Morgoth didn't create the balrogs. They were maiar (like Sauron or Saruman or Gandalf) created by Eru Iluvatar. They chose to follow Morgoth and were corrupted.
I didn’t mean to imply that Morgoth literally created the Balrogs from nothing. What I was getting at is that the Balrogs were originally Maiar who were corrupted and twisted by Morgoth into the terrifying beings they became. They were indeed created by Eru Ilúvatar, but Morgoth played a key role in their transformation into his servants.”
Basically, evil Maiar. The way I think about it the Vallar are Higher Angels and the Maiar are Lesser Angels. Melkor is a an evil Vallar, a fallen High Angel, like Lucifer.
If it were done by video game developers and writers it would probably be done extremely well. Most game movies are better than actual shows or movies.
@@blaydeesy2005 No Shadow of Mordor was completely lore breaking and that's probably one of the best LOTR games. LOTR online is good but also has issues.
Thank you so much for the kind words! I’m thrilled you enjoyed the overview of Morgoth’s minions. There’s a lot of dark history behind those ‘Big Bads,’ and I’m glad it resonated with you. Stay tuned for more deep dives into Middle-earth!
These stories come out of the Silmarillion and the appendix after the return of the king. You get a much deeper knowledge of LOTR adding these in,. Or read the books.. all 5
@@MouthyMiriam Totally agree! The Silmarillion and the appendices really deepen your understanding of LOTR. Reading all 5 books gives you the full picture of Tolkien's world!
“Just to clear up any confusion-I was referring to most of the Balrogs being killed during the War of Wrath. Gothmog, the Lord of the Balrogs, died earlier during the Fall of Gondolin, as mentioned in The Silmarillion. My point was about the remaining Balrogs who were defeated or went into hiding after the War of Wrath.”
@@SWOTHDRA That is not how Sauron worked. He was more deadly when he was manipulating and waging battles from afar. That is just how Sauron was, working from the shadows is often better if you are a being of the Sauron's power. He was the most powerful Maiar after all. Sauron could indeed do battle though if he had to.
The First Age has always been available to create the most epic movie trilogy or fantasy series of all time. The fantastic stories and immense characters are there, no need to write anything. The First Age was the best. Things became a bit "soft" after that.
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While Sauron did play a major role in creating and commanding werewolves, we can’t forget that he was acting under Morgoth’s power. Morgoth, as the original Dark Lord, corrupted much of Middle-earth, giving Sauron the ability to bring these creatures into existence. So in a way, Morgoth’s influence is still behind the werewolves.
@@Taleof_fellowship yes I understand that Morgoth’s influence was far reaching and long enduring but it was by the designs of Sauron that werewolves were truly created.
@@Taleof_fellowship It thought so, as the voice heavily reminds me of the voice that narrates the backstory of the races in World of Warcraft when you create a new character. Good job though, I really enjoyed it nonetheless!
I really dislike the fact that Tolkien wrote origin of orcs like that. Unlike Sauron or Morgoth, they didn't choose to be evil, the choice was made for them, again, with none of their free will involved. It's really sad to think about, imo it would have been better if instead of them being captured and tortured, they were swayed into willingly joining the ranks of Morgoth, or at the very least tricked into it.
That’s an interesting point! Tolkien’s depiction of orcs definitely raises questions about free will and the nature of evil. It’s tragic how their fate was shaped, but I think that makes their story even more complex. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!.
Exactly! Morgoth couldn’t create life, only distort what was already there. He poured his malice into existing beings, twisting them into orcs, trolls, and other dark creatures. It’s a key theme in Tolkien’s works-evil can only corrupt, not create.
Good point! Sauron was more into manipulation and magic, while Balrogs were all about brute force. That’s why he stayed Sauron and didn’t turn into a Balrog.
@@Taleof_fellowship Thanks but also another question the balrogs were also maiar and they participated in the great song (sorry I don't know the exact name ) then how were they only brute force they should have at least some amount of intellect?
@@LaggerGaming- The Balrogs were indeed intelligent, being Maiar like Sauron. However, after their corruption by Morgoth, their minds became consumed by a desire for destruction and violence. They still had their intellect, but their focus shifted to serving Morgoth’s will as terrifying enforcers, which is why they seem more about brute force than cunning.
Tolkien went way into the dark recesses of the human soul when he wrote the First Age. It's hard to believe such a normal looking man could conjure such utterly twisted and evil characters.
Tolkien really did have an incredible ability to tap into the darker aspects of human nature. The First Age stories are so intense because they reflect the complex battle between light and darkness.
@aldunlop4622 well not only did Tolkien participate in World War I, he was involved in the Battle of the Somme, one of the bloodiest battles of the whole war. So I’m sure he witnessed many terrible things which gave him the insight to create such a dark group of characters.
Tolkien’s languages are full of little pronunciation details like that. The hard ‘G’ definitely makes it sound stronger, which fits well for a ship as legendary as Vingilot!
@Taleof_fellowship Indeed. Possibly I am incorrect in this case, but I know ow every name that started "Cele-" was pronounced "Kelluh-". I do think VinGilot is more powerful in its sound, though.
@bekongwu602 you're pathetic lol imagine saying this story sucks or is pathetic but you're here talking about it? Lmao get a hobby. Also name something good if this story sucks I'll wait. You tried to be edgy/funny weeks later 0 likes and this is your first comment... well done 🤡
I liked how the game shadow of mordor treated Shelob. I feel Tolkien did ordinary spiders a grave disservice by making them evil. Many people, after reading Tolkien, would've seen real spiders as evil and monstrous. But without spiders, the world would end. They're in fact an essential part of the ecology. So now, i never kill spiders if i can help it. They benefit this world more than humans do. As for Sauron the Moron, he must be the dumbest villain in the history of fiction to put so much of his power in sonething so small and easily lost as a ring - and even more stupid, bring it to a battlefield! I mean, did he really need it with him? Huge, gaping plot hole in my opinion. What an idiot.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! It’s interesting how ‘Shadow of Mordor’ added new dimensions to Shelob’s character. Tolkien’s portrayal of spiders certainly left a lasting impression, but you’re absolutely right about their vital role in ecology. As for Sauron, there’s definitely a lot of debate on his decisions. Some might argue his arrogance was his downfall, thinking no one could possibly resist the Ring’s power. But your take on it is certainly valid
Blame the idiot writer. Though all of history , real writers talked about powefull legendary weapons or armor. This weirdo (Tolkien) was obsessed with rings and jewels 🤣.
Morgoth didn't create the balrogs. They were maiar (like Sauron or Saruman or Gandalf) created by Eru Iluvatar. They chose to follow Morgoth and were corrupted.
I didn’t mean to imply that Morgoth literally created the Balrogs from nothing. What I was getting at is that the Balrogs were originally Maiar who were corrupted and twisted by Morgoth into the terrifying beings they became. They were indeed created by Eru Ilúvatar, but Morgoth played a key role in their transformation into his servants.”
He clothed these Maiar in flesh, turning them from angels to demons. In that sense, "created" would apply.
true they wre mair like others but they were currupted by morgoth to be formed into become balrogs
Basically, evil Maiar. The way I think about it the Vallar are Higher Angels and the Maiar are Lesser Angels. Melkor is a an evil Vallar, a fallen High Angel, like Lucifer.
@@Svensk7119 Yeah, I always think of them (the Vallar and Maiar) as higher and lesser Angels when I read The Silmarillion, so my head doesn't hurt:)
The first age would make one amazing tv series if done correctly.
That would be incredible! I just hope it doesn’t end up like Rings of Power though.
It would never be done correctly....so pray it does never come to our screens
God no. Leave the rest of Tolkien’s works untouch, we already have LOTR & The Hobbit.
If it were done by video game developers and writers it would probably be done extremely well. Most game movies are better than actual shows or movies.
@@blaydeesy2005 No Shadow of Mordor was completely lore breaking and that's probably one of the best LOTR games. LOTR online is good but also has issues.
This was a great overview of the Big Bads. Masterful. I personally loved it.
Thank you so much for the kind words! I’m thrilled you enjoyed the overview of Morgoth’s minions. There’s a lot of dark history behind those ‘Big Bads,’ and I’m glad it resonated with you. Stay tuned for more deep dives into Middle-earth!
@@Taleof_fellowship Ungoliant is going to come after you for including Her as one of Morgoth's servants! You said ally but She is not forgiving :D
Man I never knew how much history there is in this story. I wish there was so much more though
If they made a series of the stories it would be running for many years.
I love learning about LOR lore & history, so many things left out or not told yet in film. Please keep them coming because I need more please.
Thank you for your support! It's awesome to know that you're as passionate about the lore as I am. I’ll definitely keep the content coming!
These stories come out of the Silmarillion and the appendix after the return of the king. You get a much deeper knowledge of LOTR adding these in,. Or read the books.. all 5
@@MouthyMiriam Totally agree! The Silmarillion and the appendices really deepen your understanding of LOTR. Reading all 5 books gives you the full picture of Tolkien's world!
Very thorough and insightful. 👍
Thank you for your positive feedback glad you liked it!
Wow dude good stuff, excellent narration in the format of storytelling....
Thank You for your positive feedback!
Earendil was a total badass, and Elrond's dad.
Kinda all handed to him tho, not a born badass like fingolfin, fingon or finrod
Would be interesting to see films from first age. Would love to see a film for Turin it’s a good story even with its tough ending.
the war of wrath movie would be 🔥
Good video especially the sound design that i liked alot, just in the next few videos try to add some more details to clarify certain things
Thanks, will do!
Gothmog wasnt killed in the war of wrath, but in gondolin
“Just to clear up any confusion-I was referring to most of the Balrogs being killed during the War of Wrath. Gothmog, the Lord of the Balrogs, died earlier during the Fall of Gondolin, as mentioned in The Silmarillion. My point was about the remaining Balrogs who were defeated or went into hiding after the War of Wrath.”
Sauron is his most loyal servant still. When he was in numenor he srarted a cult that offered human sacrifices to Morgoth.
Totally! Sauron was super loyal to Morgoth, and starting that cult in Númenor shows just how far he’d go to keep his master’s influence alive.
Gothmog is more loyal, Sauron was never on the battlefield when it really mattered
@@SWOTHDRA That is not how Sauron worked. He was more deadly when he was manipulating and waging battles from afar. That is just how Sauron was, working from the shadows is often better if you are a being of the Sauron's power. He was the most powerful Maiar after all. Sauron could indeed do battle though if he had to.
@@SWOTHDRAPoliticians never are doing battle but they get more ppl killed.
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing narration ! Please create more vidds
Thank You for your positive comment i will have a great day!.
Cool video. Thank you 😊
You are welcome ❤️
I read the caption, and none of Morgoths minions were loyal. That's the point.
The First Age has always been available to create the most epic movie trilogy or fantasy series of all time. The fantastic stories and immense characters are there, no need to write anything. The First Age was the best. Things became a bit "soft" after that.
totally agree 👍🏼
A smart Troll is a parties worst nightmare.
A clever troll can really throw a wrench in the fun. It's always good to be prepared for those unexpected party crashers!
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Sauron Master of Manipulation and Deceit but failed to gaslight an old baddie.
Plot twist*
Guess even the Dark Lord has his limits when it comes to seasoned baddies.
Ohh. Ok. As a HUGE ( Obsessed ) Vampire fan i had no, single clue that there actually where Vampires in tolkiens work😮🤯 awsome! And one ( female of all🤩) served sauron as an agent?! THE HYPE TRAIN IS GOING FAST RIGHT NOW!!🔥🔥🔥
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@@Taleof_fellowship great! Love it!
Sauron created the werewolves not Morgoth. That’s why one of Sauron’s titles was Lord of Werewolves.
While Sauron did play a major role in creating and commanding werewolves, we can’t forget that he was acting under Morgoth’s power. Morgoth, as the original Dark Lord, corrupted much of Middle-earth, giving Sauron the ability to bring these creatures into existence. So in a way, Morgoth’s influence is still behind the werewolves.
@@Taleof_fellowship yes I understand that Morgoth’s influence was far reaching and long enduring but it was by the designs of Sauron that werewolves were truly created.
Shoutout to Valentino from elevenlabs
Yes, i see you are using the same 'Valentino' :)
It’s narrated so evenly, I almost thought it was an AI voice. It’s not, right??
Yes, it’s AI-generated! I’m experimenting with AI for narration to ensure consistency and clarity. Glad you enjoyed it!
@@Taleof_fellowship It thought so, as the voice heavily reminds me of the voice that narrates the backstory of the races in World of Warcraft when you create a new character. Good job though, I really enjoyed it nonetheless!
Thanks so much! Glad to see a fellow WoW player.
I really dislike the fact that Tolkien wrote origin of orcs like that. Unlike Sauron or Morgoth, they didn't choose to be evil, the choice was made for them, again, with none of their free will involved. It's really sad to think about, imo it would have been better if instead of them being captured and tortured, they were swayed into willingly joining the ranks of Morgoth, or at the very least tricked into it.
That’s an interesting point! Tolkien’s depiction of orcs definitely raises questions about free will and the nature of evil. It’s tragic how their fate was shaped, but I think that makes their story even more complex. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!.
You all realize that the lord of the rings is very very biblical...
Yeah Tolkien was a very religious catholic and it's not a secret that much of his story is inspired by the biblical accounts
That's why it sucks I guess... All poetry and songs, no philosophy that is sound
Nobody fu-ing cares. You can view it like that and others can view it how they view it.
I understood it as morgoth could not create life. Just twist already existent life or spirits to a mockery or dark form.
Exactly! Morgoth couldn’t create life, only distort what was already there. He poured his malice into existing beings, twisting them into orcs, trolls, and other dark creatures. It’s a key theme in Tolkien’s works-evil can only corrupt, not create.
If all the other corrupt maiar became balrogs why didn't it affecr sauron and why didn't he turn into a balrog?
Good point! Sauron was more into manipulation and magic, while Balrogs were all about brute force. That’s why he stayed Sauron and didn’t turn into a Balrog.
@@Taleof_fellowship Thanks but also another question the balrogs were also maiar and they participated in the great song (sorry I don't know the exact name ) then how were they only brute force they should have at least some amount of intellect?
@@LaggerGaming- The Balrogs were indeed intelligent, being Maiar like Sauron. However, after their corruption by Morgoth, their minds became consumed by a desire for destruction and violence. They still had their intellect, but their focus shifted to serving Morgoth’s will as terrifying enforcers, which is why they seem more about brute force than cunning.
Sauron wasnt part of the first group of Maiar that turned to Morgoth. Only the very first that followed Morgoth were made Balrogs.
Love the Warcraft Music intro
haha, glad to see a fellow wow player!.
Tolkien went way into the dark recesses of the human soul when he wrote the First Age. It's hard to believe such a normal looking man could conjure such utterly twisted and evil characters.
Tolkien really did have an incredible ability to tap into the darker aspects of human nature. The First Age stories are so intense because they reflect the complex battle between light and darkness.
@aldunlop4622 well not only did Tolkien participate in World War I, he was involved in the Battle of the Somme, one of the bloodiest battles of the whole war. So I’m sure he witnessed many terrible things which gave him the insight to create such a dark group of characters.
@@ligerzero9840 Yeah, I'm sure it did, including dead bodies left to rot and flooded with the rains, hence the Dagorlad Plain in the books.
I have always pronounced Vingilot with a hard "g". "Guh", not "juh" or "yuh".
Tolkien’s languages are full of little pronunciation details like that. The hard ‘G’ definitely makes it sound stronger, which fits well for a ship as legendary as Vingilot!
@Taleof_fellowship Indeed. Possibly I am incorrect in this case, but I know ow every name that started "Cele-" was pronounced "Kelluh-".
I do think VinGilot is more powerful in its sound, though.
what about STEPHEN LEE?
With all that power the sucker still failed. Fantasy can be so pathetic
@bekongwu602 you're pathetic lol imagine saying this story sucks or is pathetic but you're here talking about it? Lmao get a hobby. Also name something good if this story sucks I'll wait. You tried to be edgy/funny weeks later 0 likes and this is your first comment... well done 🤡
The voice is nice, but seems AI
Yes, it’s AI! You’d be surprised how many UA-camrs are using them now-it’s a great tool if you know how to use it!
I liked how the game shadow of mordor treated Shelob. I feel Tolkien did ordinary spiders a grave disservice by making them evil. Many people, after reading Tolkien, would've seen real spiders as evil and monstrous. But without spiders, the world would end. They're in fact an essential part of the ecology. So now, i never kill spiders if i can help it. They benefit this world more than humans do.
As for Sauron the Moron, he must be the dumbest villain in the history of fiction to put so much of his power in sonething so small and easily lost as a ring - and even more stupid, bring it to a battlefield! I mean, did he really need it with him? Huge, gaping plot hole in my opinion. What an idiot.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! It’s interesting how ‘Shadow of Mordor’ added new dimensions to Shelob’s character. Tolkien’s portrayal of spiders certainly left a lasting impression, but you’re absolutely right about their vital role in ecology. As for Sauron, there’s definitely a lot of debate on his decisions. Some might argue his arrogance was his downfall, thinking no one could possibly resist the Ring’s power. But your take on it is certainly valid
Blame the idiot writer. Though all of history , real writers talked about powefull legendary weapons or armor. This weirdo (Tolkien) was obsessed with rings and jewels 🤣.