Based on the high pace of parts of the video, and the relatively low popularity of 4K computer screens, I think moving to 60fps would be a better alternative.
Funny you should mention that because I do use 60fps on the gopro footage. By recording and uploading the rest of these videos in 4K (when possible).... UA-cam gives me better bit rates when it scales the video footage down to 1080 for your screen :) Not my first rodeo :)
Great review! That new tank and airbox setup is pretty wonky. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the WR 450f. It seems like it would solve almost all the problems you mentioned with this bike.
+eveRide ADV WR450f is a fantastic bike. It's heavier and slower than the yz but it will still haul the mail. In my opinion its a great trail bike but not a race bike. Its really reliable and still has the great front forks you get with Yamaha's. You also get E start which is really nice for single track.
Great vid, I'm a 4-stroke and a Yamaha guy...and this video was perfect. I was happy to watch this knowing that you weren't biased against either side. It's just as you said, it's a motocross bike...not an enduro...it's set up perfectly for a track, but not so much for the trails
I’ve trailriding 2 strokes my whole life ,decided to pick up a 2016 yz450f for a steal was previously ran as an ama supercross bike and the 15 minutes I got to ride it ( since it’s cold as hell and the grounds frozen ) was just crazy , never ridden anything this big and was not expecting the power , I’m 300 lbs 6’3 and this thing pulls the wheel in every gear . Deffinately a handful and will hopefully get use to it coming spring and summer monthes , can’t wait
Love your reviews, man. I just switched to two stroke from a 2012 WR450 that was pretty well modded. Went to a YZ250X. The WR is a beast and has a super fast motor, but that X is a masterpiece in anything technical compared to it. I keep checking out your channel to see if you get to review one. It's definitely the most well rounded bike I've ever had. Keep reviewing. I've bought quite a few products you've reviewed because of your detail.
MX bike owner here. All I do is trail riding. Haven't been to a track....ever. Love my crf450r. Find it difficult in tight trails especially here in Florida where it's all sugar sand. Hard on the clutch especially since I have to play with it YET keep the power so the sugar sand doesn't eat me alive. Literally. The sand is deep and wants to swallow you whole in lower speeds. Ocala National forest seems to be the best place to open up a MX bike other than a track. Nice wide trails, long straights and lots of berms. Nothing tight. Very reminiscent of a track. Oh and about your comment in the video about needing that much power. I agree with you. The average MX rider doesn't need that much power let alone the average off road rider. Do we like it? Absolutely. I don't need the power to be fast but I sure do enjoy it. Great review.
Good review. I don't want people to be mislead on how 450 four stokes like to stall easily. This is true with Motocross models but the enduro spec bikes have a lot more rotating mass with the starter gear assembly and the cam changes and less open exhaust make them flame out much less. With a powerbomb header and a few mods the 450 enduros are a tractor and quite hard to stall out.
Its funny watching this today, I have 2021 yz 450 f and they are totally like light years ahead from just a few years ago. Its amazing how far these bikes have come.
Awesome review Kyle, my buddy rides a yz450f and it seems to be a pretty awesome bike. He mentions similar likes and dislikes about the bike as he uses it to race as well as single track so I would say your review is spot on. OK, so the reason you should shoot me a shirt..#1 I really enjoy your channel and am always looking forward to the next video. #2 I'm always trolling the bike shops so it would be a great advertising opportunity. And lastly, I'm not proud I'll appeal for you pitty as for now I'm wrestling a 300 lb DR350. so an awesome light sleek DBC t shirt will make me feel lighter...lol Thanks for you videos, as always a great job.
Really like your channel! I had a YZ450F setup for desert racing and preferred it over my 300xcw, it hooked up in the loose stuff instead of spinning the wheel and the gyro effect of the motor made it stable at high speed and over sand whoops. The new YZ450FX could be the best of both worlds!
i just picked up a 2014 YZ450f, the red and white one. I have to say that you are spot on with feeling like it wants to go straight. Once the revs are even slightly above idle, it takes some extra input to get the initial lean happening. Good tip about the starting it in neutral. I just asked around about why I only had to kick 2 times when it is cold, and once it is warmed up it takes 4-5 kicks. I realize now that it is probably because it is in gear. I have just ordered a skid plate, IMS 2.9 gal. tank, radiator guards, hand guards, and a kick stand. I am lucky that it came with a spark arrestor, and the suspension had already been revalved for off road riding. I have plans to get it a bit more ergonomically corrected, and a softer seat for the longer rides, because lets face it, the stocker is like a board. It will also have an eighteen inch rear soon. To solve the staling issues the original owner went down one tooth in the front sprocket. That makes this thing an arm puller for sure. I will also be picking up a GYTR power tuner to make a more woods friendly power delivery. I think if money were no object, one could add the items from the 2016 YZ450X to make this an electric start bike. I already wish i could find a cheap aftermarket way to install one. Thanks for the review, and validation that i think I made a good choice at a better price point than some other options.
Great Review! Pleasantly surprised when you actually found out how great the bike was in deep whoops, I would have never thought of that. Can't wait to see what bike is up next, keep up the great work!
i agree 100% on the displacment i ride a 200 2 stroke and going through the tight stuff i can leave the big bore bikes standing still. love the channel between you guys and those crosstraining australian thats all i watch on here keep it up
I have brand new yz450f 09 after full rebuild, stock sporkets, radiator guard, and I am use it only for trails. I have good skills, and I am only 62kg. And you know what? Yes you right, may be I dream about lighter 2stroke with electric starter, but even if I have 2t like this, I want to keep drive both , and don't sell my yz, it's amazing bike.
I absolutely love yamaha dirtbikes I myself have one a 2003 YZ450F the bike runs great and sounds great I have no trouble in technical stuff because the bike is higher geared for tracks. although my 2003 is a 4 speed it still puts oit speed and has a lot of power. keep up the great videos kyle I really enjoy them ride good and ride safe out there.
As always great vid, I got turned on to your stuff when you did the two stroke four stroke thing. Up until now I have always had two stroke of road bikes so your vids helped me put into perspective what moving to a four stroke would be like. So now I have a Husqvarna FE450 it's a great bike. It would be cool to know how you got on with the Stillwell suspension you have on you 300.
great video kyle!! ive been looking to buy motorcycle and i really enjoy your review's i tried to look to see if you had any review on the beta 300rr everyone is saying that its great bike so if you have time to review that bike would be great thank you and keep up the good work!
I use my 2019 YZ450FX for all around trail riding and desert racing. I like being able to use third gear from 0-50mph. It is fantastic for fast desert riding, I do not like it as much in tight, rocky stuff.
2016 Dirt Bike of the year from two different reputable dirt magazines for SX/MX. Yes even over the KTM and the Kawi. Agreed that it is maybe not the best for off roading though. Many other bikes that might do better. Would love to see you gain access to the new YZ450FX. Would love to here your thoughts as it basically answers all your downsides to this bike with the exception of the fuel tank. Only downside I hear is weight. Did you use the Yamaha GTYR Tuner? Can tune it to give it different traits that might be better suited for the trail. The new YZ450Fs have quick connects to get to the air box so you no longer need tools.
+mobgma I'd like to test out the YZ450FX. The only issue is that I have to buy all the bikes I review at this point. No one is loaning them to me, or giving me bikes. That makes it painfully slow to get new stuff to test.
+Cogerino86 haha yeah. I hated when you would kill it in a tricky situation and forget to put it in neutral and kick it for minutes before you realized it was still in gear.
+Dirt Bike Channel On Instagram you get many followers by uploading a few nice pics a month. The only important thing is to add tons of hashtags to your photos.
Another A++ on the review, I really like what you mentioned about the potential of the bike compared to the potential of the rider. Thats one thing thats always bugged me about every "shootout" article in every motorcycle magazine. They only tell us what pro riders think about the bike when pushed to the limit and not what joe blow thinks of it at an every day mans kinda pace. Hope you get to hop on a YZ250X soon, you just might think that blue is the new orange. ; b p.s. just an fyi on the video edit (a subject I know little to nothing about) but the DBC sprocket covers up the info you have pop up in the lower left corner.
Completely agree with the review - in fact just sold my YZ450f for a KTM 300xc and some of your reviews provided fuel to fire that change. (Have any kids shirts? My 4yo boy would love matching shirts - he is running around the house now pretending to be on a 450 four stroke...)
told you ..... :) :) :) Fi is GREAT !!! and if you think about auto clutch - GO FOR IT ! it's the best change i've done in my 2015 KX450! also softened/revalved the suspension, changed to slower gear ratio, put on an MX71Dunlop (110/90-19 ,didn't even go to 18" tire) rear,it's the narrowest i found,and great on rocks/hard. ) the bike is great for me now . the auto clutch changed everything for me,i'm a tall heavy 230lb. guy,not a good rider,and do only enduro and rocky gnarly single tracks. so i didn't mind sacrificing the top speed.you're right about the power ; it's too much. always. but 2strokes 250/300 are also. so if i get along,everyone can . i enjoy the great chassis and the confidence on the bike - which i never got on enduro bikes.but maybe it's just me,being tall/heavy
I agree almost unanimously. I bought my 14 for supermoto and it's the meanest nastiest motor I've ever ridden. As for the air box lid-I've never had any trouble getting mine to line up. Is the air filter cage fully seated into the throttle body? I also went onto Amazon and bought some 1/4 turn fasteners instead of buying the gytr kit. Works, but not as polished as the Yamaha kit. And being hard to start-are you using the hot start knob? mine is impossible to start warm/hot without it, but fires right up with it pulled out. It always takes 3 kicks to start cold- seems like it's charging the injection system or something. I've ridden mine once off-road before fitting slicks and that footage at 1:30 looks suicidal on this bike. Mine hurt me trying to do medium difficulty hill climbs. Couldn't move my clutch fingers for several minutes.
Really good review . i have put this up on our local riders page , tells the guys who think a mx bike will do good in the tight bush that we ride in ,, there is not much open stuff like yours , 2 stroke country we have, same deal with the starting Even with the Fi Wr450f just that little bit of clutch grab that its hard to start in gear
Have you ever ridden a steel framed dirt bike? How's it compared to an aluminum frame dirtbike? I love your channel! I use to ride and own an old enduro 87 kdx200. I now ride a ktm powered 525 atv. I might be getting a 2006 yz450f! Keep up the good work on the channel! I would love to see more reviews or test rides of different brands!
All the KTMs I ride are steel frames. I'm not sure I'm a good enough rider to differentiate it since they will also have different suspension. That makes a bigger difference than the frame IMO.
I have a 2016 yz450f and mainly use it for mx riding but do the odd trail ride on it. I was just wondering what you were running your clickers at? Ps great channel too. Keep up the great vids!
In my opinion, I think the stock bars on the yz are very low making harder to handle in the woods. I ride single track a ton and on my bike I run with woods high bars and found it to be a lot easier to handle. It is all about personal preference. I love the power and "snappieness# of the 450 in the woods.
I had a ltz400 for I think my uncle got it like 6 years ago we always rode it and never changed the oil or air filter or did any maintenance we would just clean it and we rode it hard and that thing ran like it was brand new oh yeah the only thing we did was but a aftermarket exhaust... I think I should get a free shirt because I subscribed and I watch your videos😂
awesome bike, I had a rekluse clutch on my yz250f and i hated it. you would go up a hillclimb and if you stop the bike will go "out of gear" and run down the hill also, you can't use your gears as a break in the corners ext.
+Nathan Oberholzer Very good input. I'm a bit of a purist, so I don't want to install one on my bikes. I'm going to have to try one some day, but I hope to try it on someone else's bike :)
hey man love the video i have a crf 450 and 250 fourstroke and love them both but my question to you is you say the 450 feels hard the turn and not saying there not but my 250 just feels more rough and hard to turn fast but have you had the same issue or accurence
+maniac & CO I look for one that's been taken care of. I look for how much wear there is on the side of the motor where your boots rub. I look for bent parts. I look at the frame under the bike for damage. I look for signs of oil on the outside of the motor. I look at the seals on the suspension. Some of those things can give you an idea of how it's been treated. I also look for a bike that was owned by an "older" person. Someone who is capable of taking care of a bike properly.
Awesome video. I have one question for you. What do you think about the yamaha yz 250 2 stroke. Is it good for off road and enduro. I am a beginner so witch bike do you recommend for me.
+enduro rider The YX250 is a great bike. They can make good enduro bikes with a few mods. They are fairly cheap on the used market to. If it's your first bike, though I might look for something with a little less power. Depends on how much you weigh though and how fit (strong) you are.
On the whole power topic: While I agree that the less powerful bikes definitely give me more confidence and ultimately, more speed in the tighter stuff, I have found situations where I have even wanted more power from my hopped up CR480, or my buddy's KX500. I'm specifically talking about dune riding and open desert riding - even with a paddle tire or fresh knobbie. I feel like I'd need 100+ horsepower in the sand before I ever lost my confidence to pin it up a giant dune. I think it just depends on the riding location. I do just enough dune riding that I'm totally happy with having too much power for other locations.
Great Review! If you change the gearing a little on that bike and maybe add some radiator braces that bike would work much better on the trails. Awesome videos I think I've seen them all! Send me a shirt and keep the good videos coming!
I'm a technician at a dealer and I came across a YZ450F that I got for next to nothing. It was my last choice for my first trail bike, but got it cheap. I'm looking to mellow it out for mountain trails. Have you had any rides with a flywheel weight?
+Zack Pack (zakkpakk) A lot of dudes have said I suck at riding 4 strokes :) Now I don't know what to think. Good thing I don't take any of this too seriously, right?
Someday if you get around to it... I know I'm not the only one when I consider a used 2006 or newer YZ250 as a cheaper alternative to a KTM 300. They show up on KSL in decent condition for less than $3,000 pretty frequently. Eddie sanders racing even makes big bore kits fir them up to 350cc's if you want to make up for the power difference. I'd love to see a review comparison between the KTM and a used YZ. Is the YZ a good cheaper alternative? How good in comparison?
+EreksonJ The YZ is one of the best 2 strokes made. To be honest if we have talked about picking up a yz250 to see how it stacks up. I really think 2006 and later used yz250's are the all around best bang for your buck. Its a bike that pretty much will do well everywhere.
No Kyle I don't think it was too long I would rather watch a balanced review on something so you can make up you own mind than some guy just biggin up his bike, and the production is always quality on your videos so it didn't seem like 20 minutes. ....maybe my answer was too long 😂
+Dirt Bike Channel You could always add the quick release/finger release hardware to make it easy. One like this... www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/988/-/993959/Yamaha-Quick-Release-Air-Box-Hardware-Kit?v=11943
I'm 210, 6'2. Grew up riding tracks on 2 strokes. Left for the service and now it's been a while since I've ridden. I want to get back into it. However; I'm torn. Should I 450 or 250? I always remember riding 125's & were so much funner to ride than 250s. What should a do?!
What do you think about a KTM exc for enduro? Also I'm 5'6 and I weigh 130 pounds. Idk if this bike will be too big or maybe not enough power or something. Just want to hear your input. :)
hey mate, not trying to sound like a prick but the air box doesnt actaully need a 8mm nut driver to take of the shroud because it actaully come stock with pop bolts that dont need any tools to remove. +Dirt Bike Channel
+Dirt Bike Channel shit just researched it and your right! Sorry mate I thought they were all the same because I have the 2016 YZ450F and that's what they have!
How about swapping the SSS forks onto the 300 XC? KTMTalk has plenty good info on the swap, plus it would be a great guid for the rest of us considering the swap as well 👍🏻 As for the free T-Shirt, you need a representative in Africa, I'm your guy!
Any chance of a review on the beta rs 500 or ktm exc500? I'm looking for a street legal dirt bike that I can do light camping trips on. I'm not into racing. I'm just a slow trail rider
So I just bought a 2002 YZ250F and watching this video was wondering, for easy trails where I probably won't go slower than 10 or 15, do you think I made an okay with this bike? I've just been reading about how it's a terrible decision to get an MX bike for trail riding, after I bought the bike of course. Thanks much.
MX bikes are not great for trail riding unless you make some modifications. I'd look at lowering the gearing a bit and certainly softening the suspension. That will get you started.
Have you had a chance to try out the new styled 2016 ktm sx450? I know the supercross guys don't run stock bikes but Ryan and Marvin said the 2016 have went through alot of changes and they really like them.
I said that like I know them personally which I don't but I read an article where they said some of the 2016 450sx stock bike changes were made to suit more of dungey ' s preferences. KTM did make some big changes and that's why I was interested in your opinion on those if you've tried it out yet.
and when it come to cornering on it betthing to do is but about quater throttel on in 2nd or 3rd gear and push the tale out around corners that how i found it the best to corner quickl on my yz450f
+Corey Hammond I'm partial to the 300 because I think it's the most versatile bike out there. The WR450 would be good to. If you are going to be riding it on the road (pavement), go for the WR. If you will stick to the bush, I'd look hard at the 300.
+RetroPG I have a great bike for what I want to do. It's the KTM 300 XC. This bike (YZ450F) was ONLY for review purposes that I stated in the video. It's to show that it's the WRONG bike for trail riding. Does that make sense?
Conclusion: We need "18 rear, autoclutch, adjust suspension, bash plate and we have solid off road/enduro 4 stroke? I have '03 yz450f and drive only enduro, but I'm in process of buying '14 yz450 :P
+ProCro88 Those would all be helpful, for sure. I still don't think it would be the best option for an off road bike, but it would be much better than in the stock form.
+Dirt Bike Channel I have chance to trade in my mint '03 for '14 and that's only reason I'm staying on four stroke. In the future I see myself on yz250x :p
A decent review of a Husqvarna fe501 would be good, all I see are ruined ones......aka super moto!. Nice honest review of the 450 though, makes a nice change for youtube.
I have the 016 ktm 500 and i love the power , i want more power from it ,starting to feel soft after 1500klm on the factory tune my ktm 530 had more topend power more snap with carbi over this F injection ,,,,so i will have this one remaped and 3 way switch to switch between maps ,,
I would suggest a few simple low cost things that I found totally transformed my 15 350 xcf-w into a different animal and can be done to your bike.turn up your tps so it runs richer,these bikes are notorious for being set too lean from the factory for several reasons.get the big grunt manifold,snap air insert and high flow end cap from best dual sportbikes.this increases airflow and vortex delivery to compliment richer fuel setting.And on the post combustion side manifold and end cap are essentially equivelent to a high dollar fmf or pro circuit set up at a fraction of cost.Should be way more effective than a mapping switch,although I never did that to the 350 for actual comparison to be honest.Definitely worth consideration IMO.Best of luck.
I don’t ride the 450 for HP... I ride it for the torque. I’ll never touch redline.
I hear that lol 😆 It has a endless supply. My 450 is redickulas
you are the best dirtbike reviewer !
+Dany Barceloux Hardly warranted, but I do appreciate the compliment.
+Dirt Bike Channel you should review more brands other then KTM and Yamaha
Based on the high pace of parts of the video, and the relatively low popularity of 4K computer screens, I think moving to 60fps would be a better alternative.
Funny you should mention that because I do use 60fps on the gopro footage. By recording and uploading the rest of these videos in 4K (when possible).... UA-cam gives me better bit rates when it scales the video footage down to 1080 for your screen :) Not my first rodeo :)
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Great review! That new tank and airbox setup is pretty wonky. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the WR 450f. It seems like it would solve almost all the problems you mentioned with this bike.
+eveRide ADV WR450f is a fantastic bike. It's heavier and slower than the yz but it will still haul the mail. In my opinion its a great trail bike but not a race bike. Its really reliable and still has the great front forks you get with Yamaha's. You also get E start which is really nice for single track.
+eveRide ADV I echo's Sam's comment here.
+eveRide ADV Consider the YZ450FX.
Great vid, I'm a 4-stroke and a Yamaha guy...and this video was perfect. I was happy to watch this knowing that you weren't biased against either side. It's just as you said, it's a motocross bike...not an enduro...it's set up perfectly for a track, but not so much for the trails
I’ve trailriding 2 strokes my whole life ,decided to pick up a 2016 yz450f for a steal was previously ran as an ama supercross bike and the 15 minutes I got to ride it ( since it’s cold as hell and the grounds frozen ) was just crazy , never ridden anything this big and was not expecting the power , I’m 300 lbs 6’3 and this thing pulls the wheel in every gear . Deffinately a handful and will hopefully get use to it coming spring and summer monthes , can’t wait
"You just roll on the power and it will just ga ga ga ga ga" LOL
Great review bro!
+Mark S (Hyperactive) It's that how it is? :)
Love your reviews, man. I just switched to two stroke from a 2012 WR450 that was pretty well modded. Went to a YZ250X. The WR is a beast and has a super fast motor, but that X is a masterpiece in anything technical compared to it. I keep checking out your channel to see if you get to review one. It's definitely the most well rounded bike I've ever had. Keep reviewing. I've bought quite a few products you've reviewed because of your detail.
+Ryan Babin We are eager to get our hands on a YZ250x!
+Ryan Babin So glad to hear that you are liking the YZ250X. I hope to get some time on one this year.
Where in Utah are you? Your area looks pretty good. Wouldn't mind riding it.
MX bike owner here. All I do is trail riding. Haven't been to a track....ever. Love my crf450r. Find it difficult in tight trails especially here in Florida where it's all sugar sand. Hard on the clutch especially since I have to play with it YET keep the power so the sugar sand doesn't eat me alive. Literally. The sand is deep and wants to swallow you whole in lower speeds. Ocala National forest seems to be the best place to open up a MX bike other than a track. Nice wide trails, long straights and lots of berms. Nothing tight. Very reminiscent of a track. Oh and about your comment in the video about needing that much power. I agree with you. The average MX rider doesn't need that much power let alone the average off road rider. Do we like it? Absolutely. I don't need the power to be fast but I sure do enjoy it. Great review.
+Belicose777 Thanks for the input.
Good review. I don't want people to be mislead on how 450 four stokes like to stall easily. This is true with Motocross models but the enduro spec bikes have a lot more rotating mass with the starter gear assembly and the cam changes and less open exhaust make them flame out much less. With a powerbomb header and a few mods the 450 enduros are a tractor and quite hard to stall out.
+EnduroRider NW This is true. These MX bikes are hard to keep running in the tricky stuff, but the WRs are much better in that regard.
Its funny watching this today, I have 2021 yz 450 f and they are totally like light years ahead from just a few years ago. Its amazing how far these bikes have come.
Is the 21 better and more power?
Awesome review Kyle,
my buddy rides a yz450f and it seems to be a pretty awesome bike. He mentions similar likes and dislikes about the bike as he uses it to race as well as single track so I would say your review is spot on. OK, so the reason you should shoot me a shirt..#1 I really enjoy your channel and am always looking forward to the next video.
#2 I'm always trolling the bike shops so it would be a great advertising opportunity.
And lastly, I'm not proud I'll appeal for you pitty as for now I'm wrestling a 300 lb DR350. so an awesome light sleek DBC t shirt will make me feel lighter...lol
Thanks for you videos, as always a great job.
Really like your channel! I had a YZ450F setup for desert racing and preferred it over my 300xcw, it hooked up in the loose stuff instead of spinning the wheel and the gyro effect of the motor made it stable at high speed and over sand whoops. The new YZ450FX could be the best of both worlds!
i just picked up a 2014 YZ450f, the red and white one. I have to say that you are spot on with feeling like it wants to go straight. Once the revs are even slightly above idle, it takes some extra input to get the initial lean happening. Good tip about the starting it in neutral. I just asked around about why I only had to kick 2 times when it is cold, and once it is warmed up it takes 4-5 kicks. I realize now that it is probably because it is in gear. I have just ordered a skid plate, IMS 2.9 gal. tank, radiator guards, hand guards, and a kick stand. I am lucky that it came with a spark arrestor, and the suspension had already been revalved for off road riding. I have plans to get it a bit more ergonomically corrected, and a softer seat for the longer rides, because lets face it, the stocker is like a board. It will also have an eighteen inch rear soon. To solve the staling issues the original owner went down one tooth in the front sprocket. That makes this thing an arm puller for sure. I will also be picking up a GYTR power tuner to make a more woods friendly power delivery. I think if money were no object, one could add the items from the 2016 YZ450X to make this an electric start bike. I already wish i could find a cheap aftermarket way to install one. Thanks for the review, and validation that i think I made a good choice at a better price point than some other options.
+Stan Sabick Sounds like you are happy with your bike and that is the main thing. I'm glad that you love it. It's a solid bike for sure.
Road one of these last week. With small rooms, it was like riding a 2 stroke.
Nailed it, dude! Yes to everything you said! :)
+Merlin Maertz Thanks Merlin.
Great Review! Pleasantly surprised when you actually found out how great the bike was in deep whoops, I would have never thought of that. Can't wait to see what bike is up next, keep up the great work!
+Alex Rinn Yes, the most fun I had on the bike was in the sand whoops. It was great out there.
You must trust that Yamaha pounding out those whoops right next to the bobwire fence! I like your honest hands on reviews. Keep up the awesome work!
+Bryan Roberts Yeah, it inspired a lot of confidence out there.
Nice job, that probably took forever to make that video but you did a really good job! What's the next bike you will review?
+Twostrokealec Thank you. I'm not sure. Need to sell the 450 to make room for another bike.
i agree 100% on the displacment i ride a 200 2 stroke and going through the tight stuff i can leave the big bore bikes standing still. love the channel between you guys and those crosstraining australian thats all i watch on here keep it up
+Matt Smith Thanks Matt. I watch the cross training guy from Australia too.
I have brand new yz450f 09 after full rebuild, stock sporkets, radiator guard, and I am use it only for trails. I have good skills, and I am only 62kg. And you know what? Yes you right, may be I dream about lighter 2stroke with electric starter, but even if I have 2t like this, I want to keep drive both , and don't sell my yz, it's amazing bike.
you are spot on in your review well done
I absolutely love yamaha dirtbikes I myself have one a 2003 YZ450F the bike runs great and sounds great I have no trouble in technical stuff because the bike is higher geared for tracks. although my 2003 is a 4 speed it still puts oit speed and has a lot of power. keep up the great videos kyle I really enjoy them ride good and ride safe out there.
+Joel Gibbons Thanks Joel.
great work man. the audio and video were good quality and you made some good points.
My 450 scares the poop out of me ... did not like that trail you hit with the wire fence be careful bro . Good video love it
As always great vid, I got turned on to your stuff when you did the two stroke four stroke thing. Up until now I have always had two stroke of road bikes so your vids helped me put into perspective what moving to a four stroke would be like. So now I have a Husqvarna FE450 it's a great bike. It would be cool to know how you got on with the Stillwell suspension you have on you 300.
+stinky982 Send me an email kyle@dirtbikechannel.com and I'll let you know my thoughts.
great video kyle!! ive been looking to buy motorcycle and i really enjoy your review's i tried to look to see if you had any review on the beta 300rr everyone is saying that its great bike so if you have time to review that bike would be great thank you and keep up the good work!
+Kasim Bajrami I would like to ride/review one this year. We'll see if we can make that happen. I've heard nothing but good about the Beta bikes.
I use my 2019 YZ450FX for all around trail riding and desert racing. I like being able to use third gear from 0-50mph. It is fantastic for fast desert riding, I do not like it as much in tight, rocky stuff.
2016 Dirt Bike of the year from two different reputable dirt magazines for SX/MX. Yes even over the KTM and the Kawi. Agreed that it is maybe not the best for off roading though. Many other bikes that might do better. Would love to see you gain access to the new YZ450FX. Would love to here your thoughts as it basically answers all your downsides to this bike with the exception of the fuel tank. Only downside I hear is weight. Did you use the Yamaha GTYR Tuner? Can tune it to give it different traits that might be better suited for the trail. The new YZ450Fs have quick connects to get to the air box so you no longer need tools.
+mobgma I'd like to test out the YZ450FX. The only issue is that I have to buy all the bikes I review at this point. No one is loaning them to me, or giving me bikes. That makes it painfully slow to get new stuff to test.
everything you have said regarding electric start/neutral....my rmx450 drove me crazy........bought a 300 exc....wish I bought this years ago!
+Cogerino86 haha yeah. I hated when you would kill it in a tricky situation and forget to put it in neutral and kick it for minutes before you realized it was still in gear.
+Cogerino86 yes, the 300's are something special.
interesting guy very down to earth that's why i stay and watch
+rcisourmiddlename Thanks for your support!
You need more subs man! I love your videos and they look professionally produced, no lie. Good stuff!
+Lucas Boyden Make sure to share with everyone. We are growing, slowly....
+Dirt Bike Channel On Instagram you get many followers by uploading a few nice pics a month. The only important thing is to add tons of hashtags to your photos.
Put the bike in gear and lift up on the stand by the rear wheel directly bind the bike. I find it easier on your back too.
You should try and get your hands on a yz 250x i would love to see a video on that bike
+Double O Joe I'm accepting donations over at dirtbikechannel.com :)
+Dirt Bike Channel once i get my new bike and have some spare change i will be sure to leave a donation lol
That 450 is a monster. Not for the timid.
Another A++ on the review, I really like what you mentioned about the potential of the bike compared to the potential of the rider. Thats one thing thats always bugged me about every "shootout" article in every motorcycle magazine. They only tell us what pro riders think about the bike when pushed to the limit and not what joe blow thinks of it at an every day mans kinda pace. Hope you get to hop on a YZ250X soon, you just might think that blue is the new orange. ; b
p.s. just an fyi on the video edit (a subject I know little to nothing about) but the DBC sprocket covers up the info you have pop up in the lower left corner.
+TILTROD66 Thanks for the feedback. You nailed what I'm trying to offer. Real world reviews from the common man, not a pro rider.
Completely agree with the review - in fact just sold my YZ450f for a KTM 300xc and some of your reviews provided fuel to fire that change. (Have any kids shirts? My 4yo boy would love matching shirts - he is running around the house now pretending to be on a 450 four stroke...)
+MORK I don't have any kids shirts :( Glad to hear that you are starting him out young though!
told you ..... :) :) :) Fi is GREAT !!! and if you think about auto clutch - GO FOR IT ! it's the best change i've done in my 2015 KX450! also softened/revalved the suspension, changed to slower gear ratio, put on an MX71Dunlop (110/90-19 ,didn't even go to 18" tire) rear,it's the narrowest i found,and great on rocks/hard. ) the bike is great for me now . the auto clutch changed everything for me,i'm a tall heavy 230lb. guy,not a good rider,and do only enduro and rocky gnarly single tracks. so i didn't mind sacrificing the top speed.you're right about the power ; it's too much. always. but 2strokes 250/300 are also. so if i get along,everyone can . i enjoy the great chassis and the confidence on the bike - which i never got on enduro bikes.but maybe it's just me,being tall/heavy
I agree almost unanimously. I bought my 14 for supermoto and it's the meanest nastiest motor I've ever ridden.
As for the air box lid-I've never had any trouble getting mine to line up. Is the air filter cage fully seated into the throttle body? I also went onto Amazon and bought some 1/4 turn fasteners instead of buying the gytr kit. Works, but not as polished as the Yamaha kit.
And being hard to start-are you using the hot start knob? mine is impossible to start warm/hot without it, but fires right up with it pulled out. It always takes 3 kicks to start cold- seems like it's charging the injection system or something.
I've ridden mine once off-road before fitting slicks and that footage at 1:30 looks suicidal on this bike. Mine hurt me trying to do medium difficulty hill climbs. Couldn't move my clutch fingers for several minutes.
Time to trade/sell the YZ for and YZ-X model. Nice review!
+John Kokocinski You read my mind.
Great video and even better scenery.
+Hulley29 Thanks Hulley29
Im 13 and i plan to get a 2007 honda 450x im experienced and pretty tall is this a good or a bad idea? btw love your videos
Really good review . i have put this up on our local riders page , tells the guys who think a mx bike will do good in the tight bush that we ride in ,, there is not much open stuff like yours , 2 stroke country we have, same deal with the starting Even with the Fi Wr450f just that little bit of clutch grab that its hard to start in gear
+Ryan s Thanks for sharing the video with your group.
Have you ever ridden a steel framed dirt bike? How's it compared to an aluminum frame dirtbike? I love your channel! I use to ride and own an old enduro 87 kdx200. I now ride a ktm powered 525 atv. I might be getting a 2006 yz450f! Keep up the good work on the channel! I would love to see more reviews or test rides of different brands!
All the KTMs I ride are steel frames. I'm not sure I'm a good enough rider to differentiate it since they will also have different suspension. That makes a bigger difference than the frame IMO.
I have a 2016 yz450f and mainly use it for mx riding but do the odd trail ride on it. I was just wondering what you were running your clickers at? Ps great channel too. Keep up the great vids!
I have found the softer you go with these forks for off road riding, the better they seem to do (for me).
Yz450f is my favourite bike
+Davin Drachenberg (SkolpisFilmsMC) It is very good for certain things. Solid bike.
Yea I'm a racer so I love it for that.
In my opinion, I think the stock bars on the yz are very low making harder to handle in the woods. I ride single track a ton and on my bike I run with woods high bars and found it to be a lot easier to handle. It is all about personal preference. I love the power and "snappieness# of the 450 in the woods.
I have to say u do a very good job on your videos
+Crazylone Wolves Thank you.
For your next review I'd like to see you try the new YZ250Fx or just the yz250x
+tdog01250 I would like to try both of them. I'm accepting donations :)
I had a ltz400 for I think my uncle got it like 6 years ago we always rode it and never changed the oil or air filter or did any maintenance we would just clean it and we rode it hard and that thing ran like it was brand new oh yeah the only thing we did was but a aftermarket exhaust...
I think I should get a free shirt because I subscribed and I watch your videos😂
I recomend the arc front brake and clutch they are very high quality
I love your videos. I want to start one but I don't have a gopro. me and my friend went out and that should be up soon.
Good vid relaxed non technical and enjoyable to watch 👍
awesome bike, I had a rekluse clutch on my yz250f and i hated it. you would go up a hillclimb and if you stop the bike will go "out of gear" and run down the hill also, you can't use your gears as a break in the corners ext.
+Nathan Oberholzer Very good input. I'm a bit of a purist, so I don't want to install one on my bikes. I'm going to have to try one some day, but I hope to try it on someone else's bike :)
hey man love the video i have a crf 450 and 250 fourstroke and love them both but my question to you is you say the 450 feels hard the turn and not saying there not but my 250 just feels more rough and hard to turn fast but have you had the same issue or accurence
Nice video!!! keep up the good work. but i had another question. what do you need to look for if you are buying a second-handed 4-stroke dirtbike?
+maniac & CO I look for one that's been taken care of. I look for how much wear there is on the side of the motor where your boots rub. I look for bent parts. I look at the frame under the bike for damage. I look for signs of oil on the outside of the motor. I look at the seals on the suspension. Some of those things can give you an idea of how it's been treated. I also look for a bike that was owned by an "older" person. Someone who is capable of taking care of a bike properly.
thx for the advice . you´re always in the comments i love it !!!!
Jepp,you are doin a damn good job!! Kyle, show us some work with the 450 on the Mx track.
+Tomas Jakan Jakobsson I don't ride tracks, so it would be a very short video.
Awesome video. I have one question for you. What do you think about the yamaha yz 250 2 stroke. Is it good for off road and enduro. I am a beginner so witch bike do you recommend for me.
+enduro rider The YX250 is a great bike. They can make good enduro bikes with a few mods. They are fairly cheap on the used market to. If it's your first bike, though I might look for something with a little less power. Depends on how much you weigh though and how fit (strong) you are.
On the whole power topic: While I agree that the less powerful bikes definitely give me more confidence and ultimately, more speed in the tighter stuff, I have found situations where I have even wanted more power from my hopped up CR480, or my buddy's KX500. I'm specifically talking about dune riding and open desert riding - even with a paddle tire or fresh knobbie. I feel like I'd need 100+ horsepower in the sand before I ever lost my confidence to pin it up a giant dune.
I think it just depends on the riding location. I do just enough dune riding that I'm totally happy with having too much power for other locations.
+EreksonJ yeah the sand really does suck your power!! I once rode an ATK 500 at the dunes and it was a blast but scary at the same time.
the boy and I have a kdx200 and a 450f. this is right on the money. is like to hear the 450 down.
the 450 has a 2 in lowering kit.
Great Review! If you change the gearing a little on that bike and maybe add some radiator braces that bike would work much better on the trails. Awesome videos I think I've seen them all! Send me a shirt and keep the good videos coming!
+RMKJ Thanks for your support.
I'm a technician at a dealer and I came across a YZ450F that I got for next to nothing. It was my last choice for my first trail bike, but got it cheap. I'm looking to mellow it out for mountain trails. Have you had any rides with a flywheel weight?
Can you set one of these up for trail riding?
I love your videos dude and you are a great rider too!
+Zack Pack (zakkpakk) A lot of dudes have said I suck at riding 4 strokes :) Now I don't know what to think. Good thing I don't take any of this too seriously, right?
Dirt Bike Channel Right! Don't you are an awesome rider, why would people think you aren't???
Someday if you get around to it... I know I'm not the only one when I consider a used 2006 or newer YZ250 as a cheaper alternative to a KTM 300. They show up on KSL in decent condition for less than $3,000 pretty frequently. Eddie sanders racing even makes big bore kits fir them up to 350cc's if you want to make up for the power difference. I'd love to see a review comparison between the KTM and a used YZ. Is the YZ a good cheaper alternative? How good in comparison?
+EreksonJ The YZ is one of the best 2 strokes made. To be honest if we have talked about picking up a yz250 to see how it stacks up. I really think 2006 and later used yz250's are the all around best bang for your buck. Its a bike that pretty much will do well everywhere.
Great review and high quality video just wondering what your opinion of a yz250f is for more wet/open riding
A carbureted one
+Caleb Newton You know, I haven't ridden the 250F model yet. I'll have to get to one of those someday.
+Dirt Bike Channel yeah hear about the 250fx?
need review on 450 fx
Could you do a review of how your 300 xc runs in the big sand dunes?
You should do a video on your top 10 bikes of all time
I'm buying one of these on Saturday and Putting. smaller rooms.
Another awesome review 👍totally dig your channel
+Keith Swales How did you feel about the length? Too long? I can talk for hours...
+Dirt Bike Channel Not too long at all.
No Kyle I don't think it was too long I would rather watch a balanced review on something so you can make up you own mind than some guy just biggin up his bike, and the production is always quality on your videos so it didn't seem like 20 minutes. ....maybe my answer was too long 😂
Airbox seems dope for an enduro bike as it'd be a lot harder to drown it. But on an MX bike it seems odd.
+Enduro NE Yeah, it makes it hard to clean IMO.
+Dirt Bike Channel Definitely more of a hassle to clean but that design on an enduro would be cool.
+Dirt Bike Channel
You could always add the quick release/finger release hardware to make it easy. One like this...
www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/988/-/993959/Yamaha-Quick-Release-Air-Box-Hardware-Kit?v=11943
Awesome video! What's your opinion on beta bikes ?
+Everything Enduro I would love to try one this year. We'll see how that goes.
I am a recent Beta convert. Awesome bikes that are cheaper than the ktm s and in my opinion superior.
I'm 210, 6'2. Grew up riding tracks on 2 strokes. Left for the service and now it's been a while since I've ridden. I want to get back into it. However; I'm torn. Should I 450 or 250? I always remember riding 125's & were so much funner to ride than 250s. What should a do?!
To be honest, I'd go with a 250 or 300 2 stroke if I were you.
What do you think about a KTM exc for enduro? Also I'm 5'6 and I weigh 130 pounds. Idk if this bike will be too big or maybe not enough power or something. Just want to hear your input. :)
+hayden Marker Listen, Im 5ft 7 in. 135 lbs...I Ride a ktm 350xcf-w..I can barely reach the ground at times...But you can do it!
U should review a crf230f or ttr230. Very underrated dirt bikes
Great Video!!! like always!
hey mate, not trying to sound like a prick but the air box doesnt actaully need a 8mm nut driver to take of the shroud because it actaully come stock with pop bolts that dont need any tools to remove. +Dirt Bike Channel
Not in 2014, they didn't. My 2015 has to the pop bolts, but the 2014 didn't.
+Dirt Bike Channel shit just researched it and your right! Sorry mate I thought they were all the same because I have the 2016 YZ450F and that's what they have!
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How about swapping the SSS forks onto the 300 XC? KTMTalk has plenty good info on the swap, plus it would be a great guid for the rest of us considering the swap as well 👍🏻
As for the free T-Shirt, you need a representative in Africa, I'm your guy!
+Robert Moore Then I wouldn't be able to sell this bike. I need to move it to make room for something else. Cool idea though.
Any chance of a review on the beta rs 500 or ktm exc500? I'm looking for a street legal dirt bike that I can do light camping trips on. I'm not into racing. I'm just a slow trail rider
great video i just subed! im going to be getting a 2003 version of this bike
Hey kile How much did you pay for that bike and what year is it ?
Awesome video
So I just bought a 2002 YZ250F and watching this video was wondering, for easy trails where I probably won't go slower than 10 or 15, do you think I made an okay with this bike? I've just been reading about how it's a terrible decision to get an MX bike for trail riding, after I bought the bike of course. Thanks much.
MX bikes are not great for trail riding unless you make some modifications. I'd look at lowering the gearing a bit and certainly softening the suspension. That will get you started.
Have you had a chance to try out the new styled 2016 ktm sx450? I know the supercross guys don't run stock bikes but Ryan and Marvin said the 2016 have went through alot of changes and they really like them.
I said that like I know them personally which I don't but I read an article where they said some of the 2016 450sx stock bike changes were made to suit more of dungey ' s preferences. KTM did make some big changes and that's why I was interested in your opinion on those if you've tried it out yet.
+Bryan Roberts I have not been on one yet.
change your sprockets then and you can run tighter spots dude... lol
Hey man I watched your tool video, was wondering where you bought your wrenches and torque wrench? Thanks!
+Kristian Lunsford I bought those online craftsman.com for most of the stuff.
+Dirt Bike Channel thanks!
i have a yz450 f efi fucking amazing bike, i had a kx250f and the 450 is easier to controll than the 250
and when it come to cornering on it betthing to do is but about quater throttel on in 2nd or 3rd gear and push the tale out around corners that how i found it the best to corner quickl on my yz450f
Your channel is awesome hint for us ...tnx alot
I've got no great reason you should send me the free shirt other than I watched the whole video and I want one.
I come from a CRF230 and i cant decide which bike to get. A WR450F or KTM 300 EXC/XC-W. i do a lot of bush riding. what do you think?
+Corey Hammond I'm partial to the 300 because I think it's the most versatile bike out there. The WR450 would be good to. If you are going to be riding it on the road (pavement), go for the WR. If you will stick to the bush, I'd look hard at the 300.
Question: Why didn't you get a WR450? Seems to me that would've been more suitable for the bush if you wanted a Yamaha.
+RetroPG I have a great bike for what I want to do. It's the KTM 300 XC. This bike (YZ450F) was ONLY for review purposes that I stated in the video. It's to show that it's the WRONG bike for trail riding. Does that make sense?
+Dirt Bike Channel yeah.. My bad I thought it was common sense that this was a MX bike, and not really meant for enduro
Great review
Great vid bro.
+Gowen Getter Thanks Bro.
Conclusion:
We need "18 rear, autoclutch, adjust suspension, bash plate and we have solid off road/enduro 4 stroke? I have '03 yz450f and drive only enduro, but I'm in process of buying '14 yz450 :P
+ProCro88 Those would all be helpful, for sure. I still don't think it would be the best option for an off road bike, but it would be much better than in the stock form.
+Dirt Bike Channel I have chance to trade in my mint '03 for '14 and that's only reason I'm staying on four stroke. In the future I see myself on yz250x :p
Dirt Bike Channel 51t and smooth linear map makes all the difference. Almost to low on gearing and super easy to keep running real slow and low
A decent review of a Husqvarna fe501 would be good, all I see are ruined ones......aka super moto!.
Nice honest review of the 450 though, makes a nice change for youtube.
+Brad M I'd first need to get my hands on one.
+Dirt Bike Channel Well I would say you could borrow mine but it's a bit of a long trip for you mate just to make a youtube vid.
that was a great review dam.
+Lucas Badia Thanks Lucas.
I have the 016 ktm 500 and i love the power , i want more power from it ,starting to feel soft after 1500klm on the factory tune my ktm 530 had more topend power more snap with carbi over this F injection ,,,,so i will have this one remaped and 3 way switch to switch between maps ,,
I would suggest a few simple low cost things that I found totally transformed my 15 350 xcf-w into a different animal and can be done to your bike.turn up your tps so it runs richer,these bikes are notorious for being set too lean from the factory for several reasons.get the big grunt manifold,snap air insert and high flow end cap from best dual sportbikes.this increases airflow and vortex delivery to compliment richer fuel setting.And on the post combustion side manifold and end cap are essentially equivelent to a high dollar fmf or pro circuit set up at a fraction of cost.Should be way more effective than a mapping switch,although I never did that to the 350 for actual comparison to be honest.Definitely worth consideration IMO.Best of luck.
Please consider a video with Ktm 450 SXF 2017 ! !
When are u slapping a fmf or yoshimura pipe on that bike!?! 👍👍👌
+david pelkey I'll probably sell it really soon to make room for another bike to test out.
+Dirt Bike Channel Hopefully a YZ250X!