It's hard to believe this was published in 2014. Not only was this graphically one of the best-looking games of that era, but it holds _extremely_ well to this day, in 2023. Heck, look at almost any game published this year and tell me it looks even close to this good.
I think that was intentional for 2 reasons. Reason #1 cause Venom isn’t Big Boss. We know that Big Boss is talkative, even in the truth ending, the real Big Boss talks a good amount. Reason #2 Kojima wanted Venom to be an extension of the player this time.
@@lordrathut I think because it takes part after the TRUTH ending, we see Venom finally be able to understand and assert himself. I mean he is basically an amnesiac for most of the Phantom Pain
Metal gear solid has the craziest story ever i cant believe how complex yet so awesome the story progressed and finished at the end with guns of patriots Its an experience kojima is a genious
I remember watching my older brother play this game. And him being in disbelief when the credits rolled. Finding out the game after all this time has been satisfying, core memory unlocked
@@retardsgaminggroup i agree. i-also really-effing-hate that the cassette-tapes we got in Ground-Zeroes (including the-music-tapes), we couldn't listen to them in Phantom Pain :-(
Ground Zeroes feels more like a tie up to Peace Walker (Which i aint huge fan of). But if you never have played Peace Walker ,then Ground Zeroes aint all that important.
Just finished your MGS3, Peace Walker, and Ground Zero vids. Thanks for catching me up in the Metal Gear series for MGS5, even with the tapes in that game I was still spotty on a lot of the events that happened
Thank you for uploading this and saving me from spending £16 on an intro for MGS V. Honestly, this should have been part of the main game and not separated with a cost attached.. so cheeky.
@@benjamindavid7371 I think the decision to shift to Kiefer makes a lot of sense. Hayter is kind of hammy and Venom Snake is anything but that. Plus if Big Boss was Hayter it would spoil the twist immediately
The best story game every created Best graphics 10/10 To bad they couldn’t make one of these every two years Remake part one two three with these graphics
Hopefully this rumor is true about konami and an mgs1 remake. It sucks with next gen on the way tg hat we sont have a new mgs to look forward to. The hype for mgsv was so great and wort every second!!!
This kind of idiotic thought process is why companies like Konami rarely produce anything of value anymore. What sane, rational, non-basement-dweller asked for a MGS1 remake?
I don't know if I was lucky, but I completed and played this on my potato laptop with 512mb vram integrated graphics(radeon r5)....and oh boy, for some reason even though it gave me 20-25 fps, it ran smoothly...and the cutscenes were just like in this walkthrough, very smooth....Very well optimized!
tpp graphics aren't really good, anti aliasing is kinda shit + you can see those shitty textures on the montains because the map is a huge flat land... (i still love the game don't get me wrong)
@manny if you started by phantom pain you gonna suffer a bit because the controls are a bit funky and stuff, but nothing to ruin the entire experience, just praticing a bit will make you good with gz controls
@manny i started on Phantom-Pain too because the game was on-sale and Ground-Zeroes was out-of-stock, and the playing-on--Ground-Zeroes helped me get an even-better-Feel-for the controls--&--stealth-operation of Phantom-Pain. (unlike Phantom-Pain, there's-no camouflage-clothing on Ground-Zeroes). (Kojima also stated that he purposely made the layout of the soldiers more-difficult in Ground-Zeroes than in Phantom-Pain. He stated why but i don't-recall--at-the-present-moment what he said).
@@slayerdude212 The main actor of Naked Snake (Big Boss) and Solid Snake was David Hayter for every other game in the series. I think Kiefer's addition in this is OK, but its not like how he was in the "24" television series.
@@Finger112 It would be weirder if it was David Hayter, imagine MGS4 cutscene. Both Solid Snake and Big Boss having the same voice actor wouldnt feel right.
Thats because the big boss here isnt the big boss you play in the phantom pains.basically the boss in the phantom pain is the doctor in the helicopter and the guy that saves you at the begining is the real one
Oh that's why the nickname "Snake" He moves soo fast while crouching all the way down, unlike you know... Humans. I bought the definitive edition double pack. First time playing this game in the series
Funny how this demo is turned out to be miles ahead of the Phantom Pain that resembles a sea with a depth of a puddle. When I first played this mission I was amazed at how good it was and how we never got something like this in TPP. Infiltrating a base at night with heavy rain to camouflage your presence, no fultons or any gimmick to hide the grinding you have to do in the game to unlock an unlimited silenced tranq pistol, no sci-fi nonesense like the annoying Skulls or robots. No companion that sniffs every enemy on the base to make it easier. No dumb optional objectives like picking up a flower or extracting a useless material container, a jeep or a tank. Just Snake with a pistol, a magazine and NVG. The cassete tape that Chico gives you is great, no marker that tells you where Paz is located, just a tape that you need to listen to to give you some idea where she might be. When I played this I was hooked, I wanted to locate her while staying undetected. Open world running around the desert like a headless chicken was Kojima mistake with this game, among other things and I hope he doesn't make the same mistake with his new game Death Stranding.
The openworld really not working well at Metal Gear series. Maybe the previous games are shorter and much more linear but still has much better stories and missions.
Honestly I would love a game with multiple missions like Ground zeroes in a single game, that’s how Phantom Pain should’ve been. (And like you said without any of the BS stuff like Skulls)
Well how do you feel about Death Stranding now that it’s out? I’m kind of Disappointed, story is good but I’m not into the delivery making thing. But you never know until you try!
Oh man! This is the last game where the real Big Boss did his things correctly because in The Phantom Pain he become a coward who leaves Venom take his place. When I played the last chapter of TPP I was thinking "Damn you Kojima and Big Boss" 😁. Venom becomes the best Boss.
To be fair, it was mostly Zero, but yeah Big Boss just went with the plan to leave the job to his most trusted comrade, the medic, or should I say.... Us?
@@easternargie926 he didn't leave Miller for no reason tho. At the end of Peace Walker when Kaz revealed he knew who Paz was all along and Big Boss took that as betrayal I believe.
This was my first ever introduction to MGS series and let me tell you. I had no fooking idea what I was doing playing this game without context. When I finished it, I was so confused to say the least
It was taking too long to make Metal Gear Solid V and Konami told them to finish the first mission and release it on its own to recoup some of their loses.
This is one of the reasons Kojima doesn't want to work with Konami anymore. They kept fucking with his projects and this is an instance of "business over quality". End results : Konami is universally hated and Kojima is living his best life.
Well, since it was an experiment of sorts. To see what's good and bad, learn and put new things in the phantom pain. And to buy themselves more time for next release. At least that's how I understood it.
Konami adapted a business model where they put less emphasis on quality. They also fucked Kojima over. That is why there is a noticeable decline in the overall production quality of TPP.
I see low crawl is valuable. I got cought up on stealth kills and marking enemies, trying to destroy the AA guns you name it. I see you stuck to the mission. But east mode, because I was not sneaking by anyone. I don’t know. I’m going to try this technique. Lol
When I play this (chico and paz rescue) I always for some reason get spotted by enemy when going stealth mode. I don't know why it always happened. The only time I went successfully stealth is when I rescue paz from the enemy. Chico I get spotted by them (enemy) by the rock but I enjoyed the game and keep playing it even whenIgot 99% complete. Btw my dad bought Metal gear solid 5 phantom pain and he lost it. Kinda sad I never get to play it.
Is anyone here like me? By me I mean the reason you're watching walkthroughs is cos you're poor as fuck and can't afford console or PC. Haha I hope i'm not alone.
It's hard to believe this was published in 2014.
Not only was this graphically one of the best-looking games of that era, but it holds _extremely_ well to this day, in 2023. Heck, look at almost any game published this year and tell me it looks even close to this good.
Truer words have never been spoken
yeah and it only needs 4gb of ram, 6gb of storage, and only a i5 intel processer, i dont know how they managed to make it that low
it’s that kojima magic
Agreed. I went back to it a week ago and was hooked once more. It's an almost perfect game for the niche it aims to fill.
This and Batman Arkham Knight from 2015, just beautiful ❤️
How does an 8 year old game have better graphics then some of the stuff released in the last 2 years 💀
Cinematic lighting and filmmaker aspirations of Kojima
PussyPower
Yeah it can even run on my potato laptop with 30-40 fps
Look at Arkham knight compared to marvel's avengers lol
- a Hideo Kojima game
Big Boss talks more in that opening exchange with Miller than Venom does in the entirety of The Phantom Pain.
I think that was intentional for 2 reasons. Reason #1 cause Venom isn’t Big Boss. We know that Big Boss is talkative, even in the truth ending, the real Big Boss talks a good amount. Reason #2 Kojima wanted Venom to be an extension of the player this time.
In the cut episode "Kingdom of the Flies", Snake talked more in that episode than in Ground Zeroes and The Phantom Pain combined
@@rjsarcade1686 It's intentional, but it's still absolute dogshit.
@@lordrathut I think because it takes part after the TRUTH ending, we see Venom finally be able to understand and assert himself. I mean he is basically an amnesiac for most of the Phantom Pain
@@saniakshay12 Good point
Paz and Chico have went through unimaginable things, i dont flinch at gore movies but GZ is hard to watch knowing whats happened to them.
thankfully it was just sound. a full cutscene would be traumatizing as fuck
Metal gear solid has the craziest story ever i cant believe how complex yet so awesome the story progressed and finished at the end with guns of patriots Its an experience kojima is a genious
@@magna1451 m talking MGS entire series story not just phanton pain
@@magna1451 what would you say it's the best?
It's better than Call Of Duty. That's for sure.
I remember watching my older brother play this game. And him being in disbelief when the credits rolled. Finding out the game after all this time has been satisfying, core memory unlocked
Man it all make more sense now. I played the phantom pain without ever knowing this part exist lol
it would of been good if GZ was kept in TPP as another prologue mission before awakening
@@retardsgaminggroup i agree.
i-also really-effing-hate that the cassette-tapes we got in Ground-Zeroes (including the-music-tapes), we couldn't listen to them in Phantom Pain :-(
Ground Zeroes feels more like a tie up to Peace Walker (Which i aint huge fan of). But if you never have played Peace Walker ,then Ground Zeroes aint all that important.
Just finished your MGS3, Peace Walker, and Ground Zero vids. Thanks for catching me up in the Metal Gear series for MGS5, even with the tapes in that game I was still spotty on a lot of the events that happened
Thank you for uploading this and saving me from spending £16 on an intro for MGS V. Honestly, this should have been part of the main game and not separated with a cost attached.. so cheeky.
It’s Konami what do you expect
You can get this and phantom pain for 20 bucks with the definitive edition
I really like the sound design in this and the phantom pain...everything you do sounds so good!🤔
Except Snake, David Hayter Snake was the best Snake
@@AntiZer0 Agreed, but I would argue that Kiefer Sutherland gave an incredible performance.
@@benjamindavid7371 I think the decision to shift to Kiefer makes a lot of sense. Hayter is kind of hammy and Venom Snake is anything but that. Plus if Big Boss was Hayter it would spoil the twist immediately
AntiZer0 do you know that you are playing with medic in Ground Zeroes ? Thats a simulation/indoctrination of a memory
@@PautinoPR Source(s): trust me bro
8:07 that classic line.
Wait doesn't the inflatable Snake say that in MGSV?
@@leonpaelinck Yes, it’s a running gag throughout all the games, it’s snakes catchphrase.
yo in!
Delivered by a phantom
The best story game every created
Best graphics
10/10
To bad they couldn’t make one of these every two years
Remake part one two three with these graphics
Hopefully this rumor is true about konami and an mgs1 remake. It sucks with next gen on the way tg hat we sont have a new mgs to look forward to. The hype for mgsv was so great and wort every second!!!
@@tonytrident8874 I think no, because kojima isn't on Konami anymore. But, if that news true the game would be suck ass
This kind of idiotic thought process is why companies like Konami rarely produce anything of value anymore. What sane, rational, non-basement-dweller asked for a MGS1 remake?
Fox engine treatment for all Metal Gear. No Kojima, no MGS
We're getting a MGS3 remake now
8:07 it was right in front of us the whole time...
Hideo Kojima was ahead of his time
I don't know if I was lucky, but I completed and played this on my potato laptop with 512mb vram integrated graphics(radeon r5)....and oh boy, for some reason even though it gave me 20-25 fps, it ran smoothly...and the cutscenes were just like in this walkthrough, very smooth....Very well optimized!
Can I can play this with 6GB RAM, Ryzen 5, and integrated graphics? Acer Aspire 3
smooothly bruh@@joemarichristiansantos7926
@@joemarichristiansantos7926of course, this game also good playing on xbox 360 lol
A trilha sonora desse jogo é incrível.
The soundtrack for this game is incredible.
Verdade
True
Tamo junto
We're together
Graphics is very beautiful!
Plus the game is from 2014
tpp graphics aren't really good, anti aliasing is kinda shit + you can see those shitty textures on the montains because the map is a huge flat land... (i still love the game don't get me wrong)
I still prefer David Hayter's voice but yep this will suffice !!
@@mexican_geese7134 agreed ^^
Kiefer's voice is OK, I don't think the timbre of his voice never really fit with the character exactly.
@@Finger112 it def lacks Snake's signature gravely quality
You made this look like a movie from start to finish
I’ll never stop playing MGS ground Zeroes
One of the best stealth mechanics besides MGS5 👍
@manny if you started by phantom pain you gonna suffer a bit because the controls are a bit funky and stuff, but nothing to ruin the entire experience, just praticing a bit will make you good with gz controls
@manny yes, this is basically the prologue of Phantom Pain just like the Tanker incident was to MGS2
@manny i started on Phantom-Pain too because the game was on-sale and Ground-Zeroes was out-of-stock, and the playing-on--Ground-Zeroes helped me get an even-better-Feel-for the controls--&--stealth-operation of Phantom-Pain. (unlike Phantom-Pain, there's-no camouflage-clothing on Ground-Zeroes).
(Kojima also stated that he purposely made the layout of the soldiers more-difficult in Ground-Zeroes than in Phantom-Pain. He stated why but i don't-recall--at-the-present-moment what he said).
Unfortunately game is too short.
@@auroralovix9415 i second that 😢/🥺.
After so many games, it's certianly strange to hear Snake with a different voice. Kiefer Sutherland does a good job as Big Boss though
they changed his voice?
@@slayerdude212 The main actor of Naked Snake (Big Boss) and Solid Snake was David Hayter for every other game in the series. I think Kiefer's addition in this is OK, but its not like how he was in the "24" television series.
@@Finger112 It would be weirder if it was David Hayter, imagine MGS4 cutscene. Both Solid Snake and Big Boss having the same voice actor wouldnt feel right.
no joke, i almost fainted when they removed the bomb...had pins and needles with cloudy vision
Same lol
Agreed. That was intense.
Pffffff, wussies
Damn yeah 😅
Revolver Ocelot type moment 40:00 ( Metal Gear Solid PS1/After torture )
Keifer Sutherland talks more in this than in the entirety of Phantom Pain
Thats because the big boss here isnt the big boss you play in the phantom pains.basically the boss in the phantom pain is the doctor in the helicopter and the guy that saves you at the begining is the real one
@@Bakoi12 bro he a medic aint a doctor medic and doctor have difference
@Hfmurasama_blade He performed emergency surgery, you can call him a doc, vacuum the sand out of your twat.
Oh that's why the nickname "Snake"
He moves soo fast while crouching all the way down, unlike you know... Humans.
I bought the definitive edition double pack. First time playing this game in the series
Kept you waiting, huh?
That's not venom snake in your profile picture
You're pretty good
I hope that one day kojima will come back and make a remaster of both these forgotten amazing games.
published 2014 and still one of the best games for graphics
Can't wait to see Big Boss in MGS3 remake the beginning of his story and adventure from Hero to Legend
Nice walkthrough. Might catch some tips for my own playthrough tomorrow. :)
Snake is gonna have 1 fucked up back from all thoughs years of crouching
While he will never be as good as David Hayter was as Snake, Kiefer Sutherland did a pretty good job.
Side ops too? Nice walkthrough by the way 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks man, i might do them eventually. Had a lot of stuff going on recently
Funny how this demo is turned out to be miles ahead of the Phantom Pain that resembles a sea with a depth of a puddle. When I first played this mission I was amazed at how good it was and how we never got something like this in TPP. Infiltrating a base at night with heavy rain to camouflage your presence, no fultons or any gimmick to hide the grinding you have to do in the game to unlock an unlimited silenced tranq pistol, no sci-fi nonesense like the annoying Skulls or robots. No companion that sniffs every enemy on the base to make it easier. No dumb optional objectives like picking up a flower or extracting a useless material container, a jeep or a tank. Just Snake with a pistol, a magazine and NVG. The cassete tape that Chico gives you is great, no marker that tells you where Paz is located, just a tape that you need to listen to to give you some idea where she might be. When I played this I was hooked, I wanted to locate her while staying undetected. Open world running around the desert like a headless chicken was Kojima mistake with this game, among other things and I hope he doesn't make the same mistake with his new game Death Stranding.
Exactly! Though it's probably easier to make one level really shine compared with dozens of them.
The openworld really not working well at Metal Gear series. Maybe the previous games are shorter and much more linear but still has much better stories and missions.
Honestly I would love a game with multiple missions like Ground zeroes in a single game, that’s how Phantom Pain should’ve been. (And like you said without any of the BS stuff like Skulls)
I traded in TPP and kept Ground Zeroes.
Well how do you feel about Death Stranding now that it’s out? I’m kind of Disappointed, story is good but I’m not into the delivery making thing. But you never know until you try!
Yuri Lowenthal did voice capture and Matt Mercer did voice lines for extras? Thats kinda cool
Arguably the best opening cutscene of any game in history.
Shame the rest of the game didn’t live up to it.
Oh man! This is the last game where the real Big Boss did his things correctly because in The Phantom Pain he become a coward who leaves Venom take his place. When I played the last chapter of TPP I was thinking "Damn you Kojima and Big Boss" 😁.
Venom becomes the best Boss.
To be fair, it was mostly Zero, but yeah Big Boss just went with the plan to leave the job to his most trusted comrade, the medic, or should I say.... Us?
@@ilikepigeons6101 It just doesn't feel like him, specially the way he leaves Miller, no wonder he joins FoxHound later lol
@@easternargie926 he didn't leave Miller for no reason tho. At the end of Peace Walker when Kaz revealed he knew who Paz was all along and Big Boss took that as betrayal I believe.
i get chills watching this
RIP David Hayter
Slagon Drayer and Paz she died to soon
Nah fuck Paz. But Kiefer Sutherland as Snake sounds pretty badass. To be honest.
26:06 did anyone else’s video freeze
the game froze like that when i was playing it
Ok
yup
no
This is the most short game I ever saw.
I just played it today and beat it less than an hour, I was like how long have I been sitting here? Lol
Yep, that is the most revolting cutscene in a game ever
Probably Paz’s surgery
@@JoeD94 Exactly
I'm desensitized to a lot of stuff, but that makes me wince
This game is actually like kickstarter crowdfunding lmao.
this game should've been the real phantom pain.
This was my first ever introduction to MGS series and let me tell you. I had no fooking idea what I was doing playing this game without context. When I finished it, I was so confused to say the least
MGSV doesn't really look that bad
why does everyone hate it?
They don't like the story and no David hayter . Although I thought the game was really good
A vast majority of the open world was barren.
@@pcharl01 I got MGSV and can confirm
kinda sad but its fun
I hate Phantom Pain
Not this
@@morkgin2459 Phanton Pain is longer at least.
Even the 360 version looked better than games today
52:55 They spelled "trainer" in "animal trainer" as "traner" in the credits there
Lol good catch
I remember when I first got this and was playing it on my new Xbox one thinking this is next gen
You can play both mgsv games on the 360 and they still look pretty good especially for the 360
Around 45:10 that's where my survive begins
I love the tone of this game.
This game hits different compared to tpp.
59:22 can anyone give me the title of this soundtrack please?
9 Years · Ludvig Forssell/Akihiro Honda · Ludvig Forssell/Akihiro Honda ua-cam.com/video/edsK38C9CeQ/v-deo.htmlsi=IwhYHhsmpEie1PAl
And when do these events of G. Zeroes and P. Pain, take place? In David Hayter's timeline or Big Boss' timeline?
MadGun 213 there’s no timeline between the VAs but GZ takes place before TPP. Both of them take place after MGS3, peace walker and portable ops
The Solid Snake Timeline starts after Phantom Pain with the Metal Gear Game on the NES i think.
I think GZ happened in 1975, one year after the events of Peace Walker.
Its more fun when you escape with paz in a more action way.
I'm just glad this game isn't free roam big open world like phantom Pain is, and it's not as hard to have fun
I'm confused, why even have G. Zeros? Why didn't they just put this whole thing in Phantom Pain?🤨
It was taking too long to make Metal Gear Solid V and Konami told them to finish the first mission and release it on its own to recoup some of their loses.
This is one of the reasons Kojima doesn't want to work with Konami anymore. They kept fucking with his projects and this is an instance of "business over quality".
End results : Konami is universally hated and Kojima is living his best life.
Well, since it was an experiment of sorts. To see what's good and bad, learn and put new things in the phantom pain.
And to buy themselves more time for next release.
At least that's how I understood it.
Konami adapted a business model where they put less emphasis on quality. They also fucked Kojima over. That is why there is a noticeable decline in the overall production quality of TPP.
Kojima should have remade Metal Gear 1 and 2 which were on the game boy
I still believe MGSV is unfinished and they could've added a lot more
The music is so so!! Good pam pam parm pam
What a thrill
watching this I realize that I sux at mgs but I still love the story
Too bad Phantom Pain wasn't like 12 of these types of missions.
Chico is latino Shinji Ikari
How?
I see low crawl is valuable. I got cought up on stealth kills and marking enemies, trying to destroy the AA guns you name it. I see you stuck to the mission. But east mode, because I was not sneaking by anyone. I don’t know. I’m going to try this technique. Lol
When I play this (chico and paz rescue) I always for some reason get spotted by enemy when going stealth mode. I don't know why it always happened. The only time I went successfully stealth is when I rescue paz from the enemy. Chico I get spotted by them (enemy) by the rock but I enjoyed the game and keep playing it even whenIgot 99% complete. Btw my dad bought Metal gear solid 5 phantom pain and he lost it. Kinda sad I never get to play it.
8:07 kept you waiting huh?
Love this opening!
Hmmm, how come android did not response to iPhone with an iDroid ?!?!
Honestly Ground Zeros should of been the MGS 5 as a whole instead of TPP
*should have, or should've.
Is anyone here like me? By me I mean the reason you're watching walkthroughs is cos you're poor as fuck and can't afford console or PC. Haha I hope i'm not alone.
Thats nothing to laugh at bro come on
Final Boss Zero0 humour bro, you need some, peace :)
I do
Where was the other bomb?
Uterus
Outstanding ...
37:00 you forgot about the prisoners , two packages plus a few.
thanks for not having commentary
7:47 I’m in front of the prison camp
whats the song that plays?
If you’re talkin about the one in the intro it’s called here’s to you, I think you figured it out by now sorry.
@@davemardrov777 mhm
So thats where the meme comes from
What meme?
20:18
I'm sor...
GREAT!!!
lmao we went from 5 hour to 1
I loved this one
Remembered me ??
Abi sende mgs varmı?
@@Etherealsorrow tabi gulum zaten en sevdigim oyun mgs3 seceneklerimiz cok fazla
Vay çipçi herif de burada
Am I the only won who save all fo the prisoner's
can u tell me how not copyright di video ? because i want to play and upload to youtube. thx
U
Just play and upload it.
good stuff!
The ending was sad.
When was this released? It looks so much better than phantom pain graphics on my ps3
this is prolly a ps4 version
@@yoman6142 you can see Xbox buttons. They're probably playing on an Xbox One X.
Cause they're probably playing on better hardware
Master Miller
Can't wait for Phantom Pain playthrough. 👍😉
I already have it uploaded
SourceSpy91 👍😎
I cant find it, where is it?
Go to my channel main page and it will be in the MGS section
bro they really switched the voice actor fuck!!!!
pov you fall first asleep in a sleep over 40:55
Hmm I wonder who that medic is
Was this game supposed to be this short?
nice are going to do the other mission
Dang. You beat me here.
I might do, i've never played them so i'll have to see what they're like
Not gonna happen
Was that easy mode! Dang. I have done ground zero over and over. I lost all of my data when my PS4 crashed and I had to start over.
Why does this game only have 1 mission like what's the point
There are more missions that you can unlock.
@@donkeykongisytpooping3002 but all of em have the same map.
Late reply but this is a demo mgs5 phantom pain is the actual game
Urban legend ricola
真的，我已經把《幻痛》玩了不止七八遍了，卻遲遲不玩《原爆點》，雖然它已經安裝在我的電腦里兩年多了。我不知道為什麼，也許是我怕玩了後，從此就再也沒有新鮮的Big Boss事件在我那該死的電腦里了吧~
I bought MGS4: PP and GZ... never cleared GZ ty
46:04
time stamp andy?