Battlefield 2042 is in very (very) rough shape - Beta impressions
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Battlefield 2042 is fun. It has lots of good ideas, and some really bad ones. It's also very buggy and unfinished. Unless DICE can guarantee that this will be a complete and polished product by release, a delay makes sense.
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Where is the GreenMyMan video which was mentioned in the video? Cannot seem to find him or the vid.
Have a Series X. Been playing games since Atari and this game is not BF. It's like a poor man's COD/Apex Mashup. So many bad design choices its mind boggling. At least it helped me see when it comes to big youtubers who a shill and who's not. So thank you for being honest and just stating facts brotha.
Will you be reviewing The RiftBreaker ? It releases this week 🤞
Why did you say blue?... The video clearly shows green.... I'm concerned for you
This is what I imagine Halo Infinite would’ve run like if it hadn’t been delayed a year
Lol yeah After halo had that humbling feedback from the fanbase they really turned it around, Bf needs to put effort into making a both smooth and grand game based around what the fans want while also pushing the bar of innovation like Infinite has.
Ayyyy, foxy, cool to see you here.
@@Fly6lights innovation? What has halo infinite done new? I'm genuinely curious lol. Only new thing I saw was the grappling hook which many games already have
@@punani_slayer4209 for halo. It’s a renaissance. For FPS games it’s a return to form.
@@punani_slayer4209 innovation for halo
Dice: “We’re dropping the single player campaign so we can put all our man power into working on multiplayer”
Me: “okay… so then why is the beta so half assed..?”
EA: "Because why bother polishing a glorified server load test."
It all went into the plans for monetization of the "hero" characters they are gonna release down the lane. And also, gotta get it out before the holidays.
Im 99 percent sure that after launch the full focus will be on the Specialist customizations which will undoubtedly be for sale on day one with some sort of currency that you buy from another currency that can be exhanged for some other currency. Im predicting EA has finally killed DICE with their middle management bullshit. All those removed features reek of a project manager whom has never played a good battlefeild game and doesnt really give ashit what kind of game their makng as long as it has the the skeleton of something useful as a loot sales tool.
I mean, if the maps are all this size and there are a decent amount, I'd say the removal of single player is worth it.
DICE is lying. A beta is supposed to be for giving feedback to developers about glitches and game play. How can they receive feedback from a two month old beta build..? Hate to admit it, but BF2042 is DOA and officially on the NO BUY LIST...!
Police: "911, what's your emergency?"
Me: "My hype was murdered!"
Police: "Any suspects?"
Me: "EA and DICE."
Police: “You are under arrest”
You: “Why?”
Police: “you hyped a DICE/EA game in 2021”
@@viniciuscoxoba3842 I know, I'm criminal. But your honor, I love Halo more.
@@asternshelf2459 yeah bro
@@viniciuscoxoba3842 Alternate ending: Dice and EA pay the judge and jury in court so they automatically win the court case.
Here's a lesson I learned from "next gen" games: If they have a year in their title, it's only gonna be a finished game when that year comes.
So, name my game 2019. Got it. ;)
So when is Silksong coming?
GTA 6 comin 3006
That's funny! Good one
Womp womp
Halo Infinite being delayed a year feels like a better decision every day.
Yes, and considering that we still haven't seen new campaign footage, im guessing the campaign is buggy af and could use another 6 month delay. I wouldn't mind if it was delayed again that long but Microsoft aren't moving the release date at all
@@theogknight2292 you should be in the olympics with how far you're jumping to conclusions
@@UnfunnyFigs I like how you made your point 😂
And even before Halo was delayed people were saying “the build is months old!” Same excuses different games just delay it.
@@theogknight2292 The reason you haven't seen campaign yet is because they've been fixing bugs. They've stated as much. They also said they will show campaign before launch.
Not gonna lie. This beta killed like 75% of my hype for this game.
Agreed. Just like the Vanguard beta did nothing to convince me to spend $70 on COD, This beta did very little to entice me buy the game.
made me cancel my pre order
@@THEODSTKING117 Bruh, why are you preordering in 2021 mang?
@@RawkL0bster well im not anymore lol
100% for me i hate how they butchered classes
Keep in mind the word 'beta' these days now means, "early access" and is used more so for marketing rather than feedback.
I remember when battlefield 1 came out, and it was a totally unique experience that felt like you were playing a movie. 2042 just feels like a re-skinned warzone.
When bf1 came out people were mad because it was too different from bf4
I was never a big fan of BF1 , didn’t like the gunplay, but I do have to give it major props in the immersion and graphics department.
@@PanosPitsi nah that was just the bf4 sweaties, the overall player response for bf1 was an overwhelmingly positive one, which can’t be said for 2042
@@kuza3 I didn’t play bf1 but I can recall seeing people saying it was too different. Anyways it was a huge mistake of them making ww1 and ww2 games back to back, it was 6 years and people got so tired
You’re the reason I don’t like Asians
Classes were a necessity foundation to Battlefield's core formula. There isn't any squad cohesion having specialists focusing on teamwork playing supporting roles. Not to mention the specialists kind of ruin the distinction between friend and foe. Battlefield right now has somewhat of an identity crisis, and is straying too far from the essence catering towards other audiences
I find myself ignoring team play far more now than I used to and it feels more like I'm playing CoD which isn't bad but this is not CoD it's BF...
Every BF game I have played I've never hardly seen any team work, never get anyone dropping stuff I pick up more from other team members but I agree from what I've read it's not BF
Sounds like they were making a BR and after testing it knew it was DOA, so now they make a trailer that acts like they are returning to roots. Only to show us the most mindless and pointless shooter I’ve playing in awhile. No team focus, no chat, it’s obvious they didn’t want a chat box so we could talk to each other about how god awful this is.
The Shills are working hard, great time for people to spot the rats.
Bigfry pointed this out on his video (something I originally missed) but specialists dont have any form of distinction between either team side (like camo etc.) and considering the UI still labels US/RU when the lore is suppose to be "no-pats" instantly gave me red flags that specialists were a very recent addition to the game making me wonder "what changed" and how much of the game was actually thought about with specialists in mind (probs very little) if they couldnt even be bothered to change the UI elements that got copy pasted from old BF titles lmao.
@@extraordinarilybasic3250 very good point, we're seeing with the absolute garbage heap that is Ghost Recon: Frontline that some developers may have pursued this formula too hard.
Imagine calling them specialists when they can use any weapon and gadget so they are much less specialized than regular classes.
They’re more generic than the actual classes yet they are straight up characters instead of generic soldiers. It makes zero sense.
@@ZoomGears ow it makes sense my friend. They use operators to sell skins for it later just like any other shooter these days. Dice is a joke
It boggles the mind.
Just give me my generic white guy and I'll be happy
As others have pointed out, the game seems hinged on the 'hero' characters and their inevitable heavy monetisation. You ain't gonna see this mechanic reworked, ever.
Hero characters are baffling in a one-of-many game like BF.
I fucking hate this overwatch type shit. Just give me generic Joe medic that just says funny shit every time he gets shot at. Bf4 and 3’s infantry have more character than these “specialists”.
The heavy hand of EA at work.
Jooo that's me :)15:47 I have to say there is something in the core gameplay I very much enjoy. Evidently. But I also have to agree with all the points you made. It feels like there are about 100 different polishing and quality of life features that previous battlefield games had, that wouldn't have clashed with the 2042 vision. In addition to all the new problem. This could be a fantastic game in 2 years from now. So it IS the true BF4 successor ;)
all those features will come in the next DLC. along with specialist skins and battle pass.
What up Mokey!
core gameplay sucks lmao. love the apex content tho
"BF will kill COD this year"
welp we lost this one boys, COD and BF both killed themselves
$120 saved, time to play Halo for free😍
Yeah, guess my shooter itch will be scratched by Halo Infinite, Halo MCC, and BF4 for a while...
What a time to be alive.
Well thank god one of them pulled though, was really optimistic about battlefield and was almost certain it was going to be my main game to play. But halo my god the halo flights where really good. I mean I was hyped for both but with halo I was more uncertain with that game since the e3 reveal. What a change of events!
@@BAGELMENSK At this point, we truly are living in the darkest timeline.... How do we switch to a different one? Is it too late?
@@TheLoneMartian it’s alright, Halo is the bright light for us shooter fans. Man what a game, and it’s free!
This beta looks bad, but thankfully EA/DICE never release buggy, unfinished products so I think we can all relax and expect a meticulous, finely tuned product at launch...
😅
at this point it's a tradition now, since BF3 every release needs at least 8 months to 1 year to be fixed.
@@ghostmw8 Not sure for BF3 I heard great reviews on it, but for BF4...that was a used toilet paper on release.
It’s pretty obvious the CEOs at EA were drooling over Warzone/Fortnite $$ numbers and told the devs to make it more like what the kids want so they can max out mom/dads credit card
hol up
It's jank in a sort of way that you would expect from an Early Access game on Steam, not Dice who's been around for dozens of years and made multiple games in their own engine. A mere weeks from release on top of that. It needs a delay, another year in the oven.
bro this is the exact jank you should expect from dice. literally EVERY bf game is either buggy as fuck in beta, or launch, or both.
@@yayayayayaya8140 yeah it took like 2-3 year until they ironed BF4 out.
@@yayayayayaya8140 only since BF4 i.e since EA was at the helm. BF3 wasnt perfect but it was playable. bc2 was great at launch
@@yayayayayaya8140
Eh not really.
Battlefield 2 & Battlefield 2142 were great at launch.
The Lean out of cover feature needs to be mandatory in every fps
Heck even Stalker (2007) has that. I was so used to it when playing Stalker for a thousand hours that when I started playing other shooters, it was jarring.
I wish they brought over all the good features of BF5, like the destruction, fortifications and movement to a BF4 style game. How did they drop the ball so hard? Bf1 and BF4 are my go to BF games at the moment
I am so disappointed and confused at the decisions dice have made.
I shed a tear when I couldn’t lay on my back in the 2042 beta like I could in BF5 🥲 downgrading that perfect movement of BF5 makes me sad.
don't forget the incredible atmosphere of BF1 ;)
If only they implemented:
BFV Movement
BF1 Atmosphere
BF4 Vehicles feel
BF3 Type maps and gun feel
And you know, don't strip the core elements that make battlefield fun. They quite had it in front of them.
Im all for the storm and such, but I'd trade it anyday for a basic core elements to work like butter.
Fortifications suck
I played for just three hours and I've seen literally every one of these bugs. They are ubiqutous and immediately obvious.
I literally played 5 minutes and my reaction was like ooooh no its one of thoose.
@@Spright91 i have really good wifi and a decent setup but the game still ran like shit even after i lowered everything to optimize performance. Ex. hitching, freezing, among other things. Did you have any of these problems?
Same. I played this beta for 2 hours but just had to stop because everything felt awful, from gunplay to frame stuttering to awful map design to the numerous glitches. Glad I didn't preorder this game and yikes for anyone who did
@@kobejohnson3749 All of them have a good setup and connection too. I saw every pone of these bugs in every match i had. often constantly.
How can a company which makes these games every few years be so bad at it... This is like the 6th major battlefield game..
The bugs and performance will be fixed. The lack of the iconic, legendary classes, the lack of distinct languages and distinct uniforms for each faction in the main 2042 experience was enough for me to get a refund on my pre order. All of the other popular and iconic quality of life elements of the UI that DICE just throw out the window is also mind blowing. I sat out cops and robbers(Hardline) I can sit out Apex Legends 2042.
Even the movement feels like something I can get over but the decision to fundamentally gut squad play is by far the worst game design decision I've seen BF make in a long ass time.
Just some advice, never pre order any triple a titles anymore ESPECIALLY in today’s market. At the state we’re at with video games right now it isn’t a good idea.
This is exactly how I felt and what I did.
Imagine pre-ordering a game you didn't even decide to look into. They advertised in like everything that there will be specialist operators instead of the well known regular class system.
Probably the last time I’ll be messing with a Battlefield game. Nailed the coffins with this one
I just bought bf 4 lol
@@siavashhatef5623 smart
@@peautifulbenis3673Been a cod player for a over 10 years but cod turned to crap so Wanted try some bf for first time looked at the bf 1 reviews on steam and people said there are so many hackers Its not playable so just bought 4 , Is it good?
@@siavashhatef5623 4 is amazing. Have fun man. It’s definitely my favorite one.
The “it’s just a beta” kids seemed to have forgotten previous entries of BF, and games like fallout 76.
If the beta isn’t at least 6-9 months before launch. It’s a demo or a stress test at most
Bro, there were things that are pre alpha issues. It's weird. Idk where their dev time went but this game needs some TLC (time, love, and care)
Anybody who doesn't know that by now is an idiot or a fanboy. But I repeat myself....
By that do you mean that this should be a "stress test" or demo and not a beta. But it is actually a beta extremely close to launch.
The main problem isn't even "beta" issues like bugs, performance, UI, etc.
The core of the game is massively flawed which is something no day one patch will fix.
@@croisaor2308 that too, I just can’t see my self playing this game with all the design changes. I’ll stick to halo probably.
I remember booting up Battlefield 1 and being awe of the spectacle of it all. Matches of that game were stunning IMO. It had an epic and grand feeling that was lacking in the competition. This beta put me to sleep
Grand Ops in BF1 were amazing, felt like an actual war. I am deeply saddened at their loss.
@@MrTalithan Breakthrough is still a launch game mode. Not that it helps 2042 much
@@jarrodbirbs Eh, Breakthrough still doesn't have the Grand Ops vibe, though :(
I feel like they just chose a shit map. I mean half the game lobby at least is always on the skyscrapers. Hopefully this is the worst map cus if there’s anything worse than this it’s DOA.
Even BF1 lacked content at launch but I don't remember bugs and glitches like this. I finally developed a liking to BFV after putting some hours into it since all the updates. (Visibility is still trash unless playing Recon though) BF1 remains the better game of the two.
I have never ever heard anyone say "damn I love these hero classes in this shooter, they are so much better than normal classes with lots of customization".
CoD has been obsessed with "heroes" for a while, and 100% of the people I have spoken to, absolutely hate it, or just don't care. It just feels "off" when you have "heroes" with lore and personality, in a shooter where the match can have multiple of the same character with "lots of personality" running around. It works in Rainbow six siege because there can only be one of each operator in a match.
The old class system in BF3 and BF4 felt way more natural, since most of the time your character is masked, his personality isn't important. He is just another soldier with a standard kit to match his role in the nation he is from in that match. It feels like everyone is just a nameless soldier in this mass of chaos and violence. It feels right. 60 clones of the same guy with an exaggerated Russian man accent, shouting the same jokes and voicelines with "lots of personality" feels wrong.
Omg I totally agree
There’s a problem with a game not being playable on last gen, considering it’s still very hard to get your hands on a current gen console. Sony is expecting production issues till possibly even 2023...
I think the plan is to make up sales with specialist skins
It's especially funny with how good BF1 AND BFV look on the ps4/one
Their visually fantastic and I can't say this game looks more impressive than them in any real shape or form
Halo infinite: everyone laughed at me a year ago, well look at me now!
Play all the 3 bèta’s from the big 3. And halo now is the one I want the most!
now let's see if Dice has the balls to delay this for a year
@Slade Western If anything that adds to the point more no? Halo's beta is streets ahead of Battfield's by far despite beings months away from a release. And 2042 was delayed as well, so it makes even less sense for why the beta is the way it is.
Don’t know how the campaign is yet so still kinda laughing, multiplayer is fire though.
@@hiddenleafdrip3869 good community reference
Seeing 30 Webster Mackays fighting against each other is just so goofy.
The anonymous soldiers from the previous games were way better imo
Yeah, where is the sense of US vs THEM?
The fact they didn't even do camo colors (one desert cam, one multicam? Duh?) is such an oversight that it's just...stupid.
"EA: But.. but we want to sell 30$ operator packs like Warzone :("
the bots literally have better uniforms and appearances then the specialists we play as lol
@@coleG112 Don't worry, when the game comes out you'll be able to purchase the Desert Cam pack for Webster for just 19.99$ !
The difference between the Halo Infinite testing (tested 3 times so far) and BF/COD is pretty crazy. Halo Infinite feels so much more polished. Wasn't expecting it to be this good, where as BF I was expecting to like it the most of the 3, not even close though, Halo Infinite BTB is way more fun and polished than what BF and COD is offering this year.
Plus it actually felt like the halo infinite beta was actually being tested instead of being used as marketing, they had 3 tests and most of them happened months before launch meanwhile 2042 launches next month
@@Mr.Scott86 Yeah, for a long time Betas have essentially been purely marketing schemes. Halo Infinite has seemingly done what no other game has, make a beta test about actually testing the game. I think the high degree that Halo devs took fan reaction to heart makes them determined to do everything possible to make the game good.
If you told me that Halo Infinite was completely released during the tech preview, I would have believed you. There were a few minor issues, but small enough I could easily forgive those for launch. It appears as though the launch will be even more polished. Halo has already won this gen.
@@JohnFromAccounting Yeah I was honestly surprised and blown away how fun and polished the tests have been. As you said sure some smaller things but nothing super gamebreaking. Was fun, polished and got me way more excited for the game than I was. It seems like that extra year to work on the game paid off because it just feels great, most fun I have had on CTF since the old Unreal capture the flag :)
@@KatalistProductionsKozzySasha how dumb do you feel now? 😂
Broken halo game with minimum content, lots of bugs, no updates and no love service. Oh, but the store works 100%
Since they are not making a single player campaign I figured the game would be polish as hell.
"Let battlefield, be battlefield." They said, stripping out half the shit people liked.
yeah the whole specialist system is SUCH a turn off for me.
"Let them eat cake" more like
Crowbcat doesnt cover this catastrophic disaster ill start panic
@@PolarIre hope he's gone for good. that asshole ruined games analysis. cinemasins of games
@@ShmoozeEvolution I canceled my preorder so fast I almost broke the sound barrier.
Probably the most honest Battlefield coverage you're ever gonna get. Westie, LevelCap and Jackfrags i'm looking at you.
Westie, LevelCap and Jackfrags dont want to jeopardize their partner ships with publishers/devs lol.
You can add Stodeh and Tactical Brit to that, the shilling is so obvious. Jack's not so bad, he's not hyping the game up nearly so much and is a bit more critical than the others.
Stop watching those channels, they are paid sponsorship channels and pretty much sugar coat any garbage they are paid to play.
@@mwahahaha2100 yeah I love jack and at least he is trying
Act man has said the same as Skill up here
This game really dropped expectations, especially after the quality of the Halo Infinite previews
The whole change to the specialist system has pretty much checked me out. This plus the T menu and grapple hook, ya I'm out. It's cool to see them putting a bunch of work into new development in to battlefield, but this is too far off course imo. I honestly would have settled for a solid BF3/BF4 remaster.
Dude....this! When I realized that we had no squad leader, our medic was hanging back farming kills on a tower, and no squad based bonuses or incentives to work together, I was like "This isn't battlefield, this is COD ground war with tweaked destruction. I'm not pre-ordering this shit". If I want to run around and rambo out on my own getting kills, I'll start up COD:MW and rock out on 24/7 shipment. If I want an immersive experience where it feels like every engagement with my squad is like something out of Black Hawk Down or Saving Private Ryan, I'll fucking play Battlefield 4. Whoever made the decision to implement specialist and get rid of squad based roles needs to be fired...asap. It's always some money hungry executive that completely destroys a game in the name of their bottom line.
Remasters don't sell skins. EA did another Battlefront 2. Good job EA, still dirty as ever.
IKR they're trying to APEX ma BF, fuck that shit!
im going to say its nice to see a video that talks about the issues with the game in detail. Alot of big BF streamers / youtubers have stepped around the issues or just flat out wont give there opinions because they dont want to talk shit about a game and have a chance for Dice / EA to shut the door on them in the future.
Soo true! A lot of them are implying “ it’s good and I can’t wait, a little issues here but nothing to see here. It’s a good game!” I am here like a dumb ass going wtf game are they playing!?
Never trust 1 game only content creators. Especially for multi-player games most of them are massive shills because they get income from there.
He’s only Shillup for the Outerwilds, Final Fantasy XIV, and apparently Hot Wheels now I guess.
*cough jack frags cough*
@@BassiLLusionzZ awe cmon I like jack.
As someone who was a part of the technical alpha, I was shocked at how much had not changed for the beta.
Ngl, i genuinly thought we had been let loose on the alpha this build is so unfinished
The alpha was capped at 30 fps, couldnt even play it. I did enjoy the beta tho
I don't think they do actual alpha/beta tests based on what they even say which is that it's a separate branch taken out of active development and polished a bit for it's own temporary purposes. An alpha could be part of that 'in development' line but it should be fairly in-line and those polishes should be applied to the main build. Beta should be "We are done developing and are now polishing the game (Everything is in, just bugfixing it all now) so we need help to find and fix bugs before release" and well... 3 days doesn't do that >_> It was meant to be a marketing build but oops lol.
Don't worry guys, they'll fix all the bugs for the official release just wait and see /s
@@Androwski69 this, whole alpha beta concept with AAA games is fucked. Lackluster demo some days before release is no fkn beta. AAA CEO shitheads need to learn that.
I had some classic Bf moments : Spawn middle of nowhere to get shot in the back . Spawn in a chopper to get instantly killed, love it.
This is by far one of the best videos summing up all the issues. Absolutely well done and I agree on literally all of your points. Keep it up!
Oddly enough, it's rough shape isn't even my main concern. It's that the vision of the specialists/(no)classes/gadgets is horribly wrong for the series, and somehow they (Dice) believed they could gut it from a Battlefield game and their player base would just accept it.
Exactly. Let's be as vocal as we can, and make sure they understand what is needed. That may make this good.
I liked the new system. I hope it stays.
@@mrballpython2105 can you explain why?
@@mrballpython2105 Why tho
Plus the player movement speed is totally FKED, bugs & glitches ASIDE...
How is it that 2 generations ago we had much more technical marvels with destruction physics compared to now? They still happen but i always found it weird how so much progress gets thrown out the window or flat out ignored
Probably because that takes more effort to implement. Companies now don’t care about innovation, just money.
@@SemperSalam but that's what I don't understand, if it was already done before wouldn't it be easier now to pull it off? Especially if it's by the same studio/publisher?
@@Arcademan09 Implementing stuff from previous gen and upgrading new stuff is very hard to do because they have certain limitations, if they want to increase the size of the map they need to downgrade some stuff from previous games. Hence the movement in this feels floaty and fast paced compared to bf1 and bfV because map has become large. Animations feel lacking compared to bf1 and bfV because again they want to game to play fast paced due to map being large.
It is a question of what do you want to have in your game. A lot of big "set pieces" like the rocket launch area or the big "scyscraper" do not work well with full destructability. Also zip lines, elevators and all that stuff do not work with that.
Then it is also a question of game balance and feel. Bad Company 2 had amazing destruction posibilities. Which was super fun but after a couple minutes of gameplay the whole map turned into a single flat surface because every building on it was destroyed. Which is a problem for infantry because a single tank can lock down half of the map and many players start to snipe from super far away because running across an open field without any cover is not fun.
Scaling the game up to huge 128 player matches makes destructability more computationally difficult
This game needs to be delayed. Gamers are not gonna stick around considering what state this game will be in for a while.
exactly my impression ralph, thanks for the in depth video!
Imagine a hardcore mode where all the character models look the same...sounds so fun
I doubt there will be a hardcore mode. Maybe in Portal but not in the default conquest with the heroe-- I mean, speciali-- I mean, operators.
If you’re truly hardcore like me? You make your own hardcore mode. Put on a blindfold and have a loved one repeatedly slap you in the face while you play.
@@MrMightyZ What if you don't have loved ones? Can you do the "stranger" where you sit on your hand until it goes numb and then slap your own face with it?
@@HenkkaArtGames Doing it that way would just make it even harder-core. I don’t know you but I respect you.
Inb4 they sell skins for specialists
No way in hell is EA going to miss out on a Q4 launch date
And that’s the depressing part
They should release in Q4.... next year
No idea why investors panic sell if it misses a quarter. The game is still coming out, and heavy developer time is needed after launch if the game is rushed
missing holiday season? not even once!
This review is spot on and completely representative of my beta experience
I'm so glad this video exists. I was playing this beta on my pc which is NOT brand new, but it's still a good rig. The other two guys thought I was crazy with the amount of bugs I was witnessing/experiencing, chief among them being net code issues. Thumbs up from me
Well done breaking it down. Best summary I've seen. It's a huge mess. This game needs a full year of work just to be release functional.
The game can wait a full year but Andy's bonus can't. And his bonus is directly related to how many players DICE can bring onboard.
@@kaushiktalukdar7949 and thats why its need to be released now befor the hype train leaves the station of bf 2042
@@WeedDays if they wanted the hype train to sty then they shouldn't have released there version of F76 for a beta if anything it killed the hype for many players.
@@WeedDays Uhh that train has been derailed and there are casualties.
Pushed to nov.5
Being a good squad member/leader(edit: and being rewarded big points for it) was the most fun I got from playing with randoms in previous Battlefield games, and they ripped absolutely everything squad related from this. Also it realllyy wears on your enjoyment of the game when the sky is trying to give you seizures every 5 seconds.
I miss those days. I had a regular squad and played recon like spec ops not a sniper. Those guys who always back capped even in metro that was us, it was great fun. You eventually learn having enemies spotted is amazing, you can see the battle line, the holes, and the respawn waves. You also realize a lot of the time people only run and look forward. It was great fun finding hiding spots in plain sight.
You could honestly get a ton of enjoyment out of playing w/ random people back then (BF4/3 especially). Can’t believe how absent team-play was in the 2042 Beta.
This franchise has been gutted w/ every subsequent release.
teamwork doesnt sell skins
I went to play bf4 after the 2042 beta and god damn do I miss it. Hopped in a game and it felt great to be in a team. Playing engineer and repairing vehicles for teammates or taking out other vehicles to support them. Playing medic and reviving people or making sure they had health packs. So much fun.
Maybe EA made them do specialists for the money milking they can do with skins or maybe people just don't like to be a team player and wanna be Rambo.
@@jayespin That all sounds like stuff i was doing in 2042
20:53 the way you set these things up 🤣
I'm sad, I want Battlefield to be good cuz I love the huge fights with everything going on. At least now I'm prepared for the disappointment.
Just play BF4, it's better than this
Damn, there goes my tiny amount of hype for this game. RIP squad play.
It’s very fun
@@hypermemes2821 played it on ps4 and it was far from fun, i am getting a ps5 in the future but i really wanted to play this game before getting it (now that there isnt even a next gen upgrade, i am just not getting the game for either gen)
@@Styx313 universal gadget shit? So I can be medic and repair and have c4 on the fly or how does it work?
@@MajorasLullaby Yes, everyone just runs the most op META character with a grappling hook and a RPG.
And medics are usless because everyone has a COD autoheal. Just wait 10 sec and your full health again.
It’s literally a warzone reskin.
@@MajorasLullaby The Game has Automatic Health Regen for the Infantry and Self Auto Repair for the Vehicles basically made the medic bag worthless due to how fast people can regen their health when not getting hit, I'm not sure if their is any gadget that repairs Vehicles currently. Reviving Team Mates is also worse causing people to just Respawn then waiting for their team to try and fail to revive them wasting their teams tickets.
As for the Universal Gadget Shit, I think you can have something like Medic Bag or Ammo Bag, with C4 or AT/AA Launcher.
…Why? I had no idea they made all these changes (aka removals) to the class and squad system. Like, THAT was the reason I loved Battlefield, getting into a squad and working together with them. After hearing this I don’t think I have any interest in this one and that’s super disappointing. I just recently picked up Hell Let Loose and have been having a blast with that at least.
ever since bf1 teamplay has been removed more and more and now its not there anymore
@@user-jq6fe9pk2i to be honest I'm surprised they did not implement character personalisation (like in black dessert online) and let players just change eq plus buy cosmetics. $$
I oi0
I think what they want to do is they don’t want you to HAVE to play a class you don’t like just cause it’s missing in your team, so they just want players to be able to be way more flexible.
@@batonnikus That is still the plan though. They know that no one wants to play a clone trooper for long. They want some of that Fortnite skin money.
I just have to say this is probably the best review I’ve seen for this beta. Are you Australian btw? Cheers from Sydney bro
The fact that this game is in such a rough shape and it doesn't even have a campaign is absurd. If it's multi-player only then it should be pristine at launch.
You genuinely had the best video covering this game even compared to the normal battlefield UA-camrs.
Yeah, agreed, this was pretty comprehensive.
Skill up, truly has really good quality videos, he's also really blessed to be on the algorithm.
I'm so glad someone finally mentioned the "D" word. This game absolutely needs to be delayed and given more time to fix... well, everything!
Bro shut up
@@mariov6048 You're mad he's right, and unfortunately for you you're also too damn unintelligent to provide a proper response, cry about it.
@@croncastle3028 lol I'm not mad I thought it was funny to say that. Go cry about it? Uhhh.. who are you again? Yeah exactly lmao 😂😂
But yeah no this game is a fuckin mess. Needs to be delayed by like 3 - 6 months
Cron Castle is human garbage.
In an English accent: "the textures are ass."
Lmao!
Reviews like this are why I subbed to your channel. Honest, informative, well-written, actually uses cursing.
Thanks and keep up the good work!
Skill Up is Australian
@@gileso8809 skillup is french
17:59 CEO Andy Wilson :-D
Nice one.
I cannot believe how many people actually fall for the whole "it's a beta!" bullshit after all of these years of every game saying the same thing and every release still being buggy.
They think developers can fix a broken game within a month. It’s laughable.
If it was one year ago, then I would say "ok sure, beta". One month? That means the release will be beta as well. And I have no idea why they apparantly, from themselves, release a outdated version of the game as a open beta. Wtf is the point in that? This release is gonna be as I expected, a pile of crap.
@@_.-_Crimpy-_..-. exactly. cyberpunk came out almost a year ago and it is still broken. Beta a month before release is a server stress test. That's all
@Hugo Fergusson Four month old, two month old, seven month old build... christ, why is there no consistency with this fucking timeframe?
People are dumb and have a memory power of a goldfish
What really put it in perspective for me was just coming off the Halo beta and it feeling so damn good. I still had a lot of fun on the BF2042 beta but it needs a lot of work when compared to how polished Halo's beta was being even farther out from launch.
Halo beta was polished but BF 2042 was way more fun and has more potential tha Halo at the moment
@@normalperson696 I disagree but to each their own.
@@Mayorofsexytown1303 Yeah I thought Halo's beta was much more fun.
My framerate in 2042 was twice what it was infinite. I enjoyed both but this game needs some serious work with the bugs
@@TheBigJame_ Same I am a big fan of both franchises but I had more fun playing halo than i honestly have had playing PvP as a whole in years. BF beta was fun but it didnt bring me the same joy as halo did on top of the fact Halo was just in a way better state.
Thank You Skill Up. We can always count on you for not selling out! Bravo
This review totally nailed it, take my sub sir. They are just positioning this game for Specialist 'Operator' style in game purchases, but they don't want to have to create unique ones for each faction. I think it's going to be the first real 'pay to pay' because the new specialist traits are going to be an advantage over standard because unless yuou have that Specialist you can't unlock the trait (hope I'm wrong). Underneath there is a good game but there's not enough in there for longevity. I hope I'm wrong but it's just a Battlefield shell atm. One of the biggest mistakes EA/Dice missed was to not make Firestorm free to play in BFV, that would have pulled people in and probably sold the full game and it could have survived and evolved so much longer, also giving them more time to finish 2042 properly. EA seem to have missed the fact Warzone is free.
When they said 120+ players, you would assume that dice is doing it because the tech is now capable enough to handle it.
Apparently not
Just bad coding, il-2 1946 had 128 players back when it was 2008
the tech is capable, the game is just poorly optimized and has some of the worst net code ive seen in the past decade
Not a fan of “specialists”. Much of the game can be fixed with a delay but that by design is absolutely terrible, cannot stand specialists.
It would be more tolerable if they were somehow divided by sides, or at least differentiated visually. More similar to something like Siege. The way it works now will make playing Hardcore mode impossible, as people will just constantly kill friendlies by accident.
@@nezfromhki What are you talking about? I love getting killed by 20 grandmas, same one I'm playing.
then play BF Portal. end.
@@nezfromhki I think I heard somewhere that there won't be an official Hardcore mode. It'll be up to Portal to create the hardcore experience
Im hoping that the full release adds more of them to add more variety and potentially allow for more specialization amongst your squad.
Additionally there really needs to be a way to tell your teammates from enemies. That dot is useless and impossible to see. The specialists dont help that at all
This has to be one of your funniest videos. Great roasting, references, sarcasm, etc. You brought your A game. I can't wait for the release.
I've been on Apex since season 0 and man let me tell you I loved this beta so much... The only thing I wish it had more of is a fluent team communication system AKA the Apex Ping System. They NEED to integrate contextual ping exactly how Respawn did it so I can actually talk and give/take orders from squad. Most of the matches felt too solo and not enough team work. If they manage to tighten up the need for team work in the game its gonna be perfect.
Can we also talk about how weapons lack any sort of weight or impact. The LMG felt no different than an SMG just had a bigger magazine/box.
This was an Alpha test the real Beta test happens with the game launch. Even if this was a 6 month old build it would still be incredibly concerning.
Nah it’s defo a beta
@Christian Gormley he is saying that the game is going to be so broken at launch it will feel like a beta test
This is so wrong. Alpha means "testing with SELECTED and LIMITED set number of people"
Beta means "SELECTED but OPEN set numbet of people"
I am a QA myself for a software house, I can safely assure you that nothing releases ON BETA.
Bro its an old build. Its gonna be fixed at launch /s
@@aabenhus Thats what they said for BFV too and well, we all know in what shape it came out, just as broken as the "BETA".
even if the build we played was 6 month old, it's still to broken to be fixed in 6 more month, took DICE 2 Years to fix BF4, BFV never got fixed, it's still broken to this day.
Nice, thorough review. Thanks.
I was not even able to get past the start screen the entire beta.
Lmao at “This isn’t like a few JIRA points and we’re done”. This guy codes.
Thought the same, now that's some very specific joke
Although when playing the Beta i was actually thinking about how their ticket interface was going to explode
That’s exactly what I was thinking haha, side note fuck JIRA
ya its more like an epic that gonna take 8 to 10 sprints to fix lol
theres going to be so many Epics.
lol, but this is coming from a guy that just stated in his Far Cry 6 review that FidelityFX Super Resolution is AI upscaling, Just like DLSS, which should be a meme that gets him laughed out of the room
2042 is gonna be the year it's fully patched and polished
Battlefield 2077.
That doesn't fix the core design flaws. It highlights them. Game will suck ass.
NIce vid skillup, I've played bf for almost 20 years now competitively and casually, you nailed it.
With regards to the UFO's, The engine does "frequency Bubbles' and has since bf4, there are high tick rate bubbles around you and the other players, the further they are from you the lower the tickrate, the vehicles doing the weird stuff is down to "network smoothing" being off, by a lot and low tickrate to save on server load nad network capacity.
one thing you didnt touch on was the terribly dumbed down vehicle handling, tanks are so slow they are forced to hang way back out of the action and shell from afar, heli's have no weight or inertia and jets float like balloons. Sad thing is the vehicles have been very poor and overlooked since BF1 so here's hoping they get full rework to be more in line with BF2, 3 and 4.
You shouldn’t be able to change your stuff mid game, you select a 4-8x sight so close range you are hampered and disabled, so that the sight has a downside. Now, just switch it out.
Dice does this every release. Remove practically everything that made the last game great in the quest to reinvent the wheel.
Also trying to be more like COD because that yielded good returns on investment right. Why do I have a feeling these changes come from schmucks with MSc Business degrees and investors who have absolutely zero clue what the community and real Battlefield fans want, because their market researchers are as clueless as they are and can only find casual console players to build their reports on. Disgraceful.
They are completely out of touch with what the community wants. They are just focused to making money for their investors. And chasing CoD trends to bring in new players. Such a flipping shame
Well, everything from the games before last. I’m entirely okay with everything from BFV getting scrapped, it didn’t bring anything worth keeping. Most of the “innovative” movement was from BF1 anyways or was abused for camping (as the devs said themselves about backwards prone).
They took the critisism from Battlefield 1 and V and just further developed Battlefield 4 with mechanics that made shooters successful the last couple of years. It's a consequence from constant bashing and hating - and as soon as a new entry arrives suddenly everyone says "Well, it wasn't _that_ bad. You should've kept with the direction, even though we've been complaining constantly".
@@asheleydavies people have been saying literally this same exact thing for over 10 years. DICE never makes a BF game for "BF veterans". They are trying to market to a large audience and people who are interested in COD. It obvious why they do it too. Because that's what will make them the most money.
This is the most clear and concise explaination of the problems. You seem very unbiased and just want a qualify game. Well done. Dice needs to pay massive attention to this video
The specialist voice overs reminds me of "the hell yeah dude" from Wolfenstein.
That bunnyhopping looks identical nearly to Titanfall bhopping
"Beta" is just a way of having a demo without having to accept responsibility for any of the bugs.
It's been like this since the Halo 3 beta and fans are still using the "IT'S JUST A BETA!!!" excuse 14 years later.
Edit: And Bungie actually fixed issues from the Halo 3 beta, because they had 4 months to do so.
Beta has become a buzz/hype word to make everyone feel special and like they're getting exclusive early behind the scenes look
Remember the BF4 launch outrage? this looks exactly the same, if not worse.
Yup! Beta is another word Demo!
@@giladriel Yeah and I am not buying a game to wait for over a year to be playable so screw that...
Better games out there.
No hate, but halo 3 isn't a very good example. That game turned out to be arguably the best installment in that franchise. And battlefield is no stranger to rough betas at least dating back bf3. Saying its just a beta, for Battlefield anyways, usually is the case. Yes bf3 and 4 did have rough launchs but they were fixed relatively quickly. I'm just saying it can be a valid excuse.
Didn't even play the beta but from what I've heard about the gadget system, I'm preparing to see entire lobbies of grapple-hook guy
Watching Jackfrags and TheBrokenMachine streams, and that is all I ever saw. Jack tried using the drone a few times, but it was awful.
@@LoCoAde87 yeah, drone was ass
Gonna be Battlefield Attack on titans XD
I think they're going to make adjustments to incentivize medics and support characters. Also change the animation of revives and squad call outs are going to make a squad plate much more intuitive. Easy adjustments can make this game a spectacular installment for Battlefield.
Never used it, Tbh i prefer the medic
finally getting the drone up and out without getting spotted, only to find via your drone that your flippin parachate is still open...Priceless!
That airplane teleportation I thought it I was lagging ever time it was happening I am glad it wasn't only me.
The game needs another delay despite me having fun with it
I respect that opinion. It’s respectable for you to admit that fun ≠ good quality.
Thank you.
@@ALDOESAGOOD my issues are with the specialist system. Why not have a limit on them and have generic classes that can be customized cosmetically? Would that work?
@@xSSxwarlord can u explain the specialist system?
I couldn’t even have fun with it….like at all. Every game was just a clusterfuck of issues I couldn’t see past.
@@Gavlar040378 I can understand that somewhat
I’m glad someone finally mentioned the map issue, I’ve seen no one mention. How is there not an option to pull up a map in the middle of the game? For maps that are bigger than past titles how am I supposed to know where to go?
Pretty sure there will be a map in full version, only cause my rgb logitech keyboard M letter was red 😂
especially, for an FPS known to have huge game spaces....now having even large sandboxes, to not have a map? That's like doubly impossible to navigate!
@@BugbugAdventures that's the dumbest part see, in the options menu, it very clearly says you can open the map with M, but it's not possible to do it. Same with variable sights. Some scopes come with variable sights. The game clearly says in the attachment menu that some sights you can toggle between 1X to whatever other magnification option is there... but there's not keybinding for it.
They did say that the map was disabled for the beta. Probably something about it was nonfunctional for that build.
there is a keybind and its a bug & known issue. chill
It’s nice to see you doing well after The Division days.
Every criticism I had Skill up nailed better then I ever could. Liked and subscribed.
2 hours with the beta made me go back and play BF4 for the rest of the weekend
I played two matches of the beta and went back to Cold War
Man the way Andrew Wilson tries to squeeze every cent out of my pocket is so hot. He's definitely the best representation of Australian values.
He is basically the villain Sorento from Ready Player One.
Try being the capitalist country in the world.
12:50 Where you shoot at the sniper and some how miss was because the trees have a really large hit box on them for some reason. Also the leaves on a lot of trees would stop projectiles, very annoying to deal with.
At 12:49 you hit the invisible hitbox that extends from the tree, it was an absurd issue in the Beta as well.
"Only battlefield moments." I have heard the phrase multiple times, from multiple content creators. It reminds me of Brawndo, it has what plants crave.
"only in battlefield moments" is a thing they've been saying in the BF community for ages. And it's largely true. I play both COD and BF and during BF3 and 4 I found BF to be a better COD than COD
BF has his moments, but others game too. Has you been in a tanks traffic jam? you can in Planetside 2.
It's probably a tag line on their press bundles 🙄
Some shills are better than others, but they feel like media people. All saying the same exact buzzwords like they have a list to read off for their payment. Trash game, trash company. It’s gonna be great watching the next EA flop
@@equious8413 that tag line came from the community which was then picked up by Marketing.
Never preorder, never buy day 1, and never purchase microtransactions.
Agree 100%
@@jarigustafsson7620 Made these rules after the utter disappointment that was Mass Effect 3 and I haven't regretted them.
Besides a few issues on my PS5 I didn't have any issues major visual, a lot of frame drops of flickering or issues you were showing honestly. My main gripe was telling friend from for, then moving away from classes, some UI issues. Destruction has been scaled down since BF3 only things like houses or warehouses have destruction.
This was such a good laugh mate, thank you!
Messages on the top of the screen look like error messages imo. Never knew a pop-up would give me PTSD
the giant blue and red banner when an enemy captures a point looks fuckin disgusting and it disturbs ur peripheral vision severly
@@Lord_ofcinder It looks like something you'd see when your wifi got disconnected mid game XD
I have seen almost every single bug you talked about with only like 3 hours of playtime on the beta
same but for me it was 71 minutes exactly because I uninstalled after the 3rd match after realizing I've only gotten maybe 3 kills the entire time and I was mostly shooting at allies, biggest one I noticed at first like he mentioned a few times was no matter what graphical setting I was on nothing seemed to change.
It's a old build, we aren't even playing the current garbage. The network issues alone will make the game shit for a year. The gameplay issues won't even begin to be solved. The foundation is incorrect, the lack of classes has ruined this for me.
@@elimgarak1127 yeah it really doesn't even feel like battlefield also the map in the beta apparently was only a medium sized map which is insane because I legit had moments were I didn't run into a enemy for 10 minutes, this new battlefield feels way overly dependent on vehicles for getting across terrain and running into enemies which is why everyone is probably allowed to carry a AA rocket, or ground based RPG now.
Oh did you try being a gunner in a tank? That one is pretty obvious... That was just nuts.
@@elimgarak1127 Yea... You also get that with "Minimum viable servers" I miss the days of community hosted servers... There didn't used to be lag like you've seen in modern battlefield (remember low tick rates and some lag even in BF3). People used to care and put good resources into these servers for their communities :/ I'm very curious to see whatever AWS EC2 or whatever service specs they use for each instance lol
i was on the fence but after this i made up my mind even though i want a new Battlefield but going to wait a year and then check it out
Best video so far. Bf needs more time. I agree 100% with you and just subscribed.
I'm just shocked at how the character model holds the Glock. Did NONE of the devs just google how a person even holds a gun?
Never associate doing a web search with google. Don't google anything. Don't use any google product (except YT).
Or research the advent of a double action revolver.
@@steveos5112 You cant try boycott google but still use youtube. Either live up to your morals or drop them completely.
@@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother Morals? Chill bro. Like I said, I don’t use google products and/or services google search, gmail, earth, Instagram what’s up app., analytics, on and on. Except YT., as I brings value to me. This all or none, black or white attitude has nothing to do with morals. I was using YT way before google took it over.
@@steveos5112 "i dont use google products except the ones that i find value in" basically..
The design decisions that went into this game, the operators, the color palette, the quick swap attachment features, holy shit, it's all so fucking bad.
The quick swap attachments is an awesome choice, you spend less time in menus and more time playing the actual game.
And I don’t see any issue with the colour palette, those were two of the better things of the Beta.
@@TheKillerham5ter The quick swap is meta now even ww3 use it, i wish it was a lil darker like CoD MW amd more trees here and there its just suck getting beam by snipers in open area the grass is quite high too it make concealment like ghili suit look like a joke the weapons is imba at its best just like ww3 they both need to think how to make a shooting experience still balance while fun at the same time
There are no meaning full choices now. You can combine different class attributes and configure your weapon during play.
To me this takes out so much of the essence of battlefield as very few people will get the defibs over recoiless.
@@Paul0000 ‘Essence of battlefield’? Nothing is worse than equipping attachments to a weapon and then finding out that you actually don’t like those and the only way to change them is to respawn and go into a menu. Completely breaks the gameplay loop and takes you out of it.
It’s tedious, whereas with the attachments being able to be changed on the fly you don’t take any loss. I see no benefits to having to take a loss to change the stuff on your weapons.
@@TheKillerham5ter I get that that's annoying; to me though I find it great to go for let's say a mid rang AR and end up looking for an SMG cause I got lost and ended up in a building.
Though that's not the biggest annoyance; the biggest is that few people will have repair torches or defibs whilst before you had to have a torch if you wanted to use an SMG. (or you could grap a PDW ofcourse ;) )
Really gutted my hopes for this, I played so much 2142 that I was massively stocked for a revisit to that version. I hope you are wrong but it wouldn't surprise me given gaming now days.