I mean 1 person died who wouldn’t know what was going to happen, the rest were just dumb and ran away during red light knowing people gon get shot if u move
Also when he was telling everyone to stop it because it was scaring him, that’s when the workers decided to come in and end it. Because they know he’s boss.
@@rejecthumanityreturntocrab6521 if he were to lose the guards would just shoot the other people there,miss out on 5 players sure,but you save the life of the boss
I honestly wished the old man has his own perspective towards the end of the series. I would love to know his life story. But no matter what, Il Nam was one of my favorite characters in the show, besides Ali.
@@averagetboihater8357 they got into a van, woke up in an unfamiliar room with 455 other people, there were guards with masks on, and you’re telling me none of them would ask what they mean by “eliminate”? I’m sorry, you deserve anything that happens to you at that point.
@@averagetboihater8357 nobody asked. Even when they are given the contracts and the staff told them they will answer questions, they all ask stupid questions. Only the girl asked something useful.
the way i cried so hard when he let gihun win the marble-game and when he got shot i balled my eyes out because i have this soft spot in my heart for elder people 😭 his smile was so cute too, i just cant bring myself to hate him even if hes evil,,
SAMEEE AND I FEEL SO BAD WHEN THE PLAYERS ATTACKED EACH OTHER "please no I'm- I'm so scared" I FELT SO BAD and the one when he was looking for his house 😭
Bruh he did not die…. Guys lemme tell u what happened they went off camera and shot in the air when the camera went off when he got “shot” his body wasn’t there and they revealed he took off the bunny hat and revealed it was him…did y’all finish squid game?
No, he didn’t do tug of war to save his own life he did it to have fun. If you look closely when they’re all laying down after they win, you can see he has no locks
@@catsoka6759 no, the people of the squid game wouldn’t care if it hurt his arms, everyone is treated equally. He is the one who is leading squid game so if they lost he wouldn’t die
@@olive6534 he set up a game , true . Never forced anyone to join though. Maybe the first game was unfair to people but people chose to continue even after coming to know what the game really was. He's a grey charachter.
@@MichaelScott69 what I don't like, is that the rules state you can't leave when you joun, THATS force. And because of that rule, I don't know how the police can do anything. Its technically legal now, it even says you MUST participate in the game or you're eleminated.
For the tug of war part that you talked about, he actually just did it for his team. His pad was actually unlocked, so he could’ve just gotten out whenever he wanted to. But he decided to save his team anyways.
@@nananakeson well that prooves he wasn't fighting for his life back then... Of you look closely during the scene where they all lie exhausted, they all have padlocks on the shackles that hold them to the rope, while he doesn't
@@WikterRor2807 as I said in my comment "he could leave but why?" If he leaves he would've blew his cover he didn't had padlocks in case they lost but that doesn't mean he shouldn't play
I literally cried when he gave that marble back. I think the whole game would be justifiable if they had told the first lot that, by elimination they mean death. But the rest, the game was actually a lot more fair and equal and on basis of probability. BUT there were certain advantages that some players had which wasn't equalised.
Yea well equality doesn't mean equity... People have advantages they make use of... The crazy bitch would go to bed with the strongest man, the strongest man... Well is the Strongest... Etc
I honestly don't hate the old man, I really don't. I understand why many people hate him because he's the mastermind, but yeah, he is fair! He gave the players a choice to join the game or not. Even when they know they could die, they still chose to join back! Because of MONEY. The old man also didn't blame anyone for hating him, he knew what he did is wrong. And he accepted the consequences. I honestly think the old man doesn't deserve all the hate, he's one of my favourite characters! (I think I started a war in the comments 💀 please don't attack me it's my opinion 🗿)
@@snaildude268 they were told after, of course I agree with you that it's unfair for the people in the first game. But of course, the people who survived knew they would die. Of course they left the game, but only to get back in again. As you can see, they know they have a big chance to die! Still, they choose to go back. Being Selfish is what most people have, it's not evil. Of course, I don't think the old man is fully good.
He actually was just trying to help in tug of war because his chain wasn’t locked on his hand like the rest of them and wouldn’t have died if they lost!
He gave everyone a chance to “choose” whether or not to leave but let’s remember that they purposely handpicked the most desperate players they could find, pretty much guaranteeing they would come back and he would have a show to watch. There’s a reason why they didn’t choose people who were financially stable, because they wouldn’t have a reason to stay. He didn’t care about giving people a choice or helping them get some money. He just wanted an entertaining show and knew these players would do anything for the cash, which shows how insane he is. He also kept tabs on Gihun and the players who never returned, which means even the ones who “survived” could still be in danger. Let’s not forget that the first 255 people didn’t have a choice, as they didn’t know the full extent of what an elimination was. He set up an elaborate game to watch humans murder other humans for “fun”. I don’t understand how anyone could like him or think he was a logical, sane person.
@@wltaloof3747 So I guess knocking someone out and driving them to a strange island doesn’t count as kidnapping?😂 they agreed to play games, not to get stowed away to some strange island and potentially die if they get eliminated.
@@Lyssa3Lynn did they not choose to enter the vehicle by themselves? If u were not told the place where thr even is being held, u would consider it to be dangerous no? Its because they all massive amounts of debt they hv to pay and they got greedy because of the man in the train station.
@@Lyssa3Lynn wat they agreed was all stated in the contract. Even when they were "kidnapped", they were still given a chance whether they want to sign the contract or leave.
When he gave the strat to win tug of war he actually wasn’t chained to the rope so therefore he did it to save THEM Edit: lmao I thought no one would see this and I’m not arguing if he is “good or bad”
@@Alice-sw3rp exactly and he wanted to play the game so if he did get caught he wouldn't be able to play and the players would most likely try to kill him
In tug of war everyone else were locked to the rope, he wasn’t. So even if they would have lost he had a way out. He had a way to get out in every game.
So the one in the marbles one was basically his off-camera escape plan. I’m wondering what he would have done on the glass bridge. My assumption is that he would most definitely go for #16 at that point; so that when everyone is eliminated to that point. He will be left alone.
@@drewdrew7374 he created the concepts of the game as his last wish sure he's a VIP but he did not make squid game he just made the rules for kid's game as a VIP host
If you look closely in the tug-of-war scene at the end when they’re laying down, out of breath… it shows all of the characters and their wrists. His is the only one whose shackles do not have a lock on it. He would’ve been safe even if they fell
I always see some comments that they hate the old man, but I personally love him. Even tho he's the mastermind, I really like seeing his smile and his acting is amazing ✨👏
@@juicydragon8532 I mean nobody had to play the game, it was all their choice, they could’ve actually worked hard for the money, like get a job, sell some un-needed stuff, but instead they chose to call some sketchy number to play some games to win money, it was all their choice.
He was safe in tug a war & this isn't the first squid game he's ran as shown in the episode where the detective looks through the past winners which means he's probably killed over thousands
* Spoilers * What about the 200 people that died in the first game? Doesn’t really seem like a fair challenge to me. Of course, they could’ve won pretty easily, but they were not told that they can die. Don’t know how to feel about him, I loved him through the whole series but now that I know that he made these games…. I’m not sure. He could’ve experienced that “special feeling” without having to kill thousands of humans and potentially destroying their families as well. hm.
Yes but the reason is that if he first tell it to the people they wouldn’t play they will instantly vote for returning home. He can’t said it before the game in the dorm as well because it will cause players to riot. He could have said it at the playground though since he don’t allow people to exit at that point. But he must kept his mouth shut until the game is about to start. By not revealing the dark side of the game, people normalized when they see people dying in front of them eventually players returned to the game even though they voted for quitting the game.
@@kessievaudran it's more like a psychological move. Making people think that they got no chance other than this. Litterally everyone got selected was in desperate need for money.
Don’t think giving someone a choice to play in your life threatening games, helps defend him. I can give someone the offer to play Russian roulette, I don’t avoid responsibility if they decide to join and die
@@doges6467they weren t kids, they were grown ups who could decide for themselves. Yes the idea of the game is cruel, but the fact that people decided to come back and play its fully on them
"This is why you shouldn't be mad at the old man from squid game" Me: "who said I was?" "even tho he killed thousands of people-" Me:"oh yeah, I forgot about that"
Honestly, when I was watching this, I suspected the old man a lot because there's always this reminder inside my head that tells me that people who look so innocent are the ones who hide a lot of secrets. But even tho this old man was sus, I did not have the heart to think that he would be behind everything and right after his 'death' when he was playing the game, my suspicion lessen, I still did not believe he was dead right after that though, perhaps it was the unwillingness to let go in my heart that made me believe that he was still not dead after the game. Also, I've watched too many stuff that I already know he was someone special and that thought only grew when they asked for his name and he could not remember. Also, when the marble game ended, when player 456 walked away and the old man was 'shot', I was convinced that the director really is smart because player 456 is the very last player and the old man was 001, the first player and I think that was genius.
The old man or Oh Il-nam is actually one of my favourite characters even though he planned the whole game, He was really funny to me! And he just felt like an old man who wanted to have fun playing games with other people! And I mean, he actually made it fair for them and the second time when they came back it was their own choice! No one forced them! :)
👁👄👁 so what about the first round. Did they have a choice to come back? (The people who got shot obviously) they didn't even know that was going to happen 😂
the old man didn’t help in tug of war to save his own life. he was never attached to the rope so if his team failed he could let go before he fell and died
He didn't betrayed anyone, He gaved his last marble to Gi-hun when Gi-hun begged for it and he played having dementia but when he said he "did" have it Gi-hun used it, which is shit but at the end of the day people are gonna die soon, It was just sad when Ali Was betrayed by Sang-woo
Actually, there are videos showing that the old man wasn't attached to the rope during tug of war, so he really was just helping everyone. Also, yeah, I can see reasons as to why you should or shouldn't be mad at him, and I think either opinion is extremely valid and isn't necessarily wrong, however, it's still a fact that he is a wealthy elite that pushed 400+ people into dying for his own self satisfaction.
Do the know they have to stay still when the doll says red light and n o they ran when the game said move when its green light and stop when its red light and yet they still ran away 😶
@@Maiko_AnimateZ I agree, They're stupid enough for doing it.. But I'm sure i'll panic too if i ever witnessed someone died in front of me while we didn't got any context "eliminated" means.
I really like this character, one of my favorites in the show, everybody had a choice to opt out or stay in the game, so then dying was their fault and of their own free will🤷🏼♀️
@@Theredstar2478 yeah maybe they filmed the scene and asked him if he wants to be locked to the rope and he didnt want it and they thaugth that noone would see that
There are so many voices on UA-cam, and there are incredible creators that are popular for a reason. And although it's great to be inspired by them, nobody is going to subscribe to a second-rate version of them. It's really important to put your best foot forward and be your best self because you will always be the number one version of you.
I liked the old man, I hated the friend. He was supposed to be a “victory at any cost” but ended up being treacherous for no reason at times. Like not telling your allies about the cookie game.
You can’t say he was totally fair when the first round of people didn’t get the choice to continue the game lmao they just thought it’d be simple competitions and were shot dead
I feel like the entire idea of squid game isn’t that cruel. The people participating in it already essentially lost their lives. They’re in hundreds, even millions of dollars in debt. I think the whole idea of killing people in squid game is no different than not participating at all. We even see that after they opt to end the game, many just go back because they realize that their lives are all the same either way. The old man’s idea of squid game is giving those who essentially don’t have a life a chance to turn their lives around.
You do realize these people go missing and their families never know why. Being in dept is not even close to being dead. It may feel like it but even in the end pretty much everyone pleaded for their life or was sad to go. Also that is so much trauma to dump on one person. Imagine the Ptsd, and decades of therapy you would need. In no way is squid game "not that bad" Especially if they didn't warn everyone what being "eliminated" actually means.
Hell nah , that old man is just another rich fuck getting off on the idea of putting poor people who desperately need money in a fucked up game. It's like if Jeff bazos decided to do the hunger games , would that make him a good person just cuz "he's giving poor people the chance to be rich by killing each other bc their lives suck anyways" . . . Like yeah the people are stupid af for participating but they must be desperate to go through something like this , sad that they're even put in a position like that in the first place..
@@pileofsaltOG like I said before the people participating are in hundreds of thousands of debt. They can’t or won’t be able to afford to feed their families. If one day they were to go missing, their families would still probably guess they had died. It’s essentially a long lottery between hundreds of people who are essentially dead in order to gain a second chance at life.
Wait people were mad at him? I wasn’t I was hella impressed with what he did Ngl and how he seemed like a background character but has the little spark that seems like he’s gonna be someone important
It was not fair at all, first off, he picked those players who really are desperate, like Gi Hun(who's daughter is Abt to leave, and a mom who is Abt to die) and Sang Woo (Who is suicidal), he clearly handpicked those players (he did background check on each of em). When the voting after the first game happened, if was clear that he would pick to leave to make the players realize that their life out there is more cruel than their life inside, people who picked the red came back to the game. You can call it fair but twas not (for me), the mechanics of the game was not clear ever since the beginning, it was told as if a lot of people would win when in reality, only one would. If they told the players that only one would win tho cash, do you think a lot of people would still play? They were told abt "games" but they added that part where players must kill each other to make the price go up, first off, the whole fight was not fair, the players are classed differently, there are gangsters, business man (who went bankrupt or smthng), just desperate ole people, etc. The "games" (honeycomb, bridge) were fair for the fact that those games were the games they played as a child, they were familiar with it. He did help in the tug of war but it was for himself, he didn't even have a lock at his chains, so that if his team loses he wouldn't die with them.
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No
The duality of man
@@darealspooderman6954 danggggg that’s a good response
@@darealspooderman6954 How to cancel someone easily:
I kinda think the old man good
We love him, we hate him, it doesn’t really matter. Il Nam Oh is a great and cruel person at the same time.
I don’t understand what makes him so cruel
Id ont too
@Alf Animation he gave them two chances to leave the game even after they got to see how terrifying it is they had a choice
@Alf Animation To be fair they still had a choice to join when they got the business card in the beginning
@@Sera_Phim70 They didn't know they were going to die 😂
"He gave everyone a choice to come back"
The 255 people who died in the first round who didnt know what they were signing for: 😶😶
😂
@@Boxman420 Yeah, because you won't panic in that situation. Sure...
@@wundu7512 sorry that was a stupid comment
I mean 1 person died who wouldn’t know what was going to happen, the rest were just dumb and ran away during red light knowing people gon get shot if u move
@@PappyP it's a natural fight fight or freeze response. Don't you jump at loud noises especially gun shots?
The old man was by far my favorite. His smile was so wholesome and I wasn’t even mad he plotted the whole thing.
i agree
Agreed
He just wanted to feel like a kid again before he died :(
He got innocent people killed
@@burrito_therapy9156 Those people subjected themselves to risking their lives, even though already have a chance to stop playing.
Also when he was telling everyone to stop it because it was scaring him, that’s when the workers decided to come in and end it. Because they know he’s boss.
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He is not the boss watch episode 9
@@lavernedaniels8837 nah, he is, the front man is still under him.
@@lavernedaniels8837 Yep the front man is under the old man
On the Tug of War one, even if they lost, he wouldn’t die because his hands weren’t cuffed on the rope or something like that.
They were all wearing the shackles including the old man but his shackles didn’t have a lock on them
Imagine they lost and the old guy got exposed
@@tethegoat2485 nah man The guards will cover him saying a lock failure and took him inside where nobody can see him
Yanfei
Bro he clearly has the locks on🤦🏽♂️ and in the clip you are talking about, his hand is facing down which is why you can’t see the lock
"This is why you shouldn't be mad at the old man I squid games."
Me "I'm not I freaken love him"
SAME
Ikr like bruuh sweet old man mastermind of a deadly game like what a twist
YESSIR WE SHOULD LOVE HIM BECAUSE HIS THE CREATOR OF THE GAME
i predicted that the old man was the mastermind since episode 4 lmao
Same bro hes just too innocent even tho he made the game
If you look closely when they are playing tug of war he is the only player that isn't locked to the rope
Yet he still helped his team when he knew he wasn’t gonna die all along
That is even a better argument for the user of this video
he still helped them tho
Thats likely because it plays in Korea and in Korea you respect the old people.
@[] Miss. ICON [] he is the creator of the game
"He's nice he saved his team in tug of war "as if he's not the one killing the other team lol
😂
Tug of war is just one of those games where there is no other choice but for players to die
The old man couldn’t have died, he wasn’t locked into his cuffs. Therefore he did it to save his team
But wouldn't it seem very suspicious if his entire team all lost and fell to their deaths and he stood there alive and uncuffed?
@@rejecthumanityreturntocrab6521 Two brains think alike
@@rejecthumanityreturntocrab6521 if he were to lose the guards would just shoot the other people there,miss out on 5 players sure,but you save the life of the boss
The guards would have dragged him out of anyones sight and shit randomly
You can actually see locks on his cuffs too.
Ngl, i think that the old man is really cute. The way he smiles while playing the games just makes me smile too
you nasty
@@emilio5320 wut? I just like how he doesn't forget to smile while playing the games
@@emilio5320 No bro, nobody wants to think that shit
Same
He had a bunch of sad, indebted, and even demented people play in a game that had a high chance of getting them killed. How is he in anyways "cute".
I honestly wished the old man has his own perspective towards the end of the series. I would love to know his life story. But no matter what, Il Nam was one of my favorite characters in the show, besides Ali.
I agree
I heard that a second season has been confirmed. maybe this time it will happen what you say.
Long live Ali, he deserved better 😔
@@ur_girl_adrixoxo HHH IKR :’0
@@ur_girl_adrixoxo I cried
"real reason why you shouldn't be mad at the old man"
-Cuz he's old and his smile is just wholesome.
And he killed 255 in a pretty unfair way
@@averagetboihater8357 nobody forced the 255 ppl to participate. They all joined willingly and nobody even bothered to ask any questions.
@@wltaloof3747 they had no way to know that elimination meant death
@@averagetboihater8357 they got into a van, woke up in an unfamiliar room with 455 other people, there were guards with masks on, and you’re telling me none of them would ask what they mean by “eliminate”? I’m sorry, you deserve anything that happens to you at that point.
@@averagetboihater8357 nobody asked. Even when they are given the contracts and the staff told them they will answer questions, they all ask stupid questions. Only the girl asked something useful.
the way i cried so hard when he let gihun win the marble-game and when he got shot i balled my eyes out because i have this soft spot in my heart for elder people 😭 his smile was so cute too, i just cant bring myself to hate him even if hes evil,,
SAMEEE AND I FEEL SO BAD WHEN THE PLAYERS ATTACKED EACH OTHER "please no I'm- I'm so scared" I FELT SO BAD and the one when he was looking for his house 😭
i just cant take anything seriously when someone mentions an elder dying,it reminds me of my grandma and that she cant live forever
Bruh he did not die…. Guys lemme tell u what happened they went off camera and shot in the air when the camera went off when he got “shot” his body wasn’t there and they revealed he took off the bunny hat and revealed it was him…did y’all finish squid game?
@@SavEncrypted bunny hat?
@@SavEncrypted and yes I finished squid game and he was bald alive but then fr died
No, he didn’t do tug of war to save his own life he did it to have fun. If you look closely when they’re all laying down after they win, you can see he has no locks
Because you respect the old people in Korea
@@Hel15 Why wouldn't u respect old people?
@@cactixp true lol unless that old man/woman is a scumbag
he didnt have locks cause during making squid game the lock hurted hus arms
@@catsoka6759 no, the people of the squid game wouldn’t care if it hurt his arms, everyone is treated equally. He is the one who is leading squid game so if they lost he wouldn’t die
I don't really think anyone was really mad at him, he was such a sweet and wholesome character in the show
the reason most people don’t like him is because he was the one who set up the game and he never actually died
well actually he did eventually die but it in the game
@@olive6534 he set up a game , true . Never forced anyone to join though. Maybe the first game was unfair to people but people chose to continue even after coming to know what the game really was. He's a grey charachter.
@@MichaelScott69 yeah, one half of the issue was the guy and the other half was the people who continued playing
@@MichaelScott69 what I don't like, is that the rules state you can't leave when you joun, THATS force. And because of that rule, I don't know how the police can do anything. Its technically legal now, it even says you MUST participate in the game or you're eleminated.
For the tug of war part that you talked about, he actually just did it for his team. His pad was actually unlocked, so he could’ve just gotten out whenever he wanted to. But he decided to save his team anyways.
I don't think that's the case tbh, yeah he could leave but why should he? It would've blown his cover, he wasnt cuffed just if things got extreme
@@nananakeson well that prooves he wasn't fighting for his life back then...
Of you look closely during the scene where they all lie exhausted, they all have padlocks on the shackles that hold them to the rope, while he doesn't
@@WikterRor2807 that doesn't change what I said at all
@@WikterRor2807 as I said in my comment "he could leave but why?" If he leaves he would've blew his cover he didn't had padlocks in case they lost but that doesn't mean he shouldn't play
He did that cause “I’m SCARED”
But the episode with the marbles he was just like: "Oh I lost again". I cried when they "shot" him but little did I know 😂
he still died
(i also cried when he gave his last marble to his friend)
@@jackiewoods1226 yes he did die but not in the game though
@judo light unicorn evil_8095 he never got shot?
@blueberry milkshake 🥛 but he didn't get shot-
The only time I cried during the show is that scene then I felt betrayed afterward HAHA but I mean :'3 old man :'3
He's still an adorable old man and nobody can prove me wrong.
facts
Yes
Uh… yeah he is 😅😅
So truuueeee UwU
Literally
No one hates the old man he was sweet asf
Yes.. they do 😟
I hate him. How you gonna say “he was sweet asf” when he literally started games to kill people 😐
@@KoolioVibez he started it but don't force people to enter it also that old man smile makes my day
@@hellobelloww6010 ye you're right the people sign the contract
@@overlanderwendyzainolabidi7790 not only that, but they always had the right to stop playing the game and leave
I literally cried when he gave that marble back. I think the whole game would be justifiable if they had told the first lot that, by elimination they mean death. But the rest, the game was actually a lot more fair and equal and on basis of probability. BUT there were certain advantages that some players had which wasn't equalised.
Ye I got a migraine From crying at his death
Yea, except for the first like 50 people? Who died in the first game... Most willingly came back and then the actual game started
Yea well equality doesn't mean equity...
People have advantages they make use of...
The crazy bitch would go to bed with the strongest man, the strongest man... Well is the Strongest... Etc
@@WikterRor2807 bro its a show chill
@@sen4090 let me enjoy things my way, thank you
He is my favorite character in squid game just look how adorable he is 🥺
Edit: how did I even have- nvm
TY SO MUCH FOR ALMOST 100 LIKES!
Same i love his smile!
Hes so cute!!!!
I have a wallpaper of him smiling
Yeah I was never mad at him even at the end I was so happy he was still alive but he still died he was my favorite :(
I know he is cute!
He is my favorite too
I honestly don't hate the old man, I really don't. I understand why many people hate him because he's the mastermind, but yeah, he is fair! He gave the players a choice to join the game or not. Even when they know they could die, they still chose to join back! Because of MONEY. The old man also didn't blame anyone for hating him, he knew what he did is wrong. And he accepted the consequences. I honestly think the old man doesn't deserve all the hate, he's one of my favourite characters!
(I think I started a war in the comments 💀 please don't attack me it's my opinion 🗿)
so? that doesn't by far justify his evilness
@@pletskoo514 he isn't evil, he's just...selfish.
No it wasn't fair, never were they told that they would die.
@@LazyL_edits being selfish at other's expence is evil
@@snaildude268 they were told after, of course I agree with you that it's unfair for the people in the first game. But of course, the people who survived knew they would die. Of course they left the game, but only to get back in again. As you can see, they know they have a big chance to die! Still, they choose to go back. Being Selfish is what most people have, it's not evil. Of course, I don't think the old man is fully good.
He actually was just trying to help in tug of war because his chain wasn’t locked on his hand like the rest of them and wouldn’t have died if they lost!
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He gave everyone a chance to “choose” whether or not to leave but let’s remember that they purposely handpicked the most desperate players they could find, pretty much guaranteeing they would come back and he would have a show to watch. There’s a reason why they didn’t choose people who were financially stable, because they wouldn’t have a reason to stay. He didn’t care about giving people a choice or helping them get some money. He just wanted an entertaining show and knew these players would do anything for the cash, which shows how insane he is. He also kept tabs on Gihun and the players who never returned, which means even the ones who “survived” could still be in danger.
Let’s not forget that the first 255 people didn’t have a choice, as they didn’t know the full extent of what an elimination was. He set up an elaborate game to watch humans murder other humans for “fun”. I don’t understand how anyone could like him or think he was a logical, sane person.
Yes but killed all the people in the first game and that’s ok?
Nope. Every single time, they are all given a choice. Unlike other shows, nobody kidnapped them or use maybe someone precious as hostage against them.
@@wltaloof3747
So I guess knocking someone out and driving them to a strange island doesn’t count as kidnapping?😂 they agreed to play games, not to get stowed away to some strange island and potentially die if they get eliminated.
@@Lyssa3Lynn did they not choose to enter the vehicle by themselves? If u were not told the place where thr even is being held, u would consider it to be dangerous no? Its because they all massive amounts of debt they hv to pay and they got greedy because of the man in the train station.
@@Lyssa3Lynn wat they agreed was all stated in the contract. Even when they were "kidnapped", they were still given a chance whether they want to sign the contract or leave.
Im wayy more mad at sang-woo for killing Ali, and the Sae-byeok. Especially Ali he won fair and square and Sang-woo just tricks him. I was devastated
Swear i was pissed when he betrayed Ali but when he killed Sae-byeok i was ready to jump in the tv and kill him myself
@Erwin Smith what? No one said sae byeok cheated
@Erwin Smith it’s all good my g,
shinzou wo sasageyo
I was mad asf because of that and the tears of Ali made it much more worse
Ali was so nice i will never forgive him for tricking ali.
When he gave the strat to win tug of war he actually wasn’t chained to the rope so therefore he did it to save THEM
Edit: lmao I thought no one would see this and I’m not arguing if he is “good or bad”
Yeah
But he killed like a whole bunch of people tho... for entertainment and his own personal experience
But it would have blown his cover
@@Alice-sw3rp exactly and he wanted to play the game so if he did get caught he wouldn't be able to play and the players would most likely try to kill him
@@Alexa-pl2bs well i mean yes they would like to but i guess they couldn't bc why would he continue if they knew
In tug of war everyone else were locked to the rope, he wasn’t. So even if they would have lost he had a way out. He had a way to get out in every game.
Because he was the one who made squid game
@@ritvaranade459 he didn't make squid game he just hosted a game
@@happyguy1341 nah he make squid game and his a vip
So the one in the marbles one was basically his off-camera escape plan.
I’m wondering what he would have done on the glass bridge. My assumption is that he would most definitely go for #16 at that point; so that when everyone is eliminated to that point. He will be left alone.
@@drewdrew7374 he created the concepts of the game as his last wish sure he's a VIP but he did not make squid game he just made the rules for kid's game as a VIP host
That old mans life was never at risk in the tug of war, his cufs weren't even locked
I never even hated him- i loved him and honestly was just happy he was a bigger part of the plot
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Bro how can i love him he plotted all deaths all deaths happen because of him 🥲🥲🥲😭
@@yinyan1312 yeah
@@yinyan1312 that’s just so wrong… they were desperate, on verge of death in outside world, so he just killed them in a game
@@justadult3493 they literally knew about the death games since they left and came back. it was their own will
Il Nam (old man) was my favourite
He is so nice
I cried when he was "shot"
Same
He did not died when he was shot if you did not know already
@@v1ncecuhstepdaddy528 They quoted shot because they knew he didn’t get shot.
I know he didnt die but i thought so yea same
I cried too when i think he was about to get "shot". He was cute and always happy,his one of my favourite
He's literally the only one I love in the show and finally someone agrees
I can't say the only one but agreed
He is my fav character too
Ill-nam is so kind for me, he really like playing the games with Gi-hun.
If you look closely in the tug-of-war scene at the end when they’re laying down, out of breath… it shows all of the characters and their wrists. His is the only one whose shackles do not have a lock on it. He would’ve been safe even if they fell
Still, if they lost and he escaped, it would have completely blown his cover which is something he didn’t want.
Slick
The old man is one of my favourite characters in the show
I always see some comments that they hate the old man, but I personally love him. Even tho he's the mastermind, I really like seeing his smile and his acting is amazing ✨👏
Same
RIGHT LIKEE HE LOOKED SO PUREE
Bro he’s literally a serial killer u good????
@@juicydragon8532 IM GREAT DUDE "LOOKED" REREAD THAT .
@@juicydragon8532 I mean nobody had to play the game, it was all their choice, they could’ve actually worked hard for the money, like get a job, sell some un-needed stuff, but instead they chose to call some sketchy number to play some games to win money, it was all their choice.
He was safe in tug a war & this isn't the first squid game he's ran as shown in the episode where the detective looks through the past winners which means he's probably killed over thousands
He always dip out and the marble game or the one on one games. The town is to conceal him going off.
He's actually the reason why I cried
I cryed when Sang-woo died he is the best character
@@stayangryalpaca7322 he is worst imo
@@borisborkovic8894 I mean, what could he do? There were all gonna die anyway expect the winner of course.
Him ji-yeong and ali
"You shouldent be mad at the old man"
Also the old man tricking like 100 incocent people who dies in the first game
They were stupid enough to move
It clearly said don’t move when “it” says red light
Then they moved IDIOTS
@@Tomato3njoyer lol ikr
It wasnt his fault
It was their stupidity
@@GenQ-mk50r3 When you see people killed in front of you, you have to give them slack for panicking....
He chose to let everyone go home when it was 50/50 so he didn’t force anyone. It was there own stupidity
Damn, "incocent" people eh? One of those participant is literally a gangster and killed someone before they putted in the game.
* Spoilers *
What about the 200 people that died in the first game? Doesn’t really seem like a fair challenge to me. Of course, they could’ve won pretty easily, but they were not told that they can die.
Don’t know how to feel about him, I loved him through the whole series but now that I know that he made these games…. I’m not sure. He could’ve experienced that “special feeling” without having to kill thousands of humans and potentially destroying their families as well.
hm.
Forget about the first game. He's been killing hundreds for several years.
Yes but the reason is that if he first tell it to the people they wouldn’t play they will instantly vote for returning home. He can’t said it before the game in the dorm as well because it will cause players to riot. He could have said it at the playground though since he don’t allow people to exit at that point. But he must kept his mouth shut until the game is about to start. By not revealing the dark side of the game, people normalized when they see people dying in front of them eventually players returned to the game even though they voted for quitting the game.
Exactly! That first game was not at all fare in terms of anything
They signed a contract at the beginning
@@kessievaudran it's more like a psychological move. Making people think that they got no chance other than this. Litterally everyone got selected was in desperate need for money.
Old mans aura is too high for us
I dont hate him, if I'm being honest I feel like he's so wholesome even thought he was wrong 😅
Same
Oh no, he is objectively wholesome. He's also objectively a monster, but a wholesome monster
Same
He didnt force anyone to play, he just gave them a chance and without the old man we wouldnt had this series
Without telling them they litereally die if they lose
Honestly yeah he is kinda a lawful or neutral evil or true neutral in a way
@@Fj-OuterSans true
And the first 200 deaths ?
He never told them they would die if they lost
I feel so bad for him he is always addressed as “old man” lol
The fact i call him Old man tho because i always forget the names of the characters 😃
@@KyuxLuvsU same I just call him 1
I think his name is oh ill-nam
Bro should have been his lawyer 😂
Respect to him since he saved his new friends life for the first and last
I don’t really hate him
He was really kind and yes even though he created this
The others had a choice to play he never forced them to
And he followed through, when I looked at it I thought they kidnapped them, but they had a choice
Don’t think giving someone a choice to play in your life threatening games, helps defend him. I can give someone the offer to play Russian roulette, I don’t avoid responsibility if they decide to join and die
@@doges6467 no what I meant what was he let them decide, it was their risk of dying or not
@@asdalover215 Thats facts.
@@doges6467they weren t kids, they were grown ups who could decide for themselves. Yes the idea of the game is cruel, but the fact that people decided to come back and play its fully on them
Here's why you shouldn't be mad at the old man in Squid Games:
*He's just an actor.*
😒
Yeah a good actor
We're talking about the character, not the actor
@@stranger-xg2si :O KYOKO
@@stranger-xg2si makoto is looking for you.
First round 200+ people die without even knowing they were gonna die.
Old man: 😁🙃🙂
"This is why you shouldn't be mad at the old man from squid game"
Me: "who said I was?"
"even tho he killed thousands of people-"
Me:"oh yeah, I forgot about that"
But they chose to come back he didn't force them
Even though he is evil, he's still my favourite character from squid game.
Honestly, when I was watching this, I suspected the old man a lot because there's always this reminder inside my head that tells me that people who look so innocent are the ones who hide a lot of secrets. But even tho this old man was sus, I did not have the heart to think that he would be behind everything and right after his 'death' when he was playing the game, my suspicion lessen, I still did not believe he was dead right after that though, perhaps it was the unwillingness to let go in my heart that made me believe that he was still not dead after the game. Also, I've watched too many stuff that I already know he was someone special and that thought only grew when they asked for his name and he could not remember. Also, when the marble game ended, when player 456 walked away and the old man was 'shot', I was convinced that the director really is smart because player 456 is the very last player and the old man was 001, the first player and I think that was genius.
The old man or Oh Il-nam is actually one of my favourite characters even though he planned the whole game, He was really funny to me! And he just felt like an old man who wanted to have fun playing games with other people!
And I mean, he actually made it fair for them and the second time when they came back it was their own choice! No one forced them! :)
You literally missed the whole point of the show...unless this is sarcasm than nvm carry on
👁👄👁 so what about the first round. Did they have a choice to come back? (The people who got shot obviously) they didn't even know that was going to happen 😂
@@lmTrashT-T True-
The first time I watched the show, when they were fighting and he said he was scared I felt so bad
I actually always loved him and cried at BOTH deaths 😭💗
The old man had no locks so if they lost he would pull himself off so he really did help them
Why would I be mad at him? He is literally the best character
Exactly 😂😂 “ I’m SCARED”
Fr
the old man didn’t help in tug of war to save his own life. he was never attached to the rope so if his team failed he could let go before he fell and died
That's all ready true but that doesn't change the fact that he truly betrayed Gi-hun
How did he betray him? He saved his life twice.
Why would i be mad at him?
He may betrayed his ggunba buddy but was so helpfull even tho the other people didnt rely on him because how old he is...
He was betrayed by gi hun I'm pretty sure, I don't think he betrayed anyone
He didn't betrayed anyone, He gaved his last marble to Gi-hun when Gi-hun begged for it and he played having dementia but when he said he "did" have it Gi-hun used it, which is shit but at the end of the day people are gonna die soon, It was just sad when Ali Was betrayed by Sang-woo
@@Al_ic3 oh yeah! Gi-hun did leave him to die- i dont mean the marble game but Gi-hun did leave at the sky scraper dead-
@@Nathansimbajon yes i remember .
Sang-woo betraying ali. broke my heart😔
@MyNameIsMak well Yes you are right there, And Gganbu buddies they are
Why do I feel like the old man is so precious bro he is so like heartwarming I can't
He was my favorite the entire series, I was so surprised it was him at the end.
Some people dislike him but for me he's definitely my favorite character! I love the type of person he portrays it's amazing!
Same
Honestly, same.
Ahem ahem, episode '6'
Actually, there are videos showing that the old man wasn't attached to the rope during tug of war, so he really was just helping everyone.
Also, yeah, I can see reasons as to why you should or shouldn't be mad at him, and I think either opinion is extremely valid and isn't necessarily wrong, however, it's still a fact that he is a wealthy elite that pushed 400+ people into dying for his own self satisfaction.
You have to admit. One of the craziest plot twists of all time
Doesn’t matter we lost 56% of the players in the first round.
Do the know they have to stay still when the doll says red light and n o they ran when the game said move when its green light and stop when its red light and yet they still ran away 😶
@@Maiko_AnimateZ I agree, They're stupid enough for doing it.. But I'm sure i'll panic too if i ever witnessed someone died in front of me while we didn't got any context "eliminated" means.
@@Maiko_AnimateZ it's because of panic reaction,
@@Maiko_AnimateZ pretty sure if dies and the blood is all over me i will cry and freak out
He was my favourite character and I actually had a couple of tears at the end of the marbles episode, I was in total shock on the last episode
YOU HAD A COUPLE TEARS??? BRO I WAS SOBBING
I really like this character, one of my favorites in the show, everybody had a choice to opt out or stay in the game, so then dying was their fault and of their own free will🤷🏼♀️
"never judge a book by it's cover"
Not even to save his own life, he wasn’t locked into the rope
Koreans respect the old people so that could be a reason that he wasnt locked
@@Hel15 no, remember in the show they said the game is fair with no advantages to other people
@@Theredstar2478 yeah maybe they filmed the scene and asked him if he wants to be locked to the rope and he didnt want it and they thaugth that noone would see that
@@Hel15 nah it was an Easter egg for the ending of the season
There are so many voices on UA-cam, and there are incredible creators that are popular for a reason. And although it's great to be inspired by them, nobody is going to subscribe to a second-rate version of them. It's really important to put your best foot forward and be your best self because you will always be the number one version of you.
I just saw a yt short right before this that was about “Here’s why the old man in Squid Game might be cheating” and I see this. wow
That’s some Danganronpa “Junko was the person behind it all” type stuff
I liked the old man, I hated the friend. He was supposed to be a “victory at any cost” but ended up being treacherous for no reason at times. Like not telling your allies about the cookie game.
Talkin about sang woo
SPOILER ALERT
Yes but he killed himself in the end
@@farishd7549 wasted ali for dying at the end bruh
@@-bazoona3654 like ali shouldn’t have died
He wasn’t being treacherous for no reason. Remember less competition and more money. It’s easier to get rid of trusting ppl, as we saw how he did Ali.
@@lilhypnotique well i cant disagree with that
Its really hard to get angry ro that old man hes just to sweet
I know he planned this all, but I still yet love him
He was so innocent to me and I almost cried when they "shot" him in the marbles game
The old man did not have a lock on, when he played the 3rd game.
“this is why you should not be mad at the old man in squidgame”
me: “ i dont care because i dont let it get too me”
You can’t say he was totally fair when the first round of people didn’t get the choice to continue the game lmao they just thought it’d be simple competitions and were shot dead
You gotta admit, they all agreed to sus contracts and that's enough for me not to think of any of the superiors as evil
@@hellothere186 but they never mentioned that eliminated means death. That’s vital info
I always loved the old man even at the end
I feel like the entire idea of squid game isn’t that cruel. The people participating in it already essentially lost their lives. They’re in hundreds, even millions of dollars in debt. I think the whole idea of killing people in squid game is no different than not participating at all. We even see that after they opt to end the game, many just go back because they realize that their lives are all the same either way. The old man’s idea of squid game is giving those who essentially don’t have a life a chance to turn their lives around.
You do realize these people go missing and their families never know why. Being in dept is not even close to being dead. It may feel like it but even in the end pretty much everyone pleaded for their life or was sad to go. Also that is so much trauma to dump on one person. Imagine the Ptsd, and decades of therapy you would need.
In no way is squid game "not that bad"
Especially if they didn't warn everyone what being "eliminated" actually means.
Hell nah , that old man is just another rich fuck getting off on the idea of putting poor people who desperately need money in a fucked up game. It's like if Jeff bazos decided to do the hunger games , would that make him a good person just cuz "he's giving poor people the chance to be rich by killing each other bc their lives suck anyways" . . . Like yeah the people are stupid af for participating but they must be desperate to go through something like this , sad that they're even put in a position like that in the first place..
@@pileofsaltOG like I said before the people participating are in hundreds of thousands of debt. They can’t or won’t be able to afford to feed their families. If one day they were to go missing, their families would still probably guess they had died. It’s essentially a long lottery between hundreds of people who are essentially dead in order to gain a second chance at life.
no no it's wrong You can't have fun people getting hurt for money even if they agree for it
I’m not mad at him, I’m mad at Sang-woo like he killed Ali, Sae-Byeok, and that glassmaker guy. Like Ali and Sae-Byeok did nothing wrong 🥺😭
don't say sae-byeok 😭😭 my eyes are swollen from crying
@@gordonramsayateyourgrandma So am I😔😞
“He’s very fair”
**continues to tell his one and only team strategies to win**
Why would he help others win, they didn’t want to play with him
This actor is legend
This is why you shouldn’t be mad at the old man:
ITS JUST A SHOW ON NETFLIX
Damn
Wait people were mad at him? I wasn’t I was hella impressed with what he did Ngl and how he seemed like a background character but has the little spark that seems like he’s gonna be someone important
I'm sorry for the people that thought what I said is real I didn't understand , I saw him making a short about how he is , pls forgive me
Wait is it actually?? I thought he was joking in the short he made
@@lilynettogingerbackOmg please forgive me , I thought it was real but it isn't
@@Swxxt_t3a dont apologize, it was a simple error 🙂
@@lilynettogingerback ok, thank you for not starting drama like some other people
@@Swxxt_t3a 😊 im not a fan of drama tbh, so i dont see a point of starting pointless drama
I don't know but old men is the first character in movie actually make me cry
It was not fair at all, first off, he picked those players who really are desperate, like Gi Hun(who's daughter is Abt to leave, and a mom who is Abt to die) and Sang Woo (Who is suicidal), he clearly handpicked those players (he did background check on each of em).
When the voting after the first game happened, if was clear that he would pick to leave to make the players realize that their life out there is more cruel than their life inside, people who picked the red came back to the game.
You can call it fair but twas not (for me), the mechanics of the game was not clear ever since the beginning, it was told as if a lot of people would win when in reality, only one would. If they told the players that only one would win tho cash, do you think a lot of people would still play?
They were told abt "games" but they added that part where players must kill each other to make the price go up, first off, the whole fight was not fair, the players are classed differently, there are gangsters, business man (who went bankrupt or smthng), just desperate ole people, etc. The "games" (honeycomb, bridge) were fair for the fact that those games were the games they played as a child, they were familiar with it.
He did help in the tug of war but it was for himself, he didn't even have a lock at his chains, so that if his team loses he wouldn't die with them.
YEEEEEEEEEESSSSS!!!! SAY IT!!!! You are absolutely right!
YESSSS LOUDER FOR THE BACK ROW. Lowkey I still don’t get the hype but good for you if you find this serie enjoyable
that's why old man is my favourite character
The old man at the game "😃just doing the game smiling😃"
😁
Bro the ending was shocking
I think old man is the mastermind in squid game
Oh and when I learned the old man’s motivation I was happy he made the squad games
He is so nice irl tho
The old man is one of my fav cahracters in squid game
The Old man is my favorite in red light green light
the old man was literally my favorite character
Tbh the old man is the one who made the game red light green light. The old man smile made my heart melt❤️
I really cared for him idc about anything i just didn’t want him to die