The History of Adventure | MeatEater Podcast Ep. 546
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Steven Rinella talks with Peter Stark, Ryan Callaghan, Brody Henderson, Randall Williams, Phil Taylor, and Corinne Schneider.
Topics discussed: Being an adventurer and then an adventure historian; Peter's many books; the beaver in the tile work of Astor Place; how young Washington was a screw up; how exasperated Steve gets listening to Attenborough, God bless him; dinosaurs in the snow; land back scenarios; mapping out old water ways; checking out narwhals with Inuit hunters; how far north can you go?; different ways to die; box jellies and black mambas; the lost Pacific Empire of Astor and Jefferson; young Washington; Tecumseh; and more.
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The history podcasts are my favorites. Thanks fellers!
Best part of my Commute! Living in SF BAY I just haven't found an outdoor community that isn't hippy rock climbers. I miss my South Florida roots 😢
I recently moved to the Bay Area from the uk! Starting to find some people in the fishing communities thankfully but it is difficult!
@@speshrugby2402lucky sod! I’m stuck in UK still. I love it but I’d give it up in a heartbeat to go across the pond,just for the fishing and hunting. 🇬🇧👍
Anyone else want Steve to start growing his hair long to look like a founding father?
He's probably hoping it doesn't reseed more than anything. If it does, he'll need to grab a guitar like Kenny Chesney or Dwight Yoakum and a cowboy hat.
Hang in there Steve were all pulling for ya.
They wore wigs...
No, not at all.
@@austincox4769came to say the same thing, those guys were damn near, if not completely, bald
Oh hell yeah . World needs more longhairs
Steve is referring to Route 50 that runs from DC to Parkersburg in West Virginia. There are still surveyor’s monuments with Washington’s name hidden in those hills. I personally found several when I lived there.
I could listen to this guy talk for days on end.
The episodes just keep getting better and funnier
I ran into this same thing as the Catalina Island thing in the Detroit area. The local Metroparks were overrun with whitetail and wasting disease. The locals didn't want hunters in there. They think hunters are unsafe (like the Bambi movie). They decided to trap and relocate deer until the projected cost was realized. So then, the helicopter snipers were put forward as the solution, and the animal rights people went insane. Even though the meat would be used to feed underprivileged residents. When I moved 2 years later, they were still fighting. It's maddening!
They fed cwd deer meat to people ?
Prehistoric planet is objectively THE best depiction of dinosaurs in modern media. They’ve portrayed them much more like actual animals instead of malicious fighting monsters. There is a lot of speculation of dinosaur behavior and physiology in the series, but all of it is based on scientific evidence borrowed from paleontology and how animals (mostly birds) act and interact in their environments in todays natural world. Pretty neat that Steve mentioned that series, I loved it! Even with Attenborough’s expelled sentences.
What an engaging guest Peter Stark was! Goes into my top five episodes easily.
Same, I didn’t know who he was before but I am a big fan now
That Attenborough line killed me!!😂😂
Shout our little calumet river !
British Columbia, Canada encountered a similar situation on Sydney Island. Instead of allowing legal hunters to ethnically harvest the non-native species of fallow deer that inhabit the island, the Canadian federal government hired foreign contractors to kill roughly 100 deer from helicopters using AR's with extended magazine capacities (both of which are prohibited in Canada). This was done at a cost of $10,000.00 per deer.
The irony is, when addressing citizens regarding the 2020 AR ban the Prime Minister was famously quoted saying "You don't need an AR-15 to bring down a deer."
In my opinion, he has proven that it indeed is possible to suck and blow at the same time.
I wish you guys would get David Ellis "Yawt Yawt" on the pod . Turkey hunter and pig trapper from Mississippi to educate people on the wild pig problem in the southeast. Keep'em coming folks!!👍👍💪💪
Don't talk shit about SIR David Attenborough
I'd waste a few hours on youtube watching Steve Science Theater 3000
I think Mathew Power is the guy Steve asked about, he died from severe heatstroke whilst accompanying Levison Wood walking the length of the Nile.
New York University established the Matthew Power Literary Reporting Award in his honour.
Thrilled to hear about Southeastern Oregon and John Day on here!!!
great podcast !!
Quick question, I who ties rays shoelaces in the morning, 😂😅🤣 love you big Ray of sunshine ☀ ❤
Its private land bought on the open market, generally that makes it straight foward.
Isnt there a little difference though in that its then going into trust with a Native group or another ngo type project? If the land was bought by an individual or something like that i bet people are thinking it might actually be able to be bought again. In the other cases it probably never will be.
I've got his book Astoria. FASCINATING!! MAD CRAZY HISTORY!!
Ya need to get shane gillis. Hes doing a history podcast now. Gotta figure iut a way to rope him into your sphere somehow
Shane is funny. Increasingly I'm finding out he seems to be basically soft pussi. All he cares about is rap and video games lol. He has like no interest in any outdoor activities it seems.
I suppose there is the history angle like you mentioned.
Shout out to the east arm of the little calumet river in indiana!!!
Im from Fort Wayne and canoe around NE Indiana quite a lot, its severely underrated
I am a SE Hoosier. Howdy
Corinne is so beautiful man. Just saying
Great episode, though it reminds me of how boring a life I’ve had 😂
Same
Grayson Highlands Start park you can hunt fish trap. Va
Wow, wonderful stories, great people, love life!
Um, as a Wisconsinite with lots of relatives in MN: Giving public land to a tribe will absolutely result in shenanigans, extortion, abuse, and mismanagement if both the land itself and people on it.
They can't even handle splitting a lake with us without kidnapping, false imprisonment, and violating law on "our side" of it where they have no jurisdiction.
This is a terrible idea.
Great opinion 👌 very white of you
@@porkrind225 Shove it. I worked my local res for years, am literally descendant of Nipissing, and have no patience for explaining why my family left that culture two generations ago to ignorant racists.
Enjoy having zero experience dealing with these situations because they're terrible.
Troll elsewhere, but I suggest you practice first! 🤣
It was their land in the first place.
@@chuckerfaceit Weird. Didn't know my ancestors, who killed a bunch of people to take it from others, were suddenly entitled to the land they didn't think they owned in the first place when a bunch of whites showed up and pushed them off it.
So strange that if you're experienced in dealing with these situations you have an entirely different take than those who know nothing about it.
There's a reason my family left that res stuff a few generations ago. It hasn't improved much, if at all, due to wild cultural differences and what's considered acceptable behavior.
For Canadian's they mean the French word Portage, soft a-sound, as in the Voyageurs.
Yes. The portage is still there It's very much a canal nowadays and not very well taken care of unfortunately. The city of portage in general is struggling. It's a shame because the area is gorgeous with plenty of water, rolling hills and a really nice ski resort at Cascade. The major holdback is the Wisconsin DNR's rule that you can't modify waterways from their natural existence. So if a tree falls, It is illegal to remove it. These beautiful waterways are impassable throughout the state.
Dude sounds like Tony Peterson!
Thats the best song yet!
Great podcast, yer man's a better talker than Rinella ! Greetings from Ireland.
For his July adventure name how about "Please pass the portage"
I fished the john day dam like 2 weeks ago. I’ve never really thought of it as an empty space but i suppose it is. The land between and around mt, st helens, rainier and adams, is totally wild. Much of it doesnt even have trails. Its just wild
Whats your point though? Theres a long, rich and interesting Native culture and history in the US that should be preserved. The government has done natives wrong obviously. I think theres good arguments to be made about trying to write these wrongs, at least some of the previois treaty type things.
That said, I am always curious where these arguments and lines of thinking go and where we draw the line?
Should we just cut to the chase and give back all the land to the Natives?
Alot of the time these types of statements like "the irony of the white man worrying about treaties being broken" just feel like virtue signals and self flatulations. They rarely actually expect much of anything to be done about it or might even be against some actions to try and make something right but they still have to get the platitudes out.
The problem with righting the wrongs is that I don’t trust anyone to not get greedy in doing so in return. Two wrongs don’t make a right, and at the end of the day, if public access is lost for everyone, and the land is under new management, development could happen, permanently changing the land, making the true losers the wildlife.
Public land is THE most free aspect to the USA in my opinion. It means everyone can use it, including tribes.
Indiana rivers are definitely underated, lived in central Indy my entire life and feel like I haven't even scratched the surface
aussie but a small box jellyfish got my sister, really hot water and pain killers
I honestly thought he was talking about Adam Sandler
Your story about Catalina Island reminded me of the wild Elk herd in far NW Minn. that ran across a farmstead and instead of working with DNR and getting eager hunters involved they brought in FBI snipers in Helos and wiped out the small remaining heard. Only in American.
That sounds like an only in MN thing to me. Anything involving that state and wildlife management of any kind is entertaining to watch from afar.
I think this is my favorite outro song so far.
My favorite episode, great stuff
I wantnto hear more! Great guest.
Sda church mentioned 😎
Wish Steve was my dad
This guy is the best
Another great episode!
It's time for Rifftrax with Rinella
Literally mocking people for being inconsistent about private property rights and they all basically said "Well im always against any loss to public access, BUT". Lmao
Totally happy that you brought up the tribal land back issues …… tribal land back issues have been long time issue
The lands that belong to tribe since treaties have been established and present in the federal government, broken promises have been in the fabric woven into the American culture
The speaker spoke perfect ….. it’s an issue that has flipped …… now the government is worried that is Native Americans would break an agreement
I love to speak more about this
Corrine gives the “kill it” signal…pfft.
Imagine stealing someone’s land then giving it back but being mad because you might not be able to use it again.
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57:10 57:13
Any one else think the guest sounded like Ted Nugent ? Lol
Not so much, no.
Here here! No park visits - no scouting opportunities! :D
Stark’s knowledge of history is godawful. I hope your books are better
Years ago Meateater was called out as green decoys. We all laughed, but they are bought and sold every which way.
What are you talking about?
Not only did you screw up the whole history of John Day and his involvement in the Astor Expedition, you obviously don’t even now where the town of John Day is. Terrible 👎🏻