My Unique Journey with Milwaukee PACKOUT Tools Storage
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My Thoughts On the Milwaukee Packout Modular Storage System
Hey guys - I realize PACKOUT isn’t new. The internet is filled with tons of pros sharing their experience with PACKOUT. So why am I making this video?
What I noticed is I had a pretty unique journey when it came to my experience with PACKOUT. A lot of videos and articles online are of pros sharing their PACKOUT setups for the shop or in their vehicles… and while I certainly have those setups too… I’ve also had an interesting time creating a PACKOUT kit setup I can take directly out onto the job site.
I wanted to share this because, frankly, I haven’t seen a ton of people talking about how PACKOUT works for them when they roll it up onto the job site. So, let’s get into it…”
What PACKOUT Brings To the Table
Neither PACKOUT, nor stackable storage is new so what makes it stand out? This article is NOT a tool/product review, it’s about process and organization. Specifically my process.
How I Look At PACKOUT
Remodeling and construction job sites are busy, hectic arenas, with tools and equipment everywhere, contractors many times overlook the “tools that protect the tools” and their need for power tool storage.
I’ve personally run the gamut on tool storage. I started storing my tools in the original boxes they came in, then switched over to using 100% Bosch L-Boxx system, and later started using tool bags because they took up less space on my trailer shelves.
I’ve always believed that modular organizers are designed to allow for better and more secure storage, better organization and easier mobility. I’ve also preached that being organized is key to being productive at work.
PACKOUT seemed like the next logical step for me, but my 6x10 tool trailer disagreed. The trailer had welded shelves that were custom-designed for the L-Boxx system. As a result, I did not jump on the PACKOUT bandwagon until I replaced my trailer with a Sprinter van.
What Sold Me on PACKOUT:
I recently watched one of my carpenters unpack his PACKOUT stack - he had everything he needed and brought it in on one trip. After seeing that, and knowing I was moving on from a trailer to a Sprinter van, I decided it was time to try PACKOUT’s stackable storage approach.
“Contractors use only 33% of their time on the job site working. The rest of that time is spent on tasks such as material runs, un-planned demands and interruptions, searching for tools and parts, and running errands.”
Making A PACKOUT Everyday Carry Kit
I decided it was time to create tool kits of commonly used tools and ALL of their accessories. Depending on the work we’re doing I would grab that appropriate kit.
A Great Approach, Until It Wasn’t
I was using the PACKOUT kits for a while and realized that there were times that I needed to make one-cut with a circular saw and had to unclick and remove 3 Packout boxes to access the bottom circular saw case. After this happened a few times, I realized that this was a no-go for me.
Back To The Drawing Board
Right around this time I started testing out the PACKOUT drawer sets. They come in two sizes. [ 2 drawer and 3 drawer]
The drawer units got my attention, as well as, my crews eye. The drawer sets instantly allowed me to access lower cases in a stack without removing the upper cases in that same stack.
Hmmmm - ok maybe this is the unicorn I’m looking for. I started organizing my tools using the drawer systems, placing two of them at the rear doors of the van, facing out. My thoughts were that I could access the drawer contents without having to enter the van. Here’s how I laid it out:
Small Drawer Unit:
Drawer 1: Pneumatic finish naier and finish nails
Drawer 2: Pneumatic brad nailer and brads
Drawer 3: Pneumatic pin nailer and M12 cordless pin nailer and pins.
This set up has been working amazingly well. I use the PACKOUT crate to load up the tools I need and bring them in, and keep the PACKOUT drawer units in the van, as a home base, for all of the accessories.
Using these drawers has lead me to the conclusion that I definitely want to add more drawer units to my van for my multi-tool, jigsaw, sander and maybe a mini-recip.
Improvements To PACKOUT
I know I said this wasn’t a product review but I think having a drawer solution on wheels is a must for Milwaukee. I also think that this drawer unit should be large enough for a circular saw or at least a reciprocating saw.
Overall Thoughts on PACKOUT
I really like the PACKOUT system, especially the drawer units. I’m planning on investing in more drawer units for my van. The next group of drawer units will be added to my mobile, “on-wheels,” stack. My goal would be NOT to have to unclip the stacked drawer boxes and keep it as a constant “mobile tower.”
The bottom box on wheels, should absolutely be drawers!
Yes sir
That’s why I primarily use the Packout Dolly I really don’t like the big bottom box as like you said it’s good for big stuff but you have to unclick everything first. Definitely excited to see what they come out with.
the problem is that the wheels eat into usable space. they could still contour around the wheel wells and make the bottom drawer height larger than the top one (or vice versa).
Yes I agree I never use the bottom box because it's a pain to move all the top boxes to get to it. I've thought about cutting a hole in it so I can get to my tools easier lol. I
Totally
110% agree with you on a large PACKOUT drawer needing to be incorporated in the system along with a PACKOUT coffee maker :)
Except the coffee maker will be all plastic. No thanks
@@colebz420 🤣
A single large drawer will tip over when you open it unless it is locked to other boxes.
Thats a great idea! Find a DC powered coffee maker, make a m18 battery adapter, slap on some packout feet and bob's your uncle!
@@colebz420 most home coffee makers are plastic
I agree completely Rob; either a single large drawer on wheels or a slightly taller packout (like the recently announced XL chest) on wheels with two drawers deep enough to accommodate a circ saw and other bulky tools.
One thing you could do is get the hand truck and put the drawers on the bottom and either continuing putting the big tools in the crate or get the new xl tool box and put that on top of the drawers
I have seen this exact solution. Hand truck, drawer box then radio.
Great observations Rob. More draws please Milwaukee !!!
Our endless search for perfection. "Perfect is the enemy of good." Voltaire.
Agree! This system is breaking my back having to dis assemble daily,almost there Milwaukee ,thanks for all you do.
Right on
Why don't you make a custom drawer for the circular saw? You can attach a packout plate to the top & load everything else above it in the stack.
I’ve been loving my pack out system for the same reason, i can keep my tools organized and kitted to fit the task. For what i do..mostly commercial work, stairs are the kryptonite for packout. Sometimes I’m on jobs where i have to work on the 3rd, 4th and 5th floors, all in one day. That’s when i use the backpack. But for most residential work and single story jobs...packout is a time saver.
This is the one and only reason I am a tough system guy. You can get racks to rack all the boxes on the trucks. The unicorn is the L-cart. You can access any box at any time without unstacking!
Totally agree. I’ve gone back to systainers because of this. Fully loaded packout boxes are to big and bulky to be unstacking and re stacking every time you need something out of the lower boxes. Smaller boxes containing individual tools and accessories work a lot better for me. Bring a lot less unnecessary stuff into the job now aswell.
I went from using sustainers to pack ours due to the drawers but you’re right they’re so big and heavy I often don’t bother moving them into the job site. Why don’t sustainers make drawers bigger than their 3 door units!? They’d be perfect!!!
Why would you keep the boxes stacked in the first place? You wheel them in and unstack them and have everything accessible. Ridgid pro gear 2.0 has the removable cart to put drawers on the bottom so you can keep a couple units stacked for a work surface though which is pretty handy. Other than that you just set em out and go to work.
My thoughts exactly on more drawer options. I would like to see a 2 drawer with deep/ shallow storage. A three drawer with varying heights. Maybe halfwith drawer units with multiple options
You’re right Rob, nothing new about modular tool storage by function. Way back in the 1970’s I was in a Navy Fighter Squadron of F-14 Tomcats and depending on each type of maintenance action we had created toolboxes in order to perform those tasks. We had an Engine Pull toolbox, a hydraulic pump toolbox, or preventative maintenance toolbox, etc. Long before Packout arrived 40 years later. Our boxes lacked one thing, interlock. But toting around heavy toolboxes on aircraft carriers is not something that one would want to do all the time but hey it worked great for what it was. And, we were young! Back in the 80’s and 90’s I had my own tools arranged very much like I did when I’m the Navy and once Packout hit the market, I just knew it was going to be a hit. I’ve bought in lock, stock and barrel into this storage system, and you guessed it, it’s all arranged according to tasks. But I have not committed to those drawer packouts yet, and I’m not exactly sure why I haven’t seen a viable use for them, other than their lack of water intrusion prevention. Yet. But I agree, they need a larger drawer for some of the bigger stuff. It only makes sense.
They need a base rollout system with drawers and sell the base box you have as a stack on and you could access what’s inside at a higher level or what ever level works.
Tahiti would work like a rolling toolbox with drawers or an entire base on wheels
@@ConcordCarpenter I’m not really familiar with this system Rob,, is the cart separate from the stuff box ? Seems like the cart should be independent and then you could stack the boxes to suit your needs.
@@oakleyjack7600 watch this. ua-cam.com/video/m1RGzC5kdo8/v-deo.html
I have thousands of dollars in packout. It saves me so so much time I grab whatever boxes i need for a specific job from my garage and off I go. When I get to the job site it’s super easy to move around and find what I need!
That's the main reasons I haven't switched to Milwaukee packout and still use Ridgid stackable. Cost and innovation. Ridgid is cost effective until Milwaukee perfects their system. For the most part it should be all drawers. 1 large, 2, 3 and a 4 drawer for small tools and accessories. It's a total pain to stack and unstack constantly. And they also need a heavier duty dolly.
Unpacking is a time sink. And it spreads out the whole system -- I have to use a work table to then hold all the boxes from the tower. Drawers seem like the solution BUT I've already bought the other systems. One stack the HAS worked is my "painting" setup. Easy to move from room to room. Thanks for a great video!
I have a Painting set up that needs upgrading. Basically it is the large painter's duffel bag I purchased based on the encouragement of my rep at sherwin williams, supplemented by several clear plastic bins. It kinda sucks, tbh
Don't know if you use the led lighting system on your painting setup, but I would consider it, because I am always bringing the led light tripod from room to room. ugh
Packout is great! Mine are full of DeWalt tools.
Anothor great video Rob!!
As a custom cabinet installer working directly out of a shop,keeping tools compact around the boxes has taken some time to dial in.
The last 2 years have been full of a changing lineup of packout.
I started with 2# 3ft tall stacks on roller boxes,I had every tool with all its accessories in its own box.
Next came trading a dolly for 1 stack.
Next I added 6 mounting plates up high on the truck walls,and went to the dolly only.
Next was addition of crates 1 caulks/glues, 1 for touch-up paint gun+accessories ,1 for misc hardware ,and 2 more for ratchet straps/ junk/etc.
Last week I received my pre-ordered 3 drawer stack which cleared out my 15' tote for hand tools ,and several smaller boxes .
My Makita tracksaw shares the large box with a barrel jigsaw ,all their blades,12 batteries shared with mitersaw and the vacuum.
A medium box holds all drills,drivers and bits.
Now the only floor space being used is the dolly stack,and the mitersaw.
All tools are on the walls for ala-cart picking and adding to the single stack.
My idea is a base unit on wheels, that you slide the crate in and out off as a sort of drawer. For me this would work better than a wheeled drawer
Yes. I've been saying this for a while as well
That's a great idea Daryl!
Great video, Rob! 100% agree! Milwaukee needs to put a single, deep drawer in the current drawer shell. Additionally, the new deep XL box that hasn’t even shipped yet also needs to have a single deep drawer option. These could be used with the larger, heavier tools near the bottom of the stack either on the 2 wheeled cart (hand truck) 4 wheeled rolling dolly. Thanks for sharing your journey. The personal touches, insights are invaluable to help each of us find what will work best for our individual situations. We appreciate all you do for the working community, home owners and DIY’ers alike.
Hi Guys!!! Stacking and unstacking Packout boxes is definitely a drag! Thumbs Up on the drawers! I just wish they had better protection in wet environments. I moved to Packout from a rolling tool bag because my tools would rust in the tool bag. Maybe a vertical lid with an o-ring seal can be clamped over the drawers when not in use. And, a large Packout box with a single drawer would be nice for bigger tools.
Keeping a centralized set of Packout boxes in the van and using a few Packout pieces for mobility is probably the best way of using Packout. I'm keeping my main Packout boxes at a centralized location, and using the Packout Compact Toolbox and small Packout organizers for mobility in a handyman environment.
They could have done sealing drawer fronts too! Take a look at the DeWalt tstak drawers sometime, they figured it out. One of a few complaints I have on the packout drawers. Flimsy dividers (I made metal ones) and the bottom of the drawers flexing too much being my only other complaints. Besides that I love my 3 drawer. A front cover like an old machinist toolbox could even double as a work surface too.
I think a home run would be to take the packout rolling toolbox, change it into a single, large front opening drawer. Boom, fit your big tools in there, no more having to take apart the stack to get into the bottom.
Only issue is cost to consumer. Thus thing could be $350 and if it doesn't sell enough then Milwaukee loses. That's the main hold up. Your talking retooling and more marketing to let people know there is something new, plus how many people are on to something else for storage since packout has its issues.....I play the shark tank man on these issues and it all comes down to profit. I just don't know if they would make money on it. Even tho I would buy about 600 just for myself!
You also loose water proof
I agree with the drawers. Been contemplating buying or making my own cart with the 2 drawer on the bottom.
Good point. Lift off heavy boxes to get to the bottom box is PITA. Come on Milwaukee you heard Rob. Get it done
As an auto mechanic moving into the carpentry field. Having a tool storage system that I didn't have to unstack seemed like a no brainer to me. I have been waiting for Milwaukee to make bigger drawers with this in mind before I purchased a system. Come on Milwaukee I don't have all year and I don't want to do it twice.
I know this is an older video but i am the same way with organizing my tools and hated the constant unpacking the upper stuff just to reach the bottom bigger crates, but the packout dolly gets you mobile and then your drawer setups go on the bottom and that gets your bigger boxes on top and available without unstacking every time!! It works great👍🏼
Yes completely agree.
Mine is set up like your first line out with saw on bottom. I bring that set when I am in all day or multiple. So spreading out is fine. When I am on a day or half job; after this video will be making a drawer access tower unit as close as I can for what they have. Great vid
Thanks for sharing
Man you hit the nail on the head. I currently use Dewalt tough system (hate it) and festool sustainers. There is no worse feeling then knowing I need to unstack 4 or 5 tough boxes in the trailer to get to the one tool in the bottom box i need for a punch list item.
Rob this was the reason I went for the Dewalt Tough system, you can slide out your cases without removing everyone, I do like the idea of the draws
Yes sir!! Preach it Rob!! 👍👍👍 Completely agree and thank you for putting this out there!!! Always meaningful videos!
Great video, I’m DEFINITELY going to invest in drawer boxes also
Well thought out! I agree 💯%, Milwaukee packout is killing it. The introduction of a large rolling, mobile drawer solution will be the difference maker to meet our job site demands. Great video, can't wait to receive my 3 drawer unit!
I agree and was sold on the drawers after watching Insider Carpentry set up. I went Tstak because of availability and cost wish they were a hair bigger though.
Yep drawers are the way to go. I only wish the bottom box that is on wheels was a drawer so that I don't have to unpack everything to get to it! Genious system!
Thinking exactly the same as you, Rob.
The drawers are a game changer. Unstacking boxes is so time consuming when you’re doing it constantly. I’m trying to configure a full drawer unit on the dolley that I can just wheel around my work area with hangers for power tools and a work top for making cuts. Looking forward to the next update. 👍
This seems like a good way to go about it. Getting the tools and the parts inside is one thing - but keeping them organized and readily accessible during the job is huge imo. Thanks
As a handyman I bought the milwaukee packout dolly and put the drawer boxes on the bottom. Also gives you a place to carry your level. 😃
@A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz. Thanks Rob for sharing your journey into tool and parts storage as a working carpenter. Hopefully, Milwaukee and even the other tool companies really think about how to make every trade's job easier. I like Dewalt's Toughsystem 1.0 system and the DS Carrier hand truck they made where I don't have to remove everything above it to get to any particular box. But in going to Toughsystem 2.0, those boxes aren't completely compatible with the DS carrier (doesn't lock the boxes to the carrier). Milwaukee really invested R&D into their PACKOUT line and it can only get better with more drawer options like you and I need and want.
Hope you, the crew at TBB, and your families stay safe and well.
Milwaukee LISTEN TO THIS MAN!!!! We want this. I sold all my large packout boxes because un stacking just sucks.
I agree Rob. I have 14 different packouts and I get tired of un-stacking them. I don't have any drawers yet but I will get a 2 drawer one that I plan to store my batteries in. Currently I have my most used tools stored loose in my van. I hang my rear handle circular saw just inside the rear doors using the rafter hook. I keep my impact on the shelf that is the home for my table saw and miter saw.
Well your wish was answered.. seems like the packout “cabinet” that’s being released in June will be perfect for your saw
Totally agree about needing more stackable drawer options…
Just switched to Packout and went through this. After many returns and exchanges, here’s my load out.
4 wheel dolly, cabinet for band saw etc., 2 5in drawer set, 3 drawer 1 5in 2 2.5in drawers, thin organizer with socket set inserts, Couple small organizers with purpose built inserts like a soldering kit, Packout vacuum, Packout backpack. Everything is accessible without having to unstack! Next I’m printing some stuff to let me easily carry my fish rods and extension cords and such!
Hey here's a thought. Use the packout cabinet as the bottom box. Put that on the packout dollie system. Then use an actual dollie to lift the tower and take it to where you're going. Now you have a tower on 4 casters with the bottom cabinet being large enough to put your circular saw etc. Pricey but may be a decent solution until they come up with something better
I have a remodeling company and I just bought the new dewalt toughsystem 2.0 with wall rack mount, and I eliminated the problem of removing the all the containers on top of each other the best solution in my opinion, maybe not as strong as Milwaukee but definitely a better design for mobility and accessibility in a trailer or van
Can you explain how toughsystem drawers are better than packout drawers?
I’m not sure which to invest in
@@Tigerratcat i use a enclosed trailer and use the regular rack system, it's about 100 and comes with brackets for 5 or 6 boxes and they are adjustable for every inch so you can set your boxes of any size you buy and you can remove one at the time , and the Milwaukee set up each tray is very expensive compared to the Dewalt
Totally agree Rob, haven't gone pack out yet, but will as soon as that bottom has drawers😎😍😎
Good analysis, I agree. I’m hoping to get to the point where I can replace adjustable shelf cabinets in my shop ( where I currently store most of my tools) with multiple pack-out stacks (with large drawers) such that I can both easily select and assemble stacks to take to specific projects, but which will also function as standing / useable “permanent” storage that I can easily utilize without unstacking when I have shop-based projects.
Glad it was helpful!
I'm currently investigating doing the same thing. The drawer units are not cheap, but the fact that I can stack them on a mobile base and move them around and load them in the truck is really convenient.
Thanks for sharing mate! Great to see what you’ve been through and your thought process.
Thanks for watching!
Yes.
Great insight.
I like to floor load my cases so I can grab what I need fast!
I then stack them up and proceed into the job.
They need to make that rolling tool box preferably with 1 large drawer. They will be golden!
Your best video - thanks. I am having the dilemma. Currently I’m working on a job site with five or six bags and are running back-and-forth with bags. very annoying. I was always envious of the mechanics workspace all his tools are in his work area. All neatly stacked in drawers
Yes yes please milwaukee. Thanks for sharing your journey Rob couldn't of said it better myself.
Rob i couldn't agree more. Im the same way with trying not to unload boxes as much as i can. Whatever I rarely use id leave on the bottom box. The bottom box has been the main complaint I think when it comes to packout. It gets the most complaints. Mine would be it can't unclip from the base. The handle can't remove without making accessory changes. It doesn't have drawers which they should've included one big drawer beneath the box. Lastly there's some space taken up from the shape of the wheels instead of Milwaukee extending the box out a little further and the inside can be a square shape instead of a bevel at the bottom. The list can go on and on but I'm surprised Milwaukee didn't put more thought into some of this
Amen
@@ConcordCarpenter Milwaukee should actually make a cart like the tool chest on wheels that have two drawers parallel with each other. Basically like the existing chest that's there now but drawers instead
I love the packout system. But, as you point out, Milwaukee was short sighted on a few features of the packout. Fortunately there are some pretty crafty 3D printing and metal milling enthusiasts that have created some very useful accessories to the packout to make it even better. There are level and framing square holders you can attach to the sides. There is an accessory called a joey that you can mount to the aluminum struts to attach another packout box or crate in front so your not staking so high. Cup holders, and packout feet so you can turn anything into a packout accessory. Even adapters to make dewalt tough system attach to packout. The possibilities are endless.
There are rafter hook slots that attach to the aluminum struts so you could carry the sawzall there and keep it out of the crate so you could use the crate for other things.
My set up right now;
-Custom base with 4 locking swivel caster wide enought for a regular dolly
- 3 drawers pack-out; blade for circular saw, saw-all, jig saw and multitool. grinder,drill and impact acc. batterie
-Mid size pack-out; 6-1/2 saw, grinder, saw-all, drill, impact jig-saw. router
-Wath-ever 1 need on top, screw, tote..... job depending.
Will make another one with a more ''finnishing'' style.
I was in the exact same boat. I spent close to $1,000 on all the stackable boxes I was getting so frustrated having to remove all the boxes just to get to the bottom to get to my circular saw. I ended up just buying 2 of the three drawer setup, stacked on top of the rolling box. I was able tools , fittings and battery-powered tools, within the six drawers. The rolling box on the bottom only holds my large power tools. It is they're mainly just to have mobility.
I still can't believe they don't have/sell a built in easy labeling on the packouts I mean come on DeWalt knew that with tough system v1
I'm liking the drawers as well. Saves time stacking and unstacking. And i agree, there needs to be a drawer big enough for the circular saw!
Great stuff, Rob. That system is the best I have seen.
absolutely same here. however i am using the dolly and drawers as a solution putting drawers on the bottom and tool box on the top but still have to remove screw containers and other boxes to access it.
I agree 100% That's why I haven't gone to Packout. I use the craftsman totes as drawers in a rolling cabinet. If they come out with a rolling base that maybe has 2 drawers: one deep enough for a 7-1/4 rear handle circular saw and then an extra thin one above it; just thick enough for a 30' tape measure laying flat so you can put tapes, knives, squares, marking tools etc. If they come out with that - I'll jump on board!
I put all specific tools and accessories in one box by itself, for instance, hanging doors all tools and bits for that specific process , along with the fasteners and hardware always stay in one box, including a router that never gets changed , it stays setup. EG, plumbing box, electrical box, Kitchen install box............one trip in and I haven't purchased much packout yet, I've been using versa stack famously , the small drawer units with one tool box attached. Only just now visiting packout (which is one reason I'm watching this vid) along with many others.
EDIT: oops! i guess I should have watched this whole video before my comment......................
Packout Cabinet!
I picked up a few drawer packout pieces and its a must have.
100% agree - The bottom box should be one big drawer for large tools.
you made this video 3 years ago , milwaulkiw have only just release the rolling drawer chest now ! toughbuilt beat them on the release with their own also. i have gone through EXACTLY the same process with my pack out system also .
I'm a Dewalt guy but I can see the value in a good set of non yellow, quality boxes. As always you dive a little deeper than most, proving that these are well thought out, organized and thorough videos. Thank you for taking the time to make them and please keep the coming
Jim - Affordable Landscaping (Beverly, MA)
James just say it bro......Milwaukeeeeeee.
@@johnargumaniz9179 not for framers and builders
As long as I can get all my stuff inside with minimal trips I know everything's there. No more going to the truck and I'm happy with that if I have to take my setup down I think that's exceptable compared to the formentioned. Congratulations on your packout journey.
Great video as always, Robert. I’m a huge fan of the packout system as well but do agree that the stacking and unstacking isn’t ideal. I purchased the packout 2 wheel hand cart and was anticipating using that with drawer boxes on it instead of the large standard rolling box. Unfortunately, I haven’t been able to get my hands on any drawer boxes and it sounds like they’re going to be back ordered for a while. It would be great if Milwaukee made the bottom box as a single deep drawer because I too keep my sawzall and circular saw in there. I do think Milwaukee is just getting started with packout though and will continue to release more innovative solutions.
Wish Milwaukee would make the rolling case with, instead of a drawer, a pivot out bin. Hinged at bottom so you can access box when stacked. Nailed it!
That's a great idea!
@@ConcordCarpenter lets "getterdone"!
Came to agree. Everybody already did... all your problems are what I had which cause me to sell the couple Packout items I had and simply store it in my trailer... I have since bought Packout vac with intent to eventually buy more Packout things, since seeing the drawers... but not pulling the trigger till I get a couple more options!
Thanks for the killer vid, helps me to see I’m not the only one with these issues and I look forward to seeing what Milwaukee makes!
Hopefully that Packout ladder that I saw a patent for on another channel!
I've seen they now offer a big box with a flip up front door that tucks out the way when you open it. Not a drawer, but still provides access without unstacking.
Strangely, this system seems like it might work better for DIY folks than for pros. I don't need to move everything from my garage to the job site in the livingroom. I could have a "hanging kit" for when I needed to hang something and an "electrical kit" for when I needed to do some wiring. I could separate my automotive tools into dedicated kits as well. So rather than having to take tools out of drawers, put them in a caddy, then put them back when the job was done I could just grab the appropriate kit and go.
I hear you about the drawers. When I needed a mobile storage system the packout didn't have the drawers available. The tough system didn't have enough drawer options and the systainers seemed too basic and plastic for the price. I ended up with the tstak-versastak system. It has been great, but I would have gone with packout drawers if they were available when I started this journey. Open bins on a towers of drawers is now how I install and work in the shop. All the same tools in all the same places.
This video is 2 years old so I know there's no future predicting, but now there's toughbuilt stacktech that is making a stack you don't have to disassemble to have access to anything. Plus lots of transit options like a hand truck they snap to and such
Thanks for the vid. As you probably have seen, the Packout cabinet could be the answer to your prayers
Could be
Agree with o 100% and hoping the soon-to-be-released cabinet is a good solution in the meantime.
The wheeled box should be one big drawer
Exactly why I haven't gotten into pack out, myself. The tool that you need for a "quick fix" is going to be in the bottom bin. It's Murphy's Law in action.
Wasted van trips due to lack of organization does suck and the quest of the perfect system seems unobtainable so compromises always are made. I totally agree that taking boxes off to get to the bigger tools that likely only need a few minutes use sucks. Thanks for the vid.
Wow. I couldn't have found this video at a perfect moment. Just started investing into the packout system. Got the big box on the way with a couple parts/tool cases. Now I want a drawer system. I'm a residential construction electrician so I'm always back and forth on rough and finish work. May start doing a packout for each and may even invest into another tool belt to isolate what I reach for in rough and finish work. Too many times I've been reaching for a screw and get jabbed by a wire staple. Ouch. Awesome vid! I also agree. Milwaukee needs a bigger drawer case. I bet they have it engineered and are just selling what they have currently so we all end up paying twice once a large drawer is ready.
Hi and I love your video
I agree ! Big drawer units. That’s reason I haven’t changed to packouts. I built my own big drawer units and used them for a few years but they were just to heavy to move around.
💯 on the bigger drawer. Would be nice to have one solid drawer
Totally agree, I put all my tools in the bottom big boy. My back won't take that any longer, putting it in an out of the van haha
I just remove everything from the bottom packout usually and that works for me. I think it will especially if you have the drawers directly above the rolling packout. Then it's just a case of unclipping once and you're free to reach bigger tools etc.
Great tip!
Yes my biggest complaint is stacking and un stacking. You get what you need out and stack it back then realize you left something and repeat! I actually started bring two carts at a time to have something to stack to and from but that’s still a hassle so you add a third next thing you know the whole purpose in efficiency is shot. DRAWERS IS THE KEY MILWAUKEE!
Make a big drawer unit. I love packout and got sick of my ford f250s center console so when I saw the compact packout I got a lite bulb. Packout center console. I ripped out the factory and it was almost the same size just smaller. So know I have a little space to actually vacuum when I clean my truck. Plus I can snap new kits for the top of it for stuff I like to bring w me on trips
It’s truly a journey , a chess game that you can never win ( but you can steadily improve ! ) . One very usefull mod I did was replacing stock wheels , with heavy duty wheels from Shepard !
Oh man send me a pic info@concordcarpenter.com
@@ConcordCarpenter I’ll get one up for you tomorrow , I had to make two bushings ( out of 1/2” Pex ) and put in a couple of washers , really not much to see . Here in Canada , the wheels can be an issue , jumping curbs in extreme cold ! I will apologize in advance , I’m a crappy photodog , basically the ends of the Milwaukee axel are turned down , the Pex scraps just make a useable bushing . The Shepard wheels a tad bit smaller than stock . The stock ones have been known to have Hub/“ tire “ separations in extreme cold .
My same thoughts. I'm outfitting my sprinter currently
The big rolling toolbox needs to have a single giant slide out drawer. Agree with everything you said and I’m new to Packout.
I've moved to the draws on the dolly. The stack works as a "return it here" location. I use the tray and crate to pull from the stack.
I was getting tired of looking were I placed the latest tool on the job site.
The other issue is weight. A this stuff gets heavy.
I think there is a limit to what can be stacked on the drawers.
Use a packable joey on your rolling bottom (horizontal pack out rail bracket). You could then hang a crate in front of rolling tool box with circ saw
Yep. They need a big one drawer unit, with slightly bigger rollers. For the circulars.
I wrote Milwaukee and asked them to make the 3 draw unit with wheels basically because then you don't have to remove everything to access the bottom bin.
For me a two large draw bottom with a 3 draw on top of that with the vacuum on top and the deep half space organizer next to that would be ideal.
The amount of times you'd have to remove items would be reduced to if you had a vac and half organizers on top.
I even asked them if there was a way they could make a front loading lunch box lol
Anyways I doubt they'll listen to some guys random email, but I know they would definitely listen to a Concord Carpenter 🙂
I do agree but wheeled big drawers will be the ultimate Packout box
Agree 100% I have pretty much gone thru the same thing.
Great video, unfortunately i made a major purchase of the packout setup's 7 rolling towers, then they came out with the drawer units i stuck now until they break, you win some and you lose some keep the video's coming thank you Donald.
Looks like you have a small fortune in packout!
Check the rolling tool box on Uline.ca . The bottom box tips out so no unclipping of tool boxes. The middle boxes are drawers. This is something you desire from Milwaukee make it Milwaukee but bigger and guaranteed you will sell out.
Keep up the great videos.
You hit the nail right on its head! Mobility and accessibility is key!! It’s an expensive key though !!
I Agree. The bottom dolly box needs to be a single drawer for the larger tools. I hate having to unstack multiple boxes to get in there for something.