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That’s a fair point! Fëanor’s actions, especially the Kinslayings, are undeniably dark and tragic. However, some might argue that his passion and drive, while flawed, also shaped the course of Middle-earth. Would you say his determination makes him more of an antihero than a villain?.

@Taleof_fellowship absolutely not. Any criminal can give justifications for their actions, but it doesn't make the act of killing any less reprehensible, bar self-defense and this definitely wasn't. When murder is committed in the name of any cause, a line is crossed. Tolkien illustrated this by making the sillmarils burn the sons hands when they finally got hold of them because they were no longer worthy to touch them. Otherwise, you can argue that the likes of Osama bin Laden are anti heroes, when in reality anyone who resorts to violence to get their way is nothing but a weak fool. Lol, just saying 😊♥️. If only I could spell silmallarion

​@@Taleof_fellowshipI also feel that when Feanor saught revenge on Morgoth, there were no noble intentions. If he'd given the sillmarils over to the valar when they'd asked for them, then I'd give him some credit. But he locked them away so that only he could enjoy them

The Watcher in the Water gives us a glimpse into just how terrifying the Nameless Things truly were.

Very interesting, it could be!

@Taleof_fellowship Read/heard it in another Tolkien channel and adopted it as my headcanon.

Never heard that theory before, very interesting!

@Taleof_fellowship thank you 😊

that’s could be true!

Thanks for sharing your insights! I get what you mean about phrases like ‘tale tell’-Tolkien leaves so much open to mystery. I love the comparison to Lovecraft’s horrors and Ungoliant; it really deepens the sense of cosmic dread in Middle-earth. Appreciate your thoughts!.

thank you 🙏🏻

He can be seen as a villain or hero

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Indeed!

A ‘lobotomized Melkor’ version of Bombadil is a wild idea but makes sense with how mysterious he is.

Thats his nature

@Taleof_fellowship though as I think about what he is and what we as the reader know about him. He may not be too happy if Morgoth put the forests of Arda in danger. And we really don't know the extent of his powers. He may create a barrier around his forests totally disconnecting them from the reality of Middle-Earth. Or maybe pull all life into himself and simply move it into a pocket dimension. It's a cool concept to ponder.

Great analysis, seeing Tom as aligned with pure energy and unaffected by illusions adds depth to his role. Goldberry as a symbol of nature is a beautiful touch.

@@Taleof_fellowship I find it interesting that we know even less about Goldberry. Yet she simply is, just as Nature exists in reality; a living example of natural beauty that Tom simply loves and gives him purpose. This is a very Zen-Taoist interpretation of existence, where mindfulness meditation is simply experiencing existence with your senses, both physical and intuitive. This makes one aware of effortless effort (what is seen as constant flow of energy), this mirrors what the Japanese see as "Mushin" - action without conscious thought. Gandalf just is as well, his presence focuses those around him by his simply stating the obvious right action that needs to be taken and the moral implications integrated with that action. This points to oriental Martial Arts, especially Judo where energy is guided "grounded" neutralizing the force and the negative emotional vibration that it exists as and changes it through dispersion into the ground. This perspective in its essence points to a whole deeper level of the LOTR.

i’ve heard about tom being tolkein, but adding gandalf i don’t think about that.

Tom Bombadil definitely has that carefree, independent spirit that could reflect Tolkien’s own values. Thanks for sharing your perspective.

That’s a fascinating take! Sauron’s use of the Dwarves’ greed through the rings and the eventual arrival of dragons could indeed suggest a long-term strategy to destabilize Middle-earth. By encouraging hoarding and isolation, Sauron might have indirectly weakened potential alliances. Tolkien’s world is filled with these kinds of subtle manipulations-thanks for bringing up such an interesting idea!.

Haha, that’s a great way to put it! Bombadil and Morgoth would definitely be a unique match-up.

That would be epic! So much rich lore with Morgoth, Tom, and the Valar. Imagine a cinematic universe exploring all of them… fingers crossed that one day we’ll see it!

@@Taleof_fellowship thanks to your video! I didn't know that a certain Tom existed/is existing in the full story... Great job!

I wouldn’t assume that they were stronger than Sauron. After all, Sauron was the second most powerful of Morgoth’s servants, only after Gothmog. His strength wasn’t just in physical power, but in his cunning and mastery of dark arts. Recruiting beings like Durin’s Bane or Smaug might not have been necessary for him, as he had different methods of controlling Middle-earth that suited his long-term plans better.

@@Taleof_fellowship Gothmog has a barlog. And it was never said how physically strong Sauron was. His mental strength was phenomenal. No doubt. His ability to plan and execute things was also daunting. But keep in mind Morgoth made dragons, barlogs, and him. It was never quite said how powerful a dragon could become as time goes on. Nor barlogs for that matter. And like Sauron, dragons and barlogs could live for a very long time. And no one ever said that they did not become more powerful with age. But Sauron remained more or less the same in power level, it seems to me. Sauron was smart, but not as all powerful as he liked others to think he was.

Sorry meant Gothmog WAS a barlog.

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Interesting take! I agree with your point that Smaug, Shelob, and Durin’s Bane likely served more strategic purposes. They acted as key deterrents or guardians in areas crucial to Sauron’s plans. For example, Smaug’s presence in the north isolated the region and prevented intervention, while Shelob’s lair provided a natural defense for Mordor. However, there’s also the matter of Sauron’s pride and his need for absolute control over his forces. He may have seen them as too independent or dangerous to fully trust in his direct war efforts. As for Sauron’s command over balrogs or dragons, you’re right to question that. In the First Age, Sauron was indeed subordinate to Morgoth, who wielded power over many dark creatures. But after Morgoth’s defeat, many of these beings disappeared or hid away, and Sauron’s influence, though vast, was not as absolute over them as Morgoth’s was. There’s also the idea that, by the Third Age, much of the ‘magical’ power of Middle-earth had faded, and beings like the balrogs and dragons were simply remnants of an older world, not as abundant or cooperative as they once were. Lastly, I love your point about the fading of magic and mythical creatures as Men became the dominant race-Tolkien may have intended that shift to show the passing of an older, more fantastical age into one more grounded in the rule of Men, which fits the broader theme of decline throughout Middle-earth.

Cheers 😊

They might have been a strategic placement. But they were by no means loyal to him or servants to him.

Haha, betting on the Dark Lord, I see! Morgoth would definitely go all out. But Tom’s calm, mysterious nature might surprise us all!.

Thank you for all the love, i will fix that error asap!.

hmm 🧐

Wow, this is such a detailed and thoughtful analysis! You bring up some really fascinating points about Bombadil’s nature and the idea of relinquishing versus taking power. The comparison to Ungoliant and Morgoth’s weakening over time is really interesting, especially in the context of how Tom seems to withdraw from the world as it changes. Thanks for sharing your perspective!

Bro. The Narrator only explaining the power of both creatures balrog and dragon...

Smaug wasn’t alive during the First Age, but the point I was making was about the potential power Sauron could have had if he had creatures like Smaug and Balrogs under his command-regardless of their time period. It’s more of a ‘what if’ scenario exploring the power dynamics between different beings in Middle-earth

totally agree 👍🏼

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@@Taleof_fellowship I will!

Me too!

Villains often bring a lot of depth and intrigue to stories, and Morgoth’s dark, powerful presence certainly has a way of commanding attention. It’s interesting how personal preferences for characters can shape how we experience these epic tales.

I love that perspective! Tom’s disinterest in power and his connection to nature does give him that sage-like quality. The parallels with Zen and Daoist masters make a lot of sense, especially given his ancient and enigmatic nature.

@@Taleof_fellowship Thanks for the response! It's interesting how such characters appear in stories written by people who have no apparent link to such wisdom. Perhaps an example of the Jungian unconscious archetypes manifesting through creative literary works.

Tolkien and Lewis did have a close friendship, and it’s always fun to explore how their works may have influenced each other. Tom Bombadil certainly remains one of Tolkien’s most mysterious characters.

That’s a really thought-provoking take on Bombadil! His indifference to the Ring and the events around him has led many to speculate about his true identity. His connection to the deeper powers in Arda is definitely a captivating mystery.

That’s an intriguing idea! Tom’s role in Arda and his apparent disinterest in its larger conflicts does leave a lot of room for speculation. The idea of him being beyond even Morgoth is certainly an interesting topic to explore.

haha, glad to see a fellow wow player!.

You’re right that Morgoth’s power during the First Age was immense. Any confrontation between him and Bombadil would certainly be an epic one, with a massive impact on the land, much like the destruction seen at the end of the First Age.

no clear asnwer, they both strong on their own terms, but morgoth is most likely to win.

Evil can be redeemed.

Three rounds might be all he needs with that level of power 👀

i have responded to a comment similar, the council of elrond "THINK" that tom will fall to sauron, its character’s thoughts 💭.

elrond’s council 'THINK' that tom will fall.

Doesn't mean they were correct. Even the council of the wise didn't seem to know what or who he really was

Now that’s a legendary gauntlet! It’d be incredible to see Tom face each of these foes and rise through the ranks. Who knows, he might just surprise everyone by making it to the top!