The chin at the bottom though, Why don't they make thin bezels at bottom and thicker lid so the pcb can stay at the back, I mean most people would like to stare at their laptop's screen rather than lid's thickness
Thanks for the review! Waiting for info about Advanced Optimus; also - would love to hear how the speakers compare to the competition like G14 or Blade 14 for example.
@@hsuyaager8557 it is better and more Comfortable to look at a screen which is raised higher above the ground; than a screen which is only 1 cm above the ground!
@@Tom_Quixote this lol. I don't really game on the go at all, life's too short to want to game all the time so the 16 inch is already my desktop replacement w/ extra monitor. 18 would be better
@@escapetherace1943 for me it isn’t about gaming on the go. i only game at home, most of the time at least, but i do tend to move around with my laptop for work and other stuff. so for me it’s about having a laptop that can game but is still comfortable and portable for me to move around with when i need to.
After owning this laptop for about 2 months let me give you important notes about this laptop: -Charge icon is lit, which is helpful for plugging the laptop in and out at night - For the first week or so there was a noticable wobble on the right but by using the laptop more often that wobble is gone and now my laptop sits perfectly - In quiet mode the machine is still powerful enough to do basically everything I found no real use of performance mode or custom mode - Laptop comes with several display presets for creative work, out of the box it comes in the XRite mode. If you need DCI-P3 or SRGB you can change it in the settings. Everything else is covered perfectly by Jarrod, as usual. I wanted to have a powerful laptop that I could carry around easily and at this age owning a 16 inch gaming laptop or above is a heavy burden especially carrying it around in your bag. It is seriously good I’d highly recommend it!
@@luqman6866 I dont own this laptop, but i have a 16gb ram. honestly its borderline minimum for a ram. so far i only tested it in genshin(since i just got the lappy), it consume around 10-12gb at the highest possible settings with no add-ons(texture pack or whatev)
Hey I was wondering if you could post the color profiles which come pre-installed on the laptop? You'll find them in C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\color. I reinstalled Windows and now I've lost mine :(
It baffles me how aussie techtubers put so much work in their reviews compared to jays and linus "penny-dreadful-slop" content. Its like Elliot from Internet Today says: "people do like their slop".
Hi Jarrod.. I really appreciate you pointing out the video outputs from the USB-C ports. Its something that really should be included in the spec sheets.
@@JarrodsTechHello Jarrod, I couldn't find a proper answer for this question so I need your help for this. I'm intrested in the new Lenovo legion pro 5 that comes with a Ryzen 7745HX and a RTX 4060. What is the TGP for this laptop and does it have any limitations ? I also wanted to ask you about the Predator helios 300 with either RTX 3060 or 3070. What do you think is better between the legion and the helios 300. Thank you
Picked it up for $1050 with 16gb ram and installed my own SSD. 16gb is plenty for 99% of users. I love the quiet mode and it maxes out just about everything I want to play. A huge jump over the 1660ti in my Acer. It is not silent like my MBP 14, but it a great companion. No complaints. Also Lenovo's warranty extension with acciendent forgiveness is a great value for $50 ish dollars.
I can confirm that in Canada, the starting price is just $1869.99. Once the sale comes up and with a student discount it should be around just $1400CAD, which is pretty good.
Very nice! Love to see more laptops manufacturers in the 14 inch space. I’m assuming these have relatively similar chassis sizes to the old 13 inch laptops of a couple years back but now with 16:10 so that’s a big win in my book!
The problem is the soldered RAM. Sure, it has 32 GB available at the time of purchase, but it does lock you out of anything higher. And let's be real, 14 inch laptops seem to be really competitive this year, unlike larger premium 16/18 inch normal gaming laptops, which seem to be using Intel CPUs only. (Except for the Alienware m16/m18.)
That is indeed an issue. But they are perfect imo for 4070 and under. I honestly find those big fat laptops just to have a 4060/4070 hilarious as they preform no better than slimmer ones while taking up too much space and weight (and sometimes money).
@li1343 Oh I'm not saying 14 inch laptops are bad. They just seem to be more competitive than the bigger laptops this year. If this laptop had upgradable RAM or both SSDs could fit dual sided SSDs, I might have bought one, especially given the Framework Laptop 16 doesn't have Nvidia options and I use CUDA for video editing (on Linux, there are no AMD video acceleration options) and DLSS is generally better than FSR.
@@cameronbosch1213Yep! Amd and Nvidia have really let us down this time. I personally bought a tuf a16 with a 7600s because I got it for a steal (800 from 1100) and my old tuf with a 1650 and 3750h was done for. The 8gb vram worried me a bit, but I figured the price was so good, the battery life was incredible and the screen was amazing so I thought it was worth it and bought it. I am goin to keep it for now until the 50 or 8000 series to get a better laptop though.
Thank you for your amazing review! I sold my Legion 5 Pro 3070 cause i travel a lot between Italy and Australia and i bought this Legion 14 at the Lonovo Australia estore for only 2050AUD with the discount !! Such a nice price considering 1tb ssd and 32gb ram ! Lookinf forward to test it in 3 weeks!
This laptop has been the best decision I have ever made. It's really quiet and efficient for a 14". It literally holds everything you can think of, and even has a full on sd slot! Not that anyone really needs it, but it also runs so cool when casually doing non-intensive things. The OLED display is probably the best thing about this laptop and even though the speakers are not as good as the G14, it's definitely better than the other lower end speakers on the Slim 5 16" model! I personally think it does an amazing job on mids and highs, but lacks bass. Nothing a bluetooth headset can't fix though. I love the slightly beefier body over the G14. I don't feel any heat on standby, and with the G14 it would idle at 54c which was too warm for my taste. You should definitely give this bad boy a try!! I love mine and ended up opting for a Ryzen 7, 32gb ram model since the ram was soldered... which is the only Con I can give to this laptop lol...
It doesn't have upgradeable RAM, doesn't have ethernet port. OLED display looks nice, but its response rate is useless when you are forced to play on wifi connection
Your videos are amazing, but there's one small correction: you should not represent "infinite" contrast as 1:1; that's not how it works. When you write, for example, 1000:1, you are talking about the contrast ratio, which means that whites are 1000 times brighter than blacks. If you write 1:1, it implies that whites have the same brightness as blacks, which doesn't make any sense. The contrast ratio for OLEDs would be infinite to one, so it may be better to just write "infinite contrast."
Which one would you recommend for gaming purposes and for my work "DBs and programing with Android Studio" Lenovo - Legion Pro 7i 16" WQXGA - Intel 14th Gen Core i9 32GB - RTX 4080 12GB - 2TB SSD or ASUS - ROG Zephyrus G16 (2024) 16" OLED 240Hz - Intel Core Ultra 9 - 32GB LPDDR5X - RTX 4080 - 1TB SSD
I had a dilemma choosing between the ROG G14 for its portability/good screen and the legion 5 for its performance/build quality Now, this is certainly my pick
I bought the last year g14 6700, did a small upgrade to 40gb ram and 1tb SSD for 1300 USD, was a nice pick since it was mostly for work but now I could do a bit of gaming
Excellent review, I need a high spec work computer due to heavy files, excel and email accounts and for occasional gaming on 2nd SSD to keep separate windows accounts that can’t access each other. I need something with no RGB and not screaming gaming PC during a business meeting with portability, light weight and “no brick” changer. This almost checks it all. I ordered in 🇨🇭 for 1300 CHF inc tax with same specs. Great value!
I really appreciate that you show us your experience from Linux as well, I have never seen any other reviewer doing it. The things you mentioned like shortcuts track pad etc. seems to be working for many laptops these days, however there are still some areas which it is very hard to predict and that is the battery life. Some laptops are not optimized for Linux and have terribly less battery life compared to same laptop with Windows. Can you also please check battery life on Linux for future reviews?
I have been using this Lenovo Slim 14 OLED laptop for a few months now, and it continues to impress. The screen is gorgeous. It runs cool and quiet while gaming when using quiet mode, yet with good performance for all modern titles. I don't even miss the lack of GSYNC because the frame rate is high enough in all the games I play to be able to achieve at least 60 FPS. I have not observed any tearing, yet. Highly recommended if you're on the fence.
Hey I was wondering if you could post the color profiles which come pre-installed on the laptop? You'll find them in C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\color. I reinstalled Windows and now I've lost mine :(
@@fler1468my Legion 14 Slim did not come with Windows pre-installed, I installed vanilla Win11 myself, so I don’t have any model-specific colour profiles. If your laptop came preinstalled with Windows, then you should be able to go to Lenovo’s support web portal for this model and download the restore image which should contain those files. If your laptop came with Lenovo-supplied X-rite colour calibration software, then there is an option within that tool to download and restore the particular calibration file for your specific device from the cloud (that’s how my ThinkPad P1 works)
Man you’re the first tech review channel ive seen that included latencymon on your test. Truly a life saver. Especially to music producers/ creators that utilizes audio in general. Really appreciate it! Kinda mad i havent found your channel earlier😂
Hey Jarrod! Great review mate! I bought my last 2 Metabox laptops based on your reviews. Was looking for something more travel friendly. Just purchased this one! Keep up the awesome work mate :)
When measuring screen brightness for an HDR screen you should use a 10%ish window instead of full field. I measured this laptop hitting 740 nits at a 10% window which is similar to an lg c1, fairly impressive. Oled struggles in full field and full field kind of doesn't matter anyway so it's a little weird to see a 400 nit being reported. Games don't just have white at max luminance.
...as always, spot on review. 08:39 would be such a big visual perk to have whole keyboard lit in the color of the current/actual running mode, instead just a pwr ring.
holy shet mang! I've been waiting for Legion 14inch review. And Jarrod to be one of the earliest (if not the first) who review this beast! man, what a beautiful day~
ooof now I gotta pick, 16 or 14 inch... 14 gets better screen, 16 is more immersive, 14 gets better battery, 16 gets gets better upgradability, but I do like the numpad...
Mainly in comments to test out (aka show off) my members badge. Great video as always! Love your approach Jarrod on reviews and general vibe of the channel. Appreciate all your and your partner's work!
I got the Lenovo Legion 5i pro 16". The only complaints I have is the charger is a bit big and the battery time should be a bit better, other than that its a beast of a laptop. Would be cool to have a sd card slot and the finger print sensor.
Regardless of preference putting a blurry antiglare filter over a high PPI oled screen shouldn't be a thing you're essentially negating the benefits and the blacks would look worse as well. I would have got this if it had a LAN port.
looks interesting however... It does not appear we get a 32GB option in the USA (unless the PSREF is wrong). Also, even in AUS you cannot choose the 7940HS AND 32GB memory. So the perf you are getting might be less if we are stuck with 16GB. Edit.. looks like we can also config 32GB with 7840HS
It very may well be wrong. I got a Wi-Fi 6 card in a Legion 7 in 2022. And it was BAD. That wasn't on the specs; Wi-Fi 6E was. That wasn't what I got. As for this laptop, there is a 32 GB option at time of purchase if you customize it.
this laptop made me do a double take. Ugh i've been looking for 14 inch gaming laptop and was ready to purchase G14 but not until Legion Slim 5 released. There's only 2 choices left for me to finally decide and own. Lenovo Legion Slim 5 14" or Asus ROG Zephyrus G14? help me choose one!
considering the drawbacks from each laptop are: G14 the absence of full size card reader no 2nd slot of ssd slow read n write ssd speed no thunderbolt thermal heat issue Slim 5 no sodimm ram slot questionable optimus switch correct me if im wrong this will be updated
After doing a lot of research that kept me awake for two nights, I decided to buy the Slim 5 14" (Amd 7840HS/ RTX 4060/ 512SSD/ 32GB RAM) laptop. I chose the option of no OS to save some money, but I upgraded the RAM. I ordered it from the Lenovo website and customized it myself. I paid €1537/ $1.674 US dollar, which included an ecoupon discount of €258 and an instant saving of €54. I had it shipped to Ireland. One of the reasons I picked this laptop was that it had lower fan noise and temperature than other brands with similar specs. This means I can play a game in class without attracting too much attention 😂. I also watched some videos that showed that the laptop battery lasted longer with AMD. It also had better performance when not in performance mode. I liked that it had ports on the back but what i didn't like was that the side usb c was not the Thunderbolt 4.0 type C.
Looks sweet. I used legion y540 with i7 9th and GTX 1660ti. Really enjoyed it. I managed to sold it after 3years and just lost like 100$ on that. Now I moved for a ThinkPad E14 G3. If ThinkPad would have similar specs to this legion 14 I would go for it
I just got this with 32gb ram for 985 usd certified refurbished from Lenovo. The g14 with 32gb ram was 1699 use on sale! after taxes its like an $800 difference! And in the g14 review the 4070 is barely faster because it's limited to 90w tgp! I feel like I got a pretty good deal.
Hey I was wondering if you could post the color profiles which come pre-installed on the laptop? You'll find them in C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\color. I reinstalled Windows and now I've lost mine :(
Hi @sanhnguyen97, I'm looking for a 14" laptop and one of my option is the G14 2024. I'd like to know why you have returned yours? Thanks in advance! :)
I have the slim 7i 16". Not sure I could go down to using a 14" for gaming. The 16" screen is just that bit more immersive. That slight extra portability would be nice though. About half a kilo from the model I have.
I don't really get the argument about 14 inches being too small for gaming. Sure, if you're used to sitting 3ft away from a large gaming monitor, it's going to look smaller. But compared to my 65" TV at normal viewing distance playing console games, playing with my G14 on my lap gives a bigger apparent image, plus more vertical image due to the 16:10 ratio 🤷♂️
Just bought mine. Get it on Monday - first ever gaming laptop. I have a solid 3080 PC, but wanted something to game on whenever I go on trips/am lazy in bed.
If it wasn't for the glossy screen, this thing would be way more appealing. Speaking as someone who used a small gaming laptop through university with a glossy screen. It was pretty annoying a lot of the time.
I just wanted to say thank you for your fantastic laptop reviews! I'm currently in the market for a new laptop, and I would love to see your take on the Asus ROG Flow X16 2023. I trust your opinions, and it would help me a lot in my buying decision. Keep up the great work!
Jarrod, Great videos. Very thorough. US price in early February 2024 is $1479.99 but is on sale at BB for $1179.99. Your website is of great help in shopping for deals. Thank you for alerting me to the fact that this laptop does not have expandable RAM. I think I may go for a Legion Pro 5i which is on sale at Costco for $1299 (i9, 32GB, 1TB, 4060). Please do more videos on Eluktronics. I had never heard of them prior to seeing them on your website. Found an amazing machine for $1099 but am hesitant as there are so few reviews. Thank you again. You are a great help with my research.
(Almost) centered trackpad, important ports on the back, minimalist design. This will be a great laptop for clean desk setup. Especially for the one that prefers to put the laptop under the bigger monitor to utilize the laptop's built-in monitor.
So I was on the hunt for a gaming laptop about a month or two ago… Lenovo has been around for a long time but I was leaning towards a Asus or MSI. I stumbled upon the Lenovo LOQ 16, which I believe you did a review on the 15 version. It has the exact same specs as this, a 7840hs and RTX 4060. It did have an extra NVME slot that I popped a 2TB in, came with a 1 TB. It also unlike this one had two SODIMM slots so I switched the ram from 16gb to 32gb. Between the ram and SSD I spent about an extra 200. My laptop retailed at around 1400, but on Lenovos website I caught a sale and a first time buyer discount and got it for 984 before tax. Being larger it gets better temps with a cooling pad I’ve rarely hit 80c, and only hit 80 in the most demanding of circumstances. It is an all plastic build, but to save the money it doesn’t bother me. Best laptop I’ve ever owned and I’ll probably go Lenovo next time, was a great experience all around.
I originally got the G14 4060 but after Best Buy had the slim 14 on sale for the same discounted price I had to swap it out. I do not regret it. You lose the 1 free memory slot but gain extra m.2. 16gb is enough but more storage is a plus. The Slim 14 also runs much cooler than the g14 and that oled… I cannot go back to ips after looking at oled. I originally posted G14 or go home but after using the slim 14, Jarrod you were 💯 right and I should have listened. My first Legion.
Another great addition to the 14" gaming laptop world but the apparent absence of USB 4, 1200p/1600p IPS options, premium dGPU options and front facing speakers hurt the proposition a bit.
@@derekhatake OLED sucks at lower resolution because of the subpixel matrix ruining Windows text (watch any Monitors Unboxed video on 1440p OLED monitors) and IPS is cheaper, more durable and allowing better battery life with a lot of word processing and web browsing. With the dinky RTX 4060 choking at 1080p in recent games, anything more might be redundant for games and 3d rendering apps. User choice is always best.
@JarrodsTech: you mentioned that the secondary M.2 slot can take double sided NVMe SSDs. I have a brand new 4TB Kingston KC3000 here and it has 3.5mm thickness, but it comes with a thin cooling sticker-pad on top (like some other 4TB SSDs too). My question now is, would you leave that cooling sticker on or would you (or have to) remove it? ...or better look for another 4TB SSD?.. and which (fast) double sided SSD would work?
Why are there no 14 inch laptops with 4070 available in Australia? Keep seeing reviews of awesome lightweight 4070 laptops and then find none of them are actually for sale in Oz.
I was JUST in the market for a 14inch gaming laptop for my wife. We're specifically looking for something on the smaller side and this one fit the bill. With the current intel issue the other available 14inch laptops only being intel based really led the decision. We got the 16gig model so a ram upgrade wasn't necessary down the road though I'd have rather have had the option honestly. That said the AMD based system means I don't have to deal with the intel chip essentially committing suicide in a few years time. Also, I didn't consider the Asus laptop as Asus is in hot water right now with their warranty program looking like hot garbage.
I am surprised that 14" model has ThinkPad like keyboard layout (PgUp/PgDn keys next to arrow keys) and 16" doesn't. I wish 16" had the same layout. Grrat review. Thank you!
If this had upgradable ram it would be a 100% buy for me but i just can't justify the cost of the model with 32GB of ram it cost to much even with student pricing and 16GB is not enough in 2023. Going to go withe the slim 5 16" or g14 instead.
Hi Jarrod, i plan on buying this laptop cause it has all the features that i want. Really want to know your opinion and experience about Oled screen on laptop. Do they get burn in easily? Should i worry about burn in?
Been on my legion 5 pro 3070 for a couple years now and ive had literally 0 complaints. I purchased it during the height of the GPU shortage when everything was crazy for 1200 since I couldnt get desktop parts... I was worried but it kept up with all my friends desktops and exceeded many.... I use it elevated on a stand and plugged in 99.8 percent of the time. I did upgrade the ram since it came with the slow stuff.
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The chin at the bottom though,
Why don't they make thin bezels at bottom and thicker lid so the pcb can stay at the back, I mean most people would like to stare at their laptop's screen rather than lid's thickness
What are your thoughts on the Lenovo 5i Pro with 13900hx + 4070 for $1500 USD?
Thanks for the review! Waiting for info about Advanced Optimus; also - would love to hear how the speakers compare to the competition like G14 or Blade 14 for example.
@@hsuyaager8557 it is better and more Comfortable to look at a screen which is raised higher above the ground; than a screen which is only 1 cm above the ground!
Why is that the links he provides never work for me?
Nice to see Lenovo finally entering the 14” market. They’ve already got too many 16” lineups after they announced Legion 9i earlier this month.
Would prefer to see them enter the 18" market though. Good size for a desktop replacement.
@@Tom_Quixote this lol. I don't really game on the go at all, life's too short to want to game all the time so the 16 inch is already my desktop replacement w/ extra monitor. 18 would be better
@@escapetherace1943
I want a 42 inch laptop and retard patch.
Now they just need to enter the 18" market. PLEASE LENOVO
@@escapetherace1943 for me it isn’t about gaming on the go. i only game at home, most of the time at least, but i do tend to move around with my laptop for work and other stuff. so for me it’s about having a laptop that can game but is still comfortable and portable for me to move around with when i need to.
After owning this laptop for about 2 months let me give you important notes about this laptop:
-Charge icon is lit, which is helpful for plugging the laptop in and out at night
- For the first week or so there was a noticable wobble on the right but by using the laptop more often that wobble is gone and now my laptop sits perfectly
- In quiet mode the machine is still powerful enough to do basically everything I found no real use of performance mode or custom mode
- Laptop comes with several display presets for creative work, out of the box it comes in the XRite mode. If you need DCI-P3 or SRGB you can change it in the settings.
Everything else is covered perfectly by Jarrod, as usual. I wanted to have a powerful laptop that I could carry around easily and at this age owning a 16 inch gaming laptop or above is a heavy burden especially carrying it around in your bag. It is seriously good I’d highly recommend it!
How did you make the laptop not bend?
is the thermals good?
how's the 16gb ram??
@@luqman6866 I dont own this laptop, but i have a 16gb ram. honestly its borderline minimum for a ram. so far i only tested it in genshin(since i just got the lappy), it consume around 10-12gb at the highest possible settings with no add-ons(texture pack or whatev)
Hey I was wondering if you could post the color profiles which come pre-installed on the laptop? You'll find them in C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\color.
I reinstalled Windows and now I've lost mine :(
The slightly bigger 14.5" OLED vs other 14" definitely makes this a better all-rounder
Man, that tiny laptop packs a punch, Lenovo is killing it, their laptops are fantastic.
Love the details in this video!! No need to watch multiple videos for upgradability and linux support, love it!
Lenovo is killing it with these machines
literally 😂
@@nine_moons3073I have a legion 😨, Is it going to die ?
@@OrRainoYup, someday it'll die, even you will die
Lenovo used to be my last choice but honestly they've been doing great in the last 5 years, reviews like this show it perfectly
@@OrRaino haha very funny
It baffles me how aussie techtubers put so much work in their reviews compared to jays and linus "penny-dreadful-slop" content. Its like Elliot from Internet Today says: "people do like their slop".
Hi Jarrod.. I really appreciate you pointing out the video outputs from the USB-C ports. Its something that really should be included in the spec sheets.
Glad it is helpful!
I agree, I wouldn’t have known my usb c was directly to the video card without your input
@@JarrodsTechHello Jarrod,
I couldn't find a proper answer for this question so I need your help for this.
I'm intrested in the new Lenovo legion pro 5 that comes with a Ryzen 7745HX and a RTX 4060. What is the TGP for this laptop and does it have any limitations ?
I also wanted to ask you about the Predator helios 300 with either RTX 3060 or 3070. What do you think is better between the legion and the helios 300.
Thank you
Make sure to compare the g14 and legion slim 5 14. Would be great to hear your consensus on these awesome machines and compared head to head.
Picked it up for $1050 with 16gb ram and installed my own SSD. 16gb is plenty for 99% of users. I love the quiet mode and it maxes out just about everything I want to play. A huge jump over the 1660ti in my Acer. It is not silent like my MBP 14, but it a great companion. No complaints. Also Lenovo's warranty extension with acciendent forgiveness is a great value for $50 ish dollars.
Dude, why am I in the same boat $1050 price, 16 gb ram, and came from a 1660 ti although my previous one was an hp omen 16.
How is the laptop so far?
I can confirm that in Canada, the starting price is just $1869.99. Once the sale comes up and with a student discount it should be around just $1400CAD, which is pretty good.
Kind of tempted to get this for the OLED screen
wait until they make a model with a matte oled, the non-oled lenovo's already look so good in color it isn't worth the jump if you already own one.
Would be better if it was mini led
Nah, bloom will be there as well as mediocre response time@@Rororandd
The OLED is incredible, I have this laptop and have had many others. I love this thing.
@@JakeTreadwayhi, or do you have a concave screen in the middle?
FINALLY I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR A 14” LEGION 😭
Very nice! Love to see more laptops manufacturers in the 14 inch space. I’m assuming these have relatively similar chassis sizes to the old 13 inch laptops of a couple years back but now with 16:10 so that’s a big win in my book!
The problem is the soldered RAM. Sure, it has 32 GB available at the time of purchase, but it does lock you out of anything higher.
And let's be real, 14 inch laptops seem to be really competitive this year, unlike larger premium 16/18 inch normal gaming laptops, which seem to be using Intel CPUs only. (Except for the Alienware m16/m18.)
That is indeed an issue. But they are perfect imo for 4070 and under. I honestly find those big fat laptops just to have a 4060/4070 hilarious as they preform no better than slimmer ones while taking up too much space and weight (and sometimes money).
@li1343 Oh I'm not saying 14 inch laptops are bad. They just seem to be more competitive than the bigger laptops this year.
If this laptop had upgradable RAM or both SSDs could fit dual sided SSDs, I might have bought one, especially given the Framework Laptop 16 doesn't have Nvidia options and I use CUDA for video editing (on Linux, there are no AMD video acceleration options) and DLSS is generally better than FSR.
@li1343 Also, 8 GB of vRAM in 2023 as the maximum is not very future proof on both the RTX 4070 and _all of AMD's 7000 laptop GPUs._
@@cameronbosch1213Yep! Amd and Nvidia have really let us down this time. I personally bought a tuf a16 with a 7600s because I got it for a steal (800 from 1100) and my old tuf with a 1650 and 3750h was done for. The 8gb vram worried me a bit, but I figured the price was so good, the battery life was incredible and the screen was amazing so I thought it was worth it and bought it. I am goin to keep it for now until the 50 or 8000 series to get a better laptop though.
Thank you for your amazing review! I sold my Legion 5 Pro 3070 cause i travel a lot between Italy and Australia and i bought this Legion 14 at the Lonovo Australia estore for only 2050AUD with the discount !! Such a nice price considering 1tb ssd and 32gb ram ! Lookinf forward to test it in 3 weeks!
AMD Pheonix is killing it! Excellent performance Excellent battery life!!
Yeah, would love to see an amd advantage combo on legion laptops though.
What are your thoughts in this years amd advantage laptops tho?
@@aasishwarsaravana5748they did with legion 7 gen 7 6850m XT and 6900HX
last year
@@aasishwarsaravana5748sorry to say but this year there are no great option for AMD advantage laptops .....
It will pop when AMD decides to release their Mobile version of the GPUs this year lol@@aasishwarsaravana5748
@@aasishwarsaravana5748AMD Advantage is with the CPU imo. For the GPU, I still prefer NVIDIA.
I can't sacrifice Thunderbolt4 port. Lenovo should think about it again
This laptop has been the best decision I have ever made. It's really quiet and efficient for a 14". It literally holds everything you can think of, and even has a full on sd slot! Not that anyone really needs it, but it also runs so cool when casually doing non-intensive things. The OLED display is probably the best thing about this laptop and even though the speakers are not as good as the G14, it's definitely better than the other lower end speakers on the Slim 5 16" model! I personally think it does an amazing job on mids and highs, but lacks bass. Nothing a bluetooth headset can't fix though. I love the slightly beefier body over the G14. I don't feel any heat on standby, and with the G14 it would idle at 54c which was too warm for my taste. You should definitely give this bad boy a try!! I love mine and ended up opting for a Ryzen 7, 32gb ram model since the ram was soldered... which is the only Con I can give to this laptop lol...
Have you done any native resolution gaming on it?
It doesn't have upgradeable RAM, doesn't have ethernet port. OLED display looks nice, but its response rate is useless when you are forced to play on wifi connection
Your videos are amazing, but there's one small correction: you should not represent "infinite" contrast as 1:1; that's not how it works. When you write, for example, 1000:1, you are talking about the contrast ratio, which means that whites are 1000 times brighter than blacks. If you write 1:1, it implies that whites have the same brightness as blacks, which doesn't make any sense. The contrast ratio for OLEDs would be infinite to one, so it may be better to just write "infinite contrast."
....Bought the Framework 16. "Never buying another laptop again after this." Shit, this is tempting. Very tempting.
Which one would you recommend for gaming purposes and for my work "DBs and programing with Android Studio"
Lenovo - Legion Pro 7i 16" WQXGA - Intel 14th Gen Core i9 32GB - RTX 4080 12GB - 2TB SSD or
ASUS - ROG Zephyrus G16 (2024) 16" OLED 240Hz - Intel Core Ultra 9 - 32GB LPDDR5X - RTX 4080 - 1TB SSD
for battery life and screen and portability, the zephyrus
for much better performance and cooling, the legion
Your determination and dedication inspired me to make my own music bro, thankyou!
I had a dilemma choosing between the ROG G14 for its portability/good screen and the legion 5 for its performance/build quality
Now, this is certainly my pick
I bought the last year g14 6700, did a small upgrade to 40gb ram and 1tb SSD for 1300 USD, was a nice pick since it was mostly for work but now I could do a bit of gaming
why good screen? this one got oled which is better than g14
@@whtzauppthe oled one would mostly be available in us only
@@whtzaupp read again my comment. I was talking about the legion 5 (before the 14'').
oled screen is worth it alone
Excellent review, I need a high spec work computer due to heavy files, excel and email accounts and for occasional gaming on 2nd SSD to keep separate windows accounts that can’t access each other. I need something with no RGB and not screaming gaming PC during a business meeting with portability, light weight and “no brick” changer. This almost checks it all. I ordered in 🇨🇭 for 1300 CHF inc tax with same specs. Great value!
I really appreciate that you show us your experience from Linux as well, I have never seen any other reviewer doing it. The things you mentioned like shortcuts track pad etc. seems to be working for many laptops these days, however there are still some areas which it is very hard to predict and that is the battery life. Some laptops are not optimized for Linux and have terribly less battery life compared to same laptop with Windows. Can you also please check battery life on Linux for future reviews?
I have been using this Lenovo Slim 14 OLED laptop for a few months now, and it continues to impress. The screen is gorgeous. It runs cool and quiet while gaming when using quiet mode, yet with good performance for all modern titles. I don't even miss the lack of GSYNC because the frame rate is high enough in all the games I play to be able to achieve at least 60 FPS. I have not observed any tearing, yet. Highly recommended if you're on the fence.
Hey I was wondering if you could post the color profiles which come pre-installed on the laptop? You'll find them in C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\color.
I reinstalled Windows and now I've lost mine :(
@@fler1468my Legion 14 Slim did not come with Windows pre-installed, I installed vanilla Win11 myself, so I don’t have any model-specific colour profiles.
If your laptop came preinstalled with Windows, then you should be able to go to Lenovo’s support web portal for this model and download the restore image which should contain those files.
If your laptop came with Lenovo-supplied X-rite colour calibration software, then there is an option within that tool to download and restore the particular calibration file for your specific device from the cloud (that’s how my ThinkPad P1 works)
I don't know... But everytime i see or heard "OLED", i remember "screen burn".
is that still an issue or it's not relate anymore?
It's not really too much of an issue as long as you don't show white or static content for extended periods of time.
By the time burn in is an issue this laptop will be old and obsolete
@@cameronbosch1213 But in many games, there is a HUD that stays in the same spot on the screen and people often play for extended periods of time...
@@Tom_Quixote Not everybody plays those games constantly...
@@cameronbosch1213 well i guess everyone with OLED screen PC or laptop should use Wallpaper Engine or even the classic screen saver feature.
thank you for including the linux support section. This is one of the reasons i watch your videos over other reviewers.
been checking for this review and for the release everyday for at least a month now.
Man you’re the first tech review channel ive seen that included latencymon on your test. Truly a life saver. Especially to music producers/ creators that utilizes audio in general. Really appreciate it! Kinda mad i havent found your channel earlier😂
Glad to help!
Hey Jarrod! Great review mate! I bought my last 2 Metabox laptops based on your reviews. Was looking for something more travel friendly. Just purchased this one! Keep up the awesome work mate :)
I've been waiting this laptop since 2 months ago, and FINALLY!!! thanks Jarrod
Lenovo has a special in Aus. Picked this up for AUD $1999.00, note: It comes with 32GB of RAM.
When measuring screen brightness for an HDR screen you should use a 10%ish window instead of full field. I measured this laptop hitting 740 nits at a 10% window which is similar to an lg c1, fairly impressive. Oled struggles in full field and full field kind of doesn't matter anyway so it's a little weird to see a 400 nit being reported. Games don't just have white at max luminance.
...as always, spot on review.
08:39 would be such a big visual perk to have whole keyboard lit in the color of the current/actual running mode, instead just a pwr ring.
Thanks so much for this review. I've literally been refreshing the Lenovo Legion Slim page every day to see when the 14" will start selling in the US.
holy shet mang! I've been waiting for Legion 14inch review. And Jarrod to be one of the earliest (if not the first) who review this beast! man, what a beautiful day~
Such an excellent review on an excellent 14in laptop this year. well done! really makes me wanna grab the laptop!
ooof now I gotta pick, 16 or 14 inch... 14 gets better screen, 16 is more immersive, 14 gets better battery, 16 gets gets better upgradability, but I do like the numpad...
I have been waiting for this since it was announced, definitely my favorite laptop of this gen so far...
Mainly in comments to test out (aka show off) my members badge.
Great video as always! Love your approach Jarrod on reviews and general vibe of the channel. Appreciate all your and your partner's work!
Thanks for joining!
I got the Lenovo Legion 5i pro 16".
The only complaints I have is the charger is a bit big and the battery time should be a bit better, other than that its a beast of a laptop.
Would be cool to have a sd card slot and the finger print sensor.
That is probably the best laptop up to date
I can't find the 32gb ram version anywhere 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
0:57 I feel like I was at the dentist without anesthesia. It hurts so much seeing this.
Most comprehensive review I‘ve seen on this machine! Really enjoyed your meticulous approach :)
With the fingerprint scanner and oled screen it kind of feels like a slim 6 to me😂
Regardless of preference putting a blurry antiglare filter over a high PPI oled screen shouldn't be a thing you're essentially negating the benefits and the blacks would look worse as well. I would have got this if it had a LAN port.
Finally a laptop with no screen bleeding but what about the burning issues that are shown in the vantage software?? 😢
They're to help prevent it. It's standard with laptops with oled displays.
looks interesting however... It does not appear we get a 32GB option in the USA (unless the PSREF is wrong). Also, even in AUS you cannot choose the 7940HS AND 32GB memory. So the perf you are getting might be less if we are stuck with 16GB. Edit.. looks like we can also config 32GB with 7840HS
It very may well be wrong. I got a Wi-Fi 6 card in a Legion 7 in 2022. And it was BAD. That wasn't on the specs; Wi-Fi 6E was. That wasn't what I got.
As for this laptop, there is a 32 GB option at time of purchase if you customize it.
i was waiing for this review man
Your videos helped me decide on a new gaming laptop. I bought the Lenovo Legion pro 5.
I don't trust soldered ram
If it fails you can say goodbye to the laptop, especially in some countries where the warranty doesn't work
this laptop made me do a double take. Ugh i've been looking for 14 inch gaming laptop and was ready to purchase G14 but not until Legion Slim 5 released. There's only 2 choices left for me to finally decide and own.
Lenovo Legion Slim 5 14"
or
Asus ROG Zephyrus G14?
help me choose one!
considering the drawbacks from each laptop are:
G14
the absence of full size card reader
no 2nd slot of ssd
slow read n write ssd speed
no thunderbolt
thermal heat issue
Slim 5
no sodimm ram slot
questionable optimus switch
correct me if im wrong this will be updated
@@regitaandDoes the Legion have thunderbolt? I thought that was an Intel only thing
@@iz723 i dont think so, but it has 3 usb c with 1 capable of charging and 2 connected to integrated and dedicated card?
@@regitaand So does that mean I can use a usbc dongle that has hdmi ports and usb ports etc?
After doing a lot of research that kept me awake for two nights, I decided to buy the Slim 5 14" (Amd 7840HS/ RTX 4060/ 512SSD/ 32GB RAM) laptop.
I chose the option of no OS to save some money, but I upgraded the RAM.
I ordered it from the Lenovo website and customized it myself. I paid €1537/ $1.674 US dollar, which included an ecoupon discount of €258 and an instant saving of €54. I had it shipped to Ireland.
One of the reasons I picked this laptop was that it had lower fan noise and temperature than other brands with similar specs. This means I can play a game in class without attracting too much attention 😂.
I also watched some videos that showed that the laptop battery lasted longer with AMD. It also had better performance when not in performance mode.
I liked that it had ports on the back but what i didn't like was that the side usb c was not the Thunderbolt 4.0 type C.
Do you buy this?
If I am not wrong I believe thunderbolt is only possible with intel cpus or Mac’s, but for AMD we could have usb gen 4 .
How did you custom order it? I I can't seem to do that
@@knight3599 you have to go on their Lenovo website. Chose the laptop and then options pop up to either add ram and customise it
Looks sweet. I used legion y540 with i7 9th and GTX 1660ti. Really enjoyed it. I managed to sold it after 3years and just lost like 100$ on that. Now I moved for a ThinkPad E14 G3. If ThinkPad would have similar specs to this legion 14 I would go for it
How much battery life are you getting on the ThinkPad? With half brightness, Silent/Windows Battery Saver mode?
I returned my G14 2024 to get this laptop. Zero regret. This ones blows the G14 out of the water almost everything except the look
is the speaker as good as g14?
@@Donker1582 the g14 is much better speaker
I just got this with 32gb ram for 985 usd certified refurbished from Lenovo. The g14 with 32gb ram was 1699 use on sale! after taxes its like an $800 difference! And in the g14 review the 4070 is barely faster because it's limited to 90w tgp! I feel like I got a pretty good deal.
Hey I was wondering if you could post the color profiles which come pre-installed on the laptop? You'll find them in C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\color.
I reinstalled Windows and now I've lost mine :(
Hi @sanhnguyen97, I'm looking for a 14" laptop and one of my option is the G14 2024. I'd like to know why you have returned yours? Thanks in advance! :)
Lonovo has some of the best, if not the best laptop keyboards.
How is the fan noise while gaming? Stress testing was really loud…
I have the slim 7i 16". Not sure I could go down to using a 14" for gaming. The 16" screen is just that bit more immersive. That slight extra portability would be nice though. About half a kilo from the model I have.
I use an asus g14 for portability and have an 18 inch 2k 144hz portable monitor for gaming
@@moparjr89 cool. 14 still sucks for most games, especially FPS. Really hard on the eyes
@@escapetherace1943 which is why he has a 18 inch portable monitor lmfao
@@homiej2548 😂
I don't really get the argument about 14 inches being too small for gaming. Sure, if you're used to sitting 3ft away from a large gaming monitor, it's going to look smaller. But compared to my 65" TV at normal viewing distance playing console games, playing with my G14 on my lap gives a bigger apparent image, plus more vertical image due to the 16:10 ratio 🤷♂️
finally a legion without a numpad! will surely buy this one
Review aside, you get so many brownie points from me for the In Flames shirts. Always nice to see a fellow jesterhead
Will there be 4070ti laptops out in the future? Kinda like they did last gen with the 3070 then 3070ti laptops
Given the difference between the 4070 and the 4080 I'd have to assume so.
So it doesn't have USB 4? And does this OLED panel suffer from PWM flickering like other OLED laptops?
Your reviews are perfect
thanks!
Just bought mine. Get it on Monday - first ever gaming laptop. I have a solid 3080 PC, but wanted something to game on whenever I go on trips/am lazy in bed.
How has it been is it worth it ?
At 14:22 the webcam sound demo while typing cuts away almost instantly and can't hear it
I think he was typing during the lead up to that point, ie you can't really hear it!
@@schristall thanks
If it wasn't for the glossy screen, this thing would be way more appealing. Speaking as someone who used a small gaming laptop through university with a glossy screen. It was pretty annoying a lot of the time.
Super helpful review, love all the data!
I see a new Jarrod's video, I click the video! Great video as usual!
Seems like a good alternative to the G14. I'll keep my eye on it.
I just wanted to say thank you for your fantastic laptop reviews! I'm currently in the market for a new laptop, and I would love to see your take on the Asus ROG Flow X16 2023. I trust your opinions, and it would help me a lot in my buying decision. Keep up the great work!
Thanks! Unfortunately, I don't know that we'll be getting the x16 this year.
Jarrod, Great videos. Very thorough. US price in early February 2024 is $1479.99 but is on sale at BB for $1179.99. Your website is of great help in shopping for deals. Thank you for alerting me to the fact that this laptop does not have expandable RAM. I think I may go for a Legion Pro 5i which is on sale at Costco for $1299 (i9, 32GB, 1TB, 4060). Please do more videos on Eluktronics. I had never heard of them prior to seeing them on your website. Found an amazing machine for $1099 but am hesitant as there are so few reviews. Thank you again. You are a great help with my research.
(Almost) centered trackpad, important ports on the back, minimalist design. This will be a great laptop for clean desk setup. Especially for the one that prefers to put the laptop under the bigger monitor to utilize the laptop's built-in monitor.
Hi Jarrod! What do you think about the Slim 5 14" PWM flickering? Does it bother you in any way, maybe with lower brightness levels?
So I was on the hunt for a gaming laptop about a month or two ago… Lenovo has been around for a long time but I was leaning towards a Asus or MSI. I stumbled upon the Lenovo LOQ 16, which I believe you did a review on the 15 version. It has the exact same specs as this, a 7840hs and RTX 4060. It did have an extra NVME slot that I popped a 2TB in, came with a 1 TB. It also unlike this one had two SODIMM slots so I switched the ram from 16gb to 32gb. Between the ram and SSD I spent about an extra 200. My laptop retailed at around 1400, but on Lenovos website I caught a sale and a first time buyer discount and got it for 984 before tax. Being larger it gets better temps with a cooling pad I’ve rarely hit 80c, and only hit 80 in the most demanding of circumstances. It is an all plastic build, but to save the money it doesn’t bother me. Best laptop I’ve ever owned and I’ll probably go Lenovo next time, was a great experience all around.
Oh and it has a usb a on the right side! Great for a mouse dongle or my laptop cooler when I’m gaming with a controller. Has two more on the back.
@JarrodsTech - do you know the reason why the Ryzen 9 only allows 16gb ram compared to the Ryzen 7 that allows 32gb?
Why didn’t you mention about PWM 0-100% brightness??
Can you charge it by usb-c?
Yes just not as quickly with the charger it comes with.
Still waiting for 18" version with maximum CPU performance and cooling.
I originally got the G14 4060 but after Best Buy had the slim 14 on sale for the same discounted price I had to swap it out. I do not regret it. You lose the 1 free memory slot but gain extra m.2. 16gb is enough but more storage is a plus. The Slim 14 also runs much cooler than the g14 and that oled… I cannot go back to ips after looking at oled.
I originally posted G14 or go home but after using the slim 14, Jarrod you were 💯 right and I should have listened. My first Legion.
Hows the battery for the slim vs the G14 in your experience?
Another great addition to the 14" gaming laptop world but the apparent absence of USB 4, 1200p/1600p IPS options, premium dGPU options and front facing speakers hurt the proposition a bit.
They are gonna probably come out with a premium version of this.
@@dalefrancis9414yea
why would you want an IPS screen?
@@derekhatake OLED sucks at lower resolution because of the subpixel matrix ruining Windows text (watch any Monitors Unboxed video on 1440p OLED monitors) and IPS is cheaper, more durable and allowing better battery life with a lot of word processing and web browsing. With the dinky RTX 4060 choking at 1080p in recent games, anything more might be redundant for games and 3d rendering apps. User choice is always best.
@@derekhatakeno burn in issues and they’re usually matte and capable of high refresh rates
@JarrodsTech: you mentioned that the secondary M.2 slot can take double sided NVMe SSDs. I have a brand new 4TB Kingston KC3000 here and it has 3.5mm thickness, but it comes with a thin cooling sticker-pad on top (like some other 4TB SSDs too). My question now is, would you leave that cooling sticker on or would you (or have to) remove it?
...or better look for another 4TB SSD?.. and which (fast) double sided SSD would work?
How to check a laptop's hinge:
Everyone: slowly and gentle
Jarrod: 0:57 0:57 0:57 😂😂😂
This might be my dream laptop but damn the price is $1.5k 😭 might just go with a 14” Lenovo Pro Slim 7 for $950
i'm not sure if this laptop using "gaming" branding, because of the screen specification
+ unique 14.5" for gaming laptop
Why are there no 14 inch laptops with 4070 available in Australia? Keep seeing reviews of awesome lightweight 4070 laptops and then find none of them are actually for sale in Oz.
I was JUST in the market for a 14inch gaming laptop for my wife. We're specifically looking for something on the smaller side and this one fit the bill. With the current intel issue the other available 14inch laptops only being intel based really led the decision. We got the 16gig model so a ram upgrade wasn't necessary down the road though I'd have rather have had the option honestly. That said the AMD based system means I don't have to deal with the intel chip essentially committing suicide in a few years time.
Also, I didn't consider the Asus laptop as Asus is in hot water right now with their warranty program looking like hot garbage.
new to your channel and I really appreciate that you include how linux would run on this
Lenovo make some really good laptops 😊😊
Great video as always jarrod.
2:35 you call that clicky? lol
Looking forward to the 50-series laptops next year. Going to step up from my 4080 laptop to a 5080 or 5090 one
I am surprised that 14" model has ThinkPad like keyboard layout (PgUp/PgDn keys next to arrow keys) and 16" doesn't.
I wish 16" had the same layout.
Grrat review. Thank you!
It's crazy how the Acer Helios 300, is still holding up!!
If this had upgradable ram it would be a 100% buy for me but i just can't justify the cost of the model with 32GB of ram it cost to much even with student pricing and 16GB is not enough in 2023. Going to go withe the slim 5 16" or g14 instead.
Hi Jarrod, i plan on buying this laptop cause it has all the features that i want. Really want to know your opinion and experience about Oled screen on laptop. Do they get burn in easily? Should i worry about burn in?
Been on my legion 5 pro 3070 for a couple years now and ive had literally 0 complaints. I purchased it during the height of the GPU shortage when everything was crazy for 1200 since I couldnt get desktop parts... I was worried but it kept up with all my friends desktops and exceeded many.... I use it elevated on a stand and plugged in 99.8 percent of the time. I did upgrade the ram since it came with the slow stuff.
Do you still recommend it ?
Rtx 3070ti legion 5
DearJarrod! Which slim 5 is better between 14' and 16' , if same price! Plz recommend for me~
I love the white backlighting on the keyboard. It's always so frustrating when they do RGB because it never works properly in Linux.