Ha ha! The 'Key is on' light. Yup! That's how it worked on my 2003 Disco 2. I spit my Pepsi through my nose watching the movie Cars 2 when Mater - talking about British cars - said, "If there ain't any oil under 'em, there ain't any oil in 'em." Truer words never said. Love your channel Steve!
LOL, Discos and Fenders leave an oil stain as would any Animal leaving Its scent- lol, but to be %100 Honest, my old 1991 turbo diesel Disco was so oil-tight, the engine sump went rusty from underneath thus proving its oil stain remark./ I washed it dry after one oil change, while no oil in the sump I sprayed oil cleaner on the bottom of the sump, and with a good quality 2-part epoxy glue and fiberglass fine mesh put a patch over the once weeping part, 2 coats of it, then undersealed the whole sump - that stopped it.. Should have put a new sump on but never did or did It ever leak again.. Strangely the USA markets never got the original turbo diesel engine, but it's very common here In the UK and Europe. The 2 1/2 liter engine was old fashioned but would easily do 300.000 miles before any major work was needed, and said they could be repaired in the bush by untrained mechanics, but tough enough to pull a house down.. I used to run mine on %50 new cooking oil plus diesel plus a Splash of unleaded to make it run very well,.
Well Steve, what is there to say except that we are so happy to see Big Bird back in its natural habitat. We had many hours of fun in the snow with the Disco and always enjoyed every minute. Thanks for bringing her back and putting her to use in the woods and weather. BTW the rear fenders always rubbed and were that way when I got her originally. I had always intended to trim the rears but never got around to it.
Indeed, love to see older Discos out and about doing things they were made for before they evolved into Mall Cruisers, I loved my old 1991 200Dti 5 speed I used as a daily driver for 10 happy years knowing it could and did do everything I asked of it. Due to becoming disabled I had to sell It to a collector but have owned a "Baby" Freelander turbo Diesel Automatic for the last few years but always looking for a TD5 Japanese Market re-imported back to the UK as most don't have rust underneath, as the Japanese don't salt their roads. A lifelong fan of older "Discos" (the pet name for Discoveries) Steve Is a trusted guy to tell all the truth about cars, so a welcomed video on big Bird.. Thank you all.. Ian - UK.
Some lovely scenery, great shots - loved the drone shots at the beginning. Nice, sensible approach to off-roading, some good advice I will try to heed.
Good to see you putting it through its paces. Also interesting commentary on your approach of how to tackle the various obstacles along the trail. Such tips could prove invaluable for those with less experience at off-roading.
Some new video equipment really added a new perspective to the viewing. The XD is much bigger up close than it looks in the video. It is a beast with a v8 growl. Glad to see it on the road. All the work paid off. Hope to see more videos of the XD in the future.
Yes, you think you know the trails but covered in snow they are a whole new ball game! Great to see the XD being tested for the first time.Interesting problem with the rear tyre there, I think you may be right about needing new shocks but you wouldn't have known without the testing.Nice filming with birds eye view too but a bit scary in time lapse along the trail! Thanks Steve for sharing the adventure.
When wheels disappear into wheel arches that show you the articulation designed into the vehicle, it's no good to have less articulation and leave the other side wheel hanging in the air, not gripping. Discoveries were first Introduced to the UK market as a better-designed 4x4 for farmers and road construction teams thus big offroad capabilities, but they evolved into Mall Cruisers leaving behind their muddy offroad designs. Original Defenders were aimed as a tool for armies around the world to use plus, of course, farmers and construction teams so were slightly different by design. but very rugged but in permanent 4 wheel drive, whereas Discos were selectable 4 wheel drive.. But I love them.. Thank you - Ian - UK.
Its known as a "camel cut" when you put bigger tyres on a disco then do a trim on the wheel arches to prevent rubbing 👍 its what they did in the camel trophy.
Not a new drone same one I used two years ago in this similar video. Off Road With Friends and My Pinzgauer 710M ua-cam.com/video/6SxO-9moCHw/v-deo.html
So the Discovery 1 is the Jack of all trades Land Rover. A great family car, good at towing, great off road, easy to fix, cheap (diesel tdi) to run. If you decide you are going to make it into the ultimate off road truck then you lose all those other advantages. Keep it as standard, repair when needed and it will be the most useful car you own!
WOW, That LR Discovery model connected to my early teenage memories. My parents competed in Camel Trophy in the late 90s. If you're a good driver that Discovery will go through any off-road condition with a full load and passengers.
Not until you follow some Jeep rubicon's where full lockers are needed but most Forest Trails aren't that way you need to go to the desert and to the crawler Trails. Plus the front and rear approach and departure totally suck on the Disco but when it's all you're used to then it's good
I worked for Land Rover for many years. At one point I owned a 1996 XD that was used in the Eco Challenge. There were small differences in what I had and this one. If you would like to sell this vehicle I would like to speak with you about it.
Check your overall wheel diameter. You are probably an inch or two over standard. Not to worry...there is a procedure known to disco owners as the "camel cut". Trim the rear of the fenders to suit...a google search will find it on a LR forum. Great axle articulation. Now repeat with the new Defender.
Do the diff lock/locks work fully in your Land Rover? Looked that only 2 tires (one front, one back) were spin at the same time, or is the diff lock like 20% lock..?
Disco's do not have axle lockers they have what's called a center differential lock because they are all wheel drive so when they want to be regular four-wheel drive like a Jeep they lock the center differential. When people hear Locker referring to that they get confused with axle lockers and then they get excited when they say I have a center-lock when it's nothing special it's just regular four-wheel drive mode going from the all-wheel drive that it is on the street. So basically it's as good as a part-time four-wheel drive going into four-wheel drive but also having traction control. And the old die-hard British bands like to swear by its capabilities of not needing axle lockers which is complete BS anything needs them depending on what you're going in. Maybe not a front one but definitely a rear. There's places where no amount of wheelspin is appropriate or safe for that traction control to grab and suddenly want to flip you backwards when you're climbing up a 40° angle with a cross Axel section on really grippy rocks. But then their excuses while you're taking it Beyond its abilities so apparently to those people its abilities are only what it can do in Factory form LOL I love the debating techniques of die-hard British fans it's hilarious. So if you're taking it on something that would require an axle lock then you're doing something that shouldn't be doing because it didn't come with one. They're the toughest people to talk to. The only thing they can't dispute is the factory front driveshaft not having grease ports but in all honesty I've heard a few of them try to stay while you need to just take it off every few months and manually grease at all and that's okay LOL and I'm like okay well look at the new Defender the traction control is much more aggressive it doesn't even have the wheel spin one time before it grabs and it comes with a rear Locker if you buy that model so I guess we are Locker is good. And that's off of the stupid fully independent suspension are BS where you can't let the battery run out because you can't jump start it or tow it Defender AKA Pretender. Being in America I just can't go for a Jeep Rubicon because everyone has them and it's so trendy but they are outrageously capable. I followed one once in my disco that is lifted on 33s with no sway bars in the front or back and it still has working traction control and CDL. And I thought I was doing a good job when the going got tough and then the Jeeps stopped because they weren't even in 4-wheel drive yet LOL they were into hi just using rear locker but they're differential gear in is so low all they needed was first gear and rear Locker to go where mine was almost maxed out. Best 4 x 4 x far not even close. Maybe around the year 2004 that SUV world yes but not best 4 x 4 in any capacity
Great video - as an owner of a 96 SD 1 and Iowa native (now in Santa Fe) great to see you are an enthusiast. By the way what code scanner do you use to find codes and reset ?
Tires too big for what is at most a ~2" EMU lift (which is more like ~1-1.5"). Those ~265's may be fine for a Defender but those D1 trailing rear fenderwells are notoriously small. The Camel Trophy rigs had the trailing rears (and fronts, if i recall) trimmed back to clear the larger tires. There are plenty of examples of people doing this mod in combination with the Emu lift and the defender sized tires (265/85/16). The one other must-have upgrade (and the pricy one) is installing air-lockers front and rear. *note:
I’m impressed with the driving through some very difficult areas. It looks like some of the other vehicles were very close to trees because of the width. But the Land Rover appeared to be the perfect fit. It was great to see this. I have only ever tried this once and not in the snow. I’d like to see how much tyres would change the experience. Great job 👏
That’s one of the greatest things about a Rover is they are skinny. The mirrors on the disco stick out a ways from the body however whereas they do not on a jeep.
They all have lots of travel from the factory nothing to do with the shocks. They're known to have a lot of travel completely stock despite not having the greatest ground clearance
The rubbing is normal, there is nothing wrong with the lift or shocks. With that size tire you have to trim the fenders (maybe space them outboard but they are so mangled I would trim). PS fixing the CEL should not be hard. What’s the code? PPS I have had a dozen 90s land rovers, it’s my thing.
Man, you need to get familiar with the throttle and momentum. You kind of made one of the most awesome vehicles look helpless. Sorry I hope you learn the vehicle better and get more comfortable off road. low range 3rd gear(auto) lock it if it gets really tough. other wise just drive the damn thing where you want it to go. It will make it. Try working the steering wheel a bit more left and right as you start to lose forward progress
Ha ha! The 'Key is on' light. Yup! That's how it worked on my 2003 Disco 2. I spit my Pepsi through my nose watching the movie Cars 2 when Mater - talking about British cars - said, "If there ain't any oil under 'em, there ain't any oil in 'em." Truer words never said. Love your channel Steve!
LOL, Discos and Fenders leave an oil stain as would any Animal leaving Its scent- lol, but to be %100 Honest, my old 1991 turbo diesel Disco was so oil-tight, the engine sump went rusty from underneath thus proving its oil stain remark./ I washed it dry after one oil change, while no oil in the sump I sprayed oil cleaner on the bottom of the sump, and with a good quality 2-part epoxy glue and fiberglass fine mesh put a patch over the once weeping part, 2 coats of it, then undersealed the whole sump - that stopped it.. Should have put a new sump on but never did or did It ever leak again.. Strangely the USA markets never got the original turbo diesel engine, but it's very common here In the UK and Europe. The 2 1/2 liter engine was old fashioned but would easily do 300.000 miles before any major work was needed, and said they could be repaired in the bush by untrained mechanics, but tough enough to pull a house down.. I used to run mine on %50 new cooking oil plus diesel plus a Splash of unleaded to make it run very well,.
Well Steve, what is there to say except that we are so happy to see Big Bird back in its natural habitat. We had many hours of fun in the snow with the Disco and always enjoyed every minute. Thanks for bringing her back and putting her to use in the woods and weather. BTW the rear fenders always rubbed and were that way when I got her originally. I had always intended to trim the rears but never got around to it.
Many thanks
Indeed, love to see older Discos out and about doing things they were made for before they evolved into Mall Cruisers, I loved my old 1991 200Dti 5 speed I used as a daily driver for 10 happy years knowing it could and did do everything I asked of it. Due to becoming disabled I had to sell It to a collector but have owned a "Baby" Freelander turbo Diesel Automatic for the last few years but always looking for a TD5 Japanese Market re-imported back to the UK as most don't have rust underneath, as the Japanese don't salt their roads. A lifelong fan of older "Discos" (the pet name for Discoveries) Steve Is a trusted guy to tell all the truth about cars, so a welcomed video on big Bird.. Thank you all.. Ian - UK.
So funny, I laughed so hard at your description of the "check engine" light.
I like that ignition on light. All my chevys seem to have that option as well.
Some lovely scenery, great shots - loved the drone shots at the beginning. Nice, sensible approach to off-roading, some good advice I will try to heed.
Very nice video, gorgeous snow pictures. Congrats !
The variety of vehicles is unbelievable
Hi Steve. Great approach. Driving yourself out of trouble not into it ! Thanks
Good to see you putting it through its paces. Also interesting commentary on your approach of how to tackle the various obstacles along the trail. Such tips could prove invaluable for those with less experience at off-roading.
Cool video Steve. Looks like fun !!
Love the truck.
Keep it updated
Steve, I always enjoy these off road videos. Your camera work is very good.
Some new video equipment really added a new perspective to the viewing. The XD is much bigger up close than it looks in the video. It is a beast with a v8 growl. Glad to see it on the road. All the work paid off. Hope to see more videos of the XD in the future.
How is it any bigger than a regular Discovery series 2?
great stuff thanks
Well that was fun. Funny to see the camera fall off the truck.
Yes, you think you know the trails but covered in snow they are a whole new ball game! Great to see the XD being tested for the first time.Interesting problem with the rear tyre there, I think you may be right about needing new shocks but you wouldn't have known without the testing.Nice filming with birds eye view too but a bit scary in time lapse along the trail! Thanks Steve for sharing the adventure.
When wheels disappear into wheel arches that show you the articulation designed into the vehicle, it's no good to have less articulation and leave the other side wheel hanging in the air, not gripping. Discoveries were first Introduced to the UK market as a better-designed 4x4 for farmers and road construction teams thus big offroad capabilities, but they evolved into Mall Cruisers leaving behind their muddy offroad designs. Original Defenders were aimed as a tool for armies around the world to use plus, of course, farmers and construction teams so were slightly different by design. but very rugged but in permanent 4 wheel drive, whereas Discos were selectable 4 wheel drive.. But I love them.. Thank you - Ian - UK.
XD forever looks like an emoticon to me!
Its known as a "camel cut" when you put bigger tyres on a disco then do a trim on the wheel arches to prevent rubbing 👍 its what they did in the camel trophy.
Fancy new drone too!
Which one is it?
Not a new drone same one I used two years ago in this similar video. Off Road With Friends and My Pinzgauer 710M
ua-cam.com/video/6SxO-9moCHw/v-deo.html
It’s a DJI Phantom 4?
@@ThisWeekWithCars I wish they'd make a proper motorcycle mount-cheapo Amazon one broke before I had a chance to mount it
Cant wait for the handlebar camera footage from the Britbike😂
nice , just need to get the bronco 2 out there now
ME GUSTA ,THE PADS AND OBSTACLES FOR ENTRANCE , ONLY USER WILL KNOW IS AND OPEN GATE ,😁😍CLAUDIA
The definition of soft roader. Geez dude. Throttle. The pedal on the right.
So the Discovery 1 is the Jack of all trades Land Rover. A great family car, good at towing, great off road, easy to fix, cheap (diesel tdi) to run.
If you decide you are going to make it into the ultimate off road truck then you lose all those other advantages.
Keep it as standard, repair when needed and it will be the most useful car you own!
You could make one into the ultimate off road truck, this one I am keeping standard.
@@ThisWeekWithCars yes here in the U.K. the D1 is slowly starting to appreciate in value…
Disco owners, “So what fault is yours running?” PO411
WOW, That LR Discovery model connected to my early teenage memories. My parents competed in Camel Trophy in the late 90s. If you're a good driver that Discovery will go through any off-road condition with a full load and passengers.
Not until you follow some Jeep rubicon's where full lockers are needed but most Forest Trails aren't that way you need to go to the desert and to the crawler Trails. Plus the front and rear approach and departure totally suck on the Disco but when it's all you're used to then it's good
Did you let air out of your tyres? Btw, what size are they?
I worked for Land Rover for many years. At one point I owned a 1996 XD that was used in the Eco Challenge. There were small differences in what I had and this one. If you would like to sell this vehicle I would like to speak with you about it.
Did you air down your tires?
Did you try to air down tires?
An old man showed me how to use coal and wood ash on icy patches to promote traction
Try it sometime in future videos
Check your overall wheel diameter. You are probably an inch or two over standard. Not to worry...there is a procedure known to disco owners as the "camel cut". Trim the rear of the fenders to suit...a google search will find it on a LR forum. Great axle articulation. Now repeat with the new Defender.
Do the diff lock/locks work fully in your Land Rover? Looked that only 2 tires (one front, one back) were spin at the same time, or is the diff lock like 20% lock..?
It does not have front or rear lockers only a center diff lock.
Disco's do not have axle lockers they have what's called a center differential lock because they are all wheel drive so when they want to be regular four-wheel drive like a Jeep they lock the center differential. When people hear Locker referring to that they get confused with axle lockers and then they get excited when they say I have a center-lock when it's nothing special it's just regular four-wheel drive mode going from the all-wheel drive that it is on the street. So basically it's as good as a part-time four-wheel drive going into four-wheel drive but also having traction control. And the old die-hard British bands like to swear by its capabilities of not needing axle lockers which is complete BS anything needs them depending on what you're going in. Maybe not a front one but definitely a rear. There's places where no amount of wheelspin is appropriate or safe for that traction control to grab and suddenly want to flip you backwards when you're climbing up a 40° angle with a cross Axel section on really grippy rocks. But then their excuses while you're taking it Beyond its abilities so apparently to those people its abilities are only what it can do in Factory form LOL I love the debating techniques of die-hard British fans it's hilarious. So if you're taking it on something that would require an axle lock then you're doing something that shouldn't be doing because it didn't come with one. They're the toughest people to talk to. The only thing they can't dispute is the factory front driveshaft not having grease ports but in all honesty I've heard a few of them try to stay while you need to just take it off every few months and manually grease at all and that's okay LOL and I'm like okay well look at the new Defender the traction control is much more aggressive it doesn't even have the wheel spin one time before it grabs and it comes with a rear Locker if you buy that model so I guess we are Locker is good. And that's off of the stupid fully independent suspension are BS where you can't let the battery run out because you can't jump start it or tow it Defender AKA Pretender. Being in America I just can't go for a Jeep Rubicon because everyone has them and it's so trendy but they are outrageously capable. I followed one once in my disco that is lifted on 33s with no sway bars in the front or back and it still has working traction control and CDL. And I thought I was doing a good job when the going got tough and then the Jeeps stopped because they weren't even in 4-wheel drive yet LOL they were into hi just using rear locker but they're differential gear in is so low all they needed was first gear and rear Locker to go where mine was almost maxed out. Best 4 x 4 x far not even close. Maybe around the year 2004 that SUV world yes but not best 4 x 4 in any capacity
I noticed you were spinning on on side only. Should the diff lock not eliminate that?
It is a center diff lock not front or rear diff lock.
Great video - as an owner of a 96 SD 1 and Iowa native (now in Santa Fe) great to see you are an enthusiast. By the way what code scanner do you use to find codes and reset ?
Tires too big for what is at most a ~2" EMU lift (which is more like ~1-1.5"). Those ~265's may be fine for a Defender but those D1 trailing rear fenderwells are notoriously small. The Camel Trophy rigs had the trailing rears (and fronts, if i recall) trimmed back to clear the larger tires. There are plenty of examples of people doing this mod in combination with the Emu lift and the defender sized tires (265/85/16). The one other must-have upgrade (and the pricy one) is installing air-lockers front and rear.
*note:
I put proper tires on the Disco in the latest video: ua-cam.com/video/G_zOZY6L4PM/v-deo.html
I’m impressed with the driving through some very difficult areas.
It looks like some of the other vehicles were very close to trees because of the width. But the Land Rover appeared to be the perfect fit.
It was great to see this. I have only ever tried this once and not in the snow.
I’d like to see how much tyres would change the experience.
Great job 👏
That’s one of the greatest things about a Rover is they are skinny. The mirrors on the disco stick out a ways from the body however whereas they do not on a jeep.
They all have lots of travel from the factory nothing to do with the shocks. They're known to have a lot of travel completely stock despite not having the greatest ground clearance
The rubbing is normal, there is nothing wrong with the lift or shocks. With that size tire you have to trim the fenders (maybe space them outboard but they are so mangled I would trim). PS fixing the CEL should not be hard. What’s the code? PPS I have had a dozen 90s land rovers, it’s my thing.
I'll be trimming the fenders for sure I did that on the other Defender I on this channel: ua-cam.com/video/UwH9vwkSaKg/v-deo.html
HI Can I communicate with you
Don't worry .... NASA will be able to track the yellow LR lump.
not even one donut? naah
Please get back to wrenching on your car collections
Man, you need to get familiar with the throttle and momentum. You kind of made one of the most awesome vehicles look helpless. Sorry I hope you learn the vehicle better and get more comfortable off road. low range 3rd gear(auto) lock it if it gets really tough. other wise just drive the damn thing where you want it to go. It will make it. Try working the steering wheel a bit more left and right as you start to lose forward progress