Growing up, I lived next door to Jody and her family. She is the real deal. She is authentically herself, and one of the nicest people you will ever meet. Much love to Jody and her family.
Jodi is a patient of mine at my dental office I work at. She is one of the nicest patient we have. I am a huge fan of hers and she always talks to me and just so sweet, and kind..
Even at 46 years of age, I still get chills when I hear “A Night to Remember”. Jody’s lead and BGV’s on that song is pure gold! Whatever issues they have need to be worked out!
@@kanyegang2810 you mean Howard Hewitt Jeffrey daniels and jody watley was just original soul train dancers in the early 70"s before they created shalamar.
Jody Watley became a huge star on her own anyway. And Before the pandemic hit, I had the pleasure of seeing Jody Watley in concert in here in New York. It was awesome!!!
*Jody Watley tells another version. Allegedly😏 (per Jody's video testimony):* During the height of Shalamar's success, Howard was caught-up in his light-skinned.....pretty boy....."I'm gonna be bigger than the group, when I go solo" phase. Dick Griffey (the head of SOLAR) conspired and stirred the situation, giving more money to Howard. Jody's friend (and Shalamar back-up singer) JERMAINE STEWART (rest in power) used to call Jody and tell her they're performing without her. Dick Griffey and Howard were already trying to start-up Howard's solo career. Also, they put Jody on a guilt trip for having her baby from Leon Sylvers (obviously, abortion was implied). To add more insult to injury: Jody's former long-time lover (Jeffrey Daniels) married Stephanie Mills, for a come-up (remember, Stephanie was HUGE, during this era). Jeffrey was being petty and constantly flaunting his newfound "I'm married to Stephanie status" in Jody's face. The coup de gras was the video shoot, for "Dead Giveaway (1983)". Howard instructed Jody's limo driver to leave.....for he and HIS entourage. Jermaine Stewart had to break-up an impending PHYSICAL fight between Howard and Jody ( chiiiile, can y'all imagine this visual!!? ). Per Jody: she also denies the diva perception of the 1997 "For The Lover In You" video shoot. There was some misunderstanding with scheduling, but the producers spun it like she's being a diva. The IRONY: Howard always wanted big, cross-over pop stardom. "Dancing in the Sheets" was close.....but no cigar. MEANWHILE, Jody Watley (whom everyone at SOLAR and her former group members predicted she'd fail ) WON HER OWN GRAMMY....SEVERAL, MULTI-PLATINUM, BILLBOARD POP HITS.....and she's legendary WORLDWIDE. Her close friend, Jermaine Stewart was a BACKGROUND SINGER, for Shalamar. Yet, even HE blew-up, with his HUGE, world-wide pop classic, "We Don't Have to Take Our Clothes Off (1987)". We don't know where life will take us....or who will become what. So, let's keep our egos in check, folks.✌🏾✌🏾
I listen to that video and Jody said that Howard threatened to lay hands on Her, and Jeffrey her so-called boyfriend, didn't defend her, Jermaine Stewart was the one who was going to check Howard for that, But, Jody decided to leave the group then and there, the record label tried to intervene after the fact, But Ms. Watley had had enough. Plus, Andre Cymone had wanted to work with Jody before, but, her contract with SOLAR Record's would make that a Breach of Contract with them. The Rest as they say is HISTORY BABY!!! When She received that R&B New Artist of the Year award from Little Richard, them tears were of Joy and Redemption, plus Validated what was referenced here by Howard, that He told her that She wasn't S*"t and wouldn't make it on Her own!!! And, He tried to say that He and Jody was once involved? Nigga please!!! Howard definitely has selective memory syndrome and full of himself!!!
*Exactly.* You filled-in some of the other parts I forgot. Also, I was watching the 1988 Grammy Awards (….the same night those jealous devils robbed Michael Jackson ). I got people in my family, like Howard Hewett. They’ll say/do some nasty, disrespectful sh*t….then act surprised when I stop all communication with them (and I’ll distance myself, for YEARS). I can’t STAND the reverse-psychology & gaslighting those type of personalities enact. They try to flip it on YOU, like YOU should feel bad for “being petty” or “holding a grudge”. Liiiiike, how ‘bout you: 1) Open YOUR mouth and TRULY apologize. 2) Actually change your behavior!!🤬😒
Jody, Jeff, and Howard will always be the covenant ingredients that made Shalamar, one of the greatest R&B groups of all times. Tremendous force beyond genres!
Well said. We the fans were engulfed in their music unfortunately big egos stepped in and caused A lot of disfunction in the group. Howard knows that he was ego tripping.
No matter what internal problems Shalamar had their music is timeless especially for people in love I will still be playing Shalamar in my 80s if God let's me live that long 😊
so true,,, (repost)fuck that howard s ego wanted to take over the group and he tries in interviews to finagle,,, HE FUCKED UP not her, past interviews bear,,,that out,,,,
I get the sense that he's not taking full responsibility for how he behaved back then. I refuse to believe he doesn't know why Jody Watley wont fuck with him after all these years, especially since their Unsung episode kinda went into detail. Howard was an amazing young singer and certainly the strongest out of the group so, its not hard to imagine that his ego might have gotten out of control. I dont believe one argument burned that bridge, it must have been a culmination of things. He said himself in this interview that they were meeting to talk about his behavior and things escalated. That tells me he had a history of showing his ass. I know it was a long time ago and you were very young but OWN YOUR SHIT!
Yeah, this would be squashed if he picked up the phone and gave her a heartfelt apology. I was waiting for him to say he was willing, but he just blamed her.
He treated Jody like *ish Jody discussed in detail a few years back he is disgusting jealous bastard!!! Salute to Jody she endured the abuse until she had enough and blew up in her own right and on her terms.
Right, in interviews I believe she said he was just being really rude and disrespectful. I’m quite sure some other things went down that neither one of them want to talk about.
No matter what internal problems Shalamar had their music is timeless especially for people in love I will still be playing Shalamar in my 80s if God let's me live that long 😊
Eat right, exercise and take care of yourself. That help's with living longer. Hope that genetically you've got the goods. "God" has nothing to do with it.
The wildest part to me was Jeffrey Daniels siding with Howard in their revamped version of Shalamar when they started together on Soul Train. There is no Shalamar without Jody Watley
@@rgtowns True she definitely had great success but they were in there 20s-30s back in the day. Now time has passed, each person has gotten older and wiser and together as group they “possibly” can make a lot of money going on tour. Shit I can speak for myself I know I’ve said some fuck up shit to some friends in my 20s-30s that regret. Bottom line they are older now, life is short they can have a sit down squashed the beef, do a 20 day tour and make a killing. I don’t know what each person pockets are looking like but “IF” each one is struggling this will definitely help out. Just my opinion.
@@wesleymitchellrealtor9919 For years I thought the same way as you. I used to say they should let the past go and get back on stage together but there are interviews where Jody said she doesn't really have any chemistry with Howard and Jeffrey on stage anymore. *This could be because she does not like them.* She also said that once she became a solo artist she got used to calling the shots and doing everything her own way and making all the decisions. It is hard for a solo artist in charge of everything to go back to being in a singing group and having to compromise on things.
@@rgtowns I guess the only reason to work it out would be for us, the fans who grew up as children and teenagers listening to their songs and watching them perform. Other than that, you are right. There is no reason for a successful solo artist to go back and be in a singing group with group members she doesn't like.
@@wesleymitchellrealtor9919 so typical a overly emotional woman holding a grudge about something that was said in an argument that he hardly remembers can’t & refuse to lead with intellect and maturity but rather lead with emotion so sad
Howard suffers from selective memory. Jody had beef with the record company cause they were shady. And Howard had a huge ego back in the day and was trying to downplay Jody’s contribution to the group. At one point they tried to downplay her vocals and songwriting contributions. It was a hot mess ‘til she was like, “Peace out.”
There's a little more to it then just that. Howard alludes to it, but doesn't go in depth into it, and that's that besides Jody feeling disrespected, Jeffrey Daniels also was Physically Abusive to her, and he put hands on her throughout their relationship. A lot of her PTSD (for lack of a better term) so to speak about the Shalamar days has to do with that. Also Dick Griffey (SOLAR President) constantly telling her he was going to replace her. While I wouldn't doubt in the heat of the Argument, Howard said what she claims he said, I feel he's more Collateral Damage about all the other stuff she suffered through that time.
Jody's solo career took off way more than Howard's. I still rock "Some Kind of Lover", "Looking For a New Love", and "Real Love". Howard Hewett is definitely one of my favorite male singers of all time, but he never had a #1 hit. Jody received Billboard's Lifetime Achievement award, 1 grammy win, and 3 more nominations, on top of a host of other awards and special recognition. I agree, her success was the best revenge, but I can also understand not wanting to back to the people who told you it would never happen.
Ok lol But Howard hewett had 2 platinum albums his singles was topping the R&B charts and second Jody image is the real reason why she was successful in the 80s her music videos and singles pushed her career upward but let’s not act like Howard had a trash solo career
I met this man years ago, trust me, he is a “piece of work.” I can personally say I don’t like HH at all. I had the chance to meet Jody, she was very friendly, personable and a pleasant experience.
I’ll always have nothing but love for Howard. He gave me the honor of interviewing him on my podcast a few years ago. It was huge for me, because I was a big Shalamar fan. And also loved his solo work. He is such a humble guy, and it’s a moment I’ll never forget.
Jody, Jeffrey and Howard did reunite in 1996 with Babyface and LL Cool J for their cover of Shalamar's classic For The Lover In You. They filmed a video and performed on the Tops of The Pops. Babyface wanted to produce a Shalamar reunion album but it didn't due to Howard wanting most of the money while Jody wanted everybody to be paid equally. Jody tried to reunite with Howard and Jeffrey many times but it didn't happen due to scheduling conflicts and Howard wanting to be in control of everything. The BET Awards wanted Jody perform her solo hits and a reunite with Howard and Jeffrey and it almost happen but didn't due to Howard wanted to take over. He didn't want the group to dance and wanted to perform mostly their ballads and not allow Jody to perform her solo hits so Jody backed out.
Howard can't sell out a night club. His uppity azz. Before you go on me. I was present at one of Howard Show's. Short, hairy chest man. Howard did put on a great one man show and closed it out with Amen . Yes, Howard sounds better in real life when he sings. ... Real talent. Too bad he can't dance like Jody.
Howard is known to be disrespectful, and to say, the reason she's mad, is not the reason she's mad. Shows he is the problem with in the group. For her not to speak to you for all these years. Howard must have said and did something very wrong. He will never own up to it though.
@Basement Network all that blah, blah, blah pull out the dictionary verbage doesn't mean he ever answered the question in a direct to the point manner. End of story.
Maya Angelou said, when someone shows you who they are, believe them. He showed her who he was. She's probably not angry. She's just decided to leave both Jeffrey and Howard where they were and move on.
People have to remember when you say things in life whether it is out of anger or not. You can't take it back and words hit harder than a fist people need to watch their words because they can be damaging.. Too me Howard doesn't seem very humble I seen the unsung episode this is sad...
Well,he was DEAD wrong!!!!!!!!!! Jody outdid him and Jeffrey in her solo career, and is still going strong with her own group Soul Revolution Love. She had multiple hits: “Lookin’ For A New Love”, “Don’t You Want Me?”, “Still A Thrill”, “Some Kind Of Lover”, “Real Love”, “Friends”, “Everything”, and MANY more! By the way, they have seen each other since the breakup. Jody posted pictures of them back in 2009,2016,and 2019.
At the time under Shalamar Howard was so clearly the power behind the group so I can see why he initial believed she needed him more to be successful. However, Jody came out of the gate with her solo career strongly collaborating with Andre Cymone and as they say 1+1 = 5 and Jody blasted into her own persona and left Shalamar to the history books. Jody delivered something fresh and new and outshone Howard in a significant way.
I met Howard in Maryland at a club in Bowie, he took a pic with me and was cordial to everyone that wanted a pic. I loved his music growing up, but he was dead wrong for telling Jody that.
Howard Hewitt is right! Jody isn't shit! She's the bomb! She blew up! Her career took off like a space ship! The whole situation was jealously on his part!😎
I actually don’t think it was jealously for him, at least not when (and if) he said that. It was most likely the cockiness that befalls most young people when they’re talented and successful. He probably had that lead singer syndrome where he felt he was doing the group a favor and would be successful without them. I’m sure Jody blowing up humbled him.
There’s a lot of grown men who are going hard (pun intended) with defending Howard Hewitt while trying to downplay Jody Watley’s accomplishments. At this very moment, Jody Watley still has more listeners, subscribers, and streams on Spotify and UA-cam than Hewitt.🥴
@@MalikRhasaan Real Love, You are my Everything, Friends, Some Kind of Lover, Still a Thrill, Looking for a New Lover and more. .. Hasta La Vista, Baby
You got that right! I remember as a teenager and looking, watching and listening. Jody Watley kept me to vibe with the group. She's very confident and good at what she does, SING AND DANCE 💃 TING HAD ME TO LOVE THE GROUP. IN OTHER WORDS...WITHOUT JODY WATLEY HOWARD WOULDN'T BE SHIT! HA!
Jody Watley success was the best revenge. Even after her fame died down in the states she was celebrated in Europe for many years where American R&B is never forgotten.
Howard is saying that Jody should've had a "Bump you,I'll be successful on my own" type of attitude. I think she opted to let you eat your own words. What he said was disrespectful to her as a artist & devalues her contributions to the success of the group. He let her know how he really feels about her but it's ironic when there's talk of a Shalimar reunion they're ringing her phone.Shalimar was a stepping stone for each of you but Jody's solo projects blazed a trail that so many female artists tried to emulate. Jody Watley IS A FORCE unlike no other! She is one of the baddest female artists of a all time! There's nobody in her lane. You can't fuck with Jody Watley period! You can throw somebody else up on that stage but there's no Shalimar without Jody.
And there's no Jody without Shalamar. Jody, is that you? She's great, but I never hear her name mentioned with such admiration as you put forth. He's sold more than 3 times what she's sold. 15 million to 4 million.
@@ibervillezee9142 Actually that’s not true. Jody has sold more worldwide than any other member of Shalamar. And she still has international hits just last month. Also Jody has an independent record label she has owned since 1993, a million copies sold of her fitness video, 13 #1 singles worldwide and she owns trademark to Shalamar. Jody Watley is the top in sales out of all in Shalamar and she’s a popular live singer who has toured consistently since 1989 to 2021.
I met Jody Watley several years in an elevator at BET, she was so beautiful and humble. We took a pic and she hugged like old friends. I’m a huge Shalimar fan& would LOVE to see them reunited!🙏🏾💐💛🎙
After hearing this interview, Jody would only get back with Shalamar if her fans begged her to do it. I think that would make her realize that people love her as a solo artist and as a part of Shalamar.
As a child I loved this group , Jody Watley Wherever you are I want to apologize on Howards behalf, and hopefully you can reunite at least for the fans sake. Life is short and a lot of our legends are leaving 🙏🏿
Shalamar is one of the greatest group's from that era, so much timeless music, forever wil bel one of my favorites of all time. Thanks Vlad for these old school artist interviews.
Abusers always have selective memories. They always blame their victims. Just listening to him is sickening. He is lying. Let me tell you ..... when people stop talking to you... You need to really look at yourself. Good for you Jody! Self love. I have had hateful abusive men say the same $hit to me. Ladies, ask questions and pay attention when guys tell you that other women dont speak to them. RUN!!!! Leave them alone. If you don't, your turn is next!~They don't change.... they just find a new way to manipulate and abuse you. Or they are just looking for the next source of supply. I never comment on UA-cam.... but this shit pissed me off.
I actually turned this video off. His energy drains me. I spent too much of my life putting up with jerks. I just don't do it anymore. I couldn't last 5 minutes in a room with this guy. He irks my whole soul. It's not even a celebrity thing...it's a regular person to regular person thing.
@@lisabrightly Whoa, if you fell this way, even only after just a few minutes, maybe that's what Jody went through. I loved Jody Watley's solo music, voice and style. She was the bomb!!!💣🎙🎤🎶🔥
Wow...the enlightening info you provided. I see why Jody went her own way....to success and peace of mind. Good move Ms. Whatley! You blew up!!! Such sweet revenge without the bs bogging you down. Blessings come to good people like her.
Howard Hewett is leaving out the part where he kept calling Jody a bitch and that if she was upset then she must be on her period. I don't know if Howard Hewett was drinking or getting high back then and doesn't remember? Jody says the car that was supposed to be for her in London, Howard had used it for someone else and told Jody Watley he didn't care how she got there to take a cab to the video set if she had to. Jody says Howard called her a bitch for the last time on the Dead Giveaway video set and she left the group and hasn't looked back since. Jody has also said in interviews she's the kind of person who always looks forward and doesn't revisit the past.
@@Darkanent Yes you're right.. I think Jody Watley doesn't need to sit with Howard Hewett because it might give him the chance to call her a bitch all over again. If she didn't like him then I doubt he's changed he's the same person and now she doesn't have to deal with it,
Stuff happened...Egos and attitudes aside..Record Labels always try to push a Hot lead singer to leave the group and go solo..This does not always work out...Sometimes the other former members regroup into a new group and have great longevity and success and the once hot lead singer becomes that one hit wonder.. going their separate ways was perhaps for the best for all three..Sometimes it's better that way..
Never gave the 1st REMIX 'Friends' by Jody Watley and Rakim it's proper due. The Genius of Jody Watley to (name) the successful Single that Howard doubted after the same moniker as their group album. Chess move, because Howard witnessed that success same as the rest of us.
It's really messed up when music executives split up a great singing group, in order for just one member to go solo, leaving the rest of the group member's behind, when they ALL brought something to the table, musically.
This was truly a sad interview on many fronts, because for one, if Howard Hewitt knew what drove Jody Watley the other way, he should have been man enough to apologize for his actions, be accountable. And the reason I say this, is because we've all had experiences in our youth, that lasted us for the rest of our lives. It may not have detoured our path in life, but it's stuck in our memory bank forever and we never truly get over it. Howard could have offered closure by openly apologizing to her for the things he said. Because let's face it, words hurt, and they cut us deep to the core of our souls. And as much as I loved their music, I lost so much respect for Howard after this interview, I mean, I have zero respect for him after this interview. Listen, as a man, we all know women can be very fragile, and as a man, we have to be very careful how we handle our women, Howard arrogantly didn't care. I'm just truly disappointed in him, truly I am.
She must have either disrespected her or she broken his heart because she's not talking about it, he is sounding like a petty hurt little boy . . . after all these years KEEP IT MOVING . . . life is too short.
Her solo career was her best revenge tho! But he really could have owned up and apologized... even if he doesn't remember everything he said. He knew he wasn't too far fetched for saying it.
Not just them but Micki, D’Lisa, and Sidney were amazing too. Dick Griffey should have ended Shalamar after Howard left and Micki, D’Lisa, and Sidney perform under a different group name because they were great. Micki Free was so talented and sexy looking, Prince was very jealous of him and tried to end his career
No matter what internal problems Shalamar had their music is timeless especially for people in love I will still be playing Shalamar in my 80s if God let's me live that long 😊
My dad was married to this guy's sister.. he never reached out, never answered calls,even when his sister was sick..... not sure I can respect a man like that
I remember watching the group Shalamar back in the day and Howard sang lead on most of the songs and you could tell he was full of himself . I'm sure he's said some things like this group would be nothing without me and other things that happened to get back to Jody and she was just done with him . You know Howard said what he said and now acts like he don't remember . He hurt Jody to her soul but she was the one who became the superstar .
He sang lead on 99.9% of the songs because he was the voice of the group. It's not his fault. Dick Griffey knew Howard had the voice and it was his decision to make Howard the lead singer. She was bitter because she watched her role in the group shrink when Howard join Shalmar.
@@loveydovey1105 More successful! Stop dreaming clown. Howard records are still being played and being sampled by many rappers. She had that one Lil wack asssss song that nobody remembers. Her fame came from being in the group, not because of her solo records. I supported her because of Shalamar, even bought her records and I still regret wasting my damnnn money on her wack asssss album. Howard on the the other hand has hits for days. Go research your research iddiottttt
It's amazing how we have access to the internet but people will not use it to research. Jody Watley has addressed this, there's more to the story than what Howard Hewett is telling...
People forget when it came to doing the album with Babyface, Howard did the same thing he did when he was at Solar: try to broker a deal to get more money than the other two. How the hell did he think that would happen when Jody was the bigger star. Leopards don't change stripes
He is NOT taking responsibility for his actions trying to blame her relationship with Jeffrey. No howard you had a ego and Jody was not having it honey. Grow up
My favorite song by Shalamar is "Take That To The Bank", that was before Howard Hewett joined Shalamar. I love that song. When she went solo her music career took way off with music awards and a grammy award. Shalamar never had the music success she had when she went solo.
I appreciate Howard's telling of 'A' story but when it comes to Jody, who I have seen in different interviews while going down the rabbit hole today, she seems very well adjusted. Happy. Content. She does not seem like a small-minded petty woman. That tells me there is more to it. The fact that she has never even said "Now what N" says a lot. The lure of making a few extra bucks means nothing to her. What she feels is deeper than that. When someone does not want to revisit a part of their life it's because it was toxic and or traumatizing. Howard and Vlad can blow it off as a 'That dumb' but IMO it is not. Not everything can be forgiven. Quite honestly his arrogance should be the end of the conversation. Shalamar was who they were. We can listen to their songs anytime. Do your thing Jody!!
In spite of what I "heard" Howard say, he never asked for her "FORGIVENESS" for saying those hurtful things to Jody. She has feelings too, and he should have been the "bigger person" and did that. I never heard him say, or anyone else say, that she has said anything derogatory about him publicly or privately. I don't care if the argument happened 100 years ago, when you say mean and hurtful things to someone and when you really "finally" realize that what you said hurt them, then "quickly" ask for their forgiveness. It may not have been a "big" thing to him, but as a young person then and as a much more mature person now, it was obviously a VERY BIG thing to her. Personally, I think that she has forgiven him and moved on, but the hurt is still there and you can't just expect Jody to want to be around Howard knowing that he was not even willing to speak with her one-on-one about this situation after all of these years. Yeah, yeah, "Forgive and Forget" is an easy thing to say, but it doesn't mean that she is willing to spend time around someone (Howard, in this case) that may still even now say something else hurtful to her. Especially, if they never came back and asked for forgiveness for what they had previously said about her. Howard (in my humble opinion) should offer the "Olive Branch," not Jody, that is of course, if he "REALLY" wants to settle things with her.
Man I absolutely loved Shalimar Jeffrey Jody and Howard. As a fan I would love to see the three of them perform again, but I understand this may never happen.
Jody talked about it on her website years ago. She had receipts to back up everything. Jody and Howard did have a huge fallout but Jody no longer cares. She’s left it behind
FACTS. Howard admitted on their Unsung documentary that he did tried to hit on Jody and she told him no. He was mad that Jody didn't sleep with him and Dick Griffey had favored Howard over Jody and Jeffrey.
I love Shalamar and their music but never knew of Howard Hewett’s behavior but I believe Jody Watley’s solo career was more successful than his. It earned her hits, awards, gold and platinum albums, etc. Howard has had top ten hits but not any number one soul hits. Jody has had number one and top ten hits!!!
Here's my take on that. I'm speaking from my own experiences with long-festering feuds I've had which lasted decades. When you ask those involved in said feud what caused it, you will get one that can itemize everything the other did to taint that relationship. The other guy will say, "O, I have NO idea what happened." It's a total mystery to them. Be very careful of that second one feigning ignorance. They know EXACTLY what went down but telling the truth would put them in a bad light, so they take the cowardly route out - pretending they're totally oblivious to the cause. Jody always said Howard was a nasty piece of work. He had an attitude like he was the voice of Shalamar and the other two were easily replaceable. He was the star; they - the minions. When Jermaine Stewart was with Jody, Howard would habitually hurl derogatory names at him like 'f*ggot.' That's who he was. He's fully aware of the part he played in the breakdown of their relationship.
@@brothercinnamon2479 Yeah, he would do it maliciously just to torment him. How is that kind of person not a certifiable A-HOLE? Jody took it personally, to heart - as any real friend would. In the aftermath, it resonates on an even deeper level being that Jermaine would die prematurely from the AIDs virus.
I love Shalamar they are one of my favorite groups. I hate that the original three couldn’t get along anymore. I was 4 in 1986 when Jody Watley first solo single came out and I loved watching her music videos. She instantly became one of my favorite singers.
Howard, isn’t being fully honest. Jody, spoke about this years ago, dude slandered her. Jody, stated group relationship was toxic and there wasn’t equity. There is no Shalimar without, Jody who wants to see some random singing/dancing to her parts. LOL Jody, has been touring (prior to C*vid) quite fine, by her lonely. The best revenge is moving on with life and showing she doesn’t need you guys.. It’s unfortunate it ended this way, however I’m all for people protecting their mental peace/space. My favorite Shalimar track is “Take Dat To The Bank”.. cool song..
@@Darkanent Exactly! Karma is something else. She isn't dividing up her money three ways to Sunday. And that advance he took while the other two were stuck in the cold? Well, Griffeys daughter makes more than both of them so you do reap what you sow eventually
From what I heard, Howard talked too much. I heard that Howard would say mean things about Jodie when she was having her baby. He even said something about Jodie on air, and Jodie called into the radio to put a stop to it. Sometimes when a member of the group talks too much, they do not know all of what they say that maybe hurtful.
I'm sure everyone had their faults but we need to remember that Dick Griffey also played a MAJOR role in the division within Shalamar; he was openly disrespectful to Jody and I'm sure he favored and filled Howard's head with dreams. They say DG was uh...a little crooked...
Jody deserves her flowers. She was a crucial part of Shalamar and went on to be a huge solo act.
Facts 💯
Yup I saw Jody n Rakim do friends on my senior trip in 90 Classic
She won a Grammy but I’m still only familiar with the Shalamar songs
I wouldn't say huge........ Or memorable without Shalamar.
@@PlayaflyJoe27 Man she was huge without them
Growing up, I lived next door to Jody and her family. She is the real deal. She is authentically herself, and one of the nicest people you will ever meet. Much love to Jody and her family.
Jodi is a patient of mine at my dental office I work at. She is one of the nicest patient we have. I am a huge fan of hers and she always talks to me and just so sweet, and kind..
💯👍🏽
So you live in Kansas city because she started off living in Kansas city mo went to south east middle school before taking off to Cali.
I always liked her vibe.
@@kellyhill6414 Absolutely. Go Chiefs!😂
Even at 46 years of age, I still get chills when I hear “A Night to Remember”. Jody’s lead and BGV’s on that song is pure gold! Whatever issues they have need to be worked out!
That song is bomb. I love the remixes too.
Agreed. Her voice is so pleasing and enigmatic.
Get Ready, Baby tonite!!!! Yash
facts i swear i was born 8 23 75 and i feel the same way til this day when i hear it
Shame you were too young for that song when it was released in 1982 kid
This interview did nothing more than make me love Jody more.
Right
Same here. And dislike him more
Not me. They need to work it out and get passed it all.
What an odd response given the tone and tenor of this interview.
Sounds like you're trying to validate a preset bias.
In my opinion, MORE POWER TO YOU for turning a NEGATIVE situation into a POSITIVE situation!
Jody Watley is a Grammy award winner!❤️❤️❤️
So she's supposed to be well-respected because white people gave her an award, consider the source !!!!!!
Howard Hewitt, Jody Watley, & Jeffrey Daniels will always be Shalamar in my heart for real no doubt.
Facts 💯
But, you do know that Jeffrey is not the original member I think
@@kanyegang2810 you mean Howard Hewitt Jeffrey daniels and jody watley was just original soul train dancers in the early 70"s before they created shalamar.
This version of Shalamar is the best one. They had chemistry
@@MsStaceyB True
Jody Watley became a huge star on her own anyway. And Before the pandemic hit, I had the pleasure of seeing Jody Watley in concert in here in New York. It was awesome!!!
Howard Hewitt sounds like an hater/jealous!!!!
I have never got a chance to see Jody you were so lucky
Right! And who has the Grammyyyy?? Lol
ii saw howard in atlanta a few years ago his voice wasn't there that night.
Their run lasted about the same time. Egos really destroy else🤬
*Jody Watley tells another version. Allegedly😏 (per Jody's video testimony):*
During the height of Shalamar's success, Howard was caught-up in his light-skinned.....pretty boy....."I'm gonna be bigger than the group, when I go solo" phase. Dick Griffey (the head of SOLAR) conspired and stirred the situation, giving more money to Howard. Jody's friend (and Shalamar back-up singer) JERMAINE STEWART (rest in power) used to call Jody and tell her they're performing without her. Dick Griffey and Howard were already trying to start-up Howard's solo career. Also, they put Jody on a guilt trip for having her baby from Leon Sylvers (obviously, abortion was implied).
To add more insult to injury: Jody's former long-time lover (Jeffrey Daniels) married Stephanie Mills, for a come-up (remember, Stephanie was HUGE, during this era). Jeffrey was being petty and constantly flaunting his newfound "I'm married to Stephanie status" in Jody's face.
The coup de gras was the video shoot, for "Dead Giveaway (1983)". Howard instructed Jody's limo driver to leave.....for he and HIS entourage. Jermaine Stewart had to break-up an impending PHYSICAL fight between Howard and Jody ( chiiiile, can y'all imagine this visual!!? ).
Per Jody: she also denies the diva perception of the 1997 "For The Lover In You" video shoot. There was some misunderstanding with scheduling, but the producers spun it like she's being a diva.
The IRONY: Howard always wanted big, cross-over pop stardom. "Dancing in the Sheets" was close.....but no cigar. MEANWHILE, Jody Watley (whom everyone at SOLAR and her former group members predicted she'd fail ) WON HER OWN GRAMMY....SEVERAL, MULTI-PLATINUM, BILLBOARD POP HITS.....and she's legendary WORLDWIDE. Her close friend, Jermaine Stewart was a BACKGROUND SINGER, for Shalamar. Yet, even HE blew-up, with his HUGE, world-wide pop classic, "We Don't Have to Take Our Clothes Off (1987)". We don't know where life will take us....or who will become what. So, let's keep our egos in check, folks.✌🏾✌🏾
I listen to that video and Jody said that Howard threatened to lay hands on Her, and Jeffrey her so-called boyfriend, didn't defend her, Jermaine Stewart was the one who was going to check Howard for that, But, Jody decided to leave the group then and there, the record label tried to intervene after the fact, But Ms. Watley had had enough. Plus, Andre Cymone had wanted to work with Jody before, but, her contract with SOLAR Record's would make that a Breach of Contract with them. The Rest as they say is HISTORY BABY!!! When She received that R&B New Artist of the Year award from Little Richard, them tears were of Joy and Redemption, plus Validated what was referenced here by Howard, that He told her that She wasn't S*"t and wouldn't make it on Her own!!! And, He tried to say that He and Jody was once involved? Nigga please!!! Howard definitely has selective memory syndrome and full of himself!!!
*Exactly.* You filled-in some of the other parts I forgot.
Also, I was watching the 1988 Grammy Awards (….the same night those jealous devils robbed Michael Jackson ).
I got people in my family, like Howard Hewett. They’ll say/do some nasty, disrespectful sh*t….then act surprised when I stop all communication with them (and I’ll distance myself, for YEARS).
I can’t STAND the reverse-psychology & gaslighting those type of personalities enact. They try to flip it on YOU, like YOU should feel bad for “being petty” or “holding a grudge”. Liiiiike, how ‘bout you:
1) Open YOUR mouth and TRULY apologize.
2) Actually change your behavior!!🤬😒
Ok…. You better tell it 😂
Deep. Now, he really makes me sick. Wow. Marrying a felon.
THANK YOU! 😊 🙏 😊
Sometimes in life, when you are done. You are done. Respect...
Jody, Jeff, and Howard will always be the covenant ingredients that made Shalamar, one of the greatest R&B groups of all times. Tremendous force beyond genres!
Well said. We the fans were engulfed in their music unfortunately big egos stepped in and caused A lot of disfunction in the group. Howard knows that he was ego tripping.
I agree! 👍
Good for Ms. Whatley. She chose peace of mind it sounds like.
I heard about bad contracts and not getting paid.
No matter what internal problems Shalamar had their music is timeless especially for people in love I will still be playing Shalamar in my 80s if God let's me live that long 😊
Grudges are not found in the Bible, so Shut up
@@chadmaitre7534 what does that even mean? What does The Bible and those BS stories have to do with this?
@@godofwine77 cause you sound like a HATER!!!
part of maturing emotionally is admitting when you were wrong; apologizing and changing your behavior.
Which he clearly WON'T do
so true,,, (repost)fuck that howard s ego wanted to take over the group and he tries in interviews to finagle,,, HE FUCKED UP not her, past interviews bear,,,that out,,,,
@@leelohaskin7941 NOPE.
Yes, say it again
Jody had a dope ass solo run.
Sure did, she's a legend.
She's bad ,nothing else needs to be said
Love her exercise video as well, it helped me so much.
Jody Watley was a big deal
So did howard.
Jody Watley is a legend
I like her a lot.. but what makes her a legend? That word is thrown around too easily
I get the sense that he's not taking full responsibility for how he behaved back then. I refuse to believe he doesn't know why Jody Watley wont fuck with him after all these years, especially since their Unsung episode kinda went into detail. Howard was an amazing young singer and certainly the strongest out of the group so, its not hard to imagine that his ego might have gotten out of control. I dont believe one argument burned that bridge, it must have been a culmination of things. He said himself in this interview that they were meeting to talk about his behavior and things escalated. That tells me he had a history of showing his ass. I know it was a long time ago and you were very young but OWN YOUR SHIT!
Facts
Exactly 💯
Yeah, this would be squashed if he picked up the phone and gave her a heartfelt apology. I was waiting for him to say he was willing, but he just blamed her.
He treated Jody like *ish Jody discussed in detail a few years back he is disgusting jealous bastard!!! Salute to Jody she endured the abuse until she had enough and blew up in her own right and on her terms.
Right, in interviews I believe she said he was just being really rude and disrespectful. I’m quite sure some other things went down that neither one of them want to talk about.
No matter what internal problems Shalamar had their music is timeless especially for people in love I will still be playing Shalamar in my 80s if God let's me live that long 😊
Truth!!👍👍
Eat right, exercise and take care of yourself. That help's with living longer. Hope that genetically you've got the goods. "God" has nothing to do with it.
God is good!
I agree! 👍 Love this! 💖
Say it again!!
The wildest part to me was Jeffrey Daniels siding with Howard in their revamped version of Shalamar when they started together on Soul Train. There is no Shalamar without Jody Watley
That should tell you how unreasonable Jodie was being.
It's not about siding. It's about work. It's about money. And it's for the love of the music they created together.
Jeffrey still had to make money. He couldn’t go solo.
We’re losing way too many legends. We need them to sit down, work the issues out and move on.
@@rgtowns True she definitely had great success but they were in there 20s-30s back in the day. Now time has passed, each person has gotten older and wiser and together as group they “possibly” can make a lot of money going on tour. Shit I can speak for myself I know I’ve said some fuck up shit to some friends in my 20s-30s that regret. Bottom line they are older now, life is short they can have a sit down squashed the beef, do a 20 day tour and make a killing. I don’t know what each person pockets are looking like but “IF” each one is struggling this will definitely help out. Just my opinion.
Yes I Agree
@@wesleymitchellrealtor9919 For years I thought the same way as you. I used to say they should let the past go and get back on stage together but there are interviews where Jody said she doesn't really have any chemistry with Howard and Jeffrey on stage anymore. *This could be because she does not like them.* She also said that once she became a solo artist she got used to calling the shots and doing everything her own way and making all the decisions. It is hard for a solo artist in charge of everything to go back to being in a singing group and having to compromise on things.
@@rgtowns I guess the only reason to work it out would be for us, the fans who grew up as children and teenagers listening to their songs and watching them perform. Other than that, you are right. There is no reason for a successful solo artist to go back and be in a singing group with group members she doesn't like.
@@wesleymitchellrealtor9919 so typical a overly emotional woman holding a grudge about something that was said in an argument that he hardly remembers can’t & refuse to lead with intellect and maturity but rather lead with emotion so sad
Never cared for Howard Hewitt's solo music, but I was and ALWAYS will be a Jody Watley fan. The best revenge is living well.
Apparently the best revenge is outselling and outwinning your former singing partner.
Meca, you sound like a HATER!!!
Have u ever heard "show me" omg he kilt that funky gooovy slow song
Jody is GORGEOUS! She is a great performer. I really love her music.
Howard suffers from selective memory. Jody had beef with the record company cause they were shady. And Howard had a huge ego back in the day and was trying to downplay Jody’s contribution to the group. At one point they tried to downplay her vocals and songwriting contributions. It was a hot mess ‘til she was like, “Peace out.”
There's a little more to it then just that. Howard alludes to it, but doesn't go in depth into it, and that's that besides Jody feeling disrespected, Jeffrey Daniels also was Physically Abusive to her, and he put hands on her throughout their relationship. A lot of her PTSD (for lack of a better term) so to speak about the Shalamar days has to do with that. Also Dick Griffey (SOLAR President) constantly telling her he was going to replace her. While I wouldn't doubt in the heat of the Argument, Howard said what she claims he said, I feel he's more Collateral Damage about all the other stuff she suffered through that time.
How do y'all know all this stuff???? Lol I'm 45 btw
That’s exactly what I came to say!
@@267allday WHO RAISED YOU IM 45. THIS STUFF IS OLD NEWS.
YOU KIDS
@@jamalvines2133 u kids???
Jody's solo career took off way more than Howard's. I still rock "Some Kind of Lover", "Looking For a New Love", and "Real Love". Howard Hewett is definitely one of my favorite male singers of all time, but he never had a #1 hit. Jody received Billboard's Lifetime Achievement award, 1 grammy win, and 3 more nominations, on top of a host of other awards and special recognition. I agree, her success was the best revenge, but I can also understand not wanting to back to the people who told you it would never happen.
True, but his catalog was better
true her first 1987 album "jody watley" was straight up banger CLASSIC my favorite song on the album was " Do it to the beat".
He's sold over 15 million albums. She's sold about 4 million. He has a much better catalog and more fans willing to spend money.
not really...
Ok lol
But Howard hewett had 2 platinum albums his singles was topping the R&B charts and second Jody image is the real reason why she was successful in the 80s her music videos and singles pushed her career upward but let’s not act like Howard had a trash solo career
Man, Jody wanted an apology. That's all he had to do if he didn't.
Right, just get some flowers and sing I'm sorry to her, he'll write a song about her and dedicated to her or something
@@thaxdrugdealer1988 Right. Even here he wasn't willing to say he was wrong. He basically tried put a narrative he sought best. Smh.
It’s a little deeper than that. He did a lot to damage her reputation. Find my comment on this video to read the full story
They should've had a sit down if that's what she really wanted.
Just send a cheesecake. Dames can’t say no to cheesecake. Ask Diddy.
My man gaslighting the hell out of Jody
She is a nut😂
@@JacquelineRobinson-ub5pyyou sound nasty
I met this man years ago, trust me, he is a “piece of work.” I can personally say I don’t like HH at all. I had the chance to meet Jody, she was very friendly, personable and a pleasant experience.
Hmmm...
Do tell.
I hear this too often - please tell the truth and shame the devil!
Smart to base your opinion on a few minutes with someone. You don't know either of them.
@@rellenoz This is where you don't know what you're talking about, let's just leave it there.
I’ll always have nothing but love for Howard. He gave me the honor of interviewing him on my podcast a few years ago. It was huge for me, because I was a big Shalamar fan. And also loved his solo work. He is such a humble guy, and it’s a moment I’ll never forget.
Upload it on UA-cam !!!
Yea. Upload to the tube. Monetize it
;-)
I concur. His voice is legendary. His songs are stellar. Unforgettable. xoxo
I agree. I love Howard! There is no song he sang that I didn't like...
Gotta give Gerald P. Brown his flowers as the ORIGINAL lead singer of Shalamar. Still alive and touring with Jody Watley.
Yes…I love his voice.
👍🔥✨
Shalimar Reunion with Jody Watley is needed. Second time around. Do it for the culture and R&B. Life is too short. Bring back the classic hits!
Jody, Jeffrey and Howard did reunite in 1996 with Babyface and LL Cool J for their cover of Shalamar's classic For The Lover In You. They filmed a video and performed on the Tops of The Pops. Babyface wanted to produce a Shalamar reunion album but it didn't due to Howard wanting most of the money while Jody wanted everybody to be paid equally. Jody tried to reunite with Howard and Jeffrey many times but it didn't happen due to scheduling conflicts and Howard wanting to be in control of everything. The BET Awards wanted Jody perform her solo hits and a reunite with Howard and Jeffrey and it almost happen but didn't due to Howard wanted to take over. He didn't want the group to dance and wanted to perform mostly their ballads and not allow Jody to perform her solo hits so Jody backed out.
Nah, sometimes you gotta let sleeping dogs lie, as they say!! NO way!
How long you been managing Jody?
@@1tarikross161 it’s called common sense! Look it up fool!
When they reunited on some show performing that song, Jody said it wasn't the same and that the chemistry wasn't there.
Jody Watley is an amazing artist! She will forever be an icon. Many people tried to cop her style too.
Howard Hewett remade the hell out of “A love of your own” he demolished it! 🔥🔥🔥 he is definitely a legend in the music Industry
Howard can't sell out a night club. His uppity azz. Before you go on me. I was present at one of Howard Show's. Short, hairy chest man.
Howard did put on a great one man show and closed it out with Amen . Yes, Howard sounds better in real life when he sings. ... Real talent. Too bad he can't dance like Jody.
No doubt
Average White Bands a love of your own?
@@Class_357 yeah he remade it
I love his rendition. It's amazing
Howard is known to be disrespectful, and to say, the reason she's mad, is not the reason she's mad. Shows he is the problem with in the group. For her not to speak to you for all these years. Howard must have said and did something very wrong. He will never own up to it though.
He beat on her. The Unsung documentary speaks about it.
@@Darkanent I saw that, but I couldn't remember exactly what the story was.
@@Darkanent I thought Jeffrey was the one who did it
@@leelohaskin7941
Yup, it was Jeffrey, not Howard.
@Darryl Dickerson
You nailed it!👌
He knows exactly why Jody doesn't talk to him because he tried all he could to not answer the question straight out.
Fact
Yep.
@Basement Network To expound is to explain further but one does get to the point which he never did. He danced.
@Basement Network I sure was. I was looking for him to answer the question in a point blank not dancing around talking in circles manner. Lol
@Basement Network all that blah, blah, blah pull out the dictionary verbage doesn't mean he ever answered the question in a direct to the point manner. End of story.
I had to laugh because Jody blew up larger than Shalamar
For a bit but Shalamar's songs have endured much longer than hers.
@@MCharlerySmith, Jody's songs are classic and crossover hits still today. Give her her flowers.
@@MCharlerySmith exactly and Howard had a great solo career as well
It was more than just a bit.. I do like Howard and Shalamar, but Jody’s debut album alone blew Shalamar away and won a Grammy on top of that
If you think Jody solo career was as big or bigger than Shalamar or Howard's solo career, you couldn't have been alive to see it in real time.
Maya Angelou said, when someone shows you who they are, believe them. He showed her who he was. She's probably not angry. She's just decided to leave both Jeffrey and Howard where they were and move on.
People have to remember when you say things in life whether it is out of anger or not. You can't take it back and words hit harder than a fist people need to watch their words because they can be damaging.. Too me Howard doesn't seem very humble I seen the unsung episode this is sad...
Well,he was DEAD wrong!!!!!!!!!!
Jody outdid him and Jeffrey
in her solo career,
and is still going strong
with her own group
Soul Revolution Love.
She had multiple hits:
“Lookin’ For A New Love”,
“Don’t You Want Me?”,
“Still A Thrill”,
“Some Kind Of Lover”,
“Real Love”,
“Friends”,
“Everything”,
and MANY more!
By the way,
they have seen each other since
the breakup.
Jody posted pictures of them
back in 2009,2016,and 2019.
Thank you sir, envie is a bad thing to have. Especially if it's close by.
At the time under Shalamar Howard was so clearly the power behind the group so I can see why he initial believed she needed him more to be successful. However, Jody came out of the gate with her solo career strongly collaborating with Andre Cymone and as they say 1+1 = 5 and Jody blasted into her own persona and left Shalamar to the history books. Jody delivered something fresh and new and outshone Howard in a significant way.
@@chrispnw2547 Jody was one of the it girls in the 80's. It was Jody, Janet Jackson, Madonna, Whitney Houston and even Paula Abdul
i don't think so? it was HOWARD TO ME COULS SING I THINK JODY WAS A HATER THAT WHAT I FELT?
@@barbravire8994
Howard could sing…..back then.
He can’t sing now,
and his solo career was nothing
compared to Jody’s.
I met Howard in Maryland at a club in Bowie, he took a pic with me and was cordial to everyone that wanted a pic. I loved his music growing up, but he was dead wrong for telling Jody that.
True and she paid him back by being the best she could be.
Which was fantastic!!!
My mom loves that man and has met him a few times. Yeah he was dead wrong.
But didn't Howard admit that? Plus that was 35 years ago.
It’s too bad their voices together are like magic ❤
Howard Hewitt is right! Jody isn't shit! She's the bomb! She blew up! Her career took off like a space ship! The whole situation was jealously on his part!😎
Ok but he apologized for saying that in the midst of that argument. Plus, that was THIRTY FIVE YEARS AGO!!!!!
I actually don’t think it was jealously for him, at least not when (and if) he said that. It was most likely the cockiness that befalls most young people when they’re talented and successful. He probably had that lead singer syndrome where he felt he was doing the group a favor and would be successful without them. I’m sure Jody blowing up humbled him.
Huh?
There’s a lot of grown men who are going hard (pun intended) with defending Howard Hewitt while trying to downplay Jody Watley’s accomplishments. At this very moment, Jody Watley still has more listeners, subscribers, and streams on Spotify and UA-cam than Hewitt.🥴
“It’s still a thrill” 🎵 is my favorite song of hers, the music videos in Paris, her style in clothes, was ahead of the game.
Yo! That is my SHIT. It STILL cranks. The video is SO underrated... "....Thrill! Still. a. thrill..."
👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿 mine too!!
Yall should watch Shalamars unsung episode, to hear the real story… Howard thought he was bigger than the group
I thought Jody said on Unsung she was done with them after they told her to get rid of her baby.
yeah I saw it, Howard DID think he was the ish!!! Guess he wasn't huh??
I guess Howard Hewett had gotten the “David Ruffin Syndrome”.😆
@@robertjaime6808 LOL and look what happened to his career!!! 👎🏾👎🏾
Also, Jody's UA-cam videos clarifying things. Very, very enlightening.
So basically to sum it up…. he said that to her and never apologized 🤷🏽♀️ just say sorry sir.
Exactly….he stay beating around the bush…asking ‘face, he, she, the old lady!!!…,just speak to Jody directly you cowardly sir!🤦🏾♀️🙄
@@godlove5912 Hi. At first glance, thought you had wrote CowardCewett/Cute-It... as he is still handsome; however per Jody, he did her wrong!
& then she went & won a Grammy for *Best New Artist* 🤷🏾♂️😂🏆
and then nothing...
@@MalikRhasaan She proved him wrong tho. She was the 💩 *WITHOUT* the group.
@@MalikRhasaan and then more hits.
@@MalikRhasaan Real Love, You are my Everything, Friends, Some Kind of Lover, Still a Thrill, Looking for a New Lover and more. .. Hasta La Vista, Baby
@@lisajones3373 exactly, multiple hits 👏🏽
Shalamar would never be shit without Jody Watley.
What a joke? Jody had some type hang up??????????????
I agree 👍 💯
To be fair, they had a gold album featuring two platinum singles and won a Grammy after she left.
You got that right! I remember as a teenager and looking, watching and listening. Jody Watley kept me to vibe with the group. She's very confident and good at what she does, SING AND DANCE 💃 TING HAD ME TO LOVE THE GROUP. IN OTHER WORDS...WITHOUT JODY WATLEY HOWARD WOULDN'T BE SHIT! HA!
Jody Watley success was the best revenge. Even after her fame died down in the states she was celebrated in Europe for many years where American R&B is never forgotten.
You can’t tell someone how they should be mad when you are the one that man them mad in the first place.
Howard is saying that Jody should've had a "Bump you,I'll be successful on my own" type of attitude. I think she opted to let you eat your own words. What he said was disrespectful to her as a artist & devalues her contributions to the success of the group. He let her know how he really feels about her but it's ironic when there's talk of a Shalimar reunion they're ringing her phone.Shalimar was a stepping stone for each of you but Jody's solo projects blazed a trail that so many female artists tried to emulate. Jody Watley IS A FORCE unlike no other! She is one of the baddest female artists of a all time! There's nobody in her lane. You can't fuck with Jody Watley period! You can throw somebody else up on that stage but there's no Shalimar without Jody.
And there's no Jody without Shalamar. Jody, is that you? She's great, but I never hear her name mentioned with such admiration as you put forth. He's sold more than 3 times what she's sold. 15 million to 4 million.
@@ibervillezee9142 facts. Christine smoking that dust.
You gotta be her cousin or something to say this lol
@@ibervillezee9142 Actually that’s not true. Jody has sold more worldwide than any other member of Shalamar. And she still has international hits just last month.
Also Jody has an independent record label she has owned since 1993, a million copies sold of her fitness video, 13 #1 singles worldwide and she owns trademark to Shalamar.
Jody Watley is the top in sales out of all in Shalamar and she’s a popular live singer who has toured consistently since 1989 to 2021.
@@Jbcomedystl Gotta be 🤣🤣🤣
I met Jody Watley several years in an elevator at BET, she was so beautiful and humble. We took a pic and she hugged like old friends. I’m a huge Shalimar fan& would LOVE to see them reunited!🙏🏾💐💛🎙
After hearing this interview, Jody would only get back with Shalamar if her fans begged her to do it. I think that would make her realize that people love her as a solo artist and as a part of Shalamar.
Babyface got the three Howard, Jody and Jeffrey together to do a show in the UK. The top of the pops. Great interview 👏
As a child I loved this group , Jody Watley Wherever you are I want to apologize on Howards behalf, and hopefully you can reunite at least for the fans sake. Life is short and a lot of our legends are leaving 🙏🏿
What!?! 😅😅 You can't apologize for a grown a** man!!
Agreed he's coming across as petty, perhaps she broke his heart. IDK
She's actually on Facebook and personally replies to comments! 🥰
@@bkkersey93 some times in life one needs to learn the skillful art of Negotiations
Shalamar is one of the greatest group's from that era, so much timeless music, forever wil bel one of my favorites of all time. Thanks Vlad for these old school artist interviews.
“Show me” is one of the greatest slow jams EVER
Vocally ripped that song!!!!
Abusers always have selective memories. They always blame their victims. Just listening to him is sickening. He is lying. Let me tell you ..... when people stop talking to you... You need to really look at yourself. Good for you Jody! Self love. I have had hateful abusive men say the same $hit to me. Ladies, ask questions and pay attention when guys tell you that other women dont speak to them. RUN!!!! Leave them alone. If you don't, your turn is next!~They don't change.... they just find a new way to manipulate and abuse you. Or they are just looking for the next source of supply. I never comment on UA-cam.... but this shit pissed me off.
I actually turned this video off. His energy drains me. I spent too much of my life putting up with jerks. I just don't do it anymore. I couldn't last 5 minutes in a room with this guy. He irks my whole soul. It's not even a celebrity thing...it's a regular person to regular person thing.
@@lisabrightly
Whoa, if you fell this way, even only after just a few minutes, maybe that's what Jody went through. I loved Jody Watley's solo music, voice and style. She was the bomb!!!💣🎙🎤🎶🔥
He STILL not accepting accountability nor apologized. He basically saying she should be quiet because he success proved him wrong
Wow...the enlightening info you provided. I see why Jody went her own way....to success and peace of mind. Good move Ms. Whatley!
You blew up!!! Such sweet revenge without the bs bogging you down. Blessings come to good people like her.
Howard Hewett is leaving out the part where he kept calling Jody a bitch and that if she was upset then she must be on her period. I don't know if Howard Hewett was drinking or getting high back then and doesn't remember? Jody says the car that was supposed to be for her in London, Howard had used it for someone else and told Jody Watley he didn't care how she got there to take a cab to the video set if she had to. Jody says Howard called her a bitch for the last time on the Dead Giveaway video set and she left the group and hasn't looked back since. Jody has also said in interviews she's the kind of person who always looks forward and doesn't revisit the past.
He beat her too. The Unsung documentary validates that story.
@@Darkanent Yes you're right.. I think Jody Watley doesn't need to sit with Howard Hewett because it might give him the chance to call her a bitch all over again. If she didn't like him then I doubt he's changed he's the same person and now she doesn't have to deal with it,
Stuff happened...Egos and attitudes aside..Record Labels always try to push a Hot lead singer to leave the group and go solo..This does not always work out...Sometimes the other former members regroup into a new group and have great longevity and success and the once hot lead singer becomes that one hit wonder.. going their separate ways was perhaps for the best for all three..Sometimes it's better that way..
Amen. I knew he wasn't shhh.
I mean it was like 30 years ago. I probably wouldn't remember the specifics of an argument that long ago either
Never gave the 1st REMIX
'Friends' by Jody Watley and Rakim it's proper due.
The Genius of Jody Watley
to (name) the successful Single that Howard doubted after the same moniker as their group album.
Chess move, because Howard witnessed that success same as the rest of us.
That song was the best Rap & R&B collaboration ever. With Joe & Big Pun a distant 2nd. IMO
I still rock "Friends"
He has that joker smile 😃
It's really messed up when music executives split up a great singing group, in order for just one member to go solo, leaving the rest of the group member's behind, when they ALL brought something to the table, musically.
He was an immense talent, an unbelievable voice. He was also cocky and egotistical. Drug addiction humbled his ass.
And the possibility of going to prison definitely humbled him.
This was truly a sad interview on many fronts, because for one, if Howard Hewitt knew what drove Jody Watley the other way, he should have been man enough to apologize for his actions, be accountable. And the reason I say this, is because we've all had experiences in our youth, that lasted us for the rest of our lives. It may not have detoured our path in life, but it's stuck in our memory bank forever and we never truly get over it. Howard could have offered closure by openly apologizing to her for the things he said. Because let's face it, words hurt, and they cut us deep to the core of our souls. And as much as I loved their music, I lost so much respect for Howard after this interview, I mean, I have zero respect for him after this interview. Listen, as a man, we all know women can be very fragile, and as a man, we have to be very careful how we handle our women, Howard arrogantly didn't care. I'm just truly disappointed in him, truly I am.
I agree. He feels like he had jealousies…
Straight garbage 🗑 😒
She must have either disrespected her or she broken his heart because she's not talking about it, he is sounding like a petty hurt little boy . . . after all these years KEEP IT MOVING . . . life is too short.
the soul train dancers also had Jody crying when she got chosen by Don. that's what happens to our special girls.
Her solo career was her best revenge tho! But he really could have owned up and apologized... even if he doesn't remember everything he said. He knew he wasn't too far fetched for saying it.
Shout out to Andre cymone for working with jody watley...
@@hipowa909 i know bro but at time they both needed each other
He had a child by Her !
@@BigDapPacino I know
@@BigDapPacino Yep and Leon Sylvers as well.
Stay tuned everyone, all three members of Shalamar were very significant in their own right
Not just them but Micki, D’Lisa, and Sidney were amazing too. Dick Griffey should have ended Shalamar after Howard left and Micki, D’Lisa, and Sidney perform under a different group name because they were great. Micki Free was so talented and sexy looking, Prince was very jealous of him and tried to end his career
Whats up Uncle Howard!? Hadn't heard from your Tennessee family in a while huh? Hope Aunt Carolyn is doing well too! God bless you Unc!
This group had 2 of the best dancers to ever live
Howard Give Jody her Apology
I always heard Howard was very arrogant and felt HE was the group. Jody said she moved on and with her solo success I believe her.
I can definitely believe that he his arrogant.
No matter what internal problems Shalamar had their music is timeless especially for people in love I will still be playing Shalamar in my 80s if God let's me live that long 😊
My dad was married to this guy's sister.. he never reached out, never answered calls,even when his sister was sick..... not sure I can respect a man like that
Did you know the relationship between them? So you don't know why they weren't speaking.
Wow. Dude...That's a serious accusation. Which one of my sisters are you saying married your father? And what's your father's name?
Greg, I'm surprised and disappointed that you would comment on something you know nothing about. Where in the world did you get your information? 😂
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My favorite was "Dead Getaway", LOVE that song!!!
I remember watching the group Shalamar back in the day and Howard sang lead on most of the songs and you could tell he was full of himself . I'm sure he's said some things like this group would be nothing without me and other things that happened to get back to Jody and she was just done with him . You know Howard said what he said and now acts like he don't remember . He hurt Jody to her soul but she was the one who became the superstar .
He sang lead on 99.9% of the songs because he was the voice of the group. It's not his fault. Dick Griffey knew Howard had the voice and it was his decision to make Howard the lead singer. She was bitter because she watched her role in the group shrink when Howard join Shalmar.
@@ricardocampbell8430 She has no reason to be bitter fool. She out performed him and was way more successful than Howard
@@loveydovey1105 More successful! Stop dreaming clown. Howard records are still being played and being sampled by many rappers. She had that one Lil wack asssss song that nobody remembers. Her fame came from being in the group, not because of her solo records. I supported her because of Shalamar, even bought her records and I still regret wasting my damnnn money on her wack asssss album. Howard on the the other hand has hits for days. Go research your research iddiottttt
It's amazing how we have access to the internet but people will not use it to research. Jody Watley has addressed this, there's more to the story than what Howard Hewett is telling...
Sometimes you don't want to go back into negative situations.
People forget when it came to doing the album with Babyface, Howard did the same thing he did when he was at Solar: try to broker a deal to get more money than the other two. How the hell did he think that would happen when Jody was the bigger star. Leopards don't change stripes
Howard told Jody, “you without Shalamar is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes. You’ll neva go platinum!”
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You mean Teddy Pendergrass without the Blue Notes.
@@56YoLefty Harold never got over folks confusing him with Teddy, even decades later. Lol.
@@56YoLefty obviously you have never listed to the Doggystyle album 😵💫
@@56YoLefty that’s not what Snoop Dogg said
Jody is NOT doing anything related to Shalamar!! She was disrespected for years, and she doesn’t Phuck with them anymore
He is NOT taking responsibility for his actions trying to blame her relationship with Jeffrey. No howard you had a ego and Jody was not having it honey. Grow up
I Don't Wanna Be That Last To Know is my favorite song from Shalamar
Awesome song!!!!
That's a tight song.....
My favorite song by Shalamar is "Take That To The Bank", that was before Howard Hewett joined Shalamar. I love that song. When she went solo her music career took way off with music awards and a grammy award. Shalamar never had the music success she had when she went solo.
Jody's career was great, but she sat in the shadows of other greats at that time, who are still great today.
I appreciate Howard's telling of 'A' story but when it comes to Jody, who I have seen in different interviews while going down the rabbit hole today, she seems very well adjusted. Happy. Content. She does not seem like a small-minded petty woman. That tells me there is more to it. The fact that she has never even said "Now what N" says a lot. The lure of making a few extra bucks means nothing to her. What she feels is deeper than that. When someone does not want to revisit a part of their life it's because it was toxic and or traumatizing. Howard and Vlad can blow it off as a 'That dumb' but IMO it is not. Not everything can be forgiven. Quite honestly his arrogance should be the end of the conversation. Shalamar was who they were. We can listen to their songs anytime. Do your thing Jody!!
That was a looooooong story, SMH. Given how the Music industry is to women and then black women, I smell a rat. I'm glad Jody moved on.
In spite of what I "heard" Howard say, he never asked for her "FORGIVENESS" for saying those hurtful things to Jody. She has feelings too, and he should have been the "bigger person" and did that. I never heard him say, or anyone else say, that she has said anything derogatory about him publicly or privately. I don't care if the argument happened 100 years ago, when you say mean and hurtful things to someone and when you really "finally" realize that what you said hurt them, then "quickly" ask for their forgiveness. It may not have been a "big" thing to him, but as a young person then and as a much more mature person now, it was obviously a VERY BIG thing to her. Personally, I think that she has forgiven him and moved on, but the hurt is still there and you can't just expect Jody to want to be around Howard knowing that he was not even willing to speak with her one-on-one about this situation after all of these years. Yeah, yeah, "Forgive and Forget" is an easy thing to say, but it doesn't mean that she is willing to spend time around someone (Howard, in this case) that may still even now say something else hurtful to her. Especially, if they never came back and asked for forgiveness for what they had previously said about her. Howard (in my humble opinion) should offer the "Olive Branch," not Jody, that is of course, if he "REALLY" wants to settle things with her.
shalamar was so good, one of my favorite groups back in the day
So he interviewed a legend and never told him that his glasses were crooked 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾
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I thought the same thing!!!
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LMAOOOOOO
Man I absolutely loved Shalimar Jeffrey Jody and Howard. As a fan I would love to see the three of them perform again, but I understand this may never happen.
I was just rockin some Jody Watley yesterday 🎙🎼🎧
Have always loved and admired her voice, style, music & videos ! Still listening in 2023💃🏻
Jody Watley became a huge star without Shalamar. I love the group but I loved her as a solo act. She was idol back then. Love me some.Jody Watley.
I love Shalamar. Unfortunately, Howard Hewitt is lying when he talks about his beef with Jody. It's cool.
How do you know, were you there?
Say more, not less wtf
Jody talked about it on her website years ago. She had receipts to back up everything. Jody and Howard did have a huge fallout but Jody no longer cares. She’s left it behind
FACTS. Howard admitted on their Unsung documentary that he did tried to hit on Jody and she told him no. He was mad that Jody didn't sleep with him and Dick Griffey had favored Howard over Jody and Jeffrey.
@@music4thesoul-bymastalee6375 Right.
Man.... I'm GLUED to this interview!!!
Thank you SHAWN for doing a great job my man...
Good job Jody! Stay away from negativity.
Two of my favorite people in music, Jody and Howard, and still is. You are all the best. I am going to listen some Shalamar music now.
I love Shalamar and their music but never knew of Howard Hewett’s behavior but I believe Jody Watley’s solo career was more successful than his. It earned her hits, awards, gold and platinum albums, etc. Howard has had top ten hits but not any number one soul hits. Jody has had number one and top ten hits!!!
A simple apology…. Didn’t hear him say that he apologized. Come on Howard “ Be for real “ .
She made a statement at the grammy’s to those who thought she would never make it
Here's my take on that. I'm speaking from my own experiences with long-festering feuds I've had which lasted decades. When you ask those involved in said feud what caused it, you will get one that can itemize everything the other did to taint that relationship. The other guy will say, "O, I have NO idea what happened." It's a total mystery to them. Be very careful of that second one feigning ignorance. They know EXACTLY what went down but telling the truth would put them in a bad light, so they take the cowardly route out - pretending they're totally oblivious to the cause. Jody always said Howard was a nasty piece of work. He had an attitude like he was the voice of Shalamar and the other two were easily replaceable. He was the star; they - the minions. When Jermaine Stewart was with Jody, Howard would habitually hurl derogatory names at him like 'f*ggot.' That's who he was. He's fully aware of the part he played in the breakdown of their relationship.
YIKES.
Well said Dame Martha Talker, well said
wow..never knew the Jermaine part
@@brothercinnamon2479 Yeah, he would do it maliciously just to torment him. How is that kind of person not a certifiable A-HOLE? Jody took it personally, to heart - as any real friend would. In the aftermath, it resonates on an even deeper level being that Jermaine would die prematurely from the AIDs virus.
@@brothercinnamon2479 me meither. Just wow!
I love Shalamar they are one of my favorite groups. I hate that the original three couldn’t get along anymore. I was 4 in 1986 when Jody Watley first solo single came out and I loved watching her music videos. She instantly became one of my favorite singers.
Howard had one of the most badass voices in the business.
If someone remembered that years later, you definitely said it. I don’t like when people have selective amnesia about things that make them look bad.
Howard, isn’t being fully honest. Jody, spoke about this years ago, dude slandered her. Jody, stated group relationship was toxic and there wasn’t equity. There is no Shalimar without, Jody who wants to see some random singing/dancing to her parts. LOL
Jody, has been touring (prior to C*vid) quite fine, by her lonely. The best revenge is moving on with life and showing she doesn’t need you guys.. It’s unfortunate it ended this way, however I’m all for people protecting their mental peace/space.
My favorite Shalimar track is “Take Dat To The Bank”.. cool song..
He beat on her as well. I lost all respect for him when I found that out.
@@Darkanent Exactly! Karma is something else. She isn't dividing up her money three ways to Sunday. And that advance he took while the other two were stuck in the cold? Well, Griffeys daughter makes more than both of them so you do reap what you sow eventually
From what I heard, Howard talked too much. I heard that Howard would say mean things about Jodie when she was having her baby. He even said something about Jodie on air, and Jodie called into the radio to put a stop to it. Sometimes when a member of the group talks too much, they do not know all of what they say that maybe hurtful.
Pressured her to abort her baby, hello!
@@tara3870 Yes.
I'm sure everyone had their faults but we need to remember that Dick Griffey also played a MAJOR role in the division within Shalamar; he was openly disrespectful to Jody and I'm sure he favored and filled Howard's head with dreams. They say DG was uh...a little crooked...
Griffey was an asshole for sure.
@@ezekielmajor5511 They get no royalties from their work with Shalamar
Your glasses are crooked Mr. Hewitt😊, love your work❤️🤘🏾
Love the group. They are all talented.