The Corkscrew at Laguna Seca in 50 different racing games (Forza, Gran Turismo and many more)

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  • @Dryminator
    @Dryminator 2 місяці тому +1887

    Its hilarious how wide the roads in The Crew were. That Corvette looks like an ant on that massive road.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 2 місяці тому +53

      And also double the amount of width than in GT7.

    • @icon6343
      @icon6343 2 місяці тому +55

      Yep, it looks like an RC car

    • @andrededecraf
      @andrededecraf 2 місяці тому +19

      The crew Wild run, car looks like a toy, it's so small

    • @laulugo1052
      @laulugo1052 2 місяці тому +24

      looks like dont have license of te track

    • @NexXxu
      @NexXxu Місяць тому +3

      RC Vette

  • @moosamalik5453
    @moosamalik5453 2 місяці тому +1657

    Is it me or does Gran Turismo 3 look insanely good for it’s time?

    • @MDDeGrande1994
      @MDDeGrande1994 2 місяці тому +29

      Too orange though.

    • @confuseatronica
      @confuseatronica Місяць тому +162

      modern race sims don't look 23 years better than that

    • @herrsilberstein
      @herrsilberstein Місяць тому +72

      @@MDDeGrande1994that's because of the sunset daytime

    • @twandepan
      @twandepan Місяць тому +89

      @@confuseatronicathe graphical improvement graph is flattening out in gaming in general

    • @_4G63_
      @_4G63_ Місяць тому +17

      Its massive jump in graphic 😳

  • @TheDelkioGaming
    @TheDelkioGaming 2 місяці тому +951

    13:15 that is the saddest laguna seca ive ever seen

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 2 місяці тому +12

      Laguna Seca in FM8 says hi.😅

    • @bottomtext593
      @bottomtext593 2 місяці тому +151

      ​@@purwantiallan5089 Blud that's pushing it. The Crew 2's Laguna Seca is a SPECIAL CASE of bad

    • @gorjlg
      @gorjlg 2 місяці тому +32

      Corkscrew with no elevation change.

    • @GymmyRhys
      @GymmyRhys Місяць тому +9

      The game is The Crew, which is an arcade open world racing game, so ofcourse its going to be bad...

    • @dmcpartlin17
      @dmcpartlin17 Місяць тому +1

      Holy shit yeah

  • @alexandermorris8476
    @alexandermorris8476 Місяць тому +95

    Appreciate the dedication to continuity keeping Dodge Viper in all the GTs and the Corvette for almost everything else

  • @Jupex
    @Jupex 2 місяці тому +806

    Everyones going for the authentic look, then there's Crew 2

    • @benjimc1
      @benjimc1 Місяць тому +70

      Draw laguna Seca with your eyes closed 😂

    • @thecoach1683
      @thecoach1683 Місяць тому

      69 upvotes

    • @MaseTheAce
      @MaseTheAce Місяць тому +15

      I agree that it’s pretty bad compared to the other renditions shown here, but considering how massive The Crew’s map is, the developers were probably more focused on quantity than quality, hence why it doesn’t look as accurate.

    • @NOTHlNG
      @NOTHlNG Місяць тому +11

      The Crew 2 isn't a realistic simulation. Its map is a loose representation of real places, not intended to be 100% accurate or lifelike.

    • @pumba5715
      @pumba5715 Місяць тому +9

      its a really bad game

  • @gibsonf06
    @gibsonf06 Місяць тому +449

    It’s amazing to see the leap in graphics and sound from 1999 to 2005, and then how little progress we made from 2014 to 2024😂

    • @Iheaili
      @Iheaili Місяць тому +12

      If anything we back car games like forza and gra turismo sound horrible, to bad grid wasn't here

    • @benn454
      @benn454 Місяць тому +25

      @@Iheaili Forza sounded better than GT. In GT4, everything sounded like a vacuum cleaner.

    • @Mk6Adam
      @Mk6Adam 24 дні тому +1

      That’s how development of any and all technologies work…

    • @UKMikey
      @UKMikey 24 дні тому +2

      ​​@@benn454Yes, GT ended up having to poach the Forza sound guy

    • @ivandksd
      @ivandksd 23 дні тому +11

      Yhea. Another thing that intrigued me is how forza motorsport was looking better with every iteration even though it was the same hardware (xbox 360) nowadays you don't see that kind of progress.

  • @DavieDrum98
    @DavieDrum98 2 місяці тому +288

    The Crew 2 is like if you were driving laguna seca in your dream… Who the hell was in charge of rendering that abomination😂

    • @manparido
      @manparido Місяць тому +6

      Because in the crew 2 the circuit is in the middle of a HUGE map, its not like its just a circuit, its part of an open world so there is not that many details on every spot

    • @dundercontrol
      @dundercontrol 2 дні тому

      @@manparido So make up a track instead of ruining a real one

  • @gameclips5734
    @gameclips5734 2 місяці тому +245

    some of these developers didn't even try lol

    • @swilleh_
      @swilleh_ Місяць тому +1

      ivory tower...

    • @TurboAlice
      @TurboAlice Місяць тому +12

      Forza and The Crew are the biggest offenders here imo. TC is just shit while Forza used the same scan from like FM2 up until FM7. Granted they rescanned it for FM8 but still, it's laughable

    • @titogaming2004
      @titogaming2004 Місяць тому +12

      ​@@TurboAlice at least Forza had the audacity to make the corkscrew correctly compared to the crew and crew 2

  • @BmikroB
    @BmikroB 2 місяці тому +387

    The way NFS Shift holds up to this day is just phenomenal. Even visually the game manages to look gorgeous even by modern standards.

    • @mr198221
      @mr198221 2 місяці тому +10

      I loved that game. It was even my first game Platinum.

    • @gameclips5734
      @gameclips5734 2 місяці тому +49

      visually is the only way it holds up, the actual driving looks janky as hell

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 2 місяці тому

      ​@@mr198221for me my first racing game that got platinum trophy was F1 2010.

    • @CamrosMedia
      @CamrosMedia 2 місяці тому +6

      Too bad it has crap wheel support on pc

    • @Finduh
      @Finduh 2 місяці тому +1

      GT on PSP looks better lol what're you on about

  • @f2pgenshinnoob933
    @f2pgenshinnoob933 2 місяці тому +237

    GT2 looks awesome compared to games from the same era. Polyphony really worked on that geometry

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 2 місяці тому +13

      Laguna Seca in GT3 also.

    • @logoncal3001
      @logoncal3001 2 місяці тому +5

      Polyphony spent good chunk of the gt2 development in that Track, on modeling/physics. They dedicated hard on it.

    • @zodiac909
      @zodiac909 2 місяці тому +4

      It was enhanced by Emulator settings.

    • @RCmaniac667
      @RCmaniac667 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@hudsonjaResolution is upscaled of course, but models and lighting are still the same​

    • @belxander293
      @belxander293 Місяць тому

      Yes, also because it's on emulator. And after that, it's always the same Laguna Seca since GT4. No change. Gran Turismo has so bad graphics compare to the other after.
      Forza Motorsports used the same tracks a lot too (Forza 3 to 5 i would say).
      But if we watch Laguna Seca in Ride 4 it's pretty amazing.

  • @mrmidnight32
    @mrmidnight32 Місяць тому +39

    Jesus… the viper at Leguna with the tire screeching is so iconic.. that was literally half of my teenage life

  • @koybze
    @koybze Місяць тому +53

    the jump to gran turismo 3 gets me every time

  • @joswriste3095
    @joswriste3095 Місяць тому +14

    I like how you included the left hander after the corkscrew. My favorite track sequence in all of racing.

  • @TiE23
    @TiE23 Місяць тому +41

    15:47 GT7 is impeccably accurate to the real thing. I just looked up an onboard lap from an IMSA qualifier and it looks exact. Only thing is I think the real track is way dirtier haha.

    • @no8lc7c39
      @no8lc7c39 Місяць тому +13

      GT has always been my favorite, but my biggest problem has always been how the tracks just seem way too clean.

    • @Ravenholm337
      @Ravenholm337 Місяць тому +3

      That shit’s wild in VR the first time. In a Super Formula 😵‍💫

  • @Deleted_Alt
    @Deleted_Alt 2 місяці тому +96

    WTF is that rendition in the crew games? They're so wide and smoothed out.

    • @BuhBuhGuyMan
      @BuhBuhGuyMan 2 місяці тому +28

      Not just that, the turn is also segmented sort of like a staircase for no reason.

    • @devasanny
      @devasanny 2 місяці тому +29

      And they got the worst laguna seca I've ever seen.

    • @GymmyRhys
      @GymmyRhys Місяць тому +3

      Those games are arcade open world racing games, so ofcourse its going to be bad..

    • @RCmaniac667
      @RCmaniac667 Місяць тому

      Licensing issues i suppose

    • @Paragleiber
      @Paragleiber  Місяць тому +19

      @@RCmaniac667 Why would this have anything to do with licensing issues?

  • @keiraneagen3336
    @keiraneagen3336 Місяць тому +55

    The jump in graphics from Gran Turismo 2 to 3 is pretty crazy

    • @UzumakiNagato
      @UzumakiNagato Місяць тому +3

      Thats why the PS2 console is still the most sold console of all time

    • @xxczerxx
      @xxczerxx Місяць тому +5

      Gran Turismo 3 was like a shift from BC to AD , it's the first game that feels modern

    • @p.staycalm
      @p.staycalm 29 днів тому

      It's even larger than this video shows, most games have been inaccurately 'cleaned up' and looked nothing like this at the time they were published 🤯

    • @KreepaEvoX
      @KreepaEvoX 19 днів тому

      Emulator bud, it looked good, but nowhere near this

    • @kasuraga
      @kasuraga 14 днів тому

      the jump from the PS1 to PS2 in terms of graphics was probably the last great leap in graphics that we'll see. Even without emulation. We went from wobbly polygons to something that was near photo realistic at times (Especially in GT4)

  • @ThunderDashHub
    @ThunderDashHub 2 місяці тому +41

    Crazy to see how the bridge was along the last turn, and then moved to the small straight just before the last turn out the corkscrew.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 2 місяці тому

      The bridge should've been positioned a little bit further forward.

    • @LyamBenacon
      @LyamBenacon 2 місяці тому +7

      This had me so confused, I thought there used be a bridge mid corner that was removed after 2006. But I didn't find anything about it, I only noticed that it was incorrectly placed after a looong time

    • @henlostinky273
      @henlostinky273 Місяць тому +2

      they relocated the bridge in 2004 to make more runoff space for motogp. it's funny because you can just about pinpoint the date from when games started to acknowledge the change, and then there's GT PSP still using the recycled GT4 version in 2009.

  • @cookincars
    @cookincars Місяць тому +26

    I didnt ask for this video, but I'm very glad I watched it

  • @namelessjade
    @namelessjade 2 місяці тому +152

    You can see how with each year the differences in graphics become less and less visible but the hardware requirements keep growing...

    • @sanmotorix3109
      @sanmotorix3109 2 місяці тому +21

      Bad Optimization

    • @kysco
      @kysco 2 місяці тому +72

      its normal to happen. It's called Asymptote. When the limit is already stablished (real life graphics) getting closer to it will be less noticeable each time, no matter how much power you throw at it, the limit is already there.
      The closer you get, the more (exponential) power you need to achieve a noticeable difference.

    • @LucyCurtin
      @LucyCurtin 2 місяці тому +30

      Law of diminishing returns
      The closer we get to complete photorealism, the harder it is for graphics to improve even if the hardware improves accordingly

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@sanmotorix3109true. That happens to 2020s videogaming as well where size of those games can hike up to 300GBs for each game.

    • @porterde08
      @porterde08 2 місяці тому +6

      @@kysconot what he was talking about. Dude is saying if they are not different why does it require something better run it. Short story, you’re getting ripped off to buy more hardware.

  • @J.Wick.
    @J.Wick. Місяць тому +21

    It's still amazing to me just how accurate GT1 & GT2 were for their time. The corkscrew looks miles better in GT7 or Forza obviously, but the layout remains consistent from GT1/2. So glad I got to experienc those games in their heyday.

    • @nicholaswood3250
      @nicholaswood3250 2 дні тому

      I grew up near Laguna Seca, and I think GT 1/2 might be the most “true to life” renditions of it I’ve seen here.

  • @EpicSOB_
    @EpicSOB_ 13 днів тому +1

    you unintentionally made a fantastic showcase of how Video Game Graphics have changed over the last couple decades

  • @dmcpartlin17
    @dmcpartlin17 Місяць тому +25

    Bro, i thought the first game was ass. The Crew 2 fucking dropped that bar into the earth holy hell..

  • @mattdecker6791
    @mattdecker6791 Місяць тому +54

    Having driven Laguna Seca in reality, no video game can duplicate the feeling of going weightless as you enter the corkscrew. Driving there was one of my life's greatest memories.

    • @roywhiteo5
      @roywhiteo5 26 днів тому +9

      I spun out at the top 18 years ago in my old rx7. That first part is more steep than stairs

    • @redeyez444
      @redeyez444 25 днів тому +1

      No game can describe the grade of the course or The true hight difference

    • @k1llerclips835
      @k1llerclips835 20 днів тому +1

      @@redeyez444iRacing VR

    • @novarat4089
      @novarat4089 20 днів тому +1

      i got a ride in an Ariel Atom for a lap around laguna seca once, literally felt like I was flying

    • @KingLich451
      @KingLich451 19 днів тому

      ​@@novarat4089must be one heck of an experience, that car is a beast

  • @Mcali1984
    @Mcali1984 Місяць тому +78

    The first game to nail how steep the chicane was, was Forza 1. 😮

    • @j3d89
      @j3d89 Місяць тому +11

      Gt2

    • @ruancarlos0555
      @ruancarlos0555 13 днів тому

      ​@@j3d89not even close

    • @Merc7734
      @Merc7734 3 дні тому +1

      ​@@ruancarlos0555 Nah, definitely GT2

  • @purwantiallan5089
    @purwantiallan5089 2 місяці тому +26

    The Corkscrew at Laguna Seca in Gran Turismo 2 to 6 still looked so vibrant and colorful.

  • @Carbonpolter
    @Carbonpolter 7 днів тому +3

    The Crew games are absolutely criminal when it comes to racing or physics…

  • @logoncal3001
    @logoncal3001 2 місяці тому +23

    Gt2 was not fucking around on Laguna Seca, what the hell.
    It is criminally well made compared to other games in its era.

  • @FRYSMASH
    @FRYSMASH 17 днів тому +6

    Child me would be in awe watching someone take a Viper around that damned corner in gran turismo. That corner and RWD cars were the bane of my existence as a child.

    • @pppcorn
      @pppcorn 13 днів тому

      u should play test drive unlimited 2 and cruise in manual in a 2010 viper

  • @reynoldkissling7159
    @reynoldkissling7159 Місяць тому +20

    1:10 the difference in quality, especially sound quality, between GT2 and Superbike (released a year later) is insane.

    • @thecalicreez
      @thecalicreez Місяць тому +6

      Thats why budgets are important.

  • @朝の火JUNNA
    @朝の火JUNNA 2 місяці тому +30

    I feel the chase camera in the GT series started to get worse from GT4 onwards. It's still the best GT in my opinion, but in GT3, the chase camera still had that semi-drift aspect. You could see the front of the car and check it slip/slide, which gave you a sense of oversteering. The chase camera in GT4 started to feel more fixed, and the movement more artificial. idk

    • @Squidward-jv7go
      @Squidward-jv7go 2 місяці тому +4

      It’s adjustable in GT Sport and GT7 at least, but yeah it was locked in GT4- GT6

    • @DevDreCW
      @DevDreCW Місяць тому +5

      @@Squidward-jv7go As a GT7 player, its still so rigid even at the loosest setting. the GT team is really slow about improving certain things. It took them until GT Sport to improve the damn engine sounds.

    • @DerpSherman
      @DerpSherman Місяць тому +2

      In a weird way,the chase camera in the Forza Franchise feels more like an evolution of the GT3 one than the GT4-GT6 one,even giving use of the right stick for a global view (that i find odd that Polyphony took so long to finally use it).

    • @maudelhoyo4019
      @maudelhoyo4019 Місяць тому +1

      Why would anyone even use the chase camera in Gran Turismo? That's the worst view in any racing game unless youre playing an arcade racer like Mario Kart and Need for Speed.

  • @Krondelo
    @Krondelo Місяць тому +6

    I hit this corner more in Forza Motorsport 3 than any other racing game. I remember when meta got to the point that the Nissan 300Z was one of the top competing cars if tuned right. But i also held a top 15 lap time with a tuned Evo.

  • @solsticecity
    @solsticecity 2 місяці тому +16

    Me as a kid playing GT3 and GT4 going round Laguna reverse so that I could crash into the other cars on the Corkscrew and see them 'fly' 😅

    • @colin-nekritz
      @colin-nekritz Місяць тому

      Yeah but that’s how you can get through by the corners faster… use the other car’s sides to steer and ricochet around corners. Is it true to real life? No. Did it work in-game, you bet!

  • @brandonpierce9522
    @brandonpierce9522 20 днів тому

    Brings back the best memories of countless hours!!! Good times! Thanks.

  • @mahmoodyousif5204
    @mahmoodyousif5204 2 місяці тому +56

    GT2 looks next generation comparison to games from same era

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 2 місяці тому +2

      Project Cars 2 Laguna Seca also great looking.

  • @Doty6String
    @Doty6String Місяць тому +5

    I’ve stood at the corkscrew and IRL it’s absolute madness. The drop is insane.

    • @voongnz
      @voongnz Місяць тому +3

      You can really get an idea of it in GT7 with VR, and weirdly feel the drop almost.

  • @mindspinn311
    @mindspinn311 Місяць тому +8

    0:18 I had this game and wow I don’t remember it being that inaccurate!

    • @davi_cabral18
      @davi_cabral18 Місяць тому +3

      The curve does exist but is made in a way that is actually way easier to drive through it. Didn't like it too to be honest

  • @BkSMedia
    @BkSMedia Місяць тому +5

    Maybe it's just me, but I like seeing all the different interpretations of HUD in all these games. You can see it was an after thought in a lot of the earlier gen games, but then developers tried to create their version of a nice looking UI that is accessible to all players. Notice how almost all racing games have the tacho on the bottom right, and the map on the bottom left, unless you're Ubisoft and reverse it with The Crew, or that one Alfa Romeo Challenge game 🤣

  • @mr.fuscles
    @mr.fuscles Місяць тому +3

    Gt3 and NFS Shift will always be my favorites.😊

  • @FerrosFRG
    @FerrosFRG 2 місяці тому +8

    Such an iconic track, i've always had a hard time at it on GT2

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 2 місяці тому +1

      Especially on 1 lap time trial in S License with 1998 Viper GTS-R TEAM ORECA LMGT2.

    • @sevionus80
      @sevionus80 Місяць тому

      @@purwantiallan5089 The good ol days 😢

  • @waltermercado9152
    @waltermercado9152 Місяць тому +6

    Wow, gran turismo 3 was really ahead of its time.

    • @roywhiteo5
      @roywhiteo5 26 днів тому +1

      It really felt like the beginning of the future

  • @activatewindows8609
    @activatewindows8609 Місяць тому +4

    Sports Car GT 1999 actually looks really good for its time

  • @Jusrr
    @Jusrr 23 дні тому +1

    This is awesome. Going to Laguna for the first time, then racing there was definitely a bucket list item. Although there is no feeling quite like barreling down the Corkscrew for the first time in real life. I would say Gran Turismo 6 - 7 got it the most accurate.

  • @AGRC314
    @AGRC314 Місяць тому +11

    I’ve done so many laps in Forza Motorsport 8 I never realized how good I have it lol. I think it’s the best version of the track out of all of these.

    • @Miichi5
      @Miichi5 19 днів тому +1

      You must be blind then. Gran turismo 7 track is as if you are watching a real video of the real track

  • @Crumpooz
    @Crumpooz Місяць тому +6

    13:15 If you ordered Laguna Seca at Temu.

  • @DavieDrum98
    @DavieDrum98 2 місяці тому +9

    Before 2001, nobody else’s game was even remotely close other than GT hahaha

  • @tastefullynerdy1161
    @tastefullynerdy1161 2 місяці тому +4

    And once again I'M flabbergasted by how amazing GT4, GT5 and the Shifts are.
    Still amazing games to this day.

    • @simionturcan2616
      @simionturcan2616 25 днів тому +1

      The shift was pretty good especially playing it with the steering wheel. The only problem with that game was the shaking ass camera.

  • @AdadG
    @AdadG 2 місяці тому +2

    It's very interesting and amazing how trees have been a problem for racing games until now, not even the most recent games show them convincingly.

  • @rs91filsdewill12
    @rs91filsdewill12 20 днів тому +1

    Gran Turismo 3 c'est une claque graphique pour l'époque. Ce jeux était incroyable ! Et tellement au dessus du marché qu'il est toujours jouable aujourd'hui et procure autant de sensation !

  • @kebabwarrior2457
    @kebabwarrior2457 2 місяці тому +15

    Glad to see The Crew 1 there, i really miss the game

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 2 місяці тому +2

      The CREW 1 still fantastic along with DRIVECLUB.

  • @LilGonkYT
    @LilGonkYT 12 днів тому

    There's just something about old racing games man. They just look so cool and more fun to me

  • @gregd806
    @gregd806 Місяць тому +4

    Forza and GT Really Nails the Steep Nature and narrowness of the Corkscrew imo.

    • @ATKieren
      @ATKieren Місяць тому

      GT2 looks amazingly accurate for its time.

  • @lupodellasleppa
    @lupodellasleppa Місяць тому

    GT3... I remember the nights spent watching my dad racing 40h endurance races... damn those were the times of the simple yet challenging games. Now all games are so damn complicated yet similar to one another, and you look in the web for guides and builds, and it just makes them more and more the same between themselves

  • @johnnyboycamm
    @johnnyboycamm 28 днів тому +4

    TOCA 2 was insane for 2004

    • @Odin3v
      @Odin3v 22 дні тому +1

      And Toca 3 was even more insane in 2006.

  • @CUTWEST
    @CUTWEST 12 днів тому

    Went there once and filmed the corkscrew. It was a dream come true for me.

  • @66lwmorgan
    @66lwmorgan Місяць тому

    This definitely brings back some memories.

  • @hollywooda111
    @hollywooda111 Місяць тому

    Driven this piece of track for years and always adored it. But GT7 in VR I actually felt it!!!... magnificent

  • @zodiac909
    @zodiac909 2 місяці тому +8

    My guy hit Lap 49 on GT2 👀👀

    • @benjimc1
      @benjimc1 Місяць тому +1

      Some games no lap count, other, you know he was enjoying

  • @brentkrueger7848
    @brentkrueger7848 18 днів тому

    Its amazing how every version of th track is vastly different in every game

  • @whitelightning4031
    @whitelightning4031 Місяць тому +2

    The sound on RaceRoom is very accurate!

  • @Joopyter724
    @Joopyter724 Місяць тому +3

    That 2008 ABS and Traction control in Iracing is crazy lmao

    • @Paragleiber
      @Paragleiber  Місяць тому

      It's still like that in 2024, lol. The video is showing the current version of the game of course.

    • @fuzzytron
      @fuzzytron Місяць тому

      @@Paragleiber I really don't think that's the current version. The track textures are a lot better now, there's no burger ad on the gantry coming to the corkscrew, ABS doesn't flash the brake lights like that, etc.

    • @Paragleiber
      @Paragleiber  Місяць тому

      @@fuzzytron Well, I recorded the iRacing clip myself shortly before this video was posted and this is what the game gave me. And I don't see why it would have given me an older version. I certainly didn't download an old one on purpose.

  • @ImJusSha
    @ImJusSha 5 днів тому

    Need for speed shift was one of the first car games I got as a child it still looks beautiful

  • @mikec3260
    @mikec3260 19 днів тому

    So awesome to see my fav race track played on all the different games. TOCA Race Driver 2 for the win. LOVE that game!

  • @seagull_racer
    @seagull_racer Місяць тому +1

    Awesome video, disappointed you didn't include Star Wars Pod Racer though.

  • @madmax2069
    @madmax2069 Місяць тому +2

    2:11 F355 challenge was an Arcade game that was released in 1999 then ported to Dreamcast in 2000, after Sega pulled the plug on the Dreamcast it was then ported to the PS2 in 2002.

    • @ThrillHog
      @ThrillHog 23 дні тому

      I have it for the ps2 it’s okay

  • @yomo68
    @yomo68 2 місяці тому +4

    Awesome video! I think you might've forgotten GRID games and Driveclub unless they don't have Laguna Seca lol

    • @Paragleiber
      @Paragleiber  Місяць тому +1

      I don't know why you would think that. If a game isn't shown in a video you should assume that it's not intended to be shown and not that it was forgotten.

    • @yomo68
      @yomo68 Місяць тому

      @@Paragleiber Makes sense

    • @zZMaDsKILLSZz-1
      @zZMaDsKILLSZz-1 Місяць тому

      @@Paragleiberhe’s saying that because the Grid games were perceived as being better then almost everything you showed except GT sport.
      He just didn’t know the track list.
      I love racing games and most of what you showed was like 12 minutes of straight hot garbage and maybe 3 minutes of quality games.
      Hope this helps !

    • @Paragleiber
      @Paragleiber  Місяць тому +1

      @@zZMaDsKILLSZz-1 No, I don't think that he is saying that. Don't put your own words into other people's mouths. I don't agree with you either. And no, your negative doesn't help and is not welcome here. Better take it elsewhere.

  • @2JZwithabigsingle
    @2JZwithabigsingle 16 днів тому +1

    iirc, Gran Turismo devs mapped the realworld tracks with laser surveying tech, so they should be pretty accurate. Nurburgring especially was a masterpiece in Gran Turismo 4. They even put the realworld track graffiti in

  • @castin5244
    @castin5244 19 днів тому +2

    The crew map builders:
    "references? nah I'll just do it from memory. I've played forza a few times"

    • @authenticNL2
      @authenticNL2 15 днів тому

      I've looked at Google Maps satellite a few times and converted all Imperial units to Metric then back to Imperial 🤗

  • @NOTHlNG
    @NOTHlNG Місяць тому +4

    0:55 I mean, it took you 49 tries to make the perfect recording of tackling the Corkscrew or what else made you to run a 49 lap time attack in Laguna? :)

    • @Paragleiber
      @Paragleiber  Місяць тому +1

      No, in that game I was recording a full lap for a different video, not just the Corkscrew. And I wanted to push my lap time as far as possible.

    • @NOTHlNG
      @NOTHlNG Місяць тому

      @@Paragleiber I see, thanks.

    • @i_asemoon
      @i_asemoon Місяць тому

      Hercule Poirot attention to detail level!!! 👍🏻👌🏻

  • @SteveBrandon
    @SteveBrandon 2 місяці тому +5

    I'm glad F355 Challenge was remembered but the Dreamcast version from 2000 looks slightly better than the PS2 version although I suppose the PS2 version was chosen to keep the footage consistent with the third person view seen in the other games considering that the Dreamcast version only has cockpit view (not counting modern hacks that let you play in third person).

    • @Paragleiber
      @Paragleiber  2 місяці тому +3

      Remembered is the wrong word. I had never heard of this game before looking for games for this video. This was my first time playing it. And the PS2 version was simply chosen because it's the platform that I am personally familiar with. I don't have any connection to the Dreamcast platform at all, so using a Dreamcast version of a game that also has a PS2 version is not something that I would ever even consider. But if the Dreamcast version only has cockpit view, then yeah, that obviously would have disqualified it as well. :)

    • @reeceschrock396
      @reeceschrock396 Місяць тому

      Nothing wrong with admitting you aren't able to find an authentic dreamcast OP 😂😂 They are still around

    • @Paragleiber
      @Paragleiber  Місяць тому

      ​@@reeceschrock396 What makes you assume that I am not able to find one? I haven't even looked for one. It's not a platform that I am currently interested in.

    • @ThrillHog
      @ThrillHog 23 дні тому

      @@ParagleiberI think he was just pulling your leg 😉

    • @Paragleiber
      @Paragleiber  23 дні тому

      @@ThrillHog I don't understand what you mean with that.

  • @KyberGaming47
    @KyberGaming47 16 днів тому

    More interesting to me is the sound progression throughout the years😲💯

  • @TheDonSolo
    @TheDonSolo 20 днів тому +1

    Wow. What a task. Good on ya m8.

  • @VardelRF
    @VardelRF 2 місяці тому +3

    Ayy, my favorite corner is finally here!

  • @haydenhayes6696
    @haydenhayes6696 Місяць тому +3

    I want to know who was in charge of designing this on the crew. Clearly they’ve never heard of a hill before.

  • @ajk_
    @ajk_ 20 днів тому

    It’s crazy how each studio had to model the same track and the scale and weight of everything feels total different.

  • @TwstedLizard
    @TwstedLizard Місяць тому

    The graphical jump from TOCA to GT3 is mindblowing

  • @rxw5520
    @rxw5520 4 дні тому

    It’s wild how little progress was made in the last 15 years compared to the prior 15. Makes you realize we’re so close to photorealistic that in 15 years from now these games will still look almost the same.

  • @retinalblur
    @retinalblur 12 днів тому

    I love that the Viper in GT2 took that last corner at 120mph 😂😂😂

  • @ccramit
    @ccramit Місяць тому +1

    I'm impressed GT2 was able to make it look decent back in '99 while newer games had trouble with it. But then, it's Gran Turismo, so shouldn't be a surprise.

  • @iri989
    @iri989 2 місяці тому +2

    Miss the Corkscrew in Indycar Racing PC

  • @lasdicanacho
    @lasdicanacho Місяць тому +3

    still loving TOCA RD3 and SHiFT 2

  • @maxberg9383
    @maxberg9383 22 дні тому

    Even it’s not the best line being taken in every game it is impressive to how much it has and hasn’t changed

    • @Paragleiber
      @Paragleiber  22 дні тому

      What do you mean with not the best line being taken?

  • @rasputinf
    @rasputinf 25 днів тому

    Sports Car GT brings me a lot of memories...

  • @Twangabilly
    @Twangabilly 17 днів тому

    That tyre sound from Gran Turismo 2… ❤ Nostalgia

  • @tdyerwestfield
    @tdyerwestfield 27 днів тому

    Forza had it closest first. It's amazing how some of these have the corkscrew almost flat and only slightly downhill.

  • @elonhawkstein8156
    @elonhawkstein8156 Місяць тому

    It's cool to see how they made the track before laser mapping vs after. The early games have the first turn at ~120° into the second turn of 90°. Compare that to the real track that's more like 70° into 80° which is what makes that section so incredibly difficult, especially with the elevation change

  • @xDriver69x
    @xDriver69x Місяць тому

    Great video, it would be interesting to see the updates to some games that are still in development like RaceRoom and iRacing

    • @Paragleiber
      @Paragleiber  Місяць тому +1

      Those games were of course shown in their updated version at the time of recording.

  • @niftyfiftytwo1484
    @niftyfiftytwo1484 2 місяці тому +2

    It's fun how no one could figure out where the bridge was supposed to go for like 15 years lol

  • @NoxNyctores427
    @NoxNyctores427 2 місяці тому +12

    Some say only Mario Kart is missing Laguna Seca, so go fix that Nintendo

  • @razvanbela
    @razvanbela Місяць тому +3

    Maybe next one do the Radilion on Spa :)

    • @Paragleiber
      @Paragleiber  Місяць тому

      I already covered that one in multiple videos. :)
      ua-cam.com/video/NMLqAVrKiQo/v-deo.html
      ua-cam.com/video/i17L3snHo_A/v-deo.html

  • @LilDP
    @LilDP 19 днів тому +1

    Nfs shift looked so good for its time.

  • @dirtracer2414
    @dirtracer2414 29 днів тому +1

    Nfs shift was definitely ahead of its time for that year

  • @retro_alex
    @retro_alex 20 днів тому

    Toca world touring for the ps1 looked so dang goooddddd

  • @DallyLRUFC
    @DallyLRUFC Місяць тому +1

    I was reading the comments while watching the video and thinking ‘surely The Crew won’t be that bad…
    Holy shit.
    Anyway…
    I think the lack of change after 2014 is because you stayed in chase cam. The onboard first person view is where the development really started to kick in after that period.

  • @DrRyan82994
    @DrRyan82994 15 днів тому

    it’s crazy how big a step up GT2 was

  • @waltersteyger1215
    @waltersteyger1215 Місяць тому

    Just here for the memories. F355 and toca where my favorites. So many hours pvp in f355

  • @AuRoRaCuRtAiN24
    @AuRoRaCuRtAiN24 Місяць тому +2

    これから先のグラフィックは誇張された現実表現へと向かっていくのか、より自然に留めるのか。少なくともどのソフトウェアも視点別のサウンドは改良を続ける必要がありそうだ。

  • @vvstream
    @vvstream Місяць тому +17

    best chasecams - in Forza

    • @Vattiis_Happonnen
      @Vattiis_Happonnen Місяць тому +1

      Absolutely. And the sound is consistently good to excellent with each generation. How did Polyphany not figure out the Viper exhaust note until 2017???

  • @trm4life
    @trm4life 7 днів тому

    GT3 was what really got me hooked on that track. The whole time I'm watching this person take this corner though, I'm wondering why they didn't go further left. Brake at the hill, put your left tire over the curb, and the down hill becomes almost straight....

  • @D3dshotCalamity
    @D3dshotCalamity Місяць тому +1

    I've been to Laguna Seca, I've seen the Corkscrew with my own eyes, so it's fun to see what games get it, and which don't. Most accurate is probably Project Cars, because that shit is SUPER steep and absolutely terrifying. Least accurate is 100% The Crew, they made it look like a bunny slope.

  • @manparido
    @manparido Місяць тому +3

    Damn... It was 2001... GT3 came out then.... PHYSICS 😮 what a moment to be alive