Its possible and probably the case seeing as like you said its classic movie talk but then again he did shoot his brother near the heart and that was a long fall so who knows
Also before he was shot in the shoulder the Camera pans down to the cliffs edge that’s crumbling off with his foot on the edge to me that is a hint he planned falling off the cliff this way to survive
I'm so confused, after the police guy gets shot we get a scene of them two and the front man taking bullets off,is the police guy dead or alive I misunderstood everything
@@VIXANDRE1498 the front man saw his brother in the mirror. He replayed the moment that his brother asked him “why?” Flashbacks are usually due to trauma/PTSD, his brother wasn’t actually there.
plus it goes without saying; no body, not dead. he would definitely live through the shoulder shot, too important of a character to kill like that. I'm sure he and gi hun will cross paths again in the game
@@ahanapal4055 its p obv he just left it up to chance. it was heavily implied that the 2 brothers had a deep and loving rs and like all the other comments said, frontman used to be in korean police and has a high sense of marksmanship, always shooting ppl in the head. junho was the only exception. frontman obv shot him in the shoulder and just left it up to chance whether he would survive or die
Theory: the Front Man's motive for participating in the Game in 2015, wasn't just to pay off his own debts. It was also to win the money his family would need to pay for his brother's medical treatment. Imagine the stakes. Like, not only do you have the clock ticking on your brother's survival and the money for his surgery on the line. But as his donor, if you die, then your brother's last chance at life is gone too. Imagine how desperate that would make you, what you would find yourself capable of doing, how much of your soul you would sacrifice in order to win...
Ah man, that makes so much sense as to why In-ho would want to play the game. Not to mention why he also disappeared afterwards. How would he explain to his family how he got so much money overnight? They may have believed that he had enough money to pay for the surgeries, but what about the money leftover? Not to mention when he shoots Jun-ho, he aims for a non-fatal shot. It looks like Jun-ho died after he lands into the water, but he could have survived and In-ho may have predicted this. While it does look like Jun-ho fell a long ways down, it could still be potentially survivable. So In-ho may have hired a secret team to retrieve his brother in case something like that happened. In-ho does likely have a lot of money left over from winning the games.
What I want for season 2: • Gi-Hun returning to the games in some way. • Flashbacks to the frontman’s games in 2015. • Flashbacks to when Oh Il-Nam started the games in 1988. • Jun-Ho survives and gets police involved. • Backstories/side-stories of VIP’s. • Squid games in different countries.
If the front man loved his brother enough to give him his own kidney then I doubt he’d be ruthless enough to make sure he was actually dead. I suspect he purposely aimed for a non-fatal shot and hoped he would survive.
@@drixjoker in episode 5, when Junho was looking for the list of players in Frontman's room, he saw his name in a list of winners. he was the 2015 winner.
Still doesn't make sence even if he went threw the same shi and won 40billion why would he want to spectate that shi again and have to respect the "VIPS" lmao
@@xedsity The money is obviously meaningless in comparison to the PTSD, depression, and trauma that is gained from being in the games and surviving as evidenced by Gi Hun.
To win the Squid Game, every winner has to go through a lot of death and emotional trauma. The marble game and the final round are explicitly designed to do so. It changes the person. Maybe he changed so much he couldn't go back to his old life. Having done what he did to win.
Marble game was exactly designed for that purpose. After the tug of war, players figured out the importance of a good team and their bond deepened. By giving them the option to pick just one teammate for the marble game, it made them choose the person they were deeply linked to and loved among all and by forcing them to fight each other to live.. it changed them entirely.. that's why episode 6 was so heartbreaking.. they all came out looking haunted...
My theory is that being a former police officer he had seen many unequal treatment in Korean society in which the rich and powerful can get away with crimes in which a normal person who would have been jailed instantly and maybe he had been made a scapegoat of a bribery case when he try to be a whistleblower or something to discredit him. Experiencing all these, he became a true believer of the games in which everyone had equal chance to win.
As i have watched tons of kdramas, its very highly likely that the frontman actually being accused for bribery for something he never did actually. Based on how he handled squid game, its clear that he is very upright guy who very strict with the rules.
I believe that might become the future our protagonist too.. he goes back to fix the squid game, ends up fixing the society that's 100x more fucked up than this game
Except the inequality philosophy is flawed. These were not victims of society, these were irresponsible people who were in debt, wasted fortunes or were criminals, etc. His philosophy would make sense if the participants were just low income people who are trying hard but can't catch a break. But they weren't.
You talking about equal chance when its the rich and powerful having fun watching the poor being killed and killing each other?😂 nah, that makes no sense
I would like to suggest that the reason the games begin in 1988 is not because of events in 1987, but rather because 1988 is an extremely important year in Korean culture. It was the year they hosted the Olympics (another international game), and was widely seen as their emergence from being "the Hermit Kingdom" to a major figure on the international scene. Indeed, for many years "Brand 88" was the most popular brand of cigarettes in the country.
ORR... I was just a coincidence. When making a set with background and props, not every single item is scrutinised and thought over in great depth. Crews don't have infinite time and are mostly on a very tight schedule to complete the set where filming is taking place. For example... a picture on the wall might just be a random picture that they placed and has no meaning behind it but people seem to assign a deeper meaning when there is none.
I think his obsession with the "fairness/equality" of the games was a pretty obvious cope; he *has* to believe in the games' morality because he won and now runs them. He's probably suffering a mix of survivor's guilt as well as maybe some kind of gratefulness for what the games did for him.
just a fun fact, in kidney transplants the defunct kidneys aren't typically removed. so the recipient has three kidneys inside their body while the donor is left with just one :D
6:02 I disagree. I think that the Front Man was keeping that small apartment as a cover, as it would have been too suspicious if he possessed a mansion or if he lived luxuriously all of a sudden. The Front Man does enjoy luxury, you can tell by his room in the game, or by the expensive wine he drinks.
I believe the old man had said he used to wear the black mask, which makes sense because the vips asked for the normal guy when they arrived. But because 001 was participating, he needed another person to wear the mask. I beloved it was his first time as the front man
The front man = Kylo Ren syndrome. He lived simple after the games (rejected the money just like our main character), planned to come back and destroy the games from the inside. Became the front man. Purposefully misses the shots on his brother to give him a chance to live while keeping his role believeable in front of the organization. He’s plotting revenge, you bet!
I strongly believe that the front man returned to the game for a bigger cause...He might be of a good character like Gi-hun(player 456) as he didn't use up his won money. He could have returned to stop this game permanently( like Gi-hun). He knew what his brother was unaware of. This would be a great twist and would certainly justify him shooting his brother as his ultimate aim was to stop the game but he knew that this was a very high profile thing and local cops couldn't deal with it.
@@acdesegurgels8663 I am saying exactly that. He knows that this is a very high profile case and he may be collecting more informartion. We never know but I'm just making an speculation. If they can monitor a person live then it won't be that hard to manipulate with the media when such big amount is talked about.
‼️SPOILER AHEAD READ AT YOUR OUN RISK‼️ It’s sad to see how damage Sangi-hun became after wining and finding his mom dead,he had such a friendly and goofy personality
Gihun is definitely not going to end up working for the Squid Game apparat, he’s a good person, he wanted to give up the money so Sangwoo wouldn’t die and the reason why he wasn’t spending the money was because he couldn’t get over all of the deaths he witnessed in the games, including his friends. He only started to spend the money after Il Nam died and he probably thought that the games were over but then he saw at the airport that the games are still going on, he decided to give up his happiness (to see his daughter) and to stop the game from killing more people.
I’m sure he’d do the same for Sae-byeok as well, he spent a lot of time helping people that cares less about him than he does, he gives me INFP vibes or something, and he was a broke her happy go lucky person for the most part until the games. But after the games he’s pretty much turned straight up dull, he lost everything that made him, him, and in the pursuit of money he forfeited everything that made him human. He lost his mother, he lost his childhood friend, he couldn’t even say bye to his daughter, he had to live with survivors guilt after beating all his friends at the games, so I bet his heart is too hard to be compassionate anymore. It’s possible.
I believe his brother is still alive. The Front Man has nailed dudes straight in the head multiple times, he's an ex-police officer, so he's got good aim. The fact that he didn't kills hot his brother tells me he was allowing him to survive. Coastguard potentially was called and picked him up.
@@HwangInhoBooNam the show writer didn't think that the show was gonna be popular enough for a 2nd season, but its been revealed that he has already begun writing on it.
We don't know when the front man gave "his kidney" to his brother. I wonder if the kidney was actually harvested from the games and the front man still has both his kidneys.
Nah, the organ trafficking gang was shot down by the front man himself, plus it's more likely that he gave his brother his own kidney because he was family
The organ selling was not connected to the main organisation. It's a side job of criminals that are trying to get some dirty money out of the dead players. And yup, Frontman's brother said that he gave his kidney to him, so he can have only one in most cases. Anyways, yeah, it's not very good theory.
@@tailsfanteg4712 whilst this is true I'm not convinced that the front man didn't know about the trafficking, just turned a blind eye perhaps. The brother wouldn't know that it wasn't from his brother. Just a theory, I guess we'll see.
That actor Lee Byung hun is a pure genius in acting I had mixed emotions seeing him play the " front man" in squid games with a mask over his face for most of the show. My first time watching this guy in action was in a movie called " I saw the devil" awesome film became a fan of his after that film. I really hope we get a season 2 and maybe 3 😍💘
Awesome job deciphering the clues in the front man’s apartment. I had a crazy thought. I think the front man once wanted to take down the games like Gi-hun, but he somehow got convinced to become the front man by Il Nam. I think Il Nam “recruited” the front man like he is somehow recruiting Gi-Hun over the course of the games. I don’t think striking a friendship was coincidental. I think it was a tryout for the next front man.
I have a feeling that the game the old man played before dying, he played that with the frontman before he became the frontman and the old man won and that's why the apartment was so normal and not rich looking and the frontman saw no hope for humanity like the old man
The Front Man also ordered that the intruder be brought to him alive. Why would he make such an order only to kill his unarmed brother? Yeah, I think the Front Man pulled his wounded brother out of the water, had him patched up, and put him in a cell for season 2. From a writing perspective having the Front Man talk to his little brother would be a great way to get some exposition across about how the Front Man got to where he is.
yeah and he called him for a talk and when his brother asked why he shoted him, i think he did that because the reds was just behind then and he doesn't want to show mercy, but let him alive
The host tells the frontman he must enter his imprisoned cop brother into 2022 Squid Game to win his freedom. The frontman does everything in his power to help his brother progress through every round, without arousing suspicion.
My mom figured out who the Front Man was just by looking at this guys apartment. She was like, " He reads 'Theory of Desire'...he must be one of the organisers." And I was like sitting next to her, trying so hard not to say, "What the...how did you know?"
@@TheDong604 id say it’s predictably unpredictable, the only real cliche part was sang woo saebyeok and gihun being the three finalists, they could’ve brought in more wildcard entries
The Salesman (Gong Yoo) and the Front Man (Lee Byung-hun) sold this entire show for me. Bringing in Seong Gi-hun and Oh Yeong-Su was just the icing on the cake.
The front mans hand is also trembeling when he pours a glas of whiskey during the redlight greenlight game. Might show he's not really comfortably during the games.
for some reason I felt he had cognitive dissonance. He tells the main character to think of it as a dream, and he watched red light green light with a song to mask the gunshot sounds and with lyrics literally saying *fly me to the moon* he hasn't coped at all. he's just taken it as part of life
Maybe he only pours scotch and makes a scene of “enjoying the show” because he knows he’s being watched. Maybe he, like his brother, is infiltrating the games.
This is the most in-depth and comprehensive guide to the Front Man that I've ever seen! Thank you so much for being so detail oriented. I love that you even broke down the art found in the Front Man's apartment. Excellent work and excellent video. Subscribed!
I believe he won't pull his brother out of the water but left him a fair chance to swim or die as his wound was't fatal. He could've just ended his brother there but chose not to because the Front Man's not a cruel man just trying to be fair to the game but he also can't let his own brother anywhere near the game as he would be 'eliminated'.. The Front Man's only weak spot is his brother who has never given up hope for finding him, he needs to protect him likewise. (He will not leave the island btw. ) This video was a good perspective with lots of details. :)
If the frontman wanted to kill his brother, he would have shot his left side closer to his heart. He was giving his brother a chance by hitting his right shoulder instead.
@@thefishguyflipper1285 So are you 18 or younger and still watched it? I'm 13 and not sure. I've watched gore, I'm fine with it but like any scenes a 13 year old shouldn't watch?
@@rennadiamond7871 It's fine, don't worry, there may be some scenes with blood you might not like, but other than that, go ahead and watch it,really one of the best shows I have seen in a while
Greatly explained. I wondered how the Front Man became a Front man after his winning. Which makes me wonder now that the host is dead, like you have speculated the game might need a new front man. I hope it’s not 456 since he was the winner. He was my fave character. Kind, helpful and showed empathy. I hope they would not lure him to the dark side if there’s ever season 2!
The subs actually put in book titles and the camera did focus on a few stuff (like the fish bowl, the books, the pictures, etc). things like that are always hints to something
That's not true. It's actually very common for set designers to do their own thing, without clearing every detail in advance with the writers/directors, when they are dressing up a set.
Loved this analysis, especially about the brothers being mirrored versions of themselves! I believe the front man constantly convinces himself that the game itself is 'fair and equal' because he has to in order to play his role, and that it's his twisted way of dealing with his trauma. The game itself is completely unfair by design because it's inhumane from the get go and they also change the rules on a whim (Sae Byeok was injured by the glass shard though she passed the round, the glassmaster wasn't allowed to continue analysing the glass, the games usually played to more masculine strengths rather than agility which in theory is allows more advantage for women, etc). But denial and unhealthy ways of coping plague him, so he continues on because the game is all he knows now. However when he finally faces his brother, his doubts rise to the surface but he ultimately chooses to 'kill' his brother, but gives him a chance to survive by shooting him in the shoulder. I think he probably leaves his body in the ocean on purpose since the guards have to listen to what he says, especially since Il Nam and the VIPs weren't there to see the gamemaster deal with an intruder. As meticulous as he is, he's conflicted enough with the whole situation, so I can imagine him purposely being sloppy in hopes his brother finds a way to live.
Yes!! When they shot the people selling to organs for giving the doctor game info beforehand bc they “made it unequal” I was like, the ONLY game that was genuinely equal was maybe red light green light (and maybe the partner marbles). None of the others were fair
That's what we said, the games are not fair or equal and the glass bridge proved that, as they turned off the lights. Though one could say the glass worker had an advantage over the others which was not fair, but then the tug of war wasn't fair if you had a team of women. Was only lucky the old man knew and told them how to win. Agree with everything else you said too.
Another flaw in the explanation fo the game and why I don’t think it’s “fair” is because it’s never said that only one person can win. Technically that isn’t the case but the game is clearly designed that one person wins as it seems every year there is one winner. People go back thinking “if I just survive every game like I did the first one, I can win some money” which is very different thinking from “I have to outlive everyone else to win”. There is no talk of brutally murdering each other during the night. These players never get the full story even after the first game. It’s not set up to be “fair” as the 5th game is total luck, and made for only the last few to be able to win. The amount of tiles/rows is probably determined after knowing how many survived to assure this. Even when the one guy could tell the glass, they made that impossible by turning off the lights. The front man might think it’s fair but I don’t really think he thinks it’s fair. I think he’s just mad that someone was getting help just like he was mad that the guy knew to tell the glass apart. That’s really exciting and tense to see if he could tell the glass apart if you’re thinking about “entertainment” like horse racing. But he didn’t want too many people alive at the end Bc only one can survive. Hell, two games forced half the players to die. Technically the last game did as well. No matter how you spin it, it’s not fair and not consensual REALLY. Similar to how an older person/person in power can technically have sex with a minor/person under them and that person could say yes, it’s still seen as non consensual because of the power play and lack of knowledge/control on the part of the other person. It is also never fully consensual if a person can’t stop at any point. They could stop based on a vote, but individually they couldn’t stop. They all accepted their fate clearly as we can tell they had no life in a way. It’s a disturbing story.
"Another flaw in the explanation for the game and why I don’t think it’s “fair” is because it’s never said that only one person can win." That's doesn't make the games unfair. All contestants are given the same information. Yes, based on the information given, some of them might draw the wrong conclusion, but that doesn't make the game unfair.
@@zephid11 Not knowing what "elimination" actually implies, namely death, is not fair in a world where every normal game won't kill you for losing. If the first guy knew he'd die if he moved he maybe wouldn't have moved but taken the game more seriously. To fully know what you're dealing with is fair but this wasn't fair.
@@aidasabahi5813 in the beginning with the slap game, the suit guy says if you lose you can pay with your body. That should have been a sign when they got into the actual games that losing would be the same consequence, paying with your body since none of them had any money to wager. They legit wagered their own lives to win.
I think “fairness” relates to putting all the players on the same level. In this sense the games are fair. Even though only one of them survives, WHO survives and who dies is a fair competition. If “fairness” meant “ethical” or “goodness” then they’d just split the money between everybody and no one would die...
@@ltlrms then there would be no competition. In real life, you have to fight for it, you don't even know what will happen next. You are discriminated. But in the game, it's like in real life but you have equality.
Still can’t get over the sad yet beautiful loved story he shared with go ae shin in Mr Sunshine 🙃an amazing actor loved him in squid game can’t wait for season 2😍
@@rubenchacko3444 It's always easy to first release it and then fix your errors in the next season. All that can be said for now is that your statement is not true because actually the script writing is pretty standard, at times even sloppy but because the hype is so big people read some unheard of deeper meaning behind everything ^^
Another reason that the first Game was in 1988 could be because in 1988 South Korea hosted the summer Olympics. Olympics being the biggest sports event and the Squid Game being another sports event only with death being the consequence of losing. Also the Olympics could have been a sort of inspiration to Il Nam to start the games.
Great video! I love the Front Man, he immediately leapt out as the most intriguing character to me! I was puzzling over that Theory of Desire clue but you explained it really well! 👍
If the Front Man takes Il-nam's place and then tries to take Gi-Hun as his "apprentice", that would be ridiculously similar to how the sith lords work in Star Wars. I think that would be too far removed from the reality of the characters, that this show presented so perfectly so far.
I have a theory, might be the best one, as the script secretly portrays the front man to be of a dual personality, the one we see during the red light green light, and the one we see when he hallucinates about his brother being shot when he asked, “why“, his brother asking this question who has known him for years indicates that the front man isnt a bad guy, he has a motive, a reason to do all this which is yet hidden from the audience, and as the director also said that the second season will be about the front man, maybe the front man after winning in 2015 found out that the games were much bigger than to be handled by just the state police, so he decides to work for Ilnam to know more about the games(Detective 101), maybe he is working on something for years and pretending to be the right hand of Ilnam who trusts him to be believing what he himself believed till the end, but the front man cant just stop his motive at this point and shot his brother on the shoulder(on purpose) so that he lives, he asked his brother to come with him, not for the game, but probably for the secret motive he’s working on to destroy the games as he was a cop/detective too who was convicted of bribes and wants to clear his bad image as well in the society. All of this gives his character automatically more screen time as the director himself confirmed it recently. I even think that the front man will turn out to be the bigger protagnist than Gi-hun
@@seeyafornow2642 Il-Nam lived through Seoul's first summer Olympic event, so he also drew inspirations from international competition. Hence the VIPs from all over the world.
squid game theory: the frontman agreed to become the frontman only with one condition that there will be equality because he lost a friend to inequality
His deluded speech about the games being true equality and his advise to think about the experience as a dream screams traumatised. He seemed to be restraining himself around the vips and not liking them at all. Being stoic and saying rehearsed lines seems to be copping mechanism.
Front man clearly seems to be very inspired by Darth vader. Mercilessly killing his own men,strictly enforcing the rule and being the right arm of an old mastermind. Also he was a cop (servant of justice)who go to a darker side. Also the confrontation between the 2 brother remind me the vader VS luke fight in Ep5,with vader asking luke to join him only for luke to refuse and fall after vader reveals his true identity.
@@pleb8154 I am totally ok with that. The squid game organisation with masqued guard without mercy directed by a mysterious men in black is heavily inspired by authoritarian regim and Star wars nailed the iconization of such a regime in pop culture with the Empire so it's totaly normal to take inspiration from it (and it works, Squid game guards are already iconic)
My theory is that the front man went back to kill the front man that orchestrated the squid game he was involved in, but there is some kind of underlying rule that if you kill the front man, you become the front man which is sadly where we might see Gi Hun end up
I don't think that the frontman really enjoys the games tbh. I was surprised at his appearance when he took off his mask. He has bags under his eyes and looks haggard and fatigued. I was concerned about gihun's future life post win after seeing a previous winner look so haggard. Eye bags are not usually so defined in Korean shows unless the character is being portrayed in a miserable/desolate light. And there is always an emphasis on fresh skin/appearance. Just like you said, when the frontman looks in the mirror he sees his brother but it's alarming because they do not mirror each other instead they give off a different aura. Loved the video btw!
I expect that he wanted to end the squid games too but realized it was impossible to end it and came to the realization that the best thing he could possibly ever do is make sure that the game was always fair for everyone and why he held to that simple rule and I expect we will see that same outcome out of our main character. For all we know maybe not all the squid games are played fair the elite point out in a way that not all these games are done the same.
I'm a korean. Frontman's profile: Graduated from Police University. National Police Agency / investigation department. - 7 years Seoul Metropolitan Police Agency / Criminal Division - 7 years Police station chief. - 2 years
@@leftofyou if this really is the case, the fact that they did some unspeakable things to her before incinerating her alive makes that scene so much more fucked up.
@@angelaoriel5912 I don't remember how they killed her but I think it was before harvesting her organs if I remember correctly one was complaining the person only had one kidney and that made the cop think it was his brother until one of the guards confessed it was a woman.
I’m fully convinced we’ll see a much more intense brother vs brother fight in the future (assuming we’re getting a season 2) cause the one we got was mildly anticlimactic. Front man definitely had reservations about killing his own little brother (I mean, he even gave the dude his kidney) so he just shot him in the shoulder. We didn’t get a confirmed death.
Only one mistake, the donor has one kidney left, the receiver has 3 kidneys. You don't remove the the malfunctioning kidneys you connects a third to the others to have a sort of insurance if the third malfunctions you know the others is working if dialysis is needed. If a new transplant is needed you remove the third kidney and put in a new one, but you still will have three kidneys.
just fyi- the creator has confirmed he has no plans for a season 2. not denying the fact there could be a possibility (given that it’s still #1, and extremely popular) but there’s not one planned or in motion.
@@covvyy oh my god can you not read. and just because netflix wants another season doesn’t mean the creator wants to make one. how bout you do a little research than act like you know every move of a corporation is gonna make.
Here's a big question. When Frontman sat in his office drinking wine and watching the game, was he enjoying the game, or was he thinking, "Here we go again", and numbing himself?
I'm sorry but you can tell he's enjoying watching them play red light green light because why would someone who isn't enjoying himself running these games just pour himself a scotch, put on Fly Me to the Moon and settle down to watch the rest of the game play out?
Actually he could be desensitising himself from the situation in front of him. Replacing his senses with the opposite of what's occuring in front of him - creating a calming relaxed environment away from all the death. Either our theories could be true though.
Jun-Ho to Front Man: You killed my brother! Front Man: No Jun-Ho, I AM YOUR BROTHER. Front Man takes off mask. I referred to Front Man as Darth Vader, anyone else? Good reasoning here. Let's see what happens as we find out more about him.
I wouldn't particularly say that #1 is running all the games. We see him wearing a golden owl mask, similar to the other VIPs and their animal masks. So we can safely assume that he is a VIP just like all of them. On top of that, when he is in the bed and reveals everything to the main character, he says that there others like him, likely referring to the other VIPs. And lastly, the other VIPs doesn't appear to be Korean, when watching with original Korean audio they are the only characters that speak English, even with different accents from each other. Which makes me think they are the #1s of their country and they each have their own "frontman" or person like them to run the games
The frontman ruthlessly kills some of his workers, for showing their face and breaking the rules. Yet, he specifically asks for the intruder to be brought to him alive.
What a brillant and detail oriented analysis! My own grain of salt. Maybe the front man wants to end the games but as it's going on on an international level and involving very powerful people it will be hard to destroy . The police will most likely look the other way so he had to infiltrate the highest ranks and make powerful allies himself to stop it . His brother was naive to think that sending a few videos would be enough to end it .
@Nick Gurr yeah probably they'd probably also kill anyone who had cookie crumbs of visiting the page...which was his chief so only he probably saw them
Yeah, given a glimpse of the conscience still present within him, this is wishful thinking. People who have facilitated despicable acts can still human, composed of both good and evil, and willingly remain complicit. There's really no reason to believe the front man wants to stop the games, even if it has seemingly caused him pain and psychological deterioration. I also didn't witness when he made allies powerful enough to entertain that thought. As long as there's debt, and victims consumed by it, entities like Squid Game will still exist...so a definitive end is unforeseeable and pointless to theorize with show's true to life approach.
Theres another lightbulb moment! We figured out they were brothers was after the front man speaks English on the phone; front man sighs, then policeman sighs in the exact same way. Surprised I haven't seen a video this was mentioned in!
Ok theory: Before shooting Jun-ho, the Frontman reminds him that a standard police firearm holds 3 live rounds, an empty chamber, and a blank. Being a former cop himself, he might still have kept his own gun this way, shooting his brother with the blank to knock him off the cliff, but not mortally wound him. If I remember right, I think Jun-ho also jumps off a bridge into deep water in an earlier episode like it's nothing, and he's clearly a capable diver, so I'm fairly certain he's not dead.
A blank round only generates a muzzle flash and the sound of a bullet being fired, it doesn't actually fire a projectile of any kind, and we clearly see the impact and the blood splatter when he bullet hits.
But Frontman has a version of M1911, not a revolver, so he can't choose a chamber to shoot. But he anyway shoots his brother in the shoulder, implying that this is not a fatal wound
What doesn’t make sense is why the frontman would miss out on their rent payments? They have money and knew that they would be away for the games... almost seems like he wanted to attract attention
With the old man dead, Front man could become the VIP in the next season and Gi-hun could come back to become the next Front man since he is also a winner (as an undercover agent ofc) !!
That's kind what I thought, especially coz year 1 winner was like 174 or something, even if that was the last number that's still around a third of the contestants, which logically wouldnt fit in just a book if the newer games take up whole shelfs
I believe the front man is just like Sung. He’s in it to put a complete stop to the games. Sacrifice a few to put a complete end to it all. And I believe he shot his brother precisely where he wanted to where no crucial ligaments would be effected. The frontman is deep undercover.
Good analysis. This is prolly the first one that didn't wanna make me tear my face off. I think I'm honestly happy if they leave the show here because by time people are done picking it apart, they probably won't have any decent plot routes to take.
As a Jigsaw fan, almost all of the revelation weren’t as suprising as intended. I called ep 1 that the player 001 was part of the leader crew, but I assume that the brother revelation was a real surpise. I was kinda disappointed at the third game tho where we discovered that the games are intended to reduce the number of participants. With the first and second one, we have the idea that everyone can be alive and have the chances to win, but with the third and fourth one, our expectations for this are gone. It is logical as a distraction for spectators, but not as a way to teach something to the participants.
Yep, the tug of war game and marbles game effectively reduce the player count by half each time so even if every player survived the redlight/green light and that cookie game, it would still be a guaranteed 100%>25% drop off
yeah i was thinking about this as well. I guess it's like you do anything to survive, you're accountable for your safety. the game will just make sure everyone is equally unsafe lmao
@@nlrenzo9432 Technically they all had the opportunity to choose the triangle, they just didnt know what they were choosing, but they all had the chance.
Once the frontman found out there was a glass maker among the contestants, he killed the lights so that he couldn't see the difference between the strong glass and the weak glass anymore.
Non lethal shoulder shots are classic movie talk for "this character will return"
Its possible and probably the case seeing as like you said its classic movie talk but then again he did shoot his brother near the heart and that was a long fall so who knows
Also before he was shot in the shoulder the Camera pans down to the cliffs edge that’s crumbling off with his foot on the edge to me that is a hint he planned falling off the cliff this way to survive
I'm so confused, after the police guy gets shot we get a scene of them two and the front man taking bullets off,is the police guy dead or alive I misunderstood everything
@@VIXANDRE1498 the front man saw his brother in the mirror. He replayed the moment that his brother asked him “why?” Flashbacks are usually due to trauma/PTSD, his brother wasn’t actually there.
@@thedarkestpath7464 thank you.
His brother is most definitely alive. All other instances of Front Man shooting someone have been instant kills
plus it goes without saying; no body, not dead. he would definitely live through the shoulder shot, too important of a character to kill like that. I'm sure he and gi hun will cross paths again in the game
he didn't even aim for the head
exactly! he always head shot others so why did he shot the shoulder in this case? he didn't want him to die
@@ahanapal4055 lol he wouldn't want his brother to die, did you watch the show?
@@ahanapal4055 its p obv he just left it up to chance. it was heavily implied that the 2 brothers had a deep and loving rs and like all the other comments said, frontman used to be in korean police and has a high sense of marksmanship, always shooting ppl in the head. junho was the only exception. frontman obv shot him in the shoulder and just left it up to chance whether he would survive or die
Theory: the Front Man's motive for participating in the Game in 2015, wasn't just to pay off his own debts. It was also to win the money his family would need to pay for his brother's medical treatment.
Imagine the stakes. Like, not only do you have the clock ticking on your brother's survival and the money for his surgery on the line. But as his donor, if you die, then your brother's last chance at life is gone too.
Imagine how desperate that would make you, what you would find yourself capable of doing, how much of your soul you would sacrifice in order to win...
Damn! This theory just made me tear up. 😭😭😭
Ah man, that makes so much sense as to why In-ho would want to play the game. Not to mention why he also disappeared afterwards. How would he explain to his family how he got so much money overnight? They may have believed that he had enough money to pay for the surgeries, but what about the money leftover?
Not to mention when he shoots Jun-ho, he aims for a non-fatal shot. It looks like Jun-ho died after he lands into the water, but he could have survived and In-ho may have predicted this. While it does look like Jun-ho fell a long ways down, it could still be potentially survivable. So In-ho may have hired a secret team to retrieve his brother in case something like that happened. In-ho does likely have a lot of money left over from winning the games.
Hermosa esposa you're too naive tbh
Pretty good theory and premise for Season 2
I wouldn't even be upset of Season 2 had flashbacks of Frontman going through his own trials of the Squid Game
What I want for season 2:
• Gi-Hun returning to the games in some way.
• Flashbacks to the frontman’s games in 2015.
• Flashbacks to when Oh Il-Nam started the games in 1988.
• Jun-Ho survives and gets police involved.
• Backstories/side-stories of VIP’s.
• Squid games in different countries.
You missed
•The story of Frontman and his brother
@@TheIntimidatorOfGames The most important thing
I would also like it if there was a scene where the facility gets raided by jun Ho and the SWAT team
And a whole new line up of twisted children's games. 😈
If the front man loved his brother enough to give him his own kidney then I doubt he’d be ruthless enough to make sure he was actually dead. I suspect he purposely aimed for a non-fatal shot and hoped he would survive.
True
do you think season 2 will reveal who is behind all this and what is its purpose?
@@fiendfnm2828 did you watch season 1
@@bighead5849 yea
@@fiendfnm2828 those questions have been answered already
He's obviously going to go to Bikini Bottom to be Squidward's house. That's why it's called Squid Game.
Badumptss
Absolute genius
BIGGEST BRAIN
Can't wait to see a full series talking about a hig detail history of every character like you did with Saw characters.
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This is the best frontman deep dive. Yo noticed all the smaller details nobody else did
Ikr
I guess you could say he has sharp eyes
Ypu*
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Smaller details, you mean like his pp? 🤣
Would love to see season 2 explore the frontmans games in 2015 and how he won in flashbacks or something
i dont recall was there a mention of 2015 in the show why does the video's author mention 2015 specifically?
@@drixjoker The frontman won that year
@@NPxLine ye but when was that mentioned in the show, maybe I missed it or don't recall
@@drixjoker in episode 5, when Junho was looking for the list of players in Frontman's room, he saw his name in a list of winners. he was the 2015 winner.
I feel like that is the only way to elongate the series, so they probably will do the Front Mans story.
We saw how traumatized and broken the squid games made Gi-Hun.
No doubt the same happened to the Front Man.
Still doesn't make sence even if he went threw the same shi and won 40billion why would he want to spectate that shi again and have to respect the "VIPS" lmao
@@xedsity Because the guy has nothing left.
@@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343 Wdym nothing left 40 Billion ?
@@xedsity The money is obviously meaningless in comparison to the PTSD, depression, and trauma that is gained from being in the games and surviving as evidenced by Gi Hun.
To win the Squid Game, every winner has to go through a lot of death and emotional trauma. The marble game and the final round are explicitly designed to do so. It changes the person. Maybe he changed so much he couldn't go back to his old life. Having done what he did to win.
Yeah but he did go back to his own life 😂😂
Marble game was exactly designed for that purpose. After the tug of war, players figured out the importance of a good team and their bond deepened. By giving them the option to pick just one teammate for the marble game, it made them choose the person they were deeply linked to and loved among all and by forcing them to fight each other to live.. it changed them entirely.. that's why episode 6 was so heartbreaking.. they all came out looking haunted...
Hi, thanks for the love and support
@@Yasi_nzi The gangster didn't come out looking haunted lol
You mean they lost their MARBLES?
My theory is that being a former police officer he had seen many unequal treatment in Korean society in which the rich and powerful can get away with crimes in which a normal person who would have been jailed instantly and maybe he had been made a scapegoat of a bribery case when he try to be a whistleblower or something to discredit him. Experiencing all these, he became a true believer of the games in which everyone had equal chance to win.
Wow!!!
As i have watched tons of kdramas, its very highly likely that the frontman actually being accused for bribery for something he never did actually. Based on how he handled squid game, its clear that he is very upright guy who very strict with the rules.
I believe that might become the future our protagonist too.. he goes back to fix the squid game, ends up fixing the society that's 100x more fucked up than this game
Except the inequality philosophy is flawed. These were not victims of society, these were irresponsible people who were in debt, wasted fortunes or were criminals, etc.
His philosophy would make sense if the participants were just low income people who are trying hard but can't catch a break. But they weren't.
You talking about equal chance when its the rich and powerful having fun watching the poor being killed and killing each other?😂 nah, that makes no sense
I would like to suggest that the reason the games begin in 1988 is not because of events in 1987, but rather because 1988 is an extremely important year in Korean culture. It was the year they hosted the Olympics (another international game), and was widely seen as their emergence from being "the Hermit Kingdom" to a major figure on the international scene. Indeed, for many years "Brand 88" was the most popular brand of cigarettes in the country.
Also modern Korea, the 6th republic, was founded in 1988.
Completely agree!
Thanks for the insight!!
Interesting! It was also the Year of the Dragon. Koreans are crazy about Dragon years.
ORR... I was just a coincidence.
When making a set with background and props, not every single item is scrutinised and thought over in great depth. Crews don't have infinite time and are mostly on a very tight schedule to complete the set where filming is taking place. For example... a picture on the wall might just be a random picture that they placed and has no meaning behind it but people seem to assign a deeper meaning when there is none.
I think his obsession with the "fairness/equality" of the games was a pretty obvious cope; he *has* to believe in the games' morality because he won and now runs them. He's probably suffering a mix of survivor's guilt as well as maybe some kind of gratefulness for what the games did for him.
Yeah I think he's grateful in the same way that Jigsaw's apprentices are in the Saw movies. Idk it just feels similar
The Front Man was such a badass in this series
its dr. doom
just a fun fact, in kidney transplants the defunct kidneys aren't typically removed. so the recipient has three kidneys inside their body while the donor is left with just one :D
If the person you give your kidney to so happens to croak, can you get your damn kidney back? 🤔. Asking for a friend. 🤐
@@CandieP yes you might be able to get it back but I don't think you can put it back in your body :) hope that helps
Interesting tidbit! Solid contribution
What episode is the kidney transplant?
*oh.*
This man cares about everyone but his daughter
Ikr 🤦🏼♂️
Right!
Yeah.
Y’all really don’t know anything about this show lol
lmao average dumb and confused Squid Game watcher
6:02 I disagree. I think that the Front Man was keeping that small apartment as a cover, as it would have been too suspicious if he possessed a mansion or if he lived luxuriously all of a sudden.
The Front Man does enjoy luxury, you can tell by his room in the game, or by the expensive wine he drinks.
Front man: Ah yes, the sound of dead players in the morning. (BIG SIP)
Maybe but then why does he keep his goldfish in his apartment if he never lives there?
I think he enjoys luxury but did use the apartment. It's small but tastefully decorated.
That sounds like a sound theory except in order to make that work, he should pay the rent.
I believe the old man had said he used to wear the black mask, which makes sense because the vips asked for the normal guy when they arrived. But because 001 was participating, he needed another person to wear the mask. I beloved it was his first time as the front man
Front Man: our most important principle is the fairness of the games
Also Front Man: This guy worked at a glass factory?! Turn off the lights!
But this is fair because the dude who worked at the glass factory had an unfair advantage.
😂@@tankengnam
How@@tankengnam he dedicated 30+ years of his life for that talent
The front man = Kylo Ren syndrome. He lived simple after the games (rejected the money just like our main character), planned to come back and destroy the games from the inside. Became the front man. Purposefully misses the shots on his brother to give him a chance to live while keeping his role believeable in front of the organization. He’s plotting revenge, you bet!
I kind of want a prequel to squid game where it’s 2015 and it shows the front man playing
Not until season 4
or even the 1988 squid game, a game that started it all would be interesting
@@666ruhwtf yes!!
I like the way you think
@@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2 nah, the creator said he wanted to do Front Man’s backstory for season 2
I strongly believe that the front man returned to the game for a bigger cause...He might be of a good character like Gi-hun(player 456) as he didn't use up his won money. He could have returned to stop this game permanently( like Gi-hun). He knew what his brother was unaware of. This would be a great twist and would certainly justify him shooting his brother as his ultimate aim was to stop the game but he knew that this was a very high profile thing and local cops couldn't deal with it.
or it could be that he returned because he know il name will die soon so that he takes over
Yeah cuz we can see he clearly hated the VIPS, so there may be more to it...
He has all the evidence to expose vips in the media wtf do you mean makes no sense
@@acdesegurgels8663 I am saying exactly that. He knows that this is a very high profile case and he may be collecting more informartion. We never know but I'm just making an speculation. If they can monitor a person live then it won't be that hard to manipulate with the media when such big amount is talked about.
@@acdesegurgels8663 plus they never see the real identity of any of the VIPS except for that old man which was also accidental.
‼️SPOILER AHEAD READ AT YOUR OUN RISK‼️
It’s sad to see how damage Sangi-hun became after wining and finding his mom dead,he had such a friendly and goofy personality
Let’s see for ss 2
@La_Cruz Put a spoiler alert for those who haven’t seen it!
@@axnn1 true
it was obvious he was gonna win from episode 1 coz he was the main guy.
Realised gi-hun goofy personality was also part of the reason why the old man was a favorite character.
Gihun is definitely not going to end up working for the Squid Game apparat, he’s a good person, he wanted to give up the money so Sangwoo wouldn’t die and the reason why he wasn’t spending the money was because he couldn’t get over all of the deaths he witnessed in the games, including his friends. He only started to spend the money after Il Nam died and he probably thought that the games were over but then he saw at the airport that the games are still going on, he decided to give up his happiness (to see his daughter) and to stop the game from killing more people.
I’m sure he’d do the same for Sae-byeok as well, he spent a lot of time helping people that cares less about him than he does, he gives me INFP vibes or something, and he was a broke her happy go lucky person for the most part until the games. But after the games he’s pretty much turned straight up dull, he lost everything that made him, him, and in the pursuit of money he forfeited everything that made him human. He lost his mother, he lost his childhood friend, he couldn’t even say bye to his daughter, he had to live with survivors guilt after beating all his friends at the games, so I bet his heart is too hard to be compassionate anymore. It’s possible.
@@staigenerator2949 gi hun is actually an enfp :)
and don't forget that he was since traumatized after his co worker's death
I don’t let my turtle watch TV. I guess you could call him *sheltered*
I spent a while trying to figure out what this meant and I still haven't..
I guess he'll stay confined to his shell. Oh, well. That's not swell. We'll have to post bail to get him out of jail.
Dank
@@JoeMama-kj7bq turtles have shells
You're obsessed with this too aren't you, Graenolf ? Make some more videos of this on your channel then !
I believe his brother is still alive. The Front Man has nailed dudes straight in the head multiple times, he's an ex-police officer, so he's got good aim. The fact that he didn't kills hot his brother tells me he was allowing him to survive. Coastguard potentially was called and picked him up.
Yeah. I think he is essential in season 2. If he had died, jun ho's character would be sort of.... y'know... Useless.
@@rapzkie392 the series was designed to be with only one season, don't know why is everyone hoping for a second season when it will be no one
@@HwangInhoBooNam it’s gone be a season 2
@@HwangInhoBooNam the show writer didn't think that the show was gonna be popular enough for a 2nd season, but its been revealed that he has already begun writing on it.
Are u talking about the shoulder for shoulder shot? I agree too, his brother is not dead...
We don't know when the front man gave "his kidney" to his brother. I wonder if the kidney was actually harvested from the games and the front man still has both his kidneys.
Maybe
Nah, the organ trafficking gang was shot down by the front man himself, plus it's more likely that he gave his brother his own kidney because he was family
The organ selling was not connected to the main organisation. It's a side job of criminals that are trying to get some dirty money out of the dead players. And yup, Frontman's brother said that he gave his kidney to him, so he can have only one in most cases. Anyways, yeah, it's not very good theory.
@@tailsfanteg4712 whilst this is true I'm not convinced that the front man didn't know about the trafficking, just turned a blind eye perhaps. The brother wouldn't know that it wasn't from his brother. Just a theory, I guess we'll see.
Stop eeeettt😂😂🤣🤣🤣 but it could be true
That actor Lee Byung hun is a pure genius in acting I had mixed emotions seeing him play the " front man" in squid games with a mask over his face for most of the show.
My first time watching this guy in action was in a movie called " I saw the devil" awesome film became a fan of his after that film.
I really hope we get a season 2 and maybe 3 😍💘
Awesome job deciphering the clues in the front man’s apartment. I had a crazy thought. I think the front man once wanted to take down the games like Gi-hun, but he somehow got convinced to become the front man by Il Nam. I think Il Nam “recruited” the front man like he is somehow recruiting Gi-Hun over the course of the games. I don’t think striking a friendship was coincidental. I think it was a tryout for the next front man.
Oh, I like this theory!
Il Nam is a really smart, evil psycho according to your theory. I love your theory
This sounds plausible. Gi-hun eventually becoming a new Front man.
Thanks guys!
Yes! And maybe Gi-hun's deceit in the marble game proved to Il Nam that he has what it takes.
The more I look at these explanation videos, the more I realize the work put into this series, so much attention to detail.
The front man was giving me mad Amon vibes from legend of Korra!! If they ever decide to do a live action he will be perfect to play him👏🏾👏🏾
OMG YESSS
ABSOLUTELY 🎉
I have a feeling that the game the old man played before dying, he played that with the frontman before he became the frontman and the old man won and that's why the apartment was so normal and not rich looking and the frontman saw no hope for humanity like the old man
The Front Man also ordered that the intruder be brought to him alive. Why would he make such an order only to kill his unarmed brother?
Yeah, I think the Front Man pulled his wounded brother out of the water, had him patched up, and put him in a cell for season 2.
From a writing perspective having the Front Man talk to his little brother would be a great way to get some exposition across about how the Front Man got to where he is.
opening scene, him healing his wound and zoomed in --- just a guess aha
yeah and he called him for a talk and when his brother asked why he shoted him, i think he did that because the reds was just behind then and he doesn't want to show mercy, but let him alive
The host tells the frontman he must enter his imprisoned cop brother into 2022 Squid Game to win his freedom. The frontman does everything in his power to help his brother progress through every round, without arousing suspicion.
@@jackriver1999 WHo would be the host then if Il-Nam is dead?
Director has already confirmed that s2 will be story about front man and his brother along with ddakji man(recruiter).
Thank goodness!!!
Also the guards and Squid Game and the police's investigation. Hwang may be considering getting help from a pool of writer/directors.
Woah that is awesome!!! Lee Byung Hun is a great actor!
Where did you hear this I am intrested but not sure where to find wher the Director when he confirm S2 will be about the other side?
All I’ve read is that the director/writer will not do season 2 alone, he will do it with a writers room and other directors.
My mom figured out who the Front Man was just by looking at this guys apartment.
She was like, " He reads 'Theory of Desire'...he must be one of the organisers."
And I was like sitting next to her, trying so hard not to say, "What the...how did you know?"
Squid game predictable af
Cool mom
@@TheDong604 id say it’s predictably unpredictable, the only real cliche part was sang woo saebyeok and gihun being the three finalists, they could’ve brought in more wildcard entries
The Salesman (Gong Yoo) and the Front Man (Lee Byung-hun) sold this entire show for me. Bringing in Seong Gi-hun and Oh Yeong-Su was just the icing on the cake.
I learned so much from this, not only about the series but general knowledge. Exceptional video!!!
The front mans hand is also trembeling when he pours a glas of whiskey during the redlight greenlight game. Might show he's not really comfortably during the games.
Or he may be sick
Or he’s nervous because Player 1 is in his first game and could be killed
It could be a health condition too or PTSD
for some reason I felt he had cognitive dissonance. He tells the main character to think of it as a dream, and he watched red light green light with a song to mask the gunshot sounds and with lyrics literally saying *fly me to the moon*
he hasn't coped at all. he's just taken it as part of life
Maybe he only pours scotch and makes a scene of “enjoying the show” because he knows he’s being watched. Maybe he, like his brother, is infiltrating the games.
This is the most in-depth and comprehensive guide to the Front Man that I've ever seen! Thank you so much for being so detail oriented. I love that you even broke down the art found in the Front Man's apartment. Excellent work and excellent video. Subscribed!
Seconded! All the other videos I've found talking about the show talk about just surface stuff and don't actually analyze like this!
BING
BONG
I believe he won't pull his brother out of the water but left him a fair chance to swim or die as his wound was't fatal. He could've just ended his brother there but chose not to because the Front Man's not a cruel man just trying to be fair to the game but he also can't let his own brother anywhere near the game as he would be 'eliminated'..
The Front Man's only weak spot is his brother who has never given up hope for finding him, he needs to protect him likewise. (He will not leave the island btw. ) This video was a good perspective with lots of details. :)
The island was too far from the mainland to swim, especially injured. The brother would have to pull him out.
If the frontman wanted to kill his brother, he would have shot his left side closer to his heart. He was giving his brother a chance by hitting his right shoulder instead.
c: “we need to match the rotation”
t: “it’s not possible”
c: “no, IT’S NECESSARY”
Points to document: You can see he served as a police officer
Me: Well actually I don't speak Korean.
Same! 😂 So I screen scanned @4:28 using the Google Translate app & it said “Seodaemun Police Department” 😯
Yea, we cant read Korean
Also.. when has anyone else really been shot in the shoulder? Its always a headshot. I dont think the Frontman was trying to kill his brother.
Just a question what age range is Squid Game?
@@rennadiamond7871 you need to be 18 or or above but its mostly gore so its fine if someone younger watches
@@thefishguyflipper1285 So are you 18 or younger and still watched it? I'm 13 and not sure. I've watched gore, I'm fine with it but like any scenes a 13 year old shouldn't watch?
@@rennadiamond7871 It's fine, don't worry, there may be some scenes with blood you might not like, but other than that, go ahead and watch it,really one of the best shows I have seen in a while
@@rennadiamond7871 episode 5 is very gory.
Good observation,"Both Frontman and Seong Gi-hun found no satisfaction in the money they won".
Greatly explained. I wondered how the Front Man became a Front man after his winning. Which makes me wonder now that the host is dead, like you have speculated the game might need a new front man. I hope it’s not 456 since he was the winner. He was my fave character. Kind, helpful and showed empathy. I hope they would not lure him to the dark side if there’s ever season 2!
I was actually suprised that the guy behind the mask wasn't the one who slapped people !
The guy who slapped people is just a recruiter .
Exactlyyyy! I thought it was him 😂
lol every women around the world want him in the series than anyonelse 😂
@@tomiwafaith 😂😂
@@jakebradford4272 I never saw the actor before 😂
Ive always wondered about the contents in the front mans apartment. Nothing in film is accidental
Exactly, I need to keep analyzing the small stuff!
The subs actually put in book titles and the camera did focus on a few stuff (like the fish bowl, the books, the pictures, etc).
things like that are always hints to something
That's not true. It's actually very common for set designers to do their own thing, without clearing every detail in advance with the writers/directors, when they are dressing up a set.
Loved this analysis, especially about the brothers being mirrored versions of themselves! I believe the front man constantly convinces himself that the game itself is 'fair and equal' because he has to in order to play his role, and that it's his twisted way of dealing with his trauma. The game itself is completely unfair by design because it's inhumane from the get go and they also change the rules on a whim (Sae Byeok was injured by the glass shard though she passed the round, the glassmaster wasn't allowed to continue analysing the glass, the games usually played to more masculine strengths rather than agility which in theory is allows more advantage for women, etc). But denial and unhealthy ways of coping plague him, so he continues on because the game is all he knows now. However when he finally faces his brother, his doubts rise to the surface but he ultimately chooses to 'kill' his brother, but gives him a chance to survive by shooting him in the shoulder. I think he probably leaves his body in the ocean on purpose since the guards have to listen to what he says, especially since Il Nam and the VIPs weren't there to see the gamemaster deal with an intruder. As meticulous as he is, he's conflicted enough with the whole situation, so I can imagine him purposely being sloppy in hopes his brother finds a way to live.
Yes!! When they shot the people selling to organs for giving the doctor game info beforehand bc they “made it unequal” I was like, the ONLY game that was genuinely equal was maybe red light green light (and maybe the partner marbles). None of the others were fair
That's what we said, the games are not fair or equal and the glass bridge proved that, as they turned off the lights. Though one could say the glass worker had an advantage over the others which was not fair, but then the tug of war wasn't fair if you had a team of women. Was only lucky the old man knew and told them how to win. Agree with everything else you said too.
Another flaw in the explanation fo the game and why I don’t think it’s “fair” is because it’s never said that only one person can win. Technically that isn’t the case but the game is clearly designed that one person wins as it seems every year there is one winner. People go back thinking “if I just survive every game like I did the first one, I can win some money” which is very different thinking from “I have to outlive everyone else to win”. There is no talk of brutally murdering each other during the night. These players never get the full story even after the first game. It’s not set up to be “fair” as the 5th game is total luck, and made for only the last few to be able to win. The amount of tiles/rows is probably determined after knowing how many survived to assure this. Even when the one guy could tell the glass, they made that impossible by turning off the lights. The front man might think it’s fair but I don’t really think he thinks it’s fair. I think he’s just mad that someone was getting help just like he was mad that the guy knew to tell the glass apart. That’s really exciting and tense to see if he could tell the glass apart if you’re thinking about “entertainment” like horse racing. But he didn’t want too many people alive at the end Bc only one can survive. Hell, two games forced half the players to die. Technically the last game did as well. No matter how you spin it, it’s not fair and not consensual REALLY. Similar to how an older person/person in power can technically have sex with a minor/person under them and that person could say yes, it’s still seen as non consensual because of the power play and lack of knowledge/control on the part of the other person. It is also never fully consensual if a person can’t stop at any point. They could stop based on a vote, but individually they couldn’t stop. They all accepted their fate clearly as we can tell they had no life in a way. It’s a disturbing story.
"Another flaw in the explanation for the game and why I don’t think it’s “fair” is because it’s never said that only one person can win."
That's doesn't make the games unfair. All contestants are given the same information. Yes, based on the information given, some of them might draw the wrong conclusion, but that doesn't make the game unfair.
@@zephid11 Not knowing what "elimination" actually implies, namely death, is not fair in a world where every normal game won't kill you for losing. If the first guy knew he'd die if he moved he maybe wouldn't have moved but taken the game more seriously. To fully know what you're dealing with is fair but this wasn't fair.
@@aidasabahi5813 in the beginning with the slap game, the suit guy says if you lose you can pay with your body. That should have been a sign when they got into the actual games that losing would be the same consequence, paying with your body since none of them had any money to wager. They legit wagered their own lives to win.
I think “fairness” relates to putting all the players on the same level. In this sense the games are fair. Even though only one of them survives, WHO survives and who dies is a fair competition. If “fairness” meant “ethical” or “goodness” then they’d just split the money between everybody and no one would die...
@@ltlrms then there would be no competition. In real life, you have to fight for it, you don't even know what will happen next. You are discriminated. But in the game, it's like in real life but you have equality.
Still can’t get over the sad yet beautiful loved story he shared with go ae shin in Mr Sunshine 🙃an amazing actor loved him in squid game can’t wait for season 2😍
4:56 yeah I definitely caught that, cuz we’re all so fluent in Korean 😒🤨
Kudos to the dude who had to sit behind a desk for a couple years trying to add meaningful significance to random actions and things in squid game
Well, he certainly failed in this scene with the frontman and his brother. It added 0 meaning to the plot and was just a random kill
@@TopFearless Who knows, it could be something major in season 2
@@rubenchacko3444 It's always easy to first release it and then fix your errors in the next season. All that can be said for now is that your statement is not true because actually the script writing is pretty standard, at times even sloppy but because the hype is so big people read some unheard of deeper meaning behind everything ^^
Everytime I think my respect for this series can’t grow any bigger, you come along with these amazing analyses!
Another reason that the first Game was in 1988 could be because in 1988 South Korea hosted the summer Olympics. Olympics being the biggest sports event and the Squid Game being another sports event only with death being the consequence of losing. Also the Olympics could have been a sort of inspiration to Il Nam to start the games.
Great video! I love the Front Man, he immediately leapt out as the most intriguing character to me!
I was puzzling over that Theory of Desire clue but you explained it really well! 👍
Also on the island, front man said to soldiers that he want that man alive. May be because he can save his brother.
If the Front Man takes Il-nam's place and then tries to take Gi-Hun as his "apprentice", that would be ridiculously similar to how the sith lords work in Star Wars. I think that would be too far removed from the reality of the characters, that this show presented so perfectly so far.
I mean it's not the only series to take that concept, plenty of media have used Villanous legacy stuff. The saw franchise has done it for awhile
Rise, lord Gi-Hun
@@erickamakeeaina1649 It’s funny because it reminded me of Tobi from Naruto.
The main difference is that Star Wars is fiction, this could very well be real. Rich people of the world are more than capable of doing this stuff.
@@jokerman9295 jesuits. Jesuits everywhere
I have a theory, might be the best one, as the script secretly portrays the front man to be of a dual personality, the one we see during the red light green light, and the one we see when he hallucinates about his brother being shot when he asked, “why“, his brother asking this question who has known him for years indicates that the front man isnt a bad guy, he has a motive, a reason to do all this which is yet hidden from the audience, and as the director also said that the second season will be about the front man, maybe the front man after winning in 2015 found out that the games were much bigger than to be handled by just the state police, so he decides to work for Ilnam to know more about the games(Detective 101), maybe he is working on something for years and pretending to be the right hand of Ilnam who trusts him to be believing what he himself believed till the end, but the front man cant just stop his motive at this point and shot his brother on the shoulder(on purpose) so that he lives, he asked his brother to come with him, not for the game, but probably for the secret motive he’s working on to destroy the games as he was a cop/detective too who was convicted of bribes and wants to clear his bad image as well in the society. All of this gives his character automatically more screen time as the director himself confirmed it recently. I even think that the front man will turn out to be the bigger protagnist than Gi-hun
I like your theory!
Good one ...
Genius
Hi! Can you please link us to when the director has stated that?
Brilliant! Hope they would consider this theory
1988 is Seoul Summer Olympics. That's another connection to OH IL Nam Starting the games.
can you elaborate on this? sounds interesting!
@@seeyafornow2642 Il-Nam lived through Seoul's first summer Olympic event, so he also drew inspirations from international competition. Hence the VIPs from all over the world.
@@KnockoutInvesting oh that does make sense, a nice addition I would say if the creators used this connection. thank you!
squid game theory: the frontman agreed to become the frontman only with one condition that there will be equality because he lost a friend to inequality
His deluded speech about the games being true equality and his advise to think about the experience as a dream screams traumatised. He seemed to be restraining himself around the vips and not liking them at all. Being stoic and saying rehearsed lines seems to be copping mechanism.
Front man clearly seems to be very inspired by Darth vader. Mercilessly killing his own men,strictly enforcing the rule and being the right arm of an old mastermind. Also he was a cop (servant of justice)who go to a darker side. Also the confrontation between the 2 brother remind me the vader VS luke fight in Ep5,with vader asking luke to join him only for luke to refuse and fall after vader reveals his true identity.
No, I am your brother!
I think the director said that the front man’s design was a homage to Darth Vader too
@@pleb8154 I am totally ok with that. The squid game organisation with masqued guard without mercy directed by a mysterious men in black is heavily inspired by authoritarian regim and Star wars nailed the iconization of such a regime in pop culture with the Empire so it's totaly normal to take inspiration from it (and it works, Squid game guards are already iconic)
@@johnspartan2096 yeah I’m a big Star Wars fan and I love squid game so I think the design choice is great
When he holds his hand out towards him that’s gotta be a Star Wars reference.
My theory is that the front man went back to kill the front man that orchestrated the squid game he was involved in, but there is some kind of underlying rule that if you kill the front man, you become the front man which is sadly where we might see Gi Hun end up
I don't think that the frontman really enjoys the games tbh. I was surprised at his appearance when he took off his mask. He has bags under his eyes and looks haggard and fatigued. I was concerned about gihun's future life post win after seeing a previous winner look so haggard. Eye bags are not usually so defined in Korean shows unless the character is being portrayed in a miserable/desolate light. And there is always an emphasis on fresh skin/appearance. Just like you said, when the frontman looks in the mirror he sees his brother but it's alarming because they do not mirror each other instead they give off a different aura. Loved the video btw!
I expect that he wanted to end the squid games too but realized it was impossible to end it and came to the realization that the best thing he could possibly ever do is make sure that the game was always fair for everyone and why he held to that simple rule and I expect we will see that same outcome out of our main character. For all we know maybe not all the squid games are played fair the elite point out in a way that not all these games are done the same.
I'm a korean. Frontman's profile: Graduated from Police University.
National Police Agency / investigation department. - 7 years
Seoul Metropolitan Police Agency / Criminal Division - 7 years
Police station chief. - 2 years
Jun-Ho: *takes out a guard to take his place* I did a thing!
The frontman storyline & mystery is honestly one of my favorite parts of the show
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@@leebyung-hun6433 bruh
Same lol
This video showed me just how much detail was put into squid game. Amazing! Definitely deserves the hype
There's no way they're not going to do a prequel of the Frontman's backstory on how he won a previous squid game and got to that position.
This guy is the modern day Darth Vader.
The woman they are referring to like a zombie is actually seen being put into one of the coffins early is the season.
was that the one they boarded up into the coffin that was still moving?
@@angelaoriel5912 I believe so. It fits the narrative and the show is that good with details.
@@leftofyou if this really is the case, the fact that they did some unspeakable things to her before incinerating her alive makes that scene so much more fucked up.
@@angelaoriel5912 I don't remember how they killed her but I think it was before harvesting her organs if I remember correctly one was complaining the person only had one kidney and that made the cop think it was his brother until one of the guards confessed it was a woman.
@@angelaoriel5912 they beat her to death with a pole apparently after she woke up..
I’m fully convinced we’ll see a much more intense brother vs brother fight in the future (assuming we’re getting a season 2) cause the one we got was mildly anticlimactic. Front man definitely had reservations about killing his own little brother (I mean, he even gave the dude his kidney) so he just shot him in the shoulder. We didn’t get a confirmed death.
Only one mistake, the donor has one kidney left, the receiver has 3 kidneys. You don't remove the the malfunctioning kidneys you connects a third to the others to have a sort of insurance if the third malfunctions you know the others is working if dialysis is needed. If a new transplant is needed you remove the third kidney and put in a new one, but you still will have three kidneys.
Holy shit
just fyi- the creator has confirmed he has no plans for a season 2. not denying the fact there could be a possibility (given that it’s still #1, and extremely popular) but there’s not one planned or in motion.
dude do u even know how netflix is 😂😂 it’s the most popular show on netflix rn you think they’re not rushing to make a season 2 , jeez ur slow ood
@@covvyy oh my god can you not read. and just because netflix wants another season doesn’t mean the creator wants to make one. how bout you do a little research than act like you know every move of a corporation is gonna make.
Here's a big question. When Frontman sat in his office drinking wine and watching the game, was he enjoying the game, or was he thinking, "Here we go again", and numbing himself?
this is why we're getting a season two. we have to find out what is going on in his mind and how he feels about it (his POV)
I'm sorry but you can tell he's enjoying watching them play red light green light because why would someone who isn't enjoying himself running these games just pour himself a scotch, put on Fly Me to the Moon and settle down to watch the rest of the game play out?
He doesn't enjoy the game as vips enjoys it. Instead Seems like he's statisfied with his outcome which he worked on.
박봉격무 yes but ig it still begs the question of why?
He probably needs a scotch and some music to get through it. Probably still has PTSD from the 2015 games.
@@stackonez7182 I know you're joking but he could also just not watch lol
Actually he could be desensitising himself from the situation in front of him. Replacing his senses with the opposite of what's occuring in front of him - creating a calming relaxed environment away from all the death. Either our theories could be true though.
Jun-Ho to Front Man: You killed my brother!
Front Man: No Jun-Ho, I AM YOUR BROTHER.
Front Man takes off mask.
I referred to Front Man as Darth Vader, anyone else?
Good reasoning here.
Let's see what happens as we find out more about him.
I wouldn't particularly say that #1 is running all the games. We see him wearing a golden owl mask, similar to the other VIPs and their animal masks. So we can safely assume that he is a VIP just like all of them. On top of that, when he is in the bed and reveals everything to the main character, he says that there others like him, likely referring to the other VIPs.
And lastly, the other VIPs doesn't appear to be Korean, when watching with original Korean audio they are the only characters that speak English, even with different accents from each other.
Which makes me think they are the #1s of their country and they each have their own "frontman" or person like them to run the games
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exactly.
There was a Chinese VIP
I agree with this idea, even if he did start the squid game in korea other countries would need their own "host" VIPs and their own front men
@@lowbird7947 I didn’t notice this specifically, what mask were they wearing
This might be the best analysis of a SG character I've seen on YT so far!
The frontman ruthlessly kills some of his workers, for showing their face and breaking the rules. Yet, he specifically asks for the intruder to be brought to him alive.
What a brillant and detail oriented analysis! My own grain of salt. Maybe the front man wants to end the games but as it's going on on an international level and involving very powerful people it will be hard to destroy . The police will most likely look the other way so he had to infiltrate the highest ranks and make powerful allies himself to stop it . His brother was naive to think that sending a few videos would be enough to end it .
Those few videos would obviously prove it dude....XD you don't even know what that would mean for evidence
@Nick Gurr yeah probably they'd probably also kill anyone who had cookie crumbs of visiting the page...which was his chief so only he probably saw them
Yeah, given a glimpse of the conscience still present within him, this is wishful thinking. People who have facilitated despicable acts can still human, composed of both good and evil, and willingly remain complicit. There's really no reason to believe the front man wants to stop the games, even if it has seemingly caused him pain and psychological deterioration. I also didn't witness when he made allies powerful enough to entertain that thought. As long as there's debt, and victims consumed by it, entities like Squid Game will still exist...so a definitive end is unforeseeable and pointless to theorize with show's true to life approach.
My mom pointed out that In-Ho shoots the oxygen tank to warn Jun-Ho that he and the soldiers are coming after him.
Or so he can’t get away...
Theres another lightbulb moment! We figured out they were brothers was after the front man speaks English on the phone; front man sighs, then policeman sighs in the exact same way. Surprised I haven't seen a video this was mentioned in!
I'm so lost, what episode is this from?
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Wow, this video was amazing! Made me appreciate their attention to detail even more!
I love the actor Lee byung hun as front man. I'd watch an entire series starring just him.
Ok theory: Before shooting Jun-ho, the Frontman reminds him that a standard police firearm holds 3 live rounds, an empty chamber, and a blank. Being a former cop himself, he might still have kept his own gun this way, shooting his brother with the blank to knock him off the cliff, but not mortally wound him. If I remember right, I think Jun-ho also jumps off a bridge into deep water in an earlier episode like it's nothing, and he's clearly a capable diver, so I'm fairly certain he's not dead.
A blank round only generates a muzzle flash and the sound of a bullet being fired, it doesn't actually fire a projectile of any kind, and we clearly see the impact and the blood splatter when he bullet hits.
@@zephid11 Drat. Hole in my theory. Still convinced he's alive though.
But Frontman has a version of M1911, not a revolver, so he can't choose a chamber to shoot. But he anyway shoots his brother in the shoulder, implying that this is not a fatal wound
@@f-man3274 non fatal... tell it to abraham lincoln
@@jeskrythiono4484 Lincoln was shot in the head not the shoulder
This was an amazing analysis
Thank you so much Josh Cepeda!
The symbol of the soldier, Circle=Common Soldier, Triangle=Henchman, Square=The Peace Talker nah just kidding. and X is the Front Man, PlayStations.
What doesn’t make sense is why the frontman would miss out on their rent payments? They have money and knew that they would be away for the games... almost seems like he wanted to attract attention
Maybe he wasn't planning on coming back this time?
@@adinakruijssen3056 why would they do that?
With the old man dead, Front man could become the VIP in the next season and Gi-hun could come back to become the next Front man since he is also a winner (as an undercover agent ofc) !!
This is gooodd
Yeah but idk if its true or not so lets waitnfor season two🙈
@@bruhnumber12 I hope it’s not in a year
@@killersg.8290 ofc its gonna be in a year these shows are not easy to make
@@therealsteel1634 well the wild update has only 40 features, so it shouldn’t take a year to develop
The whole shelf of files for 2020 can't be just for 456 players. Surely this means the games happen once a fortnight or something?
That's kind what I thought, especially coz year 1 winner was like 174 or something, even if that was the last number that's still around a third of the contestants, which logically wouldnt fit in just a book if the newer games take up whole shelfs
Some trans bloggers have criticized the show for not having trans or racial diversity. I hope these writers end up in a real-life Squid Game.
I believe the front man is just like Sung. He’s in it to put a complete stop to the games. Sacrifice a few to put a complete end to it all. And I believe he shot his brother precisely where he wanted to where no crucial ligaments would be effected. The frontman is deep undercover.
I think he came back as an agent to join this games and find out more about it and when this is true his brother could live
Interesting theory!
Just binged the series and you’re about the 16th video I clicked on but this was the most out of bounds theory, and I dig it. Great stuff
When the front man greets the vips he says "this facility ". Definitely hinting at multiple facilities.
Oh yeh!! Youre smart I remember him saying that 😱
Good analysis. This is prolly the first one that didn't wanna make me tear my face off. I think I'm honestly happy if they leave the show here because by time people are done picking it apart, they probably won't have any decent plot routes to take.
As a Jigsaw fan, almost all of the revelation weren’t as suprising as intended. I called ep 1 that the player 001 was part of the leader crew, but I assume that the brother revelation was a real surpise.
I was kinda disappointed at the third game tho where we discovered that the games are intended to reduce the number of participants. With the first and second one, we have the idea that everyone can be alive and have the chances to win, but with the third and fourth one, our expectations for this are gone. It is logical as a distraction for spectators, but not as a way to teach something to the participants.
Yep, the tug of war game and marbles game effectively reduce the player count by half each time so even if every player survived the redlight/green light and that cookie game, it would still be a guaranteed 100%>25% drop off
Reminds me of the saw movie where it's revealed they all could've easily survived if they had just worked together.
Except the rules weren’t fair for the guy who made glass and when they exploded the glass which almost took out a contestant who had passed that test
yeah i was thinking about this as well. I guess it's like you do anything to survive, you're accountable for your safety. the game will just make sure everyone is equally unsafe lmao
Lights out affected all players equally. When they say ‘equality’, they mean *same rules for all players,* not whether a rule is fair or not.
Also honeycomb wasnt fair because of certain shapes being harder then others.
@@nlrenzo9432 Technically they all had the opportunity to choose the triangle, they just didnt know what they were choosing, but they all had the chance.
Once the frontman found out there was a glass maker among the contestants, he killed the lights so that he couldn't see the difference between the strong glass and the weak glass anymore.