Elegant Drilling & Combination Guns

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  • Опубліковано 20 гру 2024

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  • @robertscott2210
    @robertscott2210 Рік тому +28

    It would have been nice if you had mentioned the calibers/gauges of these guns. They're probably some weird unobtainium European metric calibers.

    • @RockIslandAuctionCompany
      @RockIslandAuctionCompany  Рік тому +27

      In order:
      The Merkel is in 12 gauge over 7x65R.
      The Sodia is in 16 gauge over 7x65R with the .222 Remington on the side.
      The second Sodia is in 12 gauge over .270 Winchester
      The Bury is dual ".35 W" rifle barrels over a 28 gauge.
      The Westley Richards is in .22 RF over dual .410 bore barrels.

    • @robertscott2210
      @robertscott2210 Рік тому +9

      @@RockIslandAuctionCompany
      Not as much unobtainium as I expected, thanks 👍

  • @Kremit_the_Forg
    @Kremit_the_Forg Рік тому +10

    If anyone is interessted in the terminology:
    Büchse refers to a rifled barrel.
    Flinte refers to a non-rifled barrel.
    Bock in german refers to a variaty of things. Bock is a male deer. Or a stool. The verb aufbocken means to jack something up or to act up...
    In context it just refers to the arrangement of barrels. If a weapon bears the prefix Bock- it's an over&under. The suffix describes the actual "gun", for example a Bockbüchse is an over&under with two rifled barrels. A Bockflinte is an over&under shotgun with two barrels.
    TECHNICALLY it would be Bockdoppelbüchse and Bockdoppelflinte, because we Germans are very VERY pedantic. The -doppel - just means double. So the word Bockdoppelbüchse tells you it is a gun, with two rifled barrels, one vertically above the other.
    BUT even we acknowledge that this is a bit too much and since no one would build a rifle or a shotgun with more than two barrels vertically above each other, the added -doppel - isn't very common anymore.
    A side by side shotgun would be a Querflinte, "Quer" meaning across. OR it could be Doppelflinte, doublebarrel(shotgun) because why not. A side by side rifle funny enough is just called Doppelbüchse. Not Querbüchse. Never. I don't know why, would be too logical I guess.
    Still reading? Ok.
    Now what if there is a mix between rifled and non-rifled? Easy, just add the words.
    A Bockbüchsflinte refers to a vertically aligned pair of barrels, one rifled, one not. "Aha! So Bock meaning one above the other, büchs meaning rifled and flinte meaning non-rifled(shotgun) sooo it has the rifled barrel above the shotgun barrel?"
    No. The shotgunbarrel is always above the rifled barrel. Why isn't it called Bockflintenbüchse then? Ssssshhhh.... Don't think about it.
    Soooo.... This is getting too long. Brace yourselfs:
    Drilling: two non-rifled barrels above one rifled barrel in an upsidedown triangle
    Doppelbüchsdrilling: two rifled barrels above one non-rifled barrel in an upsidedown triangle (See?!?! It doesn't make sense!!!)
    Bockdrilling: one non-rifled barrel on top, one large caliber rifled barrel bellow, vertically aligned and one small caliber rifled barrel set between both vertically aligned barrels off to one side (usually left)
    Aaaand for good measure:
    Bergstutzen: two rifled barrels, vertically aligned above each other, the smaller caliber on top. Because Berg meaning mountain. And it looks like one. Get it?
    You might think that's all a bit too much and that the Germans are crazy... to that I say:
    I refuse to elaborate to (and in) a language that knows only "the" instead of der, die and das and uses "you" in a friendly AND formal way instead of "Du" und "Sie".
    Good day, Sir (or Ma'am)

    • @jacktheaviator4938
      @jacktheaviator4938 Рік тому

      Isn't the common pronunciation of drilling wrong also? I was told that it is from "drei" so it should be pronounced with a long "e" in the first syllable.

    • @datup09
      @datup09 Рік тому +2

      @@jacktheaviator4938 No, its pronounced drill- (like your Makita) -ing. The DRI does refer to the number 3 (DREI) - which is pronounced like the word "dry" - but its spelling and pronunciation is changed here. Same happens to the word for the number 2 (ZWEI) in the word Zwilling (Twins). LOL - wrote this same post under another video about German combination guns. Glad to hear people are interested in the correct pronunciation :D

    • @jacktheaviator4938
      @jacktheaviator4938 Рік тому

      @@datup09 that's very peculiar, I have a good friend who is a gunsmith in Munich, and he uses a long "I" when he says drilling, he is the one who corrected me. So no offense, but I think I will go with the pronunciation used by a man who builds rifles in Germany.

    • @datup09
      @datup09 Рік тому +2

      @@jacktheaviator4938 So he said dr-iii-ling? That must be the Bavarian accent. I am a hunter from a town near Düsseldorf and have never heard it said this way. The spelling also does not support this pronunciation.
      EDIT. to get a long "E" sound the spelling would have to be Dr-IH-ling. The "h" after the "i" lengthens the vowel. But a word spelled with only an "i", followed by a double consonant ("ll" in this case) indicates a shortened, de-emphasized vowel. Unlike in English, in German spelling is a direct indication of pronunciation (some exceptions of course). So "i-ll" will be pronounced like "drill" and "ih-l" will sound like "deal".

    • @jacktheaviator4938
      @jacktheaviator4938 Рік тому

      @@datup09 IDK if it is reginal accent, but I just got off the phone with him, and he said the only time he hears anyone pronounce it like "drill" is when he runs across an English speaker.

  • @chiliprepper7678
    @chiliprepper7678 Рік тому +2

    I really enjoyed the engravings. Thank you. 😀

  • @Bænik
    @Bænik 7 місяців тому +5

    Fun story about these things; when my grandfather was in his 20’s, he was gifted a beautiful 12/12/8x57R drilling. On one hung he had a 196 gr. Soft-point, and two shells of 7.5 birdshot. Soon, one of the biggest bucks he’d ever see came strolling up, and he pulled the wrong trigger. At 50 YARDS that buck fell instantly from just 7.5 shot.
    NOTE: DO NOT TRY AT HOME, HE GOT LUCKY!

    • @Darthdoodoo
      @Darthdoodoo Місяць тому

      Unbelievable... I don't believe it 😂😂

  • @brianpencall4882
    @brianpencall4882 Рік тому +4

    Very nice firearms.
    Please tell us what the gauges and calibers are.
    I would have watched the whole video if those had been included.

  • @Darthdoodoo
    @Darthdoodoo Місяць тому +1

    Why do they have to make them so awesome, ill never be able to afford one😂

  • @mohammedcohen
    @mohammedcohen Рік тому +3

    ...saw my first drilling when I was stationed in Germany - 50 years ago (1971 - 1974) - the manager of the post (Illesheim) Rod & Gun club said his GF's dad had a vierling...

  • @ryanjones4917
    @ryanjones4917 Рік тому +3

    Are the calibers listed somewhere?

  • @Schopenhauer667
    @Schopenhauer667 8 місяців тому +2

    There is a 2 rifle barrel Drilling in the game Hunt: Showdown.

    • @petrameyer1121
      @petrameyer1121 3 місяці тому +1

      That is called a Büchsdrilling.

  • @jjrigdon5773
    @jjrigdon5773 Рік тому +3

    Be nice to hear gauge or caliber

  • @MrPh30
    @MrPh30 Рік тому +1

    OU drilling is called BockDrilling

  • @TreeBarkSide
    @TreeBarkSide Рік тому

    M30 Drilling is my favorite, but the ammo is so hard to find (and expensive).

  • @peterbenoit1345
    @peterbenoit1345 Місяць тому

    Happy to live in Europe! FN lost his value when Browning took over. Happely i still have two FN originals ❤

  • @icantaim4sht836
    @icantaim4sht836 Рік тому

    I'm just here to see if the Drilling in Sniper Elite 4 was real.