Famous Rapper Used my Loop and the Song went Platinum

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  • @JayCactusTV
    @JayCactusTV Місяць тому +5193

    Crazy story! Sounds like OT’s team are good people too 👌

    • @actuallyarman
      @actuallyarman Місяць тому +23

      y'all gotta do a collab or something soon

    • @qbanz00
      @qbanz00 Місяць тому +44

      Yeah , they didn’t wanna get sued ! They better be good people 😂

    • @macteetaks
      @macteetaks Місяць тому +7

      🎉you are a good person too 😊, you changed my whole career

    • @Wopedomer
      @Wopedomer Місяць тому +45

      Bro sold a loop and got mad a loop he didn’t even make went platinum? This is ridiculous

    • @big_hitta4443
      @big_hitta4443 Місяць тому +13

      @@Wopedomer exactly what im sayin bro

  • @silv3r7ongue97
    @silv3r7ongue97 Місяць тому +6043

    That manager was CHILL AF I fw OT nice to see they were quick on that

    • @Kool212
      @Kool212 Місяць тому +121

      It helps when you have a background in the industry. Managers who only have ever managed are the ones to worry about.

    • @dr.richblackman
      @dr.richblackman Місяць тому +3

      That part🏆

    • @NRVE8
      @NRVE8 Місяць тому +29

      Or maybe because Kyle is already so high profile he knows it wouldn’t be a smart move to try and ignore or screw over this person… we’ll never know

    • @skill-fn_360hz
      @skill-fn_360hz Місяць тому +9

      Brandon is the one that’s my blood Uncle which is crazy for this to just pop up 😂

    • @drefrmjet
      @drefrmjet Місяць тому

      @@skill-fn_360hzlol nah yuh ngl that is a crazy coincidence that dats yuh blood uncle lmao 😭😭

  • @Zero-wt7xf
    @Zero-wt7xf Місяць тому +1004

    Long story short, no one stole anything.

    • @PhoneHomex
      @PhoneHomex Місяць тому

      Bro tried paying back his friend with somebullshit not even deserving to call him a friend bro wanted to get his boy paid when ue should of been paying him looks like Kyle went on and got alot of money why his homie broke asf still if you didn't catch that on the video call but you see how shit dont work because in reality i bet your homie would of expected money from you instead of Mexican ot you should of came outta pocket but again you used this video for views and i bet you still didn't even give your homie nun then again you see why it didn't work out son 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽 some people are just disgusting

    • @CSDonohue11
      @CSDonohue11 Місяць тому +14

      Facts

    • @nevercokee
      @nevercokee 29 днів тому +20

      i was so disappointed at the end lol

    • @Immigrantlovesamerica
      @Immigrantlovesamerica 28 днів тому +33

      Yeah, kyle beats is being a POS with this title. The manager was cool as hell about everything.

    • @asstroh
      @asstroh 28 днів тому +4

      Hence the quotations around ‘Stole’

  • @louiealouie
    @louiealouie Місяць тому +338

    “It’s free unless shit pops off. Then you owe us money. Even though it’s my friends.”

    • @ogc-lion8378
      @ogc-lion8378 Місяць тому +14

      Literally though ^

    • @imch099
      @imch099 27 днів тому +12

      free for personal use not for financial purposes

    • @julianhugh1585
      @julianhugh1585 27 днів тому +21

      @@imch099 not what royalty free means

    • @_416_
      @_416_ 27 днів тому

      ​@@imch099Royalty free literally means you can use it without paying lol

    • @turinband
      @turinband 27 днів тому +6

      A decent human being would give credit where it's due, verbally and monetarily. Because they know they wouldn't be where they are without the music behind it.

  • @richardlimp6788
    @richardlimp6788 Місяць тому +5106

    as soon as he said free pack I kinda figured no one was bout to get paid lmaoo

    • @remidibeatz8780
      @remidibeatz8780 Місяць тому +1432

      And they shouldn't. Producers putting packs out for "FREE" but trying to claim money and credit LATER if a producer makes it a dope track and it blows is wack👎🏿. Don't put it out "FREE" period. And I'm a producer and sample maker too

    • @Gride9782781
      @Gride9782781 Місяць тому

      @@remidibeatz8780free packs aren’t ROYALTY free unless specified as so. You still have to credit the person that made the original music, no matter what.

    • @MrMisterJW
      @MrMisterJW Місяць тому +290

      I don't think it was ever about the money, but rather he didn't get any credit. Like, dude can make a lot more money if people know they're getting packs from a certified platinum producer.

    • @richardlimp6788
      @richardlimp6788 Місяць тому +229

      @@MrMisterJW yeah, but the way he stressed the getting paid part makes it seem a little bit about the money lol but yeah credit on a platinum song is a huge door on which opportunity knocks.

    • @MrMisterJW
      @MrMisterJW Місяць тому +48

      @@richardlimp6788 I think that was to add drama to the video.

  • @_justified
    @_justified Місяць тому +7470

    RIP to the thousands of prods that gunna get slapped with copyright for that loop 😂

    • @AlAnsikk
      @AlAnsikk Місяць тому +146

      exactly what i'm thinking

    • @joeproyaknow
      @joeproyaknow Місяць тому +225

      But it's royalty free? Unless you mean copyright strikes within the youtube content ID system if they are monetizing their plays?

    • @JdDobbins97
      @JdDobbins97 Місяць тому

      @@joeproyaknow royalty free means for non commercial use for example SoundCloud sometimes UA-cam Instagram. Commercial is like ads Spotify AppleMusic.

    • @rishibellam738
      @rishibellam738 Місяць тому +152

      wait so it was a free kit but it wasnt royalty free??

    • @ma7sonn
      @ma7sonn Місяць тому

      @@rishibellam738 it was watch the video

  • @mattrewhit
    @mattrewhit Місяць тому +4817

    the fact that the pack was royalty free makes putting “stole” in the video title a click baity move. EDIT: Kyle changed the title - good on him, I respect the decision

    • @christoph1596
      @christoph1596 Місяць тому +3

      You sound dumb dude lol, if someone puts out a free pack, you can’t then take it and say you made it, you still have to credit the person that made the beat

    • @HRBarranger
      @HRBarranger Місяць тому +281

      Not really, he still wasn't given credit, money is a different story.

    • @Shady69420
      @Shady69420 Місяць тому +901

      @@HRBarrangerthats why its “ROYALTY FREE” meaning its free to use without having to pay royalty or worry about copyright

    • @JazzMaster01
      @JazzMaster01 Місяць тому +83

      ​@@Shady69420 I'm pretty sure it was free to use, but not royalty free

    • @HEAVYHEARTSMUSIC
      @HEAVYHEARTSMUSIC Місяць тому +232

      @@Shady69420 royalty free is just exempt from licensing fees/royalties for use, it is still subject to copyright or IP rights

  • @movingsocks579
    @movingsocks579 Місяць тому +380

    Famous rapper uses royalty free pack and gets socially extorted by UA-camr. Unless it was specified royalty free with credit, then this was slimy.

    • @PhoneHomex
      @PhoneHomex Місяць тому

      Bro tried paying back his friend with somebullshit not even deserving to call him a friend bro wanted to get his boy paid when ue should of been paying him looks like Kyle went on and got alot of money why his homie broke asf still if you didn't catch that on the video call but you see how shit dont work because in reality i bet your homie would of expected money from you instead of Mexican ot you should of came outta pocket but again you used this video for views and i bet you still didn't even give your homie nun then again you see why it didn't work out son 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽 some people are just disgusting

    • @Immigrantlovesamerica
      @Immigrantlovesamerica 28 днів тому +25

      He even called the CEO to get money from him. What POS. Royalty free is royalty free.

    • @movingsocks579
      @movingsocks579 27 днів тому +13

      @@Immigrantlovesamerica Unfollowed. Unacceptable behavior unless it was specified royalty free with credit.

    • @devinkane42
      @devinkane42 27 днів тому +12

      It's not extortion in free beat packs after certain amount of views your supposed to pay the producer it's in the description and is also publicly disclosed why do you think the managers were so cool about it

    • @movingsocks579
      @movingsocks579 26 днів тому +15

      @@devinkane42 I work in the music industry. Unless specified *Royalty free with credit or Royalty free up to x amount of spins* than you legally don't have to do anything. The managers were cool, because he's a big youtuber and it's not worth the hassle.

  • @FNNickJamesTV
    @FNNickJamesTV Місяць тому +519

    This is like a commercial for people to never use any sound you put out.

    • @gss6531
      @gss6531 Місяць тому +24

      Yeah pure salt.

    • @501Labsmusic
      @501Labsmusic Місяць тому +27

      Not even his... his FRIENDS'

    • @0madeit311
      @0madeit311 Місяць тому +14

      You got it, sticking with cymatics where they embrace their samples blowing up

    • @ligairi
      @ligairi 29 днів тому +1

      If you're a thief

    • @FNNickJamesTV
      @FNNickJamesTV 29 днів тому +7

      @@ligairi What does "royalty free" mean?

  • @frankhue5296
    @frankhue5296 Місяць тому +1509

    6:20 "that was a free pack i dropped"
    Ok we're done here

    • @theDudewhoKnowsaGuy
      @theDudewhoKnowsaGuy Місяць тому +202

      Hence why there's no payment but credit still goes to the original producer.

    • @zachryansayshello
      @zachryansayshello Місяць тому +169

      So... free packs are for personal use, but if you use another artist's loops to make money, legally they at least deserve credit. And if a substantial amount of money is made, they deserve a cut for providing the original inspiration and tools.

    • @frankhue5296
      @frankhue5296 Місяць тому +21

      @@zachryansayshello yeah i see that but obviousley someone on OT team not man enough for that
      They dont HAVE to though but should he YES

    • @HorrorcoreArtists
      @HorrorcoreArtists Місяць тому +28

      It's not even an original loop. It was super generic.

    • @jay_idfc
      @jay_idfc Місяць тому +52

      nah cuz royalty free and free ain't the same
      so much bs in the comments lmfao

  • @imaxdigital7052
    @imaxdigital7052 Місяць тому +500

    This isn't even clickbait. It's slander.

    • @dabsallday9938
      @dabsallday9938 Місяць тому +28

      Sure is!! You think he’ll get sued for the title of this video?!
      You’d think he’d changed the title but naw, he must like the drama!

    • @xlzerobasslx
      @xlzerobasslx Місяць тому +14

      He's out here trying to be an ambulance chaser - he saw that platinum record and only saw an opportunity for a con.

    • @ezthegod913
      @ezthegod913 Місяць тому +17

      Yeah the title is trash. He didn’t have to take it that far to get clicks.

    • @potato9832
      @potato9832 Місяць тому +3

      He said they were melodies but all I heard were a couple chords. Can't copyright a few chords.

    • @at4sr145
      @at4sr145 Місяць тому +22

      Imagine putting that title after OT’s team and OT himself were chill af about it. Not only that, but dude didn’t even looked into how the pack was released. He should’ve known he released it royalty free. And he kept making it about himself, what a fucking vulture.

  • @KidGlo
    @KidGlo Місяць тому +120

    so not only it was from a royalty free kit, but you didn't even actually make it? LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @ViincenttB
    @ViincenttB Місяць тому +2089

    I guess I'll never use "free" sample kits again

    • @standardahhjkh18
      @standardahhjkh18 Місяць тому +95

      yeah u shouldnt u not a producer 😂 make ur own melodies

    • @randomperson8572
      @randomperson8572 Місяць тому

      just credit them, how stupid are you

    • @jakebarnum3830
      @jakebarnum3830 Місяць тому +279

      Did you even watch the video? They literally didnt get paid because the loop was labeled as royalty free. The main issue was getting credit on the song, which they got

    • @juanr94
      @juanr94 Місяць тому +57

      When loops or beats are free, those are free... but there are not all free to comercialize or distribute, a lot are just for personal use. It can be used as background music to videos or something like that, and you still have to credit the author.

    • @bread-fish
      @bread-fish Місяць тому +20

      @@juanr94 depends, some are also free to commercialize, you gotta check the rights etc attached to them if you use em, and authorial credit also has things attached to it, etc its more complicated than just a couple set ideas.

  • @Mike_Dee_
    @Mike_Dee_ Місяць тому +411

    hmmm, The pack has no licensing information included in it. You really need to include a readme document in the zip file with contact info and licensing terms.

    • @SonOfUnagi
      @SonOfUnagi Місяць тому +30

      Exactly. I always read through them and usually read something like “in the event your usage reaches x amount of streams, we want to renegotiate the royalty free part”

    • @krusher74
      @krusher74 Місяць тому

      music is shit now, people making jigsaw pieces for others to put together. We have about 5 years before its all just AI but the millions and they just keep throwing all the shit at the wall to see what sticks.A race to the bottom.

    • @DwayneRichardson-j1y
      @DwayneRichardson-j1y Місяць тому +21

      Bro it said free that’s false advertisement

    • @xvgwhalevvs.diamonds3281
      @xvgwhalevvs.diamonds3281 Місяць тому +12

      @@SonOfUnagi Royalty free is royalty free, though he could require attribution. If he wants licensing terms, really shouldn't put it out as royalty free, when it comes to copyright and stuff, really can't do fully royalty free(like with whole youtube detection and stuff etc, can't have it be sometimes royalty free to complicated).

    • @W1NT3R_5P1R3
      @W1NT3R_5P1R3 Місяць тому +1

      @@SonOfUnagi Bingo. Always read the licensing and distribution. It's possible that the info is kept on the hosting site itself, it isn't always in the file, and sometimes the pack wasn't put together and distributed by the creator but just some rando who doesn't give a shit about licensing/distribution.

  • @paulsmith1052
    @paulsmith1052 Місяць тому +3028

    Such a great video - Mexican OT team was awesome in handling this - hope there is a collab in the future 🙏

    • @THEMONSTEREXE
      @THEMONSTEREXE Місяць тому +92

      Just another reason I absolutely LOVE Mexican OT. He is such a humble and real guy, he even says it himself during interviews!

    • @imonaroll9502
      @imonaroll9502 Місяць тому +8

      @@THEMONSTEREXEyep it’s more like we gave away a hit 😂.

    • @TATA-lw9yc
      @TATA-lw9yc Місяць тому +7

      How? He never paid the man

    • @SmaccyDGaming
      @SmaccyDGaming Місяць тому +1

      @@TATA-lw9yc 😂😂😂

    • @imonaroll9502
      @imonaroll9502 Місяць тому +27

      @@TATA-lw9yc he shouldn’t put out free stuff if you no want it back.

  • @jreeffam8701
    @jreeffam8701 Місяць тому +30

    Much respect for OT’s manager just being genuine honest and respectful. A real one

  • @ShunzYT
    @ShunzYT Місяць тому +42

    that manager is goated honestly. He handled that so well

  • @Veujin
    @Veujin Місяць тому +1072

    the video should be called "don't use my free sample packs because they are not royalty free"

    • @Lemon_Sage9999
      @Lemon_Sage9999 Місяць тому +169

      You can't sell the loop as your own without paying royalties yea, that's how a free loop pack works. Free USE not free DISTRIBUTION

    • @DuudsCreates
      @DuudsCreates Місяць тому +99

      Bro, I'm not a producer, don't know much about music. But from what I understand it works like this: You don't have to pay an entry fee, but if you do make money from the song, you gotta credit the artist (which should be a given, like c'mon) and also pay him, because he essentially made part of the song. It sounds completely fair and worth it to me, cause if you buy a pack, you not only have to PAY FOR THE PACK, but also pay royalties and give credit. That's what I understood.

    • @theKashConnoisseur
      @theKashConnoisseur Місяць тому +27

      People who are confused by this must think that they own rights to the image when their tattoo artist draws something up for them.

    • @emmanuel.n8458
      @emmanuel.n8458 Місяць тому +12

      ​@@DuudsCreatesthats not free then

    • @Bodoko
      @Bodoko Місяць тому +2

      he didn’t get paid tho

  • @noahcobbs891
    @noahcobbs891 Місяць тому +1115

    It’s free until someone makes money from it lol 😅

    • @BenDover-vp9ik
      @BenDover-vp9ik Місяць тому

      right, kind of an awkward lil game there lol

    • @Wopedomer
      @Wopedomer Місяць тому +151

      Yea this is such a weak take / video they just rollin off OT’s hype

    • @fortieznoshortiez
      @fortieznoshortiez Місяць тому +89

      yall talkin out your ass. this was prolly the most chill reaction someone could have to having their shit get used with 0 credit or mention at all. and it even fostered further relationships for future shit too lol. producers deserve the credits for shit they made. yall both got the weak takes acting like they flipped out on em lmfao.

    • @fortieznoshortiez
      @fortieznoshortiez Місяць тому +17

      @@Wopedomer where u get ur tin foil hats from i need one

    • @CoolPersonThing1
      @CoolPersonThing1 Місяць тому +34

      @@fortieznoshortiez They don't deserve credit when he literally put it out as "royalty free"

  • @AtomicCupid
    @AtomicCupid Місяць тому +85

    imagine complaining when you literally put it up as royalty free big dog. No ones fault but your damn own

  • @seancarruthers8240
    @seancarruthers8240 Місяць тому +190

    That manager was so genuine. I'm happy to see that OT is surrounded by good people. Great video and storytelling!

    • @mattamos304
      @mattamos304 Місяць тому +4

      My thoughts exactly

    • @paperandpavement
      @paperandpavement Місяць тому

      Kyle is a douche

    • @DwayneRichardson-j1y
      @DwayneRichardson-j1y Місяць тому

      Mannn bro the shit was free, all y’all who agree with them is fake free is free

    • @Edgar.55
      @Edgar.55 Місяць тому +1

      Mexican OT seemed pretty chill about it too

    • @at4sr145
      @at4sr145 Місяць тому +2

      And yet this dude titles the video like that. And he put stole “my” beat when it was Darez. If I was Darez I’d stop working with this clown

  • @falsefreedom1713
    @falsefreedom1713 Місяць тому +689

    This video seems much more like an ad for your loop packs than anything else.

    • @Ammut6
      @Ammut6 Місяць тому +58

      Pretty genius actually.

    • @Signal_in_the_noise
      @Signal_in_the_noise Місяць тому +16

      Yah I don’t trust anyone anymore really

    • @randyh7611
      @randyh7611 Місяць тому +9

      And what if it is? It's something to be proud of so he should flaunt it. Ot is cool with it. Let him ride his wave.

    • @Jamarcus__3340
      @Jamarcus__3340 Місяць тому +16

      How is it “free” pack if you’re just gonna turn around and look for money or something at the end.

    • @ts_guero
      @ts_guero Місяць тому +1

      i had a feeling, sadly i already entered and got my hopes up

  • @Mojo702
    @Mojo702 Місяць тому +557

    I found it interesting that you never asked Derez what he wanted.

    • @dracer247365
      @dracer247365 Місяць тому +124

      He got credit for a placement on a platinum record. I don't think you understand how much that alone is worth.

    • @damiendeleon3345
      @damiendeleon3345 Місяць тому +26

      Shady industry. Especially dealing with people w no talent. Lol.

    • @Buccey
      @Buccey Місяць тому +24

      I think getting credit for having a piece of your work in a major song is something you’d want as a producer. You can show that to other people and be like I did this and they can help you in the future

    • @Ddub1083
      @Ddub1083 Місяць тому +8

      yeah... and just snuck in there that he would be credited on the track too... wait why? you just explained that he made it.

    • @m2abuser
      @m2abuser Місяць тому +1

      why would he not want this hello lock in lil bro

  • @staz1699
    @staz1699 Місяць тому +53

    Sooo... in other words, this is just like that Spongebob episode where they steal a balloon on free balloon day? 😂

  • @Karats660
    @Karats660 Місяць тому +722

    if someone told me that i made a beat that is in a platinum record, i would hang up and have a seizure 💀

    • @JuniorOliveira-lp4fo
      @JuniorOliveira-lp4fo Місяць тому +22

      I mean, technically you didn't tho, you made a melody, everyone can do that and post on the internet as royalty free and get placements for big producers. The producer and the rapper are the ones actually transforming your melody into something.

    • @mintybudgie
      @mintybudgie Місяць тому

      i would say "i better be credited or im suing all of y'all"

    • @LowkeyProdFero
      @LowkeyProdFero Місяць тому +6

      @@JuniorOliveira-lp4fo*engineer* and no not everybody can make melodies like that and get a platinum placement. That’s why people use loops instead of making the melody herself and on the other token that’s why the PRODUCER community hates beatmakers who only use loops n don’t credit the co- producer

    • @lom7923
      @lom7923 Місяць тому +6

      ​@@JuniorOliveira-lp4fo while you are right, the song itself LITERALLY doesnt exist without him making that melody. cut and dry simple. he deserves everything he can get

    • @youcantbeatk7006
      @youcantbeatk7006 Місяць тому

      @@lom7923 If you buy sell a car, does the manufacturer deserve a cut since the car wouldn't exist without them?

  • @shinzoux5912
    @shinzoux5912 Місяць тому +447

    "Used my free drum kit" in the vid and "stole" in the title. Jfc.

    • @elissitdesign
      @elissitdesign Місяць тому +11

      No credit or paying is stealing…

    • @shinzoux5912
      @shinzoux5912 Місяць тому +70

      @@elissitdesign Free = no paying. However, are they required to give credit before using the assets?

    • @beastly8056
      @beastly8056 Місяць тому +31

      @@elissitdesignwhy make it free then 😂

    • @Diabooliced
      @Diabooliced Місяць тому

      @@beastly8056 to get credit and get your name out there

    • @Keep_
      @Keep_ Місяць тому +21

      @@shinzoux5912 I was wrong. but free doesn't mean royalty free. Some people have it so that you can use it freely if it's a small song. but when it gets bigger you must credit and and clear the sample. peep any type beat description most of them have this. but in this case they DIDNT steal cause it was a royalty free sample. royalty bomb
      basically its free to mess around with. but not copyright.

  • @beastly8056
    @beastly8056 Місяць тому +135

    This is like me putting something out front with a free sign and then once someone takes it I go and charge them lol

  • @amooddudestunes
    @amooddudestunes Місяць тому +46

    So the morale of the story is don’t buy or use any “royalty free” packs. Heard that.

    • @perrydoig2872
      @perrydoig2872 27 днів тому +2

      When the dust settled nobody got anything other than a plaque that cost them 450 bucks. This doesn’t change shit for royalty-free packs, other than the best producer getting a ton of credits.

    • @idespisegravity
      @idespisegravity 25 днів тому +5

      Just not from these guys.

  • @TheDeathOfPassion
    @TheDeathOfPassion Місяць тому +200

    kind of ironic the title saying he stole your beat but in fact its not yours, its darez

    • @dabsallday9938
      @dabsallday9938 Місяць тому +32

      And it was FREE 😂 but now he wants money?!? GTFOH!

    • @mpq2394
      @mpq2394 Місяць тому +11

      Free for FREE usage, NOT commercial usage

    • @asthecitysleepsofficial
      @asthecitysleepsofficial Місяць тому

      @@mpq2394except it’s free for any usage if it’s royalty free. Thats the whole point of royalties. To get paid for commercial usage.

    • @jgood1824
      @jgood1824 Місяць тому +1

      @@mpq2394people don’t understand how things work man😂😂 the amount of comments I’ve seen saying “it was free”

    • @Burningwoodz
      @Burningwoodz Місяць тому

      @@jgood1824 it was free tho and that is why he did not get paid even tho it was commercial did you not watch the whole video ???

  • @gpromisep
    @gpromisep Місяць тому +674

    I was just getting ready to change hiphop & R&B again with beats then I watched this video to the end & found a challenge

    • @PhoneHomex
      @PhoneHomex Місяць тому

      Bro tried paying back his friend with somebullshit not even deserving to call him a friend bro wanted to get his boy paid when ue should of been paying him looks like Kyle went on and got alot of money why his homie broke asf still if you didn't catch that on the video call but you see how shit dont work because in reality i bet your homie would of expected money from you instead of Mexican ot you should of came outta pocket but again you used this video for views and i bet you still didn't even give your homie nun then again you see why it didn't work out son 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽 some people are just disgusting

  • @demitskill9103
    @demitskill9103 Місяць тому +45

    I can't stand people so obviously lying in their title

  • @steven1479
    @steven1479 23 дні тому +5

    "My team of lawyers" - i sincerely despise these types.

  • @Michael27Romero
    @Michael27Romero Місяць тому +253

    This dude had nothing to do with the actual song other than he put his friends loop in his “pack” 🤣🤣🤣

    • @choppchopp9975
      @choppchopp9975 Місяць тому +13

      yeah and that's exactly what music producing is...

    • @Michael27Romero
      @Michael27Romero Місяць тому +13

      @@choppchopp9975 no that’s not lmaooo. Learn an actual instrument u computer clicking beat maker

    • @choppchopp9975
      @choppchopp9975 Місяць тому +18

      @@Michael27Romero 90% of the songs you hear were made on computers bro.

    • @Michael27Romero
      @Michael27Romero Місяць тому +13

      @@choppchopp9975 ur not telling me nothing idk lmaoo. My point still stands he had nothing to do with the song other then steal his friends loop for his “pack”.

    • @Michael27Romero
      @Michael27Romero Місяць тому +3

      @@choppchopp9975 he didn’t press one note or one drum on that song let smoke come up with the melody 👌🏼 👍🏻

  • @MoneylessMods
    @MoneylessMods Місяць тому +236

    Only The Mexican OT would be this wholesome about this

    • @joeprince728
      @joeprince728 Місяць тому +1

      173 Likes and no replies? Let me change that :)

  • @JAY1point0
    @JAY1point0 Місяць тому +556

    “stole” but the drumkit is free

    • @bartsimpson274
      @bartsimpson274 Місяць тому +87

      If u download a movie for free and it’s marketed as free, it doesn’t mean u have the rights to use it. The terms and conditions to the loop say if it has over 5mil streams then it’s not royalty free anymore. That’s fair because it means u don’t pay until u make a bunch of money l.

    • @Kanyewestbiggestfan123
      @Kanyewestbiggestfan123 Місяць тому +11

      That’s why it’s in quotes

    • @fmafieldmediaascension9220
      @fmafieldmediaascension9220 Місяць тому +12

      That was just the attention grabber in the title. Both sides handled things righteously.

    • @jqreqrqeg7551
      @jqreqrqeg7551 Місяць тому +28

      ​@@bartsimpson274 A movie is the final product. Its more like giving away a free camera then charging the studio for fliming the movie with it.

    • @randomperson8572
      @randomperson8572 Місяць тому +1

      ah yes saying something out of context to get hatred towards Kyle and getting attention at the same time, funny how life works innit

  • @strstrstrr
    @strstrstrr 17 днів тому +2

    Decent producers always have a descriptions with “tag me in the credits if you used this” or “royalty free unless smth, smth, smth…” if u got none oh that shi then don’t cry

  • @DrumNbassSets
    @DrumNbassSets Місяць тому +224

    What a cool video and how cool everyone was about it, can't wait for the future hits

    • @j00bs
      @j00bs Місяць тому +5

      only happened because Kyles got almost 1M subs

    • @sigmaGameSense
      @sigmaGameSense Місяць тому

      @@j00bs true

  • @wrong_reginald
    @wrong_reginald Місяць тому +112

    Put it out for free? They don't owe shit. Period.

    • @mikeystapleton
      @mikeystapleton Місяць тому +2

      did you watch the video?

    • @j.r31
      @j.r31 Місяць тому +5

      Yea but he keeps asking for payment 😂😂😂

    • @JJontiming
      @JJontiming 29 днів тому

      @@j.r31you guys are clueless holy hell

  • @taylobeats6745
    @taylobeats6745 Місяць тому +572

    It went from get the homie paid to I need my cut as well off royalty free loops

    • @double0double0
      @double0double0 Місяць тому +153

      Lmfso fr this mf finessed himself in there too 💀

    • @QuinnGIn1080p
      @QuinnGIn1080p Місяць тому +67

      The kit is free as in it's offered at no cost, that doesn't mean it's royalty free whatsoever. Also, any time a kit is free it specifies it's not for commercial use unless you get permission from the producer. You are also required to credit the producer which they didn't do, little buddy.
      It's funny that OT does three things wrong, yet you're calling out the dude who's in the right.

    • @iamhereblossom1588
      @iamhereblossom1588 Місяць тому +69

      @@QuinnGIn1080pAt the end he says the loop was actually royalty free so yes it was royalty free.

    • @ManWhoLostTheWar
      @ManWhoLostTheWar Місяць тому +10

      @@QuinnGIn1080p dont piss yourself, "little buddy"
      all the dude did was make a joke about how he snuck himself in there (rightfully so or not), not that deep LOL

    • @QuinnGIn1080p
      @QuinnGIn1080p Місяць тому

      @@iamhereblossom1588 Looks like it's working

  • @thizlam4810
    @thizlam4810 18 днів тому +3

    Him: “Here’s some free beats for you guys to use!”
    Also him: “yooo wtf I need to contact my lawyer!”

  • @Dacoljr
    @Dacoljr Місяць тому +301

    Guys just because it’s a free loop doesn’t mean that the original producer shouldn’t get credit

    • @nxorz3627
      @nxorz3627 Місяць тому +57

      no one is saying he shouldn’t get credit. it’s just the fact that he was trying to get paid of a beat he published to be free.

    • @Dacoljr
      @Dacoljr Місяць тому

      @@nxorz3627 I understand that but that’s not how the system works

    • @darrenMckinnney
      @darrenMckinnney Місяць тому +2

      ​@@nxorz3627it doesn't matter he need to get paid its his beat with he needs his credit don't use someone beat and go platinum with it and not give a shout-out I would honestly

    • @user-cy5ol3xl5y
      @user-cy5ol3xl5y Місяць тому +8

      So desperate for money

    • @RightThereDBOY
      @RightThereDBOY Місяць тому +3

      Facts, i credit folks everytime i steal they loop 😂😂😂😂

  • @Embrox
    @Embrox Місяць тому +678

    I knew i heard this melody before 💀

    • @Wopedomer
      @Wopedomer Місяць тому +47

      Bro put out a free melody pack that was a loop not even made by him and now wants a check 😂😂😂
      Bros such a scam

    • @johnshedIetsky
      @johnshedIetsky Місяць тому +3

      @@Wopedomerexactly

    • @reapingshadow6977
      @reapingshadow6977 Місяць тому +19

      @@Wopedomer He didn't want a check? He literally made the whole thing about getting Darez his plaque and MAYBE paid... If you wouldn't put in a word for your friend who you know is "going through waves" (verbatim) to possibly get royalties on a platinum song you are a terrible friend.

    • @lepanituifagalele
      @lepanituifagalele Місяць тому +3

      @@Wopedomerso you didn’t watch the video or what?

    • @Wopedomer
      @Wopedomer Місяць тому +2

      @@lepanituifagalele he talks about trying to get his boy some money thru the first like half of the video

  • @gramdmastadolla
    @gramdmastadolla Місяць тому +148

    Platinum and gold status is based of units sold or equivalent. So it’s 1,000,000 copies sold or the streaming equivalent, not sales in dollar amount. Hope that helps

    • @user-tl8hp4kt3z
      @user-tl8hp4kt3z Місяць тому +9

      Yeah idk where he got that from cause he prolly will make a couple million off this song shows , tour etc

    • @Austin-vo2gh
      @Austin-vo2gh Місяць тому

      @@user-tl8hp4kt3z that’s unrelated

    • @Cocinaughty
      @Cocinaughty Місяць тому +2

      The streaming equivalent meaning that the amount of streams would have to garner 1 million dollars

    • @gramdmastadolla
      @gramdmastadolla Місяць тому +3

      @@Cocinaughty that’s not accurate. When I said “or the equivalent” I mean in terms of streaming to sales. Roughly (edited) 150 streams is equivalent to 1 unit sold. Platinum is 1 million units sold. Each platform pays out a percentage of a penny sometimes 2 Pennies per stream. The number made from a platinum record today is not 1:1 as it used to be. The amount of money the song makes doesn’t matter in regards to the platinum or gold status. Soundscan tracks sale numbers/units and not the quantitative amount (because singles can be purchased at different rates whether it streamed or bought for .99/1.29) the song made monetarily. If the song goes platinum, that means it has amassed an equivalent of 1 million units, not 1 million dollars.

    • @Austin-vo2gh
      @Austin-vo2gh Місяць тому +1

      @@gramdmastadolla the 1500 actually applies to albums. For singles it’s 150

  • @KorinJStanley
    @KorinJStanley Місяць тому +8

    Shout out to Mexican OT and his team for being completely understanding and acknowledging you and derez’s work

  • @Barney-ii1no
    @Barney-ii1no Місяць тому +537

    the pitfalls of doing royalty free samples

    • @Wopedomer
      @Wopedomer Місяць тому +1

      Yea what does bro have to bitch about? This is such a weak take 😂😂😂😂
      Man spent 100k advertising his “royalty free” samples and tryin to act like their beat got stole lmao

    • @jasonmusic9938
      @jasonmusic9938 Місяць тому +9

      hopefully word gets around, and ppl start paying him to collab or make some beats for them, producer credits etc

    • @Prod_Kole
      @Prod_Kole Місяць тому

      @@jasonmusic9938 nah it was a free drumkit, FREE. you cant come back once the artist pops off and ask for a check if its free

    • @2MuchBTP
      @2MuchBTP Місяць тому +4

      Big facts 💯💯🎯

    • @slgaming6644
      @slgaming6644 Місяць тому +71

      you dont get payed for "royalty free" samples which is why this video is confusing tf out of me, how can you drop a free "royalty free" pack & expect to get paid thats sum cheeky a** stuff, getting credited is one thing but "royalty free" is royalty free

  • @josephsco
    @josephsco Місяць тому +119

    HELP US OUT HERE.. BECAUSE WHAT IM HEARING IS NEVER USE THESE PACKS..

    • @brbsnortingcatnip
      @brbsnortingcatnip Місяць тому +35

      What you're hearing is just credit the producer that made the beat. That's it.

    • @PenguinjitsuX
      @PenguinjitsuX Місяць тому +3

      Yeah as the comment above mentioned, you just need to give credit. The pack was released as royalty free so they didn't need to lose any money on it anyways. Depending on the license, even credit may not be required, but that's just human decency to credit the right people. What happened in the video was understandable since the person who made the full beat probably didn't disclose that it wasn't his own sample, and they ended up clearing the misunderstanding anyways. This video itself is misleading though, they should have started the video saying that the music was royalty free. Way too much drama for nothing.

    • @PinkTubeSox
      @PinkTubeSox Місяць тому

      Nah use packs just credit the people. What it sounded like is that the producer for Johnny Dang didn't let the label know he used a loop pack

    • @ThomS8
      @ThomS8 Місяць тому +4

      @@brbsnortingcatnip he didn't, he made a sample, distributed it royalty free and cried afterwards when someone made money out of it!

    • @ShotByKINGISAIAS
      @ShotByKINGISAIAS Місяць тому

      @@brbsnortingcatniplmao he didn’t produce the full song sucks to be him.

  • @YoshidaSPECL
    @YoshidaSPECL Місяць тому +404

    Bro, this whole video is like if i give my homie a peso and he uses it to buy a scratcher and wins, and my boss wants a cut cause he payed me with his money

    • @GamerReacts92
      @GamerReacts92 Місяць тому

      Yeah this gringo is a waste of space hungry for fame can’t stand people like this

    • @LeKNG
      @LeKNG Місяць тому +19

      All it is that the producer didn't credit the og. A sample pack being free is not equivalent to royalty free/free for profit. It just means you can use it for free and make non profit content with it. Which I guess was the original intention of the song, but the producer who put the drums didn't pay or credit the sample makers

    • @RodneyDevoss
      @RodneyDevoss Місяць тому +7

      No it’s like giving your homie a peso and saying you free to spend it on anything, but if you’re monetizing it I want a cut. Free beats and copyright isn’t free no strings attached, and that’s stated. This beat happened to be free no strings attached as it was royalty free, but they usually aren’t.

    • @weasley888
      @weasley888 Місяць тому +3

      @@LeKNG the pack literally said royalty free on it

    • @999waves
      @999waves Місяць тому

      No it’s not stop making up random shit lmao weirdo

  • @SakaBeat777
    @SakaBeat777 23 дні тому +5

    Bro talkin' bout Lawyers for Free Loops.... Bruv.... Never usin' free loops now...🤣🤣

  • @alvinjun5669
    @alvinjun5669 Місяць тому +68

    Stole? but is free to begin with? bro ur delusional

    • @z3ro7o
      @z3ro7o Місяць тому

      You dumb? Its free for personal use

    • @mattk8810
      @mattk8810 Місяць тому +6

      Exactly

    • @yuppebuddy444
      @yuppebuddy444 Місяць тому

      Nothing at all

  • @Dillygotitbumpin
    @Dillygotitbumpin Місяць тому +860

    Storytelling has leveled up, fire video!

    • @RoryBland
      @RoryBland Місяць тому

      Bro fr! It’s been months since I seen a KB vid and that was my exact thoughts

    • @deepnineforty5646
      @deepnineforty5646 Місяць тому +9

      Leveled up? LOL This was click bait foooo

    • @FoolisH409
      @FoolisH409 Місяць тому +2

      This video was wack what are you talking about

  • @real2kb
    @real2kb Місяць тому +212

    moral lesson : as a producer don't use(*third party*) sample packs / loops even if they are labelled free /royalty free ,,, even if you bought the loop kits ,,, in the end it will haunt you

    • @user-jm4cd5sd1x
      @user-jm4cd5sd1x Місяць тому +7

      nah

    • @Primordial_one
      @Primordial_one Місяць тому +11

      Not if you do things right and credit them

    • @yskyskyskyskysk
      @yskyskyskyskysk Місяць тому +12

      fact, I'll never understand producer that uses 3rd party loops, it's only problems + you won't take the whole money you should get for a placement, you'd have to split it

    • @BrigadeSavage
      @BrigadeSavage Місяць тому +1

      What should they do?

    • @JayfkProductions876
      @JayfkProductions876 Місяць тому +3

      Moral of the story don't get em from someone who gon scam u..

  • @SideFlame
    @SideFlame 25 днів тому +19

    Dw bro we wont use your sample packs now. Thanks for the heads up

    • @Bonzi_Buddy
      @Bonzi_Buddy 21 день тому +1

      You shouldn't or you should obtain prior permissions. Music artists have legal teams for a reason.

    • @ckwnce8282
      @ckwnce8282 7 днів тому

      Dw bro Darez and Kyle clearly weren't going to get paid for you using their samples anyway lmao

  • @MrBrezzie20
    @MrBrezzie20 Місяць тому +808

    This is something I fear of from using Loops!! Or making them!! I want credit for all my work!!

    • @mroctober3583
      @mroctober3583 Місяць тому +73

      Exactly why I NEVER use loops, even if it's a banger I feel like I cheated

    • @MrGetWrecked916
      @MrGetWrecked916 Місяць тому +24

      This why I hated using loops lol 😭

    • @plaqueshine
      @plaqueshine Місяць тому +10

      i want to make them and sell them, but fear someone will use it without my consent

    • @azeglio863
      @azeglio863 Місяць тому +36

      just don't drop them in a free pack

    • @ProLevelAVG
      @ProLevelAVG Місяць тому +41

      royalty-free means royalty-free. you may get credit but not necessarily paid. words have meaning. not being facetious at all. I've worked decades in the music industry and also in the legal field. One single word can change the meaning of a sentence or paragraph. always know your rights or defer to an expert that can help protect you and your art

  • @DJXcalibur
    @DJXcalibur Місяць тому +33

    If it’s a free sample kit, you already got paid. That’s the way the law perceives this situation. You placed that loop in a kit that was labeled as free. Meaning royalty free. It was also on a website designed to provide free sounds/kits for production. Meaning he does not have to pay you for that beat. I would have told you to take me to court so legally you could be told the same. You had no expectation of payment upon placing that kit on a site as a free kit! You can’t expect one now when there was no paperwork stating that deal. This works the same as if there was a contract. If you accept 5K upfront and 3-5 points on the backend, that’s what you get! Only way to alter said deal is contract renegotiation. The only difference in the two processes is you can’t renegotiate what was already given out as free! Free means free! No matter what!

  • @siniister710
    @siniister710 Місяць тому +157

    ngl I'm an even bigger fan of OT now lol dude was mad chill about it

    • @Wopedomer
      @Wopedomer Місяць тому

      Yea plus these bitch asses wanna claim they “made this beat” that was a free loop?? 😂
      Bro click baiting

  • @TrapMotorsports214
    @TrapMotorsports214 Місяць тому +24

    "Free Pack" "want to get my friend paid because it's his pack" "I want my name on the credits too and we need to be paid"..... smh

    • @mattk8810
      @mattk8810 29 днів тому

      There are rules to royalty free music.

    • @34geminimusic76
      @34geminimusic76 4 дні тому

      ​@@mattk8810 there literally aren't. No one gets credited on a sample pack and royalty free means "we can't request any money from you".

  • @betIwrekk
    @betIwrekk Місяць тому +325

    New business model: Make a ton of random loops, give them all out for free, wait for someone to do all the work and make it a hit… Get paid!

    • @InsiteVFX
      @InsiteVFX Місяць тому +40

      Their producer slowed the sample down and threw sum drums on it and called it a day tf are u talkn about ? 😭

    • @reallyeffingcooltechnodude
      @reallyeffingcooltechnodude Місяць тому +26

      Did you watch the video? They didn't get paid.
      Better business model: enjoy the process of creating music, get good at creating music, be a cool person, make connections to other cool, music creating people, create music. There's a one in a millions chance someone picks up your music and you'll make some real money from it.

    • @betIwrekk
      @betIwrekk Місяць тому +5

      @@reallyeffingcooltechnodudeOf course I watched the whole video. In the end, he’ll get a Plaque to recognize his contribution to the song. I took more offense to the title “stole”. OT didn’t steal anything. Another producer used it form a “FREE” pack and OT got it from him. If OT never picked it up, never would’ve seen the light of day. As Nas would say, they made it a hot loop, OT made it a damn hit! Not to discredit the creator but this likely took him less than an hour to make. It takes hours to lay down the verses, structure the beat around the lyrics and many more hours to mix and master the song. Now you make the video and promote the song. It was a hit with or without that beat. OT and Paul Wall have turned many instrumentals into HITS. To the credit of this channel and the producer of the track, they, as you mentioned, created a lifetime connection. Networking is key in this industry. OT made his track a hit and now he’ll get the recognition he deserves and hopefully will now have a way to support his family in a career I imagine he loves.

    • @InsiteVFX
      @InsiteVFX Місяць тому +8

      @@betIwrekk Stole is just there to sensationalize the title and get u to click it lol
      Shittin on them is weird idc what angle u comin from bro.

    • @betIwrekk
      @betIwrekk Місяць тому +3

      So lie about and tarnish the reputation of the artist to get people to watch you? That’s what the law will call libel. I know why he did it. I guess just from a generation that believes in standing on your own merit. Not riding on the backs of others. Anyway, good conversation. I wish you and this channel nothing but success. God Bless!

  • @JazzCabbageJosh
    @JazzCabbageJosh Місяць тому +58

    Finding it a lil funny that you emphasize maintaining a solid relationship with OT and his crew, yet use his name in the thumbnail and claim he 'stole' the beat. I have no issue with you wanting Darez to get credited and even paid - but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth the way you handled the title and thumbnail even though you put quotes around the word "stole".
    You're essentially libeling OT to garner attention for you and your boy.
    Also, you took the time to drop a link for the 2 week challenge in your description AND pinned comment but fail to link any of Darez's socials 💀
    Again, I completely agree with wanting appropriate credit and compensation and I can appreciate you being a homie to your boy. But despite everything, you end up coming across as more of an opportunist instead of someone actually trying to do something genuine. Just my 2 cents. Overall though I'm happy you and Darez got the credit y'all deserved. Keep it up dawg 🔥

    • @DonnaInMalibu
      @DonnaInMalibu Місяць тому +9

      He doesn't even deserve any credit, just Darez.

    • @JazzCabbageJosh
      @JazzCabbageJosh Місяць тому +7

      @@DonnaInMalibu honestly, I'm inclined to agree. The part where Kyle is talking to his lawyer and the lawyer says "let's back up" 3x seems sus to me, especially since the clip cuts right afterwards. I wouldn't be surprised if the lawyer was about to tell Kyle that he's not entitled to any compensation due to the sample being part of a free pack. This is just speculation of course, but I also feel it isn't a huge stretch.

    • @dumbbuckets2668
      @dumbbuckets2668 Місяць тому +4

      Yeah. "Proper credit" would be literally nothing because that's what dude did.

  • @D.Walt3000
    @D.Walt3000 Місяць тому +100

    That was so refreshing to see how you, Mexican OT, and everyone involved handled this with class. In the end this is going to profit everyone!

    • @Wopedomer
      @Wopedomer Місяць тому +8

      Cuz it was all filmed. Bro really had the weakest take of all time w this vid. Ain’t this the dude who used to spam UA-cam with ads about his “free packs”
      Now he wants royalties on that? Fym

  • @Marito96
    @Marito96 Місяць тому +11

    Costco About To Start Giving Out Free Samples & Charging You When You’re About to Walk Out, after watching this 🤣

  • @lTsComplicated
    @lTsComplicated Місяць тому +63

    Creates a FREE PACK, doesn't ask the one who made it what he wants to do. Tries to hit them up looking for money... lol

    • @the_bryson_Wayne
      @the_bryson_Wayne Місяць тому

      Fr

    • @aydencoulter1353
      @aydencoulter1353 Місяць тому +6

      most free packs / beats have clear terms saying you cannot profit and claim the work as your own. they're labeled as free for non-profit

    • @okrambo1
      @okrambo1 Місяць тому

      @@aydencoulter1353 Nahhhhhhhhhhh

    • @SnazzyBoxx
      @SnazzyBoxx 27 днів тому

      @@aydencoulter1353it was royalty free aswell. Big difference

  • @purpl3ra1n
    @purpl3ra1n Місяць тому +39

    You legitimately said free. Video is pointless once you said free

    • @Deowfive
      @Deowfive Місяць тому

      You need to understand music sir

    • @RonaldoSwizzbeats
      @RonaldoSwizzbeats Місяць тому +2

      @purpl3ra1n You’re absolutely right. You can’t ask for a royalty free sample to be cleared. That’s ridiculous business practices.

  • @losobeat403
    @losobeat403 Місяць тому +116

    This is a perfect example why you shouldn’t use loops even if it says royalty free

    • @666Roadhouse
      @666Roadhouse Місяць тому +20

      facts why is bro mad that he mad he made a free pack and somebody used it

    • @Sandyyrn
      @Sandyyrn Місяць тому +5

      But he didn’t have to pay him cause it said “Royalty free”, so u can use them

    • @losobeat403
      @losobeat403 Місяць тому

      @@Sandyyrn he did ask to have the other prod to get paid

    • @gss6531
      @gss6531 Місяць тому +1

      If you're good enough you just make your own. These loop makers aren't anything special in the music world.

    • @Aaronius_Maximus
      @Aaronius_Maximus Місяць тому +1

      What are you talking about? The Johnny Dang track was just a fluke, could have just easily happened on a non-royalty free loop but it didn't. Producers have to put free shit out there sometimes. It's necessary promotion for their brand, and enables up and coming producers to experiment with pre-existing samples or loops. Nothing at all wrong with manipulating some MIDI notes to build your own song. The guy who created them didn't even notice it was his music!! Maybe that's because these guys create thousands of different sounds. They don't always know how "good" something is that they're making, so it's completely their responsibility to copyright certain things or choose to give them away.

  • @MichaelOMalley617
    @MichaelOMalley617 Місяць тому +4

    If I made a hit off a free track I am ABSOLUTELY breaking the producer off. That’s insane regardless of the situation .

  • @chiccngeorge3058
    @chiccngeorge3058 Місяць тому +196

    Wait wait wait. It’s a free drum kit so what’s the big deal? I think “stole” is a strong word. Def would be cool to get some credit though!

    • @-sparks
      @-sparks Місяць тому +11

      There's always a Ts and Cs txt file included either in the pack or in the website 🤣

    • @talkstran6352
      @talkstran6352 Місяць тому +63

      Bro free loops are free as long as you don't make profit. To use the beat for commercial use you have to buy or lease the beat that way the producer gets hits cut

    • @ShortSubmission
      @ShortSubmission Місяць тому +5

      Not really the wrong word, it is stolen as the free drum kit is only for non commercial use

    • @Illanesmusiccl
      @Illanesmusiccl Місяць тому +6

      it’s all about principle, paid for or free. you are still not the original creator of the piece, you are not the owner. the goal is to be transparent and give everyone credit and respect they deserve for their work on the record. it’s complex it’s not simple

    • @RandomRobots2
      @RandomRobots2 Місяць тому +1

      Does no one know about how free for personal use is different from business use? Like if you use windows 11 for a pc at home it’s one thing, but if you take the same copy of windows 11 and install it on a shitload of office computers it’s illegal? Plus it seems more like he just wants there to be credit for his friend.

  • @LXNDRU
    @LXNDRU Місяць тому +39

    They had to be cool in the conversations because Kyle is always filming everything😂.

    • @Wopedomer
      @Wopedomer Місяць тому +11

      Yea this is such a weak take lmao
      Kyle trying to get OT caught up and OT is like bruh it was a free loop

  • @TheTruth23rd
    @TheTruth23rd Місяць тому +29

    Once he said “free” he loss everything. Done deal.

    • @elissitdesign
      @elissitdesign Місяць тому

      Free to use. Not for resale!

    • @TheTruth23rd
      @TheTruth23rd Місяць тому +1

      @@elissitdesign can’t resale something that is free.

  • @sirfam601kc2
    @sirfam601kc2 Місяць тому +38

    Circling back to 5 years ago wit da quote "trust da process"...GOLD...Nah. PLATINUM💯

  • @BeforeThisNovember
    @BeforeThisNovember Місяць тому +116

    Verdict: you now charge for a pack you used to give for free.
    You didn’t get paid because you gave the pack away royalty free.
    Damn, awkward.

    • @OvoJustice
      @OvoJustice Місяць тому +10

      Money hungry, tbh I'd try to get my bag aswell

    • @CrymsonNite
      @CrymsonNite Місяць тому +5

      It's in his Terms of service, imagine if you were defending Jay Z from using some little guys free loop.

    • @joesmoe3096
      @joesmoe3096 Місяць тому

      just because you're ignorant and not the brightest, doesnt mean you should brag about it

    • @CHEESEDADDY
      @CHEESEDADDY Місяць тому

      it wasnt royalty free

    • @BeforeThisNovember
      @BeforeThisNovember Місяць тому +1

      @@CHEESEDADDY didn’t you watch the video?

  • @shotslikeHARDAWAYY
    @shotslikeHARDAWAYY Місяць тому +376

    so you released a FREE DRUM KIT and someone used it and it blew up & so now... "ITS STOLEN!". crazy despicable work

    • @imonaroll9502
      @imonaroll9502 Місяць тому +87

      Yeah. It’s pretty slimy when he said, let me call my “lawyers”.

    • @serialistic4321
      @serialistic4321 Місяць тому +57

      @@imonaroll9502 Just shows how much you don't know about law, let alone music industry.

    • @PickDeath
      @PickDeath Місяць тому +95

      free kits are not for commercial use you agree to it when you download it

    • @nerdstreet3
      @nerdstreet3 Місяць тому +78

      Free for non commercial use. That's very standard for anything loops or beats. For example if you search type bests, they are all advertised as free without commercial use, so if you used that beat and it blew up and made money, it would no longer qualify for free usage and you'd have to pay up. Same way if you use that beat in a UA-cam video and that blew up, you'd owe money even though it's labeled as "free". Every producer, artist, etc knows this.

    • @ckwnce8282
      @ckwnce8282 Місяць тому +4

      @@serialistic4321 wrong bro; i'm sure he's a student specializing in intellectual property law at Yale

  • @kestee3240
    @kestee3240 Місяць тому +2

    so genuine. the producer seems so genuine. he deserves his pay.

  • @hylertull
    @hylertull Місяць тому +110

    Imagine having to credit the creator of a LOOP you used from a free pack lmao. Kyle didn’t even have a hand in the finished beat. Transformative use of a loop. This is clickbait

    • @CE-ex2wg
      @CE-ex2wg Місяць тому +3

      imagine not even chopping or processing your own drums and callng yourself an artist and going on tour with it, shame

    • @hylertull
      @hylertull Місяць тому +4

      Imagine a world where beatmakers had to give credit for each aspect of a beat lol. “Beat prod me. Kick by Cookin Soul. Hi hat by Sonny Digital. Synth by…”

    • @allencarabajal8989
      @allencarabajal8989 Місяць тому

      @@CE-ex2wgno rappers making their own beats.. none of em artists?

  • @thatkidfromthatshow
    @thatkidfromthatshow Місяць тому +42

    Lmfao no way you don't reveal the loop was royalty free till the end, painted the producers in a bad light the whole video

  • @clipsfdrive
    @clipsfdrive Місяць тому +168

    That "Boss man" got me feeling like this was staged.

    • @randomperson8572
      @randomperson8572 Місяць тому +47

      yeah why did the manager and the derez also said " hey boss man " in the same tone ☠

    • @MonsterMendez
      @MonsterMendez Місяць тому +15

      Tbh I’m tired of liars on the internet 😂‼️ it’s ridiculous

    • @tristc6909
      @tristc6909 Місяць тому +12

      Boss man is highly used by a lot of people

    • @randomperson8572
      @randomperson8572 Місяць тому +9

      @@tristc6909 i hear a lot of “ Boss “ living here in the UK, in the US its more like “ Fam , dude , boss , man “ but never “ Boss man “
      let alone 2 random person who have nothing connected to say it back 2 back

    • @temp6156
      @temp6156 Місяць тому +4

      @@randomperson8572 maybe it’s more common in my area, but I say “boss man” like every single day. Especially with like cashiers or something. Like when you get your bags at the store and you say “appreciate it boss man”

  • @JayAveYT
    @JayAveYT 24 дні тому +11

    So he stole it even tho it's "free" ?😂 I'm at 0:46 and I'm stopping the video. This is some corny ass shit 💀

  • @DocFear
    @DocFear Місяць тому +11

    Brandon OT really impressed me from the get-go. Very professional and very good attitude. Thanks for putting out this video, definitely helps give us more insight into how to approach such issues. Thanks Kyle

  • @seanaldrich5024
    @seanaldrich5024 Місяць тому +690

    If it's a free loop why can't it be used in any song? I legit don't know the legality behind I so I'm genuinely wanting to know lmao

    • @k2uno
      @k2uno Місяць тому +295

      Think u have to give credit even if it's free

    • @nathanielperryii296
      @nathanielperryii296 Місяць тому +239

      It can be used, but the producer of the beat needs to be credited.

    • @anthonymontoya8039
      @anthonymontoya8039 Місяць тому +119

      The producer and the beat need accredited, no matter free or not. It can be used in anything, but if it isn't credited properly, then the other "producer" could say it's his own original beat even tho it wasn't. It's just not right.

    • @anthonymontoya8039
      @anthonymontoya8039 Місяць тому +27

      There doesn't necessarily need to be a payment made either, but most labels in good faith will give the original "producer" a decent cut as well as their name on the track.

    • @Mabbs2.0
      @Mabbs2.0 Місяць тому +74

      There’s a different between free and royalty free

  • @Selfpowered
    @Selfpowered Місяць тому +186

    Releasing the sample as royalty free, then trying to hit them up for money and implying that they did something wrong is pretty scummy.

    • @walkoff2117
      @walkoff2117 Місяць тому +28

      It is kinda scummy to take someone’s work and not even credit them

    • @EEe-lg3tp
      @EEe-lg3tp Місяць тому +11

      Not when no one was credited and the requirements to use the loop are not being followed

    • @YoungNosaTv504
      @YoungNosaTv504 Місяць тому +11

      you need to read the fine print in the tos on the site (section 5 to be specific).It's royalty free until you hit a certain amount of streams or purchases (of course you would never know if you meet that criteria until it happens so ig if you wanna save legwork and avoid being accused of stealing after the fact assume this guys loops are not royalty free. Would be nice if they bothered to include tos within the pack or be more transparent about these predatory business decisions but alas.

    • @lucasbrennan1967
      @lucasbrennan1967 Місяць тому +4

      i agree, i really dont see the issue here for real. like putting out free sample packs, and then you want credit as a producer?

    • @999waves
      @999waves Місяць тому +1

      Facts

  • @PhoneHomex
    @PhoneHomex Місяць тому +24

    Bro got a million views and still didnt give his homie shit but a picture frame with Aladdin on it 💀💀💀💀FAKEEE

    • @moonordament
      @moonordament Місяць тому +2

      Bro hating 😂😭get a life go touch grass.

    • @ThatDudeDeven
      @ThatDudeDeven 23 дні тому

      Hey dummy, he said the plaque was in the process of being made and it "takes some time" 🤪🤣 Maybe if the bottom screen had Temple Run going, you'd have been able to pay attention.

  • @InputBen
    @InputBen Місяць тому +178

    So a royalty free sample… that a producer used as intended. How is that anyone’s fault🤣

    • @mveepb
      @mveepb Місяць тому +34

      u still need to credit the og producer

    • @SAwesome2
      @SAwesome2 Місяць тому +81

      @@mveepb You don't. He released the product for public use. There is no chance at a copyright claim. He'd lose the legal battle.

    • @OliveVeyah
      @OliveVeyah Місяць тому +2

      @@SAwesome2 you do :3

    • @beatsbydoubledart
      @beatsbydoubledart Місяць тому +8

      ​@@OliveVeyahwas that what it said in the terms for use, if it wasnt then yh he doesnt actually have to credit

    • @SAwesome2
      @SAwesome2 Місяць тому +16

      @@OliveVeyah If your "works" is sampled, you do. His producer pack, which was full of loops/samples for others TO USE, is not covered by the copyright. For example, for every song (they often use hundreds of samples to make a single song), you'd have to list the entire creative team for each sample as "writers" or "producers", and they'd all get compensation. "Samples" aren't just loops sampled from songs, every audio clip is a sample, and most of them aren't recorded by the producers - they are bought/downloaded for free. He released that pack for free, for use. He has no claim to it, the same way he doesn't cite every sample source from every song he puts out - he doesn't pay every sample creator either.

  • @ATLTraveler
    @ATLTraveler Місяць тому +15

    Honestly shoutout to OTs team for even responding. Most new cats would ignore that shiz and block them. Then in most cases the new producer doesn’t have the resources to sue to get his cut.

    • @Unlockingparadoxes
      @Unlockingparadoxes Місяць тому

      Facts

    • @antoniosmith197
      @antoniosmith197 Місяць тому

      OT seems like an understandable guy

    • @ang_nguyn
      @ang_nguyn Місяць тому

      well even if he did sue he's not entitled to anything. it was a royalty free pack, I could use this beat if i wanted and theres nothing he can do about it

    • @Unlockingparadoxes
      @Unlockingparadoxes Місяць тому

      @@ang_nguyn 💯

  • @jameslefevre9737
    @jameslefevre9737 Місяць тому +88

    As a lawyer who dabbles in IPR, it would have taken about 2 minutes to figure out there was 0 claim here 😅

    • @micmasters801
      @micmasters801 Місяць тому +2

      Thank you

    • @thefumexxl
      @thefumexxl Місяць тому +19

      He told us there was no claim in the first minute lol Then spent the next 20 showing us him extorting him.

    • @nopersona000
      @nopersona000 Місяць тому +8

      Bro, as an IP lawyer you should also know that royalty-free does allow for a person to use a copyrighted work without paying licensing fees but it doesn't exclude moral rights, i.e. being credit. Yeah he may not get paid, but there were certainly claims to be made.

    • @RayAtchley
      @RayAtchley Місяць тому +3

      Literally anyone can say they're an "IP lawyer" in UA-cam comments lol. This doesn't make your shitty opinion worth anything more

    • @jameslefevre9737
      @jameslefevre9737 Місяць тому +3

      @@nopersona000 correct, hence the need for 2 minutes to review the license terms that waive moral rights.

  • @HITMAN1er
    @HITMAN1er Місяць тому +20

    This is a POS title claiming the mexican ot "stole" your beat when it was a sample and said sample was royalty free. Some bottom feeding ish here. You got credit for something your boy made and credit for something you let go of the rights to.

  • @xavierduran9205
    @xavierduran9205 Місяць тому +73

    You had your lawyers ready just in case it got messy???? You said that shit was FREE!!!

    • @CrymsonNite
      @CrymsonNite Місяць тому +8

      Terms of services

    • @outsomnia
      @outsomnia Місяць тому +3

      Read the law pedro.

    • @apollo6139
      @apollo6139 Місяць тому

      Yeah free for non-commercial use dummy.

    • @robnimil
      @robnimil Місяць тому +5

      It’s not free ANYMORE CAUSE THAT LOOP MADE A SONG PLATINUM

    • @JustAGooseman
      @JustAGooseman Місяць тому +13

      @@outsomnia You mean the same law that shows that Royalty Free copyright status means that you as the customer do not need to credit or pay royalties? Those same laws? That he himself said he applied his works under? Crazy. Its almost as if he is just upset he didn't get paid for work he didn't even do.

  • @2MuchBTP
    @2MuchBTP Місяць тому +14

    That’s why I don’t touch loops out of producer packs… Next time don’t call it a “Free Pack”…

  • @Stinkyclawkilla
    @Stinkyclawkilla Місяць тому +248

    I don’t understand how you put out a sample for free use then try to get paid when someone uses it

    • @GoBeyondMusic
      @GoBeyondMusic Місяць тому +30

      The loops are free to download but does not mean you own the loops.

    • @GoBeyondMusic
      @GoBeyondMusic Місяць тому +35

      Unless the loops are marked as royalty free by the owner of the loops you must seek clearance, you can’t just use a loops and sell the masters to the loop without permission.

    • @bobbyrbmg4370
      @bobbyrbmg4370 Місяць тому +34

      Free beat packs are often intended for non-profit use, such as for practicing or recording before making an investment. They may not be able to be distributed, performed, radio streamed, or monetized in any way. If you want to use a beat for commercial purposes, you may need to purchase a license from the producer.

    • @Marki_beats
      @Marki_beats Місяць тому +5

      Bro first u gotta give credit and its not free for distribution u still gotta pay for royalties

    • @fortieznoshortiez
      @fortieznoshortiez Місяць тому +13

      the main goal was being credited. a platinum record that has it's main melody being your creative content without any hint of credit toward you is a pretty big deal.

  • @jirehbochung5983
    @jirehbochung5983 22 дні тому +3

    Kyle is probably the biggest drama queen in the producer community.

  • @SAwesome2
    @SAwesome2 Місяць тому +153

    This isn't subject to any copyright claims, in my semi-educated opinion - I went to music college for audio engineering and music production, and took a few semesters of music/copyright law classes. Now, that doesn't make me a lawyer, but I have more than just an online search. If they sampled your song, or cut a loop out of published releases, that would be one thing. But he released a free sample/loop producer pack to the public - it is for public use. That is literally what the purpose of the pack being released was - to have other producers use it. In this case, I think it would be the same thing as you buying samples/loops, he just did it for free (self promotion).
    This is almost like a form of entrapment. I'd bet that if this went to court, Kyle would lose.
    EDIT: He released it as, free, and many are saying "royalty free." Now I've found a section in the website terms (listed nowhere near the purchase or product provided) that specifically lists
    "Royalty free is applicable only to songs under 5,000,000 streams, anything above 5,000,000 streams must be cleared with original creator."
    So basically, they wrote in a clause/exception for "Royalty Free" so that they could list it as royalty free but still make money/get credit for it if it was successful. Under 5 Mill streams wouldn't profit much. I'd argue that is false advertising, if nothing else. I'm unsure of precedents but I think it is fairly inaccessible and misleading.

    • @imonaroll9502
      @imonaroll9502 Місяць тому +22

      Yep. Entrapment for sure. I would change the title to this video though.

    • @luigifan322
      @luigifan322 Місяць тому +32

      the packs come with terms and conditions. he didnt even get credited for the beat at all. one could assume the producer made it himself, not even from a pack. i dont even think it would have been that big of a deal if he simply credited him.

    • @imonaroll9502
      @imonaroll9502 Місяць тому +23

      @@luigifan322 once you slap a free to use to something, don’t expect anything in return. It’s the basis for FREE!

    • @talkstran6352
      @talkstran6352 Місяць тому +8

      When you get the beat it's free as long as you don't use it to make profit. If you want to use it for commercial release you need to buy or lease the beat. I'm a producer too

    • @Chris.Rhodes
      @Chris.Rhodes Місяць тому +5

      You can't use it for COMMERCIAL use. Using it to make a track, and sing in the bar or something is one thing. There are terms you agree to. Kyle would win most likely due to that fact it was commercially made.

  • @joeproyaknow
    @joeproyaknow Місяць тому +8

    This felt like a net flix special much less a youtube video. The production the editing the way you telling these stories now are so dope and clean. As entertaining as this was i also felt it was a good lesrning experience. Kinda gives you an idea on how to handle yourself in these type of situations. Not everything always has to be about securing the bag. Sometimes building new relationships can be much more valuable in the long run.
    Well done kyle, handled this with class. Much respect and congrats to darez on becoming a plat producer!

  • @polrogi
    @polrogi Місяць тому +73

    Bro, womp womp, it was a free pack, he didnt need no permission from you and didnt need to pay a single cent.

    • @thenioanto
      @thenioanto Місяць тому +10

      fr if the song wasn’t viral he would have done nothing… 😭😂

    • @fatdan172501
      @fatdan172501 Місяць тому +3

      @@thenioantowithout the beat it wouldn’t of been viral, y’all make no fucking sense, you want money for work that wasn’t yours lol.

    • @YoungNosaTv504
      @YoungNosaTv504 Місяць тому +3

      ​ you need to read the fine print in the tos on the site (section 5 to be specific).It's royalty free until you hit a certain amount of streams or purchases (of course you would never know if you meet that criteria until it happens so ig if you wanna save legwork and avoid being accused of stealing after the fact assume this guys loops are not royalty free. Would be nice if they bothered to include tos within the pack or be more transparent about these predatory business decisions but alas.

    • @IamDapperDanMusic
      @IamDapperDanMusic Місяць тому

      It’s shitty when they say free and it’s not I’m not rich or viral by any means and they copyright strike my songs. I get it make my own or buy it but you see…live and learn

  • @Ranchgoddess
    @Ranchgoddess 15 днів тому

    Who else was thinking, “He can’t just show that beautiful baby at the beginning and end it there….WE NEED TO SEE THE BABY AGAIN!” Thank you for the multiple shots with your precious miracle 🙏🏼 and congratulations 🥳🥳🥳

  • @adamg4754
    @adamg4754 Місяць тому +196

    It's free until someone makes money off it then all the rats wanna come and take a bite of the cheese 🧀😂

    • @LuhDon_2
      @LuhDon_2 Місяць тому +21

      That’s how it works…you can’t take a free beat and make money off of it💀

    • @fatdan172501
      @fatdan172501 Місяць тому +24

      Why can you get paid off someone else’s work but they are rats for wanting to get paid for their work lol? Listen to your self…

    • @christoph1596
      @christoph1596 Місяць тому

      What are you even saying? 😂 You sound dumb dude

    • @Musicphilsgood
      @Musicphilsgood Місяць тому

      @@fatdan172501 because they sold it to you... AHHHH I get it. Wow, you got a doomsday coming to you! Dude, they're going to get rid of taxes here in a few years and you're going to be so confused. "But I own a barn! The government is letting me use their land, don't they want my money?" The purchase was made. You made the purchase to try to beat out all of the losers that wanted to make a hit. No one made a hit. Kyle got thousands from them. Wow, you made a hit, Kyle is happy for your the purchase. GAME OVER. YOU WON THE GAME.

    • @fatdan172501
      @fatdan172501 Місяць тому

      @@Musicphilsgood not one part of that incoherent babble made a lick of sense, stfu lol.

  • @Dan0rioN
    @Dan0rioN Місяць тому +19

    Was confused the whole time bc said it was free from beginning so... Title was click bait.. USED* not stolen

  • @Catorii.Jamiaa
    @Catorii.Jamiaa Місяць тому +168

    Free or not the producer deserves credit!!

    • @dnch
      @dnch Місяць тому +14

      depends on the license the "free pack" is released with

    • @OfficialMoneyGordo
      @OfficialMoneyGordo Місяць тому +5

      Majority of producers never get credit so what’s the issue

    • @DarkNinja-bf6hk
      @DarkNinja-bf6hk Місяць тому +32

      ​@@OfficialMoneyGordoyou don't think that's an issue..?

    • @coopernicks
      @coopernicks Місяць тому +13

      ⁠@@OfficialMoneyGordojust cuz it always happens doesn’t make it right, so that’s exactly what the issue is.

    • @TheRealNotoriousJesse
      @TheRealNotoriousJesse Місяць тому +6

      @@DarkNinja-bf6hkit is an issue that’s why I try my best to give credits where it’s due

  • @savagemotiv
    @savagemotiv 9 днів тому +4

    "One of my free drum kits"

  • @B0jangler
    @B0jangler Місяць тому +9

    Hard to believe anything from a person blinking that much.

  • @Insanelyrical
    @Insanelyrical Місяць тому +78

    When the free drop kit is not actually FREE😂😂😂...
    Edit: Oh wait.. guess not!. Would of been cool if they got em like 10 stacks at the very least... Imo

    • @PickDeath
      @PickDeath Місяць тому +8

      they never are royalty free are the true free ones most free ones are for personal use not for commercial

    • @Insanelyrical
      @Insanelyrical Місяць тому +3

      @@PickDeath finish watching the video bruh

    • @killerkat
      @killerkat Місяць тому +1

      @@Insanelyrical Thats because it was a beat from a long time ago "Before" what the sites you run across now... Most "Free" beats or loops are free but there's always that paywall hidden in the small print... I almost bet they changed all those older "Free" beats with an updated clause attached at the bottom...

    • @Insanelyrical
      @Insanelyrical Місяць тому +1

      @@killerkat riiiiight...

  • @Khino
    @Khino Місяць тому +7

    yall need to lookout for that fan too. bro came through big time!

  • @AsherLaFlame
    @AsherLaFlame 5 днів тому

    Regardless of the haters saying clickbait, this was a great video and shows how wild and confusing the music industry can be…great video man would love to work with you🙏🏾💯🔥

  • @Cvusmo
    @Cvusmo Місяць тому +4

    That's solid. All people involved are just awesome people making good music. Hell yeah