Don't Make These 2 Shaft Weight Mistakes / What Iron Shaft Weight is Best?

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  • In this video I look at some mistakes people make when picking out different shaft weights. Is it better to go with heavier or lighter shafts? Let's find out.
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  • @JeremiahAlphonsus
    @JeremiahAlphonsus Місяць тому +15

    I’ve gone down the rabbit hole about swing weight during the last two weeks. Your videos have been an essential part of that. Keep up the excellent work.

  • @Criscross292
    @Criscross292 Місяць тому +2

    As always… super valuable Golf fitting content.
    Thank You!

  • @mitch2519
    @mitch2519 26 днів тому +3

    Best video on this subject I have ever seen. So happy to see and hear someone clearing up widely broadcast myths. I have always found that a heavier iron shaft provided me with much better results than lighter shafts. The heavier shaft helps me maintain a smooth tempo, and it is not so easily manipulated. Thanks for posting this!

  • @industrialpalletworx3548
    @industrialpalletworx3548 25 днів тому +2

    Great video thoroughly debunking a myth. I was certainly in that group that thought lighter was faster. So much so I was using my kitchen scale weighing clubs and shafts trying to match a driver shaft to a particular head thinking it was going to be faster. I was perplexed as to why it didn't perform as my hypothesis suggested. Now I have a better understanding

  • @jdwond3673
    @jdwond3673 Місяць тому

    I'm getting so much information from your channel. So, thanks for that. In the past 2 months I have replaced all my iron shafts. I took a chance and went from 90 gram steel, to 60-65 gram graphite. I cut the graphite .750 inches longer than standard for a more upright swing and to help with the swing weight. I went from approximately D2 to about C9 swing weight. I must have done something right. I went from a hook miss to a straighter shot or draw. I'm also getting more height and distance. At 71 years old, I love my old AP1 irons again!

  • @makemyday1477
    @makemyday1477 26 днів тому +2

    So I instead went with the Brava shaft on my Stealth plus driver and added weight to the head. It worked out well. The swing weight didn’t hurt my club speed and it helped straighten out my tee shots. Finding more fairways and the ball gets out there further than I was hitting it without the extra weight.
    I watched your videos on those two topics except instead of using the lead tape I just added an additional sliding weight which I put into the draw position and left the original weight in the center position. I think those clubs had a tendency to fade originally and the newer models just added more weight to the club to help them stay straighter. So I came up with this solution and your videos helped me come to that conclusion. I am no club fitter and I may be all wrong but I know it’s working for me 😅 thanks for your help.👍

  • @radam2818
    @radam2818 Місяць тому +6

    Very interesting video. Absolutely agree. Light shafts are trap and a recipe for inconsistent shot making.

  • @danring505
    @danring505 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for posting this. I just picked up a set of clubs that have Oban Ct 125 shafts( I don’t know the flex) but I have found the heavier shaft for me helps with feeling where the club is for me.

  • @nwluce1
    @nwluce1 22 дні тому

    Man what cool info I've been following you for a long time and man you've helped me with my own club craft, always some new trick to learn from you thanks!😅

  • @pdmv8471
    @pdmv8471 23 дні тому +3

    The heavier shaft also does wonders to compensate for imperfections in the shaft.

  • @dragg292
    @dragg292 Місяць тому +1

    Best video I've seen on the subject

  • @rufussthoo4083
    @rufussthoo4083 Місяць тому

    Hey AJ. Nice expose. I especially like your second point. I've not heard anyone else mention that particular effect before, but it makes a lot of sense.
    I recently fitted myself for my new shafts and did the light vs heavy swing speed comparison. As a senior golfer, I've lost speed and was looking for a way to recover some of it. But I got the same result as you - virtually no chs difference. I tried a 95g and 106g (R and S) and 120g from the same family/model and compared them to my current 130g shafts and a 120g one from the same family/model. With the 95g shaft I just couldn't find the centre of the club face, so it was eliminated quickly. Both 120g shafts didn't feel any different to 130g ones so I eventually settled on the 106g shafts. That 22g made a big difference. With the new shafts, I got rid of my tendency to get my hands stuck behind me, and lost my right-side bias. My timing and strike improved, although dispersion is roughly the same, just more left. I also saw a big change in how tired I was feeling by the closing holes. With the lighter shaft, I now feel I am swinging the same on the 18th as I was on the 3rd. With the old shafts, the last few holes started to feel like an effort and the swing suffered. Once I settled on the 106g I tried stiff (106.5g) and regular flex (103g). I liked the feel of the R but preferred the weight of the S so settled on soft-stepping a set of the S flex. What I gained is a lower effort swing with improved direction and consistency, and 2 strokes off my handicap. I didn't gain any speed or distance but hey, we can't have everything. Can we?
    Thanks for putting out such great content. I've learned a lot from you over the past years. Cheers.

  • @wilsonhung8654
    @wilsonhung8654 25 днів тому

    Very good channel with solid, scientific knowledge.

  • @bsmith4u2
    @bsmith4u2 Місяць тому

    Very timely. Thank you. Heading off in the next few weeks to work out what I want in some new clubs/shafts. Moving away from game improvement And very light shafts to more of a players distance combo set.

    • @Handletaken4
      @Handletaken4 Місяць тому

      Maltby from Golfworks are great

  • @Bootyman19
    @Bootyman19 Місяць тому +4

    For me personally, I went to lighter shafts to help when I have back problems (130 to 120 in irons and 68 to 58 in driver. The lighter shafts help me to be able to move the club decently when my back isn’t super healthy and also energy up when later in the round.

  • @bruceshearer8711
    @bruceshearer8711 Місяць тому

    Great video. Very interesting.

  • @mksprt
    @mksprt 23 дні тому

    So true. I struggled with side to side dispersion for over 10 years+ due to playing with lighter shafted irons believing that as I got older I needed to lighten up. I always suspected that my iron shafts were too light since all of my wedge shafts have always been DG X100 130g and I had little to no dispersion issues with these clubs. At 62, I recently switched to heavier shafts in my irons and my accuracy and smash factor (consistent ball striking) have improved tremendously. My accuracy is back on par to what I experienced in my younger days. Of course, the youthful distance is not there, but since switching, I've gained some distance along with the better accuracy. My playing partner has also done the same and has experienced a noticeable improvement as well.

  • @douglasgardner4004
    @douglasgardner4004 Місяць тому

    Thanks for this info. I've been wondering about shaft weight in my set. Based on what you've posted here I really shouldn't be worrying much about it. I get good ball flight. I had wondered if a lighter shaft would yield more club head speed. Doesn't seem that is likely to be the case. I have tried lighter shafts in a second hand golf shop and definitely had more two-way misses. At some point the shaft gets light enough that I turn the club over too easily. My take away is to play more golf and do less worrying about gear.

  • @jenniferpaik8299
    @jenniferpaik8299 Місяць тому +1

    Can you do a video on driver shaft weight?
    And for purposes of having more videos, a separate one for woods shaft weights, wedges, other videos on misconceptions between the flexes of shafts relationship to weight and swing speed (i.e. everyone with 90mph swing speed must use stiff flex and certain shaft weight), and how these factors can affect the ball flight. Maybe even a live club fitting - video for each (driver/woods, irons, wedges, putter)

  • @toddwmac
    @toddwmac Місяць тому

    Great vid and I could not agree with you more and I've always questioned the light = clubhead speed = goodness mantra. Thank you. I love the tape and choke methods, but I did have some feedback about applying tape. With the introduction of tape, the shaft is no longer symmetric, it's drag coefficient has increased and ultimately it will slow down the shaft. Also, depending on the exact position of the tape relative to swing path, an introduction of the Bernoulli effect could introduce lift to the shaft and make it nearly impossible to make a downswing that actually makes contact with the ball. At least that's what the guy that wanted to sell me a new set of light shafts told me. :) Always appreciate your content.

  • @FozDoesStuff
    @FozDoesStuff 15 днів тому

    Totally agree. Tried to play KBS tour x 105 didn’t know where the club head was. Love the KBS Tour x 130. Feel is beautiful imo

  • @halfmeout
    @halfmeout 15 днів тому +2

    120 I always left the club face open. I was fitted for those and bought 105s off eBay and it changed everything

  • @paulbutler5052
    @paulbutler5052 26 днів тому

    Great video again! I’m curious to see stepping in shafts and the differences. Stepped down v standard v stepped up
    I’d like to understand the peak height difference, dec angle and distance between each of them.

  • @obxarms7685
    @obxarms7685 Місяць тому

    Makes sense...Mass and momentum make for better consistency. This proved true in my Son's recent fitting.

  • @xy-pk8gb
    @xy-pk8gb Місяць тому

    Good info. Nice swing. Wish I could swing like that.

    • @chrisdion8921
      @chrisdion8921 18 днів тому

      sorry mate, have to disagree with you. That's not a nice swing. perhaps, it is personal reference. lol

  • @MongolianGolfLeague
    @MongolianGolfLeague 18 днів тому

    That is really cool trick to try heavier shafts

  • @seancook2264
    @seancook2264 Місяць тому +1

    Having played DG S300/S400 growing up (way too heavy) discovered custom fitting in 2008 and have alway fallen into the 105g region and D3 swing weight for irons. Got fitted for Modus 120 soft stepped for some T20 wedges a few years ago and it was a stroke of genius from the fitter!

    • @seancook2264
      @seancook2264 Місяць тому +1

      Best description I have heard for the shaft in all is guises is Ian @TXG “the shaft is a timing device”!

  • @rstar88105
    @rstar88105 29 днів тому

    Recently I had the fun time of diagnosing what to do with a set of iron heads that were about 10grams under weight after refinishing. This lead me to begin with adding 10g of tip weight (hated it) with the original 130 gram shafts to 115 gram shafts and tip wieght (this was ok but not great) to now the (closer to 100 gram) Nippon NS 950 Neo shafts and adding weight directly behind the sweet spot on the back side of the iron heads. Now the clubs feel right again.😊

  • @petersamways923
    @petersamways923 18 днів тому

    Great content as ever, AJ. Thanks. I recently finished reading Tom Wishon's The Search for the Perfect Golf Club (well worth a read for everyone out there) and he mentioned that a drop of 25g in shaft weight would only yield about at most a 1mph increase in swing speed. Your test backs that up.

  • @michaelfenton4878
    @michaelfenton4878 Місяць тому +6

    I like heavier shafts because they slow down my tempo and help my swing stay in sync because I can get quick.

  • @marksakowski9272
    @marksakowski9272 25 днів тому +2

    It even more pronounced with driver shafts. Lighter shafts in drivers are disaster - heavier shafts are "smoothing" the swing and prevent rapid and uncontrollable transition from the backswing into the downswing. I have noticed that with lighter shafts it is much easier to cut across the line ending in a typical slice. A great vlog!

  • @mick19421
    @mick19421 Місяць тому +1

    That was worth watching.

  • @1averageamerican
    @1averageamerican 19 днів тому

    50yo old 15hc here. I was fitted last year and was surprised to find that I hit heavier shafts and swing weights better. Distance, dispersion, consistency, feel we're all better. I ended up with Cobra King Tour pw-4i and RTX wedges with stiff D.G. S400 TI at swing weight D-7. Have played about 15-20 rounds so far, and I really like these new clubs.

  • @antoniom5440
    @antoniom5440 22 дні тому

    Great video, very informative as always. Although IMO "Play the lightest shaft you can control" is a valid concept for everyone. When you suggest to go to a heavier shaft then is simply because the lighter shaft was not the lightest one you can control

  • @erichfouke3677
    @erichfouke3677 13 днів тому +1

    I remember talking to a Rep of a company that rhymes with Ring. He mentioned that they had the best results with heavier and stiffer. Much more consistent. I grew up golfing in the early 90’s. We all used heavy shafts. I’m now using 105’s and they are clunky and light. For me I think cut length at 115g should be ideal.

  • @cloud4731
    @cloud4731 25 днів тому

    best as always!

  • @johnbachman8908
    @johnbachman8908 16 днів тому +4

    As I’m a little older I thought a lighter shaft would help. Bad dispersion and decreased distance. Back to my 120 gram shafts.

    • @darylhoskins5696
      @darylhoskins5696 День тому

      I have adjusted to 110 gram shafts on my TAKOMO Irons and finally clicking but would not go lighter and I’m 67 but ex Ball Player and can still move it.

  • @steven3747
    @steven3747 Місяць тому

    Interesting video. I'd be interested in adding the nuances of graphite vs. steel iron shafts in this analysis. As we "boomers" age and like me, are afflicted by arthritic hands and elbows, graphite is a necessary or tempting transition to make. Since many OEMs are primarily offering light (60-70 grams, max) weighted graphite shafts, many of us need to customize through a fitting. And as another poster mentioned, swing tempo is a crucial ingredient in this as well.

  • @stephenshaw7980
    @stephenshaw7980 Місяць тому

    What about flex, I was fitted into a light shaft but stiff flex to stop it ballooning. Excellent video

  • @nickmillar9651
    @nickmillar9651 Місяць тому

    Great info. I have a driver shaft that is 8 grams heavier than the Venus shaft I have. Will the heavier shaft slow down my swing speed

  • @paulkellygolf3671
    @paulkellygolf3671 Місяць тому +7

    Tempo and transition will have a huge influence on what weight works best. The faster the transition the heavier weight usually suits the golfer, As always there are exceptions and no absolutes. Fitting is always key. Good video.

  • @ronaldolson3393
    @ronaldolson3393 13 днів тому +1

    Pitching and chipping is more accurate and “feel” is better with the heavy. Also light shafts need heavier head to maintain C or D range swingweight range.

  • @darylhoskins5696
    @darylhoskins5696 День тому

    Great Science !!

  • @EhtizanEditor1
    @EhtizanEditor1 Місяць тому

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  • @mikaelouellette6825
    @mikaelouellette6825 Місяць тому

    I think it really depends on the golfer prefer feel and body limitations. I prefer a lightweight shaft, I came to that conclusion when I went to my local 2nd swing store, grab a bunch of different used set with various shaft configuration and headed to the trackman bay. The set up with the heavier shaft didn't correspond well for me and I only swung a 7 iron in the low 70mph. On the other hand, the best feeling used set I was able to hit without putting stress on my body was a set of Mizuno Hot metal 923 HL with Senior ESX recoil 460 in the high 70's club head speed. These shafts are roughly 60g according to the manufacturer website, but didn't want to spend $7-900 on this set, so I got myself a set of Maltby TS3 (6-P) built with fujikura vista pro 50i shaft. for less than $500 new. With this set, I can swing my 7 iron around 76-78 mph according to my lunch monitor.

  • @wpk286
    @wpk286 Місяць тому

    Excellent video. Question - my friend (77 y/o) is convinced that switching from his regular flex PXG driver to a lighter senior flex will help his chronic slicing and add more distance. He has a good swing and used to be a single digit handicap. I'm telling him that if he solves his slice, his distance will increase.

    • @ddream1313
      @ddream1313 Місяць тому

      Less flex will definitely not help correct a slice.

  • @TheBigBananaaa
    @TheBigBananaaa 28 днів тому +3

    ✳️ I use NS850 reg ✳️ Rose Zhang a LPGA player is using the same shaft ✳️ very surprising..

  • @danielwiggins4960
    @danielwiggins4960 Місяць тому

    Good video. When adding lead tape to the shaft, I would find the balance point and then put the tape half above and half below. That would have the smallest impact on swing weight.

    • @KyleW0806
      @KyleW0806 26 днів тому

      How do you find the balance point? Also, is having lead tape on shaft legal? Thanks

    • @danielwiggins4960
      @danielwiggins4960 26 днів тому +1

      @@KyleW0806 Lead tape is legal. Just balance the club on one finger so it doesn’t fall. Where your finger is - that’s the balance point. If a heavier club works better , you would want to replace your shaft for long term use

  • @vantumpete
    @vantumpete 28 днів тому

    Very interesting.

  • @lawrencebronson8407
    @lawrencebronson8407 18 днів тому

    Great insights on shaft weight. This applies to graphite shaft too I assume?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  18 днів тому +1

      Correct

  • @robertmelvin4493
    @robertmelvin4493 Місяць тому

    It would be nice to know what the swing weight was for each club iron as that can make the club feel heavier or lighter

  • @woody5581
    @woody5581 25 днів тому

    I use a 90g KBS shaft. Need the ball height. It’s stable in my hands too

  • @TheHookUp
    @TheHookUp 26 днів тому

    I recently added some lead tape to my driver after shortening the shaft by a full 2". The good news is I'm hitting it straighter than ever with only a ~20 yard loss of distance (285 carry to 265 carry), but I'm wondering if you have any tips on how to improve the durability of the lead tape, or possibly something to coat it in so I don't feel like I'm getting lead all over my hands every time I pull the driver out of the bag. Thanks.

    • @mbillmiller1
      @mbillmiller1 19 днів тому

      I put clear shipping tape over my lead tape

  • @deepakrampal9200
    @deepakrampal9200 15 днів тому

    Amazing video.. learnt a lot. Thank you..
    Please guide, am 60 yrs, 14hcp using mizuno mp 60 irons(mb, forged) dyna gold true temper steel shaft( dont know the shaft weight).
    Should i shift to graphite shaft or go for lighter steel shafts?
    TIA

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  15 днів тому

      Those shafts I am assuming are the 130g DG that was used in the MP 60. Not sure how light you are planning on, but I would figure that out first. Also do you have pain you are wanting to mitigate with graphite shafts? These will be what determines where to go.

  • @Handletaken4
    @Handletaken4 Місяць тому

    I have hit Reg shafts my entire life. Was given a set of stiff shafts last week. Holy cow! My ball flight is now lower and my 8i hits, hops, stops. Previously it would come in much steeper, fly higher, hop and roll a few feet. Am changing balls for even more spin.

  • @VariousJ
    @VariousJ 27 днів тому

    Swinging your mid iron around 90mph will be better with more mass on the club so 120+ grams will help.
    For short hitters definitely recommend light shafts + go try them out. Each manufacturer has different kick points and one might just be light bulb moment

  • @jamesmc81
    @jamesmc81 Місяць тому

    Is there anything to be said for slightly lighter shafts in the longer irons. To help with higher launch on long irons. Ie lighter than the shirt irons.

  • @johnmalmberg7672
    @johnmalmberg7672 21 день тому +1

    How do you determine shaft flex?

  • @KSReid
    @KSReid Місяць тому +1

    I'm 60 and swing 130 g shafts. Tried lighter and lost feel of the clubhead and control of ball flight. Will swing heavy until I can't

  • @stang1966gt
    @stang1966gt Місяць тому

    Went from 90 to 120
    Hit great but get heavy after 4x a week.
    Thought adding weight at the balance point would be better to keep similar SW.

  • @mrneutral5081
    @mrneutral5081 Місяць тому

    Excellent video. I had a golf lesson and it was suggested that I got lighter shafts. I went for a fitting and the shafts weight recommended was 105g. I ended up selling my clubs and buying a new set of irons, which I really enjoy. Having said that, I’ve got a set of Mizuno MP-59’s with Dynamic Gold S300 shafts, which I bought years ago and hardly used. I have started using these as my practice clubs and really get on well with them but agree I do feel I get tired quicker. Aside from the tiredness, is it wrong to practise with heavy shafted clubs and play with a lighter shaft?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  29 днів тому

      I say why not. I made a heavy practice club to do just that.

    • @mrneutral5081
      @mrneutral5081 29 днів тому

      @@EFGMC Thank you.

  • @vantumpete
    @vantumpete 14 днів тому

    I assume this holds the flex constant across weights, as that will surely affect dispersion.

  • @trevorbeazley7386
    @trevorbeazley7386 16 днів тому

    Love to see this for Driver and fairway woods

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  15 днів тому

      Just filmed something today that will touch on this. Look for it on Monday.

  • @thetruthfornow6045
    @thetruthfornow6045 26 днів тому

    What about grip weight. Does that even effect club speed.

  • @gregboggs4721
    @gregboggs4721 Місяць тому

    What about flex, how do you figure that into this?

  • @gregmarlow2165
    @gregmarlow2165 26 днів тому

    I have a question about fittings. I have a range close by that i can get fittings at but they use range balls, them there are indoor places to get fit that use a launch monitor and i can bring the balls i use use. Which would be a more valuable option to ise? Thanks! Enjoy your content

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  26 днів тому +1

      Is the outdoor range grass or mats. If it's grass then it's a close call. If it's mats, then I go indoor.

  • @Filobus2024
    @Filobus2024 26 днів тому

    Thanks for your videos..I play with Dynamic Gold 120 s300 1/2 inch longer..Does that mean they are like 10/20g heavier than a standard length,particularly in the long irons?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  26 днів тому +1

      No, the actual weight difference is probably only 2-3 grams in static weight. The swing weight will be 3 points heavier with the extra 1/2 inch.

  • @sepetisionelatu5539
    @sepetisionelatu5539 27 днів тому

    I've played the X100 but not going to Nippon Pro 950GH which is 115g and saves 15 grams of swing weight from my body/back. The Nippong Pro 950GH is a very stable shaft and it fits me and l am just playing the S, not the X.

  • @M--76
    @M--76 Місяць тому +9

    I recently as an experiment went with a 15 gram lighter shaft in my new irons. I have come to the two following observations. 1. I have to consciously swing smoother and try not to race my downswing because I can definitely tell the shaft is lighter. 2. As pointed out in the video, my slight swing faults become more apparent which has literally FORCED be to concentrate more and possibly improved my actual golf game.

    • @nicholasincardona3853
      @nicholasincardona3853 27 днів тому +4

      Coincidentally, I was fit for new irons and the fitter put me into a lighter shaft than my previous irons. I have had trouble hitting the new, lighter irons. After some experimentation at the range comparing the two sets of irons, I have come to the same conclusion as you (and the video). With the new set, I have to concentrate much more and my swing thought is keeping my hands in front of my chest as I rotate through my swing. I think that the lighter shafts also reveal my "slight swing faults" and my shot dispersion is not nearly as tight as when I use the heavier shafts. With the heavier shafts I am a 6 index. I fear that if I use the lighter shafted irons, my index may jump to 12.

    • @user_1664
      @user_1664 25 днів тому +4

      Thing is lighter shafts will give you better distance and maybe a bit more compression for a while but they are too easy to manipulate so slowly but surely your swing will unravel . The good news is that going back to your old irons or shafts will put you back on track .
      So dont sell them on for a while ….

    • @ILoveGreatThings
      @ILoveGreatThings 24 дні тому +1

      Yeah I’m not sure which is better but sounds like lighter shafts can work as training aids but on course I want stable performance

    • @CarnivoreDMD
      @CarnivoreDMD 13 днів тому +3

      Similar BUT my lighter & less Stiff shaft became a double miss & lost 10-15 yards. Just upped to 120 & Stiff. Will try tomorrow but, my old irons,today & similar, we’re on target.

    • @M--76
      @M--76 13 днів тому +2

      @@CarnivoreDMD For mortals like us, it really is trial and error until we get it figured out.

  • @Skye_the_toller
    @Skye_the_toller 25 днів тому

    would like to have in swinweight equivalent in the equation... 80 gr with the same head modify the game a lot...

  • @danb.2605
    @danb.2605 Місяць тому +1

    Very educational. Although the swing speeds are the same, how about the ball speed? Shouldn't heavier club generate higher ball speed?

    • @Handletaken4
      @Handletaken4 Місяць тому +1

      In theory. Force = Mass x Accel
      Velocity or club head speed is meaningless. 9yr old Korean girls hit 230 drives because the club is going faster after impact than before. Most hack golfers' club heads reach max velocity before striking the ball and then as the ball goes forward the club head goes backwards or decels.

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  Місяць тому

      I did have the highest efficiency with the 130, ie faster ball speed. Actually second place in this test was the 80g but that could easily just be the sample size.

  • @thinkblue611
    @thinkblue611 Місяць тому +2

    Can you address ball flight? My understanding is a lighter shaft can help increase peak height and land angle

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  Місяць тому

      It can assuming the lighter shaft allows the golfer to increase the dynamic loft. But it doesn't always work that way so I wouldn't promise that result.

  • @laronda10
    @laronda10 29 днів тому

    I think the misconception is from shaft weight vs club weight, they probably mean(or should say) you should play the lightest club weight you can control.

  • @johnnyparker9928
    @johnnyparker9928 Місяць тому

    I've often thought of filling my shafts with sand just to feel the difference of heavier swings.

  • @billmalec
    @billmalec Місяць тому +8

    Have a friend that went to 'Big Custom Fitters' that recently popped up everywhere. Got talked into light senior flex shafts in his way too expensive 'custom fitted' iron set.
    He hits the ball all over. Left left left... Right..back to left again.
    He's always always always asking me how I swing and what I use and this and that... Yet never uses that advice. Always gets talked into crap he doesn't need.
    I just shake my head.
    I use a set of USED Hogan PTx Pros with 120 gram extra stiff shafts. Why, because that's is what was in them when I bought them. They feel and hit great!
    I pick up his feather weight clubs and try to hit a ball and it goes all over the place. I can't control them one bit.
    Moral... Don't get talked into crap you don't need at these fancy places that hire used car salesmen. Listen to A.J. here.
    P.S. I'm 65 years old...

    • @JeremiahAlphonsus
      @JeremiahAlphonsus Місяць тому +3

      Name the scoundrels. Club Champion?

    • @billmalec
      @billmalec Місяць тому +2

      @@JeremiahAlphonsus oh, that is highly probable...

    • @MrDaglish77
      @MrDaglish77 Місяць тому +4

      Club fitting is the new shark infested waters of the golfing world. Some undoubted good ones, but charlatans and used car dealers everywhere. I would suggest paying for one or two fittings, taking the data away and then building a set from eBay with necessary tweaks from a friendly club maker. You'll save fortune and have quite an interesting little journey.

    • @JeremiahAlphonsus
      @JeremiahAlphonsus Місяць тому +3

      @@MrDaglish77 Agreed. No doubt, the TXG (now Club Champion) channel creates misguided expectations in many viewers. If you go to a Club Champion, it’s overwhelmingly likely that you WON’T get a fitter with the incredible knowledge and intelligence of Ian Fraser. Instead, you’re most likely going to get one who is a salesman above all else.

    • @alfandeddie
      @alfandeddie 29 днів тому

      Did a fitting and they really put the pressure on me to pay almost 4K for 9 clubs. Nope.

  • @davedeboy5726
    @davedeboy5726 23 дні тому

    depends on how fast you swing and how accurate you swing.

  • @3n2a2
    @3n2a2 Місяць тому

    Less than +/- 1 oz distributed over the length of a shaft just doesn't matter that much--as evidenced by swing speed. I agree go heavier when in doubt. It's other characteristics of the shaft that cause issues...they just happen to correlate with weight in a lot of shafts. Swing each shaft with no clubhead and you can feel how trivial the difference is-- from a weight perspective.

  • @gperez57
    @gperez57 22 дні тому

    I have a question concerning grips; which sidze grip is better standard, medium or large?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  21 день тому

      Really need to try them to answer that question. I usually recommend going slightly large vs small.

  • @LostArkitekt
    @LostArkitekt 25 днів тому

    What about people who require longer shafts? I'm 6'5" with short arms, and my shafts are +1.25. I find the longer, heavier shafts are are too cumbersome.

  • @kevincoyle7835
    @kevincoyle7835 24 дні тому

    Does shaft launch and tip stiffness have a big play in your swing?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  23 дні тому

      I simplify the shaft launch profiles into just a couple setups. Some golfers like to feel a shaft load in transition, and some don't. That's the biggest difference from my experience.

  • @europeanprogolftour3628
    @europeanprogolftour3628 29 днів тому

    HI AJ, I hope you can help me. I have a son, he is a good player +2. his Ping hybrid is spinning too much as he is getting stronger. I am looking at a Graphite Design shaft for him, but they are .370 diameter, Ping says it is a .355 diameter. Is there a good way to make this fit? Thanks for your help.

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  29 днів тому +1

      Just sand down the tip to fit the .355
      That is the recommended method.

  • @vincenball157
    @vincenball157 18 днів тому

    Ok, what about steel vs graphite iron shafts? Seems like normally graphite shafts are lighter and of course more expensive. What shafts allow you to hit ball higher, steel or graphite?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  18 днів тому +1

      Weight and vibration dampening are probably the 2 biggest considerations when looking at steel vs graphite.

  • @mikereed3287
    @mikereed3287 Місяць тому +5

    I also think the strength of the person helps determine the weight of the shaft. I am becoming weaker as I age and have found I need lighter shafts. Right now I am playing 70g R flex in my irons and 40g L flex in my driver and fairway wood. This seems to work best for me at 77 years old.

    • @JeremiahAlphonsus
      @JeremiahAlphonsus Місяць тому +2

      I suspect that you are absolutely right. Anyway, keep swinging those clubs!

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  Місяць тому

      I totally agree. Strength will for sure be a big factor.

    • @jamesmc81
      @jamesmc81 Місяць тому

      Still playing. My man. Good for you. Get yourself in the gym though. My mom is your age and I train her. She's still skipping around a tennis court

    • @vicgeier3482
      @vicgeier3482 Місяць тому

      I believe that also, I am 63 but at 6'5" and 270, light weight is a bad choice, the stronger you are the easier it is to manipulate a light shaft in a bad way, pendulum effect.

  • @jeffnahass8373
    @jeffnahass8373 Місяць тому

    My shafts are heavy. I like it that way. I’m a strong guy. I need to learn more about this.
    After listening, I’m good.

  • @chadillac1127
    @chadillac1127 29 днів тому

    I definitely have fallen into that "I need lighter shafts" but went back to 125g and have become much more consisent.

  • @timpoos4635
    @timpoos4635 Місяць тому

    Adding lead tape weight to the shaft to make it heavier will only affect the feel and not stiffness and flight characteristics of a heavier shaft. A heavier shaft will be a stiffer shaft and be harder to square the club face if the player doesn’t have enough swing speed. All in all I think a lighter more flexible shaft is better for amateurs. I once tried to swing a friends forged blade 4 iron with a dynamic gold s300 130 gram shaft. It was like swinging a telephone pole. Lost 30 yards of distance and everything went right. Then I swung a 80 gram stiff graphite shaft. I had effortless power and much better distance and dispersion

  • @davidb8586
    @davidb8586 Місяць тому

    80g graphite shafts in my irons work’s perfect for my slow swing speed. Anything heavier feels like I’m swinging a sledgehammer.

  • @arturogonzalez-arquieta7882
    @arturogonzalez-arquieta7882 Місяць тому

    Please explain. What is the difference between needing a heavier shaft versus needing a higher swingweight??? Are they equivalent???

    • @jetro7349
      @jetro7349 Місяць тому +1

      Not equivalent, you can have two different clubs 50 grams apart and have the same swing weight. Think balance point vs total weight.

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  Місяць тому

      You need to figure out shaft weight, length, grip weight to determine the starting point. SW will come in after these are decided on.

  • @nicduynstee2171
    @nicduynstee2171 Місяць тому

    I’m a tall golfer +1 inch on all my irons. Would you suggest going to a lighter shaft to balance out the extra weight if that +1?

    • @dobermanownerforlife3902
      @dobermanownerforlife3902 Місяць тому +2

      I'm +3/4. Don't go by weight, go by feel. FOR ME, I love the weight of my irons In the shaft. It makes the head feel light. For my wedges they feel great being a brick at the end of a string. It makes me feel like in digging. I know you wanted an direct answer. Unfortunately, there isn't one.

    • @nicduynstee2171
      @nicduynstee2171 Місяць тому +1

      @@dobermanownerforlife3902 appreciate the reply. I understand what you are saying, its all a preference thing. In saying that I do need to get the rest of my clubs swing-weighted properly to match my irons so that there is a consistent feel across the set

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  Місяць тому

      1 inch I would say you can go with the same weight shaft. If it gets over 1 inch, then I would start to bring that into the calculation and start looking at dropping some weight.

  • @Independent-Thought
    @Independent-Thought 9 днів тому +1

    Question what graphite shaft would you choose to replace a modus 120 s (soft stepped)? Love the profile and weight but need something similar in graphite due to tendinitis.

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  8 днів тому +1

      I like the Fujikura Axiom 105.

    • @Independent-Thought
      @Independent-Thought 8 днів тому

      @@EFGMC thank you! Can’t really soft step them. Any view on Accra TZi 105 or Oban OI 108 TR?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  7 днів тому

      @@Independent-Thought I stay away from those brands.

  • @bayouboy8644
    @bayouboy8644 23 дні тому

    Would your advice be the same for Woods ?? Respectfully.

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  23 дні тому +1

      Woods can be a little different because we are playing them for more distance vs consistency and they usually are measured out long where a heavier shaft might not work out as well.
      I usually like to use the iron weights as a gauge for the weights in the woods, and hybrids. And also wedges for that matter.

    • @bayouboy8644
      @bayouboy8644 22 дні тому

      @@EFGMC Thank you very much. And duly noted.

  • @dannyc91a
    @dannyc91a День тому

    swing weight is more important than shaft weight in terms of rhythm and feel for the golfer

  • @gregwayne6785
    @gregwayne6785 15 днів тому

    Does weight influence launch angle?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  15 днів тому

      It can but will be case by case.

  • @tonysanta3497
    @tonysanta3497 29 днів тому

    Shaft weight only helps flatten the swing. People tend to pick up their hands and not use their big muscles. Bend profile is most important.

  • @sumitagg1
    @sumitagg1 Місяць тому

    I paid $150 at house of sport and it was a disaster. He fit me to a 64g, shaft from the 85 go I was playing

  • @imraniftikhar6967
    @imraniftikhar6967 15 днів тому

    I am playing my driver with an 82 gm shaft. Everyone tells me it’s too much. Is that so?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  15 днів тому

      It all comes down to ball data. Is your efficiency, and dispersion good, and is your launch and spin in the right general area? If they are, then who cares that it's 82g.

  • @petitedeparisien
    @petitedeparisien 6 днів тому

    will I get lead poisoned?

  • @LosingitLeft
    @LosingitLeft 25 днів тому

    I switched from ZX5s to P7MC irons and went from nepon shafts to KBS c-taper lite 110g and I can actually hit a draw now lol

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  25 днів тому

      Watch those C Taper lites. Keep an eye on the tips incase they start to bend.

    • @LosingitLeft
      @LosingitLeft 25 днів тому

      @@EFGMC I will. Thank you. Love the channel !!

  • @J2K2A
    @J2K2A 25 днів тому

    One thing I do know is my golf bag with my 130g irons and all the lead tape on things weigh significantly more than my friends golf bag. 😂

  • @freedomfighter5335
    @freedomfighter5335 22 дні тому

    I found my preferred weight by lots of experiment