i have a different idea for death in the constant, my theory is that when you die, your soul/ghost leaves your body, when you revive, you get a new body based off the one your first after entering the constant and your ghost enters that new one. the health penalty exists because all resurrection methods have shadow magic on them, never lunar magic or any other magic.
@@chonflis3834 Well it's crafted with beard hair and beard hair can be obtained by not only shaving, but also beardlings, which are pretty much the shadow variant of rabbits, so there's a possibility that the beard could somehow be related to shadows.
As I said in Purplex08's video: "The characters in Don't Starve are constantly compared to chess pieces. When you re-arrange the chess pieces after a match is over, you're technically reviving them, and the same logic is applied to the survivors, that could explain why them dying and being resurrected multiple times is canon."
I've always been intrigued why Klei chose the name *Constant* out of everything they could have called it. I don't think they chose it on a whim but I'm not sure how big a role the name plays. For all we know it could be what the survivors or *one* of them call it. I don't remember where I saw it but isn't it implied/mentioned that the names in game are given to things by the survivors and/or Maxwell/Charlie (whoever controls the Throne at the time)? Which is why some things have such basic/dumb names as Tallbird, Rocklobster and Science Machine. I'm pretty sure the last one is canonically invented by Wilson and Science Machine is just the kind of name he would call something like that. "Everyone, look what I have created!" "What is it?" "A Science Machine!" "What does it do?" "It does *science* of course!" C'mon that sounds exactly like how Wilson reasons, he is so smart but at the same time so dumb. I love him, for being the generic/default character he has quite a lot of character to him, even if we only go by in game quotes from the OG Don't Starve. "That is a perfectly reasonable piece of clothing." - Wilson when examining a Log Suit.
I actually found a Theory on why the constant is named that! I have it somewhere in these comments, so I won’t over explain, but Essentially, The name of the land and underground “Constant” is actually the name of the shadow side, as a counterpart to alter, the light and moon, And that "Them" in Don't Starve lore could refer to at minimum, these two opposing entities, rather than just one. The theorist, first wondered why the lunar side was named “alter”, and why we don’t know the shadow side’s name. This theory then looks at the contrasting elements between the moon-related elements (Alter) and the shadowy, underground-based elements (Constants): The lunar side is associated with light, change, and reflection, while shadows are linked to darkness, stasis, and the underground. The moon's power is seen in the form of the lunar cycle, and the Constant's power is reflected in the nightmare cycle. It then looked at what the definition of what alter means: to change, modify or transmute, and then looked at what could be the opposite of that: to stay the same, uniform, stable, or To stay… constant. This theory also could potentially suggest that the goals and motivations of each side based off their names: the shadow forces in the game might represent order (constant), seeking to maintain the status quo, while the lunar forces symbolize chaos and change (alter). Anyways, the credit goes to @pixellover2795 for writing the original theory, along with @TrOlliPop and @adampozzobon5193 ‘s interesting replies, And you can find the original comments in the comment section of “the daywalker theory by slasher 342”!
I mean i think the constant is named that because it’s separated from the real world, and time moves differently between the two realms of existence. I think the constant is just another plane of existence that is completely severed from the real world
The constant could be a personal hell, like in single player, but thanks to the florid postern every character get's to the same hell, the only exception would be willson falling into maxwell's constant, but it could be explained by Willson being trown into maxwell's hell by charlie
I think that constant might actually be something like a backrooms, pocket reality for shadows. You i think it makes sense why Bob Staffwag is trying to use lunar magic instead of shadow. It think that everything that contacts with the shadows in real world makes a portal tо the constant, losing it's original powers, and instead combining itself with the item in real world. Like the Wagstaff projector, or the codex umbra which is probably just a normal book, but infused with shadows.
Has everyone been ver noticed there’s an alchemy engine at 10:07 on the right hand side behind Webber? Meaning alchemy engines were also brought back from the constant, or are from the real world, idk how this helps any theories but it’s interesting
I would like to add that in singleplayer DS, the survivors are first shown within coffins while they're locked, something that certainly gives strength to the hell theory. Even the way you unlock Webber in the first game is very suggestive. That considered, could it be that Charlie is another reinterpretation of Beatrice? You know... Don't Starve To-Get-Her... then Maxwell would actually be Dante... Honestly, it seems like a big stretch, but I do believe Klei Intentionally spread references like these on purpose, as a fun metanliguistic way of telling stories, same thing with how the game uses the duality of shadow and gestalt, both being terms of psychology, which doesn't necessarily mean the Constant is canonically a psychological universe (but it could be, considering the paper-like style DS has and the fact Maxwell and Charlie first get into the constant through a book). As a final note, I believe one of the keys to understanding what is the constant probably lies within symbolic understanding and the comprehension of what They mean. Both the shadow part and the lunar part. I plan on taking some time to make a theory of my own regarding all of that. One last thing, the Constant's symbol is a spiral, the meaning is pretty intuitive.
I don’t think the constant is hell, but more of a hellish place. It isn’t ruled by satan as a punishment for sinners, but it is ran by mysterious gods or otherwise eldritch entities who toy with people based on grudges and mysteries reasons. Like how the saw movies are hell even though the traps and kidnapping are not divine
Was thinking more of Hel, the underworld when thinking of that. Hell itself is not a place, just an end. It is however, conflated with the above. To quote a redditor: MMCStatement: "Jesus tells us not to fear man but fear God who destroys body and soul in hell. If Jesus is to be trusted.. and I definitely believe he is.. he is telling us that hell is non existence. Permanent banishment from his kingdom."
The multiverse theory is just outright correct. We see it in the Gorge and the Forge, and we see portals opened from the Constant to the "real world". The Constant isn't Hell - Wagstaff's able to go in and out of it with ease, They aren't divine or infernal (demons like Wortox are another thing entirely), and the seven levels of Adventure Mode being a parallel to Dante's Inferno's nine circles is kind of a reach. Also, Wanda's dialogue constantly implies branching timelines.
Leave it to me to forget to mention one of the most popular theories, the constant is a time loop. However I don't think this theory is correct, here's why. A temporal loop would not explain why time seems to advance within the constant, we know that time goes forward in the constant because of the events of don't starve and dont starve together, if it were a temporal loop then everything would stay the mostly the same because survivor death is canon within the don't starve universe It also opens a lot of paradoxical issues with don't starve together, shared temporal loops cant really exist as if one person were to die then their time would be different than everyone elses, it could go hand in hand with the multiverse theory, but on its own its unfeasible. And yes, I know its called the "constant" which would suggest that time is constant, however time has proven to be anything but constant in the constant, so its very likely a play on words which is something klei loves to do (don't starve is a game where food is the least of your problems)
The constant is one of my favorite names for a fictional dimension to this day. It sounds like an unstable entity that does not stop generating, growing and will forever keep on existing.
I think it’s kinda like a simulation but not entirely, since Maxwell can only control shadows and it said only that he made the Constant and not how, I think it’s entirely possible that Maxwell somehow made the world entirely out of Shadows and made them think they where something specific, like making a shadow fully believe that it is a Spider, Science Machine, or Hambat
Another curious thing about the Hell theory, what about warly and winona? Warly hasn't done anything (probably) terrible and far from doing a Deal with Maxwell/Devil, he was just straight up kidnapped. Winona, same thing, no deals were made and it's more of a kidnap scenario, plus she was trying to save someone, this is not the kind of act that would lead someone to hell (given how she was first going for Wagstaff being sucked into the portal and not Charlie since she only appeared after Winona failed to save him). Wes? a pure saint and you can't even suggest the "going where you shouldn't, doing what you shouldn't" argument since he was just running away from some crows and stumbled upon the shadow hands guiltlessly. So even if there are arguments to the Winona and Wes situation, Warly just seems off nonetheless.
Wait, so according to quantum immortality, it's canon to use rollbacks in dst when I keep failing my minimal prep ruins rush? That would mean I'm just roleplaying the 99% scenarios where I fail until I get to the one reality where I succeed in it.
i have a different idea for death in the constant, my theory is that when you die, your soul/ghost leaves your body, when you revive, you get a new body based off the one your first after entering the constant and your ghost enters that new one. the health penalty exists because all resurrection methods have shadow magic on them, never lunar magic or any other magic.
Not the meat effigy tho wilson cooked wit that one
@@chonflis3834 Well it's crafted with beard hair and beard hair can be obtained by not only shaving, but also beardlings, which are pretty much the shadow variant of rabbits, so there's a possibility that the beard could somehow be related to shadows.
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As I said in Purplex08's video:
"The characters in Don't Starve are constantly compared to chess pieces. When you re-arrange the chess pieces after a match is over, you're technically reviving them, and the same logic is applied to the survivors, that could explain why them dying and being resurrected multiple times is canon."
Oooh! That actually explains a lot, thematically!
I've always been intrigued why Klei chose the name *Constant* out of everything they could have called it. I don't think they chose it on a whim but I'm not sure how big a role the name plays. For all we know it could be what the survivors or *one* of them call it. I don't remember where I saw it but isn't it implied/mentioned that the names in game are given to things by the survivors and/or Maxwell/Charlie (whoever controls the Throne at the time)? Which is why some things have such basic/dumb names as Tallbird, Rocklobster and Science Machine. I'm pretty sure the last one is canonically invented by Wilson and Science Machine is just the kind of name he would call something like that.
"Everyone, look what I have created!"
"What is it?"
"A Science Machine!"
"What does it do?"
"It does *science* of course!"
C'mon that sounds exactly like how Wilson reasons, he is so smart but at the same time so dumb. I love him, for being the generic/default character he has quite a lot of character to him, even if we only go by in game quotes from the OG Don't Starve.
"That is a perfectly reasonable piece of clothing." - Wilson when examining a Log Suit.
I actually found a Theory on why the constant is named that! I have it somewhere in these comments, so I won’t over explain, but Essentially, The name of the land and underground “Constant” is actually the name of the shadow side, as a counterpart to alter, the light and moon, And that "Them" in Don't Starve lore could refer to at minimum, these two opposing entities, rather than just one.
The theorist, first wondered why the lunar side was named “alter”, and why we don’t know the shadow side’s name.
This theory then looks at the contrasting elements between the moon-related elements (Alter) and the shadowy, underground-based elements (Constants): The lunar side is associated with light, change, and reflection, while shadows are linked to darkness, stasis, and the underground. The moon's power is seen in the form of the lunar cycle, and the Constant's power is reflected in the nightmare cycle.
It then looked at what the definition of what alter means: to change, modify or transmute, and then looked at what could be the opposite of that: to stay the same, uniform, stable, or To stay… constant.
This theory also could potentially suggest that the goals and motivations of each side based off their names: the shadow forces in the game might represent order (constant), seeking to maintain the status quo, while the lunar forces symbolize chaos and change (alter).
Anyways, the credit goes to @pixellover2795 for writing the original theory, along with @TrOlliPop and @adampozzobon5193 ‘s interesting replies, And you can find the original comments in the comment section of “the daywalker theory by slasher 342”!
I mean i think the constant is named that because it’s separated from the real world, and time moves differently between the two realms of existence. I think the constant is just another plane of existence that is completely severed from the real world
The constant could be a personal hell, like in single player, but thanks to the florid postern every character get's to the same hell, the only exception would be willson falling into maxwell's constant, but it could be explained by Willson being trown into maxwell's hell by charlie
I think that constant might actually be something like a backrooms, pocket reality for shadows. You i think it makes sense why Bob Staffwag is trying to use lunar magic instead of shadow. It think that everything that contacts with the shadows in real world makes a portal tо the constant, losing it's original powers, and instead combining itself with the item in real world. Like the Wagstaff projector, or the codex umbra which is probably just a normal book, but infused with shadows.
Interesting! Never heard of this take before! Very cool!
Don't forget about the ancients and their ties to shadow fuel!
The constant is the friends we made along the way
Has everyone been ver noticed there’s an alchemy engine at 10:07 on the right hand side behind Webber? Meaning alchemy engines were also brought back from the constant, or are from the real world, idk how this helps any theories but it’s interesting
Yahooo new vid!! Omw to watch it
Also the thumbnail art is really cool :DD
I don't know, but the name is really cool :v
omg i thought the title said croissant im dying😭😭😭
No way i found this before the discord notification
What if klei actually made a simulation where they sucked real people into it and then made a game about it
That means that i cuald have meet willson in real life but now i can't
Oh god, it's out
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You don’t need to apologize for sections being paced ”incorrectly”. This was a really interesting video!
I would like to add that in singleplayer DS, the survivors are first shown within coffins while they're locked, something that certainly gives strength to the hell theory. Even the way you unlock Webber in the first game is very suggestive. That considered, could it be that Charlie is another reinterpretation of Beatrice? You know... Don't Starve To-Get-Her... then Maxwell would actually be Dante... Honestly, it seems like a big stretch, but I do believe Klei Intentionally spread references like these on purpose, as a fun metanliguistic way of telling stories, same thing with how the game uses the duality of shadow and gestalt, both being terms of psychology, which doesn't necessarily mean the Constant is canonically a psychological universe (but it could be, considering the paper-like style DS has and the fact Maxwell and Charlie first get into the constant through a book).
As a final note, I believe one of the keys to understanding what is the constant probably lies within symbolic understanding and the comprehension of what They mean. Both the shadow part and the lunar part. I plan on taking some time to make a theory of my own regarding all of that. One last thing, the Constant's symbol is a spiral, the meaning is pretty intuitive.
I don’t think the constant is hell, but more of a hellish place. It isn’t ruled by satan as a punishment for sinners, but it is ran by mysterious gods or otherwise eldritch entities who toy with people based on grudges and mysteries reasons. Like how the saw movies are hell even though the traps and kidnapping are not divine
Was thinking more of Hel, the underworld when thinking of that.
Hell itself is not a place, just an end. It is however, conflated with the above.
To quote a redditor:
MMCStatement:
"Jesus tells us not to fear man but fear God who destroys body and soul in hell. If Jesus is to be trusted.. and I definitely believe he is.. he is telling us that hell is non existence. Permanent banishment from his kingdom."
The multiverse theory is just outright correct. We see it in the Gorge and the Forge, and we see portals opened from the Constant to the "real world". The Constant isn't Hell - Wagstaff's able to go in and out of it with ease, They aren't divine or infernal (demons like Wortox are another thing entirely), and the seven levels of Adventure Mode being a parallel to Dante's Inferno's nine circles is kind of a reach. Also, Wanda's dialogue constantly implies branching timelines.
Leave it to me to forget to mention one of the most popular theories, the constant is a time loop. However I don't think this theory is correct, here's why.
A temporal loop would not explain why time seems to advance within the constant, we know that time goes forward in the constant because of the events of don't starve and dont starve together, if it were a temporal loop then everything would stay the mostly the same because survivor death is canon within the don't starve universe
It also opens a lot of paradoxical issues with don't starve together, shared temporal loops cant really exist as if one person were to die then their time would be different than everyone elses, it could go hand in hand with the multiverse theory, but on its own its unfeasible.
And yes, I know its called the "constant" which would suggest that time is constant, however time has proven to be anything but constant in the constant, so its very likely a play on words which is something klei loves to do (don't starve is a game where food is the least of your problems)
First time seeing somebody to note that even the name of the game is a play of words...XD
The constant is one of my favorite names for a fictional dimension to this day. It sounds like an unstable entity that does not stop generating, growing and will forever keep on existing.
I think it’s kinda like a simulation but not entirely, since Maxwell can only control shadows and it said only that he made the Constant and not how, I think it’s entirely possible that Maxwell somehow made the world entirely out of Shadows and made them think they where something specific, like making a shadow fully believe that it is a Spider, Science Machine, or Hambat
18:30 Don't worry to I will never pick up a stick since that means going outsilde
14:34 in islam, hell has 7 layers
Enjoyed the vid a lot, enjoyed this style of video should do more like it
7:26 wow skibdi toilet wilson
the grue is coming
AGH!! SOMETHING BIT ME!!
Another curious thing about the Hell theory, what about warly and winona? Warly hasn't done anything (probably) terrible and far from doing a Deal with Maxwell/Devil, he was just straight up kidnapped.
Winona, same thing, no deals were made and it's more of a kidnap scenario, plus she was trying to save someone, this is not the kind of act that would lead someone to hell (given how she was first going for Wagstaff being sucked into the portal and not Charlie since she only appeared after Winona failed to save him).
Wes? a pure saint and you can't even suggest the "going where you shouldn't, doing what you shouldn't" argument since he was just running away from some crows and stumbled upon the shadow hands guiltlessly.
So even if there are arguments to the Winona and Wes situation, Warly just seems off nonetheless.
Wait, so according to quantum immortality, it's canon to use rollbacks in dst when I keep failing my minimal prep ruins rush? That would mean I'm just roleplaying the 99% scenarios where I fail until I get to the one reality where I succeed in it.
Me when i see people picturing hell as hot while in Dante's inferno its clearly cold
Polar is going insane like matpat whit this one🗣🔥
pls read wanda s quotes for willow.
I love lore videos
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So basically
The constant is like the entity from dead by daylight
I think i found some Polorelotus