Did the Maesters kill all the dragons?

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  • @MariaVosa
    @MariaVosa 20 днів тому +113

    The most damning part is undoubtedly the fate of the hatchlings. And this is what I really love about Fire & Blood - the way GRRM plays with the realistic problem of unreliable historical chroniclers.

  • @Lone_Wolf_LT
    @Lone_Wolf_LT 20 днів тому +160

    Robert, you speak with such conviction that I believe that everything you say is canon.

  • @awesomehpt8938
    @awesomehpt8938 20 днів тому +116

    They should have had a bracken and a Blackwood as regents. That would have been fun to watch.

  • @ratgirl34
    @ratgirl34 20 днів тому +43

    Dang. I was sort of interested but not sold on the Maester Conspiracy. I think you’re making a believer out of me.

    • @inthefade
      @inthefade 20 днів тому +9

      Not all Maesters are in on the conspiracy in equal amounts, but it is most certainly true.

    • @williamhermann6635
      @williamhermann6635 2 дні тому

      Its not a maester conspiracy. Its a Hightower conspiracy. Maesters are just pawns for the Hightowers.

  • @IndomitableAde
    @IndomitableAde 20 днів тому +41

    I've read Fire and Blood and I'm a little vexed with myself that I didn't see Maester Munkin's machinations before now. Well done Robert!

    • @andrewscoppetta4944
      @andrewscoppetta4944 19 днів тому +3

      Same. It was so obvious

    • @dromankass8655
      @dromankass8655 18 днів тому +3

      Given that the Maesters wrote the history it's understandable that they didn't play up their actions and casually wrote off all these death as 'nothing suspicious'. It's not surprising we didn't notice this on the first read of Fire & Blood. Thanks to Robert for laying it all out so clearly.

    • @IndomitableAde
      @IndomitableAde 18 днів тому +2

      @@dromankass8655 I'd compare learning about the maesters' dealings to learning about the existence of the FBI's COINTELPRO. Dastardly but not at all surprising.

  • @justadarnminute474
    @justadarnminute474 19 днів тому +9

    I like how the sickly wingless dragon wyrm sort of parallels Aegon III himself and the dying out of the Targaryen line, but it does lead to the practical question of why the eggs don’t hatch.

  • @daveb8559
    @daveb8559 19 днів тому +21

    Robert! Please narrate for audiobooks. You are so very good at this. Thank you!

    • @CharmagnCody-mw6zr
      @CharmagnCody-mw6zr 18 днів тому +7

      He has a channel called The Well Told Tale here on UA-cam where he does just that with a selection of stories. Also, I completely agree! If I could hear him read all of the song of ice and fire books I think I would be in heaven!

  • @levig8214
    @levig8214 20 днів тому +38

    This was top notch. Great video IDG! All of your videos are superb but this was fresh. As a huge fan and reader of Fire and Blood many times, I hadn’t noticed Munkin being the sole person to retain his power and even gain power. Wish I could give it 2 likes!

  • @inthefade
    @inthefade 20 днів тому +47

    That the one dragon was born seeming like a subterranean creature lends credence to the idea that dragons are bred from the Fire Wyrms in Valeria. Cool.

  • @josiahst.patrick2091
    @josiahst.patrick2091 20 днів тому +40

    Your theories are so good and well thought out, I sometimes think they're Canon 😂

  • @awesomehpt8938
    @awesomehpt8938 20 днів тому +133

    King sir pounce 2024

    • @timgautreaux2871
      @timgautreaux2871 20 днів тому +8

      Long live King Sir Pounce !

    • @charlesfisher-kh5sw
      @charlesfisher-kh5sw 20 днів тому +4

      sire pounce 2024!

    • @larryroberts3598
      @larryroberts3598 20 днів тому

      Would that mean a pussy is King? Glad I took the Black

    • @jedross2136
      @jedross2136 20 днів тому +4

      Maybe Tommen thought he would just land on his feet and escape…

    • @ranfan1820
      @ranfan1820 20 днів тому +2

      I vote Hotpie. Sir Pounce as hand.

  • @laurashortill8623
    @laurashortill8623 20 днів тому +12

    Jessum crow, I’d lock myself in my room too. Aegon III’s survival tactic made a lot of sense.

  • @raphaelemartinat1352
    @raphaelemartinat1352 19 днів тому +9

    Love the theory: personally, I think the moste damaging evidence is his role in Peake's attempted coup. First, he backed the conspirators (and therefore, probably Peake) and refused to obey his king then after it has been obvious that Lord Rowan's confession was forced and the result of tortures, he sent ravens asking the lords for help and helped to end the secret siege by standing on Aegon's side... eventually, he is the only one that "participated" to the coup to have been spared and whose role has never been questioned... however fishy his intentions were. Not to mention that one of the conspirators, Marston Waters, dies in his care !

  • @janwitts2688
    @janwitts2688 20 днів тому +11

    The problem with people who think they know enough to take complete charge.. is that they don't.

  • @jackcullen435
    @jackcullen435 18 днів тому +3

    Another great video, Robert Loreatheon 👌🏻

  • @sebastianholden4759
    @sebastianholden4759 20 днів тому +12

    Well done, Robert.

  • @adamjoetify
    @adamjoetify 17 днів тому +3

    It wasn't necessarily a poisoning of the eggs - the maesters just wiped the incubation methods from history, so nobody understood how to properly hatch them. One of the reasons Dany's eggs hatch is because they incubated on Dragonstone, while the others were gathered at KL, yielding weaker dragons as a result, as the geothermal energy (volcanoes) are a necessary factor in proper dragon incubation.

  • @AndrewK23777
    @AndrewK23777 20 днів тому +10

    More than a little suspicious Munkun was able to basically be the lone survivor so highly placed with so many deaths of regents and Small Council members etc. And it would have been the perfect opportunity to seize upon to disrupt the dragon reproduction processes once Munkun was basically solely in charge for a considerable amount of time. Especially with the wider state of the realm healing from the DotD and many of the Great Houses dealing with their own regional issues. Its very maester-like and certainly fits their M.O. to create such conditions and maximize them to suit their aims , while avoiding obvious blame and ire. In this case a world with dragons (and magic overall , which dragons part of) , and this was the perfect opportunity. Marwyn much later basically admits as such with no reason to lie about it at that point and this era would have been the most obvious time and opportunity. Even the lead up to the DotD , a dragon-riding family with an exceptionalism complex , the DotD bound to happen at some point anyway. But would not put it past the maesters to have contributed with some poisonous advice and counsel to key power players.
    Overall i just find this Regency era absolutely fascinating. A wonderful amount of complexity , upheaval , crazy goings-on and certain ambitious power players trying to wield considerable influence after such devastation. All while an understandably extremely traumatized and broken boy-king clearly struggling to basically get through each day. Just a fascinating complex time period in this universe.

  • @paulsteaven
    @paulsteaven 17 днів тому +1

    Smallfolk: Would you lose?
    Unwin Peake: Nah, I'd win.

  • @icy_skywalker631
    @icy_skywalker631 20 днів тому +1

    Awesome video! Much love! ✌️

  • @henrygroya1685
    @henrygroya1685 20 днів тому +1

    Great content Robert thank you!

  • @morganhunt8051
    @morganhunt8051 19 днів тому +7

    Something that I think people overlook a lot about Marwyn’s line “who do you think killed all the dragons last time around?” Comes directly after saying that the maesters would have tried to kill Aemon if he’d made it to the Citadel. I think “dragon” here means Targaryen, and he’s referring to maester meddling in the downfall of the house generally, not specifically with killing their scaly doggos

    • @CharmagnCody-mw6zr
      @CharmagnCody-mw6zr 18 днів тому +3

      I think it probably means both.. great theory either way!

  • @RollMeAFat1
    @RollMeAFat1 19 днів тому +2

    I was so happy when unwyn peake got sacked in Fire and Blood, probably the most underrated section of the book is the Lysene spring

  • @saeyabor
    @saeyabor 20 днів тому +3

    I'm here via notification.
    Figured I might as well sub, after _watching all the ASOIAF playlists back-to-back_ over the past few days.

  • @ofkrosfrokos
    @ofkrosfrokos 20 днів тому +10

    Is this channel run by Barbrey Dustin?

  • @yaellramirez69
    @yaellramirez69 19 днів тому

    Great video!! Fascinating time in the history indeed

  • @OoMikkioO
    @OoMikkioO 19 днів тому +3

    now, *that's* a lot of spoilers for the end of House of the Dragon...

  • @feje_
    @feje_ 19 днів тому

    Another great video robert!

  • @CursedKelpie
    @CursedKelpie 20 днів тому +3

    the Maester conspiracy seems more and more real with every new bit of info I learn

    • @clownpendotfart
      @clownpendotfart 20 днів тому +1

      The source of the conspiracy theory is Marwyn, and his story is full of contradictions. He claims the reason Aemon was sent to the Wall rather than being raised to Archmaester is that the other maesters didn't trust him because he was a Targaryen. But there's already been an Archmaester Vaegon Targaryen, we know Aemon went to the Wall so the Great Council wouldn't try to make him break his maester's oath and become king instead of Aegon V, and Marwyn himself was namd archmaester despite claiming that he's as untrusted as Aegon!

    • @CursedKelpie
      @CursedKelpie 20 днів тому

      @@clownpendotfart More than just Marwyn dislike and don't trust the Maesters though I wasn't just him.

    • @clownpendotfart
      @clownpendotfart 20 днів тому

      @@CursedKelpie Who else? Barbrey Dustin, who blames them for Brandon Stark's betrothal to Catelyn Tully?

    • @CursedKelpie
      @CursedKelpie 20 днів тому +2

      @@clownpendotfart yeah, I’m not an expert, but I know the idea was bigger then just one guy saying a thing and personally I do think they maesters try to “guide” or perhaps use soft power to control things as best they can. The Catholic Church did stuff like that back in the day too, that might be where George got the idea.

    • @clownpendotfart
      @clownpendotfart 20 днів тому +1

      @@CursedKelpie The secular authorities back then were aware of the political power of the Catholic Church and would have conflicts with them. But no Targaryen has ever taken an anti-maester stance. Maegor was anti just about everyone, but he was much more opposed to the Faith than the Citadel.

  • @GM-db4bv
    @GM-db4bv 20 днів тому +4

    Interesting. Off subject: I started reading Memory, Sorrow and Thorn trilogy by Tad Williams...my God how come I hadn't heard of him??! 😮 So good! Written before ASOIF, GRRM obviously was influenced by him. A must!!

  • @cvox607
    @cvox607 20 днів тому +3

    3:35 wow color le surprised

  • @RandyDanger
    @RandyDanger 19 днів тому +1

    I still stand by my theory that the Hightowers and the Citadel are in major kahoots together to strengthen Old Town. They told the King to slit his wife open during birth, and she died. Opening the way for Allicent to wrangle thr King.

  • @olgapopova1827
    @olgapopova1827 17 днів тому

    love your videos!

  • @chrism6880
    @chrism6880 18 днів тому +1

    Didn't GoT state that the last generation(s) of Targaryen dragons were as small as cats? When tf did that happen?

  • @dromankass8655
    @dromankass8655 18 днів тому +1

    I feel that the evidence is compelling that that the Grand Maester is as guilty as the Man Behind the Grassy Knoll.

  • @celadongreen_
    @celadongreen_ 20 днів тому +16

    when the maesters ruled… so more than you think but less than they’d like to have ruled?

  • @jaden3602
    @jaden3602 20 днів тому +3

    @indeepgeek would you mind doing a video on why Sam wasn’t given the ring? I’d very much appreciate it!

    • @inthefade
      @inthefade 20 днів тому +1

      Sam's job was to help Frodo. It is as simple as that. He was a great and loyal servant and friend, and fulfilled a crucial role perfectly.

    • @jaden3602
      @jaden3602 19 днів тому

      @@inthefade could Frodo not do any of that?

    • @levig8214
      @levig8214 16 днів тому +2

      Frodo was given the ring from his uncle, Bilbo. Tolkien grew up in early 1900 Britain and this falls in line with their beliefs on inheritance. Idk why Bilbo would’ve even considered giving it to Sam. At Rivendell during the council meeting Frodo volunteers to take the ring to Mordor. And again, I’m not sure why the council would’ve even considered giving the ring to Sam.

  • @HunnyDoo
    @HunnyDoo 18 днів тому +1

    Sheesh, dropped my phone when he said spoiler warning and almost heard the hotd spoiler

  • @sandygehrmann6309
    @sandygehrmann6309 19 днів тому +4

    Honestly never thought of this conspiracy, but it's an interesting one. In Munkin's defence, the Winter Fever was extremely, *extremely* deadly, and I doubt he had a hand in the wars, conflicts and responsibilities that the surviving regents had to tend to.

  • @MasterTangerines
    @MasterTangerines 19 днів тому

    I've been unsure about the Maester Conspiracy before but this video kinda fully sold me on it.

  • @mori1bund
    @mori1bund 19 днів тому +1

    Damn, you made a very convincing case for the maester theory!
    BTW:
    have you ever thought about going into voice acting? 🙂

  • @Magmafrost13
    @Magmafrost13 19 днів тому +1

    It seems to me that there are two possible times "killed all the dragons the first time around" could refer to, and I think Ive seen you use the line as evidence for both. One is after the dance, and the other is the doom of valyria. Obviously its not reasonable to call both of these events "the first time around", so I think it would be interesting to explore which of the two Marwin was referring to

  • @lutilda
    @lutilda 19 днів тому

    The way so many of the group helping to rule died and weren't all replaced makes things so clear what was happening.

  • @The_Savvy_Satyr
    @The_Savvy_Satyr 19 днів тому +1

    Were there not eggs on Dragonstone and was Sheepstealer a breeding dragon? Perhaps she laid eggs in the Vale?

  • @Wuzseen
    @Wuzseen 19 днів тому

    "and more if we get the time" is that a new intro? Most unexpected thing I've heard yet in 2024.

  • @eren__morwen5947
    @eren__morwen5947 19 днів тому +1

    Damn bro I've been listening to the ".. And the witcher" in the intro for a year now but I yet to see any witcher video bruv 😭😂

  • @My_mid-victorian_crisis
    @My_mid-victorian_crisis 20 днів тому +5

    Your intro made me think of Oliver Cromwell...

  • @rockoutmichigan
    @rockoutmichigan 19 днів тому +1

    HOTD's "Seasnake" gets seasick... lol

  • @justineharper3346
    @justineharper3346 17 днів тому

    Poor little Aegon. He had a rough start in life.

  • @SHARKVADERS
    @SHARKVADERS 20 днів тому +1

    IDG!!!!!

  • @Scottishstorm
    @Scottishstorm 17 днів тому +1

    "Minor" spoilers!??!
    Enjoyed the video, though. :)

  • @christophergirardi8145
    @christophergirardi8145 19 днів тому +1

    Just wait, when the next long n8ght happens the maesters will be like, "omg what have we done, the dragons are gone and we're completely defenseless" then Dany can come in be like f- you, than fly away.

  • @evanthesquirrel
    @evanthesquirrel 15 днів тому +1

    If it can happen to a small town nuclear power plant softball team, it can happen to a small council

  • @nodatastored684
    @nodatastored684 18 днів тому

    Yes and the frce behind the Greens in Dance of the Dragons

  • @ShadeoftheEvening
    @ShadeoftheEvening 19 днів тому

    YES MORE VIDS! Love your videos Robert🖤🐉this is an especially excellent one. Mushroom account is definitely the most entertaining😁I totally agree with your theory. The masters are the "baddies". It's a big conspiracy and I love thinking/talking about it

  • @oriandorais1779
    @oriandorais1779 17 днів тому +1

    4:05 Faceless Men

  • @flokkiusflenobi5749
    @flokkiusflenobi5749 20 днів тому

    i'm just abot to finish reading a Game of Thrones again and i bought Fire and Blood a week ago..... think i'll pause on the main reries for now to read THAT history for the first time.

  • @johnkeck
    @johnkeck 10 днів тому

    I think we also need to ask to what extent was the young king involved in the decision to kill the dragons. From what you say, he would agree with the action. Was the dragons' extermination at his behest perhaps?

  • @johnmitchell4043
    @johnmitchell4043 20 днів тому +2

    It wasn't just the maesters.
    When the andals took oldtown they used house hightower the faith and the maesters to control westeros.

    • @redwarrior9100
      @redwarrior9100 19 днів тому

      Lmao, the Andals didnt take over Oldtown or House Hightower. The Reach did not fight the Andals but married them, assimilating them to their society. The Hightowers, just like Gardners, married Andal princesses. Oldtown, as the oldest and biggest city, became a religious capital for the Andals. The Hightowers themselves were traders and diplomats, not fighters and conquerors. The only time they actively participated in a war was during the dance, after and before that they never played a big role. They were no kings and later no lord paramounts of a region, they were simply an old, rich noble house. Why the fuck would anymore try to take over House Hightower while there are more richer, more powerful and stronger houses

    • @durrangodsgrief6503
      @durrangodsgrief6503 19 днів тому +1

      @@redwarrior9100 first of all oldtown holds the only knows repository of all knowledge in westeros, its the core of all religious affair of westeros, it was the largest city in wasters, had protection of the largest region and most prestigious kings and were themselves kings before submitting and focusing on wealth and power than military influence if you wanted to influence a medieval society what would you do control the books, the people who teach them alongside the religion I mean the very first high septon rose to power after the assassination of a lord Hightower and was regent for his son and made himself high septon if that isnt taking control I down know what is so why would take over house Hightower,
      they have the largest city, are as wealthy as the Lannister, the most militarily powerful lords in their region, and the strongest none royal house in westeros who wound try to focus in on them

    • @johnmitchell4043
      @johnmitchell4043 19 днів тому

      @redwarrior9100 House gardener order all houses in the reach to prepare for war. House hightower betrayed their lord gardener by inviting the andals and giving them a foothold in the reach.
      Lord hightower set aside his wife of 20 years and their children ( likely the reason House manderly left the reach) so he could marry an andal bride.
      They harnessed the wealth of the hightower , the influence of the high septon and citadel by rewriting history in their favour.
      It has always been
      Oldtown vs Targaryens

    • @johnmitchell4043
      @johnmitchell4043 19 днів тому

      @redwarrior9100 oh and the Hightowers were Kings until the submitted the the Gardeners who would not tolerate another king in the reach.

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 15 днів тому

      ​@@redwarrior9100they WERE kings. They joined the Kingdom of the Reach via diplomatic marriage with the Gardeners.

  • @HindiFeynman
    @HindiFeynman 19 днів тому

    New video request: Make a video on Melian the Maia

  • @j3011
    @j3011 20 днів тому +2

    Child kings and power hungry regents do tend to mix like water and sodium - just ask Richard III of england

  • @bolblizt
    @bolblizt 17 днів тому

    in charge of the crown lands to be exact.

  • @TheLyricalCleric
    @TheLyricalCleric 19 днів тому +1

    Dragons are the nuclear weapons of the ASOIAF series, so it makes sense after such a dangerous period of heavy dragon usage, the maesters would hatch a plot to eliminate dragons from the world. Perhaps they weren’t out to gain power, but to deliberately lose it, to eliminate an existential threat to society. Maybe they were right to do it.

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 15 днів тому

      Non-dragon proliferation. If the books ever end up like like S8, then the Maesters would have been vindicated.

  • @d.m.collins1501
    @d.m.collins1501 20 днів тому +1

    This is a new masterpiece for Robert. Finally I can put some meat and bones on the grand maester conspiracy and see HOW and WHEN (I already know the WHY) the Targaryens lost their true power, and the world lost its magic.
    TBH though, maybe he's a hero, and killing off the dragons was a good thing? I mean, for the smallfolk?
    Finding out that some guy killed all the dragons would be kinda like in our timeline if we found out that some scientist hired by the UN to inspect the world's nukes had secretly DESTROYED them ALL and made sure no one could ever build new ones (perhaps by convincing Pinhead and the Cenobites to come take any nuclear physicists who work on bombs back to Hell with them and replace their teeth with jagged little rods of plutonium, or something?). I mean, who would call the guy who ended the possibility of total human destruction a BAD guy?
    Though I guess in both cases, we'd find out pretty soon if the overwhelming deterrent of a doomsday weapon was actually what had kept some relative PEACE in our separate realms, and whether the loss of those weapons (even if not in entirely good hands when they existed) might cause far more strife and destruction than could happen with the threat of annihilation hanging over people. Which, you know, arguably is exactly what happened in Westeros after the dragons died: five Blackfyre rebellions, Robert's civil war, the Ironborn revolt, the War of the Five Kings, etc. etc.

  • @douglaspaxson
    @douglaspaxson 19 днів тому +1

    Last sighting of a dragon was 1905. Scientists say a dragon couldn't generate fire then how does the Bombardier Beetle produce a burning chemical?

  • @johntorres2565
    @johntorres2565 20 днів тому

    What do you mean when? They rule it in the present series too.

  • @janwitts2688
    @janwitts2688 20 днів тому

    He must have had the entire assassin's guild in his pocket or his end would have been swift and certain...

  • @OSUforlife
    @OSUforlife 20 днів тому +2

    King of the North

  • @johnfarley2365
    @johnfarley2365 19 днів тому +1

    I'm not new here but hopefully I'm welcome

  • @ahmedshaharyarejaz9886
    @ahmedshaharyarejaz9886 8 днів тому

    Perhaps one day Robert will theorise about a book written by one of his subscribers eh?

  • @robertt4116
    @robertt4116 15 днів тому

    Obi Wan? 5:57

  • @apollosungod2819
    @apollosungod2819 19 днів тому

    If he refused to write anything in the history books, it was because he was consolidating power for OLD Town, the Citadel and the Maesters... it is interesting that we see the Maester in GoT pretend to be a weak and fragile man with the courtesan or harlot but during the act he wasn't frail nor weak and that was a red flag that they were the true power screwing Westeros.
    Also for the boy king, the Westerosi Maesters could have used what he witnessed to blame the dragons for what happened and keep him ignorant to the fact that it was Otto Hightower and Alycent who began a coup to oust the Targaryen rule which would inevitably lead to a civil war which would lead to the dragon population and even the bonding of Targaryen and Dragon's to a decline as a result if the civil war... then if all the well educated and experienced Targaryens were somehow knocked out it would be easy to manipulate the young Targaryen heirs to whatever the Maesters willed for the true power of the Targaryens lay in their dragons.
    We could even argue that had Viserys been more patient with Khall Drogo and Daenerys that eventually he would have witnessed his sister give "birth" to the dragons and if he had the patience again to wait some years, he would once again have become a Dragon Lord along with his sister regardless if she was still a Khallesi and then her son with Drogo would have become a dragon lord himself which in all honesty would have been a way better story and comeback for the Targaryens and Valyrians and dragons as they would go on a conquest of most of Essos and then rain fire and blood on the accursed Westerosi who themselves deserved to be decimated by the Others and the Night King or whatever was the leader of them instead of that garbage story in the GoT TV show final seasons.

  • @ShadeoftheEvening
    @ShadeoftheEvening 11 днів тому

    Today!!!!

  • @Stephen-jw8ci
    @Stephen-jw8ci 19 днів тому

    man i love your videos. i know you're probably super busy with the volume of high quality videos you put out, but i would love to see you do some anime content on this channel or a new one some day. ever since you referenced full metal alchemist in a video awhile back, i've been wishing you'd explore making videos on that

  • @josiahst.patrick2091
    @josiahst.patrick2091 20 днів тому +1

    What happened to your Robert's rebellion playlist, I really enjoyed it.

    • @emilymoehlmann4023
      @emilymoehlmann4023 20 днів тому +3

      I think I heard he’s re-recording them!

    • @Grancigul
      @Grancigul 20 днів тому +4

      He removed all lower quality videos and is reediting and reuploading them with better visuals and audio, updated information and consistent thumbnails, i too look forward to it coming back

  • @cyrilmeynier5688
    @cyrilmeynier5688 15 днів тому

    Her : I'm sure he's thinking about about another woman.
    Me : Did the Maesters kill all the dragons?

  • @clownpendotfart
    @clownpendotfart 20 днів тому

    The title is factually incorrect. "Maesters" is plural, but you're only talking about one maester.
    Tbe reason Munkun's True Telling is so unreliable is that its primary source is Grand Maester Orwyle's account. Munkun wasn't named Grand Maester until after Orwyle was sentenced to death, and thus wasn't in KL while the Dance was going on. Orwyle was, but while awaiting execution wrote a slanted account in an attempt to save his own skin.
    You can't blame Munkun for the death of Marston Waters, he was mortally wounded by his fellow KG.
    Munkun couldn't have "deposed" regents who voluntarily left.
    Was there any difference with regards to dragons when the number of regents was at their maximum vs just Munkun? As far as I can tell he didn't do anything with his increased power that wasn't already happening when he was one of many.
    He did not "100% have the means". The books have never indicated HOW anyone can prevent dragon eggs from hatching! We have Dany's stone eggs hatching in an apparently miraculous magical event, and GRRM has indicated that due to its miraculous nature he's not going to go into the actual causes, and treats it as a one-off (so she was also only immune to fire that one time).

  • @bagthebird7610
    @bagthebird7610 15 днів тому

    I'd say that the maester conspiracy is kinda solid in my mind grrm all but says it within his books, if you have the wit to see it n with videos like these it's pretty clear it's real, I just hope grrm actually does something with it, ya know when he can be bothered to finish literally anything

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 15 днів тому

      He even had Marwyn straight up tell the reader 😂

  • @RandyDanger
    @RandyDanger 19 днів тому

    Ser Pounce!

  • @phantomjoker5
    @phantomjoker5 20 днів тому +1

    suspicious!

  • @awesomehpt8938
    @awesomehpt8938 20 днів тому +2

    Corlys velaryon died? I didn’t think that was possible.

    • @thing_under_the_stairs
      @thing_under_the_stairs 20 днів тому +2

      He had to at least fake it, or people would have gotten suspicious.

  • @Alamo-cz5xc
    @Alamo-cz5xc 20 днів тому

    I like Mushroom's version of history better

  • @LSK1
    @LSK1 19 днів тому

    Hey

  • @erikanders3343
    @erikanders3343 17 днів тому

    I suspect GRRM based monken on cardinal Thomas Wolsey who managed England during the final phase of the war of the roses and whom I suspect wrote History of Richard the Third. There is an almost jarring style change in the writing in the final 1/8 of the book that matches Mores more pedantic style. Thomas Wolsey was a much better author.

  • @lomiification
    @lomiification 20 днів тому

    7 kingdoms eh? Does that actually include dorne?

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 15 днів тому

      Technically it counts as 7 if you include the Crownlands: The North, The Vale, The Rock, The Isle and Rivers, The Reach, The Stormlands and the Crownlands. It's their way of claiming it's 7 Kingdoms without being called blatant liars. 😂

  • @williamhermann6635
    @williamhermann6635 2 дні тому

    The maesters only did as they were told. They are slaves to the Hightowers. They even wear chains around their necks so they never forget.

  • @AladinBenTerzi
    @AladinBenTerzi 16 днів тому

    but what stopped the three stolen eggs from hatching for 170 years ??

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 15 днів тому

      The lack of incubation? They basically petrified in the century away from Dragonstone. I guess the magic intensified the effect of the flames on the pyre and that was the only thing that can hatch a petrified egg?

  • @ajax3310
    @ajax3310 19 днів тому +2

    Bruh. Thanks for no spoiler warning for House of the Dragon right before the next season drops. So awesome knowing who dies and how, thanks man. Knoblet.

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 15 днів тому

      Did you forgot? Joffrey already spoiled it when he showed Rhaenyra's tomb to Margaery under the Sept of Baelor, even mentioning a dragon ate her.

    • @ajax3310
      @ajax3310 12 днів тому

      ​@@nunyabiznes33 Yes, because that's one offhand remark from a minor scene from a series that ended horribly five years ago and vanished from collective consciousness.

  • @LJFN213
    @LJFN213 19 днів тому

    Def killed raeneras mother in hotd s1E1

  • @TheBigHatLegion
    @TheBigHatLegion 20 днів тому +5

    Lemon Pies rule the 7 kingdoms. It is known.

  • @fallenaeon7084
    @fallenaeon7084 18 днів тому

    Masters: ALAS! WE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY SCHEMED THE DEATH OF THE DRAGONS! NOW WESTEROS IS FINALLY FREE OF MAGIC!
    The Others: 𝗛𝗲𝗹𝗹𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 ☺️

  • @alonys
    @alonys 17 днів тому

    I think all the fandom has to stop interpreting, commenting or making any content about the world of ice and fire until book six is out. As long as we seem OK with more prequels - the further away the chance books six and seven will ever be published. A strike as protest and I hope it will be a noisy strike.

  • @metatronblack
    @metatronblack 19 днів тому

    Batman was that Maester

  • @aster4jaden
    @aster4jaden 20 днів тому

    Those Maesters were sneaky, too bad no Targaryen ever caught on to them.

    • @janwitts2688
      @janwitts2688 20 днів тому

      @aster4jaden
      When they are openly bragging about it.. hmm

    • @clownpendotfart
      @clownpendotfart 20 днів тому

      There was a Targaryen archmaester: Vaegon.

  • @seaztheday4418
    @seaztheday4418 День тому

    If you have to name your 'history' book the "True Telling", your Telling probably doesn't have much Truth to it...

  • @bencera6067
    @bencera6067 19 днів тому +3

    Off the audio mix is not great

  • @Grewyn7
    @Grewyn7 20 днів тому

    First

  • @praetorxyn
    @praetorxyn 16 днів тому

    The Maesters are so full of shit. So many Targaryens died of "bad bellies" and there are shit tons of miscarriages. Convenient that the historians and medical experts are the same people.
    Also, Jaehaerys's son was killed by a crossbow bolt to the throat, while Archmaester Gildayn says they were aiming at the nobody standing next to him and missed, nothing to see here. This was the last barrier between the Marsters and what they needed to drive a wedge in the Targaryen family (great council of 101).
    It's bullshit, and it's bad for ya.

  • @peterg9729
    @peterg9729 17 днів тому

    In normal life a newspaper headline with a question means that the story isn't true. OUr Robert subverting expectations somewhat.
    Onto the main point.
    Why is everyone using pictures showing Black Velaryons just because the TV show race-swapped them?
    The same people don't show a Black Hermione when they use pictures from Harold Potter.
    In both cases the writers of a new show changed the race of a character compared to that described in the literature and the authors both agreed to the changes.
    GRRM said that he wished he had originally made the Dragonlords Black but never said that they had always been Black skinned.
    JKR said that Hermione has always been black, and that we have always been at war with Eastasia.
    Logically you should be using illustrations of Velaryons as pale-skinned, violet eyes and silver hair as per GRRM's stated descriptions, but using Black Hermione as the authoress insists she always was.
    There's no consistency here and it's annoying.

  • @GravesRWFiA
    @GravesRWFiA 19 днів тому

    just stop with GoT. seriously it's a dead frsachise. martin has contempt for his readers and will never finish, no one new is starting the series because it doesn't have an ending. stop acting like it's going to have legs. it's already dead.