The third angel blew his trumpet, and a great star fell from heaven, blazing like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water. The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters became wormwood, and many died from the water, because it was made bitter. I always remember season 6 of Dexter when they talk about Wormwood, because of this passage from the book of the apocalypse that they quote lol
So... Fun fact... Wormwood could have had a bomb. There's unused quotes for it, (WX approves), but not a lot of people know about it. Frankly I'm not surprised klei didn't include it. For one it might have just been too much stuff or they couldn't work it in. Or... They might not have wanted to invoke some real-world correlations that his namesake has. (The wikipedia page for the biblical story of the Wormwood Star has a section that... Might make that clear)
I actually think there might be a completely different story for wormwood. The green gem or green gem like object that fell from Alter did not seem to entirely be an intentional choice from Alter, and, in fact, I believe that in lore Alter is still dormant and sleeping until all 3 altars are assembled, with Their process of waking up causing their outer shell to slowly be shed, early on starting with a small gem or two, then getting some decent sized boulders, and finally a whole island and more. As I just stated, I believe the fall of wormwood's gem happened quite early on compared to most other events, and it just happened to land on the Hamlet plateaus in the tropical rainforest. We know a decent period of time passed with the gem sitting there, as the pigs constructed a stone monument for the gem that is ruined by the time wormwood awakes and his origin video shows multiple day and night cycles. Eventually, some vines finally start to grow around them gem, and the mutating power of the lunar magic fuses the gem and makes the vines into a sapient lifeform: wormwood. As for how he got with the other survivors on the mainland, I believe that lore-wise originally all the survivors were in slightly different timelines, universes, or islands (time and space are canonically inconsistent, with the only real singularities we know of being the nightmare throne), but once wilson and maxwell met up they made a machine to try to pull the other survivors into the same place, which worked, but charlie took it over and turned it into the florid postern, as shown by the cyclum puzzles. Some survivors were brought in with the bunch right away, while wormwood and warly did not for still unknown reasons, but eventually were brought through as well. We know that travel between the mainland and hamlet is possible, so wormwood was very much likely not abducted. Also speaking of gemstones, after reading all the survivors quotes, I think I have a pretty good gemstone and Them theory. Gemstones do not have inherent magic of their own, but rather can focus magical energy to their effect or be charged with magical energy. Red gems, although associated with heat, actually seem to focus life force, as shown by the life giving amulet, and fire, life force, and the color red definitely have a connection due to wortox soul colors, and, more importantly, willow's embers, where she can take life force and turn it into fire power. Similarly, blue gems, being opposite to red gems, seem to drain life force, with multiple characters examinations of the chilled amulet mentioning how it only works when placed near the heart and seems to be draining the energy of everything it touches. Purple gems are more straightforward, simply focusing shadow magic and powers. I have found little on orange gems, but their ability is also rather simple, being spatial distortion. Next is the yellow gem, which focuses light magic, again, rather simple. Finally is green gems, I first I thought these were merely construction focusers, but they are far more powerful than that, instead being able to manipulate time. Multiple characters mention that the deconstruction staff reverses time on an object to deconstruct it, and green gems are the only gem other than the purple gem that wanda seems inherently interested, which is fitting as she uses shadow magic and time magic, or purple and green gem magic. Iridescent gems are interesting, in that they are made up of all other gems and are very clearly connected to Alter, and given how Alter has connections to reflections (in the gestalts and pools and just being the moon) and how the iridescent gems are made of all other gems with high level transmutations, I would say that iridescent gems have the power to focus lunar energy to reflect the powers of other gems, so when a star staff is turned into a moon caller's staff, the iridescent gem is using lunar magic to mimic yellow gem magic, but, just as looking into a shining opal will distort the image slightly, so does the moon caller's staff, turning the heat from the light into cooling. Now onto my gem Them theory. Before I start out this theory, I would like to recall the "Them"s we currently know of: Altar, an entity that appears to be a moon, and a shadow entity that, given how shadow stuff seems to come from fissures in the Constant and how the word constant is an antonym of the word alter, the shadow entity is very likely the Constant, an entity that appears to be a planet. Interestingly, we have a gemstone that corresponds to each of Them, with purple for the Constant and iridescent of Alter. I find it quite likely that their is a "Them" tier entity appearing to be an ordinary feature for each type of gemstone, which is responsible for all the weird happenings in the universe the survivors are in. To start, the red and blue gems are unique, as even without transmutation they can be combined into the purple gem, meaning they must be connected to the shadow entity in some way. Fortunately, we already know of a fire and life force related thing that appears to be an ordinary feature but is actually a sapient being, the volcano from shipwrecked. The volcano fits all the points for a red gem entity, being correlated with fire and life force (dragoon hearts being a key part in volcano magic and snackrifices to the volcano), seeming to be an ordinary volcano but very much being sapient, and it is part of the Constant's landmass. Blue gems are a bit more interesting and I do not really have much of an idea on what they could be as I do not believe we ever see Them in game. Given how blue gems are also associated with lunar magic as well, my current main theory is that, just like Earth has a story of colliding with another planet to form its moon, something caused part of the Constant to break of into Alter, but some remaining chunks of rocks remained floating in space, which is associated with being cold and life draining. This would also cause It to be part shadow for purple gem crafting and part lunar for its relations to Alter. Now for the individual entities, purple gems are already explained to be the Constant, so orange gems are next. I find it likely that the orange gem entity is responsible for the spatial inconsistencies that were previously mentioned, and that the orange gem entity has some connection to wormholes (and potentially depth worms given the ancient great depths worm's resemblance) given the ability of wormholes to distort space and teleport you somewhere. A powerful entity that has high visual similarities to wormholes is the Gnaw, a lazy (fitting more with orange gem connections) being that sits around all day and constantly brings in more in more food (kinda like the lazy forager, only the players are the ones grabbing things). The Gnaw also has the power to warp creatures just like Alter and the Constant and can shake the whole island it is sitting over, so it is very likely either the orange gem entity itself or, just like a wormhole, its back end connects to the orange gem entity. Next, and probably a little obviously, if we got the planet and moon as entities, why not include the sun for the yellow gem. The sun provides light and warmth (and sanity kinda, albeit it only removes the natural sanity drain of being on the Constant), just like all yellow gem crafts. As for the green gem entity, I have absolutely no clue for whatever They might be, but They definitely are the reason why time is inconsistent. Now back to Alter, they are the iridescent gem entity, I would argue that their power is not inherently anti-shadow. Rather, just like our moon reflects the sun, Alter can alter itself to reflect the powers of another entity, which is primarily the "sun" of the survivor universe, and because the "sun" has light magic that inherently counters shadow magic, Alter's magic opposes the Constant. There is evidence of Alter being able to reflect other magic as well, with the only example I can name off the top of my head being the aporkalypse, where Alter reflects the magic of the Constant instead.
Funny enough I have been working on a gem theory video that somewhat aligns with what you said but has a few different points and ideas (and should be out sometime in the future), really cool theory though!
Awesome video, I never thought much about aporkalypse as Wormwoods main goal to stop shadows of corrupting moon and bringing shadow forces to the world of hamlet, but it makes sense. I also think that after Charlie fused all characters timelines into one shared Alter moved Wormwood to the main land since in hamlet there was already Wilba or Wheeler to take care of the clock, and after survivors reactivated the portal and dealt with fuelweaver Alter sensed that shadows planning something big, so that it send Wormwood to prevent them from doing so. Also it seems like Wagstaff involvement in messing with alter starts after we collect all 3 lunar altars, like that was Alters main goal to achieve, since wormwood is the only survivor that knows what to do with the knowledge puzzles in archives, it looks like Alter wanted to be awakened but didn't wanted to have its power stolen by Wagstaff when its started attacking survivors as well, with the champion and rift content.
Maybe Wormwood is just a plant creature like the carrats that grew around the gem instead of nearby it, and it was supposed to take over an area of the constant before Wormwood ruined it
These theories are really interesting, but I kinda hope that Wormwood is not an intelligent spy just playing dumb. It wouldn't feel natural since there's no indication of it. You could argue that he's just doing a great job at being a spy but idk Plot twist "villains" can feel really forced when they appear out of nothing. Or at least that's what I think.
"As Wormwood is a playable character." Well so is Wagstaff in single player DS and Maxwell in DS after adventure mode and always in DST. So it seems being playable doesn't neccesarily negate a character from having a big impact on the plot. I mean it's canon that Wilson dethroned Maxwell before getting yeeted back into the Constant so even mr Generic Starter Man has a big impact on the story. On a completely different note, in their Triumphant skins everyone looks well triumphant *except* Wormwood who looks absolutely miserable and like he's in pain. And with the Moonbound skins having being released pretty recently we can see Wormwood looking content and his quote is "Ahhh. Home." I just think these are a neat bit of visual storytelling.
"Maybe Wormwood is a super intelligent being" Also wormwood: "Hello friends! Watching? Hmm... Doo-doo-dee-doop Woo-wah-wah! Deedle-deedle-deedle-woo Wah-wah-wheee! Oop-doodle-doo Bwa-waaaaaaaaaah!"
The third angel blew his trumpet, and a great star fell from heaven, blazing like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water. The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters became wormwood, and many died from the water, because it was made bitter.
I always remember season 6 of Dexter when they talk about Wormwood, because of this passage from the book of the apocalypse that they quote lol
we are being fed fr fr with this 15 minute video
So... Fun fact... Wormwood could have had a bomb. There's unused quotes for it, (WX approves), but not a lot of people know about it.
Frankly I'm not surprised klei didn't include it. For one it might have just been too much stuff or they couldn't work it in. Or... They might not have wanted to invoke some real-world correlations that his namesake has.
(The wikipedia page for the biblical story of the Wormwood Star has a section that... Might make that clear)
Interesting.. thank you WX-78 in a skirt
I actually think there might be a completely different story for wormwood. The green gem or green gem like object that fell from Alter did not seem to entirely be an intentional choice from Alter, and, in fact, I believe that in lore Alter is still dormant and sleeping until all 3 altars are assembled, with Their process of waking up causing their outer shell to slowly be shed, early on starting with a small gem or two, then getting some decent sized boulders, and finally a whole island and more. As I just stated, I believe the fall of wormwood's gem happened quite early on compared to most other events, and it just happened to land on the Hamlet plateaus in the tropical rainforest. We know a decent period of time passed with the gem sitting there, as the pigs constructed a stone monument for the gem that is ruined by the time wormwood awakes and his origin video shows multiple day and night cycles. Eventually, some vines finally start to grow around them gem, and the mutating power of the lunar magic fuses the gem and makes the vines into a sapient lifeform: wormwood. As for how he got with the other survivors on the mainland, I believe that lore-wise originally all the survivors were in slightly different timelines, universes, or islands (time and space are canonically inconsistent, with the only real singularities we know of being the nightmare throne), but once wilson and maxwell met up they made a machine to try to pull the other survivors into the same place, which worked, but charlie took it over and turned it into the florid postern, as shown by the cyclum puzzles. Some survivors were brought in with the bunch right away, while wormwood and warly did not for still unknown reasons, but eventually were brought through as well. We know that travel between the mainland and hamlet is possible, so wormwood was very much likely not abducted.
Also speaking of gemstones, after reading all the survivors quotes, I think I have a pretty good gemstone and Them theory. Gemstones do not have inherent magic of their own, but rather can focus magical energy to their effect or be charged with magical energy. Red gems, although associated with heat, actually seem to focus life force, as shown by the life giving amulet, and fire, life force, and the color red definitely have a connection due to wortox soul colors, and, more importantly, willow's embers, where she can take life force and turn it into fire power. Similarly, blue gems, being opposite to red gems, seem to drain life force, with multiple characters examinations of the chilled amulet mentioning how it only works when placed near the heart and seems to be draining the energy of everything it touches. Purple gems are more straightforward, simply focusing shadow magic and powers. I have found little on orange gems, but their ability is also rather simple, being spatial distortion. Next is the yellow gem, which focuses light magic, again, rather simple. Finally is green gems, I first I thought these were merely construction focusers, but they are far more powerful than that, instead being able to manipulate time. Multiple characters mention that the deconstruction staff reverses time on an object to deconstruct it, and green gems are the only gem other than the purple gem that wanda seems inherently interested, which is fitting as she uses shadow magic and time magic, or purple and green gem magic. Iridescent gems are interesting, in that they are made up of all other gems and are very clearly connected to Alter, and given how Alter has connections to reflections (in the gestalts and pools and just being the moon) and how the iridescent gems are made of all other gems with high level transmutations, I would say that iridescent gems have the power to focus lunar energy to reflect the powers of other gems, so when a star staff is turned into a moon caller's staff, the iridescent gem is using lunar magic to mimic yellow gem magic, but, just as looking into a shining opal will distort the image slightly, so does the moon caller's staff, turning the heat from the light into cooling.
Now onto my gem Them theory. Before I start out this theory, I would like to recall the "Them"s we currently know of: Altar, an entity that appears to be a moon, and a shadow entity that, given how shadow stuff seems to come from fissures in the Constant and how the word constant is an antonym of the word alter, the shadow entity is very likely the Constant, an entity that appears to be a planet. Interestingly, we have a gemstone that corresponds to each of Them, with purple for the Constant and iridescent of Alter. I find it quite likely that their is a "Them" tier entity appearing to be an ordinary feature for each type of gemstone, which is responsible for all the weird happenings in the universe the survivors are in. To start, the red and blue gems are unique, as even without transmutation they can be combined into the purple gem, meaning they must be connected to the shadow entity in some way. Fortunately, we already know of a fire and life force related thing that appears to be an ordinary feature but is actually a sapient being, the volcano from shipwrecked. The volcano fits all the points for a red gem entity, being correlated with fire and life force (dragoon hearts being a key part in volcano magic and snackrifices to the volcano), seeming to be an ordinary volcano but very much being sapient, and it is part of the Constant's landmass. Blue gems are a bit more interesting and I do not really have much of an idea on what they could be as I do not believe we ever see Them in game. Given how blue gems are also associated with lunar magic as well, my current main theory is that, just like Earth has a story of colliding with another planet to form its moon, something caused part of the Constant to break of into Alter, but some remaining chunks of rocks remained floating in space, which is associated with being cold and life draining. This would also cause It to be part shadow for purple gem crafting and part lunar for its relations to Alter. Now for the individual entities, purple gems are already explained to be the Constant, so orange gems are next. I find it likely that the orange gem entity is responsible for the spatial inconsistencies that were previously mentioned, and that the orange gem entity has some connection to wormholes (and potentially depth worms given the ancient great depths worm's resemblance) given the ability of wormholes to distort space and teleport you somewhere. A powerful entity that has high visual similarities to wormholes is the Gnaw, a lazy (fitting more with orange gem connections) being that sits around all day and constantly brings in more in more food (kinda like the lazy forager, only the players are the ones grabbing things). The Gnaw also has the power to warp creatures just like Alter and the Constant and can shake the whole island it is sitting over, so it is very likely either the orange gem entity itself or, just like a wormhole, its back end connects to the orange gem entity. Next, and probably a little obviously, if we got the planet and moon as entities, why not include the sun for the yellow gem. The sun provides light and warmth (and sanity kinda, albeit it only removes the natural sanity drain of being on the Constant), just like all yellow gem crafts. As for the green gem entity, I have absolutely no clue for whatever They might be, but They definitely are the reason why time is inconsistent. Now back to Alter, they are the iridescent gem entity, I would argue that their power is not inherently anti-shadow. Rather, just like our moon reflects the sun, Alter can alter itself to reflect the powers of another entity, which is primarily the "sun" of the survivor universe, and because the "sun" has light magic that inherently counters shadow magic, Alter's magic opposes the Constant. There is evidence of Alter being able to reflect other magic as well, with the only example I can name off the top of my head being the aporkalypse, where Alter reflects the magic of the Constant instead.
Funny enough I have been working on a gem theory video that somewhat aligns with what you said but has a few different points and ideas (and should be out sometime in the future), really cool theory though!
@@polarlotus Thanks! Can't wait to see it
Awesome video, I never thought much about aporkalypse as Wormwoods main goal to stop shadows of corrupting moon and bringing shadow forces to the world of hamlet, but it makes sense. I also think that after Charlie fused all characters timelines into one shared Alter moved Wormwood to the main land since in hamlet there was already Wilba or Wheeler to take care of the clock, and after survivors reactivated the portal and dealt with fuelweaver Alter sensed that shadows planning something big, so that it send Wormwood to prevent them from doing so. Also it seems like Wagstaff involvement in messing with alter starts after we collect all 3 lunar altars, like that was Alters main goal to achieve, since wormwood is the only survivor that knows what to do with the knowledge puzzles in archives, it looks like Alter wanted to be awakened but didn't wanted to have its power stolen by Wagstaff when its started attacking survivors as well, with the champion and rift content.
11:30 Maybe Wormwood should have fallen down to the GOG world, but the flying islands got in the way. 🙂
I think I know,
Wormwood… is a plant!
to me wormwood is just An amalgam of vines given sentience by lunar magic, Wormwood searches for friends so he can finally belong.
And he will never find friends just like you :)
I know what they are, my favorite scruncle
Maybe Wormwood is just a plant creature like the carrats that grew around the gem instead of nearby it, and it was supposed to take over an area of the constant before Wormwood ruined it
The real question is who is the hollow knight?
These theories are really interesting, but I kinda hope that Wormwood is not an intelligent spy just playing dumb. It wouldn't feel natural since there's no indication of it. You could argue that he's just doing a great job at being a spy but idk
Plot twist "villains" can feel really forced when they appear out of nothing. Or at least that's what I think.
Luckily I don’t think he is, I was just exploring another possible angle
I do think wormwood is far more intelligent than he comes off as though!
It’s my wormy Boi!
Huh... that last theory seems a bit random. I wonder who came up with it.
OKAY BUT YOU CANT DISPROVE IT THOUGH!!!
"As Wormwood is a playable character."
Well so is Wagstaff in single player DS and Maxwell in DS after adventure mode and always in DST. So it seems being playable doesn't neccesarily negate a character from having a big impact on the plot. I mean it's canon that Wilson dethroned Maxwell before getting yeeted back into the Constant so even mr Generic Starter Man has a big impact on the story.
On a completely different note, in their Triumphant skins everyone looks well triumphant *except* Wormwood who looks absolutely miserable and like he's in pain. And with the Moonbound skins having being released pretty recently we can see Wormwood looking content and his quote is "Ahhh. Home." I just think these are a neat bit of visual storytelling.
14:54 ah yes, the Pew-matic horn, 2. Compass, post possessd bosses blow dart set piece.
Wormwood gives off MASSIVE Guilmon energy.
If you need tips for wormwood I’ll be there on tomorrow’s stream
What is that intro bru is blud shakespeare????
Wormwood and the constant custody battle
Wormwood and the constant custody battle
Another good vid, The sponser is going to good use I see
wormwood is living tree bro
"Maybe Wormwood is a super intelligent being"
Also wormwood:
"Hello friends!
Watching? Hmm...
Doo-doo-dee-doop
Woo-wah-wah!
Deedle-deedle-deedle-woo
Wah-wah-wheee!
Oop-doodle-doo
Bwa-waaaaaaaaaah!"
He's intelligent for a plant 😤
Freakwood 💔
11:38 but I liked the last part of it as wormwood is secretly the final boss
And also a doom's day device
it's a worm made of wood, i thought that would be obvious
ermsies first
1 view from 2 minutes ago. fell off.
dang so close 😔