Xbox One X Heat Test and Upgrade - It's So Quiet!
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2018
- Xbox One X Heat Test and Upgrade - It's So Quiet! Learn how to make your fan run quieter.
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About This Video:
I tested the heat and noise level of the Xbox One X. Then I show you how to modify it to make the fan run MUCH quieter. My console was very loud when I played most any game so I decided to modify it. I made temperature and decibel level measurements to see if my mods helped or not. - Навчання та стиль
What was your favorite part? Why do you think the output air was so hot?
Cause xbox one x is fire?
Your theory is correct. But to see real air temperature increase would mean having the same rpm on fan, if the fan was on the same speed, difference would be lower, but still present. Therefore reduced fan speed can lead to a hotter air output and a better thermal conductor can lead to higher temperatures of heatsinks and lower temperatures of the source. To increase chances for that xbox to work longer without failure would mean to manually increase fan speed to keep APU even cooler under load. But you know all that already :) and I think you just wanted to animate the discussion under video and you got me ;) Cheers
Important question, what kind of thermal pads are those found on the memory ram around the CPU ( green color circle pads). I've been looking everywhere and can't seem to find them.
They are normal thermal pads, just shaped in circles. If you need new ones just buy some good ones like over 6W/mK and cut them to pieces that cover whole gddr chip, but first measure their thickness to buy the right one.
@@w3r3wolf no they are not normal they are like clay you can actually reshape them. I tried different thermal pads but non seem to work, either they are too thick or too thin. It feels like Microsoft did this on purpose so you would have to fix your console through them.
The air is hotter due to better heat transfer from the APU which is good!
Heat transfer coefficient of the liquid metal is higher than that of the thermal paste. So it moves more energy(heat) to the heat sink. Increasing the temperature of the heat sink also increases the difference in temperature between the heat sink and ambient air which allows for better cooling even at lower air flow speed (slower fan).
Well done & your thoughts in my opinion are correct. More heat transfer with LM therefore higher temps on air flowing out & slower fan speed since lower overall temps on components.
Good that you included showing the coating step, people often forget that.
45 celsius is really cool, wow. Your theory about more efficient heat transfer is correct.
Hotter the air, and slower the means the cooling solution was more efficient and didn't need to ramp up the airflow to blow out the excess heat, that being said if your xbox is getting super loud and the air temp being expelled is semi cool, means the efficiency is too low for the system to effectively remove the heat.
Higher air temperature would mean that the liquid metal is doing a better job transferring the heat from the “Scorpio Engine” , onto the heat sink.
More heat is being pulled away from the apu, however i believe the airflow on the xbox one x is also directed over the psu so my concern would be that some of this hotter air will get pushed onto the psu as it travels over the apu. A thermal imaging camera would be the way to really know whats going on here. Would be interested to see that. All the same great video. Thanks
Good idea. Might have to invest in one of those!
You can replace the disc drive no problem...just have to swap the green board over to the replacement drive.
@Gaj I've always said air blowing over a heatsink is more effective than trying to suck the air away but while your talking about Microsoft, they obviously thought the psu needed some cooling as they designed it to have air blowing onto it. That really was my point and as you say they run hot anyway so more hot air isn't going to help much.
@Gaj there is a method to change the HDD but its obviously not as easy as the ps4. Fingers crossed we won't have to do that anytime soon. 🤞
Fan is controlled by the heat sensor, fan more louder mean your xbox is in trouble, better try some more method (other paste brand) to save your xbox.
Hello tronix! Great vid!
Great video as always looking forward to the next one.
Thanks! Anything specific you liked the most?
That intro had me say "what the fu!" out loud lol
want you to know, i used this as a guide to tear down my xbox one x, and replace the thermal paste with liquid metal. worked perfectly!!! thank you!
Might be to late but change that paste, liquid metal will corrode it
This really needed new thermal pads too. It makes a big difference. At least the ones on here were in okay shape and placed correctly so they were probably okay. Some of the ones on mine were barely touching the chips and one crumbled and was loose inside the Xbox. I don't like liquid metal due to its destructive nature and the slim margin for error. A good solid thermal paste like Noctua NT-H1 or Arctic Ceramique 2 will do 99% of the job with less risk, less expense, and easier application and cleanup. Also, these consoles benefit a LOT from an internal SSD and you might as well make that an upgrade too and make it a budget 2TB like a Samsung 870 Evo or something. All of that really takes the One X to the next level.
‘A good rule of thumb is never use reciprocating saws on games consoles.’ i need that on a shirt 😂
Surely using a cue tip that the micro fibres would come off onto the liquid metal??
Guess not. Either they don't come off or it doesn't matter if they do. The manufacturers instructions specifically say to use them.
Mine came with a special all black applicator q-tip. It definitely wasn't cotton so no worries there.
this is why the xbox gets more hotter than standart paste......its just not enough liquid metal paste applied from what I saw, so fan gets louder because the CPU/APU hotter than before.
I have done more than 50 CPU delidings and X box and either use q tips or toilet paper . It's not that serious. If you are going to overreact don't open the dam thing and keep running hot .
@ 2:00 Where did you get the silicone modified conformal coating from? I have never repaired anything like this and I am unsure if this is just a "any type works" kind of thing or if you need to be pay attention to the exact type
Hahahah! I just found your channel Sir, and I must say, I enjoy what you do.....
Your opening shot of the Sawzall... I was cracking up, I had to pause....
"A good rule of thumb is, never use a reciprocating saw on a game console...."
Noted, Sir.... Noted. ;)
Heh heh heh!
Great job. I do enjoy what you do...
My xbox x is very quiet indeed and runs cooler than my ps4 pro and even a lot quieter.
Yep, they are usually fairly quiet.
Same
Dennis Rogers Same here. My day one X is pretty quiet too and far quieter than the Pro when pushed by an intense game.
Same here. PS4 pro can be loud sometimes
Gaming-Unit G-U ye only at the games that are Harder to handle
My thoughts: The fan is turning slower. Less air means the temperature will be higher for any given amount of power.
Cooling fan controllers generally employ a rather generous hysteresis. A steady fan speed noise is less noticeable than a constantly changing one.
Your thermal paste mod probably keeps you right under the temperature the fan controller needs to speed up the fan.
Bro nice editing!
Thanks man!
apply artic mx-4 to my xbox one x and the fan still sounds very loud, my question is if applied artic silver 5 is better? and improve the sound of it or not? thanks.
Thank you for your UA-cam videos! I like it and it is a big help for me. I'm also trying to optimize the cooling of my XBOX ONE X and PS4PRO. I believe there are many possible reasons why the output air is getting so hot with the new thermal paste.
1. The transport of the heat is better.
2. The area where the thermal sensors checks the temperature gets better cooling, so the fan runs slower and other parts without thermal sensors getting hotter.
Would be nice to know.
You could only find out if you check the temperature of more areas of the Xbox before your optimization and after. For example with a thermal cam or extra sensors. I would do it, but I dont't have the equipment. Sorry!
My optimized XBOX ONE X:
- Thermalpaste Grizzly Kryonaut
- Thermalpads Grizzly Minuspad 8, 2mm
My XBOX is still getting warm but it is also quiet. It was and is more quiet than my optimized PS4PRO.
Sorry that I don't have the epuipment to check noise and temp.
Would also be nice to know what you get with my thermal pads.
If you want, I can post you what I did to my PS4Pro. There was a lot more to do. ;)
“You guys roasted me for that”😂
The liquid metal reduced the sensors reading directing the fan to lower speed and averaging a higher output on the Ferenheight and Celcious scale
Is there a more detailed guide for taking the Xbox one x apart? That’s my only worry in attempting this and where do u actually get that liquid metal stuff?
whats the benefits of liquid metal over thermal paste? my xbox one x really needs sorting out its overheating massively
Thank you so much i was getting worried about my Xbox.
Important question, what kind of thermal pads are those found on the memory ram around the CPU ( green color circle pads). I've been looking everywhere and can't seem to find them.
those aren't pads that's just thick ass thermal paste , but they would be 2mm if you want to replace them with pads
You said it all, heat transfert, heat expelling, did you try when in sleep mode? the mode that doesn't turn off completly, for fast booting. it is in the power saving section in system menu, nice video
Artic silver 5 i'ts okey for xbox one x? Serious question
4:01
Did you just try to put the Q tip with LM on the PCM?
Hey so a blue mark appeared on my switch screen. I think its burn in? My question is would it be the digitizer or the lcd? I’m thinking of sending it to you guys. Closest repair shop to me that fixes switches is 4 hrs away. Its ridiculous
did you ever do a chip temp reading?
Hey could you make a video showing ways to cool or keep cool as max as possible on the launch PS4? Even a clean PS4 with changed thermal paste makes a lot of fan noise and generally runs hot. Thanks!
Is there an aftermarket drop-in replacement fan? I think the one in my Scorpio edition is dying and I'd like to find a new fan. Stfw isn't bringing up anything immediately useful as an Xbox One X fan replacement. Because while I'm in there doing the thermal coupling I might as well do the fan and swap out the drive for an SSHD.
How long did the liquid metal hold up compared to paste?
I had similar results with my Xbox one. its the fat version but the updated one. I noticed the fans started kicking on more often and the system never (I mean never felt hot at all even new). I took it apart and the original thermal paste was just starting to harden up (still paste just alittle dry) so I put so Arctic silver in it and dusted off the fan blades/heatsink. the fans rarely kick on and exhaust temps are quite hot now. heat transfer is much more efficient. meaning the fan doesn't have to compensate anymore.
I think the reason its warmer is the heat sensor is under the chip or in the chip (just guessing) not on the cooler, with better transfer of heat it does not detect the heat on the chip, with the heat not being picked up by the sensor the fan profile wont increase the fan speed causing the heatsink to heat up, that could cause other parts in the console to run warmer. I wonder if that could cause issues with caps or other components going bad over time because of the increased heat.
Yep. Same thought here more or less. It's hotter now because the chip is running cooler but that's causing the fan rpm to be slower also why it's quieter. However the system has no other air mover and because it's allowing hotter air to exist on the heatsink and other components, you might be at a higher risk now of a premature system failure.
The “silicone conformal coating” may be interfering with the temp/fan sensor.
I don’t think it’s really even necessary if the liquid metal is applied carefully.
You probably have to do a fan mod after the liquid metal to help move the heat
1:00 thats how I removed my heat sync
Ha, ha...nice!
@@Tronicsfix well the only problem is that after 10-20 minuetes of playing a game some message saying something about over heating pops up and the consle shuts off. Mabey the heat sync was truly important.
Ya, they're there for a reason!
@@Tronicsfix oh snap
when you cant afford a pry tool so you have to use a sawsall
Dosnt liquid metal get absorbed into copper though? It ends up ruining the thermal conductivity and then you need to put more on and sand the contact surface?
Had a question cant seem to find the fix for my friend's xbox just keeps freezing, cleared cache, removed internal memory running off USB now, new heat paste and cleaned but keeps freezing on the dash board any suggestions
Has anyone tried this on PS4 CUH-12xx Series yet? Because I don't know if the Liquid Metal will damage the STEEL heat sink or not. My research said the heat sink on these 12xx series is made of steel instead of aluminum in the 10xx & 11xx. I just bought a Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut and want it on my PS4 very badly. Please confirm. Thanks.
Where can I get Xbox one x all of the screws because I'm missing a couple and also what that green thermal stuff called ?
Hello
I have a problem with my laptop
As soon as I turn on the laptop the screen flickers even in bios, it only flickers when i on it in the morning after which it becomes okay n runs fine whole day. Could you help me with this
Thanks
I have a cooling fan on mine should i still use lm too i get kinda worried because my fans push a heck of a lot of heat out more than i feel should come through and out?
My xbox one s would crash itself, or go to the homescreen when I tried to play a game, for example, gta 5. Whenever gta got to the second half of installation, it would emit a buzzing sound from my TV. Then it would shut off the xbox. I tried again with black ops 3, except it sent me to the homescreen right after I started it up. Is it because there is no thermal paste? Or is it something else? I even tried power cycling and resetting the console. What could be causing it?
That hand saw had me laughing.
i get 60°c after change the thermal paste, i use artic cooling mx4, then is like you said, is better the tranfering betwen the APU and heatsink
It always disappoints me when I see folks using the silicone conformal coatings for this type of application and not the acrylic ones. They both do the same job but the acrylic type is significantly more dielectric which is a trait one would want for protection while using liquid metals. While the silicone types offer better durability (does not really effect longevity) unless it comes in physical contact with a lot of things for example a server that is coated and frequently pulled out and handled by hand.
For folks who are paranoid even after using a conformal coating you can also put a layer of kapton tape over it which will also add significantly more electrical insulation and can easily handle the heat produced by a GPU die.
Should test the difference with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut vs the stock paste. Much safer for most people to use and doesn't need to be replaced over time.
Also the wolfenstein 2: colossus demo works great to check console noise. Right when you get the guns you can sit there and it will ramp up the fan in a few minutes.(manual save for quick reloads) If you really want to max out the fan move to the next room and shoot the oxygen tanks point blank.
Need to replace metal is overrated from my experience. I've had some on my cpu for like 5 years.
Can i change the thermal pads? And what is the thikness? Thanks
Tronics Fix I'm looking for an xbox one x top shell, were to get one from
@TronicsFix can you tell me why the Xbox is so quiet compare to the PlayStation? What does Microsoft do that sony doesn’t? Plz reply am very curious thanks
I really need the name of the green thermal pads on the xbox one x. Can some one help? I cant seem to find them anywhere
Steve, I'm in a situation where I need to replace the thermal pads. What thickness pads am I supposed to get? 1.5mm thick? 2mm or 3mm?
They aren't thermal pads. It uses viscous thermal paste: amzn.to/2E4kdzr
@@Tronicsfix TronicsFix, thank you very much for the tip. I was unaware of the viscous thermal paste. In my research everyone seems to use the term "thermal pad" interchangeably between thermal paste, thermal pad, thermal tape and vtp.
I found a reddit post where someone was kneading the existing vtp into balls before reapplying it it to the ram. Letting the heat sink compress and fill the gaps like you would thermal paste on the cpu. Is this standard practice or even recommended to do if no other option is available?
@@full95one lots of people just use 2mm thermal pads , the paste is overkill anyways
@@uploaded113redone thanks. I want overkill if possible. I had a 3mm pad, I was expecting it to squish but it was too thick and pulled the heat sink away.
@@Tronicsfix is it better to use this paste for the chips then thermal pad as i replaced mine not long ago with some Gelid Solutions GP extreme Thermal pad with a 12W/mK it is a bit overkill but hell why not and the paste you say to use is only 5.3W/mK i have no idea what the stock paste was rated at. and the pads are 2mm thick to use can't use the overs as will not work as good or just not fit on the heatsink.
where did you get the silicone I can't find the exact stuff you used. If anyone can help me with this please reply to my comment
Electrolube 15 ml Silicone Conformal Coating? Can this be used as well?
I always add the liquid metal to the q-tip.. you put the perfect amount on I've watched loads of liquid metal videos and this is the best I've seen for the amount used some videos I've watched they leave a big pool on top of the chip and that's too much!
how much for changing the Termo past on a xbox one x?
What are the instrumentals to this video?🤔
Hey I had a question I just bought an Xbox one x and I press the Xbox button to turn it off but I can hear it still on after 5 mins how can I fully turn it off please help ?
awesome video!
Thanks!
Wouldnt a QTip risk leaving behind micro fibers preventing solid contact? I personally have never used them when applying anything to the CPU.
Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. And I also thought liquid metal was not to be used with copper heatsinks.
@@LousWRXYeah, He has a newer video showing how it molded with the copper.
@@ajdrig Yeah I just watched it. Supposedly long term use of liquid metal will corrode copper, and it looks it was in the process of doing that by imbedding into it.
Why didn't you replace thermal pads?
Nice vid,But my ps4s HDMI port got bent by my cousin from jamming the cord in my system..I haven’t been able to play it in over a year.And since Read dead is coming out I want to get it fixed,If I send it to you can you fix it?I got the money.I just want my system back to normal
Why not to use regular good quality thermo compound like Gelid GC Extreme or Noctua? That's not a highly overcloocked CPU and don't required liquid metal. With good thermal paste final effect will be the same but cheaper, easier and saver.
Should play Battlefront 2 or load the community screen up on State of Decay 2 that sends the fans into overdrive for so odd reason
I do not have that problem playing Battlefront 2 at all. It stays silent. I have played for 2 hours before I heard the fan on mine and it was not for long. I have had my One X for about a year and a half playing a lot of games and have never modified or touched anything. Its in an open area and I have never had any problems. It really does not matter now because the Series X will be replacing mine very soon:P
Nice ... I love your videos and your jobs...
Hey thanks!
@@Tronicsfix i have one question my ps4 is fat model what Is the best thermal paste for my model i apply MX4 ..
i did my xbox one x i just used thermal paste and replaced the thermal pads as well as it a 3 years old and they were dry and cracking so doing this is worth it a lot. The noise before this was blowing full speed when on games like new cod and 4k games now i redid it fan does not speed up as much and warmer air out the back. so the warmer the air out the back the better it at cooling it down. this is a must for consoles that are out of warranty and old advise not to do it in warranty as it will void it so if anything breaks in future bare that in mind.
Can you use monster magnet for the fan
its better heat transfer, the APU die is way cooler than the stock one
This would be correct.
That's what I think too.
Great video bro
Hey thanks!
Conductonaut is great. Since I’ve installed it on my ps4 pro’s heatsink/apu it’s so much more quiet. I’m wondering though why the one x needs it... I thought it has an efficient vapor chamber cooling solution.
yea but if its interface material isnt upto snuff it doesnt matter how good the vapor chamber is
I'm not sure I'd say it "needs" it in most cases, but it's sure quiet with it installed.
@@Tronicsfix because the thermal paste is of poor quality, the vapor chamber heatsink is an old but efficient design but any heatsink will be poor with a basic mass produced cheap thermal paste on any console and mass produced pc, thats why a lot of modders pc maker's always buy aftermarket thermal paste.
@@nickmanhota324 so i heard xbox uses cheap thermal paste that breaks down after your warranty is over so then u have to spend mad money just to have Microsoft fix something they knew was going to happen to the xbox after the 1 year manufactures warranty expires which imo is stranger noone has ever tried sueing them for that.
Hey Steve how can I send you my Xbox one X to have it fixed ?
hello is it possible to install another better quality airflow
I put ice cubes on mine when it gets hot.
That's one way to keep it cool.
MrZACATECANO100 yeah
Yikes..........whats your thought on arctic silver 5 ? LOL Busted out the power tools 😂
Good video bro!
Hey thanks!
At the beginning of the video, I really thought you sawed the radiator). Is it possible to easily remove the aluminum radiator, without destroying the vct panel, for installing a copper radiator on it?
No, it's not easy to remove. It looks to be riveted or welded on.
Can anyone confirm the thermal pads used for the ram? I need to replace mine. Microsoft sent me a really loud replacement console this week and my warranty is due to expire in a week. I replaced the thermal paste and now it is nice and quiet, but the thermal pads on the ram had cracked, crumbled, and dried out. I don't want to leave it in that state long-term.
Please help. My XB1X keeps shutting off due to over heating, even after replacing thermal pads and thermal paste, as well as cleaning it all out. I’ve done a full system restart and I even upgraded the hard drive to an ssd. It sits in an open area with cool air flow. I tried calling Microsoft and all they said was “give us $250 and we’ll have a look at it”… not sure what I can do next for it. Open to any thoughts and suggestions. Thanks
Are you sure your fan is working lol
Would this help with an original PS3 fat?
Doesn't Liquid metal dry up when in contact with copper after a while (reaction)? I've heard that the heat sink surfaces need to be nickel plated to resolve this.
I'm going to be doing a teadown on this X in a month or so to see how the heat sink looks.
@@Tronicsfix Did you do this?
@@Tronicsfix Can you please do this, it would be very informative as to know if yes or no the fears are justified or not using this liquid metal.
I would like to know if it's possible or even needed to replace the thermal pads? Could we do thermal paste instead of the pads? Thoughts?
Needed, no. Possible, yes. They aren't pads though...they are more of a thick thermal paste. Something like this should work: amzn.to/2KUumRP
Xbox OG , xbox one S < xbox one X runs a lot cooler than those two , ive owned every model . Now i only have the X .
K
xbox one s runs cool n quiet
dont call it OG xbox. that is what people haave been calling the first Xbox since xbox one
I call it Xbox day one and it still works. Unfortunately it’s in my closet now and the Xbox one x is my new baby
Um, your statement is half wrong. The one s and X pretty much run at the same sound.
Yes that is correct it should be hotter on air output but cool on the APU
You had me at, "sawzall" , lol
Just got around to replacing the paste in my launch model Xbox one this year with thermal grizzly kryonaut. The fan is so much quieter now. For some reason I had to factory reset my Xbox after I was done. Anybody have an idea why?
What does the MSDS say? Toxic?
So adding metal liquid makes the fan run quiet but the temperature goues up by 20c.
Just that the loud fan affects nothig, but the heat screws the internal components so I guess its not a good option
your great at fixing these things but as a comic well .... Thanks for the great videos.
I put arctic silver on both my pro and one x. Is that just as good as the liquid metal or should I upgrade that?
It should do fine. It won't do as good as LM
Best thermal paste I use is Arctic Silver 5. My used PS4 Pro from GameStop after the third day it was overheating I couldn't play more than 5 minutes without it shutting off. Same day I put the paste in I was able to play for hours in my fan don't even kick up like that
Idc if it warms on the back kinda worry on the cables tho they are next to the vents and they feel alot hot might one day smelt
Stupid question....? :) if you have all off, and clean all off.. and re do the cool paste... , can you add some mx4 or others , to the chips around the base chip? or would that be.. as stated.. Stupid? :)
thnx
Have you seen anyone use the new thermal pads
My xbox always turns of wen I play games due to over heating is putting thermal paste on fix this issue
Interesting, I never noticed my X's fan when playing. My laptop is def louder lol.
Okay fallout 76 for 30 it’ll kill it
My issue with using liquid metal on consoles is that I can't see temps of each individual core. I use liquid metal on my Intel CPU and I had to adjust the amount of liquid metal because 2 of the cores were running hot than compared to the rest. If I could throughly test consoles like you can with PC I would do it.
Edit: I did however replace the stock thermal paste with Noctua NT-H1 thermal paste on my Xbox.
That would be amazing to be able to see the core temps.