Pastor vs. Mormon Missionaries (Amazing Conversation)
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- Опубліковано 24 тра 2022
- Watch this new video of Pastor Jeff Durbin talking to two Mormon missionaries outside of the Mormon Temple in Mesa, Arizona, during the recent Easter Pageant. Jeff is joined with Eric Jaeger and they discuss Joseph Smith's false prophecies and the Mormon christ.
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No, it does not. When are you coming back to Kauai? Hassling Mormons worked so well for.you there! 🤣
What is the Gospel tell Me ???
@@james8996 The word gospel means good news. Of course if something is good news there must be or have been some prior bad news.
The bad news is that everyone is born a sinner.
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.
Our sins separate us from an infinitely holy and righteous God. Isaiah 59:2
2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, .
We have all been sentenced to death. That is how serious God considers our sin. We have earned/deserve the death penalty. 10/10 people die. We are all waiting to die. We are all headed to outer darkness/hell.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death
To make matters worse there is nothing we could ever do to satisfy the wrath of God against us. There is nothing we could ever do to pay the penalty for our sins, since God requires a perfect blood sacrifice.
The good news, the gospel, is that God sent Christ to pay the penalty for our sins in full with his life's blood.
I Peter 2:24
4 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
When anyone repents of their sin and puts their faith in what Christ has already done for them on the cross, Christ will immediately forgive them of their sin and grant them the gift of eternal life. Christ gives them His righteousness, which is the righteousness of God. God then sees them as perfect/perfected and they can walk out of God's court room free.
II Cor. 5:21
21 For God hath made Christ to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
It's called imputed righteousness.
Romans 4
What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.
3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
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Hebrews 10:14
14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
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@@jlewis8145 what's the Good News
This is tough, but I am currently Mormon but lately my heart has been calling for Jesus only. I wanna be saved and give my heart to him. My whole world can be shattered by this but i can’t lie I don’t believe in Mormonism. I only believe in Jesus and want a relationship with him.
This is the first time I have shared this , hopefully I can make the right choices and truly be saved
Jesus said, Follow me. Jesus is the good Shepherd. Jesus will never let you down.
John 10:27-29
So happy to hear your story brother! I've ministered in Israel among the Jews & I know about the osterization that you're about to go through with family & friends BUT I encourage you to persevere to the prefecture of our faith, Christ Jesus, whom is found in the Bible only.
As for you, I also encourage you to find a local pastor at a Bible-believing & Bible-teaching church to share your story & journey with & to seek their help & guidance in coming to the Jesus of the Bible. I know a pastor/minister in your area is waiting on you to walk into their office. May God guide you to the right leader. Wish I was in your area to help you out!
This is awesome. Jesus is the answer!
Pray to God, read His good news of the gospel in the New Testament, and your eyes will be open to the truth. The Holy Spirit is calling you. Mormonism is not the answer and only Christ can save. I left the LDS church last year and have never had such peace and rest since. Anything is possible through Christ and all He wants is your heart; surrender it to Him. Christ is worth it all. I am praying for you.
It truly is the best decision you could ever make. It won’t be easy, but if you follow Him you will never thirst again!
I’m an ex-Mormon myself, I got saved last year. Your videos helped plant seeds into my heart before my friend shared the gospel with me and gave me a Bible to read. Now I can even say that I’ve gotten to share the gospel and my testimony with LDS missionaries myself. God bless you for what you do, it brings tears of joy to my eyes. & Thank you Jesus for saving lost souls including mine.
Praise Jesus!!
Awesome news, the more you learn the more the truth of the world is so clear.
What do you mean by your friend gave you a Bible to read? You did not have one and did not read the Bible when you were a mormon?
@@EstevanLPLeal If you read the Bible as a child, you would know that Christ offers forgiveness of sins, salvation, eternal life and exaltation for free. That is how great the love of Heavenly Father is!
Heavenly Father never required a tithe to the LDS church, a 'worthiness' interview, church membership, a temple recommend, a masonic Endowment Ceremony, putting on Lucifer's power and priesthoods, learn secret passwords, tokens, handshakes, grips and signs, marriage, callings, temple garments, baptizing the dead, etc..
Hey my friend, welcome to the way the truth and the life. God bless!
Prayers for those young ladies. I remember the day 34 years ago when a few strangers walked up to me and my friends on a beach in Alabama. They said we love you then proceeded to preach to gospel.
Wow would love to hear the story
@@RK4CHRIST I was with a few friends on a beach in Alabama. I was about 16 and my friends were of similar age. A few young girls and a couple guys all around 18 walked up to our group and said we love you then started telling us how Jesus loved us so much he sacrificed himself for us. My friends walked off and I was just captured listening. They said we can tell you’re receptive to the word. I listened for a bit as they preached and prayed. My friends said as soon as they realized what it was they were done. It was powerful enough that I remember it still today.
@@joer2962 that's an awesome sorry I'm glad you heeded the call man did your friends ever come to Christ
@@RK4CHRIST none of those friends ever surrendered to Christ. I’m still in contact with one pretty regularly. They’ve all had some addiction problems. I must say I’ve even had some alcohol issues 20 years ago. I’ve stumbled many times so I can understand how tough it is for those that have not turned their lives over to Christ. It’s basically impossible. But along this journey I must say I’m beyond blessed and I’ve had many things happen in my life that could not be explained through the lens of a worldly view. I couldn’t imagine walking through this without grace. I pray for those others to receive the same.
Praise God!
I loved how open these two girls seemed. They didn't interrupt you once and they were very respectful, so that's to be commended! I hope they accept the true Jesus Christ and the real Gospel of eternal life.
Hallelujah! That’s how they are brought up. Which is kinda another deception like their belief
I sensed a seed has been planted by the smile on her face!🥰🙏
@John Andy be assured that anyone that requires that from anyone is not a Christian
@@rickweiss2793 Maybe she planted her seed in you. And that is what you sense.
@@jeffwilson4693 Nope! Mine has already been planted.☺️
The true gospel is so marvelous: it gives ALL the glory to God alone. I pray for all the people who are so close to the truth yet still deceived by a works-based religion will come to know the gospel of grace and rest in the finished work of Christ
S.D.G. !
I am a member of the “Mormon” church. Culturally, my church is a works based religion, but doctrinally it is a grace based religion. The reason they focus so much on works is because many of the founding members of the church come from Methodist backgrounds. Methodist, as the name implies, focuses on the method of how to get to heaven, or in other words, the works. That belief has tricked down into the culture of the modern Mormon church. At a core doctrine level, however, we believe that it is only through the grace of Christ we can be saved. At least this is how I understand it.
@@Andruski94 that could not be farther from the truth. Sir, if you truly believe that Jesus Christ has paid the price in full, I implore you to open the eyes of the blind around you. Even if the Mormon church’s actual teachings are grace based (which it is not), the culture, you say, is works based, and so it’s clear that people are not being taught the gospel of grace. If you believe that our good works are as filthy rags before an infinitely holy God, please tell your mormon brothers and sister to repent and believe in the good news that Jesus Christ said “it is finished” on that cross
@@Andruski94 That's really interesting. I never knew that about a Mormon connection to Methodism. May I ask, your Article of Faith # 3 seems to say you get saved by works, is that right? It's saying saved by obedience to laws and ordinances. Also in the BOM, does it say you're saved "after all you can do" ? It seems a little bit more from these than maybe only cultural, is that right?
So you pray for the ppl who run this channel?
I almost got sucked into Mormonism… Then I began to read The Bible and RAN from it!
My wife is an Ex-Mo. She came to faith through the Word of the Spirit by searching Scripture and exposure through the internet.
@@xnihilo64 Praise the Lord that your wife was awakened! I too came to the Biblical Christ through reading the Bible. The LDS do not follow the same god. I pray for them.
Same
Did you find out that the bible was full of pseudepigrapha and Anachronisms just like the Book of Mormon? Both are commendable and condemnable. Time for evangelicals to have a more balanced and grounded view of the world.
@@terrillmel hogwash
When I talk to missionaries, there is always one that has all the answers and then one that is new and listens. When I talk to them I talk to the one with all the answers but really, I’m talking to the new one. The one that is listening. I want that person to hear all I have to say. They will be the one to take it all in
Interesting point
That's true of Jehovah's Witnesses. The younger one or newer one is more open to the gospel.
I joined the Church of Jesus Christ LDS for the spirit alone. Everything else about the Church, I take in stride.
Thank you for this reminder, Ryan. I will keep this in mind.
Wow that's powerful brother
Leaving the church is a very difficult thing to do even when you know it's not true. I came to the truth 2 years ago after over 20 years of being a Mormon. My wife is still a Mormon and refuses to allow me to teach our children the true gospel. She has threatened to take the kids and leave me if I attempt to share the truth with them. God is good and gives me the strength to keep sharing truth when I can in small amounts. If I mention anything to my wife that proves Mormonism to be false then she tends to end the conversation immediately so it's been a slow process.
Oh no! That is tough! So you two married as Mormons?
@@zeal4god402 yes, we were both raised in the church and our families are pretty much all still in the church as well.
It can be extremely difficult to reach someone who has shut off their mind to the truth. My wife acts in a similar way even though we are true believers in Jesus Christ. One way that I reach her and my child along with others is to watch videos of the truth. turning the volume up just enough! Sermons by John MacArthur, Voddie Baucham, Kent Hovind, What Mormons really believe, The Bible vs joseph smith along with others. These can be power tools even though they might not be in the room they for the most part can hear what's going on. The other is to try and reach her a different way. Find a completely different approach to any topic. This has been tricky for me to do. Maybe one night watch a good Christian movie. The Case For Christ, Courage, Gods not Dead, Do you Believe (BEST) (non of these movies are about preaching just facts on how amazing God really is)
Reaching some people may take a bit and when you pray ask God, AKA Jesus to remove their heart of stone and replace it with a heart of flesh Ezekiel 36:26
I hope this helps in any way. My God, be with you and remember no matter what we are all sinners and are in desperate need of Jesus.
@@1lunifyd Amen. Thanks for the advice. Your spouse not alignment either on some core Christian values?
@@zeal4god402 This is a little tricky. She has her mind made up of what is means to be a Christian in a sense. And when I start talking all I hear is ok preacher and she walks away. Now, this hurts only for the fact that I feel in someway I driving her away when in the long run I'm bring her closer to the truth. There are times when I get to share to truth when we are driving. Like where did the Bible come from and I'll explain it the best I can in the simplest way possible. Or bring up how the Apostles lived and what they went through. Little topics at a time. In the long haul I believe that when the ones we love have a hard time listening to us God, gives us the strength to push on. In order to carve a stone we must chip away at and be patient for the end result.
James 1:19 Be quick to hear, Slow to speak, Slow to anger.
“Those who have ears let them hear”
It was such a blessing to me to get to go out with the church one night to share. Praying for eternal fruit from this time, including the video.
As an ex Mormon keep making these videos keep challenging them we are waking up little by little and your winning the battle
Can you imagine the Savior narcissistically teaching like these kind wonderful men? wolves in sheeps clothing I so testify . the Lord said if you can produce a book of Mormon yourselves then you have an excuse not to believe. If Joseph Smith was a fraud , then his work could be duplicated which is impossible . I also testify that the Book of Mormon is the sealed book seen by Isaiah 29, and that the Lord is able to '' do His own work '' to produce a '' book to put down false hoods and teach doctrine for today, the Latter DAys '' without the help of these gainsayers. God Bless and best wishes
@@tomasneel1980how on earth is this narcissistic? He gives all glory to Christ. Turn away from Mormonism and follow Christ the way he intended.
So refreshing to hear someone sharing the Truth seasoned with humility and love...bless you bro.
Thank you so much for doing another mormon missionary video, these are my favorite! Its actually how I found this channel. I love you guys!
Another powerful conversation! Keep planting those seeds! Thanks so much for sharing it with us!
mormon response: ua-cam.com/video/XnjOx19pkp4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=ThisSaint%27sTheory
This is truly the best street preaching approach I have seen, God Bless you brothers!
One looked prideful and hard hearted and the other looked as if she knew what Jeff was saying was true! I pray that they both become convicted and repent from their false religion! Praise Jesus Christ!!
I'm not even Christian but I have an extraordinary amount of respect for this man and his work.
Why not man? If it's good news for the host & his team, and those they share with...why not you? We all have the appointment with the Creator, and Christ came to make us ready. That's how and why God loves us. He didn't abandon us to ourselves. John 6:37
mormon response: ua-cam.com/video/XnjOx19pkp4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=ThisSaint%27sTheory
He's a con artist.
Apostate
@@mattr.1887lol God bless you
This touched my heart so much. Every time I heard God's words through Jeff's mouth - so well spoken and gracious, it brings tears to my eyes.
Praise God for Pastor Jeff Durbin's ministry!
mormon response: ua-cam.com/video/XnjOx19pkp4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=ThisSaint%27sTheory
Yes, I’m an Exmormon myself and I witness to Mormons on a regular basis. But Durbin is way better at witnessing to them than I am
@@nsasupporter7557 Praise Jesus, that He lifted the veil! See you in the Kingdom!!
And the Pastor should follow the Catholic Church
vanessa,
Can you imagine the Savior narcissistically teaching like these kind wonderful men? wolves in sheeps clothing I so testify . the Lord said if you can produce a book of Mormon yourselves then you have an excuse not to believe. If Joseph Smith was a fraud , then his work could be duplicated which is impossible . (hense and a prediction to you ! yes YOU! watch us build the Temple mentioned for Egypt, Syria , Israel in isaiah 19 as well the Temple in Jerusalem ) I also testify that the Book of Mormon is the sealed book seen by Isaiah 29, and that the Lord is able to '' do His own work '' to produce a '' book to put down false hoods and teach doctrine for today, the Latter DAys '' without the help of these young handsome wonderful bearded gainsayers . God Bless and best wishes
Glad to see more evangelism videos! So encouraging!
So much love, knowledge and wisdom. May God always bless you, brothers!
I hope and pray God will move through them through your spoken word in bringing forth what he has truly taught. God uses us to bring others to him.
I was a Mormon 2 years ago. I was truly saved 2 months ago. Thank you for preaching Gods word.
Praise the Lord
Amen❤️🥰✝️🙏
Exceedingly well done brothers, and may the seed planted here take root and save souls
Your a blessed man, Jeff. God has truly blessed you with His wisdom and Love through the power of the Holy Spirit. Amen.
Amen and Amen. You have planted the seed, prayers that the Holy Spirit will make it grow. ❤✝️🛐
My prayer is that Mormons would not lose faith, but gain Christ. God would you do this for the Mormon community? Thank you Pastor Jeff and Apologia Church for your ministry.
Gain Christ. I think you decieve yourself!!
Thanks Daniel! I'm LDS and I'm praying for the exact same thing.
That was such an encouragement to watch.
I've been CRAVING more of these videos. Keep them coming Pastor Jeff!!!
Let us pray for them that God will open the eyes of their heart. ✝️❤️🔥
Today I shared the gospel to two mormon young guys and I believe that God's word will work on them, please help me pray for them.
Literally breaks my heart to see how these young men & women are indoctrinated. Even after being presented with clear contradictions they’d rather hold on to a lie than come to know the true & living God. Lord have mercy & pray you draw them to know who you truly are 🙏🏼
No matter what I say next, I want to say that it's great we're all looking to and trying to be more like Christ.
How do we determine that you have not been indoctrinated? They've heard these objections a thousand times. They could have challenged them, but they chose not to, not because they weren't able to.
Do you believe the Book of Mormon?
@@mr400meter I believe the Bible , I just began reading the Book of Mormon with 2 elders from the local lds church. We’re in 1 Nephi chpt 14 now we’ve been going through each chapter to make sure I understand it and read it myself. Unfortunately only thing I’ve gotten is the Book of Mormon / lds church will try to discredit the Bible / Christian church just so much where it leaves room for the Book of Mormon.
@@mr400meter The elders have said the Book of Mormon is another testament of Jesus Christ but reading it so far and speaking to them it’s coming off that it’s the only true testament of Jesus Christ cause the will say the Bible was corrupted or pieces were taken out . Or in the intro of the Book of Mormon a man can get closer to God by following this book than any other book, again a jab / shot at the Bible .
@@phatmhat9174 God requires perfection to get into heaven.
Mt. 5:48 Be ye perfect.
Excellent Jeff, especially your closing comments on Grace and works. These 2 young ladies I hope received your message diluted with your abundant love and compassion for them.
Watching from down in Brazil! This is SO helpful!!!
Praise God for you Jeff and your ministry who do so much good to bring others to Jesus. So passionate and such an inspiration
Glad to see you guys still do this
Durbin overlooking as a true and loving teacher. Awesome to see.
This is a perfect picture of biblical evangelism 🙏🏼
I have Mormon friends that I dialogue with continually with and it's always a great conversation.
Jehovah's Witnesses? Now that's one who can't come out but by prayer and fasting.
I agree . Conversations with lds missionaries are always kind and respectful. The few times I’ve engaged with a Jehovah’s Witness they become defensive and contentious.
@@godtalk9645 Brain washing at its finest.
Jehovaha ❤
JWs have put their trust in an organization, where LDS have put their trust in self-proclaimed prophets. Both have put their trust in mere men, and not the REAL Jesus. But I think you are right, JWs are more hear-hearted about their whole religion. I have family that are still in, and just bringing up questions that makes them face obvious contradictions will cause great turmoil, and they can't even DISCUSS it any more. They truly get defensive, and then will end the convo.
@@xnihilo64 By their fruits ye shall know them.
Amen Jeff. I love how have these convos. I wish more people were open to them.
Yo guys I want to encourage you all about something. While I was listening to the preacher, with the black shirt, I saw the grace he was talking with and a verse from the bible popped out in my head:
“Let your speech at all times be gracious and pleasant, seasoned with salt, so that you will know how to answer each one [who questions you].„
Colossians 4:6
I encourage you all to pray to God to let your speech be gracious, pleasant seasoned with salt, so you’ll know how to answer to each one! Bless you guys, in Jesus name!
❤️🔥✝️❤️🔥
I am LDS and I will just say I appreciate the respect you showed to the sister missionaries.
You bring up some very good points and I can see with both you guys and the sister missionaries, each is doing the best they can with the information they have. The truth is, God is the only 1 who is all knowing, and none of us have all the information and knowledge. All of God's knowledge, secrets and information cannot be contained in 1 book, 2 books or even several books.
Every single Bible is worded differently in literally every single Christian denomination. The words of the bible that are the same in every version, do have words of truth. Logically if it says that there are no other gods before me and I am from everlasting to everlasting, the logic in that cannot be denied. It also says in Romans 8:17 that we are children of God, heirs of God and joint Heirs of Christ....can that logic be denied? Can we truly say that bible, and the way it is written is to be completely logical though? Perhaps. Perhaps not. Perhaps it was meant to be in some ways and perhaps not so in other ways. Could god be referring to he is the only God and none before him in relation to us, HIS children? (and not his father's children) I mean in 1 Corinthians 12:28 it does say God has prophets and apostles in his church. And 2 Corinthians 12:2 it speaks about a man being caught up the third heaven. Will you take those scriptures logically and literally? Of course not, you will say it means something different. That's why we cannot prove anything to each other through the bible, neither can the bible alone prove anything, being written according to the writing styles of each prophet/apostle that wrote it, what has been added and taken away, the variations of each bible in each Christian denomination and whether a scripture should be taken completely logically/ literally or not!
Yes, it is by GRACE that we are saved through FAITH, not by works. We simply believe that faith is not just a believing word, but also an action word. James 2:14 - 26 speaks more about it. No, our works do not save us, however they show our Faith. Otherwise, all Hitler and all the other very bad people would have to say at the final judgement: "I believe" to be saved. If they do not truly mean it, god knows....and much of their works show how they treated others in full conscience.
Romans 8:17 was written to people who were already children of God.
The Bible is clear that all people are God’s creation (Colossians 1:16), and that God loves the entire world (John 3:16), but only those who are born again are children of God (John 1:12; 11:52; Romans 8:16; 1 John 3:1-10).
In Scripture, the lost are never referred to as God’s children. Ephesians 2:3 tells us that before we were saved we were “by nature children of wrath” (Ephesians 2:1-3). Romans 9:8 says that “it is not the natural children who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.”
Instead of being born as God’s children, we are born in sin, which separates us from God and aligns us with Satan as God’s enemy (James 4:4; 1 John 3:8).
Jesus said, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me” (John 8:42). Then a few verses later in John 8:44, Jesus told the Pharisees that they “belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire.”
1 John 3:10: “This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother.”
We become God’s children when we are saved because we are adopted into God’s family through our relationship with Jesus Christ (Galatians 4:5-6; Ephesians 1:5). This can be clearly seen in verses like Romans 8:14-17: “…because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, ‘Abba, Father.’
The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. Now IF we are children, then we are heirs-heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.” Those who are saved are children “of God through faith in Christ Jesus” (Galatians 3:26) because God has “predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will” (Ephesians 1:5).
www.gotquestions.org/all-God-children.html
Latter day Saints worship a different God than that mentioned in the Bible. The true and living God is invisible and a spirit, lives outside of the universe because he spoke the universe into existence, is eternal - He has always been God and never had to work his way to godhood, does not need food, air, water, sex, sleep, shelter, clothing or anything else a mere created being might need. God is the first, uncaused cause of everything you see. No one created God. He does not have a mom or dad. Unlike pagan gods, the true and living God does not have a wife. God created Adam out of the dust of the ground- no wife needed.
I Samuel 15:29 And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent: for he is not a man, that he should repent.
Hosea 11:9 for I am God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee:
I Timothy 1:17 Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.
Hebrews 11:27
27 By faith Moses forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible.
Colossians 1:15
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.
Job 9:32 “In truth I know that this is so; But how can a man be in the right before God? “For He is not a man as I am that I may answer Him, That we may go to court together.
"God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth." - John 4:24
"A spirit does not have flesh and bones" - Luke 24:39
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God used to be a man on another planet,
(Mormon Doctrine, p. 321; Joseph Smith, Times and Seasons, vol. 5, p. 613-614; Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 345; Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 333).
“The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s . . . ”
(D&C 130:22).
God is in the form of a man, (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 3).
“God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!!! . . . We have imagined that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea and take away the veil, so that you may see,” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345).
God the Father had a Father,
(Joseph Smith, History of the Church, vol. 6, p. 476; Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p. 19; Milton Hunter, First Council of the Seventy, Gospel through the Ages, p. 104-105).
God resides near a star called Kolob,
(Pearl of Great Price, p. 34-35; Mormon Doctrine, p. 428).
God had sexual relations with Mary to make the body of Jesus,
(Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, 1857, p. 218; vol. 8, p. 115).
@@jlewis8145 1st of all I want to say thank you for writing respectfully a response and backing it up with many scriptures. It is far better to respectfully explain something, using your own understanding and scriptures than to attack, put down, belittle etc. From the main person who is doing these videos, it seems he is doing the same, which is good and he also honestly cares about the LDS who he disagrees with, which is great!
I read all your scriptures in relation to humans only being children of God if they choose him and righteousness. From a purely logical point of view, that appears to be the case. Personally I believe some scriptures use father and children in a different context, like we as people might say alcohol is your master or you are a slave to the poker machines. Not literal master and slave, but figuratively. I believe that is the context of Satan being a father and only some people being God's children. However from a purely logical point of view, your scriptures are convincing to someone who did not have a view either way. The last thing you wrote was that God is a spirit outside of the universe. Do you believe he is in man's form? In Genesis 1:26-27 he says he does. I will also say that just because God creates something, does not mean it cannot be his child. Example, earthly parents both create a child and are the parents. Of course, they do not create the child's DNA and many other things, however if they did not get together, no child could have been created (unless God intervenes). Also, what do you think HEIRS means when is says in Romans we can become HEIRS of God and joint Heirs with Christ?
As U seem to take the Bible very literally, what do you think about 1 Corinthians 12:28 ??? which specifically mentions apostles and prophets and the word: church and is backed up by Ephesians 2:19-20, 4:5, 4:11-14.
Also in 2 Corinthians 12:2 Paul speaks of man caught up to the 3rd heaven. What is your perspective of that scripture? 1 Corinthians 15:40-42 may back it up , talking about the resurrection and Sun, moon and stars!
What are your thoughts on 1 Corinthians 15:29 speaking about baptisms for the dead? Also in Matthew 16:19 speaking about what is bound on earth can be bound in heaven and what is loosed on earth can be loosed in heaven?
@@jlewis8145 some of the scriptures U mention do talk about us being children of God through choosing him, however others say things like we are his offspring.
Honestly nothing can be proven from or to a latter day Saints from the Bible alone, I and others only bring them up because there are clues which may lead anyone to find out if God has restored the same church organisation mentioned in: 1 Corinthians 12:28 back to the earth (church organisation, not gospel) or whether he has not.
There is a scripture in doctrine and covenants that says those who reject his restored gospel in this life, but reject it in the next life cannot enter the celestial kingdom. The next life is for those who have their 1st opportunity to receive it. That being said God no doubt does not want to reveal it if someone will reject in this life if he knows they will accept it in the next life, because he does not like condemning anyone unnecessarily.
All you can do is lay aside your judgements and what U think U know to allow God to reveal to you if it is true and be willing to fully accept all that entails if he does reveal it to you. If your mind is already made up, and especially if U have publicly made that known (like Jeff Durbin), he probably won't tell U in this life on earth, so as not to condemn you.
If it is true, it is way better to know on Earth. This is where a prophets and apostles are most beneficial to know and where the most benefits of knowing are gained (in my opinion anyway).
What's the worst that can happen if U do seek to find out? U get told: Yes or No or there is no answer given to you either way? Can't hurt either way right?
If it is his restored church, God's timing for everyone, yet I think it is pretty awesome to know on earth.
And despite what Jeff Durbin says, what most LDS believe has nothing to do with Joseph Smith. It is our OWN testimonies. And despite Jeff Durbin saying we cannot trust our feelings, they are not only feelings! The are THOUGHTS that come to our minds too. It's hard to explain unless U experience it. Kind of like someone born blind/deaf/colourblind etc knowing what it is like to see/hear/see colour etc.
Great speech at the end Pastor - Thats the Real Truth.
I truly appreciate Jeff’s disciple making leadership to let other brothers in Christ take charge in these conversations
I went on a mission trip to Salt Lake City to temple square to see the Mormon church. It truly is a different church and religion. They follow a different Jesus Christ. It was incredible to sit down and have a conversation and see the difference in interpretation.
I'm from Salt Lake City. And LDS. I'm interested to hear your experience.
@@dcents5458 I'll testify now of my belief that Joseph Smith was a prophet of the one true God. I testify of the almighty power and never-ending love of Jesus Christ.
I have faith in my religion and you have faith in your religion. Let us live and learn together as brothers and sisters.
@@xeroclan9595how do you know he’s a true prophet of God?
@@ShepherdMinistry I've studied the scriptures and learned it for myself. I'm still young, thus my testimony is not yet fully strengthened and steadfast, but I still know of this fact that Joseph Smith was a prophet.
@@xeroclan9595 You gave an opinion without any facts. What facts do you have that prove he was a true prophet?
Thankyou Jesus. I'm just a filthy rag but Jesus came and rescure me and clothed me with the garment of righteousness
I pray that I can meet Jeff one day!
God bless you and your ministry in Jesus name! 💙💯🙏🏽
Well done guys for being so humble, caring and sensitive in the way you challenged and delivered the message. I think it’s difficult for most to comprehend how jarring it is for a Mormon to hear and consider these things. The cognitive dissonance can be acute. It may take weeks, months or years, but something tells me you planted a seed there.
This is inspiring, the truth in love! Eternity will tell the difference that was made by even a few minutes of conversation.
Love these evangelism videos! Thank you for sharing and inspiring me to share the Gospel. Blessings
I’m so glad you believe in predestination!
1. Is there only one god, or are there multiple gods? If multiple, how is a person to choose which deserves obedience?
2. Would you agree that before anything can exist, something has to create it?
Did your god create everything? If yes, who/what created your god?
3. Is your god infallible?
4. Is your god omnipotent?
5. Is your god omniscient?
6. Is your god benevolent, or malicious?
7. If your god cannot make mistakes, then it follows that everything it creates is either perfect, or that your god intentionally makes things that are flawed. Would a benevolent god intentionally create something likely to suffer because of its flaws?
8. If your god can do anything, and it created the universe, why didn't it simply create a perfect world inhabited by perfect beings? If your god wanted obedience, and god is not malicious, why did god make disobedience possible?
If a parent had two little children, and came to them with a plate of cookies and said,
"These are the best cookies in the world, and I'm going to put them where you have to look at them all day every day.
These cookies are delicious, and if you eat them, they will make you into something just as good as me.
You are NOT ALLOWED to eat these cookies, ever~!"
Then, of course, the kids eat the cookies. The abusive parent storms in, enraged. "How dare you ungrateful children! I am now physically throwing you out of my garden. You will live in torture for eternity as punishment, and all of your children will automatically also suffer torture all of their miserable lives".
Wouldn't a parent like that belong in an insane asylum, or at least in prison?
Suppose the parent had the ability, at any time, to bring the kids back to paradise.....instead, he says, "well, I'm going to TORTURE TO DEATH my favorite son, and THEN, if you obey me like a zombie slave from now on, you can come home"
Wouldn't that parent deserve only HATE, not obedience?
9. If your god knows everything, does it already understand every thought and feeling you have? Does it instantaneously know everything you say and do? If yes, what is the point of religious rituals, such as prayer?
10. Why would an omnipotent and omniscient god not communicate directly and unambiguously with individuals, with no need of books, churches, prophets, signs, miracles, etc?
If a person is not intelligent enough, or not "worthy" enough to speak directly with god, whose fault is that? Who made the person in the first place? If a person is unworthy or incapable of directly communicating with god, how can that person be capable of recognizing a valid spokesperson for god?
11. Think about the person/people who convinced/persuaded/ordered you to believe in a version of god. Are they infallible? Is it at all possible for them to tell you something they sincerely believe, but for that thing they tell you to be actually incorrect?
12. Are feelings reliable tools to guide actions? Suppose I hear a person in my neighborhood talking a lot about the presence of violent break in robberies nearby, and I get apprehensive. I am convinced by the passion my neighbor puts into this story, even though I've seen no tangible evidence. That night, I hear a noise. I FEEL certain that it is a robber breaking in to harm my family. I get out of bed, pull a pistol from the bedside table. Without opening the bedroom door, I shoot through it to get the robber. When I open the door, there is my son, lying dead on the floor from my bullet. I was sure. I relied on my feelings. My fear of a robber. My hope of being a defender father. Feelings, not facts. Was that a good way to live my life?
14. Do you deny that religion (superstition, irrational behavior) is the root cause of most human conflict in history, that for centuries millions have been tortured and murdered "because god told me to do it"?
13. Suppose a person has a book full of maps to guide a group journey. They rely upon it, but the group is perpetually lost.
You question the map book, but your friend insists that the map book is flawlessly accurate.
"How do you know?" you ask. They reply, "I know that this book is accurate and perfect, because it says so in the book."
Your friend insists that the map book is information from god.....but some other people wrote the book, based on their interpretations...why? Why didn't god write the book personally? How could information possibly become more accurate and truthful when filtered thorough con men?.....but that is okay, because of how passionately they shout about their version of the book, and how strongly it makes your friend feel.
When you show them hundreds of self contradictions in the book, they get upset and say that you are just not reading the book correctly.
Which person is messed up? You, or the book fanatic?
How do you justify cherry picking which parts of the bible to follow? Leviticus?
14. If the point is to die and go to heaven, why not simply commit mass suicide and get it over with?
Christ was quite literally a kamikaze; is that what you preach should be emulated in daily life?
15. Why is it necessary to use superstition and irrationality to justify your practical principles?
Why treat humans like a donkey in need of the stick of hell and the carrot of heaven?
If you want positive secular behavior, why not justify that behavior in practical terms?
Why do you need to use HATE and FEAR to get people to OBEY your literally INSANE beliefs?
Wake up. Reality is OBJECTIVE, not subjective.
Religion is a SCAM used by con men to exploit the weak, the desperate, and the stupid. Use your brain, not your feelings.
I needed to hear this. Thank you.
Please post more videos. I am learning how to share the Gospel to Mormons. The Less you post the less I learn. So please post as much as you canz
why do you need to be taught how to share the Gospel with Latter Day Saints? WHat does that mean? Isn't your testimony enough to tell?
mormon response: ua-cam.com/video/XnjOx19pkp4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=ThisSaint%27sTheory
Love this interaction!
Praise God for this! 🙌🏻
I’ve been missing these
I just started listening to this guy I would love to meet him he patience and good person love how calm he is.
Boom! The real gospel is like a punch in the face to those that don't know it...or should I say to those who are not opened to it by God.
Way to go guys!
Punch them in the face. That is what Jesus taught, right? Bless thpse that punch you in the face with your gospel for they shall see God? Or was it peacemakers?
I always pray for my Mormon friends and the world it’s been crazy
mormon response: ua-cam.com/video/XnjOx19pkp4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=ThisSaint%27sTheory
You have been a powerful witness to those two Mormon missionary girls! 🙌🏼
I can’t thank you enough for your commitment, love, time, and courage in preaching the truth to Mormons!!💯✝️❤️
Praying for them.🙏
Brilliant brother well done, keep trucking for Jesus!
I was raised Mormon but it never seemed right and when I heard the gospel it hit hard and I’m all in.
It is crazy that the lie told by the snake in Eden is still being told and believed today. It breaks my heart but the promise of Jesus gives me peace. Blessings to you.
Perhaps the most civil and well articulated discussion between truth believing Christians and Mormon missionaries
Mormons are true believing Christian’s my friend.
@@jakeclayson7647 they might believe the truth in part but certainly not the whole truth. For instance, we can only be saved by grace through faith in Christ alone and nothing else. We cannot become gods and we know Joseph Smith was a false prophet who remained dead after dying. Hallelujah the true savior lives even now!
@@jakeclayson7647 a Mormon Christian is an oxymoron
@@djcraigg69
An oxymormon 😂
@@jakeclayson7647 Mormons are not Christians. They aren't even cousins to the Christian religion.
Awesome conversation. Lord give me boldness to testify!. Praise God!
They just love each other so much. Soooo much!
The crazy thing when you use scripture to back up everything you say and they still don't want to believe and see it that's scary and sad
mormon response: ua-cam.com/video/XnjOx19pkp4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=ThisSaint%27sTheory
@@ThisSaintsTheory I don't know u but just in the first 3 min of your video u posted I stopped watching because u said there are other gods out there.
Sorry u are wrong I don't know the god u serve but the king I serve clearly says he is alpha and Omega the beginning and the end. The first and the last.
He also says that there are no other gods besides him. He clearly states I am the lord and there is none else.
I am not going to debate or argue as that does nothing over the internet.
But I will pray for u that u find the ONE TRUE GOD. God bless you in the only saving name Jesus Christ.
@@franciscotorres7638 I don’t know you but I stopped reading your comment after 3 sentences because you said something I disagree with. So instead of allowing you to defend yourself, I will be attacking you.
@@ThisSaintsTheory have fun.
God bless you in Jesus name.
Are there any texts you recommend that deal with Mormonism on a presuppositional level?
Wow!! Crystal clear, compelling and convicting articulation of the gospel by these compassionate and passionate preachers of the word of God. Powerful and beautiful work of the Holy Spirit, thank you Jesus!! Glory to God!! Mormons we love you and pray for your salvation, in Jesus' mighty name!! Amen
The LDS missionaries are not by any means theologians like these fellows essentially are. Of course they rely on experience and feeling and ultimately if you want to convince someone, this is not the way to go about it by throwing scripture verses back and forth and giving unreferenced supposed statements that Joseph Smith purportedly said. You also don’t really show kindness when you insult them and their religion by calling a person they hold in high esteem “papa smith.” These kinds of street interactions are usually fruitless and leave one side feeling attacked and the other feeling so great that they “owned” the other with their scriptural knowledge and the fact that they have studied all incriminating Mormon talking points for the sake of conversations like this. Sorry, but I don’t see the love in the approach or message.
Hopefully they come to this channel and re listen to the conversation 🔥❤️
I live in Houston and pray I can find some brothers and sisters to hit the streets with like this 🙏🏽 Gods kingdom is at hand
Dallas from The Chosen needs to watch this. Great job Jeff and Apologia church 👍
He mormon?
@@djokampungtz2108 He doesn't seem to know that Latter-day Saints have a false Christ.
Dallas stated on video basically Mormons and Christians have the same Christ. He is deceived.
@@estherlewis7458 Dallas is not an idiot. He has actually read his Bible unlike most of the people who watch Jeff.
@@jacobsamuelson3181 My children went to school with Dallas and his two younger brothers, Michael and Chadwick. (Waukegan Christian School) His dad Jerry sat next to me at a school meeting once. I know a few other things, too.
I personally have read the entire Bible 40 times now. I read it through every year.
I know that the Christ of the Bible claimed to be God. That is why Christ was crucified. It was called blasphemy and punishable by death.
Christ was not crucified because he was walking around claiming to be a created being the brother of Lucifer. That's not blasphemy and punishable by death. If you read your Bible you would know that Christ created Satan.
You would also know that Christ has already that your sins would not be forgiven and you would spend eternity in conscious torment in outer darkness if you did not believe that he was God.
It's that simple.
Jesus Christ is not Santa Claus.
He is our living Prophet, Priest and King!
Christ offers forgiveness of sins, salvation, eternal life and exaltation for free! That is how much God loves everyone! ❤️
Christ never said you needed to wait 1800 years and believe the Book of Mormon is true, believe that there is salvation only in the LDS church, believe that Joseph Smith was a true prophet of God, tithe to the LDS church, go through a worthiness interview, confess sins to a bishop (only God can forgive sins), get a temple recommend, go through a masonic Endowment Ceremony, put on Lucifer's power and priesthoods, learn secret passwords, signs, grips, tokens and handshakes, wear temple garments, get married, do callings, family history, etc..
Jesus Christ would never damn anyone for not believing in the 'eternal principle of polygamy,' (D&C 132), threaten to destroy Emma Smith or any woman if she didn't go along with her husband's gross immorality, (D&C 132:54) and force women to share their husbands with other women for all eternity.
And of course the 'other women' get to serve as sex objects for all eternity for LDS men who happen to get to the 'top level' of heaven.
Heaven is not a house of horrors. Men will not be sent on missions and come back to find the 'prophet' has married their wife, 14 year old girls will not be forced to 'marry' a 37 year old man so their parents can get a higher spot in heaven, etc..
There will be no sex in heaven.
No marriage and no 'eternal families.'
Warning people that they are on their way to outer darkness/hell is commanded by God.
Please read your Bible.
You should care about your own soul.
Eternity is a long time to be wrong.
I have just found this channel watching back to back all videos , wonderful conversations so happy my Christian brothers in Chris are out there for saving lives I wish to join a team like this to serve Lord one day, God Bless You guys.
Go from one false religion to another. Calvinism is not true either.
@@StillProtesting who is Calvinist?
GOD bless you all at Apologia Studios...
I am a convert to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints of 27 years, and joining this Church is the best decision I have ever made. I studied this Church in great detail, and then I sincerely prayed to know if this is truly God’s Church. And I can say with God as my witness, that He bore firm witness of the truthfulness of His Church to me, and He knows that I know it. Everyone has their own beliefs and I completely respect that. But this is my belief, and I hope others can also respect that. But regardless if they do or not, I know that God manifested the truthfulness of His Church to me. And that is good enough for me. God bless you all my brothers and sisters in Christ.🙏😌
When you deny Christ and say he is a created being the brother of Satan, you have no chance of ever getting into heaven. God will not be mocked.
Jesus Christ said that your sins would not be forgiven and you will be condemned if you do not believe that he is God in the flesh. John 8
Amen
I know that combating spiritual blindness is like fighting a hydra. There are multiple problems, when it comes to speaking to Mormons in particular. 1) They frequently swallow things they know aren't right, and thereby develop a sort of reflex. It's sort of like playing a bad poker hand, when you know you should fold. You get so far in (maybe all-in) and you just can't fold because you're too invested--even though you know you can't win with your unsuited 2-7. (See Romans 1:18-25) 2) They are trained to believe the Bible is unreliable, and evangelical Christians are well-meaning, misled, and eventually will come over to their side...or be baptized by proxy, after their deaths. They just look at you with that patient smile & nod. They don't revere the Bible, so why would they allow themselves to be contradicted by it? They are praying for YOU, because you only have a fragment of the truth (but technically so do they, because revelation is an ongoing thing for them, but you can't use logic, so...) 3) They don't really know what the Bible teaches. They are also completely ignorant of Church History (ours as well as their own). 4) Words like: salvation, gospel, prophet, testimony, baptism, apostles, priesthood, scripture, Jesus Christ, heaven, hell, church--you think you are speaking the same language as them, when you try to talk to them, but the meanings of ALL these words have been twisted by the LDS church. As a result, the point you are making...well, you are NOT actually making it at all. The shared beliefs you think you have with them (that act as a door of utterance)? You actually DON'T share beliefs with them. So it's not a real conversation you're having. To compound this problem: Mormons are taught that they DO have the same Jesus, the same gospel, the same Bible as you! So half the time, they think you are on the same wavelength too! 5) There's some huge mental block regarding Joseph Smith. Because the LDS church is so hard on its members regarding the need for repentance (which isn't the repentance taught in the Bible*), it seems unfathomable to them that Joseph Smith, whom they worship, could actually be capable of the "smear campaign" we try to make them aware of. Whatever he did, surely he MUST have repented of it, right? He had at least 34 wives (confirmed--others unconfirmed). At least 12 of them were teenagers--some of which were groomed as young as 12 and married as young as 14. These were NOT just "ceremonial" marriages. At least 11 of his wives were married to other LIVING men. There is 1 case where he had both a mother & daughter pair as wives. To pressure these middle-school aged girls into marriage, he told them things like: this will ensure your salvation, or this will allow you to be reunited in eternity with your deceased mother, or this will ensure the honor & prosperity of your whole family in eternity, or I don't want this anymore than you do but God has appeared to me and told me if I don't he will kill me. He would say whatever it took to get what he wanted. Prior to all of the polygamy (which some of his wives helped get a signed petition together for him saying he was NOT a polygamist), he was accused of "untoward advances" against 9 women in the space of 10 years, in 4 different states--it wasn't just 1 community, and it wasn't all after he was a controversial leading figure. The 1st was his wife's dear friend, on the very year he got married. There is legal documentation about all of these complaints & the proceedings & testimonies that followed. (Imagine how many others didn't complain!) The year Joseph Smith died he had himself ordained as King of the World, took a 14 year old girl as his wife, repeatedly tried to get his 1st counselor to be a "sexual substitute" for him with his wife Emma, ordered an assassination on a former governor, and was coordinating with multiple tribal leaders to set up cells around the country with an eye to overthrowing the US govt. And these Mormons believe somebody like this is capable of setting up a "True Church" and "Restoring the Gospel". If Mormons believe you must obey the 10 Commandments to obtain your eternal salvation, then the guy they sing "Praise to the Man" about is burning in hell for sure. His 1st counselor testified that he was demonstrably guilty of at least 7/10 of the commandments, but even he still believed the Book of Mormon was true! In Matthew 7, Jesus said: "A corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit...A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit." They SAY they belong to the "Church of Jesus Christ", but they do not actually believe or follow what Jesus Christ taught. Jesus doesn't run that church any more than the Queen of England runs the United Kingdom. "They profess that they know God; but in their works they deny him..." (Titus 1:16) It's very plain to anyone who actually reads the Bible...which is one reason why there are increasing numbers of ex-Mormons! In fact, many non-Mormons argue that the Book of Mormon is NOT the "Word of God", but I have to partially disagree with them. It is obvious that 3 chapters from the Book of Abraham (which is a total fake) are taken straight from the 1769 edition of the King James Bible, and half of the content of 1st & 2nd Nephi are also plagiarized from that same edition of the Bible. There are lots of phrases & verses in the Book of Alma that are taken directly from the 1769 KJV as well...so, maybe it's 25% God's Word? (LOL) 6) As in any church where the leaders claim to have a message/revelation for the congregation that they received directly from God (and not from the study & exegesis of his Word), this type of activity causes the church to lose the important distinction between God & the man of God. They can often be found defending their leaders fiercely, because they think they are defending God. The leader (to them) is the conduit for God's Word to them. This is as true of the LDS church as it is of the Catholic church, or the Elevation church! Because of their conflated view of God/leadership, any "attack" on the leader or any edict from the leader are dealt with in a way the average Christian probably isn't equipped to respond to effectively. 7) The Bible says my role in combating spiritual blindness is a bit of a "support role only". I might like to reach in, convince, and save the day, but that is the role of the Holy Spirit. II Timothy 2:24-26 says that I should be ready/able to teach when an opportunity arises, but ultimately just PRAY that God will release them from their blindness & captivity. This tells me the amount of time & fervor I devote to preparing & delivering my arguments should be significantly less than the amount I expend in the discipline of prayer. My "perfect words" will not save the day, and if they could, I would have still lost the war, because their faith would be established in my reasoning rather than in the power of God's Word & the faith bestowed by the Holy Spirit.
@@estherlewis7458 …Jesus Christ has always existed my friend.
@@believethegospel9788 …I appreciate the time it took you to type all these things against the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. And I’m not going to have a debate with you about your beliefs versus my beliefs. I would just ask you one question; if God told you something with such clarity that you couldn’t deny it, would you still deny it, simply because someone else didn’t believe you?
OK from the outset, I applaud the bravery of these young women to engage in conversation. And their honesty. Her first statement can reveal their works based theology. The best book in my opinion is Hebrews, especially chapter 1. And to challenge her thinking, what about this zinger--Hebrews 10:14 (NKJV) For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.
He, that is Jesus, has perfected (past tense) forever! Wow, folks this is not religion, but faith in the finished work of another. That is what makes biblical Christianity so radically different from all others. Faith in Christ.
Excellent, praise God, I will pray for them. Thank you for delivering the only truth perfectly.
You pastors have such patience and approachable demeanor and engagement. God bless you, and I hope these girls come to know the one TRUE CHRIST
Jehovah's Witness and Mormon men used to come to our door frequently when I wasn't home to talk with my wife. My wife would always tell them to come back when her husband came home. Satan waited until Eve was alone and apart from Adam in order to deceive her. Missionaries from the Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons frequently send out woman to deceive other woman as well. Pastor Jeff and Crew did a good job speaking the Truth in Love to these two young women. There is a time and place for hell fire and brimstone preaching missionaries, and also a time and place for a more gentle approach. As always, speak the Truth in Love, and always be led by the Holy Spirit.
Jehovah's witnesses stopped coming to my house when they realized I was well versed in scripture and could argue against their beliefs. The word of God really is sharper than any sword.
I'll be praying for your wife. She seems like she deserves much better.
@@jacobsamuelson3181 how is praying for her going to do anything?
So you can share beliefs but Mormons and jw’s can’t? Evangelicals are quite self serving.
Jeff is amazing very inspiring the truth is in his heart and these girls know it
I love this I love the approach and the way they talked with love and not hate and judgement, but with discernment. Have seen so many approach in the wrong way in social media, but just happy to see this.
Do you also love how he took scripture out of context. That is a sin and it is called bearing false witness. Jeff is lying to you to get followers or he is ignorant of what those scriptures actually mean. Either way it is sad. You are being led astray with lies and half truths. Do you think Jesus would approve of that sort of behavior? I am telling you this out of love.
@@ctcsadboc22Do you think Jesus would approve of a church telling people God requires a worthiness interview, a temple recommend, a masonic Endowment Ceremony, and 10% of their income to get to the 'top level' of heaven?'
@@Elizabeth-rk3do I wish for you the best. Where love is, There God is also. The temple is a beautiful place full of love. It has nothingto do with madons. It is symbolism found in the bible. (You don't know what you are talking about, and if you do you should be ashamed) The word tithe means tenth. If you ever want to bring people over to your side love is the best answer. If you think we are in an evil cult, why are you abusive? Why do you use gotcha phrases. You don't care about me. You just want to tear me down. You and Jeff Durbin want to tear down everything I believe and leave me and my family in ruins. Be a builder not a destroyer. That is sad.
Thank you GOD for men like this
By how loving and gentle these missionaries are. We know who is more Christ-like. ❤
Interestingly, your statement shows again exactly the flaw in believing you can earn salvation and be like Jesus. “There is NONE righteous, no, not one. No man enters the kingdom without him”. We are compelled to turn away from our sins, but the very definition of our humanity and need of Jesus is that we all come short of his glory. These gentlemen did nothing rude either, mind you, and both sides were indeed very respectful.
I love how you talk to people. Very loving and your faith in Christ shows. I agree with you that we are not saved by works like the Jews were. Yet Jesus was very clear about how we are to conduct ourselves to be saved. "You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone." James 2:24 NKJV Clearly we are saved by Grace which is a free gift like you say, but we have to have faith first. And this faith must be alive in what we do. We can't just have faith and keep it all to ourselves, we must keep the commandments as Jesus said.
miss watching these!
Excellent!! Press on brothers!! 🙌🏼
I pray their ears hear.
Interesting to see one of the girls immediately cross her arms in a defensive manner. Her whole life’s teaching will be turned upside down if the truth of the Gospel gets through. Hallelujah!
That’s about as clear as it could be pastor Jeff 👏🏽
I have learned a ton from your videos a true blessing you are my friend
I'm a Christian who have the experience that God testify to me that the Book Of Mormon us true. ❤
I have been preaching to mormons and the last question I left them was if the LSD church is right and I'm wrong I will be in the 3rd heaven. But if you are wrong and I'm right you will go to hell doesn't that concern you? Always leave a heavy question for them to think about.
This is my response to your question: ua-cam.com/video/0bNmUvfBKzY/v-deo.html&ab_channel=ThisSaint%27sTheory
i didn’t think bout that one
Amen 🙏 Pastor Jeff That’s awesome 👏 Praise Jesus Christ Our Lord
John 20: 21-23: Jesus appeared to his disciples after his resurrection and said to them “Peace be with you. As the Father sent me, so am I sending you.'
22 After saying this he breathed on them and said: Receive the Holy Spirit.
23 If you forgive anyone's sins, they are forgiven; if you retain anyone's sins, they are retained.
So good!
I would say So you believe Jesus
and Lucifer are brothers
Conversation ends right there
If these girls were actually in saving grace with God they would not want to shut down and leave when Jeff and his friend are talking about the things of God to them.
The fact that I heard one girl from her mouth say if you get over the cult feel. That tells me deep In her heart it’s a cult. God is a God of freedom
Living [the Savior’s] way brings joy and peace, and He invited others to that way of living with gentleness, kindness, and love.
J. Anette Dennis
Amen!