i laugh when i see leftest women wanting to go toe to toe with men.. its painfully ironic they have never been in a real combat situation and wouldn't be able to hack it in a life or death scenario, neither could i but then again if i was ever in a war id be a cowardly marksman
Not even what's been happening, and if I have to clean up the puke of a fucked up kid one more time, the people in charge won't have to worry about an alien enemy, anymore.
Real soldiers also pray for war, because they don’t want to waste their years of training. It’s a situation... almost all soldier’s autobiographies explain this to some extent.
B LMAO yeah man historically people have been attacked for way less than that, and they managed to still be good people. You being a conservative, you should understand inflated statistics and know that it is an extreme minority of people who get attacked for wearing MAGA hats, lets be real
The technology that our past generations hoped would change the world for the best has backfired and is wasted when we could use this information and communication to better everything. I’m not a hippy but I’m so sick and tired of most humans I come across. Everyone is so self obsessed with themselves and worried about being stuck in the rat race to make money and acquire new shit that we don’t need.
Social media only highlight problem already present in the human condition. Meditate, develop one’s mindful awareness, and apply that awareness into your life and you will have a better relationship with social media if you set that as an intention.
F T no. There is no honor in modern war. Name me one war in the past 50 years that has been waged that has been about honor and not paying the pockets of the military industrial complex. Not Iraq Not Afghanistan and damn sure not Vietnam. War is fought and died by young men who don’t even know why they are there. But then again you are a joe Rogan fans you you probably drank the cool aid of “we are the best in the world, everything we do is right. Joes fans are some of the most ignorant on the planet.
@@jameswinchester5423 and F T i can kind of agree with both of you. Yes, with the weaponry we have now there isn't honor in modern combat. You can however still die with honor so long as you are fighting for is just.
@@jameswinchester5423 So if you go back and look at my comment what I said was "There is honor if those fighting die honorably". Soldiers don't start wars nor do they pick where to go, that's part of the sacrifice they make. A soldier doesn't get the luxury of choice he gets the privilege of service. The way he conducts himself in war is a reflection of the country as a whole, his family, and his morals. That is all I meant. I don't buy into American exceptionalism at all, you should try not to make blanket statements about groups of people based on nothing but your feels. You come off as ignorant.
Malcolm X once said that people who call for "revolution" wouldn't whisper the word if they truly understood, in the entirety, exactly what they were asking for...
@tlessmo Russian Revolution was not military, it became military. Read a bit my dude. And Antifa are not revolutionaries, they are a disorganised group of anti-fascists who exist in other countries(where they are legitimately violent and people are scared of them like in Greece), people like American antifa are always the people before revolutionaries.
@@Dan0TheMano the federal government would shut it down and enforce federal law. State guard could fight and other state militia groups, but they don't have the resources to fight the federal government. So I think it would get squashed quickly if any state tried that
“You have all the gear but you don’t practice with it”. And “if I have to get involved it’ll get pretty ugly pretty fast”. A person with common sense would react like this “I am not gonna show up at this guys door step, it will most likely not end in my favor”. A person that is affiliated with Antifa or radical BLM would react like this “Let’s go protest at this guys house and demand he give us all his stuff and destroy his property if he doesn’t”. How do you think the story ends in both scenarios?
5 ft 9 230 lb I lived with the toughest men commercial fisherman we're the tough guys went always a big bully my name is David and I slayed three Giants the first was a ex-marine 1982 Golden gloves champion named Frosty he wouldn't quit after being choked out twice I grabbed him by his biker beard after the third submission and tossed him into a cactus garden when he came back to the boat the next day his face was black and blue up to his hairline we shook hands and went out drinking together and I never boasted about it
The only time I ever lost a fight what's in my hometown bar where are 325 lb weightlifter tried to sucker me he said it was the hardest he ever hit someone the look on his face before I put him and six other bouncers to sleep was pretty hilarious got out the door before they got me down then the cops took over I ended up with seven assaulting a bouncer charges and 13 assaulting an officer charges unbelievable true luckily I was in the bar with the police of chiefs sons and knew him well all charges were dropped
You lose anyway only not fighting is a win the other two is prison time or hospital and loosing 3 days of pay and having a blackeye is only cool If you are a real fighter
I served in Iraq and one thing I took away from it that and will always be with me was seeing first hand what happens when a country and/or society collapse. Trust me, I don't care what political persuasion you are, what religion you are, you do not want to be in a country during a war.
It really sickens me , reading these comments where people are almost frothing at the mouth for the chance to murder their fellow Americans. Their neighbors and friends ...all over rather simple differences of opinion and philosophy.
It's not just lefty socialist types though, there were a scary amount of comments right before voting day from conservatives saying "If Hillary wins, we need to revolt" Because they were convinced she was cheating or Trump was going to lose because of that grab her by the pussy stuff or whatever. If Hilary had won it'd be a lot of the conservatives still crying for civil war now 100%. Both sides are full of people who are convinced the other side are demons(literally with some of these religious conspiracy nuts)
@@fieldy409 oh its a two way street for sure but the far left and far right don't have the ability to understand that, blinders are making them think they are right and they can't see things from the other point of view. You need to be able to see things from more than just your point of view.
@@hairtrigger8317 And the adversarial nature is ruining democracies across the world, everywhere its left vs right. Reality is all people and parties are a mixture of left and right depending on what issue you ask them about. Plus at the end of the day we agree on more things than we disagree on, all the stuff we don't argue on outweighs the key issues we do agree on. But everyone just blocks things that the other side put forth not because it isn't a good idea but just because its their idea. It's sad. And a civil war in America would leave America never as strong again, possibly broken into seperate states or shrunk as other countries did opportunistic landgrabs, and then China would be the number 1 superpower which is scary.
One of the truest quotes I wish everyone knew, so many war mongers it’s unbelievable but they have no experience of i so they want it, they want what will destroy them it’s incredible
There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter. -Ernest Hemingway (Not in agreement with this quote btw)
Nobody with an ounce of sanity should want to see a civil war. I grew up in an extremely violent background and the first thing I wanted to do was get away from it as soon as I could. Most people can't understand how traumatizing it is and it never completely leaves you.
I understand that but let me ask you this if they came for you are you going to make sure you defend yourself? What if they come for others? I'm not talking the government BTW I am talking about these idiots out there. Look at Portland today. I know someone who is chased down the street there because someone thought they saw him with the Proud Boys.
Looking at the USA from abroad. I think that Trump would be perfectly willing to see a civil war if it got him what he wanted. Particularly if it kept him out of prison.
But those who have experienced it knows that at times it is needed. We don’t welcome it but we damned sure fight it when left with no reasonable choice.
"C" because he was never in a legitimate war. WWII was the last legitimate war US soldiers were involved in, Vietnam & Korea are debatable. All US wars since then were only to combat an enemy previously receiving US tax payer dollars in aid (CIA funding: Taliban/Osama bin Laden/Al-Qaeda(CIA Operation Cyclone), Iran(Iran-Contra Affair), Iraq(1980s CIA funding/aid to build chemical weapons)), or directly created by US foreign policy (ISI/ISIS=2003 US Invasion of Iraq/Operation Cyclone). Meanwhile on Sept 11, 2001, the US allowed the largest terrorist attack in world history--even worse, it was on US soil.
Thank you Joe Rogan and Andy Stumpf for your comments on this subject. In my entire life, I have never been as concerned about our country as I am today. I wish our history of the founding of our country and the horror of the wars our men and women engaged in over even the last 70 years was taught in high school history. It might bring a thread of sanity in this crazy social environment. I really appreciate your perspectives. Mr. Rogan, it is clear why you are outperforming so many of the cable channels. As you noted, a man that knows about violence will steer away from that path.
Gods honest truth.ive always fought thru saying nothing to it but to live thru it..but untill u do,peoe have no idea what it's all about at the moment to the first bullet wizzes. If I never had to fire a shot again ide die a happy man.but history tells us all,unless selfless men step forward n stand for freedom n what's rite.we will continue to sprial into the abiss of destruction.only the dead have seen the end of war............
You can’t reason with someone who is totally closed off to debate. Wise words to remember “Never try to explain yourself to someone who is committed to misunderstanding you”
@@hughmungus370 You shouldn’t read things into a persons comment that are blatantly false. Your perception of my comment is way off. I don’t believe in having my constitutional rights violated. My rights don’t end where another person’s fear begins. I’m anti mask, anti lockdown and I WILL Not get the vaccine. You are a prime example of my comment. Never assume. If you aren’t sure what I meant...just ask 🙄
Yes the Bible tells us that to argue with a fool'foolish person is an exercise in futility. Proverbs 26:4, Proverbs 29:9, Proverbs 18:2 , Proverbs 15:2, Proverbs 20:3 and Proverbs 18:6 . All taken from the ESV Bible
Remove yourself from the debate. They need to get it out of there system. They wont listen to reason. 2 sides bent on destruction will settle for nothing less. Division and control destroys the controling and the divisive.
people who would rather die on their knees pleading than fighting have no courage and no beliefs. that said, you also shouldn't be hasty to get into a fight, it should be the last resort....but to say that you should never rise and fight is weak and devoid of belief and principle.
I am from Croatia. I have spent '91-'95 in war in my country in Special Unit for Recon and Diversion. I will tell you this: YOU DON'T WANT WAR IN YOUR COUNTRY. I hope it will never happened to you, but if it happens, believe me, you will all agree with my capslocked part if you do not agree now. When war is in your country, it is not happening just to you as a fighter, it is happening to everybody and this part of "war in your country" is harder than fight itself.
Pray for your good health man. That must have been a fucking nightmare. The abstraction of the internet has allowed people to just conflate things like violence and war with the media representation of violence and war. Goddamn, 90s Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia. You know more than anyone
Thank you, Sonya, and welcome to the Divided States of America, now ruled by a mafioso crime boss. You would have liked it in the late 60s and early 70s, but those days is gone and won't be coming back anytime soon. But we're glad you're here. I grew up in Pittsburgh, PA and knew a lot of Croatian families there, very warm and loving people...like Americans once were.
Thanks man, really appreciated. It was crazy nightmare, you are right. One day I was that stoner kid, another I was crazy fighter, literally, i was 19 when I volunteered to go and fight, day after I finished highschool. I saw shits ppl can not imagine, worst part it was mostly done by ppl which were friends just few months ago. I am retired because of PTSD, but I am doing well now. Thanks to wonderful wife mostly. And my dog. Yep, this part of world was always fucked up. 1st WW started here, during 2nd all sides went berserk and done all kind of shits, then in '90s again. And still is boiling in Bosnia. We are fuckin crazy or cursed.
@Rod Frantz I am watching what is happening there, and I am sorry for that. Also I know that sometimes there is no option but war. Shit, I was in that situation, of course I know. But keep that option as a last one. Domestic war fucks up many generations, living and the ones not born yet. It is not like you can go do tour or two and come back in safety. There is no safety for anyone for many years. Economics is broken, all is going to hell. And at the end, after all that shit you see that only result is that old "fat rich cats" are dead, but new ones are already even "fatter and richer".
@@sonjabrajkina3995 Again man, I only hope the best for you. Suffering what you suffered takes a great deal of mental fortitude. I'm glad you have support that you can depend on and don't have to face that source of conflict ever again.
No it didn’t. I understand the post is semi-humorous, but the reality is this has been building and taking incremental steps for years. The lift got bolder and bolder with the outright violence. A couple weeks ago, there was a literal battle in a park between the two sides using shields, batons and bear mace. This past weekend, a guy with a BLM tattoo literally murdered a man on the street in front of his friend because they are going to vote for two different people. It’s taking years to get here, but make no mistake… It’s HERE. Now that the shooting has started, it’s just a matter of time before more people in the crowd are armed on both sides and the number of casualties per incident goes up.
TheGeneral proof of what? The 2 things I listed are on video and on UA-cam. “It’s a matter of time” is an opinion that is neither provable nor disprovable... so....
THAT is a great point. When reality isn't and facts aren't anymore, there is no avoiding the eventuality of war. It may not come today or tomorrow but it will be in my lifetime. I know that to be a fact. 100%
@@chopperking007 No, a communist military dictatorship took over. He called together the heads of various clans to discuss their discontentment. He blew them up instead. He was ousted. Power vacuum yada yada
@@chopperking007 my friend, it's not religion that starts the war, it's people who twist the wording of the texts and force people into fighting for a false holy war. Islam strictly prohibits violence, it's in the texts and you can search then up yourself.
@@GrantfromEarth why the fuck would he vote for those socialists? Democrats are domestic enemies. They want to infringe upon our rights and force dependency on the govt.
@@cstoddard408 Seriously? Let me provide you with THE answer: Left vs. Right. George Soros and Bill Gates have $$$BILLIONS invested in their social engineering experiment and Antifa to stoke the fires. Do you think the BLM movement is causing all of the destructive rioting? No! They're not! It's the antagonists (Antifa) who are instigating the violence...and they're just getting warmed up. Soros is "All In" for crippling America.
@@cstoddard408 right wing and left wing extremists. They WANT a civil war. Hopefully they'll obliterate each other only, so that the rest of us normal people can continue living our lives.
I’m 53 years old and this country and world is at its worst ever in my whole entire life and if it keeps going the way it is there’s NOOO doubt that Civil War is coming it’s coming fast !!!
Same age, I agree entirely. As soon as the Conservatives and pro-Constitutionalists have been pushed too far, it's going to be over very very quickly and at a cost the American population cannot deal with.
I think it can turn into a maelstorm of reasons and not only the US has become mad. It's just that among the western ones, has it prob. the most but I'm affraid everyone will turn bananas. Fox and any News or media should have a warning letter for Your health and safety. People are exposed to the most advanced propagand in history and there's no direction to find sanity or truth.
Exactly! It's best to ignore these people bc they are the ones living in mommies basement playing COD, trying to be keyboard warriors that have no lives, stirring the pot! People need to learn how to tune these fuckers out!
I agree with you, social media serves absolutely no positive purpose at all. This is my first day back from a 2 month layoff of UA-cam and i do feel much better. I've been on today now for a half hour. I'm going to do my best to get off as soon as i end this comment.
John Dough hahaha just jumping to the opportunity to shit on someone doing something that makes them happy. I think UA-cam is one of the better social media’s
The smart people will join whatever side men like Jocko and Andy come "off the bench" for... owww shit Brain power and Veterans sooo... a revolution would get you to Starship Troopers... go for it antifa ahhahah Break the cycle.
God made dinosaurs God killed dinosaurs God made man Man killed God Man makes dinosaurs Dinosaur eats Nancy Pelosi, jerks his neck as if someone shot him, spits her out and screams, "fuck me...what is that? Pissyfish?"
Damm i have been saying for some time now is a cycle everytime this kind of political ideologies and social separations comes around is a cycle but is moving faster than ever before because social media and the media are pushing people feelings for personal gain.
When I was a young man and I got tired of minimum wage I went to school to learn how to weld and minimum wage was never again an issue. I took control of the problem and changed my own circumstances. What helped with that was the rich guy who owned the fabricating shop that hired me and paid me a decent wage to work for him. Revolution begins from within. Don't like your situation? Invest in yourself and change it.
What if you can't legally? I'm serious life is not fair for everyone I mean that sounds good but what about the rest of us ?The ones that are fed up with the whole gd thing life isn't fair I get it but that slow rage doesn't just go too sleep...never mind I sound unhinged.
@areuarealman7269 number one, what do you mean by 'legally'? If you got yourself jammed up with the law, then that's on you. Secondly, you're right. Life IS not fair, but you have more control over it than you might think. If you think you are a victim, then that's what you'll be. Make excuses why you can't, then you won't. Whatever happens to you, good or bad, is YOUR fault. Woody Allen once said, "90% of success is just showing up." A little self-discipline and prayer goes a long way.
People are to afraid of losing their job, they could never get away with that either pay me what I'm worth don't try to threaten me cause I was looking for a job when I found this one
@@IvanMatvijenko I hope you are wrong. The very thought of having to harm one more human being is more than my conscience wants to bear. Can I do it? yes. Will I do it? If there is no other alternative. Do I want to? No. Pray for peaceful resolutions, detest war, and live with a clean conscience. It makes life so much more bearable. trust me.
@@bravo2p366 The biggest harm to a human being is taking his freedom away, human without freedom is not a human anymore, its already murder... Also war is just a cycle, its how nature keeps things balanced. Its normal for this planet with the current lvl of intellect amongst humans... of course intelligent person is able to say that war bring no good, however usually still ends up to appear of benefit to both!
@@bravo2p366 Killing unborn babies is just as much of murder as any other, somehow its first resort not last. Would have to disagree with you every situation is different! Lets not forget that officially ww2 never ended it was a truth treaty for 7 years only that expired, however now its clear now who pro life and freedom and who is against life, I would say that we finally have entered bipolar world where enemies and friends coexist and live next to each other and see each other daily. At least for me its a warning bell telling me to move out of big cities closer to small towns. Killing people... I look at it a duty that need to be carried out when evil is out of control, much rather prefer to die defending my family and country then cancer or cardiovascular disease or accident... its what a man does... defends his family! Best way to avoid war is be always ready for it! It was this way, it is this way and it will always be this way!
@@IvanMatvijenko I live in the country, because I desire to live in peace. I keep my powder dry, and my skills honed. Not because I am afraid, but because I refuse to be a victim, and because I wish to live free. I am 60 years old and lived enough for two lifetimes. I am old and wise enough to know what's worth getting riled up about, and what's not. I don't allow myself to be drawn into other men's passions or paranoia. I know the truth, and am therefore free. The truth of the matter is everyone is so quick to justify their actions whether they are correct or not. Abortion is wrong and there is no excuse for it, those responsible wil stand in judgement for it. But, neither you or I or anyone else have the right, other than to morally protest. Violence is not justified or we would be no better than BLM or Antifa. No sir, if you want violence, and that is your ilk then you and I will never agree. I swore an oath to defend the constitution 41 years ago, and I do it every day against gangsters thugs and socialists. Not with buck and ball but with words, in hopes that the former wil never be necessary.
@@kalebvera1841 right and now they're all scared (rightfully so) as If weren't trying to warm people for years but all we got is "you nut" "tin foil hat" ect ..
@@rubengdful Well, it's not their fault. It's very hard to adjust to normal life once you come back from war. Their experiences on the battlefield were so intense that they became "addicted to war". Not addicted to the conflict of nations, but addicted to the harsh lifestyle they had back then.
Colton Crain Hidden Trophy Unlocked: Florida crackhead causes mass shootings, black people blasting there brains out, fucked up skool systems! Wat a fucking joke
Very intellectual, and philosophical discussion on current issues. I find it amazing, when people who have seen extreme violence, or been forced to engage in it, generally, despise it after their "time/duty" has passed. I was in LE for 29 years and have seen more bodies, and trauma than I can recall - yes I have tried. I also deplore violence, and agree 100% with this guest - people who haven't experienced continuous violence, don't understand what it does to the average person. Great interview Joe! You really stepped up the quality for others to follow!!!
I agree that is effectively true; however, the media machines are trying to cull individuals off to the extreme edges (either right or left) whenever they can.
@@dakotas76 Majority control the army because we fund it. The moderates on both sides are the ones who pay the taxes. Not poverty level Evangelicals living in rural broke states. Not inner city gang bangers or woke liberal kids. And moderates would have no problem letting the army or police go wild on a group that steps out of line.
Fleece Johnson not even, off the top of my head didn’t he declare war 2 out of the 7 wars he was in? Everyone else was warmongering but just got hard dicked
the youtube comments are the only thing I tend to read, but they piss me off enough. I should probably get off shitstagram though. That's even *more* infuriating.
"You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end." - William Tecumseh Sherman
That used to work, back in the day, when parties had real platforms and stuck to them. But we really haven't had decently functioning parties for about 60 years, or so.
@@bnic9471 in what way? It seems that Republicans have pushed open market, business over citizens, and culturally traditional agenda as their constituency has voiced. The Democrats have pushed for inclusivness for minorities, social and environmental protection of the vulnerable, and cosmopolitanism for those alienated by traditional American culture. They have atleast done enough of these things to maintain a reliable and partisan voter base. Just because they have addendums and motives doesnt make them inherently unreliable.
@@blenderbanana Republicans actually seem to have a big diversity in what they want, some are more to the left, some like those shitty identity politics too, some like the 2nd amendment the other ones say they like it but they would take it away if they had the power too.... Democrats are all about the same thing, social healthcare, identity politics, no 2A...... Republicans are now the "cool" ones for another at least 4 years, then someone corrupt and Republican gets elected and their good name will fade away just like it did after G.W.Bush.. then the whole Rep. program moves a little more to the left to be able to compete better and the cycle will probably continue with the whole country moving to the left a bit every time.
@Todd Keno have you not been following the past 4 years buddy? The “right” does ONE thing and you all wig out 🙄🥴 to bad it wasn’t even republicans it was Antifa and BLM supporters and it was planned months ahead of time
@Todd Keno where was your outrage when 3+ BILLION dollars in damage was done in cities all across the country? Peoples businesses burned down? Car lots burned down? Homes destroyed....etc etc....where you been bud? That’s literally terrorism at its finest....700 cops injured and several dead. Several innocent by standers dead, the list goes on....grow up dude...if you can’t see the TRUE problem here, Yank your eye balls out of your head because apparently they don’t connect to your little tiny pea brain!
@Todd Keno have you seen the news? The Democratic Party TELLING people to attack and arm them selfs and incite violence? Have you had your head in the sand dude? Or are you just completely ignorant?
I am personal friends with a former Heavy Weight Champ. He said to me " Why would I lose everything I worked for to hit someone that means nothing to me"
I read something by Frank Shamrock saying that he avoided street fights. Something about the risk of being stabbed or shot. He said a street fight was much more dangerous than a MMA fight. @@LukaLegend-87
I have two children. It's no longer about me, my future, my rights, my freedom...It's about theirs. If trouble comes, let it come in my time, so they can live in peace.
Damn straight, mate. Glad my wife and I don't have kids, I am recovering from severe injuries sustained in combat, she struggles with social anxiety disorder and both of us are working on our own training, our own ability to survive and our own financial security. No point in bringing kids into the world when we are so unsure of our own future to begin with, those with kids? I know they bring much joy and meaning, but I worry so much for all of you parents.
In my 47 years of life I've learned if you have ever been in a real fight you will never be in a hurry to do it again,the same goes for shooting someone it's not pleasant even when it's necessary,all these people calling for violence don't be in a hurry to die because that's what will happen when you leave the safety of your basement
People have no idea what’s coming. I’ve worked in the medical field for 30 years- I’ve learned to compartmentalize to get the job done. The lockdown proves how bat shit crazy people went - just wait till the shooting starts.
@@TvboxFinnan Don't muddy the waters with these hate-filled lies. YOu are causing undue chaos. Detach from antisocial petty partisan politics or you will lose your soul.
@@TvboxFinnan that 17 year old is a hero and didnt go there to kill it was self defense he went there to protect peoples property. They come on my property to burn it down and they will die I dont give a shit what color their skin is. I'll even let them choose the gun they will be shot with.
Violence is eventually going to happen on both sides. You cant expect to remain unharmed when you're looting, killing people and destroying property. A revolution based on personal gain will bring nothing but problems. However, you would be a fool not to expect violence when you maintain a system built on oppression, subtle segregation and foul play, you continue to attack the livelihood of a group of people for decades and it's only a matter of time until they get fed up and resort to the natural path of violence.
Uncle Joe hit the nail on the head. I'm a 2 time combat vet loser. I have been offered good paying contracts to go back. I refuse every time. I want nothing to do with war, ever again. I am home and I love it here. That being said, I love my country. If certain groups want a war, I know a few people that will bring hell to their front door to protect their home and family. I implore you to not bring it to that point.
Great comment! I agree. And how are we going to have a Civil War? As soon as we go to arms and serious violence happens the left wing nut jobs will back down. My question is... "Do we let them off the hook or summarily execute prisoners when they just quit and go back to hiding in their basements... I believe we could end all argument by unplugging the nation for a while.... take down the grid... take out the social internet sites... shut down electronic communication.
@@dickpark9807 I’d personally say the closest thing we had to a second civil war was the US riots vs US police. Not many of the states would accept Trump’s offer for the Guard or ask for it. Police had to actively find people rioting and damaging property. Where the cops would be, the rioters would be blocks away. Anyone they did catch would be released hours or days later. We really do need to unplug, shut down social media and just go outside or something for a few months. I really think the SJW bs started as a joke that got out of hand and became a real thing. The issue is that a lot of Americans probably wouldn’t get into the military due to all these new mental health things and being overweight. I tried enlisting but I can’t because of a medical condition and it’s not a BS excuse.
The irrational nature of political extremes I'm afraid will prevent what your looking for, me as well, the right has skeletons but the 20th century should show how dangerous left wing extremism truly is, 150 million people were murdered because of left wing extremism in the 20th century. They are by nature irrational, believe me you can't ever get through to them when they have their minds made up for them. I would hope violence is not the answer, but I highly doubt it. Cancer cannot be reasoned with, no matter what polar extreme one comes from. Btw, don't call yourself a combat loser, you are here dude. Thanks
Andy speaks the honest and brutal truth about coming off the bench to protect this beautiful nation! I’m not left or right just your average Vet that can party on and off the battlefield! Some people think they have it figured out until confronted with reality! I pray daily for peace and understanding of our great nation! Hats off to Andy and Joe on this one!
100% correct. They have no idea what it’s like to have someone who just had half their head blown off by small arms fire die in their arms. Anyone who has (I have) doesn’t want anything to do with what they’re calling for. They’ll quickly realize that real bullets are nothing like the video games they’ve been playing.
@@Inertia888 you're definitely wrong about that. while i don't believe a true blue civil war will break out, go re-check the stats of the number of military individuals are living within this country. millions upon millions, and many of those are public and outspoken about their povs (in other words, how many tens of thousands _aren't_ outspoken). this kind of thing would be the literal END of the us regardless of which "side" won. think globally - the very _moment_ the world knew that such actions were being taken place on it we the people, foreign governments would be ransacking every aspect of this place. also, to "win" that kind of assymetrical warfare, it doesn't take nearly as many individuals as most would think. ever wonder how a few vietnamese villages armed with usty ak's and bamboo defeated the world's foremost super power in the world? same idea. the government and anyone in power knows this fact absolutely. it will never, ever happen the way its being hypothetically discussed in the comments here. and thank god for that. edit: i realize the vietname remark was extremely exaggerated. but the principle stands - there are people in this country with years of combat experience who are what most would label extreme in their views towards liberty and freedom. and it wouldn't even take the percentage we know about to "successfully" get an upper hand. million dollar drones and the majority of the other "tools of war" are almost meaningless in that type scenario.
Coming From Poverty In Louisiana I’ve Been In Lots Of Violet Situation Up Until I Changed Locations I Thought It Was Life But Now Ik It’s Not I Say This To Say Your Right Ppl Don’t Really Want Violence No One No’s Violence Like A Black Man In America
First of all anybody who says Vietnam won the war doesn't know that they were killed vastly more than the Americans and then the Americans just pulled out ( by the liberal vote), they didn't lose and actually killed far more of their ideological enemies than they had lost. Also if this war pops off it's not just going to be in the US, it's global. And honestly what are you talking about, you think ex military is the threat right now towards this country??? what lmao ex military doesn't push for war they generally say things that this guy is saying which is that these leftists should stop pushing for A war because it won't end well for them. @@denmun9722
I'm an old Vietnam Vet and understand your frustration, I have been frustrated for over 50 years. If we were to have a civil war, our enemies would strike us then for sure. Actually, I expect it anytime now.
The problem is when the far sides of the spectrum: ▪︎Start whittling away our Rights under the Constitution. ▪︎Tell Constitutionally protected Americans how to live their lives. Stop doing those 2 things and we're on our way to a happier society. The End.
wowalinbie I think they switched from the right to the left so they could get everyone to trust the left And then when everyone is on the left they switch to control from the left like a trap
This is sad, I see a reasonable comment with valid points about the extremes of the right and left and when I see the replies all I see is the right attacking the left. How did people stop becoming self-aware?
Everyone is a perfect parent until they become one. Everyone can take a punch like Rocky Balboa until they take one. Everyone can fight like Bruce Lee until they are in one. Everyone is a legend in their own minds. But reality is a merciless instructor and pain a flawless teacher. Peace only happens when the people who have learned how to get completely over themselves vastly outnumber the fools who think their personal fantasies are reality.
@ PappMurf’s Porch, all that is needed for evil to flourish is for good men to say nothing. Remember the words of Martin Bonhoeffer(?spelling) First they came for the Communist, and I said nothing because I was not a communist. Then that came for Jews, and I said nothing because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I was not catholic so I said nothing. Then they can for the Christians, but no one said anything for me, because no one else to say anything for me.
@ PappaMurf’s Porch, 1 good sincere punch to the face is worth 5 years of karate training. Pain is a good teacher, and experience is usually painful. I have been in enough fights growing up, and dicey situations because of my job. Every situation is different, but if you prepare yourself for any situation you can think of, the better off you will be. I understand the retired SEALS point of view. I hope he is right, but the wild card comes from extremist on every side, the people who just want to watch the world burn, for no other reason than they have chosen to act in an evil manner. Here is the thing though, If you want to take the time to figure out why someone acts the way they do, please feel free. Unfortunately I don’t always have the luxury to figure out the trigger for the motives that someone has. Sometimes, my immediate response has to be to neutralize the threat, before they can harm me, or themselves. You have to be aware of the situation and your surroundings, and know to the best of your knowledge who you are dealing with. I am a CCP holder, with firearms training, and one thing I always tell someone, as a firearm owner, you need to be honest with yourself, and know, really know, that you have the possibility to end the life of someone’s brother, sister, mother, father, uncle, cousin, friend. But they are also trying to take you away from your spouse, your children, your Mother, your Father, your Uncles, Aunts, your cousins, your friends. And you need to know if you are ready for that burden, before you ever carry a weapon.
@@fatherscarecourtsdont1389 Capital liberation? Great example of how divided we are. That shit was angry white folks getting tricked into insurrection by a leader who now accepts no responsibility. Congress members fearing for their lives shouldn’t be perceived as a positive.
Denis Crisp, you nailed it sir and the corruption is on both sides of the Blue and Red Aisle is nothing but a game to these oligarchs who control the red and blue pawns to keep people divided. Division is nothing but a big win on top. Orwellian times!
@@temsedgwick9494 your synopsis is pretty much MSNBC talking points. Corruption is getting a pass now that the DNC is back in power. We had a president who was under attack every day from the DNC/ DEEPSTATE/ NEWSMEDIA and they attacked people like me. Tried psyopping the public and getting them to cower. Nope, we are being herded into a new reality like Chairman Mao, Stalin days as they radically redefine the USA
I am fed up with Republicans and democrats....they are both rotten at the core. I feel that no matter who is announced as winner the other party is gonna yell fraud.
I faught in iraq and Afghanistan, i know what comes with combat and don't want that here. However, just like over there, those with fanatical ideologys can not be reasoned with when they want violence. You can not have peace with someone who only wants you dead or in captivity. If civil war does come about then i will be on the frontlines. only because violence on a major scale will already exist rather I want it or not and the only way to not become an unintended casualty is if I fight. The quicker it's over the higher the chance my family will be safe. I most certainly will not fight for those that want only death, captivity, or subjugation.
I understand what your saying but what you're saying goes against everything this country is known for. If people, this country truly didn't want to see people especially those of color dead or in captivity Civil war would have never occurred, we wouldn't be in the shape were in now as a country. I agree with previous posts saying the majority aren't racist otherwise slavery would have never come to an end. But the minority of the majority are very vocal and unchecked within from the majority.
Bill, I am with you. It is becoming clear that a political solution is unattainable because one side has gone off the deep end. They are unreasonable and unyielding and they seek power by any means. It is good vs evil. I saw many people wearing 0bama shirts and other things during his presidency, and I respected the 1st Amendment rights of those who chose to wear 0bama gear. I dislike 0bama with the intensity of a thousand suns, but I accepted the fact that he got elected twice. Now, people wearing MAGA hats are subjected to ridicule and even violence. They have not gotten over the fact Trump won and the complicit media continues to make things worse. Keep your powder dry.
@@Darwinist1 The fact that you find it difficult to understand why the inception to Trump is frosty compared to Obama warm welcome is puzzling. Jk it's not puzzling. You sound like an idiot. Trump is and has been vile and has spoken ill about a number of different people. Obama didn't do things like that. Hate the policy that's fine but don't act stupid to the facts of why. For the record I voted for Trump by his words and actions he is a piece of shit just hoping I get the 1 thing I voted him in for. Carry on
@@melongstrike Obama did speak ill of his political foes. He just sounded better doing it. Nor did he have nearly every news channel and evening tv show slamming him for it. Obama understood politics and was a statesman. Trump is none of those things. Realistically Trump's politics is a degree off from Bill Clinton. But the DNC is no longer there. The anger comes from the divide and loss of 1st principles that the country was founded on.
I got back to the States after 11 years and could not believe what I was seeing. There are enough battles in life that we certainly don’t need to fight our neighbors.
Is it not obvious why the framers put Speech first and then Arms..? This is when the arms are supposed to come into play, when speech has failed us... 🇺🇸
Had we taken Pelosi and company out of the picture I do not believe the Chinese would have used a biological weapon on us.... We failed to preserve our nation. And our enemies got confident enough in our failures to use a biological weapon on the globe. Now we are at a new milestone. And our processes are too gummed up targeting our own people that the enemy is letting us destroy our own country... they are already talking about bringing foreign "peacekeepers" on our soil..? How about this message to the unappreciative world? "If as an Allie you line up to defend this fraudulent administration when we finally decide to take it all back. You will be counted as an enemy of peace and as soon as we sweep this mess here up. We will be coming for you next!
Hrs seen first hand that war is where the poor go to die for the rich and their kids. Deep down he's not proud of himself. He knows he didn't fight for a righteous cause.
yando hillman andy stumpf was in seal team 6 . The c is cause he got shot and left devgru had he finished his service in devgru he would grade it higher.
Whew! this discussion took place 18 months ago. They were appalled at how bad things were and wondering how it could possibly get worse. Wonder what they think now?
How about now ? The USA is a dangerous place to be now ! If trump successfully flip's the votes , he becomes a dictator ! And the country will destroy itself from within ..Stay safe
@@joepike9703 "If Trump successfully flips the votes, he becomes a dictator". Are you serious with that statement? Trump isn't looking to "flip the votes". He/we Americans want an accurate, legitimate, and fair election. This election was a fraud. It's like something out of a third world country!!
I'd love to see this exact conversation with these two men today. Same topic but now considering what the country has been through in the past 2 years.
weak men like them, are the reason we are here today too afraid of dealing with the real shit, when its at home it was about time then its past time now
I'm a Veteran with PTSD. When I started smoking weed, everything changed. My outlook on life, my additude towards other people and my additude towards myself and my own issues. I'm no longer a "ticking time bomb". Weed did that for me. Say what u want about it, but it does help. Keep up the great work Joe. Love u brother
@@fatherscarecourtsdont1389 weed makes you calmer and able to handle situations better. It doesn't change who you are. At least for me and the people I know are like that. I'm sure there's people that just become totally worthless when they smoke
I’ve seen so many articles that say weed is just a bad way to cope with your problems. Well I disagree because weed opened the door for me to be in a better emotion head space and helped me tackle my problems with less anxiety.
Thank you for your service sir. I smoke weed too, have for many years after high school and it helped me call tf down. It’s also really good for post workout after I’ve used a tree like a punching bag 😂
There's always one guy that's gotta try and change the minds of the masses by spouting judgment and their close-minded OPINIONS. You see me trying to change the minds of people who drink Alcohol? Nope. Even tho 5.2 million people die every year from alcohol-related injuries. 20,000 people die every year from Pharmaceuticals. 0 people have died from Marijuana....STILL....so yeah, ill have a great time "smokin my dope" everyday lol, u tool
The Sith were right in philosophy but wrong in their execution, and the Jedi were the opposite. Balance is an equal number of dark and light, which is why Dark Jedi existed.
It's a matter of self-preservation. Every human instinct is to protect his family from threat. Americans are living on desperate times. We are living so comfortably. Too much freedom that some became entitle. What happen to personal responsibility and personal accountability???
I don't want violence. I never would want violence and my beliefs call for non violence... BUT if someone claiming some sort of authority over me and invade my property to try and take my property that's different. My right to free speech and self defense is non negotiable and not up for a vote. Liberty is worth fighting and possibly dying for.
Hey Ken don't be naive. This country is built on violence. We spend so much on the military that surpasses every other country. Gun violence is everywhere. Time to send people to Jesus!
@@kcheznyc This country may have been built on violence, but it's existed in relative peace for many years. The Constitution and Bill of Rights made that possible. And gun violence is NOT everywhere in America. The way to stop gun violence is to enforce existing laws, it's just that simple. Gun violence exists where pain and desperation exists. If social justice warriors were truly interested in social justice, they would assist in the eradication of violence in America- instead of trying to create it.
@@kcheznyc Matthew 15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch. Ezekiel 22:12 In thee have they taken gifts to shed blood; thou hast taken usury and increase, and thou hast greedily gained of thy neighbours by extortion, and hast forgotten me, saith the Lord GOD. Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Sadly, today's politicians know that few in public schools have read Huxley's Brave New World so few know what SOMA is. But the politicians do. And they maneuvered the public into vying for the legalization of some drugs for recreational use because they know that people who are high are controllable.
@Gary your part of the problem. Ok wait hang on. Ignore what i said. Does liberal mean far left or just left in general. Because if it means left in general you are literally doing exactly to the left what joe said the left was doing to the right. You sit here and listen but dont understand anything and then immediatly accept the "us or them" mentality thats the problem.
Bacons Strip The Only chicken Shit Cowards Are Democrats And Lying Peoples Like You ! What is it like Knowing That in your Heart you Know that You Are a Chicken Shit Coward That Stabs His Country in the Back Every Chance he Gets ? President Trump is One Of The Best If Not The Best Presidents America has Ever Had ! Run along home and hide in your Parents House because you are To lazy to get a job and can’t get a place of your own ! What A Piece Of Crap You Are ! Another Ball Less Wonder Who’s Parents didn’t whip your ass when you needed it !
Im conservative and im none of those negative connotations and I keep an open mind and listen and try to understand all points of view to reach better common ground.
Joshua Frohm Thats refreshing to hear! I lean more liberal personally, but I love meeting people with different opinions that have an open mind. Keep that mindset! It's important to understand each other, especially when we don't agree. :)
I'm a centrist liberal. I liked McCain and I like Romney. I don't understand the far left like I don't understand the far right. When you stay to the center, you can have a discussion and be friends.
@Virtual Window because real men spent their days anonymously telling random strangers on the internet that they're snowflakes. Truly the pinnacle of masculinity.
@@twan6200 That is not masculinity, that is being a douchebag. Masculinity is not some inherently toxic concept, the problem is when these Alpha Male turds warp what masculinity is
The average person does not know real violence. That is why were destined for war soon, civil or otherwise. Too many are ready for it, and few today know its horrors.
@@justanotherguy6174 Have you ever considered that they do know the horrors and risks. Have you ever considered that life is getting so bad that people no longer care if they live or die? Thats just how much the modern world has psychologically fucked us.
@Logan Waltz Lol. Governments rule over people without their consent. That's called oppression. Your argument is blatantly contradictory. Anarchy, respecting voluntary association and the natural rights of each individual, is the only legitimate and moral lifestyle. Anarchy doesn't mean no rules, it literally means no rulers. Governments are the gangs. And anarchy can't be implemented, it is apolitical and should not be forced. And those who do force their will upon others (any and all statists) are the thugs, along with their governments, police forces, militaries, and courts. Statism is the problem. It is the tyranny. Anarchy doesn't guarantee you safety, but statism does guarantee you oppression. Trading in freedom for security eventually gets you neither.
If you people knew how to vote and actually hold politicians accountable without having a CNN/Fox News headline tell you to do so, we wouldnt be having this problem right now.
@Supernaturally American right, chances are you are one of the Americans that dont vote in the primaries or for local government elections. dont get upset that elections have devolved into a popularity contest. We the people are to blame, plain and simple. It takes a population of idiots to ruin a democracy.
Yers, we just had our Kent State. People are very foolish. They do not understand what this world will be like if the USA would sink into a civil war. This country would have at least 2 other world powers inside our borders fighting for control. It would not end with The USA controlling its own outcome.
@@tonymars1093 do you think the Nato defence pact would extend to fit the situation? I mean they let Greece and turkey go at each other. And if they do, would the foreign power interfering be seen as an act of war?
Real Soldiers pray for peace, for they know the true horrors of war.
That was deep. Not joking.
i laugh when i see leftest women wanting to go toe to toe with men.. its painfully ironic they have never been in a real combat situation and wouldn't be able to hack it in a life or death scenario, neither could i but then again if i was ever in a war id be a cowardly marksman
Not even what's been happening, and if I have to clean up the puke of a fucked up kid one more time, the people in charge won't have to worry about an alien enemy, anymore.
Real soldiers also pray for war, because they don’t want to waste their years of training. It’s a situation... almost all soldier’s autobiographies explain this to some extent.
IronskullGM, good play. Make sure they think you are afraid, so never let them know. I forgot about that one for a moment. Should I delete it?
Too many Americans focused on being left or right, not enough focused on being a good person!
Interesting and zen about left and right.
Hard to be a good person when you're attacked for a hat.
@S H people wearing MAGA hats for one
It’s a nice thought, but identity politics are going to be the death of democracy.
B LMAO yeah man historically people have been attacked for way less than that, and they managed to still be good people. You being a conservative, you should understand inflated statistics and know that it is an extreme minority of people who get attacked for wearing MAGA hats, lets be real
Social media is DEFINITELY part of the problem. A large part.
Agreed.
The technology that our past generations hoped would change the world for the best has backfired and is wasted when we could use this information and communication to better everything. I’m not a hippy but I’m so sick and tired of most humans I come across. Everyone is so self obsessed with themselves and worried about being stuck in the rat race to make money and acquire new shit that we don’t need.
A lot of people spout off stuff on social media saying things to people they would never say to someone if they had to look them in the eye.
Social media only highlight problem already present in the human condition. Meditate, develop one’s mindful awareness, and apply that awareness into your life and you will have a better relationship with social media if you set that as an intention.
@@onemindfulathlete6884yes
Just remember, sometimes the fight you were looking for isn't exactly the fight you get.
That’s so true
Well said
There is a difference between knowing how to use a sword and when to use a sword.
Colton Crain unfortunately there is zero honor in war because we don’t use swords anymore, we have pussy noodles now.
@@jameswinchester5423 There is honor if those fighting die honorably.
F T no. There is no honor in modern war. Name me one war in the past 50 years that has been waged that has been about honor and not paying the pockets of the military industrial complex. Not Iraq Not Afghanistan and damn sure not Vietnam. War is fought and died by young men who don’t even know why they are there. But then again you are a joe Rogan fans you you probably drank the cool aid of “we are the best in the world, everything we do is right. Joes fans are some of the most ignorant on the planet.
@@jameswinchester5423 and F T i can kind of agree with both of you. Yes, with the weaponry we have now there isn't honor in modern combat. You can however still die with honor so long as you are fighting for is just.
@@jameswinchester5423 So if you go back and look at my comment what I said was "There is honor if those fighting die honorably". Soldiers don't start wars nor do they pick where to go, that's part of the sacrifice they make. A soldier doesn't get the luxury of choice he gets the privilege of service. The way he conducts himself in war is a reflection of the country as a whole, his family, and his morals. That is all I meant.
I don't buy into American exceptionalism at all, you should try not to make blanket statements about groups of people based on nothing but your feels. You come off as ignorant.
“War is hell” and that’s what the winners said...
El Sea did you know every shot to a different part of the body has a different smell rotten smell
...and that's the best thing to be said about it
@@TheBagwell269 well, there is the physical peace the winners friends have
El sea no one wins.
I grew up in actual war, my father fought in it. We won our freedom. It was worth it. Don't throw your freedom away
Malcolm X once said that people who call for "revolution" wouldn't whisper the word if they truly understood, in the entirety, exactly what they were asking for...
Amen
@tlessmo Russian Revolution was not military, it became military. Read a bit my dude. And Antifa are not revolutionaries, they are a disorganised group of anti-fascists who exist in other countries(where they are legitimately violent and people are scared of them like in Greece), people like American antifa are always the people before revolutionaries.
@@theblackestvoid true
@@Dan0TheMano the federal government would shut it down and enforce federal law. State guard could fight and other state militia groups, but they don't have the resources to fight the federal government. So I think it would get squashed quickly if any state tried that
“You have all the gear but you don’t practice with it”. And “if I have to get involved it’ll get pretty ugly pretty fast”. A person with common sense would react like this “I am not gonna show up at this guys door step, it will most likely not end in my favor”. A person that is affiliated with Antifa or radical BLM would react like this “Let’s go protest at this guys house and demand he give us all his stuff and destroy his property if he doesn’t”. How do you think the story ends in both scenarios?
In most cases no one wins in a street fight. It really comes down to who loses less. Every fight I’ve ever been in has caused me some pain.
5 ft 9 230 lb I lived with the toughest men commercial fisherman we're the tough guys went always a big bully my name is David and I slayed three Giants the first was a ex-marine 1982 Golden gloves champion named Frosty he wouldn't quit after being choked out twice I grabbed him by his biker beard after the third submission and tossed him into a cactus garden when he came back to the boat the next day his face was black and blue up to his hairline we shook hands and went out drinking together and I never boasted about it
The only time I ever lost a fight what's in my hometown bar where are 325 lb weightlifter tried to sucker me he said it was the hardest he ever hit someone the look on his face before I put him and six other bouncers to sleep was pretty hilarious got out the door before they got me down then the cops took over I ended up with seven assaulting a bouncer charges and 13 assaulting an officer charges unbelievable true luckily I was in the bar with the police of chiefs sons and knew him well all charges were dropped
You lose anyway only not fighting is a win the other two is prison time or hospital and loosing 3 days of pay and having a blackeye is only cool If you are a real fighter
I served in Iraq and one thing I took away from it that and will always be with me was seeing first hand what happens when a country and/or society collapse. Trust me, I don't care what political persuasion you are, what religion you are, you do not want to be in a country during a war.
It really sickens me , reading these comments where people are almost frothing at the mouth for the chance to murder their fellow Americans. Their neighbors and friends ...all over rather simple differences of opinion and philosophy.
It's not just lefty socialist types though, there were a scary amount of comments right before voting day from conservatives saying "If Hillary wins, we need to revolt" Because they were convinced she was cheating or Trump was going to lose because of that grab her by the pussy stuff or whatever. If Hilary had won it'd be a lot of the conservatives still crying for civil war now 100%. Both sides are full of people who are convinced the other side are demons(literally with some of these religious conspiracy nuts)
@@fieldy409 oh its a two way street for sure but the far left and far right don't have the ability to understand that, blinders are making them think they are right and they can't see things from the other point of view. You need to be able to see things from more than just your point of view.
@@hairtrigger8317 And the adversarial nature is ruining democracies across the world, everywhere its left vs right. Reality is all people and parties are a mixture of left and right depending on what issue you ask them about.
Plus at the end of the day we agree on more things than we disagree on, all the stuff we don't argue on outweighs the key issues we do agree on. But everyone just blocks things that the other side put forth not because it isn't a good idea but just because its their idea. It's sad.
And a civil war in America would leave America never as strong again, possibly broken into seperate states or shrunk as other countries did opportunistic landgrabs, and then China would be the number 1 superpower which is scary.
@@fieldy409 But Hillary did cheat and still lost, She was literally given debate questions before hand to have an upper hand on Trump.
A military dude doesn't want conflict like how a professional fighter doesn't want a street fight, best take their advice.
@@wbbils7052 #trollalert
@@wbbils7052 wat r u fukin gey m8.
Most underrated comment in the thread. This is very true.
navy seals want to go shoot terrorists they foam at the mouth at the idea that’s a stupid opinion of you
@@BurnedSpace another troll?
"War is sweet to those who have not experienced it.
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Desiderius Erasmus
Documentaries Damn somebody has read TOLKIEN ,good for you.
One of the truest quotes I wish everyone knew, so many war mongers it’s unbelievable but they have no experience of i so they want it, they want what will destroy them it’s incredible
Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.
There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter. -Ernest Hemingway
(Not in agreement with this quote btw)
Everybody gangsta until Marshall law is implemented.
Nobody with an ounce of sanity should want to see a civil war. I grew up in an extremely violent background and the first thing I wanted to do was get away from it as soon as I could. Most people can't understand how traumatizing it is and it never completely leaves you.
So having pedos indoctrinate and rape children is better than civil war? Tell that to parents.
I understand that but let me ask you this if they came for you are you going to make sure you defend yourself? What if they come for others? I'm not talking the government BTW I am talking about these idiots out there. Look at Portland today. I know someone who is chased down the street there because someone thought they saw him with the Proud Boys.
Looking at the USA from abroad. I think that Trump would be perfectly willing to see a civil war if it got him what he wanted. Particularly if it kept him out of prison.
Shut up, there's so many people have gone through what you've gone through and they'll have different perspectives
@@tylerharris4392 An extremely myopic statement.
'War is sweet to those who have no experience of it,
but the experienced man trembles exceedingly at heart on its approach.'
Cool story, some actually wants it to come and are happy when it strikes.
So that quote is obviously not for all.
I dont think anyone said this.
@@whiskyweasal89 en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Pindar
@@waldo2543 Did I say I wanted war or? lol
But those who have experienced it knows that at times it is needed. We don’t welcome it but we damned sure fight it when left with no reasonable choice.
"Only the dead have seen the end of war" - Plato
My favorite quote of all time. If the day does not require an AK it is good.
Dick Fageroni “I enjoy licking woman’s booty holes”
-Me
Dick Fageroni "I'm so deep because I put a quote on a video that talks about human and social issues"
So i guess playdough never saw WAR😐
Good thread lol
"I give my military career a C average"
Dude was in Seal Team 6. Talk about modest.
Majority of the special operations people I have met are incredibly humble.
Yeah man. Wow.
"C" because he was never in a legitimate war. WWII was the last legitimate war US soldiers were involved in, Vietnam & Korea are debatable. All US wars since then were only to combat an enemy previously receiving US tax payer dollars in aid (CIA funding: Taliban/Osama bin Laden/Al-Qaeda(CIA Operation Cyclone), Iran(Iran-Contra Affair), Iraq(1980s CIA funding/aid to build chemical weapons)), or directly created by US foreign policy (ISI/ISIS=2003 US Invasion of Iraq/Operation Cyclone). Meanwhile on Sept 11, 2001, the US allowed the largest terrorist attack in world history--even worse, it was on US soil.
P D Do you even operate, bro?
@@pd5826 I believe blowing open doors and hunting bad guys that might detonate themselves at any moment is "legitimate combat" what a jack ass you are
Thank you Joe Rogan and Andy Stumpf for your comments on this subject. In my entire life, I have never been as concerned about our country as I am today. I wish our history of the founding of our country and the horror of the wars our men and women engaged in over even the last 70 years was taught in high school history. It might bring a thread of sanity in this crazy social environment. I really appreciate your perspectives. Mr. Rogan, it is clear why you are outperforming so many of the cable channels. As you noted, a man that knows about violence will steer away from that path.
Gods honest truth.ive always fought thru saying nothing to it but to live thru it..but untill u do,peoe have no idea what it's all about at the moment to the first bullet wizzes. If I never had to fire a shot again ide die a happy man.but history tells us all,unless selfless men step forward n stand for freedom n what's rite.we will continue to sprial into the abiss of destruction.only the dead have seen the end of war............
You can’t reason with someone who is totally closed off to debate. Wise words to remember “Never try to explain yourself to someone who is committed to misunderstanding you”
Tina, I can see that you have a clear head and understand perfectly, who and what you are dealing with. Anyone else who believe otherwise, is a fool.
@@hughmungus370 You shouldn’t read things into a persons comment that are blatantly false. Your perception of my comment is way off. I don’t believe in having my constitutional rights violated. My rights don’t end where another person’s fear begins. I’m anti mask, anti lockdown and I WILL Not get the vaccine. You are a prime example of my comment. Never assume. If you aren’t sure what I meant...just ask 🙄
Yes the Bible tells us that to argue with a fool'foolish person is an exercise in futility. Proverbs 26:4, Proverbs 29:9, Proverbs 18:2 , Proverbs 15:2, Proverbs 20:3 and Proverbs 18:6 . All taken from the ESV Bible
Yeah those dumb democrats.
Remove yourself from the debate. They need to get it out of there system. They wont listen to reason. 2 sides bent on destruction will settle for nothing less. Division and control destroys the controling and the divisive.
People calling for violence have never experienced violence.pray for peace.
Two things that never seem to last long: violence and peace.
Pray for peace prepare for war
I've experienced violence. Quite a bit. Still call for it. Dumbest quote of all time
Ted Kazcynkski If you call for violence you're a Damned rabid dog. You'd bring it on your women&kids??...because civilians don't escape its spillover.
people who would rather die on their knees pleading than fighting have no courage and no beliefs.
that said, you also shouldn't be hasty to get into a fight, it should be the last resort....but to say that you should never rise and fight is weak and devoid of belief and principle.
Couldnt think of a more appropriate clip than this one today.
True dat
Exactly
Aged well. Confirm.
Honestly
Agreed!
God Bless You ALL.
❤
Most people calling for violence wouldn’t survive the first thirty seconds.
Everyone wants to get in a gun fight, until they're IN A GUN FIGHT
Gun fights suck...
I agree ..all these badasses and no clue..
I don't want to get into a gunfight. I'll either die, be badly hurt, or do the same to someone else. Absolute last resort.
It's one of those things that suck ass in the moment. But the next day kinda fun. So my pet cat tells me.
@@Hackattack7 I'd rather not find out.
I am from Croatia. I have spent '91-'95 in war in my country in Special Unit for Recon and Diversion. I will tell you this: YOU DON'T WANT WAR IN YOUR COUNTRY. I hope it will never happened to you, but if it happens, believe me, you will all agree with my capslocked part if you do not agree now. When war is in your country, it is not happening just to you as a fighter, it is happening to everybody and this part of "war in your country" is harder than fight itself.
Pray for your good health man. That must have been a fucking nightmare.
The abstraction of the internet has allowed people to just conflate things like violence and war with the media representation of violence and war.
Goddamn, 90s Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia. You know more than anyone
Thank you, Sonya, and welcome to the Divided States of America, now ruled by a mafioso crime boss. You would have liked it in the late 60s and early 70s, but those days is gone and won't be coming back anytime soon. But we're glad you're here. I grew up in Pittsburgh, PA and knew a lot of Croatian families there, very warm and loving people...like Americans once were.
Thanks man, really appreciated. It was crazy nightmare, you are right. One day I was that stoner kid, another I was crazy fighter, literally, i was 19 when I volunteered to go and fight, day after I finished highschool. I saw shits ppl can not imagine, worst part it was mostly done by ppl which were friends just few months ago. I am retired because of PTSD, but I am doing well now. Thanks to wonderful wife mostly. And my dog. Yep, this part of world was always fucked up. 1st WW started here, during 2nd all sides went berserk and done all kind of shits, then in '90s again. And still is boiling in Bosnia. We are fuckin crazy or cursed.
@Rod Frantz I am watching what is happening there, and I am sorry for that. Also I know that sometimes there is no option but war. Shit, I was in that situation, of course I know. But keep that option as a last one. Domestic war fucks up many generations, living and the ones not born yet. It is not like you can go do tour or two and come back in safety. There is no safety for anyone for many years. Economics is broken, all is going to hell. And at the end, after all that shit you see that only result is that old "fat rich cats" are dead, but new ones are already even "fatter and richer".
@@sonjabrajkina3995 Again man, I only hope the best for you. Suffering what you suffered takes a great deal of mental fortitude. I'm glad you have support that you can depend on and don't have to face that source of conflict ever again.
One year later: well that escalated quickly
im a conspiracy theorist and we warned abiut this for years. we knew this was coming and yall still call us crazy
No it didn’t. I understand the post is semi-humorous, but the reality is this has been building and taking incremental steps for years. The lift got bolder and bolder with the outright violence. A couple weeks ago, there was a literal battle in a park between the two sides using shields, batons and bear mace. This past weekend, a guy with a BLM tattoo literally murdered a man on the street in front of his friend because they are going to vote for two different people. It’s taking years to get here, but make no mistake… It’s HERE. Now that the shooting has started, it’s just a matter of time before more people in the crowd are armed on both sides and the number of casualties per incident goes up.
@@evergray5063 proof?
TheGeneral proof of what? The 2 things I listed are on video and on UA-cam. “It’s a matter of time” is an opinion that is neither provable nor disprovable... so....
Yeah I was gonna say “that didn’t age well.”
Matt Walsh said it best, "if we can't agree on something as simple as what a woman is , how are we gonna agree on anything?"
THAT is a great point. When reality isn't and facts aren't anymore, there is no avoiding the eventuality of war. It may not come today or tomorrow but it will be in my lifetime. I know that to be a fact. 100%
Exactly....
Because the only people who talk about crap like that is you far right dumbasses
If you hds a mother, whats the confusion. Trying to debate someones definition on womanhood does not concern me in any way, why should it.
@@rockytoptom because some one has a different definition of a woman, that doesn't match you mom, really?
This clip is from 2019, but it still holds true today in 2020. You could almost mistake it for being posted a week ago.
Some Carlins bits from 70's seem super relative even today. Maybe the worlds changed but people havent. or something idk
Or today
AND STILL TODAY IN 2021 ALMOST 2022 AND WILL ALWAYZ BE TRUE!
2021 here, guess what, its worse.
@@andrewreil3938 Sadly, not worse than 2022. Grab your ammo and popcorn
im from Somalia the civil war had devastated us completely he know what hes talking about
Islamists ?
@@chopperking007 No, a communist military dictatorship took over. He called together the heads of various clans to discuss their discontentment. He blew them up instead. He was ousted. Power vacuum yada yada
@@chopperking007 my friend, it's not religion that starts the war, it's people who twist the wording of the texts and force people into fighting for a false holy war. Islam strictly prohibits violence, it's in the texts and you can search then up yourself.
You should move to Minnesota and vote Democrat ;-)
@@GrantfromEarth why the fuck would he vote for those socialists? Democrats are domestic enemies. They want to infringe upon our rights and force dependency on the govt.
Who's here right before the 2020 civil war
Between who exactly?
@@cstoddard408 Seriously? Let me provide you with THE answer: Left vs. Right. George Soros and Bill Gates have $$$BILLIONS invested in their social engineering experiment and Antifa to stoke the fires. Do you think the BLM movement is causing all of the destructive rioting? No! They're not! It's the antagonists (Antifa) who are instigating the violence...and they're just getting warmed up. Soros is "All In" for crippling America.
@@cstoddard408 right wing and left wing extremists. They WANT a civil war. Hopefully they'll obliterate each other only, so that the rest of us normal people can continue living our lives.
We’ll be damn lucky if this thing doesn’t pop off after the November election.
CStoddard against Democrats
I’m 53 years old and this country and world is at its worst ever in my whole entire life and if it keeps going the way it is there’s NOOO doubt that Civil War is coming it’s coming fast !!!
Same age, I agree entirely. As soon as the Conservatives and pro-Constitutionalists have been pushed too far, it's going to be over very very quickly and at a cost the American population cannot deal with.
I think it can turn into a maelstorm of reasons and not only the US has become mad. It's just that among the western ones, has it prob. the most but I'm affraid everyone will turn bananas. Fox and any News or media should have a warning letter for Your health and safety. People are exposed to the most advanced propagand in history and there's no direction to find sanity or truth.
I've been seeing this since covid. Either that or we won't do anything. Cause as a country we still have a good enought life.
Leading to full human extinction!
Where are you from Richard Ernst?
I love how the kids that get crippling anxiety from job interviews are the ones that think they want blood in the streets.
@Greysen Gagne sometimes ya gotta
Exactly! It's best to ignore these people bc they are the ones living in mommies basement playing COD, trying to be keyboard warriors that have no lives, stirring the pot! People need to learn how to tune these fuckers out!
Liberals in a nutshell
Now THAT’S hilarious!!!
Job interviews? Shit they get panic attacks from the idea of having to call someone to order a pizza.
My life has been so much better since I got off social media.
It just did nothing but piss me off.
I'm happier now, I recommend the same to you.
The irony is strong with this one
UA-cam is social media.. but I get your point of view.
Amen to that!
I agree with you, social media serves absolutely no positive purpose at all. This is my first day back from a 2 month layoff of UA-cam and i do feel much better. I've been on today now for a half hour. I'm going to do my best to get off as soon as i end this comment.
same
I stopped using social media a couple years ago. Now I just gotta stop spending so much time on UA-cam lol
You and me both buddy
If youre on UA-cam you're engaged with social media. ...lol... It was a cute thought though. 🤓
I only watch UA-cam.
John Dough hahaha just jumping to the opportunity to shit on someone doing something that makes them happy. I think UA-cam is one of the better social media’s
@@BreadWhite-kt3qk I was simply stating the facts. Attacking stupid people is fun though.
Civil War 2: All 6 Hours Of It
Hard Times Make Strong Men
Strong Men Make Good Times
Good Times Make Weak Men
Weak Men Make Hard Times
The smart people will join whatever side men like Jocko and Andy come "off the bench" for... owww shit
Brain power and Veterans sooo... a revolution would get you to Starship Troopers... go for it antifa ahhahah Break the cycle.
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Right before they descended into endless civil wars.
God made dinosaurs
God killed dinosaurs
God made man
Man killed God
Man makes dinosaurs
Dinosaur eats Nancy Pelosi, jerks his neck as if someone shot him, spits her out and screams, "fuck me...what is that? Pissyfish?"
Damm i have been saying for some time now is a cycle everytime this kind of political ideologies and social separations comes around is a cycle but is moving faster than ever before because social media and the media are pushing people feelings for personal gain.
When I was a young man and I got tired of minimum wage I went to school to learn how to weld and minimum wage was never again an issue. I took control of the problem and changed my own circumstances. What helped with that was the rich guy who owned the fabricating shop that hired me and paid me a decent wage to work for him. Revolution begins from within. Don't like your situation? Invest in yourself and change it.
That sounds like too much work for most people
What if you can't legally? I'm serious life is not fair for everyone I mean that sounds good but what about the rest of us ?The ones that are fed up with the whole gd thing life isn't fair I get it but that slow rage doesn't just go too sleep...never mind I sound unhinged.
@areuarealman7269 number one, what do you mean by 'legally'? If you got yourself jammed up with the law, then that's on you. Secondly, you're right. Life IS not fair, but you have more control over it than you might think. If you think you are a victim, then that's what you'll be. Make excuses why you can't, then you won't. Whatever happens to you, good or bad, is YOUR fault. Woody Allen once said, "90% of success is just showing up." A little self-discipline and prayer goes a long way.
@@ricardoh87 That statement right there is the root cause of the problem. It's your mind set, plain and simple.
People are to afraid of losing their job, they could never get away with that either pay me what I'm worth don't try to threaten me cause I was looking for a job when I found this one
People calling for war, have never wiped their brother's brain matter off their face. Pray for peace..... It's so much better.
@@IvanMatvijenko I hope you are wrong. The very thought of having to harm one more human being is more than my conscience wants to bear. Can I do it? yes. Will I do it? If there is no other alternative. Do I want to? No.
Pray for peaceful resolutions, detest war, and live with a clean conscience. It makes life so much more bearable. trust me.
@@bravo2p366 The biggest harm to a human being is taking his freedom away, human without freedom is not a human anymore, its already murder... Also war is just a cycle, its how nature keeps things balanced. Its normal for this planet with the current lvl of intellect amongst humans... of course intelligent person is able to say that war bring no good, however usually still ends up to appear of benefit to both!
@@IvanMatvijenko I'm sure you are right, but lets agree violence should be the last resort in any disagreement.
@@bravo2p366 Killing unborn babies is just as much of murder as any other, somehow its first resort not last. Would have to disagree with you every situation is different! Lets not forget that officially ww2 never ended it was a truth treaty for 7 years only that expired, however now its clear now who pro life and freedom and who is against life, I would say that we finally have entered bipolar world where enemies and friends coexist and live next to each other and see each other daily. At least for me its a warning bell telling me to move out of big cities closer to small towns. Killing people... I look at it a duty that need to be carried out when evil is out of control, much rather prefer to die defending my family and country then cancer or cardiovascular disease or accident... its what a man does... defends his family! Best way to avoid war is be always ready for it! It was this way, it is this way and it will always be this way!
@@IvanMatvijenko I live in the country, because I desire to live in peace. I keep my powder dry, and my skills honed. Not because I am afraid, but because I refuse to be a victim, and because I wish to live free. I am 60 years old and lived enough for two lifetimes. I am old and wise enough to know what's worth getting riled up about, and what's not. I don't allow myself to be drawn into other men's passions or paranoia. I know the truth, and am therefore free. The truth of the matter is everyone is so quick to justify their actions whether they are correct or not. Abortion is wrong and there is no excuse for it, those responsible wil stand in judgement for it. But, neither you or I or anyone else have the right, other than to morally protest. Violence is not justified or we would be no better than BLM or Antifa. No sir, if you want violence, and that is your ilk then you and I will never agree.
I swore an oath to defend the constitution 41 years ago, and I do it every day against gangsters thugs and socialists. Not with buck and ball but with words, in hopes that the former wil never be necessary.
We can thank the Ivy League and all the so-called deconstructionists who are to,ignorant to understand how good they have it.
This aged well
They thought it was bad 16 months ago? Those were the good old days!
No shit
im a conspiracy theorsist and we been taking about this coming for years, but we are crazy and he is right
@@kalebvera1841 right and now they're all scared (rightfully so) as If weren't trying to warm people for years but all we got is "you nut" "tin foil hat" ect ..
No kidding.
The one who hates war the most is the soldier.
@@jackoates6418 huh? how is that nonsense
@@jackoates6418 good point, you're probably right
@@jackoates6418 You have a point
Some of them are addicted to war man
@@rubengdful Well, it's not their fault. It's very hard to adjust to normal life once you come back from war. Their experiences on the battlefield were so intense that they became "addicted to war". Not addicted to the conflict of nations, but addicted to the harsh lifestyle they had back then.
*Hits a person, notification appears: “They will remember that”*
Trophy unlocked: Public Menace
Colton Crain Hidden Trophy Unlocked: Florida crackhead causes mass shootings, black people blasting there brains out, fucked up skool systems! Wat a fucking joke
Clementine will remember that
@@justinblake552 memories 😭😭😭😭😭😭pootie pie and all the other dead channels
Very intellectual, and philosophical discussion on current issues.
I find it amazing, when people who have seen extreme violence, or been forced to engage in it, generally, despise it after their "time/duty" has passed.
I was in LE for 29 years and have seen more bodies, and trauma than I can recall - yes I have tried. I also deplore violence, and agree 100% with this guest - people who haven't experienced continuous violence, don't understand what it does to the average person.
Great interview Joe! You really stepped up the quality for others to follow!!!
Funny that we’re living in a time where you can be non-binary when it comes to gender, but not politics.
Right
Good point!
There's not enough likes in the world to give this comment what it deserves..
That’s actually extremely well put.
Why is it comments with the dumbest jokes get 50k + likes but truth like this gets buried
Stop giving your kids Participation Trophies when they lose.
@James Smythe that's pretty good
@James Smythe 🤣😂 Roasted
@James Smythe that is amazing.
Dude, public schools are completely fucked. They had a huge hand in creating all this bullshit happening now.
@James Smythe No, they need to be remembered. Erasing history is straight-up fascism, the MO of every cunt who has toppled one.
I would venture to say that a majority of the country is in the middle. We just want to live our lives.
I think you’re very correct
Problem is that the majority is silent or they're silenced
I agree that is effectively true; however, the media machines are trying to cull individuals off to the extreme edges (either right or left) whenever they can.
@@dakotas76 the loud mouths always trump the restrained
@@dakotas76 Majority control the army because we fund it. The moderates on both sides are the ones who pay the taxes. Not poverty level Evangelicals living in rural broke states. Not inner city gang bangers or woke liberal kids.
And moderates would have no problem letting the army or police go wild on a group that steps out of line.
A good "selective" thanos snap would fix our problems.
Yes. But the Thanos snap isn't selective that's part of the unknown with death.
@ArthurMediaNetwork it's only selective if the user wants it to be
'If you've seen one day of war, you'd pray to never see another' - Napoleon Bonaparte
Reprogramming Mind the irony that he said that quote
Napoleon Bonaparte was a war monger
@@sshelton1433 Depends on your perspective. Others saw it as him doing what he had to.
Fleece Johnson not even, off the top of my head didn’t he declare war 2 out of the 7 wars he was in? Everyone else was warmongering but just got hard dicked
"The Bigger the LIE, the more Readily is it believed." -- Donald Trump
taking months off facebook is the best thing thats ever happened to my mental health
Cyberus Morphous never having it is the best. I am a dying breed of the non Facebook user
@@jamessteers u r a god amongst men
I couldn't agree more. I've been off Facebook for a year now and I don't miss the bs one bit.
That’s for sure. Twitter is even worse.
the youtube comments are the only thing I tend to read, but they piss me off enough. I should probably get off shitstagram though. That's even *more* infuriating.
"You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end." - William Tecumseh Sherman
It's good to watch old stuff like this. They talk about how there's no way out but here we are 4 years later...
also get rid of party names in ballots. People just blindly vote for their party knowing nothing NOTHING about the candidates.
I hate the two party system, either have three or more,or none at all
Term Limits
That used to work, back in the day, when parties had real platforms and stuck to them. But we really haven't had decently functioning parties for about 60 years, or so.
@@bnic9471 in what way? It seems that Republicans have pushed open market, business over citizens, and culturally traditional agenda as their constituency has voiced. The Democrats have pushed for inclusivness for minorities, social and environmental protection of the vulnerable, and cosmopolitanism for those alienated by traditional American culture.
They have atleast done enough of these things to maintain a reliable and partisan voter base. Just because they have addendums and motives doesnt make them inherently unreliable.
@@blenderbanana Republicans actually seem to have a big diversity in what they want, some are more to the left, some like those shitty identity politics too, some like the 2nd amendment the other ones say they like it but they would take it away if they had the power too.... Democrats are all about the same thing, social healthcare, identity politics, no 2A...... Republicans are now the "cool" ones for another at least 4 years, then someone corrupt and Republican gets elected and their good name will fade away just like it did after G.W.Bush.. then the whole Rep. program moves a little more to the left to be able to compete better and the cycle will probably continue with the whole country moving to the left a bit every time.
When the people who just want to be left alone get involved then the shit will get bad.
Hence Don’t tread on Me!
because when people that want to be left alone get involved they're at the point when they have nothing left to lose and I'm there soon
@@Dalnutt very true, hence Don’t Tread on Me
And here we are.. 1 year from this broadcast.. and closer to a civil war then ever..
@Todd Keno sure 🙄
@Todd Keno have you not been following the past 4 years buddy? The “right” does ONE thing and you all wig out 🙄🥴 to bad it wasn’t even republicans it was Antifa and BLM supporters and it was planned months ahead of time
@Todd Keno where was your outrage for all the children BLM killed in the streets in cold blood IS THAT NOT TERRORISM?
@Todd Keno where was your outrage when 3+ BILLION dollars in damage was done in cities all across the country? Peoples businesses burned down? Car lots burned down? Homes destroyed....etc etc....where you been bud? That’s literally terrorism at its finest....700 cops injured and several dead. Several innocent by standers dead, the list goes on....grow up dude...if you can’t see the TRUE problem here, Yank your eye balls out of your head because apparently they don’t connect to your little tiny pea brain!
@Todd Keno have you seen the news? The Democratic Party TELLING people to attack and arm them selfs and incite violence? Have you had your head in the sand dude? Or are you just completely ignorant?
This channel is one of the very few that expresses the gray area that should be headline news. Thank you and don't stop.
I am personal friends with a former Heavy Weight Champ. He said to me " Why would I lose everything I worked for to hit someone that means nothing to me"
Jon Jones constantly pissing dirty driving drunk but I’m supposed to believe he don’t want to hit people to risk his career 🤣 very smooth joe
I read something by Frank Shamrock saying that he avoided street fights. Something about the risk of being stabbed or shot. He said a street fight was much more dangerous than a MMA fight. @@LukaLegend-87
Cool name.
Have an independent mind, keep a well oiled moral compass, and get after it every single day😀
P R E A C H.
💯
winner
Absolutely
Don't forget the loaded gun.
I have two children. It's no longer about me, my future, my rights, my freedom...It's about theirs. If trouble comes, let it come in my time, so they can live in peace.
@@venomsucks Yes of course, so they can do the same for their little children if need be. Not sure, but I think you missed the point.
Amen
But it's their lifetime now too.
Damn straight, mate. Glad my wife and I don't have kids, I am recovering from severe injuries sustained in combat, she struggles with social anxiety disorder and both of us are working on our own training, our own ability to survive and our own financial security. No point in bringing kids into the world when we are so unsure of our own future to begin with, those with kids? I know they bring much joy and meaning, but I worry so much for all of you parents.
TheOkWoodsman boom wish I had read a little further because I said something similar. Well said sir and I couldn’t agree more.
Why is it society has no problem condemning the far right (correctly so) yet seem to shy away from condemning the far left?
In my 47 years of life I've learned if you have ever been in a real fight you will never be in a hurry to do it again,the same goes for shooting someone it's not pleasant even when it's necessary,all these people calling for violence don't be in a hurry to die because that's what will happen when you leave the safety of your basement
People have no idea what’s coming. I’ve worked in the medical field for 30 years- I’ve learned to compartmentalize to get the job done. The lockdown proves how bat shit crazy people went - just wait till the shooting starts.
You say that because you're sane. 17 yr olds bringing guns across state lines to kill black people are not sane.
@@TvboxFinnan Don't muddy the waters with these hate-filled lies. YOu are causing undue chaos. Detach from antisocial petty partisan politics or you will lose your soul.
@@TvboxFinnan that 17 year old is a hero and didnt go there to kill it was self defense he went there to protect peoples property. They come on my property to burn it down and they will die I dont give a shit what color their skin is. I'll even let them choose the gun they will be shot with.
Violence is eventually going to happen on both sides. You cant expect to remain unharmed when you're looting, killing people and destroying property. A revolution based on personal gain will bring nothing but problems. However, you would be a fool not to expect violence when you maintain a system built on oppression, subtle segregation and foul play, you continue to attack the livelihood of a group of people for decades and it's only a matter of time until they get fed up and resort to the natural path of violence.
Andy: what's the navigable route out of that
Joe: mushrooms
DMT
Well we haven't tried it so far, and it hasn't been fixed yet
There is some truth to that my friend , just read up on it.
Seemed to work for the Vietnam generation...
I can NOT believe this interview took place nearly two years ago. This could EASILY be today. Crazy.
Same
"First off, you have that on backwards" 🤣
“Keep your ammo dry and your horses watered.”
Dogman tossed my salad full mass
Shut up.
Mighty algorithm, we meet again.
Uncle Joe hit the nail on the head. I'm a 2 time combat vet loser. I have been offered good paying contracts to go back. I refuse every time. I want nothing to do with war, ever again. I am home and I love it here. That being said, I love my country. If certain groups want a war, I know a few people that will bring hell to their front door to protect their home and family. I implore you to not bring it to that point.
Great comment! I agree.
And how are we going to have a Civil War? As soon as we go to arms and serious violence happens the left wing nut jobs will back down. My question is... "Do we let them off the hook or summarily execute prisoners when they just quit and go back to hiding in their basements... I believe we could end all argument by unplugging the nation for a while.... take down the grid... take out the social internet sites... shut down electronic communication.
@@dickpark9807 I’d personally say the closest thing we had to a second civil war was the US riots vs US police. Not many of the states would accept Trump’s offer for the Guard or ask for it. Police had to actively find people rioting and damaging property. Where the cops would be, the rioters would be blocks away. Anyone they did catch would be released hours or days later. We really do need to unplug, shut down social media and just go outside or something for a few months. I really think the SJW bs started as a joke that got out of hand and became a real thing. The issue is that a lot of Americans probably wouldn’t get into the military due to all these new mental health things and being overweight. I tried enlisting but I can’t because of a medical condition and it’s not a BS excuse.
The irrational nature of political extremes I'm afraid will prevent what your looking for, me as well, the right has skeletons but the 20th century should show how dangerous left wing extremism truly is, 150 million people were murdered because of left wing extremism in the 20th century. They are by nature irrational, believe me you can't ever get through to them when they have their minds made up for them. I would hope violence is not the answer, but I highly doubt it. Cancer cannot be reasoned with, no matter what polar extreme one comes from. Btw, don't call yourself a combat loser, you are here dude. Thanks
bring it to the government.
@@ericholdsworth6611 Nothing about me makes me a hero, bro. I was just lucky enough to serve with a lot of them.
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Andy speaks the honest and brutal truth about coming off the bench to protect this beautiful nation! I’m not left or right just your average Vet that can party on and off the battlefield! Some people think they have it figured out until confronted with reality! I pray daily for peace and understanding of our great nation! Hats off to Andy and Joe on this one!
They don't want all of us old vets to get off the f****** couch
There are some places in this country where guerilla warfare is going on everyday
@@georgeclark2554 Yeah, like outside of my front window here in Southwest Detroit.
@@gummo3873 i just heard a bunch of gunshot outside my window in Mississippi
Do that respect for fight for what you believe is right and we will fight for ours
People who want combat are not combat veterans.
Makes sense, I don't think John Bolton, Mike Pompeo or Paul Wolfowitz have ever seen a day of real combat firsthand in their lives.
100% correct. They have no idea what it’s like to have someone who just had half their head blown off by small arms fire die in their arms. Anyone who has (I have) doesn’t want anything to do with what they’re calling for. They’ll quickly realize that real bullets are nothing like the video games they’ve been playing.
J P you’re a real fucking idiot aren’t you
That's not true. The men who started isis came from saddam husseins military.
@J P Surprised the stupidity of this comment didn't break the internet.
I definitely dont know what violence and combat is like, but when I hear ppl say we want a civil war or revolution, I just think "no you dont"
we can be pretty certain that the ones who are asking for these things have never had to face anything like it.
Bubbles
well at least you have your private bodyguard of cats
@@Inertia888 you're definitely wrong about that. while i don't believe a true blue civil war will break out, go re-check the stats of the number of military individuals are living within this country. millions upon millions, and many of those are public and outspoken about their povs (in other words, how many tens of thousands _aren't_ outspoken). this kind of thing would be the literal END of the us regardless of which "side" won. think globally - the very _moment_ the world knew that such actions were being taken place on it we the people, foreign governments would be ransacking every aspect of this place. also, to "win" that kind of assymetrical warfare, it doesn't take nearly as many individuals as most would think. ever wonder how a few vietnamese villages armed with usty ak's and bamboo defeated the world's foremost super power in the world? same idea.
the government and anyone in power knows this fact absolutely. it will never, ever happen the way its being hypothetically discussed in the comments here. and thank god for that.
edit: i realize the vietname remark was extremely exaggerated. but the principle stands - there are people in this country with years of combat experience who are what most would label extreme in their views towards liberty and freedom. and it wouldn't even take the percentage we know about to "successfully" get an upper hand. million dollar drones and the majority of the other "tools of war" are almost meaningless in that type scenario.
Coming From Poverty In Louisiana I’ve Been In Lots Of Violet Situation Up Until I Changed Locations I Thought It Was Life But Now Ik It’s Not I Say This To Say Your Right Ppl Don’t Really Want Violence No One No’s Violence Like A Black Man In America
First of all anybody who says Vietnam won the war doesn't know that they were killed vastly more than the Americans and then the Americans just pulled out ( by the liberal vote), they didn't lose and actually killed far more of their ideological enemies than they had lost. Also if this war pops off it's not just going to be in the US, it's global. And honestly what are you talking about, you think ex military is the threat right now towards this country??? what lmao ex military doesn't push for war they generally say things that this guy is saying which is that these leftists should stop pushing for A war because it won't end well for them. @@denmun9722
I'm an old Vietnam Vet and understand your frustration, I have been frustrated for over 50 years. If we were to have a civil war, our enemies would strike us then for sure. Actually, I expect it anytime now.
The problem is when the far sides of the spectrum:
▪︎Start whittling away our Rights under the Constitution.
▪︎Tell Constitutionally protected Americans how to live their lives.
Stop doing those 2 things and we're on our way to a happier society.
The End.
Your user name does not suit you because those are words of wisdom lol
dingus they want full government control
wowalinbie I think they switched from the right to the left so they could get everyone to trust the left
And then when everyone is on the left they switch to control from the left like a trap
That's legit the opposite of the left - let people be who they want as long as it doesn't hurt others.
This is sad, I see a reasonable comment with valid points about the extremes of the right and left and when I see the replies all I see is the right attacking the left. How did people stop becoming self-aware?
"War is glorious to those that have no experience of it"
War is never glorious but sometimes necessary.
@@lcbflorida Almost never necessary.
I know plenty veterans who have killed and enjoy it.
@@resmarted enjoyed it*
Everyone is a perfect parent until they become one.
Everyone can take a punch like Rocky Balboa until they take one.
Everyone can fight like Bruce Lee until they are in one.
Everyone is a legend in their own minds.
But reality is a merciless instructor and pain a flawless teacher.
Peace only happens when the people who have learned how to get completely over themselves vastly outnumber the fools who think their personal fantasies are reality.
@ PappMurf’s Porch, all that is needed for evil to flourish is for good men to say nothing. Remember the words of Martin Bonhoeffer(?spelling) First they came for the Communist, and I said nothing because I was not a communist. Then that came for Jews, and I said nothing because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I was not catholic so I said nothing. Then they can for the Christians, but no one said anything for me, because no one else to say anything for me.
Remember kids
The strongest dumbest fool crumble before 308 Winchester
@ PappaMurf’s Porch, 1 good sincere punch to the face is worth 5 years of karate training. Pain is a good teacher, and experience is usually painful. I have been in enough fights growing up, and dicey situations because of my job. Every situation is different, but if you prepare yourself for any situation you can think of, the better off you will be. I understand the retired SEALS point of view. I hope he is right, but the wild card comes from extremist on every side, the people who just want to watch the world burn, for no other reason than they have chosen to act in an evil manner. Here is the thing though, If you want to take the time to figure out why someone acts the way they do, please feel free. Unfortunately I don’t always have the luxury to figure out the trigger for the motives that someone has. Sometimes, my immediate response has to be to neutralize the threat, before they can harm me, or themselves. You have to be aware of the situation and your surroundings, and know to the best of your knowledge who you are dealing with. I am a CCP holder, with firearms training, and one thing I always tell someone, as a firearm owner, you need to be honest with yourself, and know, really know, that you have the possibility to end the life of someone’s brother, sister, mother, father, uncle, cousin, friend. But they are also trying to take you away from your spouse, your children, your Mother, your Father, your Uncles, Aunts, your cousins, your friends. And you need to know if you are ready for that burden, before you ever carry a weapon.
Very wise words Christopher. Hallmark should pay you for a million cards saying that
Whether it Democrat’s or Republicans each side has its loonies and crazies.
Thank you for recognizing both sides have their poopy poops
All of them. Libertarians an anarchist unit.
Antifa is proof...…………………..
@@aquaticterrafirma by that logic the kkk are proof too
But there's also good people on either side too
One when we see corruption get a pass, it stirs the desire for justice, and when there is no justice things get out of order.
You're 100% correct.
@@fatherscarecourtsdont1389 Capital liberation? Great example of how divided we are. That shit was angry white folks getting tricked into insurrection by a leader who now accepts no responsibility. Congress members fearing for their lives shouldn’t be perceived as a positive.
Denis Crisp, you nailed it sir and the corruption is on both sides of the Blue and Red Aisle is nothing but a game to these oligarchs who control the red and blue pawns to keep people divided. Division is nothing but a big win on top. Orwellian times!
@@temsedgwick9494 your synopsis is pretty much MSNBC talking points. Corruption is getting a pass now that the DNC is back in power. We had a president who was under attack every day from the DNC/ DEEPSTATE/ NEWSMEDIA and they attacked people like me. Tried psyopping the public and getting them to cower. Nope, we are being herded into a new reality like Chairman Mao, Stalin days as they radically redefine the USA
@@antonvanveen8824 please share how your synopsis differs from Newsmax talking points? Or OAN?
Regardless of the results of the 2020 election there will be horrible consequences.
No doubt
Hasiger Hase it won’t end up like South Africa considering there’s more white people in America that will put up an actual fight.
I am fed up with Republicans and democrats....they are both rotten at the core. I feel that no matter who is announced as winner the other party is gonna yell fraud.
@Hasiger Hase my mother met a family in ecuador that had to flee and leave everything, because they were about to be killed for merely being white
@Chris Ruiz yes, and one of their friends and neighbors was murdered
Well this aged like wine now we are closer to war on the homeland than ever before
Twix started the left right fight
The Finesse fucking Twix, I never saw it coming.
I faught in iraq and Afghanistan, i know what comes with combat and don't want that here. However, just like over there, those with fanatical ideologys can not be reasoned with when they want violence. You can not have peace with someone who only wants you dead or in captivity. If civil war does come about then i will be on the frontlines. only because violence on a major scale will already exist rather I want it or not and the only way to not become an unintended casualty is if I fight. The quicker it's over the higher the chance my family will be safe. I most certainly will not fight for those that want only death, captivity, or subjugation.
Bill Hall thank u for ur service!!!
I understand what your saying but what you're saying goes against everything this country is known for.
If people, this country truly didn't want to see people especially those of color dead or in captivity
Civil war would have never occurred, we wouldn't be in the shape were in now as a country.
I agree with previous posts saying the majority aren't racist otherwise slavery would have never come to an end. But the minority of the majority are very vocal and unchecked within from the majority.
Bill, I am with you. It is becoming clear that a political solution is unattainable because one side has gone off the deep end. They are unreasonable and unyielding and they seek power by any means. It is good vs evil. I saw many people wearing 0bama shirts and other things during his presidency, and I respected the 1st Amendment rights of those who chose to wear 0bama gear. I dislike 0bama with the intensity of a thousand suns, but I accepted the fact that he got elected twice. Now, people wearing MAGA hats are subjected to ridicule and even violence. They have not gotten over the fact Trump won and the complicit media continues to make things worse. Keep your powder dry.
@@Darwinist1
The fact that you find it difficult to understand why the inception to Trump is frosty compared to Obama warm welcome is puzzling. Jk it's not puzzling. You sound like an idiot.
Trump is and has been vile and has spoken ill about a number of different people. Obama didn't do things like that.
Hate the policy that's fine but don't act stupid to the facts of why.
For the record I voted for Trump by his words and actions he is a piece of shit just hoping I get the 1 thing I voted him in for.
Carry on
@@melongstrike Obama did speak ill of his political foes. He just sounded better doing it. Nor did he have nearly every news channel and evening tv show slamming him for it. Obama understood politics and was a statesman. Trump is none of those things. Realistically Trump's politics is a degree off from Bill Clinton. But the DNC is no longer there. The anger comes from the divide and loss of 1st principles that the country was founded on.
I got back to the States after 11 years and could not believe what I was seeing. There are enough battles in life that we certainly don’t need to fight our neighbors.
But everyone has to be right in someone else's face demanding they live by THEIR ideas and rules. A one size fits all system of law does not work.
@@marksage5722 that's not what was intended when this nation was founded.
Is it not obvious why the framers put Speech first and then Arms..? This is when the arms are supposed to come into play, when speech has failed us... 🇺🇸
Had we taken Pelosi and company out of the picture I do not believe the Chinese would have used a biological weapon on us.... We failed to preserve our nation. And our enemies got confident enough in our failures to use a biological weapon on the globe. Now we are at a new milestone. And our processes are too gummed up targeting our own people that the enemy is letting us destroy our own country... they are already talking about bringing foreign "peacekeepers" on our soil..? How about this message to the unappreciative world? "If as an Allie you line up to defend this fraudulent administration when we finally decide to take it all back. You will be counted as an enemy of peace and as soon as we sweep this mess here up. We will be coming for you next!
What's great about America is everybody can have an opinion...
I love when JRE and Andy get together---I always learn so much from them
A Navy Seal - gives his Career a 'C' - damn, that's some Humility right there.
Hrs seen first hand that war is where the poor go to die for the rich and their kids.
Deep down he's not proud of himself. He knows he didn't fight for a righteous cause.
yando hillman andy stumpf was in seal team 6 . The c is cause he got shot and left devgru had he finished his service in devgru he would grade it higher.
I give the US empire an F.
@yando hillman, He's grading himself from other seals he served with.
@Elron Great so the standard to beat is Stalin or Nazi's are you sure you haven't set the bar too high for your country?
Whew! this discussion took place 18 months ago. They were appalled at how bad things were and wondering how it could possibly get worse. Wonder what they think now?
Things are getting more fucked day by day....actually hour by hour.
yes exactly, got this video suggested by the youtube algo today... curious about what they say in a reboot vid
How about now ? The USA is a dangerous place to be now ! If trump successfully flip's the votes , he becomes a dictator ! And the country will destroy itself from within ..Stay safe
@@joepike9703 "If Trump successfully flips the votes, he becomes a dictator". Are you serious with that statement? Trump isn't looking to "flip the votes". He/we Americans want an accurate, legitimate, and fair election. This election was a fraud. It's like something out of a third world country!!
@@joepike9703,becomes a dictator? Are you a FU**EN idiot?
I'm a Libertarian conservative I'm not racist I just want a small government that stays out of my life
Brandon Musser better start studying economics and figure that one out
@@cj5312 hey youngin how about you get through high school first then talk to me about the economy
Same here Brandon. Keep it up.
then you should be a dropout of society. go to the woods and do your thing
@Fred Freddy and you're funny
I am right their with you Brother I know how you feel as a Military veteran.
5:27
Andy: what is the way out of that
Joe: Mushrooms
Andy: ok I hadn’t considered that
He said mushrooms without a fuckin doubt. Like it was an impulse answer 😂
@@mikeokhurtz2152 If we could solve world conflict with Mushroom, I would take it too
Anybody up for the atomic bong?
@@nicholasrocha2414It’s really simple… Truth is made illegal so now we all get to go to hell.
I'd love to see this exact conversation with these two men today. Same topic but now considering what the country has been through in the past 2 years.
The message would be the same.
It's unchanged. We combat ugly HateSpeech with more speech. Violence begets violence. People need to learn history.
You mean the past six years
exactly!!!!
weak men like them, are the reason we are here today
too afraid of dealing with the real shit, when its at home
it was about time then
its past time now
I'm a Veteran with PTSD. When I started smoking weed, everything changed. My outlook on life, my additude towards other people and my additude towards myself and my own issues. I'm no longer a "ticking time bomb". Weed did that for me. Say what u want about it, but it does help. Keep up the great work Joe. Love u brother
@@fatherscarecourtsdont1389 weed makes you calmer and able to handle situations better. It doesn't change who you are. At least for me and the people I know are like that. I'm sure there's people that just become totally worthless when they smoke
I’ve seen so many articles that say weed is just a bad way to cope with your problems. Well I disagree because weed opened the door for me to be in a better emotion head space and helped me tackle my problems with less anxiety.
@@fatherscarecourtsdont1389 The government doesn’t need weed for this. They already have big pharma for that.
Thank you for your service sir. I smoke weed too, have for many years after high school and it helped me call tf down. It’s also really good for post workout after I’ve used a tree like a punching bag 😂
There's always one guy that's gotta try and change the minds of the masses by spouting judgment and their close-minded OPINIONS. You see me trying to change the minds of people who drink Alcohol? Nope. Even tho 5.2 million people die every year from alcohol-related injuries. 20,000 people die every year from Pharmaceuticals. 0 people have died from Marijuana....STILL....so yeah, ill have a great time "smokin my dope" everyday lol, u tool
I would love to see you two revisit this video with the same discussion today.
"Only a sith deals in absolutes." - Obi Wan Kenobi
To my perspective the Jedi are evil- Anakin Skywalker
I stand for the republic! For DEMOCRACY! - Obi Wan Kenobi
The Sith were right in philosophy but wrong in their execution, and the Jedi were the opposite.
Balance is an equal number of dark and light, which is why Dark Jedi existed.
@@hexadecimal5236 they were horribly incorrect in their philosophy post Bane, and pre bane was horribly inefficient.
I know the prequels were absolute shit. That must make me a sith. Anagrams!!!!
Left or Right doesn't matter, a man has a responsibility to protect his family by any means necessary.
The right has the guns and the ability to use them. Let's see who wins.
The left has the mob and will destroy the few patriots, unless they tribe up and get their numbers up.
Don’t forget who makes your guns brother
It's a matter of self-preservation. Every human instinct is to protect his family from threat. Americans are living on desperate times. We are living so comfortably. Too much freedom that some became entitle. What happen to personal responsibility and personal accountability???
@@jfkst1It is cute that the right thinks that they're the only Americans who "has the guns and the ability to use them".
I don't want violence. I never would want violence and my beliefs call for non violence... BUT if someone claiming some sort of authority over me and invade my property to try and take my property that's different. My right to free speech and self defense is non negotiable and not up for a vote. Liberty is worth fighting and possibly dying for.
Its too late at that point.
Hey Ken don't be naive. This country is built on violence. We spend so much on the military that surpasses every other country. Gun violence is everywhere. Time to send people to Jesus!
@@kcheznyc This country may have been built on violence, but it's existed in relative peace for many years. The Constitution and Bill of Rights made that possible. And gun violence is NOT everywhere in America. The way to stop gun violence is to enforce existing laws, it's just that simple. Gun violence exists where pain and desperation exists. If social justice warriors were truly interested in social justice, they would assist in the eradication of violence in America- instead of trying to create it.
@@kcheznyc Matthew 15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
Ezekiel 22:12 In thee have they taken gifts to shed blood; thou hast taken usury and increase, and thou hast greedily gained of thy neighbours by extortion,
and hast forgotten me, saith the Lord GOD.
Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews,
and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Amen to that brother.
Watching this 5 years later and it turns out the person who pushes us closer and closer to civil war is joe Rogan
Andy: "What's the navigable route out of it?"
Joe: "Mushrooms"
Sadly, today's politicians know that few in public schools have read Huxley's Brave New World so few know what SOMA is. But the politicians do. And they maneuvered the public into vying for the legalization of some drugs for recreational use because they know that people who are high are controllable.
Mushroom clouds?
Alex Rowe No, that’s the finale to if the civil war does occur. What Joe’s talking about (as always) is psychedelics.
@@Crusader-tg1wx either way it's not really a wrong answer
LOL silly me thinking this was just a Joe Rogan Joke, rather than an actual quote.
Everyone wants to fight until they get into one. Everyone wants to be down until it’s time to be down.
Everybody wants to be gangster until its time to do gangster shit!
except for those who have been physically abused...
There is no getting along with People that don’t want to get along !
It's hard times for moderates right now
@Gary your part of the problem. Ok wait hang on. Ignore what i said. Does liberal mean far left or just left in general. Because if it means left in general you are literally doing exactly to the left what joe said the left was doing to the right. You sit here and listen but dont understand anything and then immediatly accept the "us or them" mentality thats the problem.
@gary the irony.
Dam straight i don't bump shoulders with pediphiles thats why i want alk democrats dead
Bacons Strip The Only chicken Shit Cowards Are Democrats And Lying Peoples Like You ! What is it like Knowing That in your Heart you Know that You Are a Chicken Shit Coward That Stabs His Country in the Back Every Chance he Gets ? President Trump is One Of The Best If Not The Best Presidents America has Ever Had ! Run along home and hide in your Parents House because you are To lazy to get a job and can’t get a place of your own ! What A Piece Of Crap You Are ! Another Ball Less Wonder Who’s Parents didn’t whip your ass when you needed it !
Such a humble gentleman. He gave himself a C. If you don’t know (because he doesn’t advertise it) he’s a DEVGRU Operator. Elite of elite warrior.
Im conservative and im none of those negative connotations and I keep an open mind and listen and try to understand all points of view to reach better common ground.
Joshua Frohm Thats refreshing to hear! I lean more liberal personally, but I love meeting people with different opinions that have an open mind. Keep that mindset! It's important to understand each other, especially when we don't agree. :)
What is your take on trump and how concerned are u about his Russian connections?
Nice, unfortunately, youre the minority in your political affiliation
I'm a centrist liberal. I liked McCain and I like Romney. I don't understand the far left like I don't understand the far right. When you stay to the center, you can have a discussion and be friends.
Jonathan Juby most centrist ive met lean right either way, so its hard for me to buy into the whole, “centrist are the real big brains”
When it comes to violence, most people have a mindset of a 13 year old teenager it seems.
@Virtual Window because real men spent their days anonymously telling random strangers on the internet that they're snowflakes. Truly the pinnacle of masculinity.
@@twan6200 That is not masculinity, that is being a douchebag. Masculinity is not some inherently toxic concept, the problem is when these Alpha Male turds warp what masculinity is
The average person does not know real violence. That is why were destined for war soon, civil or otherwise. Too many are ready for it, and few today know its horrors.
@@justanotherguy6174 Have you ever considered that they do know the horrors and risks. Have you ever considered that life is getting so bad that people no longer care if they live or die? Thats just how much the modern world has psychologically fucked us.
@@jasonhymes3382 they don't know shit, people want violence and at the same time call military vets murderes.
It ain't about Left vs. Right, its about The State vs. We the People.
Yeah, Left vrs. Right.
@Logan Waltz Lol. Governments rule over people without their consent. That's called oppression. Your argument is blatantly contradictory. Anarchy, respecting voluntary association and the natural rights of each individual, is the only legitimate and moral lifestyle. Anarchy doesn't mean no rules, it literally means no rulers. Governments are the gangs. And anarchy can't be implemented, it is apolitical and should not be forced. And those who do force their will upon others (any and all statists) are the thugs, along with their governments, police forces, militaries, and courts. Statism is the problem. It is the tyranny. Anarchy doesn't guarantee you safety, but statism does guarantee you oppression. Trading in freedom for security eventually gets you neither.
DmarkK ignorance
If you people knew how to vote and actually hold politicians accountable without having a CNN/Fox News headline tell you to do so, we wouldnt be having this problem right now.
@Supernaturally American right, chances are you are one of the Americans that dont vote in the primaries or for local government elections. dont get upset that elections have devolved into a popularity contest. We the people are to blame, plain and simple. It takes a population of idiots to ruin a democracy.
How can a good person have murder in their hearts? The two do not co-exist.
well, this certainly hits differently now.
Yers, we just had our Kent State. People are very foolish. They do not understand what this world will be like if the USA would sink into a civil war. This country would have at least 2 other world powers inside our borders fighting for control. It would not end with The USA controlling its own outcome.
@@tonymars1093 do you think the Nato defence pact would extend to fit the situation? I mean they let Greece and turkey go at each other. And if they do, would the foreign power interfering be seen as an act of war?
@@tonymars1093 that’s the stupidest take I’ve ever heard. Other countries coming in? Wtf r u talking about. You’re a stupid bitch.
NATO is so weak. They would be afraid to act without the United States leadership.
@@SosaKinkos Not only are you stupid Sosa you are very naive.