Marshall JCM800 vs JCM2000 Comparison
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Forget the Marshalls, that's one hell of a strong desk!
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Haha!!!
I was thinking the same thing. Like. Why didn't he just leave the heads in a pickup bed to keep them mobile
Купил жцм900 комбо. Только с грелкой звучит как зверь )
Лампу можно раскачивать как угодно)
Jcm 800 plus Gibson Les Paul Special plus p90’s yum..
Lowtech14 nice taste man I have a Gibson Les Paul Junior with a single Dogear P-90 on the way and I’m looking at Marshall heads because I want a stack.
P90? Are you playing Buddy Holly? Get some humbuckers man
MrRforbus apparently u don’t know the power and potential P-90s have on rock music.
I’m a hardcore punk band and I use P-90s
whats the red cord connecting the two heads for??
A few points you,ve overlooked.Valve type is absolutely critical for obtaining the sound preference you are looking for,more important in my opinion than the model Marshall.I have many Marshalls and I play all styles.My favourite is my own build version of the JTM45 running solid state rectification as I don't like sag,I prefer dynamic,but thats up to the player.
For the EL34 output valves = Siemens or Mullard for JTM,JMP,and all the others except JTM30 which oddly sound better with modern Russian brands.Sovtec sound harsh in just about any Marshall,If you like the sound of finger nails on a chalk board then they are for you,personally I like creamy smooth for Jazz,Rock or Metal as it is far less fatiguing to the listener.Chinese sound like China..ah so.They also are fragile and do not output as much power or glow red on the plates or destroy your out put transformer.
For loud nothing beats my JMP 100watt super Bass,with huge transformers and great bottom end that the JCM 2000 never had (transformers are to small for 7 and 8 stringers or C tuning popular for Metal).JMP plexi is my favourite,you just use your favourite pedals to get the sound you desire from ultra clean to extremely overdriven with a couple of overdrive pedals.You just can't get a good clean sound with a JCM 800 and the filament rectification fails often,they are great for rock but not reliable unless you cold bias,which makes them sound like a limp d..k!.JCM 2000,great for frying bacon and eggs or your backside in a cold rehearsal room, but ran my 74JMP 100watter on stage at a gig and compared the two (JCM2000) and the JCM was way softer and sounded like s..it!.
I build and service amps and all the major makes are using small transformers,crappy valves and unreliable circuit boards that overheat due to players trying to get volume and frying the things.
So find an old JMP, spend a heap on it get some Mullard or Siemen EL34's, yes the real thin expensive ones fron the 60's and 70's NOS and some Mullard Blackburn's from the 60's.It's cost you around $4000 or more just for the amp but will last and last.
If you want a shitty modern Marshall then you are already tone deaf and should go right ahead because you'll never sound good anyway.
And to those who disagree obviously have not played with Vai,members of Van Halen or Satriani's band...I HAVE,
because they liked my tone.....just my two bob's worth!
Thanks for the advice, comparing tube types is something I really want to get around to testing in a video series. This particular video was more to demonstrate that an amp that often gets labelled as a "shitty modern Marshall" compares quite well to what a lot of people regard as THE Marshall model. IMO sounding good is more about how you play than what you play with, I'm sure the muso's you played with probably would have still enjoyed playing with you regardless of what you played ;)
The do, but the older jmp have bigger transformers and have bottom end punch that folk do notice,and its better to get a good amp that will last a life time than waste money.blackstar is a way better amp for not a lot of cash with BIG transformers that will wipe the floor with the same amount of money compared to modern Marshalls.and lets face it you make it sound better than the average player because of your good playing as I do.
Personally I want my travelling amps to work when I unload them off the jet, modern terribly built modern Marshalls with heaps of pretty knobs look good,but what do ACDC use for example?...yes the plexi JMP Jtm45 and they are the biggest,I also played with members of their band and they'll tell you trhe same thing,ask angus and see what he says?
What's all this crackle in the sound?
I have aJCM 2000 DSL and I freakin love it. I honestly think that in the future they will be soughted after like the JCM800 is today.
i have to agree with that on the modern DSL series, there’s something special with these amps
my jcm 2000 kills . it's a monster and gets great vintage tone as well. imo it's the best amp they ever made. it's got a great saturation that is just Marshall all the way.
What year is it?
@@SuperJiggawhat 1999
I certainly hope not. Then the prices will go up. LOL
Does anyone hear a crackly noise or something as the 2000 is being played? My ears might be fried from using 100 watt Marshalls all these years.
It's definitely not an amp artefact unless that particular amp is fried, but I doubt it because it sounds like digital clipping.
ya, same with 900 series. plastic brittle high end phony tone with cheap clipping. Awful stuff
I hear it too, definitely a clipping of some sort. My 2000 is now doing the ground cracking/popping.
My JCM 2000 does the same crackling/popping. I’ve done quite a bit of research on this... it’s a problem called runaway biasing. Apparently, this is a flaw with the main circuit board being wired incorrectly or some circuit boards were defective. The main issue is that too much power is allowed to flow through the circuits instead of being properly suppressed by the resistors. It can cause overheating and damage to various transistors and even the pre amp and power amp valves. I’ve blown many power valves over the years thinking I was misusing my amp. It sounds great when you have fresh properly matched valves but over time the runaway biasing damages the valves, dramatically reducing their lifespan.
Marshall did correct the problem and you can purchase a corrected circuit board and have a technician install it. Overall, it’s cheaper than buying a new amp. I’m looking into doing this now that I know what the issues is. I have a JCM 900 as back up until I can get this done. I recognized the crackling in the video immediately, as this is how the problem starts out but it eventually gets nasty and renders your amp next to unusable.
@@julianortiz4151 just got my 2000 back from the shop a month ago for runaway bias
I feel like a used JCM 2000 dual super lead might be one of the best deals eva for a versatile, workin man rock/metal amp..
Basicaly everything sounds better with Greenbacks :D
I agree with this statement :)
Definitely. Much bigger difference than between the amps
g12-80!!
idk, I think I preferred the V30s.
I concur!
JCM800 +Boss SD-1 = killer tone.
Yeah man I have been using my ds1 since the late 80swith a boss eq.awsomeness
@@darenwobensmith4868 The SD-1 Super Over Drive is not a DS-1 Distortion.
@@Nightingale1887 I'm pretty sure he meant to type DSL not ds1
Probably an auto correct error. He also said he used his dsl with a boss EQ which can have the same effect as an overdrive when put before the amp like a TS9 or an SD-1. I personally prefer eq in the loop with a TS9 up front. I build my own pedals and nothing is same from my mods. With that said I've never owned an SD1. But since the TS9 is so similar I wonder if the sd1 would get much use. I'll probably build an SD1 on Vero soon cause I have an extra enclosure that would work well for an SD1.
Agreed. The SD-1may be a humble little dirt box but it just seems made for the JCM800. Makes the amp absolutely rage.
@@michaelinglis8516 But he said he used since late 80's..i don't know when DSL line was launched...but what i said in the first post is JCM800 with Boss SD-1 Super Overdrive pedal as a boost in front of the amp....and that is killer. Some people have using the TS9 , that is a good option too. Eq pedal in the loop i never used , just effects pedals...Eq in the loop is good ?
Ok I’m stupid. I just realized you’re the guitarist for Rag doll. Goddamn great band. I’ve been listening to you guys for a while and never put the two together. Cheers.
Nice! the JCM800 is a one trick pony, but man.. what a trick it is!
Very similar to the Soldano stuff in that regard. When you need that one sound, it's the best at what it does.
I wouldn't call it a one trick pony. You can get an ok clean out of it and with a couple of different boost pedals and an EQ and you can do quite a bit.
Roll off the volume on your guitar. Learn dynamics and nothing stays one trick
I think they have quite a few tricks. The 2203/4 is essentially a JMP circuit so you really have zeppelin/ ACDC up through slayer and punk. It’s got that jimmy clean in it too I think. The Dolomite record by Scott Henderson is just an old 2203
Exactly! People that call them a one trick are just wrong. You can literally nail 25 years of several genres with a 2203+ a couple pedals.
Liking the video but must day that Vivian Campbell was doing the SD1 into a JCM800 waayyy before Zakk. Pretty much recorded the entire Holy Diver with a Les Paul, SD1 and an 800.
Didn't realise that was an sd1 too, legendary tone.
Leon Todd. Yeah saw an interview where he said he only used that one guitar, pedal and amp for the album. Awesome sound from an awesome player.
Yeah, but the tone Zakk got with his modded 2203 on his first two Ozzy records is like the holy grail of tone for me!
@@christophergregory1205 A real key to Zakk's tone is he used 2 4x12's loaded with EVM 12L 200 watt speakers split in stereo with a chorus pedal. But don't go crazy with the chorus or it will sounds too processed.
@@danyeo I just saw a rig rundown with zakk and he said he never used chorus on the records he just double tracked.
Great video. The SD-1 is my favorite overdrive pedal to use for boosting.
Love my JCM2000 TSL 100.
I still have mine I bought new in 1999 . They are kick ass amps . As good as any Marshall . The thing that throws people off is that the bias slips faster on them. But once biased right boom it’s king
First time I have ever seen the word LOVE and 100 used together
Mine as well!
Techdeath Hippie What does bias slips mean? Just curious.
@@ronniethomas6335 it means the required voltage, that the tubes need to operate correctly, loses stability, and becomes uncontrolled, causing failure.
I have an early 2000’s JCM2000, running through a 1960Vintage with Greenbacks (yes, I swapped the speakers) and my buddy who’s played for 30 years and our local amp tech who services the touring bands’ gear both say it’s the best sounding Marshall they’ve played. Maybe I got lucky, maybe they’re just that good. I also have good tubes in it (Tung-sol and Svetlana) and it just rips with incredible warmth and overtones. Love love love that amp. Currently playing a 2014 Gibson Les Paul Custom and Charvel Pro Mod San Dimas. Give the 2000 a look. There are lemons out there buy some are absolute gems.
I'm yet to hear a bad one TBH (I also have two of the 100w heads kicking around here). It rules with greenbacks hey!
It's a great amp with the right speakers for sure!
I HAVE A JCM2000 AND SWITCHED OUT THE SPEAKERS TO THE REAL MADE IN ENGLAND GREEN BACKS. IT GOES FROM AC/DC TO METALLICA NO PROBLEM. WHEN WE PUT SHOWS ON IN CHICAGO, ALL THE BANDS PLAYING WOULD ASK US TO SULPLY 2 JCM200 50 WATTS FOR ALL THE SHOWS.
Marshall JCM 800 with 4x12 cab with Vintage 30’s and an Ibanez tube screamer to boost the distortion up a bit will sound killer
JCM800's are what made mid to late 80's metal guitar, metal guitar! I think everybody used 'em! lol Well, almost everybody.
It's the sound of an era.
Agreed! I just bought a old Boss SD-1 made in 1983..Been playing since the late 80's and never had one til now. Can't believe how it adds that natural 3d- sounding distortion to a tube amp. I'm using with a Laney GH50l and it sounds completely killer!
I have one, it has a few tricks, but the loud marshall one is indeed the best
@@andrewgarcia3136 2204 way too loud and no FX Loop was not good. Sold it and never looked back, have the 2000, just a different amp with way more gain on tap.
@@guitarexpert2245 the jcm2000 amps are a lot more usuable, I've actually been thinking about grabbing a used dsl50, or maybe even a dsl1 to use at home. They're good amps. The old jcm 800s have bigger iron, though. No comparison in terms of volume and punch, closer to an old hiwatt than most new Marshalls
The JCM800 2203 sounds particularly good through a 4x12 with G12-65's. They take a bit of the fizz out of the top end. The amp also sounds best with the master volume opened up a bit. Whole different sound.
Great review! I don't think the DSL gets enough credit as a mainstay and iconic amp. I always loved them, and the few I have played have been wonderful amps to work with. They have an awesome sonic range. I never understand why people (aka tone seekers) often overlook them.
Vintage Leon!
I am an amphead and loves researching amps and preamps - and your channel has been a godsend to me! Don't stop! :)
So many amps, so little time!
@@LeonTodd More and more please! :D
You can't beat the DSL, it gets close enough to the 800 for virtually any application if that's your thing. And can do ten million other things as well, and do them well.
It would have been nice to share the final settings on each amp. Plus, it would have made more sense to set the JCM800 and then match the DSL2000's tone, rather than continue to make adjustments to the JCM800's EQ, making it somewhat of a moving target.
I can tell the difference only by watching you switch between them. Shame you don't have a comparo of Lane GH vs. JCM800 vs. Laney AOR......
I'd love to track down an AOR. The 800 vs the GH; watch this space.
Shame I live in Socal I have 5 different versions of the Pro-Tube amps. Also, what about a Bassbreaker 45 vs JTM45 vs, 2246?
I'll do my best to track down a bassbreaker as I have the other two.
That would be a sick video...…….. ;)
Hello I think I found an AOR down under for sale if you are still interested? I contacted you on fb.
Jcm800 hands down.
I've had both. I loved my JCM2000. That was the winner for me.
Very confusing. I wish the captions had continued throughout the entire video. I lost which one was which after awhile. I could hear a little more compression on the 2000, but it was close and the guitar player played so many different things it became hard to tell. I guess I'd get the 2000 because he says it's more versatile.
That was the idea with the captions, I wanted to see if anyone could actually pick which amp was which so that I could demonstrate that they're closer than a lot of people would have you believe. Thanks for taking the time to check it out.
Great video, I really like more the JCM800 ... have one from the early eighties with the SIR39 Mod and sounds crazy, but yeah, it is insanely loud .... with the SD1 and a G12-75 loaded cab is the tone of an era. The JCM2000 is fine but for that high gain / versatility purpose I prefer the JVM. Marshall forever!
That 800 had a bit more bite but the smoothness of the 2000 is nice as well. I have an old Crate Stealth 50 that actually sounds a lot like that 800. Except with 2 channels.
Before anyone out there freaks out, that Crate Stealth line was designed by Lee Jackson who also designed some of the best Marshall amps. It's pretty much a Marshall with a Crate logo on it.
Yeah those Crate amps deserve a second chance
I second this about the Crate Stealth. I currently have a Stealth 100. Amazing amp
I have a JCM 800 and also a Lee Jackson XLS 1000. Just my opinion, but I love the Lee Jackson more and seem to be able to do a lot more with it.
I have a great little Crate Vintage Club amp. 20 watts with one 10" speaker. It's been my backup amp for years!
I played out of a Stealth for years..had the 50 with the 6v6 tubes if I remember right
Ive heard the only difference between the JCM800 and the JCM2000 was how they were marketed.
They are basically the same Amp! I think I am more in love with the Marshall "logo", than the sound.
I cant speak for the circuit but the insides share nothing. A classic 800 has that old school build quality that was meant to last. the 2000s have a lot of printed circuit boards and the tubes also sit on a circuit board and it they run mega hot.
The JCM 800 reminds me of the Diezel of Marshalls ;). I have a DSL 50 and love it, really think it is going to be a vintage piece soon, if it isn’t already. Also looking at the Kerry King JCM 800 to get that master volume ;). Wonder how different it would sound up against a 2203.
You rock dude, thanks for the video!! 🤘🏻
Thank you so much for posting this highly useful video. I used to own a JCM800 2x12 combo and had to get rid because, like you said, it's just way too loud and just sounds thin at the level of volume that many of us get to play. Our singer used to moan like hell if I took it anywhere near 2! I sold it and bought a TSL100 but haven't been able to dial in that sound I loved. So I've just bought a used DSL50 on eBay for £350 after watching your videos. Thanks again. P.s. TSL100 for sale ;)
just got a DSL100, because I wanted the more Modern distortion(for Ozzy and Pantera).....volume is WAY manageable....doesn't even get Loud till 4, then Really starts to crank!
The TSL is an odd bird that is for sure
Wow, no way I thought they'd be that close. I think I may actually prefer the smoother voice of the 2000. I didn't want to, but that's the way it goes. lol
I see you used York's v30's but whose Greenbacks did you use?
Awesome vid!
Some IR's of my Marshall TV I shot. Really stoked with how they turned out.
Really enjoyable sounds all round but I can't help wondering what an original 2203 vs reissue sounds like. And it would have been great to know which amp was playing after I alt-tabbed somewhere and lost track most of the time!
Both sound awesome.. 800 is warmer, 2000 is crunchier
Basically, the JCM 2000 DSL can do what JCM 800 does. (I have both myself). Not exactly, not 100%, but very very close. The DSL is much more versatile and cheaper.
I gotta agree with you there... I've got a JCM2000 , Orange OR100 and a Mesa Dual Rec all with matching cabs and with the right tweaking I can get all to sound the same. So much so that other guitarists can't pick the difference in a blind test...{When it's in a mix) Plus another of my friends has a JCM800....
I've also got a modded Jet City With a matching cab with Eminance speakers in it... Now that really sounds exactly like a JCM800...
Yes I have a problem ! LOL !
Gary Richrath, REO, Marshall JTM/JMP 50W, Les Paul/PAF to me is the signature Marshall tone. Early Rush. Styx. The 800 and the amps that followed are great too, more modern, Ratt. They sound incredible. 45lbs (the 800). Don't ever change, Leon.
I too play a 1974 JMP 50...I used to have one with the small emblem on the front and sold it and Oh I wish I had that back...
Jim CatManDude, super lively little amplifiers! The little amp that could! 😜
Awesome! I ended picking up an old 1998 DSL after watching your videos! Which channel do you have the DSL on? Looks like the red channel... is it Lead 1 or 2?
Lead 1. Green channel crunch is killer too!
Cool thanks!
That's AMAZING! I bought a JCM800 2205 and I haven't been able to come remotely close to the sound that you get out of that one, not even counting the boost with the SD-1. Great video!
Thanks so much for checking it out :)
He’s using a 2203 in the video.
Different circuit. 2205 uses diodes for distortion.
Great comparison! I have a JCM 2000 DSL 100w and love it!
Killer amps
My 02 JCM 2000 TSL 60 / 4x12 still sounds new after almost 20 years. One suggestion, replace the power tubes with the -C- Svetlana winged C power tubes it came with. Nothing else comes close.
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The thing with the JCM2000 is that it can also do Plexi if you want it to. Can the JCM800 do Plexi? No.
That's a good point. I'll have to do a DSL vs Plexi comparison next.
put it in the hand of Johan Segeborn - he'll make EVERYTHING sound like a plexi
Then don't get 1..simple
The 800 can do Plexi, you simply plug into the low input jack and turn the master to 10 and the use pregain as your loudness like on a Plexi
Mine does) Long story, but it really does.
"you can kinda get a clean sound"......crunchy as kitty litter. LOL.
I will really like to see a comparison with JCM900. I love my 900, a great amp, but always wondered how far the A channel is far from the older 800 brother.
I also loved my 900. I do feel like people get hung up on micro differences. I actually wish someone would just assign me gear. Then I’d just spend my time making music with whatever I’ve got.
The 900 is a great amp. The band Jet both used JCM 900s. Any time people slag on the 900, I always point them towards that tone.
Nothing sounds more raw and powerful than a Les Paul straight into a JCM800.
Love the JCM2000 also!
there is a jcm800 build into the jcm2000. The best Thing Marshall did in the 90th
Id like Marshall half stack. Problem is, im not a lead guitarist, only jam thrash & death rhythm. Feel like i don't rate. Lol
So you dont Need a 2nd chanell. Easy going for Shows. No stress at all. I´m envious. Since 15 jears i´m searching for the perfect rig and it will never come. But Marshalls will be the base for it!
I'll ever get rid of my DSL 50
You're a clever man :D
Alejandro Marinetti dude I almost got rid of my dsl 100 recently. Glad I came to my senses haha. I’ve had it for over a decade. Love the sound! Modded by Bogner as well, not exactly sure what they did but I know there’s an extra transformer in there.
Thanks for making this video. I got a DSL for like 700 USD where the 800s are at 2k+. I'm happy.
I had a JCM800 for years. I would take the 2000 over the 800. You can easily get the classic 800 and hot rodded 800 tones out of the 2000. The 2000 is much more versatile
Having a JCM 2000 DSL 100 and Peavey 6505+,its hard to say but my Marshall actually sounds better dialed in. Especially with a TS9. It just has thaf evil mid range roar that the Peavey doesn't quite have. The Peavey may have slightly more chug but the Marshall has an insane amount too. Its my favorite amo whem dialed in correctly. It beats the Peavey by a hait
How can I know when you're playing the 800 and when you're playing the JCM2000?
I did the same thing at a Guitar Center years ago and reached the same conclusion. They sound very similar but not exactly the same. Man I'd like to hear you do a review on the JVM 410.
you turned me from a recto freak into a marshall junky! I use a Vintage/Modern2266 with a fortin grind pedal. that with a mesa 2X12 V30 cab is just EVIL! I'm selling my Rev.G to buy a jcm 800
I'd love to try a grind, I take you're loving it?
I've had a dsl for 15 years and I love it!
We were in the studio last month and we had an original jcm800 and my dsl100. Played the same riff on both. Considering that the jcm800 has God-like status and the 2000 is often considered the "meh" amp, they're pretty dam close!
Except, an original 800 (or a reissue) is gonna cost about £1000+ when you can get a 2000 for less than £400!
Pretty similar to my experience, once I figured out the DSL could do the 800 thing and more I stuck with it.
Love my JCM2000’s. That 800 is the shit tho!!!
I mix my jcm 2000 with my vintage modern. I set up the 2000 with lots of mids, then the vm with highs and l Iows together they sound huge. You should try that leon!! Shout form Albuquerque new Mexico the nuke city love your channel btw
You compare 2 amps using stupid pedal.
If you want to show something then use only the amps.
Otherwise, you did not show anything......
Why don't you try out the 2205 more? That's THE JCM800 amp everybody had in the 80s...the 2203 is a continued JMP and the sound of the 70s...yes I had both :)
Throw a Fortin Hexdrive through that JCM 800 and you'll never care to play another amp again.
JCM800 is more tight but you can grab +4 JCM 2000 for the price of 1 JCM 800. Just token a mint DSL 100 for 300$ and it sound awesomeeeeee.
After Laney VH100R, some Marshall heads feel like feathers. Oh well, nobody should have any business making an amp head weigh 30 kg.
The JCM800 with the V30's was... unpleasant.
Please can you tell me the difference between Marshall JCM 900 100w model 4100 dual gain and reverb amp head. And your Jcm 800 or 900 thank you
My favorite setup with the JCM800 was the give and take" setup i call it. Jcm800 cabs Gt12-75s . Also ran a Bogner bottom for a few yrs. V30S AND G12-75S.
Sound dispersement. Nice big room or iso booth for recording.
1981 JCM800.
4 SIEMENS NOS EL34 medium size quad power tubes.
Ran old mullard 12ax7 in V1 and a pair of Sylvania military grade 12ax7s in 2 and 3 slots.
My BOSS OD 1 was another distinct tone shaper for the end result.
I used it as a clean boost most of the time. Again your taste in music.
. My 72 Les Paul Custom. Used WCR pups med. Output. 7.4 7.6...
Gain between 6. to 8.
Volume minimum 4+. 6
Mid 5.1 to 6.1
Treble 3.1 to 4.0
Bass 7-8.
Your taste in the end. very pedal friendly amp. JCM800. 300 yr old wood from the Paul. So on. Yea ran that setupnfrom thev80s on up. Used a GP10000 Metaltronix in the front door and a quadraverb for a bit.
thats some super secret info your givin up.. Good stuff here if anyone is noticing.. who is this masked man?
I had an 800 it wasn't the greatest and I traded it in for a Peavey VTM 60 head they both were good just preferred the VTM
The crackle noise was annoying but damn the jcm 2000 sounds killer. I preferred it over the 800. The greenbacks were also better than the v30. I’ll never understand why v30s are the “standard” speaker.
You see the dsl still in so many backlines. It looks the part and sounds it and doesn't cost thousands.
Can't stand virtual cabinets!
Omfg FINALLY! I’ve been asking Johan Segeborn to do this for ages!!
What were your thoughts on the comparison?
Don't be mistaken, I love your videos and ideas including this one. A few things that I think could have been better:
1) Indicate using titles which amp is being played
2) Zoom in closer on the amp settings to see what is being compensated in terms of tone to match the sound
3) Keep it simple - no boost pedals, same signal path, just A/B the amps because that's what we're here for.
And just personally, I'm still getting used to IR's with real amps, I don't think they capture the essence of the amps like a cab does. Thanks LT, keep doing what you do.
Oh, and I was very satisfied with the result of the actual sound comparison. The JCM2000 I believe was modeled to emulate the JCM800 2203, it says so in the manual. It does way more than the older amp, so I am glad that it can nail the 800 tone with higher gain and cleaner options as well.
Ameer Saban I think it's time I setup a second camera just for the knobs, great suggestions!
Lay it down! \m/
Attenuators are our friends. Hell I even have a weber mini mass on my PRS mt15, a rivera rock crusher I use on several amps.
You gotta move that mike slightly. I’m missing out on those fat bass tones! I know they’re there!
Why wasn't the 900 in on the fight.
I don't understand why you are connecting both inputs with the same red cable?
How much should I pay for a used one? I see a lot of ppl saying not to pay more than $600 but I cant find one for less than $700 if at all.
The do more or less have the same character, the 2203 just has "more" The 2203 has more bite, while the DSL has more "hair" on that gain. More fizz. The 2203 is just a better sounding amp overall. There's a reason why they always go for more money.
I love my jcm 2000 but its a tsl. And the third channel fries
Could you please do me a wonderful favor an see if the length an width of the chassis is the same?
Bias your power tubes and cut the bright cap, then it will sound better.
Hey dude! My band is thinking of buying a JCM 2000 DSL 50. We heard that they often need repairs. Can you lend any advice or reasoning for this, like what kind of repairs are typically needed, and how costly? And what's the advantage of going with the DSL 100 vs 50? Any help you can give would be great. Love your channel!
My DSL 50 head has been going strong since I bought it new in 1998. Only ever needed one repair, a loose impedance selector switch last autumn.
I’ve had a dsl 50, a 2203 from late 80’s and now i own a 2204 from 1982 with the vertical input. Man. She kills everything. Pull the master up and you’ll have beautiful clean tones. Thanks for the vid! Marshalls are one trick but it’s the best trick you’ll ever see.
If you want real Marshall sound buy a plexi or an old 800 imho. Rock out! (Probably wear plugs or put that attenuator in between)😉
Thanks for your vids I just bought a DSL 50 and I’m so excited thanks to your vids : )
Would be intressting for people like me to hear the sound with a strat.
but would you metal with a jcm 2k? im about ready to get a megalith based on your vid of it
No the same tonestack thats not it. DSL has different distortion stages that colours the sound
Horrible tone and it has nothing to do with the amps if you know how to dial them in"properly".
What amp tubes does the jcm 2000 use? Thank You
Amd Angus used to blow them up all the time haha
Could you please do a Comparison between Marshal Vintage Modern and Marshall Origin
Damn, I dig the JCM 800 boosted with the SD-1! What a great tone!
Classic stuff
It's hard but I like to hear a guitar straight into the amp...maybe an overdrive to pop on and off but no fractals or any help from mixers or computers I just want to hear the amp with as much drive as it will do...When I record I put it in a room and everything goes to eleven...
Isn't a DSL a modded JCM 900?
ahhhh... some one under 50 who loves rock and roll and can play the shit out of it...thank you! :)
Have the 2000 wouldn’t trade it love it!!! 800 rocks! SD1 pedal zakk attack!
1:16 man, tab that shit out! That's a badASS lick!
The second benefit of a dsl is they can be found dirt cheap.
Sounds like the crackle is bad tube..
Deary me! I now realize what I've been doing wrong with my jcm800: i play the mv on 2! Time to get an attenuator. Thank you father leon!
Then be sure to try a few good ones. Attenuators can be real assholes
@@peacelovekillemall hahaha mines definantly an asshole