career so plenty time
Hi blaine, great video mate as always. I plastered a massive ceiling today and used the refina plaziflex spatula in combination with the ox speedskim and the results where absolutely fantastic you should consider giving it a go mate. Loving your work as always a true professional. 👍
Hi mate. Great hearing from you! I'll give it a go my friend - I do love the Plaziflex so I'll look into it. Thanks for the suggestion, hope you're well 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners thank you for the response blaine mate i appreciate it hope you and your family are well, I wanted to ask do you have any experience in using monocouche render and if so is there any tips you possibly could share with the community mate?
Thank you so much.
Thank you for the video as I am preparing to do the ceiling this coming weekend and I'm s£&ting it cos I don't want to do any mistakes 😂 I will let you know how it goes thanks again for a brilliant video 👍
Hell yes. Looking forward to this Blaine!
I hope you enjoy it matey!! Great hearing from you 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners amazing video buddy. Watching it all already!
Can’t wait until I’m as lean and fit as you to be able to practice consistently.
Been doing my hammer curls! In fact, my next workout is in 20 mins…
Thank you.
Nice one bro thank you very much ❤
Your a better man than me mate I've been at it 44 years I would have to sheet the walls up other wise the room would have to be redecorated l0l
Please do more! I need to plaster my front yard
I'll keep them coming my friend... Don't you worry about that!
Thank you for your tutilage! I've pretty much done everything wrong so far--but I'm getting good at making it look smooth, anyways! Headed to your channel to maybe make the next coat correctly?!? Cheers!
I have the Crocs that don't have the holes in the top (for obvs reasons)! Top vid, thank you!
That's the one pal... good on ya! Thanks for watching 👍
I get a good result with just two coats of malty finish. If there is a risk of distemper. I just re-board it. You can get sealers but they take a day to dry and cost more than boards as well as smell of chemicals. Year's ago I made a plastic finishing trowel. But now you can buy them. I think they're brilliant. A good finishing trowel can get you out of trouble as well.
I've been a plasterer for 40 years,when plastering over artex ceilings I have always used a plastic float to level out the first coat after application.
If the ceiling is a bumpy bugger I would add a second coat applied with a plastic float.
Old school,lol.
All my coats are multi finish,I never use bonding,too much faf.
I've never actually done it this way but it does make sense. It's probably the best way to get it dead flat to be fair! Thanks for the suggestion and thanks for watching! Cheers mate
One thing never mentioned when plastering a ceiling is arm and shoulder strength. You can't just go straight into large ceilings without practice to build up strength.
Technique helps but does not replace basic fitness.
Very good point. I always forget to mention this because I forgot what it was like. Looking back now you're bang on. It does hurt at first so strength is a must!
Great job
Thanks mate!!
Attempting my first ceiling next week in the kids room 🥴 wish me luck
A lad worked with he plasters in crocs living the dream haha
may i ask, when you take the frog tape off at the end doesnt it leave a rough edge? surely if the first coat was 5mm thick then the final skim how would you finish the edges? brilliant video btw...
I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a clean bag of multi finish or bonding for that matter! Did you polish them post vid Blaine? Great work as per👍🏻
Defo gave them a hoover before he dragged them through the mother in law's house!
Hi Blane. Love the videos. Did you apply the bonding coat with one mix then flatten and then the 2nd mix and flatten or all in one mix? and did you PVA over the bonding coat or wet it down to slow down the suction on the first skimcoat? I particularly like the tip about working towards the centre light. Many thanks Paul
Excellent videos. My only comment is to outline the timings. So 1) pva - first coat 2) 1st coat - flatten 3) flatten- 2nd coat 4) 2nd coat - flatten 5) 2nd flatten - polish
Great video I'm learning alot
Hello! Great video, I’m very new to plastering and am trying to go for a plaster ceiling in a school bus conversion. I know everyone says that plaster is extremely durable, I was wondering if you being someone who knows the product very well, think a plaster ceiling would hold up when driving down bumpy roads or you think it would probably just crack. Any thoughts you have would be appreciated!
This man has a lot of thumbs
Hi Blaine first of all I love your videos I've learnt so much from you keep up the good work.
I wanted to ask, when plastering a ceiling but not the walls should I not be worried about cracks around the edge where wall meets ceiling?
Also on kinda the same subject is it possible to plaster half of a wall and feather it in to an existing plastered wall for instance where you have extended a property?
Thanks in advance 👍
You can Caulk the edges after which should stop any cracks from showing through. And you can feather a wall into an existing one - it's possible but you just have to use lots of water to make it work.
Hope this helps my friend and good luck 👍
excellent as ususl
Thank you! Cheers!
I find it quite funny how easy we got it these days. My father plasterer by trade literally uses one trowel,hawk and gets it flat, hard work but does. I told him about the speed skims and he literally sees it as the devils work. Told me "i catch you with one of those I'll wrap it around your skull, use your skill you lazy ****" 😂 yeah I've used one and it is so much easier
How long after bonding can you plaster over?
I have experienced bubbles forming when applying Multifinish over wet bonding, i usually leave a day in-between now.
It would be great to bond and skim the same day
Did you PVA between the 1st and 2nd coat of multifinish? Or do you put the 2nd coat up whilst the 1st coat is still drying ?
Also can you use SBR instead of PVA? Any difference?
Great video again m8 very well explained love the fact your a tidy worker if you move to Scotland gies a shout al get you a job beside me lol in all honesty bud brilliant 👏job as to the masking tape I've started using it but in some cases once tidied up I sometimes put a finished bead of caulk around the ceiling line once the plaster set 😀👍
Haha thanks pal! I really appreciate that and thank you for watching 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners lol no probz atall in all seriousness ou a do hope any young teenager looking for a trade sees your videos as you know your stuff plastering isn't the worst trade to do people seem to think that it's really messy bit through practice you keep the messy side down great videos 👍 ma friend keep up the good work
hi Blaine, just watched your video. we've just bought a house that needs work and in an effort to save money, im going to attempt to plaster my sons ceiling next week when we get the keys. can I have a break down of the tools you used and brands please? thank you
Would you not float the bonding to give your first coat a good key?
Thank for showing us plebs how to do it Blaine. Still rather pay a professional like yourself though. It's a small price to pay compared to the mess and time I would take.
Not a problem. Thank you for watching!! It's just practice my friend - the more you do the easier it gets pal!!
Mate I've been plasterer for 20 years i always put a few handfuls of bonding in first coat to get over high spots trust me you will not look back i didn't. 2nd coat just plaster!!
Sounds like a good tip - will have to try.
Exactly how I do it a lot easier normally put about quarter of a bag of bonding for 2 bags of multi
Magic mix 👍
I do this all the time, even on some old walls that need strengthening/meshing
I never thought of doing that. How much bonding would you mix into a full bag of MultiFinish? Is that just for first coat or both? Any help appreciated
I watched loads of videos about plastering before I did the bathroom ceiling (not very successful I have to say) I did a wall last week after watching your video and turned out better than I expected bearing in mind my previous experience 😅. I will be giving the bedrooom cealing a go and I was wondering how do you reach it? I am only 5ft and the ladders is not very helpful. Thank you for shearing your knowledge
(I know this post was a while ago, but thought I'd answer as it might help someone)- I'm 5'5" and about to do some plastering, so have bought a work platform with a height of 80cm (800mm) to help reach the ceiling. (I figured it would be much better than going up and down every two seconds with a ladder as it would do my knees in).
just out of curiosity, how long did this one ceiling take? my whole house has textured ceilings and I hate them 😭
Could I ask, why not just scrap back the artex to get flat and then go straight over with Plaster? Why use bonding initially?
Meant to add a lot of new plasterers are using spray bottles which I hate n some plasterers throw the water from the brush which I also hate as it makes a bloody mess lol I noticed u use small amounts of water from the brush as that's perfect an all you need 😀
Don’t watch your videos to learn but general enjoy watching them keep it up mate 👌🏼 also is that the nela carbon ? If so how you liking it had mine a month
Thanks matey. I really appreciate that! I've had it for roughly 5 months but I've been breaking it in on my rendering jobs. I really like it actually - it's a lovely trowel now it's breaking in.
Could you review the marshalltown squeegee for plastering?
I use hardwall on artex ceilings as the hardwall dont dry out as quick like bonding
Good idea mate...cheers!
What is the drying time between trowling stages?
Is it at all possible to just do two coats of finished plaster on this textured ceiling rather than using the bonding coat? Just a thought
I all ways PVA artex when bonding but I never PVA bonding when it's still green just put nice skim coat over the bonding and its a treat, does it not bleb when you PVA the bonding coat Matt
I always used to do that but the last few times I've done it the plaster didn't adhere to the Bonding so I always PVA it now. Never with Hardwall but always with Bonding. It works a treat to be fair...gives it a nice key for the skim 👍
I would really like to get to the bottom this one . As far as I understand it there is no need to use PVA as long as you go over the bonding with multi the same day. It's why we don't PVA between coats of multi . The gypsom forms crystals in the water between the layers. Am I missing something here ? Thanks for a great video.
You're correct I've been plastering over many artex ceilings for over 30 years and you go over the bonding skim mixture When it starts to pick up Or you could say after a good half hour after you put the speed skim over it Then like you say you don't need to pva it The multi finish should bond perfectly to it In rare cases where you leave the bonding dry for 24 hours then maybe you would need to pva But apart from that you don't need to pva the bonding first coat
Do you recommend pre mixed plaster to save time from mixing it
What are you standing on? Do I need to hire a platform (very expensive, £350 for 4 days!)
Why pva binding when is still bit wet ?multi will stick to it anyway no ?
Can ceiling paper be plastered over, or does it have to be stripped off. Also, is the PVA still sticky when putting your first coat on. Thanks for your videos.
Never plaster onto paper pal! It all needs to be stripped back before plastering - I know it's a pain but it needs doing! It doesn't matter. If you're new I'd just wait until the PVA is completely dry to avoid complications 👍
I've plasterboarded my uneven ceiling and now gonna prep the joints etc...
It's going to be wallpapered, however, is the 1st coat adequate for backing paper then wallpaper on ?
It's a compromise as I hate artex and it's the closest to a textured finish I suppose.
Thanks
Do you have to use bonding first on an artex ceiling or can you go straight for skimming with multi finish? My mate said you can go straight for 3 coats but I don’t know weather to believe him lol
How do you remove the frogtape at the end, is it buried up underneath 5/6mm plaster at the top edge? Do you cut it neatly with a stanley blade? Or have you set the frogtape down that far from the ceiling?
Going to attempt this on pretty much same type of ceiling and size.. First timer! Am I mad? Can you tell me which trowel you use for most of this process in beginning stages.. I'm right in thinking you used Nela FLEX II 16 and then Refina Plaziflex at end??
Do you have to pva right before like roses it have to be wet still or leave it to dry
Genius. Trade skills are what they should be teaching more kids at school, not the acedemic subjects which end up being useless to them and society.
Cheers mate! Much appreciated 👍
What do you do if the ceiling is bowing in the middle? Do you have to rip the whole thing down and start again?
Hi Blaine great vids alot of plasterers are using sbr instead of pva what's yours thoughts on that thanks in advance
Thanks for the video! I'm getting the courage to take mine on! Do I need a specific electric mixer to mix as you do in the video or can it be done manually? Thanks. Shane
He advised in a previous video to use an electric (paddle) mixer as it gives a smoother mix.
Crocks are the best form of male contraceptive. Even more effective when worn with socks. Oh nicely done ceiling there buddy
At 5:22 can you leave as it is and put wallpaper on top?
As a complete DIY and plaster beginner who just now finished skimming my kitchen ceiling these are my experiences from the various tutorial's I watched
Firstly I wasn't going to pay money for a mixer just to use it once so I got the ready made plaster which I'm guessing is far wetter/sloppier than what they use in these tutorials as the roller method was useless
Second it didn't go on no-where near as smoothly as in this video but I found out later applying a good deal of strength when putting the plaster on helped massively, as I was far to gentle at the start
Third the speedskim didn't help at all and strangely left long scratch marks when used so didn't bother with it in the end, might be because I've never plastered before but that's kinda the point in this case
four, given I was far too slow at the start by the time I got to the end the start was starting to dry and trying to smooth the streaks out resulted in me causing more problems so I gave up trying in the end
five, I found placing the plaster on the tray and then smoothing it evenly on the tray with a large scraper before applying made the job faaar easier and cleaner albeit slower
six, as in this video these tutorials always show them pushing and pulling the plaster on but I can pretty much guarantee you wont be able to do this and will likely go one direction, as without the experience it just causes more problems
finally, my ceiling did end up perfectly smooth but I needed to take a day sanding it down to a smooth finish, but my advice is if your just doing this once or twice as a DIY job to save money don't worry about how messy the end result is, you can always sand to a clean finish later as plaster tends to sand very easily
oh, and be prepared for a dead arm for a day or two after finishing XD
What kind of plaster do you recommend for those up us in the States?
Can you use a roller brush
Hi mate, love your videos I’m in the process on becoming a plaster and I am interested on that speedskim what’s mm is that please? As well where’s best to build your knowledge on plastering as that’s my main focus I love the information behind it like what materials can you plaster, bond or render on etc.
Thank you mate... Really appreciate that. This is the 6mm Speedskim ST - perfect for flattening. Check out our Welcome Course. We'll walk you through the basics to plastering and give you and opportunity to take your education further if you need it. It's free so you have nothing to lose.
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Why when trowelling up does the plaster peel at times? Please help and is there a way to stop?
It happens a lot in the heat - and sometimes with dodgy batches of plaster. It's happened to me recently and it's a pain...
Thanks for reply pal. Yeah it winds me right up
Hi Blaine,
Recently moved into an older property. The kitchen ceiling has half artex, half woodchip wallpaper. Could I use this same technique to cover it all. Would the bonding coat stick to the old woodchip paper? It's a bugger to get off so wondered if I could avoid any more scraping. Thanks for your videos 👍😊
Hi mate. Unfortunately it needs to be striped back - you can't plaster on any wallpaper. Not even Woodchip. I know it's a bugger but it needs to be removed! Sorry pal and good luck 👍
Hi Blaine, with regards the flexi trowel just how flexible is the black edition in comparison with the Speedflex 11 gold and medi flex. Where does it fit in with these? I’m torn between this and the Speedflex 11. I think the black edition might be Nela’s answer to the Speedflex 3 that Regina offer but I might be wide if the mark. Can’t seem to find this info anywhere so your advice would be appreciated. Thank you or anyone else that can answer this for me
Another great video
Are you still finding some problems with multi finish I had a ceiling last week and it seemed to be going way to early !
Cheers pal! It's actually been ok down my neck of the woods but I'm sorry to hear about your problems pal
@@PlasteringForBeginners well strange putting 12.5 litres per bag and just doesn’t seem right 🙄🙄
@@PlasteringForBeginners defo having trouble with the multi finish here in wales doing a small man cave today I honestly thought One hit one mix but nope done the ceiling and one bloody wall and it was really pulling less than half hour 😳😳😳
Was the second coat a separate mix ? Cheers
Hey Mate , are the nela Tools any good? they selling them in canada now and I was tempted to tried them .
What is the difference between undercoat plaster and bonding? both made by gypsum
I believe the bonding seals the surface to prevent all the moisture from getting sucked out of your plaster by the drywall and gives the basecoat of plaster something it can stick to. Lookup plasterweld.
Can you use the same process on a ceiling that has cracks in or is it better to lower the ceiling with plasterboard?
If personally overboard a ceiling which is damaged. It's not worth risking mate 👍