He kept relating Andy's importance or relevance to fame, but the guy was bigger than that kinda stuff. He wrote songs and plays guitar in a style that's still unique and inspired.
Even by that time of bad habits (1991) Andy Mccoy recorded a great album with band Shooting Gallery (Polygram). If this guy is telling the truth, if he had stayed in that house he was supposed to be in that band and record that album with musicians that already had toured and/or recorded with Iggy Pop, Lords of the New Church, Depeche Mode, Bruce Springsteen. Andy Mccoy's music and Hanoi Rocks' style were the biggest influence for Guns N' Roses. GNR's "Welcome to the Jungle" is inspired on the chorus of Hanoi's "Underwater World" song. "Paradise City" whole concept and riff is "inspired" on Hanoi's "Lost in the City" just to puta little context here. Who is this hairdresser anyway?
@@RFDc853 Totally! "Don't Cry" by GNR was also inspired by Hanoi Rocks. Shooting Gallery was a great band with an excellent record that sounds still great. Andy said he broke up the band due to drug use. The record has Hanoi Rocks and Cherry Bombs material on it in addition to excellent material they created!
Andy is a legend, like the Finnish Keith Richards. So many great songs with and without Hanoi. So many singers would give their right arm to be in Andy's band, and Robin was simply approached by Angela without even trying.
Andy? HAHAHAH Total scumbag at the moment, drinking himself to death (sure as h€ll there are still some opioid boosting on the side). You can't even understand what he's talking about anymore. Well he was long time like borderline homeless nark but now it looks like he's going to be done in a year or so..
Ive done speed and heroine for a month straight and then went cold turkey that was the hardest 3 fucking days of my life it's like having awful flu with the cold sweats and being completely achey and depressed wanting to die
It's no fun. I've lost count how many times I've had to cold turkey. It's at least half a dozen times. Twice I did off my own back. twice in hospital and twice in prison. That's over a 27 year period. I'm back on methadone maintenance now after overdosed in April.
Try shooting up everyday for several years straight I used heroin for about 6 years intravenously smoking and snorting but shut up for about 4 yrs I quit slamming it got tired of abscesses. especially after getting 5 and 1 month.dopesickness is a sickness like no other and gets worse the longer u use n get clean n relapse more n more as years go on
27 years on the gear, smoked the first 12ish then hit the needle. Not by choice my lungs were fucked, now my lungs have recovered but i have blood clots deep vein thrombosis and require blood thinners for life, scars all over my arms legs hands and feet 1996 started. Back in methadone maintenance. Hard life man. The highs the lows. I cant even have a blood test anymore
@brandonnevarez8417 its does, it really does. The first time i realised i had a habit id been using for about 5 weeks solid every day twice a day. I stopped using quite easily i had a about 3 days of feeling lethargic and stomach ache. Threw up a little didn't sleep to well but was fine, each time i used again and stopped the symptoms got worse by the 3rd time i was full on kicking hard. Burning up freezing cold. Sweating sneezing coughing headaches restless arms and legs. Couldn't even stand up and walk about without my blood pressure bottoming out and almost collapsing. The shits wretched bile, like yellow acid that would burn your throat and nose and take your breath away to the point you can't breathe. Its sucks
He was definitely in withdrawal, and he was one decision away from a life of self-destruction and possibly death! Unfortunately I wasn't that lucky, I did my first line at 24 in 1984 and spent the next 30 years fighting it, and was on methadone for 19 years. Thanks to God, I've been clean for over 3 years! Unfortunately, I lost a few very close friends to it. Most people who are dealing with depression or problems from childhood or traumatic experiences that try it get hooked!
I would not be so sure, 4 days of constant IV heroin can cause somekind of mild withdrawls for unexperienced user. I know morphine users that get withdrawls after a less than week using and heroin is way stronger.
That is how everyone starts doing dope, some friend or a person you strongly look up to offer's it to you, and you think this friend only has good intentions towards you, he wouldn't try to distroy our friendship or your life
I’m sorry but I partied with Robin Black at Toronto bars. He was wasted most of the times I saw him, and not just booze. I credit him for getting out and working out after he had an overdose. Then he changed everything. I’m saying he did good but he’s not telling the whole story. With love of course
It's suspicious because the it takes is more time than 4 days for the brain to develop enough extra dopamine receptors as well as adjust the hypothalumus to trigger withdrawal after ceasing usage. After 4 days heavy use, or even 2-3 weeks of lighter use, you will likely suffer from SEVERE sleep problems and a few other mild symptoms. But the full on hell of Oppie withdrawal from that amount of time, especially for a first time user? Highly unlikely. I think he was talking more about psychological symptoms
Mr. Meatballs bro you took codeine for 3 days. Codeine is in cough syrup and all kinds of pills like some tylenol. You are comparing that to heroine. You obviously have no clue what your talking about. If you knew what it felt like to withdrawal you would not compare a hangover to withdrawals. Its actually funny as hell. " I took codeine for 3 days and had a hangover" yes withdrawal last for days and days. You would have got withdrawal a day or two after you ran out of pills. Not a hangover the next day. Lol.
Andy told similar story in his memoir 2001. He said that steven adler from gnr introduced andy for heroin, andy did it 4 days straight and then stopped. I feel like the book is where this robin guy stole the story and tells it like it happened to him
I call bullshit because no way would he cold turkey from 4 days now if hed said 14 days maybe but 4 no it takes probably 10 to 14 days before you start feeling bad.
No no no.... Steven Adler was nobody when Andy McCoy was a big rockstar and also a heroin addict - might've been other way around. Andy introducing Steven to heroin, wouldn't be surprised
I don't buy that story about his first time doing heroin. You get sick as shit the first time you do it, puking itching ur balls off. Unless he had previous experience with opioids and could tolerate it.
@Carolina1 i never got dope sick and i took it for 8 days so i honestly cant see him rattling after 4 plus a rattle lasts longer than 2 days its more like a week of throwing up and feeling like shit aching all over runny nose hot and cold flushes and the worst part not been able to get comfortable or sleep.
I don't see a reason he would be lying. On the contrary, if he wanted to brag he'd say he didn't get sick. And people's bodies react differently. If he had't used heroine before, I think it's very probable he'd suffer after 4 days in a row
Andy is going to have to get his Shit together and walk on a few eggshells if a record company(depending if one investment is bigger than another) is going to be financing a budget into the Hanoi Rocks reunification in America!!Two steps from the move is a classic and should have been multi platinum with more MTV support of up and around the bend!!!Its all about work and timing!!!!!
I know, this is an old clip. But in Finland, there is 5 million people and sadly, Andy is not that popular anymore. More like a drunk funny guy. In finland. Music business is all about finnish music, with finnish lyrics. You don’t make a career, singing in english in Finland. Hanoi Rocks is a great legacy and people, who knows Hanoi Rocks being the first band, getting big outside of Finland are proud of it. Hopelly one day, we will get something great like Hanoi Rocks. Greetings from Finland!
You do not get withdraws from the first time you do heroin.. lol.. and a 4 day bender?? I assume most of it was asleep and when he woke he'd get put back down
i was gonna say the same thing, and he's saying it was a violent withdrawal. i shot morphine and hydromorphone with no prior opiate or other drug use, i was using 3-5 days out of a week for about 6wks without withdrawal, then over a month of daily use before i went into withdrawal. i started early sept '05 and it was around xmas when it hit. unlike this guy i had clean sterile rigs, pure pharma opiates.
I didn’t have withdrawals for almost a year of 5-10 day binges then 35 days straight of oxy 80s no withdrawals till the 35 days and then they weren’t even bad
No a normal person wouldnt experience withdrawals after 4 days. You have to work at getting a habit. You probably got sick from your flight. You would know if it was withdrawals
Fuck yeah I would go on weekend binges every other paycheck back then when I was in the mood for heroin... never IVd it I smoked it on foil. It was crazy I used to wake up all dumbfounded not knowing how I got to bed fucked up on Xanax and H with H still all over the house in the most random places.. thing I used to live with my parents so I had to wake up super Early to find the H before they found it. Anyways good days
jaime delgado Just think about them nasty, smelly, sticky, restless leg, vomiting, cold sweats, hot sweats, severe headaches, nightmarish withdrawals!!!😝😝😝😝😷😷😷 Trust me: Y O U D O N O T M I S S 🚫💊 H E R O I N 🚫💉
That is how everyone starts doing dope, some friend or a person you strongly look up to offer's it to you, and you think this friend only has good intentions towards you, he wouldn't try to distroy our friendship or your life
Get Andy on the show and ur life changes
Andy mainittu torilla tavataan!
Tuon konit
Vähän myöhässä mut silti torille
"dont tell your daddy how to fuck"
- Andy Mccoy
He kept relating Andy's importance or relevance to fame, but the guy was bigger than that kinda stuff. He wrote songs and plays guitar in a style that's still unique and inspired.
ChrisM1234 i think that was more so to explain it easier to joe...
Andy mccoy played guitar in iggy pop band some point
@@nakkikioski5774 Yeah, 1988 "Instinct" tour! Iggy said Andy was impressive and remembered his Flamenco playing. There's a live Iggy record Andy's on.
Even by that time of bad habits (1991) Andy Mccoy recorded a great album with band Shooting Gallery (Polygram). If this guy is telling the truth, if he had stayed in that house he was supposed to be in that band and record that album with musicians that already had toured and/or recorded with Iggy Pop, Lords of the New Church, Depeche Mode, Bruce Springsteen. Andy Mccoy's music and Hanoi Rocks' style were the biggest influence for Guns N' Roses. GNR's "Welcome to the Jungle" is inspired on the chorus of Hanoi's "Underwater World" song. "Paradise City" whole concept and riff is "inspired" on Hanoi's "Lost in the City" just to puta little context here. Who is this hairdresser anyway?
@@RFDc853 Totally! "Don't Cry" by GNR was also inspired by Hanoi Rocks. Shooting Gallery was a great band with an excellent record that sounds still great. Andy said he broke up the band due to drug use. The record has Hanoi Rocks and Cherry Bombs material on it in addition to excellent material they created!
Andy McCoy, Hanoi Rocks, Absolute LEGEND
Andy is a legend, like the Finnish Keith Richards. So many great songs with and without Hanoi. So many singers would give their right arm to be in Andy's band, and Robin was simply approached by Angela without even trying.
More reckless and unpredictable though.
Andy is doing good, making new songs all the time, great guy
Andy? HAHAHAH Total scumbag at the moment, drinking himself to death (sure as h€ll there are still some opioid boosting on the side). You can't even understand what he's talking about anymore. Well he was long time like borderline homeless nark but now it looks like he's going to be done in a year or so..
Zappa?
I live in finland and we see him on the streets and bars drinking 7 days a week, he aint doing that well
Met Robin twice in Montreal, he was an absolute gentleman, I have excellent memories of him! :)
4:41. I can't say these are the greatest sound effects ever given to someone shooting up heroin but i think it has to be top 5
hahahahahahaha
@@mikeohernia5498 o'hernia ha classic
Nonsense, you gotta trust Dr. McCoy..
I know quite well who Andy McCoy is but no idea about Robin Black. Guessing he's a comedian based on the fact he is on Rogan.
Agreed. Who is this tool
He is a fighting commemtator just like joe
I have no idea who he is and don’t care enough to look him up...but he seems very kind and sincere like a great person
Hanoi Rocks is back! for a one show for Michael Monroe´s 60th birthday.
Robin is actually a super sweet guy met him many times with his band and hung and had too many drink and just a fun nice guy
Finland 5 million
20 years ago. 5,5 now.
@Dickhew Matthson 5.5 now
@@erikestlander9727
Point five being culturally non-finnish.
ANDY MCCOY!!!!
Ive done speed and heroine for a month straight and then went cold turkey that was the hardest 3 fucking days of my life it's like having awful flu with the cold sweats and being completely achey and depressed wanting to die
3 days? You're lucky. I had the worst 14 days of my life. Never again.
It's no fun. I've lost count how many times I've had to cold turkey. It's at least half a dozen times. Twice I did off my own back. twice in hospital and twice in prison. That's over a 27 year period. I'm back on methadone maintenance now after overdosed in April.
4 days shooting up is gnarly, im glad he took that plane back home
Try shooting up everyday for several years straight I used heroin for about 6 years intravenously smoking and snorting but shut up for about 4 yrs I quit slamming it got tired of abscesses. especially after getting 5 and 1 month.dopesickness is a sickness like no other and gets worse the longer u use n get clean n relapse more n more as years go on
Brandon Nevarez 12 year opiate addict. IV for the last 2. Sobered up in 2018
27 years on the gear, smoked the first 12ish then hit the needle. Not by choice my lungs were fucked, now my lungs have recovered but i have blood clots deep vein thrombosis and require blood thinners for life, scars all over my arms legs hands and feet 1996 started. Back in methadone maintenance. Hard life man. The highs the lows. I cant even have a blood test anymore
@brandonnevarez8417 its does, it really does. The first time i realised i had a habit id been using for about 5 weeks solid every day twice a day. I stopped using quite easily i had a about 3 days of feeling lethargic and stomach ache. Threw up a little didn't sleep to well but was fine, each time i used again and stopped the symptoms got worse by the 3rd time i was full on kicking hard. Burning up freezing cold. Sweating sneezing coughing headaches restless arms and legs. Couldn't even stand up and walk about without my blood pressure bottoming out and almost collapsing. The shits wretched bile, like yellow acid that would burn your throat and nose and take your breath away to the point you can't breathe. Its sucks
He was definitely in withdrawal, and he was one decision away from a life of self-destruction and possibly death! Unfortunately I wasn't that lucky, I did my first line at 24 in 1984 and spent the next 30 years fighting it, and was on methadone for 19 years. Thanks to God, I've been clean for over 3 years! Unfortunately, I lost a few very close friends to it. Most people who are dealing with depression or problems from childhood or traumatic experiences that try it get hooked!
Carl Munroe Who are you talking to and why?
Carl Munroe Why don’t you try explaining what you are referring to instead of babbling like a little bitch?
You don't go into withdrawal after 4 days of use!..
You don't go through withdrawal after 4 days. He probably just felt beat up after using heroin for the 1st time.
4 days brand new user NO WITHDRAWALS
Finland..home of my Laplander friends 🇨🇦
Wasn’t withdrawals never used before. Never detoxed before. 4 days no way. All in his head at THE MOST MAYBE a tough of diarrhea..
I would not be so sure, 4 days of constant IV heroin can cause somekind of mild withdrawls for unexperienced user. I know morphine users that get withdrawls after a less than week using and heroin is way stronger.
half of canada? i wish :D
I was hoping he'd talk about his hit song Friday. Hehe
Lol
Clever man! Hanging around with Andy isn't good for anyone!
That is how everyone starts doing dope, some friend or a person you strongly look up to offer's it to you, and you think this friend only has good intentions towards you, he wouldn't try to distroy our friendship or your life
i knew robin was a drugger.
we can smell our own.....not heroin tho. 😂
You mean druggie?
Facts. I'm not buying that he says he hasn't taken a narcotic since. I can smell him from 2000 miles away
Jum Broni, he referred to opioids.
Jum Broni i think he just meant opiates. The guy had a seizure in 2006, from a serious speed habit
Exactly see my new post
this is funny on so many levels.
Love Robin great guy!!
My favorite two passionate MMA..commentators extrodiniar ⚡🇨🇦
Wish i was just visiting, and i didnt grow up with the people i got hooked with....lol
Crazy experiences man.
This dude seems really cool nowadays
Andy"s been clean for years and years now.
Define "clean" LOL
@@laszlocarreidas9548 Heroine clean.
@@MultiKnick
Heroin is not that big of a deal in Finland; everyone’s using Subutex instead. Strange, isn’t it?
WHOA, I wasn't sure it was THAT Robin Black!!!
It's like the angel and devil on your shoulders. Impulsiveness Been in those kinda situations many a time.
OR... if you'd stayed... you'd be in Andy's Band?
I’m sorry but I partied with Robin Black at Toronto bars. He was wasted most of the times I saw him, and not just booze. I credit him for getting out and working out after he had an overdose. Then he changed everything.
I’m saying he did good but he’s not telling the whole story.
With love of course
hmmmm shooting up for 4 days for the first time,
Had a friend who shoot heroin for experiment for 2 weeks and stopped cold turkey without a problem so, yes it can work and happen.
violent withdrawls after 4 days, what a joke, this guy is so full of shit
It's suspicious because the it takes is more time than 4 days for the brain to develop enough extra dopamine receptors as well as adjust the hypothalumus to trigger withdrawal after ceasing usage. After 4 days heavy use, or even 2-3 weeks of lighter use, you will likely suffer from SEVERE sleep problems and a few other mild symptoms. But the full on hell of Oppie withdrawal from that amount of time, especially for a first time user? Highly unlikely. I think he was talking more about psychological symptoms
Not really like. I shot up for 6 years the first time llf
🤥
I like THIS Robin Black. Just please don't commentate fights ever again.
not sure who he is, but he has lovely black herr.
5:50 theres 5.5 million ppl in finland lol.
I had a similar situation. Someone told me to take a 💊 one day so I did. Oh I fell in love but I didn't get on the plane. It's been 20years now
junkie
Hrm.. sounds kinda suspect
Yes 4 days of doing heroin will for sure give you withdrawal. Im sure it was premo heroin back then as well. 😮
corey mac ha, ha, ha, yeah...
corey mac no it will not, no opioid will give you withdrawal that fast.
Mr. Meatballs bro you took codeine for 3 days. Codeine is in cough syrup and all kinds of pills like some tylenol. You are comparing that to heroine. You obviously have no clue what your talking about. If you knew what it felt like to withdrawal you would not compare a hangover to withdrawals. Its actually funny as hell. " I took codeine for 3 days and had a hangover" yes withdrawal last for days and days. You would have got withdrawal a day or two after you ran out of pills. Not a hangover the next day. Lol.
Russell Dingle SHOOTING HEROIN for four days straight wont give you withdrawal. lol ok bud
corey mac they say it takes 3 to 5 days to form a habit. It took me about a week.
Wow. I love hanoi rocks never heard this story though
does nebody else think this dude looks like Charlie Sheen
Siinä tais mennä ne kolkyt donaa.
ya he had to be in withdrawal
Finnish population 5,2 million.
Robin you are famous 😆🥊🇨🇦
Andy told similar story in his memoir 2001. He said that steven adler from gnr introduced andy for heroin, andy did it 4 days straight and then stopped. I feel like the book is where this robin guy stole the story and tells it like it happened to him
I call bullshit because no way would he cold turkey from 4 days now if hed said 14 days maybe but 4 no it takes probably 10 to 14 days before you start feeling bad.
No no no.... Steven Adler was nobody when Andy McCoy was a big rockstar and also a heroin addict - might've been other way around. Andy introducing Steven to heroin, wouldn't be surprised
@@howey935 you're an idiot. Robin is no liar
Bit off there Ismo.
The other way around Andy introduced Steven to Heroin! Michael Monroe says Rene Berg who played with Hanoi later on introduced Andy to Heroin.
Try 5M😂
I don't buy that story about his first time doing heroin. You get sick as shit the first time you do it, puking itching ur balls off. Unless he had previous experience with opioids and could tolerate it.
He wouldn't have been dopesick after 4 days
@Carolina1 i never got dope sick and i took it for 8 days so i honestly cant see him rattling after 4 plus a rattle lasts longer than 2 days its more like a week of throwing up and feeling like shit aching all over runny nose hot and cold flushes and the worst part not been able to get comfortable or sleep.
You're dopesick after 1 or2 days
I don't see a reason he would be lying. On the contrary, if he wanted to brag he'd say he didn't get sick. And people's bodies react differently. If he had't used heroine before, I think it's very probable he'd suffer after 4 days in a row
@@jumbroni6014 bullshit
We were all stupid once😆
Hopefully when we were young 🥊
Lol, there's only like 5 million people in Finland, so that's not much :D
You begin to think as you age😁
I tried it once when I was high on xanax, the sketchy thing was the Xanax was stronger and I didn't feel the heroin at all.
Andy is going to have to get his Shit together and walk on a few eggshells if a record company(depending if one investment is bigger than another) is going to be financing a budget into the Hanoi Rocks reunification in America!!Two steps from the move is a classic and should have been multi platinum with more MTV support of up and around the bend!!!Its all about work and timing!!!!!
I know, this is an old clip. But in Finland, there is 5 million people and sadly, Andy is not that popular anymore. More like a drunk funny guy. In finland. Music business is all about finnish music, with finnish lyrics. You don’t make a career, singing in english in Finland. Hanoi Rocks is a great legacy and people, who knows Hanoi Rocks being the first band, getting big outside of Finland are proud of it. Hopelly one day, we will get something great like Hanoi Rocks. Greetings from Finland!
You do not get withdraws from the first time you do heroin.. lol.. and a 4 day bender?? I assume most of it was asleep and when he woke he'd get put back down
i was gonna say the same thing, and he's saying it was a violent withdrawal. i shot morphine and hydromorphone with no prior opiate or other drug use, i was using 3-5 days out of a week for about 6wks without withdrawal, then over a month of daily use before i went into withdrawal. i started early sept '05 and it was around xmas when it hit. unlike this guy i had clean sterile rigs, pure pharma opiates.
You would not become an addict who gets sick for a while. Not 4 days worth of jabbing it
Yes you do
Go try it. Tell me how you feel tomorrow.
I didn’t have withdrawals for almost a year of 5-10 day binges then 35 days straight of oxy 80s no withdrawals till the 35 days and then they weren’t even bad
No a normal person wouldnt experience withdrawals after 4 days. You have to work at getting a habit. You probably got sick from your flight. You would know if it was withdrawals
I feel like it'd be coming DOWN from 4 damn days of fuckinf HEROINE. lol
Fuck yeah I would go on weekend binges every other paycheck back then when I was in the mood for heroin... never IVd it I smoked it on foil. It was crazy I used to wake up all dumbfounded not knowing how I got to bed fucked up on Xanax and H with H still all over the house in the most random places.. thing I used to live with my parents so I had to wake up super Early to find the H before they found it. Anyways good days
I once worshipped satan with Andy & Ozzy.
Hunter S. Get Hii yeah right
Gikk på heroin i fire dager. Fire dager det er en forpliktelse...lol
That’s some horrible hair son
I really miss heroin
jaime delgado don't do it bro
SlyEyes don’t tell people what to do
me to the rush omg the warm feeling eyes pinned nice nod fuck u lol
Smoke dmt same warm feeling ohh yeahaaaa
jaime delgado
Just think about them nasty, smelly, sticky, restless leg, vomiting, cold sweats, hot sweats, severe headaches, nightmarish withdrawals!!!😝😝😝😝😷😷😷
Trust me:
Y O U D O N O T M I S S
🚫💊 H E R O I N 🚫💉
ei vittu
That is how everyone starts doing dope, some friend or a person you strongly look up to offer's it to you, and you think this friend only has good intentions towards you, he wouldn't try to distroy our friendship or your life