Stock Golf Shafts vs EXPENSIVE Top of the Line Upgrades.
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- Опубліковано 27 бер 2024
- Do expensive golf shaft upgrades make a difference in your golf game? We tested the stock shafts vs expensive Upgrades and the results were shocking.
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All fittings should be like this.
Agreed! Potentially have the screen on to get an aim point and then turn it off or put a circle for your launch window. Then figure out which feels the best and gives the best performance.
Plus hit some irons in between
I tell some guys don’t look just hit it
Night and day between ventus and hazardous for me
I work at a golf shop and always put a little piece tape over stuff and say don’t look at this and every time without fail they look right away 😂
When I was fitted for my TSi4, I hit four or five stock shafts, none of which were standout performers. I tried one upgrade shaft, a Graphite Design AD6i and I stepped into a whole new world of performance and feel. I had zero hesitation in parting with the extra cash and better yet, zero buyers remorse.
I just upgraded to a AD6S and I love mine.
This was a great idea. I have watched thousands of fitting videos and have never seen this.
Turning the screen off is very smart.
Love this.
I'm not sure turning the screen off is as great an idea as it is first thought. Unless you play golf in the dark, you are meant to adapt to what you see.. What would make the experiment better, is if the the shafts had a random order of play for their repeats. So not hitting x shots with number 1, then repeating with number 2. They should be randomly mixed, to limit warming up and fatigue bias.
I think most players would hit better
Excellent! I loved the video. I have played a lot of golf for 51 years and have bought a lot of golf gear and I know what’s good for me through expensive trial & error. I have concluded that the “right shaft upgrade” will perform best in dispersion and distance. And he’s right, I knew after 3 balls which was the right shaft for me. If you’re going to buy the shaft upgrade, try at least 5 shafts.
That was brilliant Matt! The fact that there are some stock shafts among the best performing (including a regular stiff) indicates that good quality fitting can make a big difference. The tricky bit is finding a fitter with the required level of knowledge.
You really put a ton of effort into that video. Really appreciate ya.
Good stuff.
Best test here! Love how you even turned off the screen so it was all based on feel and each shaft differs from each player so it was nice to see what shafts work for you. I love testing new shafts. It’s like a game for me haha
I love your excitement! I am a Middle School science teacher and I teach my students how to do "good" science. I enjoyed how you did this test and eliminated the placebo effect. Very good science sir. You posted all the numbers except for the "worst" one in the group. It was shaft #1.
Golf is Science...👍
2020-2022 gave you the best example since witch hunting of what science isn't. what a life.
Best shaft review I’ve ever watched. So many others don’t take the time. Use different heads or settings etc. thank you!
What a great comparison video!
What a great vid!!! Well done, informative and entertaining!
Great work on this one Mr. Short Game. You put in a lot of time to bring us great video's. thanks
Great video. I have the Tensi blue 55 stiff. Callaway Rogue draw driver. It my 3rd driver set up in the past year. Had the Ping G425 and 1st Stealth max. Callaway with Tensi blue best for me so far. 90 plus mph swing speed 225-230 or 240ish on a good day. 52 years old.
This was very informative and thanks for making it!!
Good test. Makes me feel good about my Ventus TR purchase yesterday 😂
This is called confirmation bias. Just because he liked it doesn't mean you should too. Hope it all works out though! :D
Mr Short Game for the WIN! You've become my favorite tuber man! Keep um comin!
From what I have watched in previous videos, the upcharge shafts did what they are designed for. Produce tighter dispersion and the ability to alter the flight of the ball. If I played 5 times a week and my hcp was dropping, the extra cost might be beneficial.
Liked the video. It’s nice to see you compare all these shafts.
This is fantastic stuff! Thanknyounfor doing this!
I really enjoyed this video. I was surprised the after market shafts were so better. Very fair test!
Love this video Mr short ..finally a fair test of shaft ..my favourite is the Venus blue 6R ..can’t beat it..well done buddy
Really enjoyed the video. Thanks 👍👍👍
I have the #1 on your list - got fitted at a good national chain - I'm a 10 HI - I LOVE this golf shaft. Thank you for proving my buying choice. And yes, I spent a lot of money on these. whew!
Exactly the same here. Insane though, that with the shaft upgrade, taxes and fitting fee, my new driver cost me $1,150. I paid it, but dang, it’s an expensive club.
LOVED THIS VIDEO! Especially liked the screen being off. A blind test for feel and sound is probably the best idea going. I might try to do something similar. Just have them turn off the screen. Don’t really care about the name on the shaft, just feel and sound. Thanks!
Thank you for your hard work. This was quite revealing. Obvious a fitting would be in order. Love your content. I always look forward to your posts.
MrShortGame, awesome video on stock vs. custom shafts, very insightful.
This is the greatest gear shootout vid. Well done!!
Returning to golf. Delighted I found your channel. Very interesting and useful video - once again
Had PX evenflow 5.5 in My Epic flash, just changed it to a 6.0 & what a difference ! much tighter dispersion.
Well done great job man. Subscribed.
I love this !!!!! As a feel player and a 1.2 index this was great to watch. So many players get caught up in the numbers and not how it feels . If the club and shaft does not feel good, you’re not going to hit that great in my experience. Plus a a lot of fitters will sell you the premium shaft because that’s where they make the money . We’ll done sir , great video .
I would pay for a premium shaft but not $350. I'm going with the kai'li blue 60g, Stiff on my Cobra Aerojet LS
Every shaft reacts differently for each person
Absolutely love these kind of test and content Matt. Would love if you would do different generations of driver heads as a series (at least 4) for every major brands.
Awesome video concept and delivery.
Great test. Great video. Thanks
Great video, going for a shaft fitting next month, can’t wait to see the results
Great video. This is something I have always wondered about.
Intriguing! Yes
The top shaft is mine, only in a 6X.
Cool experiment! Keep up the great work!
what a great video the shaft is everything
Love this, I’m still gaming the original stealth but did go and get fit for a shaft (oct) awhile ago. Tried them ALL and landed on the Hzrdus black Gen 4 60 gram. Wasn’t an up charge shaft but it was the best fitting for me :).
Was listening to Anthony's interview with LIV. Well done sir! Great questions!
Glad you confirmed your instincts were spot on. Shows you have good command of your swing.
Great video! Interesting results....
Great video,thanks!
Hi Matt. Great video. On the Ventus shafts can you double check and make sure they all say Velocore near the tip section ? I saw some taylormade grips and their version is not a true velocore shaft
The most interesting driver shaft video I have seen so far!
OutSTANDING video!
Nice job. Great test
Great video. I have that Tensei AV shaft that came in last in my 3 wood. I love it. Although I haven't tried anything else in it either. Maybe it's just the head.
Mr Fujikura thanks you for putting this video out there
Great video. Thank you.
This is exactly how fittings should go and testing! Blind both ways. Awesome video!
Love to see a video on what to expect at a fitting. How to choose a fitter/ know if you will be working with a “good” one. I will need to drive
< 2 hrs to do this.
Just had my driver fitting! Tried every premium shaft, ended up with a stock shaft that feels amazing, what was more amazing is that I've been playing a 55g stiff shaft and ended up in a 75g stiff, So the weight was more important than anything when it came to the shaft. Also thought I would be in the more forgiving head, ended up in the lower spin head. Had my first round, couldn't be happier.
Awesome video fittings should be this way blanked out shafts. Where did you find the Kai’ll online not seeing it except for the newer $500 one. Thanks for the info video and help!!!!!
Absolutely LOVED this video. On so many levels. I play Tensei blue AV 65 R flex and am convinced its not good for me- my club speed is also 100 like you- I thought that Stiff was for faster swing speeds. But your video makes me wonder about trying some other shafts.
fantastic best review i have seen great job
great test and demo
I really really like this approach. Don't know why i haven't subscribed to this channel before, but that is solved now :)
Fantastic video. Tons of effort on your part. More tests should be blind. Well done!
Absolutely love this
great video! thanks! for my play stock shaft is the choice! differences are not so big!
This was neat!!! I really liked your dispersion with the 2024 Ventus blue. The right or left can be adjusted by you aiming. You seemed the most consistent w that one though, too.
Great experiment. I play a premium shaft (Ventus black TR 6x). Makes a huge difference. Not so much distance, but amazing dispersion and control on the "bad shots".
Yes, it absolutely makes a difference, everyones swing is different, shaft profiles work well for all sorts of people whether it be stock or aftermarket.
Great video, thank you
This was fantastic!
Not surprised. That Ventus TR shaft is penominal.
Great video...a super followup would be to do the same test using people with different swing speeds/tempos.
I just bought a new 2024 Ventus Blue velocore+ so seeing that super tight dispersion you had with it gives me even more confidence in my purchase 😅
Just fitted with the Ventus TR Blue 6X (phew got a little nervous when the clip started lol), upgrading from Tour AD MJ 6S. All stats across the line improved. Tried many other shafts, and it was a close call with Tour AD VF.
Great test!
Awesome review, that's why i watch your videos. Great products blind testing reviews.
Absolutely love the way that was done. You are doing great. From a data guy things like this I could watch for hours. Maybe in editing you can have the numbers on the bottom of the screen as you talk about your feel and thoughts.
Loved this test. I wish all fitters would do this.
Great video and effort Mr SG....
As a follow up, id like to see the stock Ventus V Ventus velocore head to head. Perhaps red and blue but certainly blue...
I have the stock blue in my TM, never tried the Velocore version. TM offer the upgrade but they "tip" the velocore, so not apples for apples. I think the stiffer tip would improve control and dispersion...
Ian Fraser and Matt Blois with Club Champion did this test a couple of years ago. Tighter face contact with the VeloCore
2 weeks ago I was fitted for TPT shafts, I was not familiar with their numbering system. So in essence I was blindfolded because knowing the number meant nothing to me. I was fitted for a shaft the gave me 20 more yards. I picked it up today, but haven’t hit it yet. But shafts make a huge difference. I’m pretty excited about tomorrow. I will say that I got one that felt a lot “wimpier” than I was used to.
Makes me feel good about my blue tr 5s, lol! Considering 6s though with a little more speed lately.. great vid.
Under the threat of having my lawn vandalized with paint by you, I hit the subscribe and like button😅. Great video and channel.
Excellent test Mr. Short Game! I was fitted into a PING G430 MAX last year, and the winning shaft for me in total distance, spin, and dispersion was a $100 upgrade Aldila NVS (2023 version). Again, for me, this shaft beat all the PING upgrades and half dozen $300+ options. If your fitter is good at his/her job, you'll get the right head shaft combo no matter the brand, model,, or price tag.
Anything is better than a Ping stock shaft, they are dreadful
@@Pud56 Actually, the PING Alta CBs are made by Aldila (according to PING), but keep in mind that the company offers a number of free upgrades that are very solid just like other manufacturers. In my case, the best option for solid distance and fairway finding was the Aldila NVS.
Such a cool test. I'm a big fan on Tensei shafts (have tensei shafts in my driver, 7w and hybrid). I wonder if i'd like them as much in a blind test like this.
Easily one of my favorite videos you've produced... having an OG Kai'li in the top 5 is awesome (use the 70X in my 3w); easily one of the best shafts ever made in my opinion, even 10+ years after it came out. Venus Black TR 6S in my driver, for reference.
Very informative.
Great vid!!
best golf video on tube in a minute
Great and interesting way to do truly blind testing. Congrats on the concept Matt!
Hi Matt, Love your videos your energy is awesome. I didn't hear what shaft you are currently using on your driver. And your pick for "Best Shaft" how does it compare to your current driver setup?
Also I would like your thoughts on.... Rather than purchasing a new driver I would use my current driver head (Ping G400) and just purchase a new shaft. Maybe this would save some money?
Great video, for meI will probably go with the stock one, because that has always worked for me, but if you get the chance to be fitted, go with the one that works best for me.
Loved the video! That was cool to see. I was really rooting for the stock shafts! But... You just cost me at least $350. Now I have to upgrade! LOL
Very interesting. Thank you for this test. I do enjoy your videos and I hope you sucess.
Thanks
I'm looking to try the ventus TR red and blue, also the Hazrdus rdx blue. We'll see which one suit for me. Thanks for the video, that was very helpful!!!🥳🥳🥳
Shafts definitely drive the club
I found that I love my 65 gram stiff ust v2 proforce in my rouge st max head
Cut down to 44 3/4”
My fairways in reg have greatly improved
Project X HZRDUS is a great stock shaft. Glad it hangs with the Ventus gang
I will say this is an excellent way to do a fitting.
Something I should point out which I think you missed was with the venture 5r. If that's a non velocore shaft, then it's indeed a stock option! Second place to boot!
Great review MSG!
Ventus not venture .....lol
I used to golf with the Rogue Shaft on my PING Driver for about 2 years but last year I did a PING Tour Van fitting and they fitted me for the Tour 2.0 Chrome Shaft to help correct my left pull shot shape because of how the shaft is designed...
This year when I upgraded to a Sacks Parente Putter, they also sent me two premium Newton Driver Demo Shafts (4 Dot and 5 Dot) who they're partnered with. These shafts are $250 and are designed to help with dispersion and distance... Before looking at the numbers I liked the feel of the 4 Dot better based on how the flex felt in the backswing since the 5 Dot felt a little too stiff for me. On average, I swing the club about 105.8mph but if I can get my swing speed to 110+ if I spread my stance a little more.
I tested these shafts for 30min at X Golf and hit 5-10 balls with each shaft two different times just so I get the most accurate data as my body loosened up. After testing the shafts, the 4 Dot gave me an extra 10yards in distance compared to my Tour 2.0 Shaft whereas the 5 Dot gave me an extra 8yards in distance compared to the Tour 2.0 Shaft but both drastically improved my dispersion.... It's definitely worth exploring the premium shafts if you can afford the $250-$350, just need to justify if "X" results warrants the added sticker price. I ended up purchasing the 4 Dot primarily because of how incredible the dispersion was and the added distance was just another benefit.
Very good test. Did you hit the same amount of ball for each shaft? It can affect the dispersion pattern and the average datas.
Great video, as always. Thanks. I just wished they were all the same length, weight, flex, and so on. I love the blind screen. This is how true club fittings should be done. Guys tend to cheat when they know what's coming.
What screen are you using with your sports screen?