Why There Will NEVER Be An L.T.D. Reunion! - White Goldie's Inside The Music
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- Опубліковано 4 бер 2023
- L.T.D. was a popular group in the late 1970s, with multiple gold albums under their belt. However, just when they were beginning to hit their stride the group broke up. Why did this happen? And why will there never ever be an L.T.D. reunion or reunion tour? This video answers both of these questions. Enjoy!
Saw Jeffrey Osborne a couple of years ago - his voice has not missed a beat. No electronic enhancement required. Fantastic.
It's great to hear that he's still in good form!
@@whitegoldiesinsidethemusic702 I saw Jeffrey Osborne in NYC in February and he was fantastic. My husband was not very familiar with his music but loved him by the end of the night.
Jeffrey made LTD no matter what people say. We knew his voice as ‘the voice’ of LTD
Exactly
I thought Jeffrey Osborne died. If it is true, I'll be cursed. If he is alive, then let there be ecstasy. Otherwise, I keep my fingers crossed.
@@captainkeyboard1007 Jeffrey Osborne is alive & well.
@ Captain Keyboard
I think you had him mixed up with James Ingram(RIP).
He definitely made the vocal sound that we still know today. The Commodores featured Lionel but others had credit. Not so with LTD.
Thank you for this .. Jeffrey had the last laugh! One of the GOATS of RnB! 💯💖🌹
You're welcome. Jeffrey is definitely one of the greats.
I had no idea that L.T.D. tried to sabotage Jeffrey Osborne's A&M Record contract. That they indeed delayed Jeffrey's income.
This is a perfect example of
'Living a good life
'Being the best revenge'
"Don't You Get So Mad" by Jeffrey Osborne is my absolute favorite song from him. And that includes his songs with L.T.D.
Thanks for this story. I have always enjoyed the music of LTD & the golden voice (Jeffrey Osborne) behind their success. When Mr. Osborne tours my city, I'm usually at his concert/show. He gives a great show and he's a gifted SANGER!💞🎶🎼🎵
You're welcome, and thanks for watching.
To be honest with you, this news kinda wet my eyes...very sad news. That group, the songs, the lyrics and particularly Jeffrey Osborne were an intrigal part of me developing into a young man. I was able to have a much better appreciation for romantic relationships after paying close attention to the lyrics and singing along, countless times. I spent many days imagining myself in a wonderful marriage with the one woman that I truly love and STAYING with her til the end of time, working out kinks and celebrating good times together, doing my best to be strong, protective, loving and dedicated for her, after being inspired by music like theirs. I know that I have no idea about all the details regarding this, but I am still saddened that it turned out this way. I will take this opportunity to say thank you to all of the members and wish them well in whatever they're doing. R.i.p. to those who passed on. T.y. for posting this.
You're welcome, and thanks for listening. Thanks for sharing your thoughts as well.
They we're jealous of him! He was more successful as a soloist! Jeffrey is an awesome singer/writer! What's sad, is that, LTD was creatively talented as well; but that control and jealousy can kill the joy out of everything! Keep rolling Jeffrey, the Lord's got your back!☝🏾💪🏾🎙️🤗🌹✊🏽❣️👌🏽
Thank you for doing this video. I really had no idea why he left L.T.D. Or why I never heard from them again.
It's crazy how groups would rather go from being headliners with the lead singer getting the most money/credit to letting the lead singer go solo and now the group falls off the map.
Thanks for bringing this out.
It shows the Envy JEALOUSLY of our own kind of people, when these L.T.D. Members was trying to hold back & Control the Great Talented Balladeer Romantic Singer Jeffrey Osborne.
I grew up listening to L.T.D. during my Junior & High School years, & continues to listen to his music when he became a Solo Artist.
Also I had a chance to watch Jeffrey Osborne Concert 3 Times in Baltimore.
He will always be my Favorite Soulful Singer.
Too true. What I fail to understand is why they were willing to go from being in a hot group to being in a "Where Are They Now" group once Jeffrey left.
"Concentrate On You" was never released as a single, I'm surprised by that.
So were we! That's one of their better cuts.
One of my favorites 💕💕
That happened lot back then I guess they wanted to something to get folks to buy the album you can't put al ofl your best cuts on singles
@@jimmiesmith5811 True.
Yes, I love that cut ❤
JEFFREY OSBORNE VOCALS& WRITING SKILLS MADE LTD...ONE OF MY FAVORITE MALE SINGERS..HE WROTE ALL AT ONCE FOR WHITNEY 🎤.HIS BANK ACCOUNT SHOULD BE ON SWOLE 👍
No doubt he was the driving force behind L.T.D. I hope after all the work he's put in his money is where it should be for someone of his stature.
I didn't know that. Wow 😊
Maybe not. Just look at Dionne Warwick. One of the best-selling artists of all time, and in the business for 60 years. Broke. Also, look at R. Kelly. Singer, songwriter, and had less than $500K to his name when he was arrested. We can safely assume he has considerably less now with all his legal fees and inability to tour for income. Also Mary J. Blige who said she was broke and basically homeless just a few years ago. Millions of record sales and decades in the business.
@@ruckes13 Me either Monique.
I didn't know that
Love their music back in the day and still listen to them. Just think, I was in middle school when their music came out. Today I am a senior citizen with grandchildren. They like the music as well.
Just think, they'll have great in music because you introduced them to the good stuff!
I remember the day, the hour when I heard that LTD broke-up. My heart was broken. Up until the day, I have not gotten over split up of LTD. You really burst my bubble. That was always a dream of mine that LTD would get back together. I look at the old dried up Rolling Stones and they are still touring making millions of dollars. Sometimes we are our own worst enemies
When Jeffrey Osborne left L.T.D. he took the sound with him! They suffered 'GREATLY ' without him and now at his age dude is still throwin down!!! When ur in your element and U love what U do the groove NEVER leaves U !!! 💯💥🤘🤙🤜🤛👊.
This I didn't know. Sounds a lot like what Jody Watley said about rejoining Shalimar. She said the record label treated her badly and she would never sing with them again. That's sad.
WONDERFUL SINGER. I LOVE HIS SINGING STYLE. ONE OF MY FAVORITES
That was “Coldblooded” the way they did him but he came out on top 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 !!!!
His vocals are still superb! I try to see him everytime he comes to Atlanta. My father loves him too. We're extremely grateful for having the opportunity to meet Jeffrey. Such a kind & gentle spirit! Love him sooo much! ❤
I first saw Whitney Houston as the opening act for Jeffrey Osborne in 1985! What a concert.
The first time I ever went to a real restaurant I had dinner with Jeffrey Osborne. I had just finish college at Prairie View A&M and was working as reporter at a Black weekly newspaper back in the early 80's. He was doing a promotion in Dallas with one of the big beer companies with the Black press and a few of us got to go out to a fancy restaurant and ate dinner with him. I had no idea what to order and just randomly ordered a New York strip steak. We also got to go see his show. I just remember him as been nice and humble.
It's always great to hear stories about stars treating their fans well and acting like they got some sense.
Jeffrey's catalog is just off the charts wow!!!!
Love LTD. Love Ballad is one of my favourite songs. Huge fan of Jeffrey Osborne. Thanks for this great video.
You're welcome, and thanks for watching.
My mother loved that song😢
His story is identical to Lionel Richies and the Commodores. Even down to starting out as the drummer. It’s also funny that Michael Jackson was actually the drummer in the J5.
I don’t know how your page came up on my algorithm but looking at the titles of your videos I can tell this is right up my alley. Great channel!
We both got lucky! 😀 Thanks for checking us out, and for the compliment.
I had the 8 track back in the day. Love them.
Too bad our ppl can't never come together and bury the hatchet and forgive one another.
One of the baddest male singers of all time! Period! You don't let somebody with a voice like that just leave! LOL.. L.T.D. had one of, if not the best male lead singer in any group at that time! And there were some great ones in the 70's as we all know! But JEFFREY is in a class all by himself along with a few other male singers of that era! Really sad that they couldn't work something out. I was really saddened by him leaving when I heard about it. L.T.D. was my favorite group then. JEFFREY is one of my singing idols! I've seen him several times in concert. The first time with DENIECE WILLIAMS back in '82. Great concert with my favorite male and female singers on tour together! I was in heaven! LOL.. Only saw him once with L.T.D. back in '79 with THE JACKSONS! Another great concert! The man can just simply sing his..................off! 🤣 I'm a pastor, so I try not to cuss! 😂 Thanks for posting this. Appreciate it. GOD bless.
Jeffrey was fantastic. I’m so glad he went solo but those hits with LTD are iconic.
I saw LTD live in the 70s . Best band I ever saw . They were all great. I believe Jeffery worked with George Duke in his solo career.
George Duke produced alot of his solo tracks. Prolific musician/producer. #RestInPower🙏🏼
You're right, he did work with George. He gives George a lot of credit for helping him to become a better performer.
Glad I saw this for I got a album by Jeffrey,need to go back through my collection and make sure it's still there.Ive had to move a lot realizing my music has been disappearing.If it's missing I will replace it
It's funny how all your good copies of music go missing, isn't it? lol
I see Jeffrey every year!! He kills it every time.
Me too! He's the best and has a beautiful personality.
Love Jeffrey Osborne and his music 🎵
Wow, I always wondered what happened to them. Jeffrey WAS LTD as far as I was concerned. Saw them with Whitney once at Valley Forge, PA and they were awesome.
That sounds like a great a show!
Good job! Best wishes for a successful channel. 💫⭐
Thank you, and thanks for checking us out.
It's not like we know a single member of L.T.D. besides Jeffery Osborne. The dude who sang "Apirl Love" gave them their only hit without Jeffery, and we didn't know his name, either.
I also only know Jeffrey Osborne's name (from L.T.D.).
that dude was lead singer of new birth
@@lesterwilliams3301 Weren't you with New Birth, too?
@@lesterwilliams3301 Oh, that was LESLIE WILSON!! 🤣🤣
Jeffrey Osborne was LTD, just as Lionel Richie was the Commodores and Micheal Jackson was the Jackson 5.
He's one of my favorite male singers he is about the best I heard
*Saw Jeffrey Osborne in concert last Saturday. One of the greatest performances of my life!! He’s such a big talent!*
LTD said they made Jeffrey. Clearly that was not the case. He went Solo and he still sold tons of albums. Once he left LTD, they basically went out of business. 😆 🤣 😂 I believe that if he had started out as a solo artist; he would have done well, too. His voice is rich and powerful. I loved the hits they made as a group. Not trying to take anything from them as a whole, but why try to put this man's light under a bushel?
I appreciate, Jeffrey and L.T.D their Music filled, my Heart with such Peace and Love God Bless them!!!!
I never know this. Thanks for enlightening me about one of my favorite groups. It would be amazing to see a LTD reunion.
You're welcome, and thanks for listening.
Jeffery Osborn had a very rich vocal range , I think he was main attraction of LTD ,those musicians who backed him should have help push him and LTD to unlimited stardom. They would probably be still performing as a group today.
True. They may have been as big as groups that stayed together like Earth, Wind and Fire, The Isley Brothers, and The O'Jays.
My favorite L.T.D. songs: It's time to be real. Lovers every where and Where did we go wrong....🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks for this! Love Ballad has been my jam since high school and I remember going to concerts from both LTD and Jeffrey when he went solo. That music will live forever…..
Also the group didn't stick together with the name of the group. Love, Togetherness and Devotion.
Exactly!
We don't need LTD just give me Jeffery! That is all I need.
It seems like most people feel the same way you do!
Great coverage bro. I always liked LTD , I was born in 74 so I was a kid back then but I understood those songs for some reason even as a kid . Imma check out some of your other vids.
Thank you, and thanks for listening.
Love Ballad was released in 1976, not '77. I bought and still have the album.
With out Jeffery there was no LTD and I’m 44yrs old and can say that ✅💯
L.T.D., Shalamar, and the Commodores/Lionel Richie will NEVA get back together.
Jeffery was the one with the golden voice. It appears that the rest of the members were haters. Because the cash cow went solo.
Exactly!
@@whitegoldiesinsidethemusic702 I pray that era of music returns
I truly miss that quality of music.
Wow,I’ve wondered why Jeffrey Osborne see if there would never be a reunion tour…now I know!!! Thank you!
You're wlecome, and thanks for listening.
There needs to be a reunion tour. Although Jeffrey Osborne is an impeccable singer, the LTD sound with Jeffery's voice was phenomenal, and it can never be duplicated or surpassed by Jeffery or by LTD without him. Why is it that the old Major Rock and Roll Bands like the Who, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Doobie Brothers, work out their differences and continue to make millions but our black Bands maintain grudges which only hurts their fans, but mostly themselves. They need to get over themselves and return to churning out good music.
Love this group growing up in the 80s then i heard Mr.Osborne i fell in love with the man and his voice still am 🤔
You do know that his brother, Billy, was a part of LTD also! Either way, Jeffery still sings all of LTD's songs on tour . . . to include 'Concentrate On You' which was written by Harold Johnson. So it was a shame that things turned the way you say; I hope it is all correct!
Yes we did. As a matter of fact Billy left LTD the same time that Jeffrey did. Thanks for listening!
Well, don't you think, that is a vital nugget of information that needs to be conveyed in any discussion pertaining to the acrimony between 'The Group' and Jeffery?! Because without broaching that topic, your narrative implies that both Jeffery and Billy were caught up in all the LTD malfeasance and dissonance!
Like mama say --- "If you 'gon do sumpin'. . . you gotta do it all . . . and you gotta do it right!"
#yafeelme
#justsayin'
Excellent video 👍😊
Thank you, and thanks for checking us out!
❤Jeffrey Osborne. His concerts are awesome. He does his own songs and the ones he did with LTD and LTD is not missed.
Seems like TOO 💕 MANY member's!!
Way too many. That's how you stay broke!
Look at EW&F, 9 Members plus 4 Horn Players ?!?!
@@cehayes74 Oh Earth 🌎 Wind And FIRE 🔥 You Kno what THEY Was missing??? WATER 💦 LOL 🤣😆
@@cehayes74 Ohio players TOO 💕 I met their cousin year's ago in the military 🪖 she said that scream is Allegedly someone being mrdrd!!!
Groups are ALWAYS difficult if Love for EACH other And respect for one another GIFT'S only way it's going to LAST
Thanks for this video, I didn't know what happened to LTD. 'Love Ballad', is Classic Soul though.
Where did we go wrong......wow.
Sorry to say, but we don't need the rest of the guys for an LTD show. JO is the voice of the group, and he still sounds amazing and looks good in those tight shirts.
Most of the members from the group are no longer alive
Sax/Trumpet Player Carl Vickers, Guitarist Johnnie McGhee & the other Sax Player is all that’s left over from the original band.
JEFFREY OSBORNE❤️ IS L.T.D. #FACTS!! 😁😀👍✌️
Spread his wings. Was that a On the Wings of Love deep cut 🤔
Maurice White of Earth, Wind & Fire actually turned down "Love Ballad" written by Skip Scarborough.
True, Phillip Bailey said he wish they would have recorded it instead
LOVE BALLAD !!!!!👌🏽
I've never bought an L.T.D. album. My favorite song from them or their members is:
"Don't You Get So Mad" by Jeffrey Osborne.
During that same time I was spending my money on Rose Royce albums.
And there is another wasted opportunity for Rose Royce to continue to tour (for us fans).
The only continuously touring band from the 1970's is Earth Wind & Fire.
That I know of anyway.
Years ago i saw a interview with Jeffrey Osborne and he said they would never get back together. i hope nobody's holding there breath. same thing with the Commadores. Lionel Ritchie writing for Kenny Rogers & others. plus record companies helped break up bands and take the lead singer to make some $.
Back in love
Great piece. Timely topic.
Huge, huge fan of J.O.
and his solo career...
Its always been one of life's
great mysteries why LTD
OR Lionel Richie and the
Commodores have yet to
give us (the fans) a reunion tour (-_-
Actually Lionel Ritchie has been on board for the reunion but the current members in the group refused to go ahead with it !!! The same ordeal with the “Average White Band”, Alan Gorrie refuses to reunite with Steve Ferrone & Hamish Stuart !!!
The crazy thing is that I am 60 +. And I was a mobile dj for years. But I never new that J. Osborn was in LTD.
Jeffrey is doing his thing and probably not asking the question, "where did we go wrong" ?
Good one!
Not bad, not bad. However, I believe most LTD fans knew that Jeffrey was the lead singer. Also, just to add insult to injury the last good album by LTD, Love Magic, was released without Jeffrey's permission, with a bunch of songs written by Osborne. However, his vocals were replaced by New Birth singer Leslie Wilson. Yeah, they kind of stuck it to him as he left the building. Hey, but that's show business, right!
I barely knew who LTD was and can't name more than one song from memory. Meanwhile, Jeffrey Osborne went on to be a global POP STAR and he had SEVERAL #1 hits. You know how hard it was to go #1 more than a few times in the 80s? With Michael, Madonna, Prince, Phil Collins, etc. in the game?
Please. LTD knows what time it is.
Many artist leave groups and go solo. The bands they started in usually go down hill afterwards. Teddy Pendergtass left Harold Melvin and the Blue notes, Lionel Richie left the Commandoes, Philipe Wynne left the Spinners, David Ruffin and Eddie Kendricks left the Temptations, MJ left his Brothers at 1 point, Howard Hewett left Shalamar, Smoky Robinson left the Miracles, Patti left LaBelle, Chaka Khan left Rufus, Dianna Ross left the Supremes, Gladys Knight went on w/o the Pips. People know the voice not the band. So they become successful as solo artist. It won't work for Morris Day and the Time though.
Exceptions far as The Temptations cause they did have hits after Eddie Kendricks & David Ruffin left. Same with Smokey & The Miracles
@@GarwinWayne : So did all the other artist who went solo I mentioned. Only 1 they did not do so great was Philipe Wynne of the Spinners.
@@reefwill3092 No I mean groups that still has hits after the core lead singer left the group.
Jimmie Jam and Terry Lewis were held back while members of the Time. I liked the group, but am SO GLAD they left and started making history.
Jeffrey Osborne.
Peabo Bryson.
Alexander O'Neal.
Just a quick little list I put together while watching this video.
These three men I've named are what I call real, pure vocalists.
There's not many that can step to these guys.
Not many at all.
You're right, guys (and women for that matter) who can really sing are rare in today's music.
You forgot Luther, Marvin, and quite a few more.
Jeffrey Osborne and Peabo Bryson ( especially Peabo) are among my favorites. I feel that Alexander O'Neal is extremely underrated. I never understood why.
@@kevintaylor-fj3ox I think O’Neal just didn’t have the great songs. He had a couple of hits, but that was it. It’s all about the songs. Osbourne, with LTD and solo, had one great song after another.
@@lessehead I respectfully disagree. Bobby Brown had great songs but no one is going to put him in the upper tier of great r&b vocalists. Not hating on Bobby Brown, just stating.
Wow, they tried to own Mr. Osborne & treat him like a slave 🤦🏾♀️
Yeah they did, but it's good he figured out what moves to make for himself.
I liked LTD. Like all the other music artists, I regret that they have died.
4:49--When the remaining LTD members said this to Jeffrey, they sealed their own fate. The music industry was downsizing a lot of Black bands. Some bands split in half, others would have the lead singers snatched from them, with the rest of the band thrown to the wolves...which was what happened to LTD. They had NO FUTURE without Jeff.
I guess Holding on IS very hard to do when love is gone...
I really like that information on LTD,Iam a long time fan of the group. I always hope for a reunion tour. At the time I was sad about the break up with the group and Jeffrey Osborne but this kind of thing happens all the time with many groups. Iam happy that Jeffrey Osborne was able to over come that and have a successful solo career.
Did his brother Billy leave the group because of that ?
I'm sure that had something to do with it, because he left the group at the same time that Jeffrey did.
Look up R&B Money Podcast with a COMPLETE interview with Mr Osbourne.. telling his story of his entire career before and after Ltd and his current status.. Peace
That's unfortunate! I always liked them!
I agree with Jeffrey leaving, and although I really enjoyed his run with the band. I enjoy him more as a solo artist. He is one off my top 10 best singers ever.
Think of thom bell , he summed it up " been there done that "
Oh we DEFINITELY knew the name behind that voice of his. I don't know where that false info came from.
LTD was such an amazing band, and might i also add, very LARGE band of great musicians 💥💯 Jeffrey Osborne has the most powerful vocals out of all of the most popular R&B bands from the 70's , his vocals were out of this world, I miss hearing music from LTD to this day they were dynamic 💥💯, for those of us whom don't know anything about the music business, it's a very cutthroat business, believe it or not, most bands, vocals group 🔥 usually do not get along with each other, this is a very hard career for the best of the best I now understand why so many people can't survive in this thing we call entertainment!!
As it was stated the group just couldn’t figure themselves out just about half of group members of L.T. D. sung lead vocals on some songs but it wasn’t exactly good Jeffrey who was the drummer of group sung lead on songs and blew everyone away he became the lead singer for good and some top 10 hits and other people wanted Jeffrey to write for them but the group just wasn’t having it and a lot tension within the group Jeffrey Osborne went solo and never look back.
5 members of L.T.D. Pass RIP 😓 Wikipedia reports that Abraham “Onion” Miller RIP, Jake Riley 2000 Rip , Melvin Webb 1982 Rip,
Jimmie “JD”Davis 2008 RIP and Henry E. Davis RIP 2012, was the latest to pass. Lorenzo Carnegie and Carle Vickers are still with LTD. Today 2023. The brothers Billy Osborne and Jeffery Osborne left together.1981. Billy work with Ray Charles for years. It was 10 original members of LTD. I Love LTD and Jeffery 💔 to see them break??? On Soul Train Jeffery Osborne first time on the show. When ask he said he work with a great group of guys “sadly “
Jeffrey Osborne was LTD!!!
That voice was\is so emotional...... 🎶 🎤 🎶
Love Ballad was released in '76
Never say never.
LTD they suffered not Jeffrey Osborne
Without a doubt!
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Leaving any organization can be scary at first. But, being multi-talented made the transition easy for Mr Osborne. Why return if he doesn't need them. I'm sure they regretted their actions for years.
LTD was a great band, BUT, Jeffery Osborne was a generational talent as a writer and balladeer. In fact, I would put him right there with the best of them. And, the brotha conscious also. Nice piece
My song was no light😊
I don’t blame Jeffrey. They did everything they could to stifle and flat out him from elevating. I remember their group but not like I remember Jeffrey. ❤
U CAN INCLUDE THE COMMERDOORS THEIR WILL NEVER BE A REUNION W/ THEM
Good for Jeffery.