Really depends, a VR headset is pretty expensive so you would have to be pretty into it for it to be worth it. I would say for most people it wouldn't be worth it tho. But if you feel like it's worth it, then it is for you
I'm going to second Milkman. Totally worth the headset cost. It was literally the first game I purchased/downloaded after I got it connected to Steam. Got it in late April and already have well over 100 hours in the cockpit.
Also, if you don't have the necessary DCS hardware (HOTAS, etc.) you're looking at just as much if not more cost for all of that hardware than you would be looking at for a VR headset. Especially if you wind up going with top of the line Virpil Hardware which will set you back about $1k. Quality rudder pedals can get up to about $500, and you're already well past a Valve Index cost.
I see what you mean about the prices and that they can go up and above a vr headset, but if you're just starting out and not sure if you like the game you can get a thrustmaster beginner hotas for 50-60$ (Tflight hotas X) and you can also play with a controller if you just wanna try it out. I have a friend who plays it on controller.
Dcs with a squadron is insanely fun. Doing coordinated missions with people in all sorts of Diffrent roles with human awacs is something that vtol vr just can't top
Vtol has a more realistic radar and heat signatures then DCS, there radar panels may not be as realistic but the actual mechanic is far more realistic.
I also recommend yaw pedals with toe breaks for both games. VTOL offers a much better VR experience but DCS is as close to real life as yu could get, almost to a fault if you're just looking for a quick experience. VTOL is nothing short of amazing, Jetborn Racing is by the same dev and is very fun also.
I think it was an issue with steam (Also it was without DLSS and Multithread as they weren't in the game yet), but i switched to standalone and now that sort of performance is what i get in vr with everything maxed out DLSS off (Multithread is however on)
Here is how I differentiate the two games mentally. When I play VTOL VR I get the feeling of an arcadey flight game where you can just do cool shit with your friends have a bit of fun blowing shit up while having laughs while keeping it semi realistic and having the missions relatively small. When I play DCS I get the feeling of "Oh shit, that's why real fighter pilots need hundreds of flight hours and years of classroom and out of classroom instruction to even be considered combat effective.". That is also the reason why most western air forces would rather loose their planes and equipment than their pilots because they judge their pilots to be more valuable than the planes they fly.
Check out the latest update so. They added electronic warfare and full radar cross section simulation which even DCS doesn't have yet. Of course its not apples to apples comparison but VTOL is getting better and better on realism, but I agree feels more arcade due to the lack of real life systems.
@@uplink44 DCS has some RCS simulation I believe, the EW is very limited in official modules/DLCs because Eagle Dynamics (creators) bases everything they add on official, mostly declasified, information known about the airplanes
Vtol vr is the most immersive flight sim I've ever played. And I've been playing them for 25 years at least. Sure the graphics aren't DCS or flight sim 2020, but that doesn't matter. I also like requesting takeoff and landing clearance by literally asking and ATC responding. In a 2.8gig sim. Literally thr coolest shit ever lol. Worth the 299 price of a quest 2 all day.
you can do that in DCS multiplayer too (request clearances)... some servers have players acting as AWACS directing everyone else on their team by only playing on the map screen and making radio callouts. I remember watching a DCS player who had no idea he had merged until the AWACS player called it out over radio lol, he ended up surviving and getting the kill iirc too because of it.
@@SA80TAGEok? but you can't do it in singleplayer lol. why can't dcs players just accept that a game made by a single dude in brazil is more immersive than dcs for the VAST majority of players. most people don't literally have a plane cockpit sitting on their desk
Vtolvr is pretty much Dcs-lite with a little less realistic flight models, and less planes... but a LOT more modern and doesn't feel like the game is heavily outdated. (Edit: By dcs feeling outdated, I mean the UI and the mission editor.)
@@hyperx72 Honestly agreed there with the fact most DCS aircraft are either older block aircraft, i.e the F/A-18C and F-16C. Or are straight up aircraft that arent even in service anymore, like the F-14A/B
@@hyperx72 because the "newest" planes cannot be accurately modelled for DCS's realism.... the inner workings of jets like the F-22 are still classified. They also need the licensing brand rights for each plane (their makers are still private corporations afterall).... this is why you can no longer buy Tom Clancy's HAWX, their licencing rights ran out.
2:19 is your card ok? Im running almost highest settings with a similar card to an 3060 at about 140 fps in singleplayer 2:40 8m playing 8n a controller and im having so much fun. You dont need a joystick if you want to be good. Im cooking my friend who is on a joystick alnost everytime
My card is fine, they've massively improved performance in vr since I made this video. It's alot better for me now than it was back then, however 140 still seems very good for a 3060 with everything almost maxed out in vr Respect to you for being able to play on a controller, when my hotas broke I almost couldn't play for a while, the Tomcat was impossible and the other jets were very difficult apart from maybe the Hornet, but hey, that's just me being very bad at controller
So for the bombing example you are showing DCS is very realistic and Vtol is more of a game. I don't play either game, but I plan to. My perspective, after studying on both platforms. DCS is a simulator / Game, and VTOL is a game. In my case, I want the sim part I want to have to work to get good. If I wanted a game only War Thunder would be an option. VTOL and War Thunder is a better comparison IMHO. as they are in the same class.
I wouldn't really say vtol and War Thunder are in the same class as war thunder is a pure game while vtol is more of a simulator light, it's a very good entrance point into the world of simulators if you come from something like war thunder. Sure, it's not as in depth as DCS but still has some of those elements
VTOL VR imo is for people who want the feeling of being a fighter pilot without the immense amount of knowledge required to actually fly them. The DLC is also reasonably priced so people don’t need to break the bank for a new plane or helicopter. It’s good for people who want a more casual approach to air combat without it being Ace Combat levels of goofy (no shade to Ace Combat tho). It’s also a good gateway drug into more complex aviation games. DCS is for people who really like military aviation, and often have setups (and PCs) specifically built for it. It’s built to be as true to life as possible, to where you need to actually put lots of time and effort into learning how to properly fly the aircraft. The fact it is so complex is also why new aircraft modules are upwards of $100 EACH, making them prohibitively expensive for some and primarily aimed at serious aircraft enthusiasts. That’s the difference in my opinion. VTOL is for new aviation enthusiasts or casual gaming, and DCS is for realism.
100% agree with you, It's nice having a game where you can take your non aviation friends in for some fun time flying while not having them completely clueless about what is happening, while still not being as you said Ace combat or War Thunder
As a 50 year old with decades of experience in the flight sim genre and hundreds of dollars of hotas and flight sim gear, I disagree. VTOL is hands down the better VR experience and in several important way, it’s more realistic and immersive than DCS. The fact that I works immediately with little to no setup and has FULL voice commands for wingmen and ATC right out of the box make it a fantastic overall experience. in DCS world some key thing is always broken and you spend more time setting up and tweaking than you will doing missions. Heaven forbid you try single player only to find the AI is worse than in VTOL.
Unfortunately yes, while you do have to spend some money to enjoy it, 1k is very much an overstatement. For vtol you can get a quest 2 for about 400$, not sure how much the 3 goes for but thats less than half, and for DCS if you're into the realistic planes a 50$ T-flight would do, that's how i started and played my first 600 or so hours on and it was great, I loved it! If you would like to go further with dcs however you could eventually get up to 1k, but this would still take awhile if you don't just go for the best gear straight away.
This popped up after I started playing VTOLVR a lot recently. I started with DCS awhile back and it's great when you want to get into the weeds and learn all the tiny details about how to use the plane. VTOL is my quick pick up and go. This sim side is great and has been getting better, hell they even simulate radar cross sections better than DCS. It's just so immersive and easy to pick up even if I haven't played in a while.
0:39 I disagree. For me personally, the 300 bucks for my quest 2 would have been absolutely worth it, even if i could only use it for VTOL. Multiple DLCs, sets of rudder pedals and a 500€ quest 3 later, I still consider it worth it. The community greatly enhances the game with the Multiplayer, custom missions, liveries, mods and sub communities that focus on stuff like pvp, milsim or aerial acrobatics. I found my people and favorite game of all time in VTOL VR. And I urge you to give it a chance as well, IF you already own a VR headset. I do understand it's a big leap to take.
I mean, they're good at different things, I like the bigger scope and scale of DCS, and if your dream is to fly one specific aircraft, there is nothing quite like it. That being said, I do love the simplicity of Vtol, it's a game you can invite your non sim buddies to play with. Also the clicky cockpit is a massive bonus. Oooh the clicks...
I'm going to be honest, I completely forgot about that. Thank you for reminding me! Although even if I had thought about it, I don't really want to make claims about how it is because I don't have the dlc. Should probably have mentioned it though..
@@ChickentNug I'm not sure if Olympus will make combined arms obsolete.... Olympus being the RTS game mode they're adding where players can control all units like a command and conquer game
@@gordonpetter2866 its actually bad to use HOTAS in vtol, you'd need somewhere to put the HOTAS, then anytime you need to flick a switch in the cockpit you have to grab the controllers, interact, then put it down repeat
VtolVR is a nice start in flight sims, if you are into those stuff like pushing buttons and complicated systems, DCS is essential for you. If you just like to brrrt groun targets, you can just play war thunder in VR. Also, appreciate your ajs37 viggen shots, viggen is a heartbreaking jet, f/a 18 is a targetbreaking jet
Not that the standalone needed any more benefits over steam... No but for real, i wasn't actually aware of that since i play the steam version, i might just have to give standalone a go
@@Jeppef39 probably late but if it helps you can transfer all your steam licenses over to the stand alone version and vice versa. Might mess up the 50% first purchase discount though so do that first.
I'd try the campaigns, they were pretty fun. You could also try and join some multiplayer servers, there's usually a few running coop missions which you can join
I already own DCS beta and bought FC3, but I just got a headset for Christmas and was thinking about maybe getting VTOL VR as well. This video was actually really helpful and I wish I had saw it before now because I might have put more research into guides and a “training” plan
FC3 aint great for VR, since you can't click the cockpit controls, requires much more control setup since keyboard aint convenient for VR users. I regret getting FC3, was much happier with a full fidelity A-10CII Tank Killer, and was carpet bombing convoys within a week. No training planes needed either, just get the plane/s you actually have passion for. But playing VR it literally has to be full fidelity, for me at least.... don't have enough controls on my HOTAS for FC3 modules.
@@SA80TAGE I figured this out really quick, I had to peek under the headset because I was missing keys, and trying to fly with the vr HOTAS which was not working properly either, but I didn’t have my thrust master stick memorized yet to use it
Can confirm dcs is not allways fun in vr with a 1080ti, but then you get into a tomcat and it's all good. But vtol vr is an amazing experience and for playing with my buddies who owns vr headsets but no hotas and aren't plane nerds is priceless, so there's the more entry level aspect of vtol vr that I really like, and also not having to get out my flight stick etc for when ever I wanna fly. I just plop on my vr headset and go.. Both games have it's strengths and weaknesses in my eyes and can't really be compared because of the fact one requires a hotas and one doesn't..
Yeah unfortunately that's what i expected from a 1080.. Really feel like it should be able to run it better, since it's a really good card, actually it's been 7 years since it's release... Damn time flies, anyway yes i could also see how vtol would be really good if you had friends who weren't as interested in planes so you could just jump in and have fun. Unfortunately for me tho, none of my friends have vr. Well that isn't exactly true, but the ones who actually have it are interested in planes and do play dcs instead...
Kinda forgot about the download link to the Skyhawk in the description, sorry. But here it is: github.com/heclak/community-a4e-c/releases
Vtol vr is definitely worth the headset alone. It’s literally the only vr/ game in general I play these days
Really depends, a VR headset is pretty expensive so you would have to be pretty into it for it to be worth it. I would say for most people it wouldn't be worth it tho. But if you feel like it's worth it, then it is for you
I'm going to second Milkman. Totally worth the headset cost. It was literally the first game I purchased/downloaded after I got it connected to Steam. Got it in late April and already have well over 100 hours in the cockpit.
Also, if you don't have the necessary DCS hardware (HOTAS, etc.) you're looking at just as much if not more cost for all of that hardware than you would be looking at for a VR headset. Especially if you wind up going with top of the line Virpil Hardware which will set you back about $1k. Quality rudder pedals can get up to about $500, and you're already well past a Valve Index cost.
I see what you mean about the prices and that they can go up and above a vr headset, but if you're just starting out and not sure if you like the game you can get a thrustmaster beginner hotas for 50-60$ (Tflight hotas X) and you can also play with a controller if you just wanna try it out. I have a friend who plays it on controller.
@@CosmiicCandii I bought a T.16000M on the Amazon Warehouse for 100eur (joystick+accelerator pedal) . I agree that other cost 300+eur
Realism = DCS
Immersive fun with friends = VTOLVR
dcs still can be very silly with friends, for me even more the main diff is graphics and more arcadey
Indeed @@Spacebaryonyx
Dcs with a squadron is insanely fun. Doing coordinated missions with people in all sorts of Diffrent roles with human awacs is something that vtol vr just can't top
Vtol has a more realistic radar and heat signatures then DCS, there radar panels may not be as realistic but the actual mechanic is far more realistic.
I also recommend yaw pedals with toe breaks for both games. VTOL offers a much better VR experience but DCS is as close to real life as yu could get, almost to a fault if you're just looking for a quick experience. VTOL is nothing short of amazing, Jetborn Racing is by the same dev and is very fun also.
It's kind of simplified DCS. All the fun of DCS without the 500 page manuals to learn how to fly an aircraft.
part of the fun in dcs is learning the hard way
that's the entire draw of DCS though, learning to fly the aircraft.
you need more subs
vtol vr is the best experience hands down
dcs is a sim and vtol is a game. simple as that
VTOL is sim lite. Ace combat is a game.
Skill issue, I can run dcs vr with a 1070 ti and an i3 12100F🥱
I think it was an issue with steam (Also it was without DLSS and Multithread as they weren't in the game yet), but i switched to standalone and now that sort of performance is what i get in vr with everything maxed out DLSS off (Multithread is however on)
Here is how I differentiate the two games mentally. When I play VTOL VR I get the feeling of an arcadey flight game where you can just do cool shit with your friends have a bit of fun blowing shit up while having laughs while keeping it semi realistic and having the missions relatively small. When I play DCS I get the feeling of "Oh shit, that's why real fighter pilots need hundreds of flight hours and years of classroom and out of classroom instruction to even be considered combat effective.". That is also the reason why most western air forces would rather loose their planes and equipment than their pilots because they judge their pilots to be more valuable than the planes they fly.
Check out the latest update so. They added electronic warfare and full radar cross section simulation which even DCS doesn't have yet. Of course its not apples to apples comparison but VTOL is getting better and better on realism, but I agree feels more arcade due to the lack of real life systems.
@@uplink44 DCS has some RCS simulation I believe, the EW is very limited in official modules/DLCs because Eagle Dynamics (creators) bases everything they add on official, mostly declasified, information known about the airplanes
Vtol vr is the most immersive flight sim I've ever played. And I've been playing them for 25 years at least. Sure the graphics aren't DCS or flight sim 2020, but that doesn't matter. I also like requesting takeoff and landing clearance by literally asking and ATC responding. In a 2.8gig sim. Literally thr coolest shit ever lol. Worth the 299 price of a quest 2 all day.
you can do that in DCS multiplayer too (request clearances)... some servers have players acting as AWACS directing everyone else on their team by only playing on the map screen and making radio callouts. I remember watching a DCS player who had no idea he had merged until the AWACS player called it out over radio lol, he ended up surviving and getting the kill iirc too because of it.
@@SA80TAGEok? but you can't do it in singleplayer lol. why can't dcs players just accept that a game made by a single dude in brazil is more immersive than dcs for the VAST majority of players. most people don't literally have a plane cockpit sitting on their desk
Vtolvr is pretty much Dcs-lite with a little less realistic flight models, and less planes... but a LOT more modern and doesn't feel like the game is heavily outdated. (Edit: By dcs feeling outdated, I mean the UI and the mission editor.)
While I do agree with you that Vtol could be described as DCS lite, I don't fully get how Dcs would feel outdated?
@@Jeppef39 Mostly since DCS doesn't use the newest planes
@@hyperx72 Honestly agreed there with the fact most DCS aircraft are either older block aircraft, i.e the F/A-18C and F-16C. Or are straight up aircraft that arent even in service anymore, like the F-14A/B
@@hyperx72 because the "newest" planes cannot be accurately modelled for DCS's realism.... the inner workings of jets like the F-22 are still classified. They also need the licensing brand rights for each plane (their makers are still private corporations afterall).... this is why you can no longer buy Tom Clancy's HAWX, their licencing rights ran out.
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6:07 if you press STG HDG it will aling way mooore faster like i can start up hornet in less than 1,5min
Much appreciated! I've been debating which one to get...I might get both now 😂
There seems to be a trend starting in this comment section... And i'm all for it!
Cool video 😃Audio levels are a bit uneven in some areas though, you'll go from deathly loud in one section to super quiet in the next.
Yeah, it's mostly in the demonstration part. But I do get what you mean, still getting used to it
2:19 is your card ok? Im running almost highest settings with a similar card to an 3060 at about 140 fps in singleplayer
2:40 8m playing 8n a controller and im having so much fun. You dont need a joystick if you want to be good. Im cooking my friend who is on a joystick alnost everytime
My card is fine, they've massively improved performance in vr since I made this video. It's alot better for me now than it was back then, however 140 still seems very good for a 3060 with everything almost maxed out in vr
Respect to you for being able to play on a controller, when my hotas broke I almost couldn't play for a while, the Tomcat was impossible and the other jets were very difficult apart from maybe the Hornet, but hey, that's just me being very bad at controller
So for the bombing example you are showing DCS is very realistic and Vtol is more of a game. I don't play either game, but I plan to. My perspective, after studying on both platforms. DCS is a simulator / Game, and VTOL is a game. In my case, I want the sim part I want to have to work to get good. If I wanted a game only War Thunder would be an option. VTOL and War Thunder is a better comparison IMHO. as they are in the same class.
I wouldn't really say vtol and War Thunder are in the same class as war thunder is a pure game while vtol is more of a simulator light, it's a very good entrance point into the world of simulators if you come from something like war thunder. Sure, it's not as in depth as DCS but still has some of those elements
Dude you wouldn’t even be able to start an aircraft in vtol vr without a tutorial or having played dcs or Microsoft slight sim.
VTOL VR imo is for people who want the feeling of being a fighter pilot without the immense amount of knowledge required to actually fly them. The DLC is also reasonably priced so people don’t need to break the bank for a new plane or helicopter. It’s good for people who want a more casual approach to air combat without it being Ace Combat levels of goofy (no shade to Ace Combat tho). It’s also a good gateway drug into more complex aviation games.
DCS is for people who really like military aviation, and often have setups (and PCs) specifically built for it. It’s built to be as true to life as possible, to where you need to actually put lots of time and effort into learning how to properly fly the aircraft. The fact it is so complex is also why new aircraft modules are upwards of $100 EACH, making them prohibitively expensive for some and primarily aimed at serious aircraft enthusiasts.
That’s the difference in my opinion. VTOL is for new aviation enthusiasts or casual gaming, and DCS is for realism.
100% agree with you, It's nice having a game where you can take your non aviation friends in for some fun time flying while not having them completely clueless about what is happening, while still not being as you said Ace combat or War Thunder
As a 50 year old with decades of experience in the flight sim genre and hundreds of dollars of hotas and flight sim gear, I disagree. VTOL is hands down the better VR experience and in several important way, it’s more realistic and immersive than DCS. The fact that I works immediately with little to no setup and has FULL voice commands for wingmen and ATC right out of the box make it a fantastic overall experience. in DCS world some key thing is always broken and you spend more time setting up and tweaking than you will doing missions. Heaven forbid you try single player only to find the AI is worse than in VTOL.
Except that DCS radars as well as heat signatures are unrealistic, while VTOLs are true to real life.
Pretty much the only way to play a good immersive fighter jet game is spending at least $1K
Unfortunately yes, while you do have to spend some money to enjoy it, 1k is very much an overstatement. For vtol you can get a quest 2 for about 400$, not sure how much the 3 goes for but thats less than half, and for DCS if you're into the realistic planes a 50$ T-flight would do, that's how i started and played my first 600 or so hours on and it was great, I loved it! If you would like to go further with dcs however you could eventually get up to 1k, but this would still take awhile if you don't just go for the best gear straight away.
Great comparison, I settled on Vtol Vr since I'm just a war thunder addict, haha. Earned a sub!
Yeah, I was also a War Thunder addict before DCS and VTOL, great choice though, VTOL was also my first one. And also thank you!
Just the fact that this video is worth making tells you how good VTOL VR is.
This popped up after I started playing VTOLVR a lot recently. I started with DCS awhile back and it's great when you want to get into the weeds and learn all the tiny details about how to use the plane. VTOL is my quick pick up and go. This sim side is great and has been getting better, hell they even simulate radar cross sections better than DCS. It's just so immersive and easy to pick up even if I haven't played in a while.
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I disagree. For me personally, the 300 bucks for my quest 2 would have been absolutely worth it, even if i could only use it for VTOL.
Multiple DLCs, sets of rudder pedals and a 500€ quest 3 later, I still consider it worth it. The community greatly enhances the game with the Multiplayer, custom missions, liveries, mods and sub communities that focus on stuff like pvp, milsim or aerial acrobatics.
I found my people and favorite game of all time in VTOL VR. And I urge you to give it a chance as well, IF you already own a VR headset. I do understand it's a big leap to take.
this is only something with hindsight tho cause many may buy the headset just for vtol and not like it
Vtol VR is the sim I play more. I find it more fun to run the cockpit by using the switches in cockpit in VR. It feels so goddamn real!
DCS looks good but VTOL VR is the flight sim you dreamt of.
I mean, they're good at different things, I like the bigger scope and scale of DCS, and if your dream is to fly one specific aircraft, there is nothing quite like it. That being said, I do love the simplicity of Vtol, it's a game you can invite your non sim buddies to play with. Also the clicky cockpit is a massive bonus. Oooh the clicks...
I dream of flying the real things, so no. Current DCS (in VR) is the one I dreamt of.
i couldnt decide so, just got both
That is very fair, both are amazing
Same
Great video, but you forgot about Combined Arms DLC for DCS World in wich you can drive and shoot ground vehicles.
I'm going to be honest, I completely forgot about that. Thank you for reminding me! Although even if I had thought about it, I don't really want to make claims about how it is because I don't have the dlc. Should probably have mentioned it though..
I didn't think anyone used combined arms tbh. I haven't seen any online servers supporting it
@@ChickentNug I'm not sure if Olympus will make combined arms obsolete.... Olympus being the RTS game mode they're adding where players can control all units like a command and conquer game
Thousand plus hour in vtol I can confidently say it is ok
Can i use HOTAS on VTOL VR or only vr controllers?
Not natively, no. There is a mod for that tho
what would be the point?
@@bluezz5002 prob just the feeling
@@gordonpetter2866 its actually bad to use HOTAS in vtol, you'd need somewhere to put the HOTAS, then anytime you need to flick a switch in the cockpit you have to grab the controllers, interact, then put it down repeat
@@kebabit707 you'll be doing that with the mouse in DCS too anyway chief.... regardless of whether you're using VR or not.
VtolVR is a nice start in flight sims, if you are into those stuff like pushing buttons and complicated systems, DCS is essential for you. If you just like to brrrt groun targets, you can just play war thunder in VR. Also, appreciate your ajs37 viggen shots, viggen is a heartbreaking jet, f/a 18 is a targetbreaking jet
Also you didn’t mention the standalone version allows you to get more performance in vr with open xr
Not that the standalone needed any more benefits over steam... No but for real, i wasn't actually aware of that since i play the steam version, i might just have to give standalone a go
@@Jeppef39 probably late but if it helps you can transfer all your steam licenses over to the stand alone version and vice versa. Might mess up the 50% first purchase discount though so do that first.
@@SA80TAGE Yup, I switched to standalone almost two months ago now, thank you though
DCS is expensive, but it's worth noting that they have very frequent sales, where most modules are 50-30% off.
The main thing with DCS is that it's super CPU limited so having a good CPU matters a good deal more than having a really good graphics card.
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I have to ask, what binds is it to mark a point with ur hmd and transmit it to the hmd that you did here: 6:53
a10 go BBBRBRRRRRRRR
What do you suggest to do in vtol vr if I am alone?
I'd try the campaigns, they were pretty fun. You could also try and join some multiplayer servers, there's usually a few running coop missions which you can join
@@Jeppef39 thanks!
Your narration volume is really quiet
I know, I will try to do better once I get back into it, appreciate the feedback!
And they just released a trainer aircraft you can actually use to train new players.
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Bro, just press STD HDG button lmao
I already own DCS beta and bought FC3, but I just got a headset for Christmas and was thinking about maybe getting VTOL VR as well. This video was actually really helpful and I wish I had saw it before now because I might have put more research into guides and a “training” plan
FC3 aint great for VR, since you can't click the cockpit controls, requires much more control setup since keyboard aint convenient for VR users. I regret getting FC3, was much happier with a full fidelity A-10CII Tank Killer, and was carpet bombing convoys within a week. No training planes needed either, just get the plane/s you actually have passion for. But playing VR it literally has to be full fidelity, for me at least.... don't have enough controls on my HOTAS for FC3 modules.
@@SA80TAGE I figured this out really quick, I had to peek under the headset because I was missing keys, and trying to fly with the vr HOTAS which was not working properly either, but I didn’t have my thrust master stick memorized yet to use it
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Can confirm dcs is not allways fun in vr with a 1080ti, but then you get into a tomcat and it's all good.
But vtol vr is an amazing experience and for playing with my buddies who owns vr headsets but no hotas and aren't plane nerds is priceless, so there's the more entry level aspect of vtol vr that I really like, and also not having to get out my flight stick etc for when ever I wanna fly. I just plop on my vr headset and go..
Both games have it's strengths and weaknesses in my eyes and can't really be compared because of the fact one requires a hotas and one doesn't..
Yeah unfortunately that's what i expected from a 1080.. Really feel like it should be able to run it better, since it's a really good card, actually it's been 7 years since it's release... Damn time flies, anyway yes i could also see how vtol would be really good if you had friends who weren't as interested in planes so you could just jump in and have fun. Unfortunately for me tho, none of my friends have vr. Well that isn't exactly true, but the ones who actually have it are interested in planes and do play dcs instead...
@@Jeppef39 yeah,i think my ancient 4790k isnt helping me much either :D.
BTW Jeppe, DK?... ;D
If you think this is a comparison then stick with vtol or war thunder, you're not ready for dcs lol. What a joke
What ? VTOL VR is totally worth it for just this game alone . Your wrong
thats with a ton of hindsight to most people and entry fee of 330 dollars to play a game they might not lik e can be really unwirth it