Huge EV Charging Manufacturer Enters The American Market! Star Charge Full Product Tour
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For joining Star Charge just 4 months ago, Stu really has it all put together well. Great job Ravi as well.
Kyle, This is what you do better than anyone else. Thank you
$50k for NEVI compliant unit is absolutely insane value!!!
I can’t speak for the States but I sincerely hope these guys can give electrify America a good kick up the arse,looking forward to seeing these around Europe,cheers Kyle👍😉💪
I think a highly underappreciated feature is the low-power DC charging from the battery backup. It makes zero sense to use the normal conversion chain (DC-AC-DC) to charge a car from a battery backup. The double conversion probably causes at least a 20% energy loss by the time the electrons gets to the EV's batteries. Not sure why this isn't done more often - how expensive is a high voltage DC boost converter?
Who would use this type of charging? A normal car driver wants most bang for the buck or extremely cheap.
@@Harrythehun I dunno, ask any mobile battery pack manufacturer that proclaims "EV charging ready".
@@kuo-luntye2031 if we don't know, there is probably no market for that then.
Good thinking, because that's how new markets are created! NOT! @@Harrythehun
@@DBGE001 Haha please tell me about the business case and USP?
"You can tell we're very serious about charging, look at this booth" 😆 This is exactly what a VP of sales would say
i guess Autel might want their gifts back:) Kyle...It's nice that you get to interview many Charging Manufacturers but have any of them actually put any facilities in the ground?LOL
Kyle has done several videos over the years about all these new charging providers, showing their products and their factories, but have any of them actually put any facilities in the ground anywhere? In any meaningful number? I certainly have not seen any of them at all. Just the usual EA, Francis, EVGo, ChargePoint, etc sites, most with half the units either non-functional or limited to 50 kw. I hope Kyle would get these people on the record as to when and where these things will be out in the real world instead of at places like CES, which is notorious for showing off products that never see the light of day.
This gentleman talks about working with the NEVI program. Well, that program only places charging sites and units on Interstate highways, which are already well-served. We need charging sites along US and State highways in between those Interstates in the 200-250 mile gaps between those Interstates so that people can drive anywhere without not having to plan to be at an Interstate to do their charging. This is especially important in the middle of the country and western regions where it can be 4-500 miles between Interstates, a distance that is not doable by any EV on sale right now. There are Tesla Superchargers and EA sites every 40-50 miles already on the Interstates, but get away from those and there is nothing for hundreds of miles. That is the biggest problem that needs to be fixed.
There’s a huge difference between companies who make chargers vs companies building charging networks.
Think of them like gas pumps; you don’t fill-up with “Shell” brand gas pump.
Right, but I still have not seen any charging units out in the field that have been made by any of these new manufacturers that Kyle has been featuring in his videos in the past few years. All I ever see are the same old ABB and BTC dispensers that have always been completely unreliable for any length of time and that are apparently impossible to maintain. At what point will we ever see these new companies’ equipment actually in use, and are they any more reliable than what we have now, which is just not working?
A side note, Kyle has been collecting data from his “Rate your charge” polls for quite a while now and I think it’s time he put out a video about how that is going and what his findings have been. That would be very interesting. @@yayinternets
ive run into a couple of the star charge 60kW DCFC here in the UK (their Jupiter 60 V3s) and they're... fine, no worse than modern alpitronic or tritium units, but also no better than modern alpitronic or tritium units, its also really large for their power output, OTOH their user interface is really nice, and is something i'd like other companies to borrow, however, given the choice, give me 10x Kempower before you give me 1 star charge DCFC.
their distributed "opportunity charger" thing that can have 18 dispensers off of one box, that was neat, would be great for car parks, residential building etc, nice to see.
Good Job Ravi!! I’ve learnt so much information based off your knowledge! Can’t wait for more!!
Great Job Ravi!! I’ve learnt lots of information based of your knowledge, can’t wait for what’s next!!
Great video keep the information going
Go Columbus! So many tech companies coming here, love to see it! Hope to see a flagship charging station placed here!
Go blue!
Sorry had too
Awesome to see more coming to my city. If I were an electrical engineer rather than an analytical chemist I would be tempted to look them up.
Thanks for this!! Enjoy CES
I'm trilled to discover their home low power DC vehicle charging capability. From what I understand it eliminates the DC/AC and AC/DC conversion losses which can be substantial in currently available home charging.
Nicely done Kyle and thanks Star Charge. We need you in this market.
At 18:07 Kyle miss spoke about the charger, having it supporting a Lucid not using the on-board booster, the 20 kW DC is from the vehicle to the charger, this is an 80 amp AC charger and would only provide 80 A to a vehicle that had an 80 amp onboard charger.
@27:50 all unavailable, not a bad emulation of some E.A. Charging stations, reputably, glad in this case it was just window dressing. Star Charge seems to have a nice full suite of products. I love that there is competition in this space.
Many thanks. I'm a couple years away from going electric for mobility. Ouf of Spec rocks.
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Were you not able to test the Cybertruck offroad? Is that it for the Cybertruck videos?!
I hope they have a good product.
what brand hoodie do you wear ?
Autoline Network has an episode “the Anti-CES EV.” Olympian Motors has an EV that is bare bones in simplicity. The Model 01 has no display screens and rather simplified interior, much like the Nobe GT100. The Model 01 will be only available in NY and CA. It has 2 or 4 door versions. Based on a EV skateboard, 2 door version has 32 KWh battery (200 mi range, $60K) and 4 door version has 72 kWh battery (305 mi range, $80K). These will be built in Farmington MI (Detroit Michigan Central-old train station converted to a tech space)and will be assembled in Brooklyn NY (the old Brooklyn Navy yard). Production begins Q2 of 2024. This Autoline Network was filmed at CES. What is Kyle take on this? I hope that Kyle covers this in one of his CES episodes. Apparently, OIympian Motors is there.
Would like more 100 kwh chargers in the far north, all the dc chargers in northern Alberta, the Yukon, Denali & Fairbanks Alaska are 50 kwh Flo units. Not sure if the cables for 150 kwh chargers are flexible enough for -50F(-45C) applications. Flo chargers appear to be quite reliable in cold weather.
Do you know if Star Change be coming to Canada?
The residential system looks pretty enticing.
If I go inside the service is possible to pay cash to charge Ev and they will give me QR code with amount of kW?
Max of 21 kwh seems low for battery hone storage. Unless you have a vehicle to supplement.
Support button +camera if they don't know how to charge
You join me at the situation where it's near as makes no difference!
The robot sounds like a versatile option if you only control hardware on the charging side. (And it matches the AI theme of this year's CES.) But wouldn't induction be a simpler solution to hands-free charging? Imagine a fender-bender where the charging vehicle gets bumped!
Induction has a lower energy transfer coefficient, and is mostly not EV OAM compliant
So I own a Tesla & have a Tesla charger Why should I change to Star system ?
Where are the installs in Texas?
As a Tesla owner, it will be rare that I would use any fast charger other than a Supercharger. But I do want access if some day I need to. My only question is do you need an app for this charging? I already have a EVgo, Chargepoint, and a Blink app and have used these apps to practice charging. Every thing worked good, especially Chargepoint. But I don't want to have 30 apps on my phone for charging. I've done credit card charging for Electrify America, and that's good enough for me. I just want to know if you can just do credit card charging with these new charging systems?
Believe they only deliver the equipment and the buyers have their own CPO backends, apps and payment systems.
They mentioned "NACS for all DC products"... what about AC ones? the residential stuff.
Haha did you even watch the video? 1:57
I had a star charge aurora wallbox at home, unfortunately had to return it and swap for a Wallbox branded Wallbox. They DON'T have an app to configure/monitor for europe, only for china.... it's dumb.
Although the box itself has wifi, 4g Sim, and Bluetooth! Not even manually installing the .apk works. Contacted starcharge Europe and China, both of them couldn't make it work, seems region dependent for activation ...
Kyle this company just rocks, hope this video goes on North American wide as I know there are charging providers that need very cost effective fast DC chargers!
Did they forget about the NACS, not listed above their Fast DC charger display? 🤔🤔🤔
NACS is just an end connector so it's not a big issue for company that builds chargers. Kyle actually brought up that NACS is available with StarCharge in the video.
@@sparks869 It is much more than just an connector, if it was easy Star Charge would displayed a Fast DC Charger with the NACS at CES. Tesla released the NACS standard free to car and charger manufacturers already November 2022. What a miss to lease a huge booth at CES and no NACS and a lot of wasted space, they do not have much to come with for the moment.
I wasn't convinced by the rep going "yeah so uuuhm you know we think that uuuhm"
If you are driving a Rivian you should not have to get out of your charriot to charge
Wait Wait dont tell me
Never heard of it 🤷
This is great and all but are these systems cost competitive with Tesla? Who and how many partners are in this company. Can we invest? be nice to know. thanks
Did not see any NACS chargers.
Adapters are not expensive.
@@alancobbin
The NACS standard was designed by engineers to encourage EV adoption.
The CCS charging standard was created by ICE manufactures marketing departments to discourage EV adoption. With the hope EV’s would never catch on.
In 10 years the only place you will find a CCS charger is in a electronic surplus store.
@24:12
@@SoyElDiabloRojo
Thanks never got that far, as new to the NA market they should be staying aways from CCS and pushing NACS hard.
@@universeisundernoobligatio3283 CCS 2 in Europe is used as standard, even Tesla is mandated to use only CCS 2 plug, connectors.
I blame american government not ICE manufacturers. If EU managed to tighten the rule for better and reliable CSS 2 infrastructure, why shoudn t america ?
Star Charge is a Chinese company. Can the quality be trusted or will it go up in smoke like BYD products???
22:00 He avoided to mention China regarding their 1000 engineers, ready to take action.
Thanks for the propaganda, but no thanks.
There are plenty of Chinese made batteries on the road in the US now. I am not aware of a single instance of one of these catching fire.
It's the batteries from Korean companies that have had issues. And to be fair, they have been pretty rare.
It’s funny because if you look on the website it says founded in Singapore. It is not, or maybe technically.
@@syproful Changzhou Shi, 39 Longhui Rd, Wujin Qu, China
No nacs support ha? Doesn’t look good!
yay, another chinese company, yay.....not
Hope you never buy a NA vehicle as they all have Chinese products.
Seems to actually be Singapore based...
Unsure about how they can make a claim as world's largest however.
When public charging infrastructure improves.....Tesla's fragile market advantage will begin to dissapear.
Tesla's biggest claim to fame is charging, but they will not be able to hang on to that for long.
Fragile?! Tesla shipped 1.8m cars in 2023…. Lol. “Competition is coming”!!!!!! Maybe GM will ship more than a few dozen
@@smartelectriccar I think @factory400 is being a little harsh and negative, but I do think also that once the Traditional OEM and charging operators take things more seriously Tesla's EV market share will shrink. Especially with what is looking like a underwhelming Cybertruck compared to Elon's promises on range and price .
As a CPO, Tesla has a massive advantage regarding their they own technology, manufacturing, software, support, data, app, personnel, cars....no one can match that in economics, reliability and control.
@@smartelectriccar Tesla has about 4% market share based on 12/2023 sales.
Yay.
@Harrythehun There is a reason Tesla has
He kinda blew it - with “we have over 1000 engineers “ err how many : shame ! Great shopping window - expo CES.
V2G. Talk about battery degradation. Man I get the reasoning but it would destroy the life of your battery long term. V2H is great for power outages but not really interested in V2G.
Tesla sells commercial 11kw chargers for $450. They have the largest charging network that will open to all vehicles so unless these guys collect payment through tesla there wont be a need for more charging companies because they monopolized level 2 and DC charging
What is this ? I want more Cyber Truck video