Why Fire Spirits Had to Be REMOVED From Clash Royale...
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
- The Fire Spirit is such a forgettable card, and not very popular in modern day Clash Royale. And unfortunately for the little guy, that's how it's been for most of his life. But despite that, he's had some of the most interesting and impactful developments any card has ever had, and has made major impacts in previous metas.
Chapters:
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00:00 Intro
00:45 Fire Spirits are Released!
08:09 2017 - June 2018
11:15 They FINALLY Receive Another Buff
15:14 Fire Spirits Still Aren't Good in 2019
19:02 Fire Spirits Get an Overhaul!
26:16 2022 - Today
30:54 Outro
Music List:
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Village of Beastlings Day - Octopath Traveler 2
Taswell - C418
Antria's Dance - Edvard Grieg
Haunt Muskie - C418
A Far Cry - Josef Suk
Northern Kremispheres - DKC 3
Los Encinos - Quincas Moreira
Fear Factory - DKC
Concerto in D Major Op. 6 No. 4 - Arcangelo Corelli
imagine still playing clash royale
I do
Imagine getting ratiod by me
Why?
Hold this ratio
Can't be me haha
One thing I’ve learned from these videos is that logbait players are really whiny whenever anything obstructs their archetype.
I'm pretty sure everyone's like that💀💀
@@kingrojin8009Clone mains literally not caring about matchup because everything counters them: *Allow us to introduce ourselves, the three members of the Clone Council*
@@Ponchik-md5uq*6 members now
cuz their main win con being countered for 1 elixir is messed up
Your dick is like half a centimetre and this is what you're concerned about?😂😂
Fire Spirit should have been the one who gets an evolution. 2 cycles evolves into the trio Fire Spirits like before.
LET HIM COOK
The fire spirit's brothers are resting in exilir heaven with the heal spell
heal spell*
heal spell you mean
It’s literally in your pfp my guy😭
Heal spell cannot be that forgettable
@@3meritetrinel50 my bad, edited the original comment
And the fourth skeleton
"It prevented log bait from pushing high". W fire spirit
bring back old fire spirit aoe 🗣🗣🗣
The single fire spirit that is able to *fully counter* a goblin barrel for two positive elixir trade was really insane and was an extremely sad day for goblin barrel mains
Don’t all the spirits do this (besides maybe healing
Losers deserve to have their card unviable
good
@@AveragealienWhocosplays-gj2tg no
Good
I want the trio back. They felt so unique, and now are just... eh.
Imagine if they did a trip for all the spirits
Now imagine... spirit army!!!@@AveragealienWhocosplays-gj2tg
Old fire spirits might have been an overall worse card but playing fire spirits and matching up into royal hogs or barbs was such a good feeling lol
@@AveragealienWhocosplays-gj2tgSpirit Triad: 1 Fire, Ice and Heal Spirit, 2 or 3 Elixir
Perhaps they might do something like that for its evolution? That was their unique gimmick back in the day when there was only the ice spirit.
5:51 that freeze was insane
😂
He didn't even target the king's tower OR the archers. Truly the best use of this card to date 👏
I clicked expecting an actually good play lmaoo
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@@LiterallyAnasameeee
A really big issue the triple fire spirits is that sometimes they would jump onto an enemy that was already going to die from one of their brothers. This came from an issue with the general AI of clash royal where troops will leave an enemy as dead if the finishing attack is already coming its way, but this doesn't count toward an enemy dying from a splash attack. It made the fire spirits far too inconsistent in getting the actual splash that you wanted from them because they would all kill themselves on the same few troops. Changing the card to one fire spirit helped solve this issue.
With that argument, the Ai issue could be fixed instead of making a complete rework on the card.
Personally not against nor do I support the rework instead of the change to AI,
But I think it could be noted that to most people, the reason fire spirits were unique, even when compared to other spirits, was that it had 3 spirits instes of just a single spirit like Heal Spirit or Ice Spirit.
It's a tiny change, and even when the stats of the card were changed to make the stats the same as the old 3 spirits, it's still very different as it means that it "technically" is less tanky to single-shot enemies like Musketeers.
Not to mention, with the recent newer cards like Electro Dragon and other AOE/Splash DMG cards, it's still a wonder on what would've happened if Fire Spirits still had 3 spirits instead of being changed to 1.
At this point I’m willing to bet that this channel could write a 1,000 page textbook about clash royale
Real
They can. They just doesnt
No way youtube actually recommended a new video this early instead of waiting for days
Fr
I think it was better when it spawned 3 spirits instead of 1. It actually dealt some decent damage back then
I think it was same as fireball damage
Except they never hit
@@abdouaboud7490 yea that was the only problem so they could have buffed their health
@@jamesfarias9939yeah it could of have been a little nerf with the hit damage 😢
Bro a big part video proved that, most of the time, literally none used them
They were better because the card was worse??
0:50 "a time when new cards were actually added" lmao
@@eliot6836 yeah it's kinda sad but also understandable adding a new card while having to take into account tons of possible interactions from over 100 other cards is probably why they've really slowed down from back then
@@eliot6836 they're "tEcHnicALly" new cards, but really just another way for them to monetize the game without putting in much effort
Fire spirit feels unfinished tbh,all other spirits have a special effect tied to them: freeze,heal,zap,fire spirit is just high damage
An Evolution might fix that
Dmg over time seems like the most obvious answer
Imagine if after hit unit have a burning effect, and burning will apply to others if they contact with other units. Burning should dealt enough damage to kill swarms fast, but not do too much to match fireball dmg. And I think burning should have dmg reduction for tower just like spells or no damage to not make 1 elixir walking fireball
@@germanyballwork5301Even Clash of Clans already canonized that with the Flame Flinger
@@tetsuj1n6153the issue is how many interactions that would affect. That would make it VERY strong. Maybe as an evo, tho.
Something I find weird too is that in all artworks they clearly have feet and arms, but in-match they wobble around like South Park characters
LIKE SOUTH PARK CHARACTERS
Ice Spirit was straight-up better than the fire spirits, and there was nothing they could do to change that if they cost more than one elixir.
Make the fire spirit 1 shot anything that’s a way they could make it better than ice
@@dark_pumpedhas_spoken5910nuh uh
@@dark_pumpedhas_spoken5910wow really no way
@@dark_pumpedhas_spoken5910 🤯
@@dark_pumpedhas_spoken5910Nah, It's balanced
coming back to the game after like 4 years and seeing the single fire spirit wax like a cold knife in my heart
I really miss the old Fire Spirit trio. My main deck for years has been a Golem Night Witch Clone deck with Fire Spirits, Zap, and Log. With those cards plus Dart Golbin, I was able to deal massive damage against any push and cloning a full Fire Spirit Trio with (old) Night Witch and Golem just deatroyed full towers in seconds and that just doesn’t happen anymore. I never replaced Fire Spirit because it doesn’t have a replacement but the entire deck feels less powerful and not being able to beat things like E Golem or Barbarians easily really hurts, but again, there was never a replacement. Maybe one day they'll add a card that worked like old Fire Spirits
Supercell try to make spirits balanced (IMPOSSIBLE)
f r o g
the electro spirit:
Fire spirits enjoyer, used them in every deck since they came out until I quit. Came back on the game to try it out again and... look how they massacred my spirits.
Couldn’t handle the heat
(insert comedic drums)
Havent played clash royale for a while but they removed the other two? Thats what made it unique from the other spirits. One froze, one chained lightning, one healed, and one did big damage and had 3 to do even more damage
Not only that, but they also removed the 2nd spirit that spawns each spawn cycle of furnace
@@xray8012is the one spirit at least guaranteed to hit the tower left undefended?
@@iluvchess14736With the princess tower then yeah
"When a card is prominent in lower ladder but unused in competitive, it wont receive love"
*Literally Evo Wizard Draft Event right now* 💀
Evolutions make thing weird in this area because they require additional resources to acquire, limiting their impact on midladder to at least some extent.
I prefer the 3 spawn version cause it did hella good splash damage against a bunch of swarm units
I agree. They NEVER needed the rework.
Now that supercell cracked down on the evo problem, evo Firecracker's history would be interesting
The only card I used to spam more than Elite Barbarians at the time
Bruh in my opinion fire spirits plural was the best cheap card for dealing with swarms, even if under leveled it was so fun to play but just having 1 fire spirit makes me honestly annoyed even seeing a fire spirit in the game, to me supercede killed 2 cards with 1 stone, furnace and spirits.
I also hate seeing competitive get the most attention it's killed so many cards.
One of my fondest memories when I used to play clash royale was leading with a prince and having the fire spirits follow behind. Could you make a video on the best duos in the meta?
The trio could counter a full skeleton army, minion horde, gobiln push. Even 200 dmg per high level spirit on a tower would end the game
Wait so why should it be removed?
I think a "best/worst card of every season" would be a really fun idea for a video
true
Over 110 cards 🥶
Something I remember from the 2 elixir firespirits, I think this was a rounding error but at lvl 9 - 13 the firespirits would actually survive on 1 HP (going against equal level tower) and at lvl 8 and lower they would die in one shot. Idk how many people caught this but I found out while playing ladder at this time.
Great video as always. Hopefully we get a sparky video
Man, you content is great, actually want to see any card history or deck or season, i know it's hard, but wanna see more
Gratz please do another season review video for Seasons 51-60, and talk in-depth about the metas and specific events within each season. Considering, I really enjoyed your ranking of Seasons 1-50, I hope you take this suggestion.
I remember using fire spirits.
Instoppable mid ladder combo: valkyrie, hog rider and spirits, zap incoming. That was fun
Prime 3 fire spirit used to be so damn good, they countered so many cards it was crazy
Dude, I was just about to ask you to make a video on the Fire Spirit! Seems like an insignificant card but it has a pretty rich history. It was crazy strong back when it could kill Lava pups
I miss triple fire spirit
Bro like clockwork you always have a new vid when I have an extra long lunch break for work it’s awesome
I loved old fire spirits. I wish I got it back every day.
Like yeah OK funny now it does more damage.
But before that they would destroy larger swarms. Take down guards. Survive a few hits from ranged units. Pushed larger troop more efficiently. Etc etc. It was just more fun.
I always appreciate the amount of effort you put into your vids. Keep it up bro ❤
The audacity to give the ice spirit a evolution before the fire spirit(s) give my boy his glory back!
Still remember using them when it was 3 fire spirits! 🔥
Great video 👍
great video, I really wanna see the history of the sparky.
Electro Wizard next please
Great video, would love to see a video for the history of royal hogs. One of my favorite cards.
btw does anyone else wonder where the nme Gratz came from?
History of wall breakers pls ❤
Back when fire spirits was 2 elixir for 3 fire spirits, it was very good. Could take care of minion horde
I always played it with hog, when it were still 3, so good against many hog counters like minion horde
Hey, do you think you could do firecrackers next? I swear they are used in half the decks I fight against, but I cant remember the last time they got a balance change
Things like this are why I feel like the troop and the summoner cards should be able to have different stats.
I feel like a way to buff it now is to make it into two fire spirits
what did you think of the wizard update? i remember you talking before about your wishes for an evo for the wizard
Gratz oil up and dance to the overtime theme pls
I really really miss the 3 fire spirits. I played back when the released but I'm just picking it back up now and had no idea it was only 1. Fire spirits were one of my favorite cards.
Looking at the fire spirit as being a single rather than trio felt so depressing
i remember back when i was still playing few years ago, my most fun strategy, no matter if win or not, was mirror furnace clone fire spirit and everything else was 1/2/3 elixir card
i just builded up furnaces in the back with perfect timing to make them all spawn spirits at the same time, making enemy play tower deffence litterally, it wasnt 2 spirits, back then he had waves of kamikazes running into his tower, that i double cloned when the time has come
it was always so fun to play it and see the tower get oneshotted by army of kamikadzes
Great video would love to see the history of the knight !!
Ahh the Old Testament of Fire Spirit. Such a Unique card back in the day. Seeing it now it’s healthy but I missed those days of seeing 3 of them and dive bombing my opponent with Giant Skelly. I was a mid ladder player, but still i didn’t care if they were good or bad. I just wanted to deal with those swarms with damage and splash. I’m not a good player but those 3 little guys kept me going and dopamine hit me man. Cool video man
Nice Video, you should make a video about how ladder/path of legends has changed over time or maybe One of Knight’s history!
i distinctly remember using fire spirits in a meta knight, night witch, and bandit deck i came up with when i first unlocked bandit at its release. Back then i remember absolutely adoring fire sprits and i always thought they had so much utility. i was surprised to hear they were considered as bad when they were still their 3 troop variant. I used that deck for years and when they changed it to just one troop it felt like it completely ruined the flow of my deck
When I was abusing the fire spirit in my Golem 3-musk deck, I always used them differently from everyone else. They were a cheap defensive out to E barbs pushes, as they took massive damage, so I could charge a golem push up and only take half health on my tower, but by using E-barbs or even better IceG + E barbs, they wouldn't have elixir to defend
they went so good with giant skeleton clone before the rework 💔
As a CR Veteran since nearly the release of the game, I remember them being in like every deck since their release up until 2019. For us casual and non high ladder players it was basically THE essential card to have in every game as they were the perfect counter to everything with mass and can be "reserved" by being placed, so spell bait didnt work as well
I got back on this game to see only one fire spirt spawns now, I was so confused on what happened to them
the last balance change was also because it did more crown tower damage than a fireball, so after that change it did the same amount of damage
The trio of old spirits is very nostalgic... going forward for the next story I would like to hear from the Sparky
Never been to a video 14 seconds after it was uploaded
Love the video! Can you do one on bommer it’s my favorite card
nice video, also firecracker video will be insane
The old fire spirits were my favourite card by far, my first ever maxed card a few months after they released. Now it feels so crappy at least to me.
These videos are so well done
gratz u know so much about the game wondering if ur a top player or u just a casual who does alot of research?
Partly research, partly just being way too obsessed and invested in this game for the last 8 years.
I had no idea the Fire Spirit fluctuated so much in top ladder! I wonder when we will get a video on the furnace specifically
I played clash royale in 2016 and 2017, stopped and then came back only this year, so seeing the ice spirit in such a weak position here 25:47 is so insanely weird to me, i was flabbergasted 💀
Gratz, you should do the history of skeletons and why they went from 4 units to 3.
Yay, new Gratz video:3
I remember using the 3 fire spirts behind balloon and rage and it would perfectly counter minion horde which everyone played back in the day. Kind of sad how much they ruined this card for me, got to a point where it was useless.
Current spirit: _i cant kill minion at same level_
It always take long to upload the videos, but the time I wait is always worth it
Back in the day i personally used the fire spirits in some weird lava hound deck i used. So i do have a soft spot when they were a trio.
I really miss the 3 spirits. I liked splitting them in the back so I could set up a 2 lane push with hog rider and mini pekka with zap in hand to take out the minions that the single spirit hit. Got me to legend trophy range
This is a big problem with re works. It kills the decks it’s already in. However, makes it better everywhere else.
I miss multiple multiple fire spirits. At least give us 2!
I do remember using fire spirits when they were the trio in like 90% of my decks back then and remember loving them, I also never dropped them right on a unit so they just die
The fire spirits will always stay in my heart
Ty for doing this type of videos
I love yoy videos and i always wait this videos ❤
Love the Octopath music in the backgrounds of these videos
Can you do the history of certain famous players?
Moment of silence for all f2p players who face fully upgraded pay2win players
I loved the trio (except after ebarbs were added). I remember using them in my deck for such a long time to deal with swarms, and they felt so iconic, looking back they probably are better off now, but I still miss the trio...
I haven't played this game in years and am just now learning that it only drops one Fire Spirit now. Good.
22:22
Neither does goblin barrel
any chance we can get a firecracker history? I see lots of rankings saying that it’s a bad card but I think it’s useful
Love your videos so much
I liked fire spirits when they were released because they countered barbs, which when I sucked at the game. Was very useful
You might wanna do spear goblins next since they can still hit the tower even if underleveled