Tim Minchin - Fat Children (with Lyrics)
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- Do not feed doughnuts to your obese children
You will regret it when they're in their teens
Macca's might shut them up now that they're seven
But they wont forgive you
When they're getting picked last for PE
Dont you see?
Boombalada motherfucker
Have you noticed that your kids are fat?
What you gonna do about that?
What you gonna do?
So you're telling me that your family
Has a history of obesity
You got a polycystic ovary
You say "its just the way God made me"
Its unlikely, statistically
To be a physical thing
But either way it dont explain why you
Are in the queue at Burger King
You can blame it on biology
You can blame your physiology
You can point to genealogy
And your social anthropology
You can say you are an ectomorph
That you just cant get the kilos off
Well you can be what you wanna be
But stop feeding your boy KFC
He weighs 40 kilos and hes only three
He looks like a clean-shaven Pavarotti
Ordering Diet Coke is not the way back
Boombalada kiddie-stuffer
Your kids are fat, have you noticed that?
And you oughta be ashamed
For you only have yourself to blame.
Your 5 year old princess in her size 14 tutu
Only eats pizza like that because you do
She'll be dead of a heart attack
Before your grandchildren are ten
Perhaps you'll consider
A cut-back on extra fries then
Boombalada kiddie-stuffer
Your kids are fat, have you noticed that?
What are you gonna do about that?
What are you gonna do?
So youre telling me that your family
Has a history of obesity
You got a polycystic ovary
Your mum had childhood diabetes
But, and in your case
Theres a reasonably big butt
Do you think its an appropriate treat
The all-you-can-eat at Pizza Hut?
Theres no excuse you silly goose
For a child with a caboose
Like a moose whos eaten too much mousse
Its tantamount to child abuse
Kick them off the fucking couch
Unplug the Playstation
Send them down to the park
If they dont wanna go, make em
Tell them they have to jog
Until their jogging shorts fit em
If they hesitate, ask firmly
If they still resist, hit em
Is this what you want for your little girl and guy?
These chips off the pork chop, for the toffee apples of your eye?
Six Packs of Kit Kats are not the way back
Boombalada Kiddie Stuffer
Your kids are fat, have you noticed that?
And you, oughta be ashamed
For you only have yourself to blame
Your 6 year old miniature Jabba the Hut
Eating half melted Mars Bars from the folds of his gut
He'll be dead of an aneurysm
Before his own children ism ten
Perhaps you'll consider
A cut-back on Taco Bell then
Perhaps you'll consider
A cut-back on Krispy Kreme doughnuts
And Popcorn in bucket-sized boxes
And microwave pizzas or drive through McDonalds
For weeknightly dinners in front of the TV
And notes to the phys-ed instructor saying
Timmy has asthma but he really just gets short of breath
Cos hes 35 kilos above the ideal weight
Of 35 kilos for a nine year old boy
THIS SONG IS NO LONGER PERFORMED
" “Do Not Feed Donuts” is a funny song about not overfeeding your children. It’s not a song about fat people. It’s a song about people who are abusing their kids by forcing a choice on them and not helping their kids make the right choices. But, fuck, I just didn’t feel comfortable doing it. I just didn’t care enough about the issue to sit in a room knowing I was making the overweight people feel sad."
He's not insulting the fat kids, he's ridiculing the parents who allow it. He makes that exceptionally clear throughout the entire song. And he is entirely right.
he is partially right but he's ignoring the roles of the fast food and junk food industries and basically treats them as neutral forces of nature
@@bongle3726 is it not the parents' responsibility to protect children from predatory forces?
@@bongle3726 I'm not sure if you're aussie or not but in Australia junk food industries are wildly different than America, while they are convenient they are NOT cheap so that changes the dynamic a little bit
I think people are kinda missing the point. Our good friend Tim isn't fat shaming. He's not saying fat people are ugly and gross and need to die and stop taking up airplane seats. What he IS saying is that you as a grown up are responsible for your weight. You can make excuses (valid or not) for the state of your health. But when you have a child, and you are responsible for their future and well being, there is NO excuse for teaching them a lifestyle where they come home to pizza and video games. You know better, and you need to be a parent -- meaning bring them up in a way that encourages exercise and healthy eating, vs grabbing 'dinner' at the nearest McDonalds. Even if you think it's too late for you, it's not too late for your kid.
It has nothing to do with fat-shaming. He's a comedian, known for being irreverent, but if you actually get past the initial 'HOW DARE HE,' what he's singing actually makes sense.
fat people just get offended because they know its too late for them to do anything about it, oh wait??? whats that, my 45 year old mate went from fat to body builder fit in under a year because he decided to look after himself>? who would have thought you can do anything if you just get off your lazy arse to do it?
If you are offended by fat references, you are likely fat. therefore unhealthy, and likely need to start an exercise and new diet immediately. am i fat? no i always decide to exercise when i get just a little bit bigger than im comfortable. so get over your insecurities and get to the gym.
Those people don't miss the point, they just decided to take it on the messenger because they don't like the message. I'm a father myself, having some kilogramms to much, but a do sport especially with my daughters. They should learn to enjoy sports, even the suffering and the exaustion but also the good feeling afterwards. Now they motivate me to go out and play and we all are better of now.
Simple said: Tim is f**** right about the whole topic and if someone feels offended: Yes he means you ...
Kaptain Standley not sure if you will read this, but felt the need to respond. As someone who is overweight, whose weight has yo-yo’d due to injuries and mental health problems, I 100% agree with you. Tim himself was overweight and worked hard to lose his weight. He isn’t fat shaming. He just knows to tackle obesity you need to start young.
I disagree (well, less with the point you say he's making and more with why). His comedy style is 'ironically offensive.' This is definitely purposeful and it's absolutely hilarious
Thank you! That's exaxtly the point of his song.
I lost a ton of weight when I grew up, but my skin was too stretched out by then. My torso will always look like a big empty sack. It's not "just a phase." Everything Tim Minchin says here is true
You can try getting surgery to tuck in the skin folds. Nice that you lost weight tho
You could try fasting. Your body would start breaking apart the extra protein that is your loose skin among other health benefits. Just do your research or ask a doctor
Try filling the sack with muscles.
@@jbrisby Unfortunately, core muscles really don't have the capacity to get big enough to fill the most troublesome fat-storing area of our bodies, our tum tums. You might be able to add an inch or two of muscle in that region, but it's not a muscle group that bulks out like your arms, legs, or chest.
You won a war against a disease. That's amazeballs🎉👏💪
"your 5 year old princess in her size 14 tutu" i'm done ...
XD
For me "he looks like a clean shaven Pavarotti", "Your 6 year old miniature Jabba the Hut", "Eating half melted Mars Bars from the folds of his gut" and the one you quoted are the best lines in the entire song
Heh
Haha
Am I the only one who thinks this would make an incredibly strong number in a musical?
UPDATE. I'm obviously not the only one.
Kimberley Spaapen All his songs are so theatrical that you could make a musical with all of them in it, like We Will Rock You or American Idiot.
Ellie Roxburgh I've actually thought about that before. It would be quite awesome. :)
Heck no! I've always thought Tim's material is incredibly theatrical, which was I was so thrilled to hear he'd been hired to write the score for "Matilda". We'll get that compilation show one day :)
Kimberley Spaapen 100 likes. Make this Tim Minchin musical happen!!
If you have no other options, tie a happy meal above a treadmill and set that shit to 10.
El Diablo They'd just roll.
Achedb0b1 It's gotta be better than sitting on their asses.
@@Vauksel too bad children have to have fat shamer like you on these sites.
@@djmoorephx too bad there are idiots like you who'd rather see a kid choke to death from their own fat than simply say that they are obese and a problem
@@theeguy9022 anyone who needs to call another an idiot, needs to take a good look at themselves.
I love how he sounds like he's out of breath when he sings "Notes to the phys-ed instructor saying Timmy has asthma"
I can relate to that line tbh
The last verse is so touching... It's really him standing up for and showing love for these kids.
14 years since Tim sang this song, and unfortunately it feels more relevant than ever! Still a great song thought!
Feeding your kids junk food until they are obese is child abuse. Great song but very true lyrics. :(
Ohh. Your "but" in this context is wrong. A song can be great and still have true lyrics. That´s not objecting itself.
+Equinox thanks for pointing that out I had literally no idea what OP was trying to say!
In this case the word "but" isn't wrong she refering to how true the lyrics are in real life expecting the song to be less based in reality or more exagerated.
Guess I'm being abused better call childline
@@equinox2735 @visforvienetta @Matt_St_Marie Well, grammatically incorrect or worse - I'd bet adding one "t" would have helped to swipe this particular miniature controversy aside. For the better of the children.
I'm fat.. and not offended.. obesity is a fucking big problem and some people need a reality check.. it was easier for my parents to give me a chocolate bar then to tell me the shit they where dealing with.. and wel.. would i rather get chocolate then hear those problems when i was 6 :P its so fucking funny how accurate this song is.. i wish i started losing weight earlier but i just didn't know.. never tried a diet.. now I'm eating healthy and I've lost 80 pounds already. it isn't that hard..
Well said
Well done on losing 80 pounds :)
ryancirrusfan2 thank you
Good job eating like a normal human being, but surely we should also congratulate the people that never got fat in the first place?
Oaklati maybe…but i could also congratulate myself because I've never been anorexic.. but everybody got there own problems to fix… and not fat doesn't mean healthy. :)
+rosalie I agree! And I'm not saying you've not accomplished anything, you've done a great job losing weight ^_^
I was 275 pounds at 11 (I guess I was about 5.2ft tall) now I've been on a long struggle since I was 12 and still got a long way to go with 175 pounds at 22 with 5.7ft...
By the time I've fully undone the damage from being raised the way I was, I'll likely be suffering from all kind of consequences from being overweight for a major part of my life. I've had major setbacks (heavily damaged hip from an inheritable disease and the inability to do sports or walk coming along with it) but it isn't easy to shred pounds for anyone. Please people, don't do this to your children.
It's been 5 years, did you make it?
Now it's 6 and I ask the same question.
@@mileyardgigahertz Uhm holy shit I totally forgot about this post! Yes, I did make it and I actually really love hitting the weight-room now and going for walks, despite having had long periods in my life me weight + hip meant I couldn't walk at all. It's absolutely unbelievable but I'm so happy I managed! Night and day difference and the best change I've ever made.
@@esmee6308im so happy for you!
@@esmee6308fab ❤
"Your five year old princess in her size fourteen tutu" Phahhaa
"Your six year old miniature Jaba the Hut" Hahaha!
I'm sure this gets shit for "fat shaming." Fat adults are a vastly different situation than fat children. If you're an adult your life choices are yours only. If fatness is one of them, it's really nobody's business. That's your body, your choice. Kids really don't have too much choice and it impacts their health for the rest of their lives.
Not when those life choices affect others. When a man with a broken spine has to wait 20 minutes to use the disabled toilets because someone else likes donuts I have a problem, when public health costs massively inflate, I have a problem and when the state has to pay to house, cloth and feed orphans I have a problem.
+Katie Smith And what kid would turn down Mc Donalds voluntarily?
I don't even have kids and this song is making me feel really guilty about how fat they are.
Man this made me hungry.
It's a shame he stopped performing this song. I think it has some good points in it. Although I don't think people should diet just to be smaller size etc, also fat shaming is really bad. But I think parents have a huge responsibility on how kids grow up and how they see food as teens and adults. You also shouldn't restrict too much though, because when your kids go to college they might go completely crazy and just eat the so called "forbidden" foods. Moderation and portion control is the key.
This comment is sad to read because it shows we've known 1) fatshaming doesnt work 2) diets are bullshit since at least 9 years ago (actually longer) but society has not caught up
I know some people suffer from thyroid diseases, and yes: genetics play a role. I have a medical condition that makes weight loss harder. Not impossible. I used to be a chunky monkey, but I managed to loose the extra weight.
The vast majority of obese people only have themselves to blame, including me. Judging by the reactions to this song, I get the feeling this simple fact is rapidly becoming the new first-world taboo. And yes, children are likely to pay the price.
If you don't like this song because it's "targetting obese people", then look in a mirror: you're exactly the kind of person this song is about.
This song is NOT about obesity, it's about an attitude. People playing the victim, serving up excuses for their weight as fast as they're golfing down burgers. You can't honestly defend those people, especially if they have children.
lose*
Also, the most a thyroid problem can do is lower your daily intake needs by about an hundred calories.
The thing about human beings and physics is that for YOU to run a mile require the same amount of energy as for anyone else.
Eat two or three fewer bites of whatever you eat and you should be golden.
+AtariMaxiToriyama Actually (few months late but whatever), the amount of energy it takes for a person to move is not the same for one person as for anyone else. Overweight people firstly have more weight to move, and therefore it takes more energy to do so. Coupled with the fact they tend to have weaker muscles and joints and such from a lack of activity, the risk of injury becomes much larger, and the heart itself has to push itself a lot further just to keep the body moving properly.
Also, as an obese man, losing weight is not easy. I've only made significant progress in the last 2-3 years (lost about 60 pounds so far with perhaps 40 left to go, plus need to gain muscle on the way), but that's by combining consistent daily exercise with significant dietary changes, cooking my own meals, eating fast food at most once a week rather than almost every day, etc.
Lifestyle changes are hard to make and require mental discipline, and discipline is not something a person can just suddenly acquire. If you have the will to make change however, you can cultivate good habits given enough time. Too many people seem to give up before even trying to be healthy or to do anything positive for themselves.
echomjp
Yeah, but generally speaking, the difference in energy requirement for two 220lb, out-of-shape persons is negligible.
The main issue isn't how many calories you might burn, but the actual mental and physical effort that are required. The two are not the same.
An olympic athlete can burn many thousands of calories in a few hours through exercise, but that doesn't mean that it would be equally possible for an obese person of similar weight to do the same. How strong your muscles are, how strong your heart is, how good your joints are, and how good your mental fortitude is all factor in to the ability of a person to effectively lose weight.
For me, losing weight mainly started by simply walking and checking my diet. I can't run for long - I simply don't have the stamina for it being a 270 pound 6'4" guy, but I should by the time I get down to my goal after having lost 60 pounds so far. If I do certain exercises I risk injury, though now that I've built up some muscle groups and gotten more active the list has shrunk.
In short: willpower can get practically anybody to exercise and lose weight, but when you are extremely out of shape dieting is an easier way to lose weight than exercise. The difference in capability for an athlete to lose weight with exercise and a typical joe, let alone a highly obese or out of shape individual, are all significant.
A person who is in good shape can easily get enough exercise in a day to burn off any amount of calories - making it a serious problem that they actually eat enough to stay healthy. An out of shape person on the other hand can only exercise so much without it basically being a death camp. Exercise has to be ramped up over time.
echomjp As the old saying goes, "Abs are made in the kitchen, not in the gym."
Timothy Minchin. You are my musical idol. One of the cleverest musicians, your piano skills are amazing and you can still raise awareness for obesity yet make me laugh as much as I have. You're a Genius!
I wish my parents had heard something like this when i was a kid. It would have made my school years much easier.
All human issues should be talked about. Very funny man.
You can not get fat, or obese, without eating too much. Even of you have a medical condition. Even if you are bed bound. You are capable of losing weight. You do not have am excuse to be over weight. You eat too much. That is the only way you can become overweight. If you eat 0 calories per day you can not possibly within the boundaries of physics and biology continue to be overweight. Take it from me. I used to be overweight for a long time, through childhood and into my late teens. Now I have abs, I got there through diet and exercise. You have no excuse. The only person stopping you from being who you want to be is yourself!!!!!!!
Either you eat too much #OR you're eating the wrong things (eg. fast food) .Not all food is created equal.
You actually can. But only very few people have the disease that causes them to gain fat extremely easily.
Frederik Thomsen but its very common for people to not gain fat easily like me, I could eat 4000cl and nothing would happen even I did that everyday
My grandmother has a interesting condition. While she only eats close to nothing, she still gets fat.
She was always for healthy diets and stuff... Now she can barely move and has as a nice side-effect depressions...
There are conditions, which make you fat, it's just fricking rare.
The rest of my family, by the way, is pretty normal...
Patrick Abraham hey this sounds like a problem with her thyroid, they can check this with a a urine sample for the accurate value and monitor it with a simple blood test. A slow thyroid also causes a vitamin D deficiency so you can get depressed, with the right medication it is totally manageble. I am not overweight but i started to gain weight and feeling tired and down. After taking medication called thyrax duotab in the correct dose and extra Vitamin D in liquid form subscribed by my doctor I am back to normal again. Hope this helps
obesity is quite literally the only problem you can run away from
Very clever. Love it! :)
Not very far until you're out of breath though.
I thank my mum for rationing treats when I was a kid and never forcing me to finish my dinner
why must this man be so consistently fucking awesome?
I love the fact that Tim can write music, completely as a joke, yet it still has soo much more to it than any other 'music' from now a days...
The irony? Overweight people were laughing the hardest. They know what's up.
Don't unplug the Playstation. Tie the controller to a long stick chin-locked to your kid's head. Him chasing it around like a horse after a carrot has got to burn some calories.
Sure wish I could find a "live" video of Tim performing this great song. His stage persona is a big part of his act.
I don't mind obese people as it's their business how they eat and I understand their difficulty in changing habits, which most humans struggle with one way or another. But it's really sad to see them stuff their little children. Subconsciously or not, obese family circles will display dissatisfaction with their child's natural weight and start to interfere so the child becomes like them. It's a vicious cycle and they selfishly seem to forget all the unnecessary pain their child is going to have down the road.
Whether it's themselves or their children, obese people pay little heed to the drain they're putting on the health care system when they end up with catastrophic diseases they can no longer afford to manage. Then they're the first person to cry poor when their insurance can't cover the costs of their irresponsibility.
emjaynie2 As if the US would have a healthcare system rather than a healthcare industry.
emjaynie2 Wow you really took this issue for a trip. You've taken a vague notion of unhealthiness and turned it into an issue of social responsibility. That's madness, or at least prejudice. Don't attempt to discuss the issue publicly without first attempting to understand it.
Max Roderick But it is social responsibility. Example, back in (my) the day, when all the kids whined about school lunch (although it was cooked on site and had a lot of veggies and mash,) if you looked at my graduating class, you can't see one muffin top or boy gut. We were all wearing hip hugger flares and even the cubby kids look down right slim compared to the kids who's parents drive them to school every day past my house. Do you know they make cheese puffs for toddlers? .
Elysa Moulding You're right, there is an issue of social responsibility. We should be promoting nutrition education and putting limits on what foods can be marketed and sold to children. Your point is the opposite of emjaynie2's, who I was responding to. He/she said that obese people are shirking their social responsibilities, not that we have a social responsibility to stem this tide in the next generations of children.
so true though
If you're overweight and an adult, then there is no problem there. But if you have kids that are thats a problem
fat kids only exist because their parents are feeding them too much food. It is a form of child abuse, whether intentional or not.
I've literally listened to this about 20 separate times today, when I should have been doing coursework.
If I fail this, I blame you Tim. For being amazing.
This song will save lives!
Pure brilliance Tim minchin leaks talent in large quantities into everything he does. He is one of very few people that can actually successfully be a comedian while retaining his musicianship
Such a beautiful song.
I encourage everybody to read his quote on why he stopped performing this song. You can find it on the description of this song on genius. I think that it provides interesting background on this song and Tim's thoughts on it.
If you can't be bothered, he stopped doing it because he didn't want to make fat people in the audience feel bad.
His point was valid - it's making fat kids feel bad, and making kids (fat or thin) feel bad is mean. However, the original point about bad parenting was also valid.
It's a good thing that the song doesn't target fat people or fat kids in general, but people who don't bring up their kids well.
Wow I love your channel I’m showing this to my friends and so the can sub and I love the *******
This song alone is the inspiration I've used to lose about 4 stone (56 pounds-ish) over the last year and a bit.
Brilliant song - not only that some Amazing piano playing by Tim.
I think the song is really funny. I love how he approaches pretty serious issues and makes you think about them while still making it hysterical.
I agree with you, my point was that just because someone's fat doesn't mean they should be judged any more than a skinny person would be, because a lot of the comments here were attacking obese people in general.
I'm about 20 pounds overweight, but my parents had nothing to do with it. I always ate healthy and still do. I just really like beer haha. I love the message of this song, though. It's very blunt and honest. I now have a son who is a year and a half old, and I'm making sure he knows that sweets and unhealthy things are treats and not everyday things. Luckily, he LOVES fruits and veggies. People are so sensitive about this topic but it needs to be addressed more frequently.
Just hearing the "sweets and unhealthy things are treats" sounds kind of funny to take something you know is unhealthy and hold it up a special, a treat, perhaps a reward. It is also possible to make fresh strawberries in season, dried mango, and really good cheese a treat. The best chocolate in place of candy bars and lots of real food can leave kids with a disinterest in the chemical/artificial flavours in mass produced food. They will feel the stale oily taste in their mouth when offered a cheesee and may reject it. Just a thought. My kids did not even know what a donut was until we learned about Sweden when they were 7-12, that was who was credited with the invention of the donut so we went to a local bakery and got one each. Happy so say they might have had 3-5 more so far in the past 7 years, just not that interested. Becoming a great cook can help, especially if you let your son cook with you.
20 pounds overweight? That's fitter than most people on earth 😂
As a wise man once said: 'Why have abs when you can have kebabs'
+Wild Mitchell you can have abs and kebabs
thats even better
Ellie Pearce Yeah, when pigs fly...
Or my metabolism picks up! x'D
Well.. Having had both... I prefer abs... Yes there's more effort involved and you have to get off your ass (difficult I know) but you don't die at 30 :D
+Wild Mitchell why not both
Why do you all listen to satirical songs, but when someone comments in satirical way, the joke flies right over your heads?
I really don't understand why parents feed their children until they are obese. Odds are they are fat themselves so why put your child into a situation where they face all the extremely difficult challenges you face. He'll use your kid to get you in shape... The bastards are full of energy.
Until they're teens and get pocket money there's little excuse. If your teen gets big through the food they chose it's a hard conversation to have with a sensitive teen but a few tears are worth their health. My son can demolish junk food and loves video games but is skinny, I'm begging him to eat more, my poor daughter only looks at chocolate and puts on the pounds so luck does come into it but only to a point.
MrMinusguy My son I like me, I can sit on my bum, eat crap and stay fairly slim also and maybe your parents are made like this but you can't have got big overnight and I do feel for you because I've never seen a kid turn down sweets and pizza so if you buy they'll keep eating it.
I feel ya, spent a long time in the same boat, depression and all. Is it possible for you to get counselling or therapy to address the root issues behind your stress eating? Seems like you're really close to having the right attitude to make changes. I flushed my 20's down the toilet and managed to start getting my shit together once I turned thirty. It's absolutely not too late to make changes.
MrMinusguy you can't realistically remove stress from your life, but you can develop new strategies for dealing with it and soothing yourself. You seem pretty self-aware- If you can recognize when your thoughts are leading you to bad feelings which lead to self-destructive behaviours, you can interrupt the cycle. A big part is being able to recognize and call yourself on your own bullshit, haha. Best of luck! :)
That it depends on the individual. For me the pressure ofthe comments from people simply was the catalyst for making the change.
Depends on individual mindset, personality, etc.
This will have on affect on people similar to myself, it may not for people in a different mind set.
Well done on losing 120 pounds hey. thats pretty fucking impressive. Happy for you that you a way to make it happen for yourself.
Anyone who uses the “Obesity just runs in my family!” excuse needs their children taken away or serious mental help.
NO child is fat by default. If your kid is fat, it is 100% unarguably your own fault, because you control what goes in their body and they pick up eating habits from you. Your kid is fat because you either have no spine and cave every time they cry for fast food or you’re lazy yourself and want to make excuses so you can keep indulging in endless fast foods and massive portions.
I’m saying this as a fat person who, technically, has a predisposition to have more weight issues because my birthmom ate like shit when she was pregnant with me. I still fight with binge eating disorder that manifested after a traumatic experience I went through. I deal with depression and it makes me want to have something fattening, sweet, or salty in my mouth just to feel more alive, and I’m too down to cook healthy meals a lot of the time. But I’ve lost 50lbs because I don’t use it as an excuse to give up (anymore- I definitely used to) and keep piling on weight and blaming everything but myself. No matter WHAT condition or issue you have, you are still biologically capable of losing weight.
Stop using the “fat shaming” and “I have a family history of-“ card to justify hurting your children and yourself.
people become fat because they EAT TOO MUCH FOOD. There are some _very_ rare genetic conditions which can cause a person to gain weight, but the vast majority of obese people do not have these conditions. They just like to eat...
Hard to overcome but it certainly can be done.
Hope you are staying the course, I am rooting for you!
- random stranger on the internet :D
When someone says obesity runs in their family you should remind them that their waistline says nobody in their family ever runs.
I've listened to this GOD KNOWS HOW MANY TIMES! Still love it! :) I saw him in Brighton this year, he's even better live! :P I LOVE TIM MINCHIN :D xx
Eating ready made meals and fast food is actually more expensive than making balanced meals at home. Yes, if you decide to go all organic or gluten free or whatever the latest, and completely irrelevant to weight, diet trend is currently making the rounds it's expensive. However, since even the most hippie new age dietitian will tell you that ultimately the biggest factor is calories, and making a salad for lunch costs a LOT less than the Large Big Mac combo at McDonald's, it's pretty clear that a lot of people invent cost as an excuse. Also, having a genetic predisposition or medical condition makes it MORE imperative to actively seek to eat healthy, not less. I'm really tired of the weird way PC has decided to take a legitimate health issue and turn it into some social cause. Being obese kills people and is almost always preventable or fixable. For some it is definitely harder, but it's doable, and necessary. And tiptoeing around the issue doesn't actually help anyone. Particularly if they're feeding their kids like this. I can't think of anything else you can legally do to your children that will potentially disable and/or kill them. Seems rather odd that everyone is fine with killing kids as long as it's with McDonald's and frozen dinners. . .
yep. but it makes uni so much easier
Michelangelo Markus I do think that it should be legal for Social Services to take children away from their parents if they're being over fed to the point of being obese.
A good friend of mine was taken into care when she was in her early teens. She (to use her own words) "had food shoved down her throat to shut her up" since the age of 3. She has dealt/is dealing with bullying, depression, anxiety and self loathing because she got teased because of her weight. She ate because she was upset and she was upset all the time because she got bullied. Never ending circle.
Although as of the last year or so she's lost loads of weight. I think she's halved her body weight from what she was. Very proud of her.
Michael Hart how's Stu and Bret. Sad to hear about Owen.
This is just sattire gold.
Thats endomorph tim minchin, ectomorphs are tall and do not gain weight
he knows this, it's as if the fat person is saying "I'm an ectomorph, but just overweight and can't lose it" IF THAT MAKES SENSE
he said in an interview YEARS ago that he made an honest mistake and chose not to change it for the reason's Gilan Wheat said. But he realized only after he started singing the song (possibly after this recording) that he had the wrong term. I wish I could remember where I read that.
Dennis V How do they not exist? Are you saying that people aren't genetically predisposed towards having certain body types?
Musical genius
My favourite tim song atm right beside the fence, such a talented musician, hilarious comedian, and brings up really important social issues
He is a singer, musician and a comedian, but by no lengths is he a philospher.
You know, to gauge society. May I point out I've scrolled through the comment section and found not one person saying they're fat and Tim offended them and A LOT of people complaining about the above and saying no one is ever fat for reasons beyond their control. I know some of you have friends who do scapegoat their weight IRL, but at least on here, I'm starting to think you all just make up people so you can be mad at them.
+joe sharman Tim's Australian they're our well known takeaways. I thought most of them originated in the U.S. but I could be wrong
well also remember this: only people that understand what they are listen to tim mincin
Ectomorphs are naturally thin. He means endomorph.
(I'll see myself out).
I'll think you'll find that was classic Minchin irony.
'Only eats pizza like that because you do' makes you think how your eating habits encourage your children's. I promise to do better...but I'm not offended, it needed saying.
In some areas (especially rural/ remote australia) convenience foods (tinned and frozen high fat) are so much cheaper than fresh foods. It is not laziness that drives the diet but what families can afford. But Maccas etc- keep the kids away!
eNDomorph*; an ectomorph has a hard time putting on weight
EXACTLY! That annoys me so much
Could be purposely. Many people don't really do things like research and just... use the first scientific-sounding term they find. I bet, there is a fat person somewhere out there, who has claimed to be an ectomorph. ^^
Kohlenwasserstoffwesen Yeah, I was thinking about that as well
that's the joke tho
Tim once said (back when he still preformed this song) that he just forgot which one was which when he wrote the lyrics. By the time he realized his mistake it was too late. Because of that he went with the "the subject of this line didn't do his/her research and so got it wrong" excuse.
OMG! I agree with this song so much
i'm pretty fat myself and i
Nedy Ovalles couldn't agree more.
I see it as a weakness that Tim basically pulled back on this song (he played it ever).
Damn , even though it's meant to be funny the lyrics are awesome and make sense .
I love the way this song morphs from funny to poignant. Fantastic!
If I ever have kids, and I'm fat, (one of those two things have a significantly higher chance of happening than the other) i'm going to make sure my kids are healthy. they dont need to be a superstar but goddamit they ain't gonna be fat like me
So true! Somebody had to say it. You're awesome Tim!!
ENJOY YOUR HEALTHY CHRISTMAS DINNER EVERYONE JAY
the weight doesnt change too much cuz u get more muscles.. but u do lose fat. and what u eat in combo with exercice is what u need..
I can laugh about it now but oh God how I hated myself so much growing up because I was fat and only now that I'm 19, moving out and trimming up that I actually can see that none of it was my fault. Although not on purpose, very irresponsible and ignorant parents have ruined the lives of so many kids, it's obscene. Other than that, brilliant track!
Good for you! It's a harsh track but I hear it as a criticism/challenge to those parents who make excuses for what could be seen as child abuse. There are children who grow up encouraged to abuse food and that's not ok. You deserve to feel so proud of yourself for re-learning healthier ways that show more love to your body.
i love this song! i have it on my ipod and i listen to it all the time lol! i have been to see him three times now, he is immense!
Is there a live version of this anywhere?
The song isn't aimed at overweight children. It's aimed at irresponsible parents that don't give their kids a good diet. And some things (like health) are a bit more important than self esteem.
One thinks that if one were to Google the definition of ectomorph; one will discover that an ectomorph is one of lean physique not one of a larger, fatter build.
Callum Lamont One will discover that morphotypes doesn't exist
Lakiriofly No, you're wrong.
linda Kelly Yes, i'm right
@Rildepigen Silence doesn't necessarily denote pity or disagreement. Sometimes audiences just sit and listen and enjoy anyway. Plus, if you'd listened, the audience cheered and clapped at the end, where it's most traditional to do so.
I disagree with 2 things.
1. You should never hit your child, especially if it was your fault.
2. Overweight people should not jog. It is completly senseless. If someone who is overweight and has low musculatur goes jogging, they will damage their bones, which is extremely unhealthy. Also they can basically jog for only about 500 meters. They might be out of breath after that, but they will lose near to no weight because of that, because they simply didn't do much. Also this point makes their motivation go down, which is why they are more likely to stop doing it. An overweight person should go powerwalk until he/she lost some weight and gained some muscles. Only then they should think about going jogging.
no matter how many times i listen to this i still laugh, especially when he says 'your fave year old princess in her size four-teen tutu' lol
can't imagine the amount of hate this guy gets on a SJW-dominated platform like Tumblr
+Gstrangeman96 Dude, people love Tim on Tumblr. But yeah there's probably the few who get more passionate at hating this song than trying to actually solving the issue the the song addresses, which is weird AF.
+Gstrangeman96 I dare say Tim could give a flying fuck what any of the poor people or fat people think of him, let alone the fucktard xtrians.
If you actually went and looked you'd see that Tumblr adores him, but then I guess you wouldn't be able to pointlessly whine about it then would you?
Tumblr loves him
Gstrangeman96 he's very liberal, and very likeable. The only people I've ever met who don't like him are super hardcore Christians
Tim's the best comedic musician to EVER hit the stage... Thats my asshole... ;)
haha no wonder so many people get offended with this lol id bet that this would go down way better live for the simple reason the people at the show had the motivation too get up from a computer and go outside lol
Anyone who took it offensively would have been too lazy to walk out anyway.
Mate, you are fantastic! What a way to get the message across. Keep telling it like it is! And now I have to go through all of your related videos to find out what I have been missing out on, all these years!
One error - Ectomorphs are skinny, find it hard to put weight on.
+Saxon Greene No. He said that the fat person says it is an ectomorph. Trying to cover their size with lies.
+Saxon Greene I think he meant endomorph.
I am a little overweight due to PCOS despite my healthy diet and active lifestyle. I totally agree with Tim though. Don't feed your kids crap. Especially when they are already suffering from the damage those foods are causing to their little bodies.
As someone that was until recently spent his entire life either obese/morbidly obese, i do find this song to be partially offensive. Don't get me wrong, it's message is suitable. However, it's not always the parents fault. No parents can be perfect. Instead of being at home making sure i ate right, they worked their arses off to provide me with a greater level of education that the vast majority would not be able to afford. So blaming the parents for their ways of guiding their kids isn't necessarily the best option... with everything there are consequences and i'm sorry, but at any age you know what food is good and bad for you, as well as what would be a suitable amount of it.
Perhaps you should stop blaming yourself so much and acknowledge the fact that your folks aren't perfect. Yeah sure, they got you to a uni, or wherever, which is admirable. But they shouldn't of neglected the other aspects of bringing up a kid. If there is a pile of salad or a pile of chips, OF COURSE the kid will go for the chips. Because to most kids they taste nicer. That's what adults are for - to make sure the kid picks the better choice. That's called parenting.
I was a fat kid. I'm still fat. And I love this song!
Tim Minchin has a personal axe to grind with this song, as apparently he was an overweight child and a huge part of that was down to his diet (he is the 'Timmy' mentioned at the very end of the lyric). So no, the song isn't entirely fair, and its sentiment should be taken with a pinch of salt.
I disagree, though, with your assertion that "at any age you know what food is good and bad for you". That's not true. While our bodies may instinctively crave certain foods, no one is born with a conscious knowledge of what foods are good and bad; we have to be taught, and as the song points out, many children eat poorly because they copy adults, because copying adults is how we learn to do most things. It's completely possible to overwrite instinct with habit, and of course there are many other reasons why we might develop poor eating habits, such as depression. Not to mention that junk food contains caffeine and processed sugars, which are addictive. Your statement suggests that, EVERY single time ANY person sits down to eat junk food, they are making a conscious, fully-informed decision to sabotage their own health. I would say the truth is much more complicated than that.
They did a study on young toddlers, and gave them a tray full of food so they could select their own meal. Obviously to begin with, the unhealthy food, the sugary stuff would be eaten first and the healthier options would be left on the tray. But after a few days of this, the babies themselves chose to eat the healthier food over the tastier alternative. I would therefore agree with you that most humans naturally know what is good for them, but whether they have the will power to do it is trickier. It is always going to be much easier for a child if they have the healthier food provided as opposed to the unhealthier food being their only alternative.
So I think that it is a parents responsibility for the diet of their children as if they can at least provide the good stuff then the child will work out for themselves how to eat properly.
Nick Winstone I would really like a link to this study, as I find this sort of research very interesting.
Daniel It was a segment on a TV show "The One show" from BBC 1. I remember it quite clearly as it struck a chord! I have been tying to find it again recently but since it was a while ago it has been evading me
Sat here in 2020, still one of my favourite Tim songs of all time
i really like tim, but he lost me at "hit them". NEVER hit your child.
The song was written in 2006 when corporal punishment was still the norm.
@@Master_Exploder5000 No it wasn't a norm.
But Tim obviously doesn't advocate hitting children, it's a joke of exaggeration.
'Have you noticed that your kids are fat?' LOLOLOLOL that is SOOOOOO classicly funny... LOL, i laughed for ages when he sang that :P
I don't know what it is. I'm not offended in any way, but something about this song makes me really uncomfortable. Don't get me wrong, I love Tim, the song its self is good, and it's not an SJW thing (i hate those rightious assholes). I think it's that the crowd laughed a few too many times. like at the parts where Tim warns that these children are going to die young. You can joke about anything, and the jokes in this song are funny, but lines like that weren't jokes, and those getting laughs from the crowd felt really callous, like they didn't care about Tim's point of making the song.
Because he typically talks about things in a cynical way , most people are also looking for the point in the song to laugh.
in a comedy show you laugh at everything its the atmosphere
I think it's just shock humour - it's so dark, sad and true that it kinda gets a laugh out of us on the factor of "Holy sh*t, the guy actually said that!" Though I definitely see where you're coming from, saying a kid is going to die from diabetes or a cardiac arrest isn't your normal joke, and I can get that one can feel uncomfortable.
Oh and sorry for replying to a dead comment. :/ Just wanted to through my two-cents into the mix.
Better Then Normal I agree.... the audience laughed at some odd times
Good luck, man. Cutting out sugar, drinking mainly water, and only eating when you are actually hungry are more than half the battle. Find a physical activity that you enjoy (walking, jogging, frisbee, whatever) and pursue it.
Great, by targeting a certain group of obese people, now (most if not all of) his audience are gonna lump all obese people together like this. Just what everyone needs eh.
That's actually why he stopped performing the song and that it isn't on any of his records.
A little too late, but good to know.
Shame he gave up to the pressure... 50% of USA children are obese. That gives you 49% of lazy fatfcks with rolling around on electric wheelchair in their future. Every time I see one it just boils my blood.
Arrynek01 Well the actual statistics from the CDC doesn't agree with your percentage. That said I agree with your point.
lol so many fat-phobic people.
"The desire not to be hungry as an evolutionary holdover? Doesn't exist."
WTF? Support your assertion please.
"Feeling uncomfortable? Maybe if you comfort eat in the first place"
Well, that's the reason for most of the obesity. I was specifically referring to the aversion to hunger discomfort however.
Truth is so hard to swallow THANK YOU FOR MAKING US LAUGH AND THINK!!!
that way he says bombalada... so awesome
this is so true
as a kid who grew up in such a family I used to be the fattest kid at school...
until I became a teen with severe case of depression
I hated myself
until one day I became anorexic....
Have just become a fan of this man.Bravo!
lol... i love Tim Minchin!!! :)
in germany it is a grocery-shop, low in price and you can find it in EVERY city and smal town!
This is SUCH a good song. It just speaks of the tragedy of these children so well. I was just watching a video about obese children at a health summer camp and most of the things they say come back to the things in this song. Their eating and exercise habits and how their parents are too lax in many ways. 'Adam chose not to return to the camp' like what?? He shouldn't have a say in that. MAKE him go! you are the parent. You can''t give your kid pizza every nights for dinner are you crazy??!!
He's giving out to parents, who are ruining the lives of their children, and blaming it on any reason other than their bad parenting.