@@josephteologen I agree. All too rare. Yet it is truly Orthodox, and speaking antagonistically is not. The measure is love, the love of God. Pray forgive us Orthodox who fail to show His love as we ought, for we too are sinners.
I feel a connection between Protestants, Orthodox Christians and Catholics becoming real. It's very beautiful. We're all fighting against the same thing.
We are all trying to follow Christ. But one can truly follow Christ in spirit and in truth. We believe this fullness of spirit and truth is in the Orthodox Church. In the heterodox faith, this spirit and truth is limited, that is why others outside can still experience some kind of grace, but not in its fullness. Ñ As Orthodox we are very much against ecumenism, because we do not have the same faith as Protestants and Roman Catholics. But we do not condemn nor limit God to using those in the heterodox faith to help others. “If he is not against us, he is for us”. We encourage all to become Orthodox for it is the True church that Christ established.
@@OrthoNektarios Protestants say the same about Orthodxy and Catholicism. We admit that they can be saved by the power of Jesus Christ, but that the plenty of true orthodoxy and catholicity is only found in Reformed biblical doctrine (i.e., Protestantism). Thus, I think we can, at least, have a brotherly union meanwhile the doctrinal unity doesn't come.
I understand. However, there are some legitimate concerns I have in terms of theology that I don't seem to agree with in regards to the Orthodox Church's beliefs. I need to do further study. God bless.@@OrthoNektarios
@@josueinhan8436 You should read the History of the Church, familiarize yourself with the tradition of the Church before the Holy Scriptures were created by Saint Irenaeus of Lyons.
A Protestant church camp built the foundation of my faith, and Orthodoxy bulit the house of faith on that solid foundation. I wouldn't be Orthodox without that camp.
Thank you Father! I’m newly converted to Christianity a little less than a year ago! I’m beyond grateful for the Protestants who’ve helped me build my faith in Christ! I must say I absolutely adore how much love and respect the Orthodox Christians show our Lord! So much that I feel called to it!
I just wanted to comment and remind all of my Orthodox brothers and sister that when we see people saying hateful things about The Faith and the faithful, please remember these are exactly the people we need to pray for and show love to in turn. Save, Lord, and have mercy on those who hate and offend me, and do me harm. Do not let them perish because of me, a sinner.
So glad to hear protestantism having a good effect on others (even our Orthodox brothers and sisters). We should be working together to bring Christ to all
I was born serbian orthodox, baptized as a baby but it took ray comfort to kinda lure me back in so to say. And there the journey began just to find out, I always had everything. ☦️💀❤️
That's crazy I was atheist or agnostic for most of my life and had the exact same thing happen, Ray may be Protestant but really helped push me back to Orthodoxy. Born Serbian Baptized Orthodox.
Grew up not believing really just honoring my family. About a year and a half ago I finally felt the Holy Spirit again, haven't felt like that since I was a very young child but as soon as I did I felt that something essential to my very being had returned.
I grew up going to the holy trinity, Father Tim had a major impact on me. I will never forget him. His story is special and I am happy to see hes back in AZ. God Bless!
Thanks for this Father. I have many protestant friends and even some that are very Christ centered and faithful. Although I know protestantism is not the true church, I believe that Christ works through them and it's hard for me to say that they won't be in paradise in the end. Father, pray for me, a lowly sinner!
The real church exists within Protestantism, the comfort in mystery is lacking as is a rich liturgy anymore across denomination, but the body of Christ exists in many congregations. We all must remember the thief on the cross who preceded even Christ’s death. Judgement is God’s. There is enough faction in the world.
I live in a country full of protestants and roman catholics, well the parents are but most of the kids are Atheist now. Both churches haven't done a good job here in Colombia. The Orthodox comunity is so small most people don't even know exist and they think it is only for foreigners but i assure once someone enters into an Orthodox temple do not want to leave it never, our country needs the Orthodox Faith ☦️💒
Hola, el otro día estaba viendo un video de @kurateka y entrevistó a un padre ortodoxo colombiano, Alejandro se llama, muy buen video. Un abrazo desde Uruguay
You might like to hear we worship in St Sophrony Greek Orthodox church in South Australia( all English services) & this year a young boy of 16 yo has been attending on his own who is Colombian! I was impressed with his piety and zeal at such a young age. You Colombians must have something in the water there!
It is partly thanks to two Protestants I said a prayer with on the street in 2016 that I am going to be baptised Catholic next Easter Weekend Deus Vult. We said a Prayer that day that Jesus was the Life and the Way and the Truth'. Once we said that prayer together they were super happy and leave me be. That day I was dressed in a Monster Costume but they looked right true it. I guess asking Jesus to be in your heart one way or the other will work. Even if it is not within traditional apostolic Christianity be it Orthodox or Catholic.
Deepening Our Faith: Rediscovering Ancient Wisdom for Modern Believers @everyone Introduction In a time where personal sentiment often shapes our understanding of faith, the Ancient Faith, as practiced within the Apostolic Western Orthodox Church, invites us to a richer, more grounded spiritual life. This document proposes a journey back to the roots of Christian doctrine, emphasizing the importance of patristic writings and the decisions of the first seven ecumenical councils. By weaving these ancient insights into our contemporary faith practice, we aim to cultivate a deeper, more authentic relationship with Jesus Christ, moving beyond the transient nature of feelings to the solidity of established doctrine and tradition. I. Contextualizing Scripture: The Bedrock of Historical and Linguistic Study A. Uncovering the Historical and Cultural Context Modern interpretations of scripture often miss the profound depth found in understanding its historical and cultural contexts. The patristic era, including the teachings of the Church Fathers and the conclusions of the ecumenical councils, offers invaluable insights into these contexts, grounding our faith in the rich soil of tradition and communal discernment. B. The Linguistic Dimensions of Faith The Greek term πιστεύω (pisteuō), meaning to believe or to have faith in, takes on new depths when seen through the lens of patristic commentary. For instance, Gregory of Nyssa, a Church Father, emphasized faith as an active and dynamic journey toward the knowledge of God, rather than a static state of agreement. II. Embracing an Active, Historical Faith A. Faith as Relationship and Obedience Moving beyond a simplistic, emotion-based understanding of faith, the Ancient Faith, through the teachings of the Church Fathers and the ecumenical councils, presents a model of faith as a dynamic relationship and obedience to Christ's commands. Augustine of Hippo, reflecting on John's Gospel, famously stated, "Faith is to believe what you do not see; the reward of this faith is to see what you believe." B. The Scriptural Imperative of Active Faith The councils, through their doctrinal clarifications, and the patristics, through their exegetical works, have laid down a foundation for understanding the scriptural imperatives of faith. The Council of Nicaea (325 AD), for instance, defended the divinity of Christ against Arianism, affirming the importance of Christ's nature in our salvation-a core truth that demands a faith lived out in reverence and awe. III. The Continual Process of Belief: A Patristic and Conciliar Perspective The New Testament's portrayal of faith as ongoing action is deeply echoed in the writings of the Church Fathers and the decrees of the ecumenical councils. John Chrysostom, commenting on Paul's letters, urged believers to continuous growth in faith, a theme that resonates with the decisions of the Council of Constantinople (381 AD), which expanded the Nicene Creed to further define the Holy Spirit's divinity, emphasizing the dynamic nature of Christian doctrine and belief. IV. The Integral Role of Patristics and Councils in Understanding Salvation Understanding salvation requires engaging with the rich tradition of patristic writings and the authoritative decisions of the ecumenical councils. The Council of Ephesus (431 AD), for example, proclaimed Mary as Theotokos (God-bearer), a declaration that underscores the Incarnation's significance in salvation history. Cyril of Alexandria, a key figure in the council, wrote extensively on the mystery of the Incarnation, reminding us that our salvation is deeply rooted in the person and work of Christ, a truth that transcends mere emotional comprehension. V. Living the Teachings of Christ: A Call to Orthopraxy A. Beyond Emotions: The Sacramental Life The sacramental theology of the Ancient Faith, informed by both patristic thought and ecumenical councils, offers a tangible way to live out the teachings of Christ. The Council of Chalcedon (451 AD) defended the true presence of Christ in the Eucharist, a mystery that invites believers to a deeper participation in the life of Christ beyond the limitations of personal sentiment. B. The Witness of the Saints The saints, as celebrated in the teachings of the Church Fathers and affirmed by the councils, provide exemplars of faith lived in obedience and love. The lives of saints like Athanasius, who championed Nicene orthodoxy against Arianism, remind us that authentic faith requires courage, conviction, and a deep engagement with the truths of scripture as understood by the broader church. VI. Conclusion and Invitation to Dialogue This exploration into the Ancient Faith, illuminated by patristic writings and the doctrinal clarity of the ecumenical councils, invites modern believers to a deeper, more authentic engagement with Christian faith. As we seek to navigate the complexities of contemporary spirituality, let us open ourselves to the wisdom of our spiritual forebears, allowing their insights to enrich our understanding and practice of faith. We encourage readers to join us in a vibrant dialogue about integrating these ancient understandings into our daily lives. Let us discuss how the teachings of the Church Fathers and the authoritative guidance of the ecumenical councils can inform our approach to scripture, enrich our spiritual practices, and deepen our relationship with Jesus Christ. Together, may we rediscover the transformative power of an authentically lived faith, grounded in the timeless truths of the Ancient Faith and the Apostolic Western Orthodox Church.
This is like the exact opposite from my life changing experience. I grew up Protestant and was pushed away from God bc of a non-denominational cult.... I mean "church". But in my late 20s I had met a girl from Cyprus who taught me so much about Jesus from the Greek perspective and that's when it all clicked and so I wanted to get the fullness of her way to Christ. So, I was compelled when I attended divine liturgy to yern for communion which requires me to show dedication, which is what has changed me. But idk I guess we all go on different directions. But I do still honor the true Protestants for their scriptural literacy.
I'm Ethiopian Orthodox. It's amazing to find this channel. I'm so happy to see Americans got a chance to learn about Orthodox teaching. I watched the other video about the marriage teaching. I'm so happy people are getting a chance to learn how marriage is defined according to Jesus Christ not in a definition of the cooperate interest to control and manipulate the society. Thank you again.
This is similar to my experience too. I was born in an Albanian Orthodox family who were as Father Timothy says, nominally Orthodox. When I came here to the US, I met a Catholic family who actually lived their faith and supported pro life causes. Also their daughter was newly converted from Catholic to evangelical and she had a new found zeal for God. When I saw how much religion was part of their family life, and how they prayed together as a family, then I started to examine my orthodox seed that was planted in childhood and have grown so much into my faith since I met them. And I have been spurred to even learn more about Orthodoxy and the scriptures because of them and to have a deeper prayer life.
Glory to God! I am too a cradle orthodox but didn’t grow up actually knowing the Father and His Son. I was agnostic for a long time and then by some quick miracle, God changed my heart! Over the course of a couple years I matured in Christ in so many ways and I’ve stayed in the Protestant church since then because of the path God has placed me in. My relationship with Him only keeps growing and I am grateful for my Orthodox brothers and sisters. The body of Christ is strong and wonderful! Praise God!
Saint Silouan is the Saint of my heart. He also pierced my heart and changed my relationship with Christ forever. Thank You from the bottom of my heart for posting such wonderful videos. May our Lord Jesus Christ bless these fathers.
God bless you and your loved ones people ! Jesus Christ loves you ! ❤️ My favorite Orthodox Pastor - Mar Mari Emmanuel. Watch his preaching, he loves Jesus Christ of Nazareth the most beyond anything in the world. Amen
I’ve known three priests in my 35 years as a convert to Orthodoxy. Fr. Peter represented the Authority of the Church and Fr. Nectarios the Joy of the Church. Fr. Timothy Pavlatos represents to me greatly the LOVE of the Church. Having him in my living room, though be it on my TV, reminds of being in his dining room in Southern California and the experience and memory brings his love back to me. Father Bless.
I know I’m being called to be a Priest. As divine as it may be, I knew before I knew what Orthodoxy was. Now, I’m in the process of converting. And soon my church will accept me as a Catechumen. I’m not rushing anything. When God has prepared me, I will be ready.
I am happy to hear about your journey. I am Protestant myself but I have always felt the Orthodox and Catholics are my brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ. We all serve the same master. That is what is important. Reflecting God's love and abiding by His Word. God bless.
I attended a Devine Liturgy on a whim about 6 months ago and It really shook me up. They gave me a prayer book and a small book about the history and theology to read. I say the prayers and have read the book. I've leaned a lot about orthodoxy and since then I've become convinced i sould start attending, but every sunday i am filled with dread and I cant bring myself to go back. I've driven there many times and Ive been to catolic and protestant churches since without issue but im afraid of the feeling i was overwhelmed with last time.
Satan will try to keep us away from these good and salvfic things. Do not listen to him! I had felt much the same things, but now I will be received near the end of lent. Go to church. It will help :)
Don’t be afraid, brother. I’ve only been attending for about a month, but the experiences i have are very profound to me. The liturgies have brought me to tears 3/4 weeks i have attended so far. I’ve been brought to tears at my old protestant churches before too, but this is different somehow. Wherever He is leading you, don’t be afraid to follow. The goal is to become more like Christ and grow closer in relationship to God. Don’t let your fear rob you
@alexlight4178 Yup. Either take it slow or attend a Great Compline evening service. Services during Great Lent are intense.....in an absolutely, exhaustingly wonderful way. I think I did 55 full prostration last night, and I'm old!
@@workthenumberswjakeall understanding of scriptures must be done through the lense of the church. Reading the Bible outside of the church understanding leads to delusion
Thank you Father for sharing your inspirational life story. I will follow your advice in bringing my adult children back to Orthodoxy. In retrospect I failed in this as their parent. Please pray for me!
Siyo (hello) Thank you Father Timmothy for sharing the words God gives you with us here on the internet. I practice and study our Orthodoxy and work for the Cherokee Nation and was asked to provide a bible study on the campus of a Job Corp which is partially operated by the US government. The class consists of all denominations. I must say the students inspire me so much. I have one student I ask for prayers for him. His name is David and I can see in him a desire and faith that will lead him into our priesthood. Please pray for us. Wado (thanks)
Thank you for sharing your story father!I am also a cradle orthodox who converted/ reverted back to holy orthodoxy after spending many years away. Now I am trying to lead my family into the fullness of truth. Please pray for me!
A question from a Protestant pastor is what brought me to Orthodoxy. He asked “do you pray?” and I said I don’t know how and this humiliating answer is what led me to read the early ascetics and I had a somewhat familiarity with Catholicism and knew about St Antony to some degree. Once I read the Life of Antony, I was sold. This is the living Church. But if it wasn’t for his question and my lack of an answer, I wouldn’t be here
@@cigler3299 if you talked to Catholics they say they are the true church..the Orthodox say they they true apostolic... Protestants on the hand focus on a personal relationship with Christ...they are not so much into asking people to join their Churches because they are the true church ..the church is the mystical body of Christ which you join when you confess Jesus as Lord and are saved..this Catholic, Orthodox are just an expression of that mystical church..the members of Christ.
@@marincusman9303 how does one become the body of Christ? By church do you mean a multitude of believers in Christ or you mean Orthodox Church members only ?
I'm Eastern European and Eastern Orthodoxy is my faith from birth, but reading about a Protestant (Queen Jane I of England - Jane Grey) definitely made me take the faith much more seriously than I did before. I was deeply impressed by her and her story, it touched my core being and made me ask/decide where I want my life to go from now on.
Of course I agree with you but we should learn more willingness to know about Christ study detail (Orthodox, Catholic, protestant) you will pick the truth My brother study more and ask your spiritual Father
Doesn't matter if youre Catholic, Protestant or Orthodox. The pews in all those Church's are filled with true believers and the self decieved. Thank God that Christ knows his own and where we all are.
I thank God for my struggles, my past, and my time in desolation. Without it, I would have never known God's grace and power. God gave me all that I asked for that was bad for me. He never left me. He was patient through my struggles and then he showed His grace through the painful realization that I had been led astray.. and when I thought I was all alone, Jesus was right there to embrace me.
Father, I think your life experience is similar to most cradle Orthodox children. It was certainly mine. We do a terrible job of educating our youth. Until I was 50 years old, I had an Augustine/Anselm understanding of the plan of salvation. I teach teenagers in Sunday School now and make certain to teach our theology and why we do what we do and how important prayer is to our connection to Christ. I never really prayed until I was 50, except when I was in need. The next time I'm in Phoenix, I'll invite you to lunch.
Off topic, but this priest looks so familiar to me. Then I realized he looks like the actor Patrick Stewart (Star Trek- Sean Luc Pickard) with a beard!
We are all members of the body of Christ, as Christians we need to unify in action. As long as we agree on the essential dogma; virgin birth, sinless, death and resurrection, trinity. The open handed things that different churches interpret we can agree upon in heaven or Christs return
I am a Catholic and just went to a Greek Orthodox church for a funeral. It was very nice..but all Greek to me. Sorry had to. I did learn that we do the sign if the cross slightly differently.
Thank you for your story. Question, with someone of that nature, faith, and relationship, would you pray with her if she led the prayer? And if not (I understand why you wouldn’t) but can you explain how you’d explain it to her? I am having this issue now and need help explaining myself to Protestant family and friends who I’m close with (I was once Protestant but now Orthodox).
Look and listen or read what St.Paisios told the Roman Catholics when they asked if they can pray the Lord’s Prayer with him. He gently and humbly and lovingly declined. He said he did not want to make them think as if they have the same faith or religion. As Orthodox we are not allowed to pray with heterodox faiths. Speak to a priest more about this on how he would direct you on this with your family.
As usual, there's very many strong opinions on the Internet concerning exactly this question. For a different perspective you can search for the article "Praying With The Heterodox" by Archpriest Michael Gillis. Personally, I pray with my heterodox family. But I don't take part in communion in their church.
I'm a protestant missionary who works in the Balkans. We came here to evangelize Muslims, but also work with many people from Orthodox Christian backgrounds. As a brother in Christ to a leader in the Orthodox church, I ask you this: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, teach your people to read the Bible. I've met far to many people who consider themselves Orthodox Christians but have never read the Bible. Many of the priests here even discourage people from reading the Bible.
There is no true love for Him if we don't read and hear His word daily. My people (Serbs) are unique orthodox christian people, they read His word in the Scripture far less than any. I have to say that you are right for that case and recommendation
Reading the bible outside of the tradition that explains it is unhelpful, and can even be harmful. As someone who nearly left the faith altogether, Im so thankful Orthodoxy found me before I began an entirely different path. It makes sense why priests advocate to read the bible, with the assistance of the literature of the Saints who lived nearer the time of the authorship. Modern bibles remove so much from the true text, it's dangerous
As a church, you need to say things like this more. I would be Orthodox if I could do whatever I wanted. But the two churches I attended where culturally homogenous and cold to newcomers. I felt like I was annoying the other parishioners and clergy. This is not the only reason I am not orthodox, but this pride, coldness, and instinct to look down your nose at everyone else pushes so many away from you. And it's uniquely styled in the orthodox church. The Latin Mass tradcath church I attend on occasion (when I get annoyed by my non-denominational churches shallow worship) makes me feel like they actually want me there, even when they get self-righteous. TLDR: This is wonderful, Orthodoxy will do better if it makes outsiders feel like their conversion is desired.
My church is of the OCA, which is specifically american as opposed to greek russian or antiochian. It was created partly bc of the phenomenon youre mentioning, and a need for more openness. Look for an oca church near you.
I’m a convert to EO in Australia and don’t know where you are but if it is a country of diaspora perhaps I can shed some light on your ( lack of ) reception at these two churches. Almost all migrants in the past were simple people from monoethnic/cultural countries who cling to the church often to feel safe in what is either a country hostile to or perceived to be hostile to their identity. Hence the services in Greek or Arabic etc. In addition these countries have often been persecuted and over time their ethnos and faith become synonymous . So a foreigner entering ( who is not from a sister EO church) will be viewed suspiciously or perhaps with curiosity . Now this is not an excuse for unchristian behaviour, just an explanation IMO. We converted from Protestantism over 20 years ago and have never looked back even though most of the time we worshipped bilingually . All the best in your pursuit of the Lord and truth
You should try Lutheran (LCMS). We are similar stylistically to the RC Church, but we are Sola Scriptura and don't have the papacy. We do believe in the real presence during communion, and we have a liturgical style of worship. We are like the Orthodox of Protestants. You might try LCMS before going full RC.
To me and I could be wrong but there is no one church organization that is the only true one. The body of Christ unfortunately is scattered in many groups under Christ.
This is a healthy instinct, but it isn't so simple. Some denominations and branches teach outright heresy or close to it. Some of them miss the point theologically and epistemologically, quite badly. How much this misleads people is difficult to say. I believe there are decent, well meaning Christians in every church - even if that denomination is hardly authentically Christian in tradition. On the other hand, even though Orthodoxy is the closest to the truth and has the soundest, strongest traditions, that doesn't mean all self-proclaimed Orthodox are necessarily more holy than the most eccentric and errant Protestant. The Lord is the only judge in the end.
@@publius5128 remember what the lord said through John. This is his commandment that you love one another and believe in his name. If we believe in Jesus name which means he is the son of God. Which means he has authority over all flesh and keep his commandments to love one another as he did. You have eternal life. Remember he said abide in me and if you keep my commandments you will abide in me and you will bear fruit. If one abide in him no matter the church organization you do belong to him. Because no one will abide in him unless they are his. But I do believe the orthodox is one of the best to be with. If there was one near me I would definitely join them. But I know the lord has given me life in his name. It’s also true what you said that some churches are not his or even have false doctrine. There is no one church organization that is the only one.
Make the Orthodox, the Catholics and the Oriental Orthodox into One Church, and as soon as possible: Full Communion plus Ecclesiological understanding to retain that. Those priests and bishops and patriarchs in any of them actively opposing this are NOT from God?
@@davidowen9671 Oriental and Eastern Orthodox churches have different sets of saints, and different people that have been anathematized. Who is going to give? When the Papacy gets thrown in the whole issue becomes even more complex.
@Procopius464 Who said it would be easy? P.S., Blame the Jews all day long if you wish, but about a million Big O Orthodox just chose to follow them into fratricidal death, AGAIN. It seems the Holodomor wasn't enough, they didn't have their fill.
I appreciate the sentiment and respectful tenor here but eastern orthodoxy still believe that all others, other than eastern orthodox, are damned and going to hell ie anathema
That's not true because orthodox themselves cannot claim they are saved. They believe only God has the right to judge our salvation on judgement day. So that is not something they can claim that other are damned. We all hope we aren't damned. But none of us ( not even orthodox) can guarantee.
If orthodoxy is our soul. And I am the spirit. They must be the body, no? Makes sense there would be so many. You guys think, like no one I have ever met. It's as you say, extraordinary. See my name? You think like Gnomes. My people! The Body Doesn't Know, so it can not feel. YOU NEED TO FEEL THE SEA TO HEAR. so they can't. You guys hear me loud and clear. But, I don't know what to do with any of it. **This is why my tribe is so hated** If we move the body? Without the mind? Ruin. If we move the mind without the body? The two of us can make no impact. We who I know and know of move alot of air and never sit still and blow a lot of smoke. So, so, so many artists and singers. We talk in code. It's hillarious. "Wait, what?" Hahaha, so many. **end** There's only been one church with a true claim to causing suffering. The First thing it did was cast out the spirit, like a devil. I know, because I am the spirit people and we (for the pretty protties) HAVE NEVER STOPPED YELLING ABOUT IT. ( -we can go anywhere- )
Calling himself Father is against Jesus own teaching. . Matthew 23:9 . And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. . This man refuses JESUS teachings.
I make all my children call me Father/Dad rather than my first name. That’s something that I’ve only ever heard YANKEE children do not well raised Southern children. Am I against Jesus’ teaching ?
The types of proofs you demand are not what prove that which you want proven. Materialism and pure rationality are a total dead end. You're starting from a faulty beginning. Change the question and your conception of proper answers, then look again.
the proof which i demand is valid always which you cannot proove. reason and logic destroys your god.. i will not need to change my question proove that lord nonsense exists ..
FAITH IS NOT THE PATH TO TRUTH OR KNOWLEDGE OR UNDERSTANDING BUT IT IS GULLLIBILITY. ONE CAN BELIEVE ANYTHING ON FAITH ANFD FAITH IS THE MOST DISHONEST POSITION ONE CAN HAVE AND FAITH IS ABSENSE O F EVIDENCE ... WE STILL DONT KNOW IF JESUS REALLY EXISTED OR LIVED ...
Don't forget that we are in year 2024! Why? Because when God came in the flesh body, He split history (before / after Christ) "Jesus answered, “I am the Way and the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me" (John 14:6) He is King of kings! By His blood at the cross, your sin can be washed away if you repent and come to Him! Please receive Him as your Savior into your heart! 🤗👋
Every major biblical scholar, many of whom are atheists, grant that Jesus existed. Ancient roman historians confirmed he was crucified. Whether or not the ressurection happened is a different matter. The fact that we are in the year 2024 is not relevant. You can argue against the ressurection, but you are the in the fringe to deny the vast majority of historical evidence and claim that a Jesus of Nazareth never existed. If you want to claim Jesus' never existed, then I'd like you to be consistent and deny the existence of other historical figures with fewer evidential sources such as Alexander the Great, Socrates, Pericles, Homer, and Hanibal of Carthage to name a few.
Thank you for speaking kindly about protestants!
Right, Its quite rare among Orthodox in the online-sphere...
@@josephteologen I agree. All too rare. Yet it is truly Orthodox, and speaking antagonistically is not. The measure is love, the love of God. Pray forgive us Orthodox who fail to show His love as we ought, for we too are sinners.
Yeah but they still believe that all others, other than orthodox, are damned and going to hell ie anathema
Christians have failed to sell Jesus Christ to Jews for 2000 years. Atheists don't buy Christianity because they are literate.
@@justinchamberlain3443not accurate
I feel a connection between Protestants, Orthodox Christians and Catholics becoming real. It's very beautiful. We're all fighting against the same thing.
We are all trying to follow Christ. But one can truly follow Christ in spirit and in truth. We believe this fullness of spirit and truth is in the Orthodox Church. In the heterodox faith, this spirit and truth is limited, that is why others outside can still experience some kind of grace, but not in its fullness. Ñ As Orthodox we are very much against ecumenism, because we do not have the same faith as Protestants and Roman Catholics. But we do not condemn nor limit God to using those in the heterodox faith to help others. “If he is not against us, he is for us”. We encourage all to become Orthodox for it is the True church that Christ established.
@@OrthoNektarios Protestants say the same about Orthodxy and Catholicism. We admit that they can be saved by the power of Jesus Christ, but that the plenty of true orthodoxy and catholicity is only found in Reformed biblical doctrine (i.e., Protestantism). Thus, I think we can, at least, have a brotherly union meanwhile the doctrinal unity doesn't come.
@@OrthoNektariosthe metropolitan of Cyprus cays we shouldn’t debate or enter these discussions with the heterodox and heretics.
Love you my brother
I understand. However, there are some legitimate concerns I have in terms of theology that I don't seem to agree with in regards to the Orthodox Church's beliefs. I need to do further study. God bless.@@OrthoNektarios
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You should read the History of the Church, familiarize yourself with the tradition of the Church before the Holy Scriptures were created by Saint Irenaeus of Lyons.
A Protestant church camp built the foundation of my faith, and Orthodoxy bulit the house of faith on that solid foundation. I wouldn't be Orthodox without that camp.
Beautifully said.
Thank you Father! I’m newly converted to Christianity a little less than a year ago! I’m beyond grateful for the Protestants who’ve helped me build my faith in Christ! I must say I absolutely adore how much love and respect the Orthodox Christians show our Lord! So much that I feel called to it!
If it weren't for my Methodist protestant grandparents, a seed of faith would not have been planted in my youth. Glory to God for all things.
I just wanted to comment and remind all of my Orthodox brothers and sister that when we see people saying hateful things about The Faith and the faithful, please remember these are exactly the people we need to pray for and show love to in turn.
Save, Lord, and have mercy on those who hate and offend me, and do me harm. Do not let them perish because of me, a sinner.
God bless the evangelistic instinct in the Protestant church
So glad to hear protestantism having a good effect on others (even our Orthodox brothers and sisters). We should be working together to bring Christ to all
A non denom protestant pastor was used by God to call me once again to the right path , it was 2021
The one orthodox guy on the internet to say something nice about someone outside of orthodoxy
I was born serbian orthodox, baptized as a baby but it took ray comfort to kinda lure me back in so to say. And there the journey began just to find out, I always had everything. ☦️💀❤️
God bless Ray Comfort
That's crazy I was atheist or agnostic for most of my life and had the exact same thing happen, Ray may be Protestant but really helped push me back to Orthodoxy. Born Serbian Baptized Orthodox.
Grew up not believing really just honoring my family. About a year and a half ago I finally felt the Holy Spirit again, haven't felt like that since I was a very young child but as soon as I did I felt that something essential to my very being had returned.
@@DragomireSlava Bogu brate ☦️🙏
Please reach out to Ray and tell him he helped you remain Orthodox Christian
I grew up going to the holy trinity, Father Tim had a major impact on me. I will never forget him. His story is special and I am happy to see hes back in AZ. God Bless!
Thanks for this Father. I have many protestant friends and even some that are very Christ centered and faithful. Although I know protestantism is not the true church, I believe that Christ works through them and it's hard for me to say that they won't be in paradise in the end. Father, pray for me, a lowly sinner!
The real church exists within Protestantism, the comfort in mystery is lacking as is a rich liturgy anymore across denomination, but the body of Christ exists in many congregations. We all must remember the thief on the cross who preceded even Christ’s death. Judgement is God’s. There is enough faction in the world.
Thank you from Ethiopian Orthodox Christian ♥️
I live in a country full of protestants and roman catholics, well the parents are but most of the kids are Atheist now. Both churches haven't done a good job here in Colombia.
The Orthodox comunity is so small most people don't even know exist and they think it is only for foreigners but i assure once someone enters into an Orthodox temple do not want to leave it never, our country needs the Orthodox Faith ☦️💒
Hola, el otro día estaba viendo un video de @kurateka y entrevistó a un padre ortodoxo colombiano, Alejandro se llama, muy buen video. Un abrazo desde Uruguay
You might like to hear we worship in St Sophrony Greek Orthodox church in South Australia( all English services) & this year a young boy of 16 yo has been attending on his own who is Colombian! I was impressed with his piety and zeal at such a young age. You Colombians must have something in the water there!
I am a Greek Orthodox and I will tell you most of The Greeks are atheist the Orthodox church baptizes homosexuals,and marries them go wonder
I’ve been talking with my friend from Columbia about the religious climate down there, very interesting perspective
@@hannahbaker3080 a respectful correction, the country is named Colombia, not columbia. Columbia is a city in the states.
St silouan and St Porphyrios have changed my life more than any other saints.
God bless all, and may God have mercy on us all.
It is partly thanks to two Protestants I said a prayer with on the street in 2016 that I am going to be baptised Catholic next Easter Weekend Deus Vult. We said a Prayer that day that Jesus was the Life and the Way and the Truth'. Once we said that prayer together they were super happy and leave me be. That day I was dressed in a Monster Costume but they looked right true it. I guess asking Jesus to be in your heart one way or the other will work. Even if it is not within traditional apostolic Christianity be it Orthodox or Catholic.
I love the quote that we should talk more to god about our children than we talk to our children about God.
I used to go to st Katherine’s Church father Timothy was a good priest he helped me though quite a bit
Catholic inquirer here, God bless ❤️
Deepening Our Faith: Rediscovering Ancient Wisdom for Modern Believers
@everyone
Introduction
In a time where personal sentiment often shapes our understanding of faith, the Ancient Faith, as practiced within the Apostolic Western Orthodox Church, invites us to a richer, more grounded spiritual life. This document proposes a journey back to the roots of Christian doctrine, emphasizing the importance of patristic writings and the decisions of the first seven ecumenical councils. By weaving these ancient insights into our contemporary faith practice, we aim to cultivate a deeper, more authentic relationship with Jesus Christ, moving beyond the transient nature of feelings to the solidity of established doctrine and tradition.
I. Contextualizing Scripture: The Bedrock of Historical and Linguistic Study
A. Uncovering the Historical and Cultural Context
Modern interpretations of scripture often miss the profound depth found in understanding its historical and cultural contexts. The patristic era, including the teachings of the Church Fathers and the conclusions of the ecumenical councils, offers invaluable insights into these contexts, grounding our faith in the rich soil of tradition and communal discernment.
B. The Linguistic Dimensions of Faith
The Greek term πιστεύω (pisteuō), meaning to believe or to have faith in, takes on new depths when seen through the lens of patristic commentary. For instance, Gregory of Nyssa, a Church Father, emphasized faith as an active and dynamic journey toward the knowledge of God, rather than a static state of agreement.
II. Embracing an Active, Historical Faith
A. Faith as Relationship and Obedience
Moving beyond a simplistic, emotion-based understanding of faith, the Ancient Faith, through the teachings of the Church Fathers and the ecumenical councils, presents a model of faith as a dynamic relationship and obedience to Christ's commands. Augustine of Hippo, reflecting on John's Gospel, famously stated, "Faith is to believe what you do not see; the reward of this faith is to see what you believe."
B. The Scriptural Imperative of Active Faith
The councils, through their doctrinal clarifications, and the patristics, through their exegetical works, have laid down a foundation for understanding the scriptural imperatives of faith. The Council of Nicaea (325 AD), for instance, defended the divinity of Christ against Arianism, affirming the importance of Christ's nature in our salvation-a core truth that demands a faith lived out in reverence and awe.
III. The Continual Process of Belief: A Patristic and Conciliar Perspective
The New Testament's portrayal of faith as ongoing action is deeply echoed in the writings of the Church Fathers and the decrees of the ecumenical councils. John Chrysostom, commenting on Paul's letters, urged believers to continuous growth in faith, a theme that resonates with the decisions of the Council of Constantinople (381 AD), which expanded the Nicene Creed to further define the Holy Spirit's divinity, emphasizing the dynamic nature of Christian doctrine and belief.
IV. The Integral Role of Patristics and Councils in Understanding Salvation
Understanding salvation requires engaging with the rich tradition of patristic writings and the authoritative decisions of the ecumenical councils. The Council of Ephesus (431 AD), for example, proclaimed Mary as Theotokos (God-bearer), a declaration that underscores the Incarnation's significance in salvation history. Cyril of Alexandria, a key figure in the council, wrote extensively on the mystery of the Incarnation, reminding us that our salvation is deeply rooted in the person and work of Christ, a truth that transcends mere emotional comprehension.
V. Living the Teachings of Christ: A Call to Orthopraxy
A. Beyond Emotions: The Sacramental Life
The sacramental theology of the Ancient Faith, informed by both patristic thought and ecumenical councils, offers a tangible way to live out the teachings of Christ. The Council of Chalcedon (451 AD) defended the true presence of Christ in the Eucharist, a mystery that invites believers to a deeper participation in the life of Christ beyond the limitations of personal sentiment.
B. The Witness of the Saints
The saints, as celebrated in the teachings of the Church Fathers and affirmed by the councils, provide exemplars of faith lived in obedience and love. The lives of saints like Athanasius, who championed Nicene orthodoxy against Arianism, remind us that authentic faith requires courage, conviction, and a deep engagement with the truths of scripture as understood by the broader church.
VI. Conclusion and Invitation to Dialogue
This exploration into the Ancient Faith, illuminated by patristic writings and the doctrinal clarity of the ecumenical councils, invites modern believers to a deeper, more authentic engagement with Christian faith. As we seek to navigate the complexities of contemporary spirituality, let us open ourselves to the wisdom of our spiritual forebears, allowing their insights to enrich our understanding and practice of faith.
We encourage readers to join us in a vibrant dialogue about integrating these ancient understandings into our daily lives. Let us discuss how the teachings of the Church Fathers and the authoritative guidance of the ecumenical councils can inform our approach to scripture, enrich our spiritual practices, and deepen our relationship with Jesus Christ. Together, may we rediscover the transformative power of an authentically lived faith, grounded in the timeless truths of the Ancient Faith and the Apostolic Western Orthodox Church.
God bless the Orthodox Church ❤
This is like the exact opposite from my life changing experience. I grew up Protestant and was pushed away from God bc of a non-denominational cult.... I mean "church". But in my late 20s I had met a girl from Cyprus who taught me so much about Jesus from the Greek perspective and that's when it all clicked and so I wanted to get the fullness of her way to Christ. So, I was compelled when I attended divine liturgy to yern for communion which requires me to show dedication, which is what has changed me. But idk I guess we all go on different directions. But I do still honor the true Protestants for their scriptural literacy.
Godbless brother ❤
I'm Ethiopian Orthodox. It's amazing to find this channel. I'm so happy to see Americans got a chance to learn about Orthodox teaching. I watched the other video about the marriage teaching. I'm so happy people are getting a chance to learn how marriage is defined according to Jesus Christ not in a definition of the cooperate interest to control and manipulate the society. Thank you again.
This is similar to my experience too. I was born in an Albanian Orthodox family who were as Father Timothy says, nominally Orthodox. When I came here to the US, I met a Catholic family who actually lived their faith and supported pro life causes. Also their daughter was newly converted from Catholic to evangelical and she had a new found zeal for God. When I saw how much religion was part of their family life, and how they prayed together as a family, then I started to examine my orthodox seed that was planted in childhood and have grown so much into my faith since I met them. And I have been spurred to even learn more about Orthodoxy and the scriptures because of them and to have a deeper prayer life.
Glory to God for all things!
Glory to God! I am too a cradle orthodox but didn’t grow up actually knowing the Father and His Son. I was agnostic for a long time and then by some quick miracle, God changed my heart! Over the course of a couple years I matured in Christ in so many ways and I’ve stayed in the Protestant church since then because of the path God has placed me in. My relationship with Him only keeps growing and I am grateful for my Orthodox brothers and sisters. The body of Christ is strong and wonderful! Praise God!
Saint Silouan is the Saint of my heart. He also pierced my heart and changed my relationship with Christ forever. Thank You from the bottom of my heart for posting such wonderful videos. May our Lord Jesus Christ bless these fathers.
God bless you and your loved ones people ! Jesus Christ loves you ! ❤️
My favorite Orthodox Pastor - Mar Mari Emmanuel. Watch his preaching, he loves Jesus Christ of Nazareth the most beyond anything in the world.
Amen
I’ve known three priests in my 35 years as a convert to Orthodoxy. Fr. Peter represented the Authority of the Church and Fr. Nectarios the Joy of the Church. Fr. Timothy Pavlatos represents to me greatly the LOVE of the Church. Having him in my living room, though be it on my TV, reminds of being in his dining room in Southern California and the experience and memory brings his love back to me. Father Bless.
amen. were it not for my Protestant pastor grandfather, i wouldnt be Orthodox today
@@LovingtheTruth856 no
I know I’m being called to be a Priest. As divine as it may be, I knew before I knew what Orthodoxy was. Now, I’m in the process of converting. And soon my church will accept me as a Catechumen. I’m not rushing anything. When God has prepared me, I will be ready.
I am happy to hear about your journey.
I am Protestant myself but I have always felt the Orthodox and Catholics are my brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ.
We all serve the same master.
That is what is important.
Reflecting God's love and abiding by His Word.
God bless.
What a beautiful story
I attended a Devine Liturgy on a whim about 6 months ago and It really shook me up. They gave me a prayer book and a small book about the history and theology to read. I say the prayers and have read the book. I've leaned a lot about orthodoxy and since then I've become convinced i sould start attending, but every sunday i am filled with dread and I cant bring myself to go back. I've driven there many times and Ive been to catolic and protestant churches since without issue but im afraid of the feeling i was overwhelmed with last time.
Satan will try to keep us away from these good and salvfic things. Do not listen to him!
I had felt much the same things, but now I will be received near the end of lent. Go to church. It will help :)
This.☝️
Don’t be afraid, brother. I’ve only been attending for about a month, but the experiences i have are very profound to me. The liturgies have brought me to tears 3/4 weeks i have attended so far. I’ve been brought to tears at my old protestant churches before too, but this is different somehow. Wherever He is leading you, don’t be afraid to follow. The goal is to become more like Christ and grow closer in relationship to God. Don’t let your fear rob you
Take it slow but keep trying!
@alexlight4178 Yup. Either take it slow or attend a Great Compline evening service. Services during Great Lent are intense.....in an absolutely, exhaustingly wonderful way. I think I did 55 full prostration last night, and I'm old!
Thanks GOD am Orthodox😊
Walking with Jesus takes everything. It’s everyday. There is nothing else that matters. God speed and God bless you all
@@LovingtheTruth856 huh??? My true doctrine is the Bible - what’s yours
@@workthenumberswjakeall understanding of scriptures must be done through the lense of the church. Reading the Bible outside of the church understanding leads to delusion
Thank you Father for sharing your inspirational life story. I will follow your advice in bringing my adult children back to Orthodoxy. In retrospect I failed in this as their parent. Please pray for me!
Being a Protestant for 22 years now. Sometimes i feel wanted to convert to Orthodoxy. I was a strong Protestant and intrested in Orthodoxy theology.
Convert bro
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for your amazing words I myself am orthodox who is deeply in love with Christ and with my church
Siyo (hello) Thank you Father Timmothy for sharing the words God gives you with us here on the internet. I practice and study our Orthodoxy and work for the Cherokee Nation and was asked to provide a bible study on the campus of a Job Corp which is partially operated by the US government. The class consists of all denominations. I must say the students inspire me so much. I have one student I ask for prayers for him. His name is David and I can see in him a desire and faith that will lead him into our priesthood. Please pray for us. Wado (thanks)
Thank you for sharing your story father!I am also a cradle orthodox who converted/ reverted back to holy orthodoxy after spending many years away. Now I am trying to lead my family into the fullness of truth. Please pray for me!
Χαιρετισμούς από Ελλάδα. ❤❤💖💖
A question from a Protestant pastor is what brought me to Orthodoxy. He asked “do you pray?” and I said I don’t know how and this humiliating answer is what led me to read the early ascetics and I had a somewhat familiarity with Catholicism and knew about St Antony to some degree. Once I read the Life of Antony, I was sold. This is the living Church. But if it wasn’t for his question and my lack of an answer, I wouldn’t be here
protestants simple point to Christ first...no to church affiliation
@@stevostevozz1168 I don’t understand
@@cigler3299 if you talked to Catholics they say they are the true church..the Orthodox say they they true apostolic... Protestants on the hand focus on a personal relationship with Christ...they are not so much into asking people to join their Churches because they are the true church ..the church is the mystical body of Christ which you join when you confess Jesus as Lord and are saved..this Catholic, Orthodox are just an expression of that mystical church..the members of Christ.
@@stevostevozz1168the church is the body of Christ. And every orthodox person points to Christ first, but Christ is revealed in his Church.
@@marincusman9303 how does one become the body of Christ? By church do you mean a multitude of believers in Christ or you mean Orthodox Church members only ?
I had a similar experience. A serious evangelical Protestant challenged me and made me take Christ seriously for the first time in my life.
Hello from Russia
I'm Eastern European and Eastern Orthodoxy is my faith from birth, but reading about a Protestant (Queen Jane I of England - Jane Grey) definitely made me take the faith much more seriously than I did before. I was deeply impressed by her and her story, it touched my core being and made me ask/decide where I want my life to go from now on.
Thank you for sharing father
I hope Christs body can renew eachothers faith, no matter if we are protestant, orthodox or catholic.
Of course I agree with you but we should learn more willingness to know about Christ study detail (Orthodox, Catholic, protestant) you will pick the truth
My brother study more and ask your spiritual Father
@@DawitGezahegn-g2j what is your point
He has a halo around his head by the second camera angle
Im sure not by coincidence.
He's so bald so his head acts as a lamp and reflects the light like the moon 😂
@@elontusk5198you are being rude frend.
@@СрбинуСрцу it was a joke easy bro 😀
That's right
Doesn't matter if youre Catholic, Protestant or Orthodox. The pews in all those Church's are filled with true believers and the self decieved. Thank God that Christ knows his own and where we all are.
Thank the Lord I found orthodoxy
Word up
I thank God for my struggles, my past, and my time in desolation. Without it, I would have never known God's grace and power. God gave me all that I asked for that was bad for me. He never left me. He was patient through my struggles and then he showed His grace through the painful realization that I had been led astray.. and when I thought I was all alone, Jesus was right there to embrace me.
Can't wait!
Beautiful! I also love the halo that appears behind Father’s head on the close-ups! 😇
Father, I think your life experience is similar to most cradle Orthodox children. It was certainly mine. We do a terrible job of educating our youth. Until I was 50 years old, I had an Augustine/Anselm understanding of the plan of salvation. I teach teenagers in Sunday School now and make certain to teach our theology and why we do what we do and how important prayer is to our connection to Christ. I never really prayed until I was 50, except when I was in need.
The next time I'm in Phoenix, I'll invite you to lunch.
Off topic, but this priest looks so familiar to me.
Then I realized he looks like the actor Patrick Stewart (Star Trek- Sean Luc Pickard) with a beard!
Oh yea, I see it as well.
Amen
Hello to all orthodox faith brothers! Holy trinity with us!
We are all members of the body of Christ, as Christians we need to unify in action. As long as we agree on the essential dogma; virgin birth, sinless, death and resurrection, trinity. The open handed things that different churches interpret we can agree upon in heaven or Christs return
I'm a Christian and even though I dont agree with everything I adore the Orthodox Church.
❤️☦️
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Seed gets planted at the Baptism. It needs watering in order to grow tho...
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I am a Catholic and just went to a Greek Orthodox church for a funeral. It was very nice..but all Greek to me. Sorry had to. I did learn that we do the sign if the cross slightly differently.
Cephalonia's son after the spirit of St. Gerasimos. Many Years ⚓☦️🕊️
Roman Catholics would scorn such a video title.
Even though our differences, I cherish the way Orthodox' and Protestants treat each other!
No we would not fam.
You cant have a church without the most holy eucharist
Thank you for your story. Question, with someone of that nature, faith, and relationship, would you pray with her if she led the prayer? And if not (I understand why you wouldn’t) but can you explain how you’d explain it to her? I am having this issue now and need help explaining myself to Protestant family and friends who I’m close with (I was once Protestant but now Orthodox).
Look and listen or read what St.Paisios told the Roman Catholics when they asked if they can pray the Lord’s Prayer with him. He gently and humbly and lovingly declined. He said he did not want to make them think as if they have the same faith or religion. As Orthodox we are not allowed to pray with heterodox faiths. Speak to a priest more about this on how he would direct you on this with your family.
As usual, there's very many strong opinions on the Internet concerning exactly this question. For a different perspective you can search for the article "Praying With The Heterodox" by Archpriest Michael Gillis.
Personally, I pray with my heterodox family. But I don't take part in communion in their church.
Protestant. One fruit.
Orthodox. One fruit.
Catholic. One fruit.
By their fruits you will know them.
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Silverltc - Care to elaborate?
@@AnHebrewChild we are all grafted in to Israel (Jesus Christ) by the vine of Jesse. Each Church is just a fruit.
@@silverltc2729 thank you for the clarification. :] Have a nice day.
Nooo why so short !?!
IT IS SPONTANEOUS HEALING ...
I'm a protestant missionary who works in the Balkans. We came here to evangelize Muslims, but also work with many people from Orthodox Christian backgrounds. As a brother in Christ to a leader in the Orthodox church, I ask you this: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, teach your people to read the Bible. I've met far to many people who consider themselves Orthodox Christians but have never read the Bible. Many of the priests here even discourage people from reading the Bible.
There is no true love for Him if we don't read and hear His word daily.
My people (Serbs) are unique orthodox christian people, they read His word in the Scripture far less than any. I have to say that you are right for that case and recommendation
They hear the scriptures through and through and become familiar with them through their services
@@codymarkley8372not the same thing.
Reading the bible outside of the tradition that explains it is unhelpful, and can even be harmful. As someone who nearly left the faith altogether, Im so thankful Orthodoxy found me before I began an entirely different path. It makes sense why priests advocate to read the bible, with the assistance of the literature of the Saints who lived nearer the time of the authorship. Modern bibles remove so much from the true text, it's dangerous
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Welcome buddhawhoo
As a church, you need to say things like this more. I would be Orthodox if I could do whatever I wanted. But the two churches I attended where culturally homogenous and cold to newcomers. I felt like I was annoying the other parishioners and clergy. This is not the only reason I am not orthodox, but this pride, coldness, and instinct to look down your nose at everyone else pushes so many away from you. And it's uniquely styled in the orthodox church. The Latin Mass tradcath church I attend on occasion (when I get annoyed by my non-denominational churches shallow worship) makes me feel like they actually want me there, even when they get self-righteous.
TLDR: This is wonderful, Orthodoxy will do better if it makes outsiders feel like their conversion is desired.
My church is of the OCA, which is specifically american as opposed to greek russian or antiochian. It was created partly bc of the phenomenon youre mentioning, and a need for more openness. Look for an oca church near you.
I’m a convert to EO in Australia and don’t know where you are but if it is a country of diaspora perhaps I can shed some light on your ( lack of ) reception at these two churches.
Almost all migrants in the past were simple people from monoethnic/cultural countries who cling to the church often to feel safe in what is either a country hostile to or perceived to be hostile to their identity. Hence the services in Greek or Arabic etc. In addition these countries have often been persecuted and over time their ethnos and faith become synonymous . So a foreigner entering ( who is not from a sister EO church) will be viewed suspiciously or perhaps with curiosity .
Now this is not an excuse for unchristian behaviour, just an explanation IMO. We converted from Protestantism over 20 years ago and have never looked back even though most of the time we worshipped bilingually . All the best in your pursuit of the Lord and truth
You should try Lutheran (LCMS). We are similar stylistically to the RC Church, but we are Sola Scriptura and don't have the papacy. We do believe in the real presence during communion, and we have a liturgical style of worship. We are like the Orthodox of Protestants. You might try LCMS before going full RC.
Wow you cannot stand in front of the altar unless you are a priest or bishop?
Correct. That is the Christian tradition. Always has been.
We can be behind the screen in front of the altar with the preist though right? This is where I've stood for confession...
Orthodox Kratos
Why do all the American Orthodox priests speak with weird accents?
I think he is Greek ❤
WHEN WILL YOU HAVE FAITH IN GOD YEHOVAH THE ANOINTER OF ALL THE ANOINTEDS (CHRISTS MASHIACHS)
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Jehva,Elohim,God from Abraham,the Strong,I m who I m?Plz join the New Testament it's written till 1700 years and this info I give u for no money ❤
To me and I could be wrong but there is no one church organization that is the only true one. The body of Christ unfortunately is scattered in many groups under Christ.
This is a healthy instinct, but it isn't so simple. Some denominations and branches teach outright heresy or close to it. Some of them miss the point theologically and epistemologically, quite badly. How much this misleads people is difficult to say. I believe there are decent, well meaning Christians in every church - even if that denomination is hardly authentically Christian in tradition.
On the other hand, even though Orthodoxy is the closest to the truth and has the soundest, strongest traditions, that doesn't mean all self-proclaimed Orthodox are necessarily more holy than the most eccentric and errant Protestant.
The Lord is the only judge in the end.
@@publius5128 remember what the lord said through John. This is his commandment that you love one another and believe in his name. If we believe in Jesus name which means he is the son of God. Which means he has authority over all flesh and keep his commandments to love one another as he did. You have eternal life. Remember he said abide in me and if you keep my commandments you will abide in me and you will bear fruit. If one abide in him no matter the church organization you do belong to him. Because no one will abide in him unless they are his. But I do believe the orthodox is one of the best to be with. If there was one near me I would definitely join them. But I know the lord has given me life in his name. It’s also true what you said that some churches are not his or even have false doctrine. There is no one church organization that is the only one.
It's better to obey fathers than to be bible reader or protestant kind.
obey the bible first... fathers second if the follow the bible
Make the Orthodox, the Catholics and the Oriental Orthodox into One Church, and as soon as possible: Full Communion plus Ecclesiological understanding to retain that.
Those priests and bishops and patriarchs in any of them actively opposing this are NOT from God?
There's no way that can happen.
@@Procopius464 Aw shucks, can't we at least try?
@@davidowen9671 Oriental and Eastern Orthodox churches have different sets of saints, and different people that have been anathematized. Who is going to give? When the Papacy gets thrown in the whole issue becomes even more complex.
@Procopius464 Who said it would be easy?
P.S.,
Blame the Jews all day long if you wish, but about a million Big O Orthodox just chose to follow them into fratricidal death, AGAIN. It seems the Holodomor wasn't enough, they didn't have their fill.
@@davidowen9671not as easy as you think.
I appreciate the sentiment and respectful tenor here but eastern orthodoxy still believe that all others, other than eastern orthodox, are damned and going to hell ie anathema
Not exactly lol
This is what all Christians believe about people who aren't Christians. Stop acting like exclusivity within a religion is so scandalous
Yeah just no dude. That is for God to decide, not us...
Not what orthodox church believes. Im sure youll find individuals who will say that but its not canon
That's not true because orthodox themselves cannot claim they are saved. They believe only God has the right to judge our salvation on judgement day. So that is not something they can claim that other are damned. We all hope we aren't damned. But none of us ( not even orthodox) can guarantee.
If orthodoxy is our soul. And I am the spirit. They must be the body, no?
Makes sense there would be so many.
You guys think, like no one I have ever met. It's as you say, extraordinary.
See my name? You think like Gnomes.
My people!
The Body Doesn't Know, so it can not feel. YOU NEED TO FEEL THE SEA TO HEAR. so they can't.
You guys hear me loud and clear. But, I don't know what to do with any of it.
**This is why my tribe is so hated**
If we move the body? Without the mind?
Ruin.
If we move the mind without the body?
The two of us can make no impact.
We who I know and know of move alot of air and never sit still and blow a lot of smoke. So, so, so many artists and singers. We talk in code. It's hillarious.
"Wait, what?"
Hahaha, so many.
**end**
There's only been one church with a true claim to causing suffering.
The First thing it did was cast out the spirit, like a devil.
I know, because I am the spirit people and we (for the pretty protties) HAVE NEVER STOPPED YELLING ABOUT IT.
( -we can go anywhere- )
Calling himself Father is against Jesus own teaching.
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Matthew 23:9
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And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
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This man refuses JESUS teachings.
I make all my children call me Father/Dad rather than my first name. That’s something that I’ve only ever heard YANKEE children do not well raised Southern children. Am I against Jesus’ teaching ?
You need to rethink your understanding of that particular passage.
Beware the beam. Remember the Pharisees.
The Bibel is not a magazine!
Why is it that none of you people rebuke these types of people for allowing others to call them father?
Because the are our spiritual Fathers ❤
WHAT IS LORD ??? NO LORDS ARE PROOVEN TO EXISTS ...
The types of proofs you demand are not what prove that which you want proven. Materialism and pure rationality are a total dead end. You're starting from a faulty beginning. Change the question and your conception of proper answers, then look again.
the proof which i demand is valid always which you cannot proove. reason and logic destroys your god.. i will not need to change my question proove that lord nonsense exists ..
FAITH IS NOT THE PATH TO TRUTH OR KNOWLEDGE OR UNDERSTANDING BUT IT IS GULLLIBILITY. ONE CAN BELIEVE ANYTHING ON FAITH ANFD FAITH IS THE MOST DISHONEST POSITION ONE CAN HAVE AND FAITH IS ABSENSE O F EVIDENCE ... WE STILL DONT KNOW IF JESUS REALLY EXISTED OR LIVED ...
Don't forget that we are in year 2024!
Why?
Because when God came in the flesh body, He split history (before / after Christ)
"Jesus answered, “I am the Way and the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me" (John 14:6)
He is King of kings!
By His blood at the cross, your sin can be washed away if you repent and come to Him! Please receive Him as your Savior into your heart!
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you havent prooven that a god exists and jesus is not god .. what you write is nonsense .. which i did not ask .. i hope you remember it is 2024 ..
Every major biblical scholar, many of whom are atheists, grant that Jesus existed. Ancient roman historians confirmed he was crucified. Whether or not the ressurection happened is a different matter. The fact that we are in the year 2024 is not relevant. You can argue against the ressurection, but you are the in the fringe to deny the vast majority of historical evidence and claim that a Jesus of Nazareth never existed. If you want to claim Jesus' never existed, then I'd like you to be consistent and deny the existence of other historical figures with fewer evidential sources such as Alexander the Great, Socrates, Pericles, Homer, and Hanibal of Carthage to name a few.
Great
Now his sacraments are all invalid
On what basis
Why are they invalid?
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