0:03 (Test 1) What if we block the bots' way? 2:11 (Test 2) Traffic 3:57 (Test 3) World Graphic 5:14 (Test 4) Car Graphic 6:27 (Test 5) Physics 7:29 (Test 6) City 8:14 (Test 7) City in night
The front of the car is wrong in Unbound, the Front on Froza is right (side lights & gill ) The Rear of the car is wrong on Froza, but Unbound it's right. (tail lights & shadows ) hm mmm mmm ahhh I CAN'T TAKE IT!!!! (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
@@kevinerbs2778 no, the entire R34 car model in Forza is wrong, the entire front drops slightly too low, causing the bumper and headlights to be deformed, especially the headlights which are shaped more like those of a 2002 Vauxhall Astra, the roofline is also incorrect with the rear part of it not being round enough, same with the rear side windows, the rear I don't really know what to say about, oh and the wheel shape is wrong as well, they're flat overall the car model is of incredibly low quality as it dates back to Motorsport 1, the only thing ever changed was the side indicators, which used to be correct (transparent white for MY2000 facelift) on the X360 but now they aren't
Fun fact, that city in FH5 (I forget the name) is based off of a real city in Mexico, and is largely accurate. My wife's best friend visited recently after returning from a trip to Mexico, and I happened to be playing the game in thay city, and she recognized it. She was able to navigate through the city for the most part and pointed out areas like a coffee shop she visited or the building she was staying in. Loved seeing the realism on display
Give me a break with that IRL bullshit. The only IRL thing in Forza is physics and those weren’t designed by Playground. Other than that’s it’s like a fantasy game. A mindblowingly cringy pretense of 'you’re so cool we made a million dollar event just to see you drive around'. All cars are represented by special edition trims. 95% of engine swaps make no sense. V12s in that game either sound like mosquitos or like V6s. And so on and on and on. Horizon 5 to the IRL style is what Skyrim is to martial arts.
@@cxlciummmiv Engine sounds are miles better than any horizon game ever. Idk if you are talking about fh 4 or 5 💀. If you don't like the game just don't play it. Horizon 5 is still and will be the most played racing game of this generation.
My only gripe about NFS is that in their recent games all the engines of cars sound so quiet. Where in real life you'd be able to hear a suped up car from even a mile away, you can only seem to hear a suped up car if it's right next to you in NFS.
If they make it real like that… that would be insane. Let’s hope for future games they get it together. Or a new studio comes out with a racing game and this is exactly how it is!
The engine sounds are also pretty boring and not very accurate… i understand that they had to basically make them from scratch to implement the tuned exhaust system, but the audio design in general isn’t very good.
Despite being a shitty company, all the games that go through EA to be published are delivered with very detailed graphics, even in real racing for mobile you can see the reflections inside headlights and read the brembo name on the brake calipers, in cockpit view you can even see the temperature of the air conditioner, i have modded their cars in order to add liveries, and holy shit the 3D models are 100% accurate and perfectly crafted, the models from rr3 are also used to mod other nfs titles by the modding community, so yes, EA and the studios they work with always give the best in term of graphics
Thats called bad optimization, using unnecessarily high textures in scenarios where players won't even notice. That is why Horizon runs smooth on even integrated graphics and Unbound struggles on high end Pcs
@@E................. Ps5 runs at Dynamic resolution and still just gets around 60fps, PC can run Native 4k with uncapped Fps. ua-cam.com/video/kH1658OdfGQ/v-deo.html
Give me a break with that IRL bullshit. The only IRL thing in Forza is physics and those weren’t designed by Playground. Other than that’s it’s like a fantasy game. A mindblowingly cringy pretense of 'you’re so cool we made a million dollar event just to see you drive around'. All cars are represented by special edition trims. 95% of engine swaps make no sense. V12s in that game either sound like mosquitos or like V6s. And so on and on and on. Horizon 5 to the IRL style is what Skyrim is to martial arts.
@@cxlciummmiv just a hater gonna hate thing, seems like you're a type who will strike every comment that talk good things about the game you hate, bruh 💀
Imagine forza and nfs did a collab like we could have a mix in graphics and forza physics but a nfs story and we could have all these cars from forza and pair it with nfs customisation, it would be epic, and of course it’s in Tokyo.
@@BengalTiger12 Just the idea of a NFS X Forza game makes no sense. They're games tackling different mediums of the racing genre. I could explain it but I shouldn't have to.
Just going to point out, with regards to the race AI tests: Forza horizon 5's ai actually DOES change behavior SIGNIFICANTLY based on what cars they are in. You see a sliver of it with them just trying to bull you out of the way in the trucks, but then when in exotics/sports cars they try to go around. It's weird for that to not be acknowledged.
The one from forza had much more finer details, his contrast must be high because I’ve seen on other cars the carbon fiber to the smallest degree, the mesh in vents, every single mark in a taillight, etc. nfs lacks in small detail but improves on the larger more glowing details
Both games are good in terms of graphics, cars and atmosphere. But criterion made a terrible job with physics, and really good job with graphics. I hope they launch an update to fix some stuff that is ruining the game, Forza is good for now.
@@be_wa yeah,as a xbox fan i love forza.but as you said,it doesn't give the racing adrenaline like NFS series.because its more simulator than arcade.In term of graphics and physics forza has no competition
@@slytheravenx2716 yeah, I like both cities I haven't had a chance to play unbound but the truth is the city and the graphics aren't bad at all Although I like the town a little more, being Mexican I can say that they did the town well, very similar to the real ones
@@killermacho444 No dude, Guanajuato is not a "town" I've been there twice and I can say even thought Forza did a good job making it, in real life is bigger and way more beautiful, also the Guanajuato shown in the game it's only the historical downtown, it doesn't show the modern part.
@@slytheravenx2716 bruh, as a mexican i tell you that it is a town because originally that is how it was built regardless of whether the land was expanded with modern things
5:29 seems like you're also using the RT self reflection in photography mode And it surely make the close up view of the GTR on Forza is miles better than Unbound
Both games look great, but from where I'm sitting, it seems a difference between micro and macro. This is especially with the cars. NFS has a much closer focus on the cars themselves due to the extensive customization and the fact you can do bumper deletes and whatnot, so they fit into the 'micro' category here. Meanwhile, FH has focused on the open world more than the individual details of the cars themselves (altho, some of the parts do look better in FH for me, like the rear key slots and badge on the GTR), resulting in a more interesting and cohesive open world. Their genre also attributes to this, Horizon is a simcade, blending both simulator depth and arcade looseness. This means the open world NEEDS to function relatively realistic or it'll be out of place. NFS is purely arcade, meaning the destruction of the open world isn't necessarily a major priority in the development pipeline. And the cities are a great example of this as well. NFS's city is 90% boxes and flat roads from what we saw here with some extras to make it more dynamic (the railroad tracks and some elevation changes. And while it makes sense for a big city to look like this, I personally think that more time should have been spent on the dynamisms of the city as a whole and making the building textures seem less flat. Horizon adds so much variability to every building and street, showing the dedication to macro scale. When I look at Horizon, I can see a fully realized product that could be released as-is (the bugs and stuff at launch notwithstanding, as I am focusing on the graphics here). Meanwhile NFS in my opinion, looks like a high-end tech demo. Flat textures, no major dynamics between each of the buildings and not enough detail within the city itself. Thank you for coming to my rant. Please, have a complimentary crouton.
Guanajuato is amazing. People are just used to have modern cities in every racing game. I give props to Playground/Turn10 to try doing something different (including Edinburgh in FH4)
I once read an article by playground games. The bots are not supposed to ram you, EXCEPT bots from your friendlist. They are supposed to be more aggrassive.
Some of the graphics details on the cars specifically appear to come down to shaders used by the devs on a given model or the environment the screenshot was taken in that affects lighting. Because the model itself doesn't appear much different, only how much they obscured details, how bright the shadows are, how bright the light source is, and how reflective they set the paint/metal to. Rough / metal level is literally a slider in these 3D programs, and most of the time when you're doing hard surface modeling and rendering, you're literally just eyeballing it. it depends on exactly what sort of feel they want to capture and what details might be too harsh and distracting for the style they are going for. Forza appears to diminish small details for whatever reason, or maybe just not bump mapping them too much or not contrasting them to the level of Unbound. NFS Unbound is also aggressively stylized with this hybrid of anime and hyper-realism, so it makes sense that they'd turn up the volume on small details. They are definitely there equally in Forza, they're just more blended in, the transparency, bump mapping and metallic levels are just set differently. Good or bad is subjective. The environments not being that special up close makes sense to me for NFS, the idea is to be going too fast most of the time to notice the flat shrub/grass panels. Handling-wise, NFS would suck with good physics lol
I'd argue that Unbound looks slightly lower poly count. You can see that the circles look less circular, for instance. But it's only really going to be noticed up close like this. Unbound does seem to dial up the shininess and detail just a tad, I think. It's a little flashier while still looking *pretty* real. Which is pretty NFS.
Forza more on the IRL style, and will no doubt be superior no matter what. NFS does focus on that and stays arcade as it always has been. Graphically both are amazing.
Give me a break with that IRL bullshit. The only IRL thing in Forza is physics and those weren’t designed by Playground. Other than that’s it’s like a fantasy game. A mindblowingly cringy pretense of 'you’re so cool we made a million dollar event just to see you drive around'. All cars are represented by special edition trims. 95% of engine swaps make no sense. V12s in that game either sound like mosquitos or like V6s. And so on and on and on. Horizon 5 to the IRL style is what Skyrim is to martial arts.
@@sarmatiancougar7556 You just said what I just said. Never mentioned anything in regards to anything else but the physics. Everything else is just for show. I even said graphically both are pretty solid. So your rant is unnecessary and made no point whatsoever.
@@oscarfunez3806 if that makes a game good, go play beam ng (and Jeah I like that game too, but besides the physics and many mods, beam ng does not have much in comparison to nfs or forza...)
@@beeboopboo Unbound had 3 years of development, rushed is not the correct word, the correct word is experimental, NFS games for years have been throwing a rock at the wall and seeing if it sticked to it, that's why only a few games in the franchise only got sequels (Underground, MW to Carbon and Hot Pursuit for examples) Ever sense Blackbox got shut down due to EA's constant meddling and blame shifting in their games, NFS games have had an issue with sticking with 1 consistent view and the wide variety of games and fans didn't exactly help either as it was hard to stick to one formula and perfect it. NFS Payback showed promise and so they stripped it down and made Heat, Heat was a better success but it still required more fundamental core changes to make a new type of NFS game engaging and fun and so we got Unbound, not the perfect NFS game, but a step in the right direction on what progression, risk and rewarding the player should feel for a NFS game, one that we actually haven't felt since MW05 really. Thankfully Unbound as only just released and it's going to be expanded upon further.....well, if EA doesn't decide to kill it before it can shine like it did with Heat.
Need for Speed: Unbound car models: Laser-scanned since Rivals. Forza Horizon 5 car models: *65% of them are recycled from Xbox 360 titles while having bad proportions due to being hand-made with the Subaru Impreza WRX 22B (GC8), Nissan Silvia S15 and Skyline R32 GT-R being the worst offenders.*
@@gigalordjesus2259 I do virtual car photography & I'm being paid for it so ofc the clients won't be satisfied with photos that look repetitive, I use Forza horizon games etc & I need diversity so I end up buying more & more games to offer that 🤣.. FH5 map looks the same in each area, just as an example the entire forest location looks the same no matter where u take the pic, it's all just copy & paste of the same stuff over & over & don't even get me started on that small city, entirely the same.... It's really annoying
@@gigalordjesus2259 because a game has weather effects doesn't mean it looks diverse. FH5 is literally a town, volcano, forest and some hills. NFS's map is smaller but actually does stuff like the city, industrial zone, smaller towns, ski resort, closed fairgrounds, construction sites, cliffs and forests everywhere without needing the flat empty areas
@@bigmooseplays NFS is so fake mate. Literally there is nitro in every car and did your corolla have one. Just play FH5 its just like your everyday driving but you can drive more types and different cars. For experience just play Forza series but for arcade style gameplay then NFS is the one.
@@limyongheng3235 bro said a game's bad because of nitro 💀. You literally buy modified version of the cars and heat could let you remove nitro. Also, Forza's experience is literally a few hours to get everything decent 💀
Forza horizon 5 has no deal looking as detailed and photorealistic as it does, but thats it, that's all it has, it's such an incredibly beautiful boring game. Unbound is more stylistic, but it has arcade physics to carry the game, and for most people thats more fun to play.
Forza Horizon 5 is a nice looking game and it has great physics. However, it’s a sandbox game and it get can boring pretty quickly due to lack of motivation. NFS Unbound is NOT better than FH5 nor is it even a good NFS game. Bad physics, bad music, bad art style, terrible performance score mechanic.
@@SpeedsonicOddTristan in short, this is your opinion on both games, for me both games have their strengths and weaknesses FH5 is beautiful and has a very good gameplay mixing arcade with simulator but that's it, boring and empty progression, cars with generic soud and no individuality (the time when FH dominated in graphics is gone) NFS Unbound has much better graphics NFS Unbound has an average gameplay that's a fact that comes from the older NFS, but it is compensated with very deep customization of cars, sound design of the cars is simply fantastic (all the sound part with the exception of the music is something amazing) graphics is certainly one of the best to date featuring the most immersive and beautiful map in the franchise but it's my opinion, if it's good or bad that's another story
@@ricardovii6897 no were near a fact for older games i still to this day think that most wanted 05 takes the pedestal of best nfs game of all time still is even with unbound. Unbound looks just as broken as the other recent games just sad man
Forza horizon 5 is amazing if you have a team to play / race with. I like NFS vibe more but I like Forza physics way better so I usually end up playing Forza. Now I have top 1% lap times on all circuits in the game and I wish there was a more competitive game mode. Guess I'll just wait for Forza Motorsport 8
6:42 as a developer, I literally don't understand why they didn't make crashing into trees atleast slow you down a little, it's not even that hard, I did it in my game like it was nothing.
Well people hate it when you are driving like a boss and a goddamn tree ruins their pace. Realism ain't fun(not always). It's not about how hard implementing stuff is, it's about game feel
My only problem is that forza gets the best graphics and performance playground games really optimised the game while nfs unbound gets performance hits and frame drops for similar looking graphics
That’s definitely playing on a Xbox one bc on my series s I can literally see the bulb of the headlights and reflections off of the lug nuts in insane detail
Forza looks better, but Unbound also looks incredible, just not quite as good. Unbound is my favorite need for speed next to underground 2 and most wanted.
Tem coisas melhor que o forza sim efeito de agua escorrendo no carro que o forza não tem os vidro dos carro parece vidro e o do forza parece de plastico fora as batidas
Просто эти игры сравнивать довольно странно. Forza- это скорее аркадный симулятор с упором на детализацию и реализм возможно, а nfs- это скорее просто аркада в которой основы это сюжет и развитие. В Forza по сути как такового сюжета та и нет.
1. Fh5 is chilling but NFS is hardcore. 2. Fh5 focuses on realism but NFS is eye pleasing. 3. Fh5 has better handling and drifting but NFS still follows same drifting mechanics just like its previous entities. 4. Fh5 is cool but NFS is love.
The cars in nfs are lower polycount and you can see more obvious straight edges along curves more, but they are more dimensionally accurate more or less, whereas forza's dimension accuracy varies to a point where if you see the real thing often, it takes away from the experience. This particular r34 is one of the not so good ones from forza (and one of the older recycled models) if you're nitpicky, but it's not as bad as their other models.
One is breathtakingly beautifull, has incredible map diversity and heaps of cars, but can get incredibly boring The other one is bolder and has a bigger emphasis on atmosphere, has way less cars, but puts much more tought and meaning into them, but has questionable physics and is traditionally unpolished. When did racing games get so good and bad at the same time smh
One undeniable fact is that FH5 somehow looks freaking photorealistic. Like there's no game in recent years that looked photorealistic(except for RDR2 but that's an unfair comparison). The vegetation felt like it could be a base for a first person game. While NFS Unbound just looks bad to average at best. It cannot even match upto 2016 NFS. And that's just sad
Note on the AI: Forza's AI is done via deep learning of actual players racing, so it does get a bit fucky at times. The AI will actually ram you and block off you off in certain races and difficulties thanks to half of the Forza community being shameful rammers. I say this as someone who loves the game
Horizon's graphics look like the perfect world, what we would like to see... While NPS graphics are the like the real world graphics with a little bit of pollution as well
Horizon games SUCK. They are devolving so fast that driving physics is the only thing going on for them really. Otherwise it’s the same recycled car list, the same BORING customization, same boring narrow road races, same cheating ai, same utter lack of a sense of speed. As soon as NFS gets rid of btd there’s gonna be no reason to even look at FH. Like really, if you want to play Forza just pick Motorsport 4 or Horizon 1 and don’t bother with Playground games, there’s nothing in there beside for stuff that’s already in previous titles.
Give me a break with that IRL bullshit. The only IRL thing in Forza is physics and those weren’t designed by Playground. Other than that’s it’s like a fantasy game. A mindblowingly cringy pretense of 'you’re so cool we made a million dollar event just to see you drive around'. All cars are represented by special edition trims. 95% of engine swaps make no sense. V12s in that game either sound like mosquitos or like V6s. And so on and on and on. Horizon 5 to the IRL style is what Skyrim is to martial arts.
Great video ! From my experience with Forza Horizon 4 and 5, the traffic does stop for a few seconds if something is in the way, but if they can bypass you without leaving their lane too much, they will eventually do it (for example, if you're slightly on the side of the road). The traffic AI is pretty much unchanged between both games. They do stop at stop signs and indicate their intent with their blinkers, but they do not stop at traffic lights, which are always green, except in the Lego Speed Champions DLC in FH4, which does feature functional traffic lights, with traffic that reacts accordingly. Vehicle details in Horizon 4 and 5 is pretty stunning for a video game, but if you get familiar with it, and are someone who pay attention to those kinds of details, it's easy to see its flaws, and it's especially worse if you are a car enthusiast, as I've seen a few friends get disappointed with weird details that should or shouldn't have been on some car models. In most cases though, the game does really well on screenshots.
Soy de México y vi que estaría bien que agregaran más ciudades de México porque Guanajuato está bien pero es muy pequeño y creo que les faltó agregar más cosas porque no me gustaría que la gente se lleve una mala impresión de México y que piensen que es Guanajuato tequila y desierto.
Some parts of the car look more detailed in NFS, but the overall look is much better in Forza! And of course, this also applies to the environment. I play on max settings with my 3080 but still the nature looks like from 2010-16 Even Forza 4 is way, way ahead when it comes to scenery.
Give me a break with that IRL bullshit. The only IRL thing in Forza is physics and those weren’t designed by Playground. Other than that’s it’s like a fantasy game. A mindblowingly cringy pretense of 'you’re so cool we made a million dollar event just to see you drive around'. All cars are represented by special edition trims. 95% of engine swaps make no sense. V12s in that game either sound like mosquitos or like V6s. And so on and on and on. Horizon 5 to the IRL style is what Skyrim is to martial arts.
3:50 I think the cop probably just handle the steering with 1 hand and holding either a donut of cup of coffee on the other hand.. The cop literally dont give an F about what happened..
Theres no competition in realism and graphics for forza but i like the gameplay of nfs just a little bit more ....both games are super at their own places
Bro, why are you doing this? Don't compare the game with Gb. Need for speed was just released. Forza horizon. Look how many months have passed. You came here and you are talking crazy.
@@Nr1_Mnvv it’s actually useful information. Forza has way more cars and assets than Unbound….hence why it’s a bigger game. Secondly most people would rather have the extra hard drive space to install more games
0:03 (Test 1) What if we block the bots' way?
2:11 (Test 2) Traffic
3:57 (Test 3) World Graphic
5:14 (Test 4) Car Graphic
6:27 (Test 5) Physics
7:29 (Test 6) City
8:14 (Test 7) City in night
Fact: NFS Heat traffic was better
This should be pinned I believe
The front of the car is wrong in Unbound, the Front on Froza is right (side lights & gill )
The Rear of the car is wrong on Froza, but Unbound it's right. (tail lights & shadows )
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@@kevinerbs2778 no, the entire R34 car model in Forza is wrong, the entire front drops slightly too low, causing the bumper and headlights to be deformed, especially the headlights which are shaped more like those of a 2002 Vauxhall Astra, the roofline is also incorrect with the rear part of it not being round enough, same with the rear side windows, the rear I don't really know what to say about, oh and the wheel shape is wrong as well, they're flat
overall the car model is of incredibly low quality as it dates back to Motorsport 1, the only thing ever changed was the side indicators, which used to be correct (transparent white for MY2000 facelift) on the X360 but now they aren't
@@audi-71830 sorry but forza has better car models
Fun fact, that city in FH5 (I forget the name) is based off of a real city in Mexico, and is largely accurate. My wife's best friend visited recently after returning from a trip to Mexico, and I happened to be playing the game in thay city, and she recognized it. She was able to navigate through the city for the most part and pointed out areas like a coffee shop she visited or the building she was staying in. Loved seeing the realism on display
Guanajuato
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Even though is kinda accurate, in real life is waaaay more beautiful, specially at night, I've been there twice in 2022 so I know what I'm saying.
@@slytheravenx2716 I wanna visit at some point, never been to Mexico before but I plan to one day
Horizon 5 looks like it could be a very good open world survival game with those fire nature graphics 😂
Give me a break with that IRL bullshit. The only IRL thing in Forza is physics and those weren’t designed by Playground. Other than that’s it’s like a fantasy game. A mindblowingly cringy pretense of 'you’re so cool we made a million dollar event just to see you drive around'. All cars are represented by special edition trims. 95% of engine swaps make no sense. V12s in that game either sound like mosquitos or like V6s. And so on and on and on. Horizon 5 to the IRL style is what Skyrim is to martial arts.
@@cxlciummmiv Engine sounds are miles better than any horizon game ever. Idk if you are talking about fh 4 or 5 💀. If you don't like the game just don't play it. Horizon 5 is still and will be the most played racing game of this generation.
@@cxlciummmiv wait a minute. Why you just copy pasted one of the above comment from the section.
@@akiplay312 FH5 is far from being the best sounding Horizon game.
@@akiplay312 yeah because this generation has low standards for games lol
My only gripe about NFS is that in their recent games all the engines of cars sound so quiet. Where in real life you'd be able to hear a suped up car from even a mile away, you can only seem to hear a suped up car if it's right next to you in NFS.
If they make it real like that… that would be insane. Let’s hope for future games they get it together. Or a new studio comes out with a racing game and this is exactly how it is!
@@lowlifespore8993 Fingers crossed we live to see that day!
@@SlurryNoises right. With all the advancements these games are making, I don’t think it’ll be too long😆
The engine sounds are also pretty boring and not very accurate… i understand that they had to basically make them from scratch to implement the tuned exhaust system, but the audio design in general isn’t very good.
Audio effects especially engine are quiet in horizon too compared to previous titles
Holy the tires in NFS are super detailed, you can actually read the letters on it and all the details, I thought it was real
Despite being a shitty company, all the games that go through EA to be published are delivered with very detailed graphics, even in real racing for mobile you can see the reflections inside headlights and read the brembo name on the brake calipers, in cockpit view you can even see the temperature of the air conditioner, i have modded their cars in order to add liveries, and holy shit the 3D models are 100% accurate and perfectly crafted, the models from rr3 are also used to mod other nfs titles by the modding community, so yes, EA and the studios they work with always give the best in term of graphics
@@04liverydesign7 oh look a gaming journalists hope theres more out there.
Thats called bad optimization, using unnecessarily high textures in scenarios where players won't even notice.
That is why Horizon runs smooth on even integrated graphics and Unbound struggles on high end Pcs
@@MEYH3M crazy to think a PS5 runs better than a super expensive PC bruh that's yo problem
@@E................. Ps5 runs at Dynamic resolution and still just gets around 60fps, PC can run Native 4k with uncapped Fps. ua-cam.com/video/kH1658OdfGQ/v-deo.html
Forza's vegetation is insane.
Give me a break with that IRL bullshit. The only IRL thing in Forza is physics and those weren’t designed by Playground. Other than that’s it’s like a fantasy game. A mindblowingly cringy pretense of 'you’re so cool we made a million dollar event just to see you drive around'. All cars are represented by special edition trims. 95% of engine swaps make no sense. V12s in that game either sound like mosquitos or like V6s. And so on and on and on. Horizon 5 to the IRL style is what Skyrim is to martial arts.
@@cxlciummmiv broski, You put the same copy-pasted bullshit in 4 other comments
@@cxlciummmiv having a bad day?
@@cxlciummmiv just a hater gonna hate thing, seems like you're a type who will strike every comment that talk good things about the game you hate, bruh 💀
@@cxlciummmiv
LOL. You've never been in Mexico to say graphics don't look like real life
Imagine forza and nfs did a collab like we could have a mix in graphics and forza physics but a nfs story and we could have all these cars from forza and pair it with nfs customisation, it would be epic, and of course it’s in Tokyo.
Sounds like a horrible idea
@@SpeedsonicOddTristan how so?
@@BengalTiger12 Just the idea of a NFS X Forza game makes no sense. They're games tackling different mediums of the racing genre. I could explain it but I shouldn't have to.
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@@SpeedsonicOddTristanI agree nfs is illegal from birth
Just going to point out, with regards to the race AI tests:
Forza horizon 5's ai actually DOES change behavior SIGNIFICANTLY based on what cars they are in. You see a sliver of it with them just trying to bull you out of the way in the trucks, but then when in exotics/sports cars they try to go around. It's weird for that to not be acknowledged.
also depends on what difficulty you have your Ai on
I love how unbound goes a step further on car graphic and doesn't shadow small details out like forza does
It was due to the car the r34 model in Forza is a copy paste form older games on the 360
The one from forza had much more finer details, his contrast must be high because I’ve seen on other cars the carbon fiber to the smallest degree, the mesh in vents, every single mark in a taillight, etc. nfs lacks in small detail but improves on the larger more glowing details
@@Charles.mp4 we should accept both is good
Accept both is good
@@scoobsshrooms109 cope more dude NFS has better attention to detail than Forza
3:48 I can only imagine how hard he mashed the brakes to avoid hitting the cop
Both games are good in terms of graphics, cars and atmosphere. But criterion made a terrible job with physics, and really good job with graphics. I hope they launch an update to fix some stuff that is ruining the game, Forza is good for now.
Forza is one of the best no doubt,but it gets boring in a few days
@@AlirezaCF7 yeah, i played like for 4 hours and got bored
I like to feel the intensity and adrenaline of racing, but Forza doesn't give me much of that feeling. It remains one of my favourites.
@@be_wa yeah,as a xbox fan i love forza.but as you said,it doesn't give the racing adrenaline like NFS series.because its more simulator than arcade.In term of graphics and physics forza has no competition
@@AlirezaCF7 Yeah, also i will download Forza some time. Just played it on other person xbox (not mine)
ma guy is comparing a city with even skyscrapers to a town that only has houses and a church 💀💀💀
And he says ¨much nicer¨ when both cities are completely different and shouldn´t be compared.
@@slytheravenx2716 yeah, I like both cities I haven't had a chance to play unbound but the truth is the city and the graphics aren't bad at all Although I like the town a little more, being Mexican I can say that they did the town well, very similar to the real ones
exactly 💀
@@killermacho444 No dude, Guanajuato is not a "town" I've been there twice and I can say even thought Forza did a good job making it, in real life is bigger and way more beautiful, also the Guanajuato shown in the game it's only the historical downtown, it doesn't show the modern part.
@@slytheravenx2716 bruh, as a mexican i tell you that it is a town because originally that is how it was built regardless of whether the land was expanded with modern things
5:29 seems like you're also using the RT self reflection in photography mode
And it surely make the close up view of the GTR on Forza is miles better than Unbound
Both games look great, but from where I'm sitting, it seems a difference between micro and macro. This is especially with the cars. NFS has a much closer focus on the cars themselves due to the extensive customization and the fact you can do bumper deletes and whatnot, so they fit into the 'micro' category here. Meanwhile, FH has focused on the open world more than the individual details of the cars themselves (altho, some of the parts do look better in FH for me, like the rear key slots and badge on the GTR), resulting in a more interesting and cohesive open world.
Their genre also attributes to this, Horizon is a simcade, blending both simulator depth and arcade looseness. This means the open world NEEDS to function relatively realistic or it'll be out of place. NFS is purely arcade, meaning the destruction of the open world isn't necessarily a major priority in the development pipeline.
And the cities are a great example of this as well. NFS's city is 90% boxes and flat roads from what we saw here with some extras to make it more dynamic (the railroad tracks and some elevation changes. And while it makes sense for a big city to look like this, I personally think that more time should have been spent on the dynamisms of the city as a whole and making the building textures seem less flat. Horizon adds so much variability to every building and street, showing the dedication to macro scale.
When I look at Horizon, I can see a fully realized product that could be released as-is (the bugs and stuff at launch notwithstanding, as I am focusing on the graphics here). Meanwhile NFS in my opinion, looks like a high-end tech demo. Flat textures, no major dynamics between each of the buildings and not enough detail within the city itself.
Thank you for coming to my rant. Please, have a complimentary crouton.
Nice opinion
I like more than one crouton plz
@@Savage_7_99 No, only one per reader, only got a limited supply.
Very nice read, and thank you for the crouton
@@ChanceAndTylerShow Why thank you and enjoy the crouton!
3:56 he's not dead, he's calling the insurance hehe
Guanajuato is amazing. People are just used to have modern cities in every racing game. I give props to Playground/Turn10 to try doing something different (including Edinburgh in FH4)
6:07 hold up, i'm actually more surprised that FH5 actually simulated 4-wheel steering???
yes some cars have the rear wheel turning system to help in Forza Horizon 5
The car at 0:38 sounds so good.
7:50, i've seen this mistake in alot of videos, is it that hard to understand that Guanajuato is a town, NOT a city
I never played nfs unbound but the details and graphics are good. NFS never disappoints me!
Looks at 2015 and Payback
@@jollama we should not talk about that game it's been forgotten
@@jollama 2015? No thank you. Worst driving car physics ever made.
@@jollama Me who is still enjoying Payback to this day
@@jollama i still enjoyed payback
I once read an article by playground games. The bots are not supposed to ram you, EXCEPT bots from your friendlist. They are supposed to be more aggrassive.
wasn't that only the case in Motorsport 6 and Horizon 3?
@@audi-71830 At 4, your friends in the offline race in the form of bots ram you
dont forget that forza is 120GB in size and unbound is just 30
Wait Unbound is just 30gb O_o
"just" 30gb 🗿
@@yukasidharta997 30gb aint much considering today standards
@@joaopaulogalloclaudino9671 tell em 🤣
@@ArchieGamez yupp, 31.9 to be exact
Some of the graphics details on the cars specifically appear to come down to shaders used by the devs on a given model or the environment the screenshot was taken in that affects lighting. Because the model itself doesn't appear much different, only how much they obscured details, how bright the shadows are, how bright the light source is, and how reflective they set the paint/metal to. Rough / metal level is literally a slider in these 3D programs, and most of the time when you're doing hard surface modeling and rendering, you're literally just eyeballing it. it depends on exactly what sort of feel they want to capture and what details might be too harsh and distracting for the style they are going for. Forza appears to diminish small details for whatever reason, or maybe just not bump mapping them too much or not contrasting them to the level of Unbound. NFS Unbound is also aggressively stylized with this hybrid of anime and hyper-realism, so it makes sense that they'd turn up the volume on small details. They are definitely there equally in Forza, they're just more blended in, the transparency, bump mapping and metallic levels are just set differently. Good or bad is subjective.
The environments not being that special up close makes sense to me for NFS, the idea is to be going too fast most of the time to notice the flat shrub/grass panels.
Handling-wise, NFS would suck with good physics lol
I'd argue that Unbound looks slightly lower poly count. You can see that the circles look less circular, for instance. But it's only really going to be noticed up close like this. Unbound does seem to dial up the shininess and detail just a tad, I think. It's a little flashier while still looking *pretty* real. Which is pretty NFS.
Great video, keep it up and have a nice day!
4:49 is that weed lol :D
It is
3:13. Wow I feel sorry for the truck driver 😂😂😂
Forza more on the IRL style, and will no doubt be superior no matter what.
NFS does focus on that and stays arcade as it always has been. Graphically both are amazing.
Give me a break with that IRL bullshit. The only IRL thing in Forza is physics and those weren’t designed by Playground. Other than that’s it’s like a fantasy game. A mindblowingly cringy pretense of 'you’re so cool we made a million dollar event just to see you drive around'. All cars are represented by special edition trims. 95% of engine swaps make no sense. V12s in that game either sound like mosquitos or like V6s. And so on and on and on. Horizon 5 to the IRL style is what Skyrim is to martial arts.
@@sarmatiancougar7556 You just said what I just said. Never mentioned anything in regards to anything else but the physics. Everything else is just for show. I even said graphically both are pretty solid. So your rant is unnecessary and made no point whatsoever.
@@oscarfunez3806 kinda did forza is boring and nowhere irl just the handling model so that doesnt make a game superior just overated
@@ridmarajapaksha2669 It's definitely is. It's physics are definitely high up their. Among the best.
@@oscarfunez3806 if that makes a game good, go play beam ng (and Jeah I like that game too, but besides the physics and many mods, beam ng does not have much in comparison to nfs or forza...)
Thanks for the song as you fade away. No la había escuchado jamás.
didnt expect NFS to be more detailed than Forza
its not lol
3:50 At some point, or when you drive, the traffic car starts driving in Need For Speed: Unbound
6:48 cyberpunk/gta trilogy vibes
EVO REALLY SAID I PLAYING MINECRAFT
Horizon's nature footage sounds like a swarm of bees is constantly following the camera.
You were comparing two different versions of Skyline. In Forza Horizon 5 there was a second restyling, and in the NFS Unbound was the first.
That Clean Start at the beginning had me rolling 🤣🤣
The comparison between car models was not really fair considering Forza has had the model since '05 and NFS had that model since '15
Is it just me or did the city at night in nfs have a gta 5 vibe?
at 3:45 when you almost got jabaited by the traffic into hitting a cop 😂😂
What everyone should have in mind is that Unbound has been released not so long ago.
unbound was rushed like all modern nfs games, they basically stripped heat and added new stuff
i'm still a huge nfs fan
@@beeboopboo how was it rushed? They worked on for 3 years thats rushed?
@@youssef1770 It's because EA fired Ghost(The studio for nfs heat) and went back to Criterion(the 2010-2014 games of nfs)
@@beeboopboo Unbound had 3 years of development, rushed is not the correct word, the correct word is experimental, NFS games for years have been throwing a rock at the wall and seeing if it sticked to it, that's why only a few games in the franchise only got sequels (Underground, MW to Carbon and Hot Pursuit for examples)
Ever sense Blackbox got shut down due to EA's constant meddling and blame shifting in their games, NFS games have had an issue with sticking with 1 consistent view and the wide variety of games and fans didn't exactly help either as it was hard to stick to one formula and perfect it.
NFS Payback showed promise and so they stripped it down and made Heat, Heat was a better success but it still required more fundamental core changes to make a new type of NFS game engaging and fun and so we got Unbound, not the perfect NFS game, but a step in the right direction on what progression, risk and rewarding the player should feel for a NFS game, one that we actually haven't felt since MW05 really.
Thankfully Unbound as only just released and it's going to be expanded upon further.....well, if EA doesn't decide to kill it before it can shine like it did with Heat.
The exhaust looking like crap at 5:28 seems like a bug when you put the camera too close in Photo Mode
4:16 nfs looks a bit like red dead redemption 2
Need for Speed: Unbound car models: Laser-scanned since Rivals.
Forza Horizon 5 car models: *65% of them are recycled from Xbox 360 titles while having bad proportions due to being hand-made with the Subaru Impreza WRX 22B (GC8), Nissan Silvia S15 and Skyline R32 GT-R being the worst offenders.*
Honestly I prefer NFS unbound's world, looks much more diverse & appealing for photography. Can't wait to buy it 🔥
bro, forza has forests, blizards, deserts and a town, cant be more diverse than that
@@gigalordjesus2259 I do virtual car photography & I'm being paid for it so ofc the clients won't be satisfied with photos that look repetitive, I use Forza horizon games etc & I need diversity so I end up buying more & more games to offer that 🤣.. FH5 map looks the same in each area, just as an example the entire forest location looks the same no matter where u take the pic, it's all just copy & paste of the same stuff over & over & don't even get me started on that small city, entirely the same.... It's really annoying
@@gigalordjesus2259 because a game has weather effects doesn't mean it looks diverse. FH5 is literally a town, volcano, forest and some hills. NFS's map is smaller but actually does stuff like the city, industrial zone, smaller towns, ski resort, closed fairgrounds, construction sites, cliffs and forests everywhere without needing the flat empty areas
@@bigmooseplays NFS is so fake mate. Literally there is nitro in every car and did your corolla have one. Just play FH5 its just like your everyday driving but you can drive more types and different cars. For experience just play Forza series but for arcade style gameplay then NFS is the one.
@@limyongheng3235 bro said a game's bad because of nitro 💀. You literally buy modified version of the cars and heat could let you remove nitro. Also, Forza's experience is literally a few hours to get everything decent 💀
8:17, Damn, here's the sound reflections from walls, I didnt notice it before
1:56 Dancing SUV😂😂😂
More like susuv
Unbound: Some good ambient sound of nature
Forza:
WEED WACKER NOISE
Oh also: 7:31 rural city...
Forza: WEED WACKER NOISE
Forza horizon 5 has no deal looking as detailed and photorealistic as it does, but thats it, that's all it has, it's such an incredibly beautiful boring game. Unbound is more stylistic, but it has arcade physics to carry the game, and for most people thats more fun to play.
Forza Horizon 5 is a nice looking game and it has great physics. However, it’s a sandbox game and it get can boring pretty quickly due to lack of motivation. NFS Unbound is NOT better than FH5 nor is it even a good NFS game. Bad physics, bad music, bad art style, terrible performance score mechanic.
Nfs has body kits and more visual customization in general, but it has a lot smaller garage.
@user-wx7mx4xw9k may get boring but I'm still signing in every week to get more cars
@@SpeedsonicOddTristan in short, this is your opinion on both games, for me both games have their strengths and weaknesses
FH5 is beautiful and has a very good gameplay mixing arcade with simulator but that's it, boring and empty progression, cars with generic soud and no individuality (the time when FH dominated in graphics is gone) NFS Unbound has much better graphics
NFS Unbound has an average gameplay that's a fact that comes from the older NFS, but it is compensated with very deep customization of cars, sound design of the cars is simply fantastic (all the sound part with the exception of the music is something amazing) graphics is certainly one of the best to date featuring the most immersive and beautiful map in the franchise
but it's my opinion, if it's good or bad that's another story
@@ricardovii6897 no were near a fact for older games i still to this day think that most wanted 05 takes the pedestal of best nfs game of all time still is even with unbound. Unbound looks just as broken as the other recent games just sad man
The bushes turning to confetti on unbound 🤣🤣
Forza horizon 5 is amazing if you have a team to play / race with. I like NFS vibe more but I like Forza physics way better so I usually end up playing Forza. Now I have top 1% lap times on all circuits in the game and I wish there was a more competitive game mode. Guess I'll just wait for Forza Motorsport 8
6:42 as a developer, I literally don't understand why they didn't make crashing into trees atleast slow you down a little, it's not even that hard, I did it in my game like it was nothing.
Well people hate it when you are driving like a boss and a goddamn tree ruins their pace. Realism ain't fun(not always). It's not about how hard implementing stuff is, it's about game feel
Amazing comparison vid. Perfectly entertaining editing. Keep up the work, your channel bout to blow up🔥
Forza literally looks like cars molded from clay with no texture lol
The vibe of the city in NFS seems so much nicer, as in to drive around. Though, FH5 still did a good job :D
Nah fh5 has better cities
My only problem is that forza gets the best graphics and performance playground games really optimised the game while nfs unbound gets performance hits and frame drops for similar looking graphics
3:47 you almost fuuuuucckkkked uuuuupppppp😂😂
5:20 you can actually see how outaded is Forza's car models. Some cars has the same models from Xbox 360 Like that R34
That’s definitely playing on a Xbox one bc on my series s I can literally see the bulb of the headlights and reflections off of the lug nuts in insane detail
FH5 in terms of Car graphics get an extra point for local ray-traced reflections which add more depth and realism to overall look of the car
Forza looks better, but Unbound also looks incredible, just not quite as good. Unbound is my favorite need for speed next to underground 2 and most wanted.
It's not about graphics
It's about fun
Gosto muito da saga nfs, mais o forza tá no nível muito acima em todos aspectos
Tem coisas melhor que o forza sim efeito de agua escorrendo no carro que o forza não tem os vidro dos carro parece vidro e o do forza parece de plastico fora as batidas
Просто эти игры сравнивать довольно странно. Forza- это скорее аркадный симулятор с упором на детализацию и реализм возможно, а nfs- это скорее просто аркада в которой основы это сюжет и развитие. В Forza по сути как такового сюжета та и нет.
@@xbox360jaspion você vai jogar pelo vidro ou pelos carros?
*FH5 sound engineers
- hmmm, add angry bee sounds everywhere.
Unbound is basically animation car game
Unbound fails with that too, i would consider auto modelista as an animation car game
1. Fh5 is chilling but NFS is hardcore.
2. Fh5 focuses on realism but NFS is eye pleasing.
3. Fh5 has better handling and drifting but NFS still follows same drifting mechanics just like its previous entities.
4. Fh5 is cool but NFS is love.
The points you didn’t put in this video: Car exhaust (sound)
Better customisation option
Better upgrades on vehicles
Vehicle collection ,
The video title is logic and graphics not features
The cars in nfs are lower polycount and you can see more obvious straight edges along curves more, but they are more dimensionally accurate more or less, whereas forza's dimension accuracy varies to a point where if you see the real thing often, it takes away from the experience. This particular r34 is one of the not so good ones from forza (and one of the older recycled models) if you're nitpicky, but it's not as bad as their other models.
NFS 2015: "Hold my beer"
DriveClub: "Hold my beer"
Just the inclusion of peds makes the city feel way more alive 🔥
Let's be honest, fh5 graphics are amazing...let's just not talk about the ai
fh 5: "the concept is more real life", nfs unbound: "the concept is more cartoon animation with real time graphics"
NFS Unbound was made for 11-16 year old kids who love anime and Mario Kart physics. FH5 appeals to all styles for all ages.
😂 not at all bro
@@CarTester8754 Yeah, it is 💀
Forza is the one for little kids, that game is boring as hell
@@XeomKY lol
Are u high
1:30 cracked me up man 🤣
fh5 : drift when u have oversteer and skils
nfs : ahahah brake = drift
+1 and true af
My guy hasn't disabled it
Crazy how both of these games have some ex-Burnout devs working on them
Having played both of these for a few days each, I enjoyed NFS more.
NFS unbound looks like something out of "Love Death & Robots"
One is breathtakingly beautifull, has incredible map diversity and heaps of cars, but can get incredibly boring
The other one is bolder and has a bigger emphasis on atmosphere, has way less cars, but puts much more tought and meaning into them, but has questionable physics and is traditionally unpolished.
When did racing games get so good and bad at the same time smh
The bots from Forza 5 is one angry driver
One undeniable fact is that FH5 somehow looks freaking photorealistic. Like there's no game in recent years that looked photorealistic(except for RDR2 but that's an unfair comparison). The vegetation felt like it could be a base for a first person game. While NFS Unbound just looks bad to average at best. It cannot even match upto 2016 NFS. And that's just sad
Note on the AI: Forza's AI is done via deep learning of actual players racing, so it does get a bit fucky at times. The AI will actually ram you and block off you off in certain races and difficulties thanks to half of the Forza community being shameful rammers. I say this as someone who loves the game
Forza horizon 6 will be insane for next-generation
Will not. Forza 5 was too zomer, so devs decided to start their new own game company once again
Horizon's graphics look like the perfect world, what we would like to see... While NPS graphics are the like the real world graphics with a little bit of pollution as well
5:00
In every sequence
forza 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝
NFS 🤫 😶
5:03 this is what far cry 3 felt like to me when I played it for the first time
I bought nfs and deleted the same day😂 u need more than good graphics to be a good game
How did you get the bot to do that at 00:03 ? For me they just stop behind
Horizon games SUCK.
They are devolving so fast that driving physics is the only thing going on for them really. Otherwise it’s the same recycled car list, the same BORING customization, same boring narrow road races, same cheating ai, same utter lack of a sense of speed. As soon as NFS gets rid of btd there’s gonna be no reason to even look at FH. Like really, if you want to play Forza just pick Motorsport 4 or Horizon 1 and don’t bother with Playground games, there’s nothing in there beside for stuff that’s already in previous titles.
For real
Give me a break with that IRL bullshit. The only IRL thing in Forza is physics and those weren’t designed by Playground. Other than that’s it’s like a fantasy game. A mindblowingly cringy pretense of 'you’re so cool we made a million dollar event just to see you drive around'. All cars are represented by special edition trims. 95% of engine swaps make no sense. V12s in that game either sound like mosquitos or like V6s. And so on and on and on. Horizon 5 to the IRL style is what Skyrim is to martial arts.
@@cxlciummmiv dude, why did you copy my comment :D
Great video !
From my experience with Forza Horizon 4 and 5, the traffic does stop for a few seconds if something is in the way, but if they can bypass you without leaving their lane too much, they will eventually do it (for example, if you're slightly on the side of the road). The traffic AI is pretty much unchanged between both games. They do stop at stop signs and indicate their intent with their blinkers, but they do not stop at traffic lights, which are always green, except in the Lego Speed Champions DLC in FH4, which does feature functional traffic lights, with traffic that reacts accordingly.
Vehicle details in Horizon 4 and 5 is pretty stunning for a video game, but if you get familiar with it, and are someone who pay attention to those kinds of details, it's easy to see its flaws, and it's especially worse if you are a car enthusiast, as I've seen a few friends get disappointed with weird details that should or shouldn't have been on some car models. In most cases though, the game does really well on screenshots.
Soy de México y vi que estaría bien que agregaran más ciudades de México porque Guanajuato está bien pero es muy pequeño y creo que les faltó agregar más cosas porque no me gustaría que la gente se lleve una mala impresión de México y que piensen que es Guanajuato tequila y desierto.
3:49 maaaaaan that was close! 😂
Some parts of the car look more detailed in NFS, but the overall look is much better in Forza!
And of course, this also applies to the environment. I play on max settings with my 3080 but still the nature looks like from 2010-16
Even Forza 4 is way, way ahead when it comes to scenery.
Give me a break with that IRL bullshit. The only IRL thing in Forza is physics and those weren’t designed by Playground. Other than that’s it’s like a fantasy game. A mindblowingly cringy pretense of 'you’re so cool we made a million dollar event just to see you drive around'. All cars are represented by special edition trims. 95% of engine swaps make no sense. V12s in that game either sound like mosquitos or like V6s. And so on and on and on. Horizon 5 to the IRL style is what Skyrim is to martial arts.
4:07 is this PUBG???????
Bro proved a point about irrelevant shit lol
What do you consider relevant?
@@thorthegodofthunder9150 this video lol
I just got FH4 and it's incredible game could you do a graphics comparison with needforspeedheat with that game
Forza is something else
Dang the background sound is so obvious when you show the graphics of Forza lmao
forza truly looks cartoony asf huge time and hardcore time.
3:50 I think the cop probably just handle the steering with 1 hand and holding either a donut of cup of coffee on the other hand.. The cop literally dont give an F about what happened..
You see, NFS physics are 200% superior... What other game simulates the front splitter mowing The grass like that? 🤣🤣
Theres no competition in realism and graphics for forza but i like the gameplay of nfs just a little bit more ....both games are super at their own places
forza 100gb nfs 30gb
Bro, why are you doing this? Don't compare the game with Gb. Need for speed was just released. Forza horizon. Look how many months have passed. You came here and you are talking crazy.
@@Nr1_Mnvv Bro chill u r ball's
@@Nr1_Mnvv it’s actually useful information. Forza has way more cars and assets than Unbound….hence why it’s a bigger game. Secondly most people would rather have the extra hard drive space to install more games
Some of the Unbound nature shots looked photo realistic