F T no. There is no honor in modern war. Name me one war in the past 50 years that has been waged that has been about honor and not paying the pockets of the military industrial complex. Not Iraq Not Afghanistan and damn sure not Vietnam. War is fought and died by young men who don’t even know why they are there. But then again you are a joe Rogan fans you you probably drank the cool aid of “we are the best in the world, everything we do is right. Joes fans are some of the most ignorant on the planet.
@@jameswinchester5423 and F T i can kind of agree with both of you. Yes, with the weaponry we have now there isn't honor in modern combat. You can however still die with honor so long as you are fighting for is just.
@@jameswinchester5423 So if you go back and look at my comment what I said was "There is honor if those fighting die honorably". Soldiers don't start wars nor do they pick where to go, that's part of the sacrifice they make. A soldier doesn't get the luxury of choice he gets the privilege of service. The way he conducts himself in war is a reflection of the country as a whole, his family, and his morals. That is all I meant. I don't buy into American exceptionalism at all, you should try not to make blanket statements about groups of people based on nothing but your feels. You come off as ignorant.
I'd love to see this exact conversation with these two men today. Same topic but now considering what the country has been through in the past 2 years.
weak men like them, are the reason we are here today too afraid of dealing with the real shit, when its at home it was about time then its past time now
Malcolm X once said that people who call for "revolution" wouldn't whisper the word if they truly understood, in the entirety, exactly what they were asking for...
@tlessmo Russian Revolution was not military, it became military. Read a bit my dude. And Antifa are not revolutionaries, they are a disorganised group of anti-fascists who exist in other countries(where they are legitimately violent and people are scared of them like in Greece), people like American antifa are always the people before revolutionaries.
@@Dan0TheMano the federal government would shut it down and enforce federal law. State guard could fight and other state militia groups, but they don't have the resources to fight the federal government. So I think it would get squashed quickly if any state tried that
“You have all the gear but you don’t practice with it”. And “if I have to get involved it’ll get pretty ugly pretty fast”. A person with common sense would react like this “I am not gonna show up at this guys door step, it will most likely not end in my favor”. A person that is affiliated with Antifa or radical BLM would react like this “Let’s go protest at this guys house and demand he give us all his stuff and destroy his property if he doesn’t”. How do you think the story ends in both scenarios?
i laugh when i see leftest women wanting to go toe to toe with men.. its painfully ironic they have never been in a real combat situation and wouldn't be able to hack it in a life or death scenario, neither could i but then again if i was ever in a war id be a cowardly marksman
Not even what's been happening, and if I have to clean up the puke of a fucked up kid one more time, the people in charge won't have to worry about an alien enemy, anymore.
Real soldiers also pray for war, because they don’t want to waste their years of training. It’s a situation... almost all soldier’s autobiographies explain this to some extent.
I’m 53 years old and this country and world is at its worst ever in my whole entire life and if it keeps going the way it is there’s NOOO doubt that Civil War is coming it’s coming fast !!!
Same age, I agree entirely. As soon as the Conservatives and pro-Constitutionalists have been pushed too far, it's going to be over very very quickly and at a cost the American population cannot deal with.
I think it can turn into a maelstorm of reasons and not only the US has become mad. It's just that among the western ones, has it prob. the most but I'm affraid everyone will turn bananas. Fox and any News or media should have a warning letter for Your health and safety. People are exposed to the most advanced propagand in history and there's no direction to find sanity or truth.
"C" because he was never in a legitimate war. WWII was the last legitimate war US soldiers were involved in, Vietnam & Korea are debatable. All US wars since then were only to combat an enemy previously receiving US tax payer dollars in aid (CIA funding: Taliban/Osama bin Laden/Al-Qaeda(CIA Operation Cyclone), Iran(Iran-Contra Affair), Iraq(1980s CIA funding/aid to build chemical weapons)), or directly created by US foreign policy (ISI/ISIS=2003 US Invasion of Iraq/Operation Cyclone). Meanwhile on Sept 11, 2001, the US allowed the largest terrorist attack in world history--even worse, it was on US soil.
THAT is a great point. When reality isn't and facts aren't anymore, there is no avoiding the eventuality of war. It may not come today or tomorrow but it will be in my lifetime. I know that to be a fact. 100%
Nobody with an ounce of sanity should want to see a civil war. I grew up in an extremely violent background and the first thing I wanted to do was get away from it as soon as I could. Most people can't understand how traumatizing it is and it never completely leaves you.
I understand that but let me ask you this if they came for you are you going to make sure you defend yourself? What if they come for others? I'm not talking the government BTW I am talking about these idiots out there. Look at Portland today. I know someone who is chased down the street there because someone thought they saw him with the Proud Boys.
Looking at the USA from abroad. I think that Trump would be perfectly willing to see a civil war if it got him what he wanted. Particularly if it kept him out of prison.
B LMAO yeah man historically people have been attacked for way less than that, and they managed to still be good people. You being a conservative, you should understand inflated statistics and know that it is an extreme minority of people who get attacked for wearing MAGA hats, lets be real
Thank you Joe Rogan and Andy Stumpf for your comments on this subject. In my entire life, I have never been as concerned about our country as I am today. I wish our history of the founding of our country and the horror of the wars our men and women engaged in over even the last 70 years was taught in high school history. It might bring a thread of sanity in this crazy social environment. I really appreciate your perspectives. Mr. Rogan, it is clear why you are outperforming so many of the cable channels. As you noted, a man that knows about violence will steer away from that path.
Gods honest truth.ive always fought thru saying nothing to it but to live thru it..but untill u do,peoe have no idea what it's all about at the moment to the first bullet wizzes. If I never had to fire a shot again ide die a happy man.but history tells us all,unless selfless men step forward n stand for freedom n what's rite.we will continue to sprial into the abiss of destruction.only the dead have seen the end of war............
The technology that our past generations hoped would change the world for the best has backfired and is wasted when we could use this information and communication to better everything. I’m not a hippy but I’m so sick and tired of most humans I come across. Everyone is so self obsessed with themselves and worried about being stuck in the rat race to make money and acquire new shit that we don’t need.
Social media only highlight problem already present in the human condition. Meditate, develop one’s mindful awareness, and apply that awareness into your life and you will have a better relationship with social media if you set that as an intention.
One of the truest quotes I wish everyone knew, so many war mongers it’s unbelievable but they have no experience of i so they want it, they want what will destroy them it’s incredible
There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter. -Ernest Hemingway (Not in agreement with this quote btw)
Very intellectual, and philosophical discussion on current issues. I find it amazing, when people who have seen extreme violence, or been forced to engage in it, generally, despise it after their "time/duty" has passed. I was in LE for 29 years and have seen more bodies, and trauma than I can recall - yes I have tried. I also deplore violence, and agree 100% with this guest - people who haven't experienced continuous violence, don't understand what it does to the average person. Great interview Joe! You really stepped up the quality for others to follow!!!
I served in Iraq and one thing I took away from it that and will always be with me was seeing first hand what happens when a country and/or society collapse. Trust me, I don't care what political persuasion you are, what religion you are, you do not want to be in a country during a war.
It really sickens me , reading these comments where people are almost frothing at the mouth for the chance to murder their fellow Americans. Their neighbors and friends ...all over rather simple differences of opinion and philosophy.
It's not just lefty socialist types though, there were a scary amount of comments right before voting day from conservatives saying "If Hillary wins, we need to revolt" Because they were convinced she was cheating or Trump was going to lose because of that grab her by the pussy stuff or whatever. If Hilary had won it'd be a lot of the conservatives still crying for civil war now 100%. Both sides are full of people who are convinced the other side are demons(literally with some of these religious conspiracy nuts)
@@fieldy409 oh its a two way street for sure but the far left and far right don't have the ability to understand that, blinders are making them think they are right and they can't see things from the other point of view. You need to be able to see things from more than just your point of view.
@@hairtrigger8317 And the adversarial nature is ruining democracies across the world, everywhere its left vs right. Reality is all people and parties are a mixture of left and right depending on what issue you ask them about. Plus at the end of the day we agree on more things than we disagree on, all the stuff we don't argue on outweighs the key issues we do agree on. But everyone just blocks things that the other side put forth not because it isn't a good idea but just because its their idea. It's sad. And a civil war in America would leave America never as strong again, possibly broken into seperate states or shrunk as other countries did opportunistic landgrabs, and then China would be the number 1 superpower which is scary.
people who would rather die on their knees pleading than fighting have no courage and no beliefs. that said, you also shouldn't be hasty to get into a fight, it should be the last resort....but to say that you should never rise and fight is weak and devoid of belief and principle.
But those who have experienced it knows that at times it is needed. We don’t welcome it but we damned sure fight it when left with no reasonable choice.
No it didn’t. I understand the post is semi-humorous, but the reality is this has been building and taking incremental steps for years. The lift got bolder and bolder with the outright violence. A couple weeks ago, there was a literal battle in a park between the two sides using shields, batons and bear mace. This past weekend, a guy with a BLM tattoo literally murdered a man on the street in front of his friend because they are going to vote for two different people. It’s taking years to get here, but make no mistake… It’s HERE. Now that the shooting has started, it’s just a matter of time before more people in the crowd are armed on both sides and the number of casualties per incident goes up.
TheGeneral proof of what? The 2 things I listed are on video and on UA-cam. “It’s a matter of time” is an opinion that is neither provable nor disprovable... so....
The thing I appreciate about Joe, is his unique ability to see both sides ( even if it’s limited). Joe was ( up until recently I fear) in a good position to moderate and help two opposing ideologies see a bit of each other’s perspective.
You can’t reason with someone who is totally closed off to debate. Wise words to remember “Never try to explain yourself to someone who is committed to misunderstanding you”
@@hughmungus370 You shouldn’t read things into a persons comment that are blatantly false. Your perception of my comment is way off. I don’t believe in having my constitutional rights violated. My rights don’t end where another person’s fear begins. I’m anti mask, anti lockdown and I WILL Not get the vaccine. You are a prime example of my comment. Never assume. If you aren’t sure what I meant...just ask 🙄
Yes the Bible tells us that to argue with a fool'foolish person is an exercise in futility. Proverbs 26:4, Proverbs 29:9, Proverbs 18:2 , Proverbs 15:2, Proverbs 20:3 and Proverbs 18:6 . All taken from the ESV Bible
Remove yourself from the debate. They need to get it out of there system. They wont listen to reason. 2 sides bent on destruction will settle for nothing less. Division and control destroys the controling and the divisive.
Exactly! It's best to ignore these people bc they are the ones living in mommies basement playing COD, trying to be keyboard warriors that have no lives, stirring the pot! People need to learn how to tune these fuckers out!
@@cstoddard408 Seriously? Let me provide you with THE answer: Left vs. Right. George Soros and Bill Gates have $$$BILLIONS invested in their social engineering experiment and Antifa to stoke the fires. Do you think the BLM movement is causing all of the destructive rioting? No! They're not! It's the antagonists (Antifa) who are instigating the violence...and they're just getting warmed up. Soros is "All In" for crippling America.
@@cstoddard408 right wing and left wing extremists. They WANT a civil war. Hopefully they'll obliterate each other only, so that the rest of us normal people can continue living our lives.
When I was a young man and I got tired of minimum wage I went to school to learn how to weld and minimum wage was never again an issue. I took control of the problem and changed my own circumstances. What helped with that was the rich guy who owned the fabricating shop that hired me and paid me a decent wage to work for him. Revolution begins from within. Don't like your situation? Invest in yourself and change it.
What if you can't legally? I'm serious life is not fair for everyone I mean that sounds good but what about the rest of us ?The ones that are fed up with the whole gd thing life isn't fair I get it but that slow rage doesn't just go too sleep...never mind I sound unhinged.
@areuarealman7269 number one, what do you mean by 'legally'? If you got yourself jammed up with the law, then that's on you. Secondly, you're right. Life IS not fair, but you have more control over it than you might think. If you think you are a victim, then that's what you'll be. Make excuses why you can't, then you won't. Whatever happens to you, good or bad, is YOUR fault. Woody Allen once said, "90% of success is just showing up." A little self-discipline and prayer goes a long way.
Colton Crain Hidden Trophy Unlocked: Florida crackhead causes mass shootings, black people blasting there brains out, fucked up skool systems! Wat a fucking joke
@@chopperking007 No, a communist military dictatorship took over. He called together the heads of various clans to discuss their discontentment. He blew them up instead. He was ousted. Power vacuum yada yada
@@chopperking007 my friend, it's not religion that starts the war, it's people who twist the wording of the texts and force people into fighting for a false holy war. Islam strictly prohibits violence, it's in the texts and you can search then up yourself.
@@GrantfromEarth why the fuck would he vote for those socialists? Democrats are domestic enemies. They want to infringe upon our rights and force dependency on the govt.
This is a balanced view in regards to thought and motivation, Rogan and Strumpf bring a discussion that is sound and reasoned.Rogan gets viewers because he is balanced, Strumpf brings life experience being in the teams and his applications in those teams and what the outcomes were. Both very well spoken
I am from Croatia. I have spent '91-'95 in war in my country in Special Unit for Recon and Diversion. I will tell you this: YOU DON'T WANT WAR IN YOUR COUNTRY. I hope it will never happened to you, but if it happens, believe me, you will all agree with my capslocked part if you do not agree now. When war is in your country, it is not happening just to you as a fighter, it is happening to everybody and this part of "war in your country" is harder than fight itself.
Pray for your good health man. That must have been a fucking nightmare. The abstraction of the internet has allowed people to just conflate things like violence and war with the media representation of violence and war. Goddamn, 90s Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia. You know more than anyone
Thank you, Sonya, and welcome to the Divided States of America, now ruled by a mafioso crime boss. You would have liked it in the late 60s and early 70s, but those days is gone and won't be coming back anytime soon. But we're glad you're here. I grew up in Pittsburgh, PA and knew a lot of Croatian families there, very warm and loving people...like Americans once were.
Thanks man, really appreciated. It was crazy nightmare, you are right. One day I was that stoner kid, another I was crazy fighter, literally, i was 19 when I volunteered to go and fight, day after I finished highschool. I saw shits ppl can not imagine, worst part it was mostly done by ppl which were friends just few months ago. I am retired because of PTSD, but I am doing well now. Thanks to wonderful wife mostly. And my dog. Yep, this part of world was always fucked up. 1st WW started here, during 2nd all sides went berserk and done all kind of shits, then in '90s again. And still is boiling in Bosnia. We are fuckin crazy or cursed.
@Rod Frantz I am watching what is happening there, and I am sorry for that. Also I know that sometimes there is no option but war. Shit, I was in that situation, of course I know. But keep that option as a last one. Domestic war fucks up many generations, living and the ones not born yet. It is not like you can go do tour or two and come back in safety. There is no safety for anyone for many years. Economics is broken, all is going to hell. And at the end, after all that shit you see that only result is that old "fat rich cats" are dead, but new ones are already even "fatter and richer".
@@sonjabrajkina3995 Again man, I only hope the best for you. Suffering what you suffered takes a great deal of mental fortitude. I'm glad you have support that you can depend on and don't have to face that source of conflict ever again.
John Dough hahaha just jumping to the opportunity to shit on someone doing something that makes them happy. I think UA-cam is one of the better social media’s
@@rubengdful Well, it's not their fault. It's very hard to adjust to normal life once you come back from war. Their experiences on the battlefield were so intense that they became "addicted to war". Not addicted to the conflict of nations, but addicted to the harsh lifestyle they had back then.
22yrs as a bouncer, many thousands of fights, not once did I ever have to fight a trained fighter. Not one time. It's always people unfamiliar with violence who want to go there.
How can you peacefully talk to someone who approves of people like Hillary Clinton, who are knowningly breaking the law time and time again, and nothing is being done about it? You can't. When they start making their own party members, pay for the laws they break, then maybe we can peacefully come together. But thats what needs to happen first.
@@kalebvera1841 right and now they're all scared (rightfully so) as If weren't trying to warm people for years but all we got is "you nut" "tin foil hat" ect ..
I agree with you, social media serves absolutely no positive purpose at all. This is my first day back from a 2 month layoff of UA-cam and i do feel much better. I've been on today now for a half hour. I'm going to do my best to get off as soon as i end this comment.
One of these days, the people gonna be to tired to the point where you can’t do anything about it anymore, all that this country has done before our time and now all of that gonna spill over one day and we gonna have to pay for it except we won’t be cause those who were responsible will either way
"You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end." - William Tecumseh Sherman
I remember being a sophomore in hs and i was leaving school one day, when a bulky man approached me saying i looked some guy that jumped him in the summer time. I had to speak him out of it, and prove It wasn’t me. Eventually we became friends because he felt bad for the accusation.. i can tell he never forgot about getting beat up tho. He said he got buff just to make sure if he saw those guys again, he’d destroy them. It really does stick with you
@@IvanMatvijenko I hope you are wrong. The very thought of having to harm one more human being is more than my conscience wants to bear. Can I do it? yes. Will I do it? If there is no other alternative. Do I want to? No. Pray for peaceful resolutions, detest war, and live with a clean conscience. It makes life so much more bearable. trust me.
@@bravo2p366 The biggest harm to a human being is taking his freedom away, human without freedom is not a human anymore, its already murder... Also war is just a cycle, its how nature keeps things balanced. Its normal for this planet with the current lvl of intellect amongst humans... of course intelligent person is able to say that war bring no good, however usually still ends up to appear of benefit to both!
@@bravo2p366 Killing unborn babies is just as much of murder as any other, somehow its first resort not last. Would have to disagree with you every situation is different! Lets not forget that officially ww2 never ended it was a truth treaty for 7 years only that expired, however now its clear now who pro life and freedom and who is against life, I would say that we finally have entered bipolar world where enemies and friends coexist and live next to each other and see each other daily. At least for me its a warning bell telling me to move out of big cities closer to small towns. Killing people... I look at it a duty that need to be carried out when evil is out of control, much rather prefer to die defending my family and country then cancer or cardiovascular disease or accident... its what a man does... defends his family! Best way to avoid war is be always ready for it! It was this way, it is this way and it will always be this way!
@@IvanMatvijenko I live in the country, because I desire to live in peace. I keep my powder dry, and my skills honed. Not because I am afraid, but because I refuse to be a victim, and because I wish to live free. I am 60 years old and lived enough for two lifetimes. I am old and wise enough to know what's worth getting riled up about, and what's not. I don't allow myself to be drawn into other men's passions or paranoia. I know the truth, and am therefore free. The truth of the matter is everyone is so quick to justify their actions whether they are correct or not. Abortion is wrong and there is no excuse for it, those responsible wil stand in judgement for it. But, neither you or I or anyone else have the right, other than to morally protest. Violence is not justified or we would be no better than BLM or Antifa. No sir, if you want violence, and that is your ilk then you and I will never agree. I swore an oath to defend the constitution 41 years ago, and I do it every day against gangsters thugs and socialists. Not with buck and ball but with words, in hopes that the former wil never be necessary.
@Todd Keno have you not been following the past 4 years buddy? The “right” does ONE thing and you all wig out 🙄🥴 to bad it wasn’t even republicans it was Antifa and BLM supporters and it was planned months ahead of time
@Todd Keno where was your outrage when 3+ BILLION dollars in damage was done in cities all across the country? Peoples businesses burned down? Car lots burned down? Homes destroyed....etc etc....where you been bud? That’s literally terrorism at its finest....700 cops injured and several dead. Several innocent by standers dead, the list goes on....grow up dude...if you can’t see the TRUE problem here, Yank your eye balls out of your head because apparently they don’t connect to your little tiny pea brain!
@Todd Keno have you seen the news? The Democratic Party TELLING people to attack and arm them selfs and incite violence? Have you had your head in the sand dude? Or are you just completely ignorant?
Fleece Johnson not even, off the top of my head didn’t he declare war 2 out of the 7 wars he was in? Everyone else was warmongering but just got hard dicked
I'm an old Vietnam Vet and understand your frustration, I have been frustrated for over 50 years. If we were to have a civil war, our enemies would strike us then for sure. Actually, I expect it anytime now.
I am personal friends with a former Heavy Weight Champ. He said to me " Why would I lose everything I worked for to hit someone that means nothing to me"
I read something by Frank Shamrock saying that he avoided street fights. Something about the risk of being stabbed or shot. He said a street fight was much more dangerous than a MMA fight. @@DP-gb8qu
The problem is when the far sides of the spectrum: ▪︎Start whittling away our Rights under the Constitution. ▪︎Tell Constitutionally protected Americans how to live their lives. Stop doing those 2 things and we're on our way to a happier society. The End.
wowalinbie I think they switched from the right to the left so they could get everyone to trust the left And then when everyone is on the left they switch to control from the left like a trap
This is sad, I see a reasonable comment with valid points about the extremes of the right and left and when I see the replies all I see is the right attacking the left. How did people stop becoming self-aware?
The smart people will join whatever side men like Jocko and Andy come "off the bench" for... owww shit Brain power and Veterans sooo... a revolution would get you to Starship Troopers... go for it antifa ahhahah Break the cycle.
God made dinosaurs God killed dinosaurs God made man Man killed God Man makes dinosaurs Dinosaur eats Nancy Pelosi, jerks his neck as if someone shot him, spits her out and screams, "fuck me...what is that? Pissyfish?"
Damm i have been saying for some time now is a cycle everytime this kind of political ideologies and social separations comes around is a cycle but is moving faster than ever before because social media and the media are pushing people feelings for personal gain.
I am an enemy of every Democrat in this country for the illegal things they've done to destroy the Constitution. Nope. I'm done trying to find common ground with purely evil people. They're not Americans.
the youtube comments are the only thing I tend to read, but they piss me off enough. I should probably get off shitstagram though. That's even *more* infuriating.
and one side believes in a magical fairy man in the sky who grants you wishes if you worship him. both sides are fucking pathetic. BOTH sides are full of fucking MORONS. pure idiots. the far left and the far right are so fucking putrid and worthless.
Grew up around fighters, mostly amateur boxers. And one thing you notice is that the guys who can actually fight almost NEVER want any kind of drama. There's nothing to prove for them because it's already been proven to themselves...and maybe a few poor bastards along the way. Fact.
I agree that is effectively true; however, the media machines are trying to cull individuals off to the extreme edges (either right or left) whenever they can.
@@dakotas76 Majority control the army because we fund it. The moderates on both sides are the ones who pay the taxes. Not poverty level Evangelicals living in rural broke states. Not inner city gang bangers or woke liberal kids. And moderates would have no problem letting the army or police go wild on a group that steps out of line.
I have two children. It's no longer about me, my future, my rights, my freedom...It's about theirs. If trouble comes, let it come in my time, so they can live in peace.
Damn straight, mate. Glad my wife and I don't have kids, I am recovering from severe injuries sustained in combat, she struggles with social anxiety disorder and both of us are working on our own training, our own ability to survive and our own financial security. No point in bringing kids into the world when we are so unsure of our own future to begin with, those with kids? I know they bring much joy and meaning, but I worry so much for all of you parents.
In my 47 years of life I've learned if you have ever been in a real fight you will never be in a hurry to do it again,the same goes for shooting someone it's not pleasant even when it's necessary,all these people calling for violence don't be in a hurry to die because that's what will happen when you leave the safety of your basement
People have no idea what’s coming. I’ve worked in the medical field for 30 years- I’ve learned to compartmentalize to get the job done. The lockdown proves how bat shit crazy people went - just wait till the shooting starts.
@@TvboxFinnan Don't muddy the waters with these hate-filled lies. YOu are causing undue chaos. Detach from antisocial petty partisan politics or you will lose your soul.
@@TvboxFinnan that 17 year old is a hero and didnt go there to kill it was self defense he went there to protect peoples property. They come on my property to burn it down and they will die I dont give a shit what color their skin is. I'll even let them choose the gun they will be shot with.
Violence is eventually going to happen on both sides. You cant expect to remain unharmed when you're looting, killing people and destroying property. A revolution based on personal gain will bring nothing but problems. However, you would be a fool not to expect violence when you maintain a system built on oppression, subtle segregation and foul play, you continue to attack the livelihood of a group of people for decades and it's only a matter of time until they get fed up and resort to the natural path of violence.
@@fatherscarecourtsdont1389 Capital liberation? Great example of how divided we are. That shit was angry white folks getting tricked into insurrection by a leader who now accepts no responsibility. Congress members fearing for their lives shouldn’t be perceived as a positive.
Denis Crisp, you nailed it sir and the corruption is on both sides of the Blue and Red Aisle is nothing but a game to these oligarchs who control the red and blue pawns to keep people divided. Division is nothing but a big win on top. Orwellian times!
@@temsedgwick9494 your synopsis is pretty much MSNBC talking points. Corruption is getting a pass now that the DNC is back in power. We had a president who was under attack every day from the DNC/ DEEPSTATE/ NEWSMEDIA and they attacked people like me. Tried psyopping the public and getting them to cower. Nope, we are being herded into a new reality like Chairman Mao, Stalin days as they radically redefine the USA
I had a former Army Ranger (officer) tell me that the only thing yelling does (not on the battle field, but during a debate/discussion) is establish dominance - that's it. Volume does not prove your point or make you right. Wise words.
I've told people for YEARS the only ones who want to get into fights are those that have never been in one (boxing, etc. aside). Even if you "win," you're going to be completely fucked up and looking over your shoulder for a long, long time.
Okay? The left is already murdering and weaponizing institutions to imprison their political opponents. It's their fault. I am not going to be a victim to yet another far left genocide.
There is a difference between knowing how to use a sword and when to use a sword.
Colton Crain unfortunately there is zero honor in war because we don’t use swords anymore, we have pussy noodles now.
@@jameswinchester5423 There is honor if those fighting die honorably.
F T no. There is no honor in modern war. Name me one war in the past 50 years that has been waged that has been about honor and not paying the pockets of the military industrial complex. Not Iraq Not Afghanistan and damn sure not Vietnam. War is fought and died by young men who don’t even know why they are there. But then again you are a joe Rogan fans you you probably drank the cool aid of “we are the best in the world, everything we do is right. Joes fans are some of the most ignorant on the planet.
@@jameswinchester5423 and F T i can kind of agree with both of you. Yes, with the weaponry we have now there isn't honor in modern combat. You can however still die with honor so long as you are fighting for is just.
@@jameswinchester5423 So if you go back and look at my comment what I said was "There is honor if those fighting die honorably". Soldiers don't start wars nor do they pick where to go, that's part of the sacrifice they make. A soldier doesn't get the luxury of choice he gets the privilege of service. The way he conducts himself in war is a reflection of the country as a whole, his family, and his morals. That is all I meant.
I don't buy into American exceptionalism at all, you should try not to make blanket statements about groups of people based on nothing but your feels. You come off as ignorant.
“War is hell” and that’s what the winners said...
El Sea did you know every shot to a different part of the body has a different smell rotten smell
...and that's the best thing to be said about it
@@TheBagwell269 well, there is the physical peace the winners friends have
El sea no one wins.
I grew up in actual war, my father fought in it. We won our freedom. It was worth it. Don't throw your freedom away
Just remember, sometimes the fight you were looking for isn't exactly the fight you get.
That’s so true
I'd love to see this exact conversation with these two men today. Same topic but now considering what the country has been through in the past 2 years.
The message would be the same.
It's unchanged. We combat ugly HateSpeech with more speech. Violence begets violence. People need to learn history.
You mean the past six years
exactly!!!!
weak men like them, are the reason we are here today
too afraid of dealing with the real shit, when its at home
it was about time then
its past time now
Malcolm X once said that people who call for "revolution" wouldn't whisper the word if they truly understood, in the entirety, exactly what they were asking for...
Amen
@tlessmo Russian Revolution was not military, it became military. Read a bit my dude. And Antifa are not revolutionaries, they are a disorganised group of anti-fascists who exist in other countries(where they are legitimately violent and people are scared of them like in Greece), people like American antifa are always the people before revolutionaries.
@@theblackestvoid true
@@Dan0TheMano the federal government would shut it down and enforce federal law. State guard could fight and other state militia groups, but they don't have the resources to fight the federal government. So I think it would get squashed quickly if any state tried that
“You have all the gear but you don’t practice with it”. And “if I have to get involved it’ll get pretty ugly pretty fast”. A person with common sense would react like this “I am not gonna show up at this guys door step, it will most likely not end in my favor”. A person that is affiliated with Antifa or radical BLM would react like this “Let’s go protest at this guys house and demand he give us all his stuff and destroy his property if he doesn’t”. How do you think the story ends in both scenarios?
Real Soldiers pray for peace, for they know the true horrors of war.
That was deep. Not joking.
i laugh when i see leftest women wanting to go toe to toe with men.. its painfully ironic they have never been in a real combat situation and wouldn't be able to hack it in a life or death scenario, neither could i but then again if i was ever in a war id be a cowardly marksman
Not even what's been happening, and if I have to clean up the puke of a fucked up kid one more time, the people in charge won't have to worry about an alien enemy, anymore.
Real soldiers also pray for war, because they don’t want to waste their years of training. It’s a situation... almost all soldier’s autobiographies explain this to some extent.
IronskullGM, good play. Make sure they think you are afraid, so never let them know. I forgot about that one for a moment. Should I delete it?
In most cases no one wins in a street fight. It really comes down to who loses less. Every fight I’ve ever been in has caused me some pain.
I’m 53 years old and this country and world is at its worst ever in my whole entire life and if it keeps going the way it is there’s NOOO doubt that Civil War is coming it’s coming fast !!!
Same age, I agree entirely. As soon as the Conservatives and pro-Constitutionalists have been pushed too far, it's going to be over very very quickly and at a cost the American population cannot deal with.
I think it can turn into a maelstorm of reasons and not only the US has become mad. It's just that among the western ones, has it prob. the most but I'm affraid everyone will turn bananas. Fox and any News or media should have a warning letter for Your health and safety. People are exposed to the most advanced propagand in history and there's no direction to find sanity or truth.
I've been seeing this since covid. Either that or we won't do anything. Cause as a country we still have a good enought life.
Leading to full human extinction!
Where are you from Richard Ernst?
"Only the dead have seen the end of war" - Plato
My favorite quote of all time. If the day does not require an AK it is good.
Dick Fageroni “I enjoy licking woman’s booty holes”
-Me
Dick Fageroni "I'm so deep because I put a quote on a video that talks about human and social issues"
So i guess playdough never saw WAR😐
Good thread lol
"I give my military career a C average"
Dude was in Seal Team 6. Talk about modest.
Majority of the special operations people I have met are incredibly humble.
Yeah man. Wow.
"C" because he was never in a legitimate war. WWII was the last legitimate war US soldiers were involved in, Vietnam & Korea are debatable. All US wars since then were only to combat an enemy previously receiving US tax payer dollars in aid (CIA funding: Taliban/Osama bin Laden/Al-Qaeda(CIA Operation Cyclone), Iran(Iran-Contra Affair), Iraq(1980s CIA funding/aid to build chemical weapons)), or directly created by US foreign policy (ISI/ISIS=2003 US Invasion of Iraq/Operation Cyclone). Meanwhile on Sept 11, 2001, the US allowed the largest terrorist attack in world history--even worse, it was on US soil.
P D Do you even operate, bro?
@@pd5826 I believe blowing open doors and hunting bad guys that might detonate themselves at any moment is "legitimate combat" what a jack ass you are
Matt Walsh said it best, "if we can't agree on something as simple as what a woman is , how are we gonna agree on anything?"
THAT is a great point. When reality isn't and facts aren't anymore, there is no avoiding the eventuality of war. It may not come today or tomorrow but it will be in my lifetime. I know that to be a fact. 100%
Exactly....
Because the only people who talk about crap like that is you far right dumbasses
Nobody with an ounce of sanity should want to see a civil war. I grew up in an extremely violent background and the first thing I wanted to do was get away from it as soon as I could. Most people can't understand how traumatizing it is and it never completely leaves you.
So having pedos indoctrinate and rape children is better than civil war? Tell that to parents.
I understand that but let me ask you this if they came for you are you going to make sure you defend yourself? What if they come for others? I'm not talking the government BTW I am talking about these idiots out there. Look at Portland today. I know someone who is chased down the street there because someone thought they saw him with the Proud Boys.
Looking at the USA from abroad. I think that Trump would be perfectly willing to see a civil war if it got him what he wanted. Particularly if it kept him out of prison.
Shut up, there's so many people have gone through what you've gone through and they'll have different perspectives
Too many Americans focused on being left or right, not enough focused on being a good person!
Interesting and zen about left and right.
Hard to be a good person when you're attacked for a hat.
@S H people wearing MAGA hats for one
It’s a nice thought, but identity politics are going to be the death of democracy.
B LMAO yeah man historically people have been attacked for way less than that, and they managed to still be good people. You being a conservative, you should understand inflated statistics and know that it is an extreme minority of people who get attacked for wearing MAGA hats, lets be real
Everyone wants to get in a gun fight, until they're IN A GUN FIGHT
Gun fights suck...
I agree ..all these badasses and no clue..
I don't want to get into a gunfight. I'll either die, be badly hurt, or do the same to someone else. Absolute last resort.
It's one of those things that suck ass in the moment. But the next day kinda fun. So my pet cat tells me.
@@Hackattack7 I'd rather not find out.
Thank you Joe Rogan and Andy Stumpf for your comments on this subject. In my entire life, I have never been as concerned about our country as I am today. I wish our history of the founding of our country and the horror of the wars our men and women engaged in over even the last 70 years was taught in high school history. It might bring a thread of sanity in this crazy social environment. I really appreciate your perspectives. Mr. Rogan, it is clear why you are outperforming so many of the cable channels. As you noted, a man that knows about violence will steer away from that path.
Gods honest truth.ive always fought thru saying nothing to it but to live thru it..but untill u do,peoe have no idea what it's all about at the moment to the first bullet wizzes. If I never had to fire a shot again ide die a happy man.but history tells us all,unless selfless men step forward n stand for freedom n what's rite.we will continue to sprial into the abiss of destruction.only the dead have seen the end of war............
Civil War 2: All 6 Hours Of It
Social media is DEFINITELY part of the problem. A large part.
Agreed.
The technology that our past generations hoped would change the world for the best has backfired and is wasted when we could use this information and communication to better everything. I’m not a hippy but I’m so sick and tired of most humans I come across. Everyone is so self obsessed with themselves and worried about being stuck in the rat race to make money and acquire new shit that we don’t need.
A lot of people spout off stuff on social media saying things to people they would never say to someone if they had to look them in the eye.
Social media only highlight problem already present in the human condition. Meditate, develop one’s mindful awareness, and apply that awareness into your life and you will have a better relationship with social media if you set that as an intention.
@@onemindfulathlete6884yes
"War is sweet to those who have not experienced it.
"
Desiderius Erasmus
Documentaries Damn somebody has read TOLKIEN ,good for you.
One of the truest quotes I wish everyone knew, so many war mongers it’s unbelievable but they have no experience of i so they want it, they want what will destroy them it’s incredible
Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.
There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter. -Ernest Hemingway
(Not in agreement with this quote btw)
Everybody gangsta until Marshall law is implemented.
This channel is one of the very few that expresses the gray area that should be headline news. Thank you and don't stop.
Very intellectual, and philosophical discussion on current issues.
I find it amazing, when people who have seen extreme violence, or been forced to engage in it, generally, despise it after their "time/duty" has passed.
I was in LE for 29 years and have seen more bodies, and trauma than I can recall - yes I have tried. I also deplore violence, and agree 100% with this guest - people who haven't experienced continuous violence, don't understand what it does to the average person.
Great interview Joe! You really stepped up the quality for others to follow!!!
I served in Iraq and one thing I took away from it that and will always be with me was seeing first hand what happens when a country and/or society collapse. Trust me, I don't care what political persuasion you are, what religion you are, you do not want to be in a country during a war.
It really sickens me , reading these comments where people are almost frothing at the mouth for the chance to murder their fellow Americans. Their neighbors and friends ...all over rather simple differences of opinion and philosophy.
It's not just lefty socialist types though, there were a scary amount of comments right before voting day from conservatives saying "If Hillary wins, we need to revolt" Because they were convinced she was cheating or Trump was going to lose because of that grab her by the pussy stuff or whatever. If Hilary had won it'd be a lot of the conservatives still crying for civil war now 100%. Both sides are full of people who are convinced the other side are demons(literally with some of these religious conspiracy nuts)
@@fieldy409 oh its a two way street for sure but the far left and far right don't have the ability to understand that, blinders are making them think they are right and they can't see things from the other point of view. You need to be able to see things from more than just your point of view.
@@hairtrigger8317 And the adversarial nature is ruining democracies across the world, everywhere its left vs right. Reality is all people and parties are a mixture of left and right depending on what issue you ask them about.
Plus at the end of the day we agree on more things than we disagree on, all the stuff we don't argue on outweighs the key issues we do agree on. But everyone just blocks things that the other side put forth not because it isn't a good idea but just because its their idea. It's sad.
And a civil war in America would leave America never as strong again, possibly broken into seperate states or shrunk as other countries did opportunistic landgrabs, and then China would be the number 1 superpower which is scary.
@@fieldy409 But Hillary did cheat and still lost, She was literally given debate questions before hand to have an upper hand on Trump.
A military dude doesn't want conflict like how a professional fighter doesn't want a street fight, best take their advice.
@@wbbils7052 #trollalert
@@wbbils7052 wat r u fukin gey m8.
Most underrated comment in the thread. This is very true.
navy seals want to go shoot terrorists they foam at the mouth at the idea that’s a stupid opinion of you
@@BurnedSpace another troll?
I needed to see this. Thank you!
What Joe said about people remembering and getting you back reminds me of The Dynamite Kid getting lit up with a fist full of quarters.
Couldnt think of a more appropriate clip than this one today.
True dat
Exactly
Aged well. Confirm.
Honestly
Agreed!
God Bless You ALL.
❤
People calling for violence have never experienced violence.pray for peace.
Two things that never seem to last long: violence and peace.
Pray for peace prepare for war
I've experienced violence. Quite a bit. Still call for it. Dumbest quote of all time
Ted Kazcynkski If you call for violence you're a Damned rabid dog. You'd bring it on your women&kids??...because civilians don't escape its spillover.
people who would rather die on their knees pleading than fighting have no courage and no beliefs.
that said, you also shouldn't be hasty to get into a fight, it should be the last resort....but to say that you should never rise and fight is weak and devoid of belief and principle.
We can thank the Ivy League and all the so-called deconstructionists who are to,ignorant to understand how good they have it.
"First off, you have that on backwards" 🤣
'War is sweet to those who have no experience of it,
but the experienced man trembles exceedingly at heart on its approach.'
Cool story, some actually wants it to come and are happy when it strikes.
So that quote is obviously not for all.
I dont think anyone said this.
@@whiskyweasal89 en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Pindar
@@waldo2543 Did I say I wanted war or? lol
But those who have experienced it knows that at times it is needed. We don’t welcome it but we damned sure fight it when left with no reasonable choice.
One year later: well that escalated quickly
im a conspiracy theorist and we warned abiut this for years. we knew this was coming and yall still call us crazy
No it didn’t. I understand the post is semi-humorous, but the reality is this has been building and taking incremental steps for years. The lift got bolder and bolder with the outright violence. A couple weeks ago, there was a literal battle in a park between the two sides using shields, batons and bear mace. This past weekend, a guy with a BLM tattoo literally murdered a man on the street in front of his friend because they are going to vote for two different people. It’s taking years to get here, but make no mistake… It’s HERE. Now that the shooting has started, it’s just a matter of time before more people in the crowd are armed on both sides and the number of casualties per incident goes up.
@@evergray5063 proof?
TheGeneral proof of what? The 2 things I listed are on video and on UA-cam. “It’s a matter of time” is an opinion that is neither provable nor disprovable... so....
Yeah I was gonna say “that didn’t age well.”
I would love to see you two revisit this video with the same discussion today.
The thing I appreciate about Joe, is his unique ability to see both sides ( even if it’s limited). Joe was ( up until recently I fear) in a good position to moderate and help two opposing ideologies see a bit of each other’s perspective.
You can’t reason with someone who is totally closed off to debate. Wise words to remember “Never try to explain yourself to someone who is committed to misunderstanding you”
Tina, I can see that you have a clear head and understand perfectly, who and what you are dealing with. Anyone else who believe otherwise, is a fool.
@@hughmungus370 You shouldn’t read things into a persons comment that are blatantly false. Your perception of my comment is way off. I don’t believe in having my constitutional rights violated. My rights don’t end where another person’s fear begins. I’m anti mask, anti lockdown and I WILL Not get the vaccine. You are a prime example of my comment. Never assume. If you aren’t sure what I meant...just ask 🙄
Yes the Bible tells us that to argue with a fool'foolish person is an exercise in futility. Proverbs 26:4, Proverbs 29:9, Proverbs 18:2 , Proverbs 15:2, Proverbs 20:3 and Proverbs 18:6 . All taken from the ESV Bible
Yeah those dumb democrats.
Remove yourself from the debate. They need to get it out of there system. They wont listen to reason. 2 sides bent on destruction will settle for nothing less. Division and control destroys the controling and the divisive.
I love how the kids that get crippling anxiety from job interviews are the ones that think they want blood in the streets.
@@greysonG10 sometimes ya gotta
Exactly! It's best to ignore these people bc they are the ones living in mommies basement playing COD, trying to be keyboard warriors that have no lives, stirring the pot! People need to learn how to tune these fuckers out!
Liberals in a nutshell
Now THAT’S hilarious!!!
Job interviews? Shit they get panic attacks from the idea of having to call someone to order a pizza.
That was perfect,(Joe's answer)
Mushrooms 😂
It's good to watch old stuff like this. They talk about how there's no way out but here we are 4 years later...
Who's here right before the 2020 civil war
Between who exactly?
@@cstoddard408 Seriously? Let me provide you with THE answer: Left vs. Right. George Soros and Bill Gates have $$$BILLIONS invested in their social engineering experiment and Antifa to stoke the fires. Do you think the BLM movement is causing all of the destructive rioting? No! They're not! It's the antagonists (Antifa) who are instigating the violence...and they're just getting warmed up. Soros is "All In" for crippling America.
@@cstoddard408 right wing and left wing extremists. They WANT a civil war. Hopefully they'll obliterate each other only, so that the rest of us normal people can continue living our lives.
We’ll be damn lucky if this thing doesn’t pop off after the November election.
CStoddard against Democrats
When I was a young man and I got tired of minimum wage I went to school to learn how to weld and minimum wage was never again an issue. I took control of the problem and changed my own circumstances. What helped with that was the rich guy who owned the fabricating shop that hired me and paid me a decent wage to work for him. Revolution begins from within. Don't like your situation? Invest in yourself and change it.
That sounds like too much work for most people
What if you can't legally? I'm serious life is not fair for everyone I mean that sounds good but what about the rest of us ?The ones that are fed up with the whole gd thing life isn't fair I get it but that slow rage doesn't just go too sleep...never mind I sound unhinged.
@areuarealman7269 number one, what do you mean by 'legally'? If you got yourself jammed up with the law, then that's on you. Secondly, you're right. Life IS not fair, but you have more control over it than you might think. If you think you are a victim, then that's what you'll be. Make excuses why you can't, then you won't. Whatever happens to you, good or bad, is YOUR fault. Woody Allen once said, "90% of success is just showing up." A little self-discipline and prayer goes a long way.
I pray that never happens. But if it does I’m glad I will be on the side that owns most of the firearms and knows which bathroom to use.
There would be a lot of rainbow flag draped coffins
I love when JRE and Andy get together---I always learn so much from them
*Hits a person, notification appears: “They will remember that”*
Trophy unlocked: Public Menace
Colton Crain Hidden Trophy Unlocked: Florida crackhead causes mass shootings, black people blasting there brains out, fucked up skool systems! Wat a fucking joke
Clementine will remember that
@@justinblake552 memories 😭😭😭😭😭😭pootie pie and all the other dead channels
im from Somalia the civil war had devastated us completely he know what hes talking about
Islamists ?
@@chopperking007 No, a communist military dictatorship took over. He called together the heads of various clans to discuss their discontentment. He blew them up instead. He was ousted. Power vacuum yada yada
@@chopperking007 my friend, it's not religion that starts the war, it's people who twist the wording of the texts and force people into fighting for a false holy war. Islam strictly prohibits violence, it's in the texts and you can search then up yourself.
You should move to Minnesota and vote Democrat ;-)
@@GrantfromEarth why the fuck would he vote for those socialists? Democrats are domestic enemies. They want to infringe upon our rights and force dependency on the govt.
This is a balanced view in regards to thought and motivation, Rogan and Strumpf bring a discussion that is sound and reasoned.Rogan gets viewers because he is balanced, Strumpf brings life experience being in the teams and his applications in those teams and what the outcomes were.
Both very well spoken
I am right their with you Brother I know how you feel as a Military veteran.
I am from Croatia. I have spent '91-'95 in war in my country in Special Unit for Recon and Diversion. I will tell you this: YOU DON'T WANT WAR IN YOUR COUNTRY. I hope it will never happened to you, but if it happens, believe me, you will all agree with my capslocked part if you do not agree now. When war is in your country, it is not happening just to you as a fighter, it is happening to everybody and this part of "war in your country" is harder than fight itself.
Pray for your good health man. That must have been a fucking nightmare.
The abstraction of the internet has allowed people to just conflate things like violence and war with the media representation of violence and war.
Goddamn, 90s Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia. You know more than anyone
Thank you, Sonya, and welcome to the Divided States of America, now ruled by a mafioso crime boss. You would have liked it in the late 60s and early 70s, but those days is gone and won't be coming back anytime soon. But we're glad you're here. I grew up in Pittsburgh, PA and knew a lot of Croatian families there, very warm and loving people...like Americans once were.
Thanks man, really appreciated. It was crazy nightmare, you are right. One day I was that stoner kid, another I was crazy fighter, literally, i was 19 when I volunteered to go and fight, day after I finished highschool. I saw shits ppl can not imagine, worst part it was mostly done by ppl which were friends just few months ago. I am retired because of PTSD, but I am doing well now. Thanks to wonderful wife mostly. And my dog. Yep, this part of world was always fucked up. 1st WW started here, during 2nd all sides went berserk and done all kind of shits, then in '90s again. And still is boiling in Bosnia. We are fuckin crazy or cursed.
@Rod Frantz I am watching what is happening there, and I am sorry for that. Also I know that sometimes there is no option but war. Shit, I was in that situation, of course I know. But keep that option as a last one. Domestic war fucks up many generations, living and the ones not born yet. It is not like you can go do tour or two and come back in safety. There is no safety for anyone for many years. Economics is broken, all is going to hell. And at the end, after all that shit you see that only result is that old "fat rich cats" are dead, but new ones are already even "fatter and richer".
@@sonjabrajkina3995 Again man, I only hope the best for you. Suffering what you suffered takes a great deal of mental fortitude. I'm glad you have support that you can depend on and don't have to face that source of conflict ever again.
This clip is from 2019, but it still holds true today in 2020. You could almost mistake it for being posted a week ago.
Some Carlins bits from 70's seem super relative even today. Maybe the worlds changed but people havent. or something idk
Or today
AND STILL TODAY IN 2021 ALMOST 2022 AND WILL ALWAYZ BE TRUE!
2021 here, guess what, its worse.
@@andrewreil3938 Sadly, not worse than 2022. Grab your ammo and popcorn
where is the full podcast of this?
Would love to hear you two, talk about this stuff now.
I stopped using social media a couple years ago. Now I just gotta stop spending so much time on UA-cam lol
You and me both buddy
If youre on UA-cam you're engaged with social media. ...lol... It was a cute thought though. 🤓
I only watch UA-cam.
John Dough hahaha just jumping to the opportunity to shit on someone doing something that makes them happy. I think UA-cam is one of the better social media’s
@@BreadWhite-kt3qk I was simply stating the facts. Attacking stupid people is fun though.
The one who hates war the most is the soldier.
@@jackoates6418 huh? how is that nonsense
@@jackoates6418 good point, you're probably right
@@jackoates6418 You have a point
Some of them are addicted to war man
@@rubengdful Well, it's not their fault. It's very hard to adjust to normal life once you come back from war. Their experiences on the battlefield were so intense that they became "addicted to war". Not addicted to the conflict of nations, but addicted to the harsh lifestyle they had back then.
22yrs as a bouncer, many thousands of fights, not once did I ever have to fight a trained fighter. Not one time. It's always people unfamiliar with violence who want to go there.
How can you peacefully talk to someone who approves of people like Hillary Clinton, who are knowningly breaking the law time and time again, and nothing is being done about it? You can't. When they start making their own party members, pay for the laws they break, then maybe we can peacefully come together. But thats what needs to happen first.
Hillary Clinton? What about Donald Trump and Co. Can't talk to someone that lies repeatedly and is dumb as a rock.
This aged well
They thought it was bad 16 months ago? Those were the good old days!
No shit
im a conspiracy theorsist and we been taking about this coming for years, but we are crazy and he is right
@@kalebvera1841 right and now they're all scared (rightfully so) as If weren't trying to warm people for years but all we got is "you nut" "tin foil hat" ect ..
No kidding.
My life has been so much better since I got off social media.
It just did nothing but piss me off.
I'm happier now, I recommend the same to you.
The irony is strong with this one
UA-cam is social media.. but I get your point of view.
Amen to that!
I agree with you, social media serves absolutely no positive purpose at all. This is my first day back from a 2 month layoff of UA-cam and i do feel much better. I've been on today now for a half hour. I'm going to do my best to get off as soon as i end this comment.
same
One of these days, the people gonna be to tired to the point where you can’t do anything about it anymore, all that this country has done before our time and now all of that gonna spill over one day and we gonna have to pay for it except we won’t be cause those who were responsible will either way
THANK YOU JOE for 8 minute mark on. the voice of reason
Funny that we’re living in a time where you can be non-binary when it comes to gender, but not politics.
Right
Good point!
There's not enough likes in the world to give this comment what it deserves..
That’s actually extremely well put.
Why is it comments with the dumbest jokes get 50k + likes but truth like this gets buried
"You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end." - William Tecumseh Sherman
I remember being a sophomore in hs and i was leaving school one day, when a bulky man approached me saying i looked some guy that jumped him in the summer time. I had to speak him out of it, and prove It wasn’t me. Eventually we became friends because he felt bad for the accusation.. i can tell he never forgot about getting beat up tho. He said he got buff just to make sure if he saw those guys again, he’d destroy them. It really does stick with you
Mushrooms LOL love it.
People calling for war, have never wiped their brother's brain matter off their face. Pray for peace..... It's so much better.
@@IvanMatvijenko I hope you are wrong. The very thought of having to harm one more human being is more than my conscience wants to bear. Can I do it? yes. Will I do it? If there is no other alternative. Do I want to? No.
Pray for peaceful resolutions, detest war, and live with a clean conscience. It makes life so much more bearable. trust me.
@@bravo2p366 The biggest harm to a human being is taking his freedom away, human without freedom is not a human anymore, its already murder... Also war is just a cycle, its how nature keeps things balanced. Its normal for this planet with the current lvl of intellect amongst humans... of course intelligent person is able to say that war bring no good, however usually still ends up to appear of benefit to both!
@@IvanMatvijenko I'm sure you are right, but lets agree violence should be the last resort in any disagreement.
@@bravo2p366 Killing unborn babies is just as much of murder as any other, somehow its first resort not last. Would have to disagree with you every situation is different! Lets not forget that officially ww2 never ended it was a truth treaty for 7 years only that expired, however now its clear now who pro life and freedom and who is against life, I would say that we finally have entered bipolar world where enemies and friends coexist and live next to each other and see each other daily. At least for me its a warning bell telling me to move out of big cities closer to small towns. Killing people... I look at it a duty that need to be carried out when evil is out of control, much rather prefer to die defending my family and country then cancer or cardiovascular disease or accident... its what a man does... defends his family! Best way to avoid war is be always ready for it! It was this way, it is this way and it will always be this way!
@@IvanMatvijenko I live in the country, because I desire to live in peace. I keep my powder dry, and my skills honed. Not because I am afraid, but because I refuse to be a victim, and because I wish to live free. I am 60 years old and lived enough for two lifetimes. I am old and wise enough to know what's worth getting riled up about, and what's not. I don't allow myself to be drawn into other men's passions or paranoia. I know the truth, and am therefore free. The truth of the matter is everyone is so quick to justify their actions whether they are correct or not. Abortion is wrong and there is no excuse for it, those responsible wil stand in judgement for it. But, neither you or I or anyone else have the right, other than to morally protest. Violence is not justified or we would be no better than BLM or Antifa. No sir, if you want violence, and that is your ilk then you and I will never agree.
I swore an oath to defend the constitution 41 years ago, and I do it every day against gangsters thugs and socialists. Not with buck and ball but with words, in hopes that the former wil never be necessary.
And here we are.. 1 year from this broadcast.. and closer to a civil war then ever..
@Todd Keno sure 🙄
@Todd Keno have you not been following the past 4 years buddy? The “right” does ONE thing and you all wig out 🙄🥴 to bad it wasn’t even republicans it was Antifa and BLM supporters and it was planned months ahead of time
@Todd Keno where was your outrage for all the children BLM killed in the streets in cold blood IS THAT NOT TERRORISM?
@Todd Keno where was your outrage when 3+ BILLION dollars in damage was done in cities all across the country? Peoples businesses burned down? Car lots burned down? Homes destroyed....etc etc....where you been bud? That’s literally terrorism at its finest....700 cops injured and several dead. Several innocent by standers dead, the list goes on....grow up dude...if you can’t see the TRUE problem here, Yank your eye balls out of your head because apparently they don’t connect to your little tiny pea brain!
@Todd Keno have you seen the news? The Democratic Party TELLING people to attack and arm them selfs and incite violence? Have you had your head in the sand dude? Or are you just completely ignorant?
A good "selective" thanos snap would fix our problems.
Me? Retired Army, 31 years, 2 wars, 3 deployments, Combat Arms. We do not want a civil war, trust me on this.
'If you've seen one day of war, you'd pray to never see another' - Napoleon Bonaparte
Reprogramming Mind the irony that he said that quote
Napoleon Bonaparte was a war monger
@@sshelton1433 Depends on your perspective. Others saw it as him doing what he had to.
Fleece Johnson not even, off the top of my head didn’t he declare war 2 out of the 7 wars he was in? Everyone else was warmongering but just got hard dicked
"The Bigger the LIE, the more Readily is it believed." -- Donald Trump
Andy: what's the navigable route out of that
Joe: mushrooms
DMT
Well we haven't tried it so far, and it hasn't been fixed yet
There is some truth to that my friend , just read up on it.
Seemed to work for the Vietnam generation...
I'm an old Vietnam Vet and understand your frustration, I have been frustrated for over 50 years. If we were to have a civil war, our enemies would strike us then for sure. Actually, I expect it anytime now.
I’ve always said the idea of our nation having only two parties (left and right) it inevitably boils down to good vs evil in most peoples mind.
I am personal friends with a former Heavy Weight Champ. He said to me " Why would I lose everything I worked for to hit someone that means nothing to me"
Jon Jones constantly pissing dirty driving drunk but I’m supposed to believe he don’t want to hit people to risk his career 🤣 very smooth joe
I read something by Frank Shamrock saying that he avoided street fights. Something about the risk of being stabbed or shot. He said a street fight was much more dangerous than a MMA fight. @@DP-gb8qu
Cool name.
The problem is when the far sides of the spectrum:
▪︎Start whittling away our Rights under the Constitution.
▪︎Tell Constitutionally protected Americans how to live their lives.
Stop doing those 2 things and we're on our way to a happier society.
The End.
Your user name does not suit you because those are words of wisdom lol
dingus they want full government control
wowalinbie I think they switched from the right to the left so they could get everyone to trust the left
And then when everyone is on the left they switch to control from the left like a trap
That's legit the opposite of the left - let people be who they want as long as it doesn't hurt others.
This is sad, I see a reasonable comment with valid points about the extremes of the right and left and when I see the replies all I see is the right attacking the left. How did people stop becoming self-aware?
Such a humble gentleman. He gave himself a C. If you don’t know (because he doesn’t advertise it) he’s a DEVGRU Operator. Elite of elite warrior.
'Be calm so that we can come in and take control while you are half sleeping'
Mighty algorithm, we meet again.
Hard Times Make Strong Men
Strong Men Make Good Times
Good Times Make Weak Men
Weak Men Make Hard Times
The smart people will join whatever side men like Jocko and Andy come "off the bench" for... owww shit
Brain power and Veterans sooo... a revolution would get you to Starship Troopers... go for it antifa ahhahah Break the cycle.
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Right before they descended into endless civil wars.
God made dinosaurs
God killed dinosaurs
God made man
Man killed God
Man makes dinosaurs
Dinosaur eats Nancy Pelosi, jerks his neck as if someone shot him, spits her out and screams, "fuck me...what is that? Pissyfish?"
Damm i have been saying for some time now is a cycle everytime this kind of political ideologies and social separations comes around is a cycle but is moving faster than ever before because social media and the media are pushing people feelings for personal gain.
Those who do not learn from history are bound to repeat the mistakes from history.
We need to understand that people differ in their opinions, but it doesn't necessarily make us enemies.
I am an enemy of every Democrat in this country for the illegal things they've done to destroy the Constitution. Nope. I'm done trying to find common ground with purely evil people. They're not Americans.
Have an independent mind, keep a well oiled moral compass, and get after it every single day😀
P R E A C H.
💯
winner
Absolutely
Don't forget the loaded gun.
“Keep your ammo dry and your horses watered.”
Dogman tossed my salad full mass
Shut up.
Hope he goes more into detail one day about potential civil war
"the tyranny of Or" Man, that statement is both heavy and absolutely on point.
taking months off facebook is the best thing thats ever happened to my mental health
Cyberus Morphous never having it is the best. I am a dying breed of the non Facebook user
@@jamessteers u r a god amongst men
I couldn't agree more. I've been off Facebook for a year now and I don't miss the bs one bit.
That’s for sure. Twitter is even worse.
the youtube comments are the only thing I tend to read, but they piss me off enough. I should probably get off shitstagram though. That's even *more* infuriating.
When the people who just want to be left alone get involved then the shit will get bad.
Hence Don’t tread on Me!
because when people that want to be left alone get involved they're at the point when they have nothing left to lose and I'm there soon
@@Dalnutt very true, hence Don’t Tread on Me
Joe of the past, I'm watching this 7/1/2022. Bananas.
Everyone’s talking like civil war would mean everyone would be using jujitsu against each other.
One side has all the guns. The other side can't figure out what bathroom to use. .... this won't take long. .
What would you think of a mass release of inmates after prison reform and UBI?
Gun lovers and the right aren’t synonymous
and one side believes in a magical fairy man in the sky who grants you wishes if you worship him. both sides are fucking pathetic. BOTH sides are full of fucking MORONS. pure idiots. the far left and the far right are so fucking putrid and worthless.
@@girlslaughingjp Case in point me left and gun lover
😂😂
Stop giving your kids Participation Trophies when they lose.
@James Smythe that's pretty good
@James Smythe 🤣😂 Roasted
@James Smythe that is amazing.
Dude, public schools are completely fucked. They had a huge hand in creating all this bullshit happening now.
@James Smythe No, they need to be remembered. Erasing history is straight-up fascism, the MO of every cunt who has toppled one.
How do we stop the train because the track running out
Grew up around fighters, mostly amateur boxers. And one thing you notice is that the guys who can actually fight almost NEVER want any kind of drama. There's nothing to prove for them because it's already been proven to themselves...and maybe a few poor bastards along the way. Fact.
I would venture to say that a majority of the country is in the middle. We just want to live our lives.
I think you’re very correct
Problem is that the majority is silent or they're silenced
I agree that is effectively true; however, the media machines are trying to cull individuals off to the extreme edges (either right or left) whenever they can.
@@dakotas76 the loud mouths always trump the restrained
@@dakotas76 Majority control the army because we fund it. The moderates on both sides are the ones who pay the taxes. Not poverty level Evangelicals living in rural broke states. Not inner city gang bangers or woke liberal kids.
And moderates would have no problem letting the army or police go wild on a group that steps out of line.
"War is glorious to those that have no experience of it"
War is never glorious but sometimes necessary.
@@lcbflorida Almost never necessary.
I know plenty veterans who have killed and enjoy it.
@@resmarted enjoyed it*
Most people calling for violence wouldn’t survive the first thirty seconds.
I like Andy Stumpfs modesty about his time in the military.
Twix started the left right fight
The Finesse fucking Twix, I never saw it coming.
I have two children. It's no longer about me, my future, my rights, my freedom...It's about theirs. If trouble comes, let it come in my time, so they can live in peace.
@@venomsucks Yes of course, so they can do the same for their little children if need be. Not sure, but I think you missed the point.
Amen
But it's their lifetime now too.
Damn straight, mate. Glad my wife and I don't have kids, I am recovering from severe injuries sustained in combat, she struggles with social anxiety disorder and both of us are working on our own training, our own ability to survive and our own financial security. No point in bringing kids into the world when we are so unsure of our own future to begin with, those with kids? I know they bring much joy and meaning, but I worry so much for all of you parents.
TheOkWoodsman boom wish I had read a little further because I said something similar. Well said sir and I couldn’t agree more.
0:44 watching this in 2023. Will Smith 😂
Watching this 5 years later and it turns out the person who pushes us closer and closer to civil war is joe Rogan
In my 47 years of life I've learned if you have ever been in a real fight you will never be in a hurry to do it again,the same goes for shooting someone it's not pleasant even when it's necessary,all these people calling for violence don't be in a hurry to die because that's what will happen when you leave the safety of your basement
People have no idea what’s coming. I’ve worked in the medical field for 30 years- I’ve learned to compartmentalize to get the job done. The lockdown proves how bat shit crazy people went - just wait till the shooting starts.
You say that because you're sane. 17 yr olds bringing guns across state lines to kill black people are not sane.
@@TvboxFinnan Don't muddy the waters with these hate-filled lies. YOu are causing undue chaos. Detach from antisocial petty partisan politics or you will lose your soul.
@@TvboxFinnan that 17 year old is a hero and didnt go there to kill it was self defense he went there to protect peoples property. They come on my property to burn it down and they will die I dont give a shit what color their skin is. I'll even let them choose the gun they will be shot with.
Violence is eventually going to happen on both sides. You cant expect to remain unharmed when you're looting, killing people and destroying property. A revolution based on personal gain will bring nothing but problems. However, you would be a fool not to expect violence when you maintain a system built on oppression, subtle segregation and foul play, you continue to attack the livelihood of a group of people for decades and it's only a matter of time until they get fed up and resort to the natural path of violence.
One when we see corruption get a pass, it stirs the desire for justice, and when there is no justice things get out of order.
You're 100% correct.
@@fatherscarecourtsdont1389 Capital liberation? Great example of how divided we are. That shit was angry white folks getting tricked into insurrection by a leader who now accepts no responsibility. Congress members fearing for their lives shouldn’t be perceived as a positive.
Denis Crisp, you nailed it sir and the corruption is on both sides of the Blue and Red Aisle is nothing but a game to these oligarchs who control the red and blue pawns to keep people divided. Division is nothing but a big win on top. Orwellian times!
@@temsedgwick9494 your synopsis is pretty much MSNBC talking points. Corruption is getting a pass now that the DNC is back in power. We had a president who was under attack every day from the DNC/ DEEPSTATE/ NEWSMEDIA and they attacked people like me. Tried psyopping the public and getting them to cower. Nope, we are being herded into a new reality like Chairman Mao, Stalin days as they radically redefine the USA
@@antonvanveen8824 please share how your synopsis differs from Newsmax talking points? Or OAN?
I had a former Army Ranger (officer) tell me that the only thing yelling does (not on the battle field, but during a debate/discussion) is establish dominance - that's it. Volume does not prove your point or make you right. Wise words.
I've told people for YEARS the only ones who want to get into fights are those that have never been in one (boxing, etc. aside). Even if you "win," you're going to be completely fucked up and looking over your shoulder for a long, long time.
Okay? The left is already murdering and weaponizing institutions to imprison their political opponents. It's their fault. I am not going to be a victim to yet another far left genocide.