the problem at jutland was bypassing the safety procedures specifically designed to stop flash fires making it to the magazines, they were propping safety doors open with bags of cordite!!!!! guess what happened repeatedly? flash fires made it straight to the magazines causing several ships to do what hood did!!! :( beatty had several thousand sailors deaths on his hands the bastard!
@@Scoobydcs Blame FISHER for the design and BEATTY & the Admiralty for their 'Trafalgar' mentality. What was the way a Captain was chosen - how well turned out the ship was NOT, repeat NOT for the primary function - naval gunnery. The Hood was a 22 year old ship with buggered engines and poor protection against plunging fire. Admittedly the Bismarck's shot was a fortunate hit but the design flaws in protection existed from day one and were never addressed.
@@markwalton3706 kinda, yes hood was vulnerable to plunging fire and the captain knew it, thats why he was trying to close on bimark asap then turn broadside to present the decent belt armour, she was hit DURING that turn! hood was also due a refit to increase the deck armour in exactly that area too, never happened because she was always off around the world interwar.
Jingles, an aside here based on the British battlecruisers being lost at Jutland due to lax damage control and powder handling procedures - back in the late 70's/early 80's after I entered the USN, we were still using damage control equipment and procedures that had been developed during WWII and the 1950's - to be fair, that equipment had been proven in combat and had served us well enough for what the USN had faced up until that time. Then came the Falklands War (during which time I was stationed at Holy Loch). The USN took a long hard look at what the Royal Navy had to endure in that war, and at our own equipment and procedures. In mid 1983, when I returned to the US and duty on one of our first Trident submarines, I found that they had done a complete overhaul and update of our damage control equipment and procedures - thermal imagers, firefighting suits, flash protection clothing, updated breathing apparatus, etc, etc - it was like they had done a time warp from the 1950's straight to the 1980's. For myself, I believe those of us who have served in the USN owe a debt of gratitude, to the men and women of the Royal Navy who served in that war - we learned from what they had to endure, and it has probably saved untold lives in the USN in the intervening years.
really? i read an old history book on WW1 (fuck me why did i say world war 2) i thought battlcruisers couldn't take a hit unlike those of battleships that why they lost
To be honest, that was the accepted "reason" for many decades. However, in the past few years, they've located many of the wrecks from the Battle of Jutland, including the battlecruisers, and sent down divers to investigate. What they found was as Jingles stated in this video - flash doors left open, powder and shells stacked in the turrets and passageways, all because of the mantra of achieving as high of a rate of fire as possible - they threw their own safety procedures to the wind, and it came back and bit them squarely in the ass. It's also come to light in recent years that the Admiralty KNEW this was the primary reason for the loss of those ships - and that many careers would be ruined if this came to light - so any report even hinting at this was buried, and the "lack of armor" mantra was the public face put on the reason for their loss. You can find the documentaries, where divers examined the wrecks of the battlecruisers, here on youtube.
Really a bit of both explanations. Yes, the catastrophic explosions were largely due to improper powder storage/handling and lax safety procedures, as you described. However, it was only the relatively thin armor of the British battlecruisers which allowed the German shells to reach that improperly handled powder to detonate it. Even though the British BCs' strongest armor was on the turrets and barbettes (as with most warships), that was still no more than 7 inches (Invincible and Indefatigable) or 9 inches (Queen Mary) thick: simply not enough to resist the 11- or 12-inch shells of the German BCs. In contrast, the Queen Elizabeth-class battleships had between 10 and 13 inches of armor over the same areas. So while the QEs undoubtedly shared in at least some of the lax powder handling and safety practices as the BCs, they survived their numerous hits at Jutland because they had enough armor to keep the German shells away from the vulnerable powder. Both the weak armor and the lax powder handling of the battlecruisers (at Jutland) was required to bring about their catastrophic loss; where only one problem or the other was present, as in the QEs, the ships survived. A bit different in the case of the Hood, though. As far as we know, the Hood did not employ lax powder handling at Denmark Strait, and was destroyed by a direct hit to a magazine (whether it was a 4-inch or a 15-inch magazine is still debatable). In her case, her armor did have distinct flaws that reflected normal practice at the time she was designed, which weren't adequately addressed during her construction or service, and proved fatal when sent up against a far more modern vessel.
Not just the Battle of Jutland but WWI as a whole was just a mess of incompetent leadership and poor planning largely due to commanders on both sides refusing to change strategy despite the rapid advance in technology and infrastructure.
Eternal Father is such a fitting ending to this episode. It's the US Navy's hymn too. It always brings a tear to my eyes. Over 1400 men went down with this ship... And when at length her course is run, Her work for home and country done, Of all the souls that in her sailed Let not one life in thee have failed; But hear from heaven our sailor's cry, And grant eternal life on high! Be well, Jingles, and thanks for this episode.
Eternal Father (Navy Hymn - First Verse and Mariners Verse) Eternal Father, strong to save, Whose arm hath bound the restless wave, Who bidd'st the mighty ocean deep Its own appointed limits keep, O hear us when we cry to thee For those in peril on the sea! Lord, stand beside all those who sail Our merchant ships in storm and gale, In peace and war their watch they keep On every sea, on thy vast deep. Be with them, Lord, by night and day, For Merchant Mariners we pray.
My uncle served on the Hood, fortunately for him he transferred to submarines just before the fateful last battle. I would have bought this even if it was a floating turd, glad to hear you t isn't. Great job, Jingles!
MrPnhartley the ship is a turd , but jingles doesn't speak out about this stuff anymore . as he is friends with some of the devs and gets free stuff . a bb with worse krupp than the tier 5 nickolarse dd . sigma that undershoots all the time . can't pen 305mm of armour , oh most tier 6,7,8,9 have 305 or more belt armour. mm is bb heavy so you can delete the 3 cruisers that will be in mm and that's it bb and dds the rest of the way . her aa rockets are good but only have 200hp each . tier 5 dd guns will one shoot each of those rockets even with preventative maintenance . sorry for the long post but the state hood is in now she is a turd!!!! and i'm not a hater i waited since obt for rn . but looking at this i waited for nothing good
MrPnhartley just disappointed ! a bb that has to aim for other bbs superstructure and not the water line for fear of broken shells . the new tier 6 RN dd has nearly 2400 krupp , hood has less than 2150 . so dds shells shatter less than a bbs big guns . if you think that's acceptable then that's up to you . i'm from glasgow my whole family has worked on the ship yard that built her . i have a model of her on my mantel , i don't need a digital port decoration . but yes i'm disappointed , if they can do this to the hood then what do you think they will do to the lesser known of our bbs . id rather not know
Nove Seth lol think you should check the na server !! hood is being sold in only one package . nearly 80 pound lol no ship only pack just the 80 pound one lol . WAIST OF CASH
@@FanEAW They have actively went after slave trader ships. They would stop search and take over ships of any nation they suspected of slavery. They would raid african shore slave trading outposts. And to my knowelage said "fuck you, fight me." to any nation that complained about it. Look up the British West Africa Squadron.
you bought it with money but I bought it for free, it just gave me the hood in the mail, I also got Kaga, Atlanta and (I don't know what was that destroyer) but they look premium
+Mark Hermens It is unclear on how the Bismarck was sunk, but since it sank right after Dorsetshire torpedoed it, i'd say that you're the muppet. Why would they scuttle a ship that would be useless to the Royal Navy anyway? It was so heavily damaged and so far away from land it would be pointless trying to tow it to shore and repair it.
I remember seeing a documentary on UA-cam where they went looking for the Hood's wreckage with a remote-controlled submarine launched from a science ship; after they found it, they went back with the last Hood survivor who at that point was still alive. They actually seemed to reach some conclusions on how exactly she had exploded and whether her captain was at fault; they concluded that he had done all he could have done right. A problem not mentioned by Jingles here was that the Hood was due to be uparmoured further; her front half had been taken good care of but her rear half was still weak. And that rear half uparmouring had been postponed and postponed, because the Hood was constantly being paraded around the world like a rock star in the 1930's, right up until the point where the war started and she was needed in action. Or so I remember it from this documentary anyway.
Jingles moment? 10:14 "... the Royal Navy had ... been a peace time navy for the previous 200 years..." Whether you count the time from 200 years previous to Jutland or 200 years before WW2, you still have the Seven Years War, the American Revolutionary War (where Admiral Hood got famous enough for a ship to be named after him), the Napoleonic Wars (incl. Trafalgar), the War of 1812, the Crimean War, the Opium Wars, the Battle of Navarino and countless incidents of gunboat diplomacy. I don't think the Navy's gun barrels got to cool down before Jutland :) Oh well, back to the salt mines.
Britain: We will chase you down with the Hood and corner you with the unsinkable HMS Rodney. Germany: mmmmmm how about no. Britain: Hmmm. That didn't work. But we will hunt you down with our aircraft carriers and slow you. Bismark: oh, oh. Britain: May we introduce you to the HMS Rodney. Don't let her smaller size fool you. Bismark: We will fight to the last shell.... oh, bugger. Ouch. Ouch. Ouch.
Despite never having played any of these games, you make these videos so entertaining to watch, I feel like I don't have to have played them to enjoy your content.
TheKazragore I used to play WoWS, eventually got to Tier 7 in the American cruiser and destroyer line, but I eventually got a bit tired of the grind and raging at my teammates. I still watch Jingles' videos, especially when he gets to nerd out over a ship like HMS Hood.
TheKazragore I know what you mean. I haven't played wow yet, but I do want to. However, these videos are so interesting to watch that I don't even have to play the game to enjoy it. I do play a mobile warship game called battle of warships tho
Wow! Thank you. Your commentary was very informative. It really gave me some perspective on the British Navy from 1915-1939. I myself am a veteran of the United States Air Force, four years military and thirty-nine years as a civilian employee. Again, respectfully, thank you.
Many might not know this. But as the Hood's bow was sinking. The forward turret fired a final salvo at the Germans before it sank. Some think it was the turret exploding. While others claim that the doomed crew inside it fired. Sometimes I think at that very moment. Somehow, the Hood itself had fired the turret before it sank. It was as if she fought until the bitter end.
100 years of peace, my gnomish overlord, not 200. Trafalgar was in 1805 and that's when the Royal Navy's great era pomp and circumstance started,- assuming you don't count things like the naval campaign of the Crimea or Opium Wars. 18th century has victories and actions like the Glorious First of June, the Battle of the Nile, the Battle of Quiberon Bay and Wager's Action, to name a few. 18th century is what cemented British Naval prestige and paved the way for Britain's imperial century. Now I'm going to head back to the salt mines :)
Hood was not sunk because of her deck armor. The angle of ship and fall of the shell meant her belt armor was most likely penetrated, as her deck armor was extremely unlikely to be penetrated from that range.
That history lesson at the beginning of the video was amazing! It was really coherent and the cause and effect relationships were excellently described.
I enjoy pretty much every single video Jingles makes, but these ship videos with the historical element do hold a special place in my heart. I find them very enjoyable.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the torpedo mounts were submerged and wargaming has spoken and confirmed that they will not implement submerged torpedo mounts in-game., hope this helps answer your question :)
+MR 499 No they're not really submerged. They're these 2 "windows" at each of her sides. www.hmshood.com/ship/torpside.jpg Jingles even mentioned them in the video at 23:12.
Yes, I have done some more in-depth research and have found that the 2 torpedo tubes near the A turret? were submerged however the 4 near to the back were window mounted as you stated above, anywho I need some rest
I’m probably a little late to the party on this but, great job on the point about Royal Navy captains in this period. It was really interesting to hear how much priorities of captains had changed from battle readiness to ship cleanliness. It was a really interesting discussion and I loved it, thanks for including it in the video
I can't imagine the horror the rest of the navy felt when they saw their 'unsinkable' flagship explode. RIP to all the brave sailors that died in the war.
Nobody ever claimed Hood to be unsinkable, she was far less armoured than the King George V class that accompanied her. Hell, HMS Warspite was more armoured than her.
"The British battlecruisers exploded in such spectacular and catastrophic fashion whenever they were hit by German battleship caliber shells" ... Why does that sound familiar? :P
@@lewistaylor2858 she might of won if she wasnt hit in the magazines but not so sure there isnt no comparision to say. it probably would of been difficult.
Jingles, thanks so much for this video. I think the ending you attached is a fitting tribute to all who sailed in HMS Hood, and the sacrifice they made.
17:20 Yanno, the way you explained how the UP rockets worked (AMAZING explanation BTW! I had yet to look up the real life specs) I can imagine that up close, and well manned, they COULD have been absolutely devastating!
Hood's demise was very different from Battlecruisers that were sank during the battle of Jutland. At jutland it has been discovered that improper stowage and handling of the cordite was the reason they were exploding left and right. Hood as you said suffered a perfect hit from plunging fire and resulted in the perfect storm of naval combat. Hate to say this but the Royal Navy should have never sent a 20 yr old Battle Cruiser to handle a full on modern Battleship...regardless of intel. And yes they were well aware of Bismark by that time and had enough details to know they needed more ships. They were brave sailors however, balls of steel in my opinion, regardless of pride every one of them were pretty sureas soon as they found Bismark their numbers were up.
What else would they do, send a non-shaken down KGV on its own? Let Bismark do what it wanted without facing it? Anyone can have bad luck, Hood was no different than any other, they took a calculated risk, it didn't work (though in the long run it did since Bismarck was also destroyed), happens in war.
Wolfchacer she was also the only ship in range of the Bismarck and the eugan with the assistance of two crusers and the prince of Wales she was sent there to slow down the Bismarck in order for the home fleet to get in range to hit the Bismarck
You fight a war with what you have, not what you wish you had. The RN had many capital ships but had to cover several access points to the Atlantic. The Hood and PoW got assigned the Denmark Straight. Hood was heavily armored, to the same thickness as Bismarck in terms of belt armour although thinning out more quickly. It was a very good ship considering it had been cruising the world's oceans for 20 years before Bis was even built. As for PoW, well, they were still building her on the way to the fight.
@@artificialgravitas8954 it was still a very capable ship that posed a true threat to the Bismarck this wasn't sending a boys ATR out to engage a tiger.
Thank you for your historical explanations at the beginning concerning the ship and the executive officers promotions. That explains lots of things! Thank you!
@Brian Roome The British may have called her BC at the time but considering she had several improvements over the QE class, most modern historians such as Anthony Preston believe the term fast battleship is more accurate. As for superior German sailors, there is little to no evidence of that. For example British gunnery at Jutland was far more accurate than that of the HSF. Personally the one time I sailed in a small boat with a German coxswain he almost sank us, luckily I actually knew what I was doing.
I actually just read something on Hood only a week ago. It's believed that her Starboard Fuel Tanks also caught fire and exploded. The Hood's wreckage has been found, long ago, and according to what was discovered, it is entirely possible that more exploded inside her than just ammo.
Great review Master Jingles! I'd like to make a suggestion. One thing we can all agree on around here is that we love listening to you talk about history. You used to end some Mingles w/Jingles a while back with a short talk about certain lesser known heroes of their era. I want to put out there we'd love a monthly'ish series where you just talk about a certain battle, vessel/tank, or commander. Call it something that reflects it's a history lesson. But with Jingles, so it'll be awesome. :) I'll keep posting this so you eventually see it. Maybe others can help with reminders if they like the idea. (nicely guys) Cheers all!
Jingles as an American I normally find your videos a refreshing change from the childish banter I'm use to in the NA server. This video was no different. You even said you were going to be Bias to British ships and still managed to stay objective and on point about the Hood, a ship I'm very much looking forward too. Not only that you managed to make a quality video showing the strengths and weakness of the ship in combat and even managed to give some helpful tips for newer players on how to battleship. So from the southern side of the US, Good on you sir. Good Luck, and fair seas.
PwnyDwn there are only 2 ships of the royal navy people will get biased about, those are the Warspite and the Hood. As it stands this video is reasonably unbiased for opinions on the Hood, she did have serious and obvious in hindsight shortcomings but for the era she was designed she was a pretty damn good ship and did deserve the title of most powerful ship in the world in 1920 when she was finished
Out of the cold and foggy night came the British ship the Hood, And The Mighty Jingles, he knew and understood He may not sink the Bismarck, or stop enemy planes But he could send their cruiser force below the briny waves He'll sail the British battleship that's making such a fuss He sails the HMS Hood cause his wallet depends on us So hit the decks a'runnin scrubs, and spin those guns around! Cause when the Gnome says fire, we gotta make 'em pound!
I'm probably not the only one, but I really enjoy the historical information that you supplement your commentary with, even the little things like the aquatic living conditions. Keep up the great work, Admiral!
i had to stop. i've seen documentaries, vids, wikipedia, and best of all your explanation of the rearmoring and shell fusing. i suspected the bismarck's ww2 era shells impacting hood's ww1 deck armor, but your lesson just blew me away! (see what i did there) 21 years USN here. thanks for the excellent vid!
Hood is definitely the prettiest naval vessel I’ve ever seen. I put it ahead of the Iowa class. Since I’m American, I’ve seen Iowa, and it’s a great ship.
Battlecruisers are always in the BB line in world of warships. Myogi or Amagi are battlecruisers for example. This makes sense because battlecruisers are capital sips, they are battleships with weaker armor to gain more speed (for the royal navy at least). Battlecruisers are NOT heavy cruisers with bigger guns. Graf Spee is a cruiser in WWoWS because it was a Heavy Cruiser in reality, just one with an unusual main armament layout. The germans classified them as heavy cruisers in 1940, the allies always did. While heavier than a "treaty"cruiser, Graff spee displaced less than the Admiral Hipper or other later Heavy Cruisers and it has nowhere near the displacement of a Battlecruiser. With only 6x 11 inch guns it also does not have battleship armament. It was build at a time were new battleships had 8-9 16 inch guns.
There's another thing about (most) battlecruisers that makes them distinct from plain cruisers in this game: they were much bigger than ordinary cruisers. I think it's safe to say that ships like the Kongo and the Hood handle much more like battleships than cruisers, and would have had similar amenities, and that's probably a big part of why they're classified as such in-game.
I do miss these historical takes on ships. I mean, you might have completely run out of interesting ships that were actually in combat, but if you hadn't - I think it'd be awesome if you did these again :)
Excellent review, appreciate the historical context especially your points on pre-Jutland gunnery philosophy (i.e. rapid fire at any cost) and post Jutland lessons learned impacts on the Hood's design.
The Battlecruiser concept proved to be a bad one. They were originally intended to run down raiding enemy cruisers. Then more roles were heaped on them as time went on. Scouts and screens for the Battleship fleets, etc. When used in their original purpose, the BCs had success. As happened at the 1914 Battle of the Falkland Islands, running down and destroying raiding German cruisers. But even then the Admiralty didn't really want to send their BCs to do that job, because they wanted to keep them with the main Battleship fleets and use them more like BBs. As they found out at Jutland, duels against other ships with battleship sized guns wasn't something they were good at, especially against a properly armored Battleship. A failure of doctrine/use.
The Dunkerque had armor that could withstand the fire from 3 of Germany's 5 Battleships. She wasn't build to fight the last war, she was built to fight a new breed of ship, the Pocket Battleship. But given so many of Germany's battleships had 11in guns, the Dunkerque remained relevant on paper at least. She just wouldn't be able to withstand the Bismarck-class, or Littorio-class Battleships. I can't fault the Hood's design, she was built in an earlier era facing a brand new mega ship. It would be like a Colorado class Battleship facing a Yamato-class.
How is the the Dunkerque even remotely comparable? For one thing as most people like to forget, the Hood is a battlecruiser, whilst the Dunkerque is a Battleship. And the Hood was launched in 1918 whilst the Dunkerque was launched in 1935. They are literally generations apart in ship design. Silly comment.
Jingles I learned more from your concise and clear commentary about the Hood and why the ships were so vulnerable then anything I've seen on T.V or UA-cam. You should make your own documentary about the History of the Royal Navy. The bizarre paint schemes of the Victorian navy makes sense to me now!!
I find it hilarious that people only ever correct jingles over minor details rather than compliment him for his videos, personaly I don't ready care if he makes a mistake, sure if he says something wrong I think ummm accually jingles, but I don't bother typing it 'cause he knows it him self, he edits the fucking video, welp that's my rant, good view and have a nice day
Jarrett IceEarthGuard it's true though, people only care about his mistakes,.But not the content, cuz they get butthurt when a stranger says something wrong, like what Just noticed I'm in my alt account XD
Great ending, I'm an old US Navy guy as well who also really enjoyes WWII history. Sad story of the hood but thanks for honoring the sailors who died. Fair Winds and Following Seas.
Only problem i have with Hood is that its classified as BB. In my opinion there should be a teir line for battlecruisers, like Invincible, Hood, and Alaska
Oreo Saurus I'm Italian , an is floating pasta whit pizza loded guns made of the best Sicily cannoli, and the innovative imps paper armor that ensures that a shell before making an impact whit the ship had to go through 8 years of italian bureaucracy , good luck whit that
Really enjoyed this video. especially the history of the HMS Hood. I always thought it was a flash from one of her own guns that exploded her magazine. My Grandfather was a pilot in the fleet Air Arm during this conflict. A couple of his classmates from Dartmouth, perished with her. Anyway great video.
My deepest respect to you sir, and your 22 years of service to your countrymen. I served 22 years, US Army Infantry, retiring in 2010. I salute you sir ! Hooah ~ !
This guy knows his shit!!! When I can watch a gaming video and learn something, my hats go off to him. Only comment though, she only was able to achieve her 31+ knot speed during a brief period of her life and wasn't really able to achieve it again. Even during the destruction of the French Fleet she should have been able to run down and destroy the French battleship that was able to get out of the harbor but she was spitting out sparks from her funnel and after 2 hours of trying to catch up, Hood gave up the chase. From what I've read she never really got the total engine overhaul she desperately needed. Maybe a small one but not a complete one. I just don't see how Britain could've considered her the "Pride of the Royal Navy" when they didn't take care of her. The RN knew she needed to be modernized but the excuse "other priorities" always took president. She truly was an absolutely beautiful ship. Nice lines and the fact that she belonged to the most badass navy in the world at the time made her that much more an important part of naval history.
Jingles you bloody bufoon. That s not the turtleback you re showing on the scharnrost... The citadel of the Hood is barely considered turtleback. It s pretty standard, eventough it sits very low near the water level
There is no official definition of 'Turtleback armour' it is used to describe angled armour that protects a citadel, the thickness or angle of such armour is not specified. It was used in many warships, even pre-dreadnoughts. It's not just a mythical super armour that only imbued the Germany navy.
it is turtleback I think the first ship to have turtleback was HMS Dreadnought.... so yeah no kraut magic, just an outdated armour scheme (by 1940's anyway, not in 1906 obv.)
Yea but the Germans obviously improved that armor scheme for their battleships & cruisers. Nagato also has a "turtle back" armor scheme, but we all know it's pretty easy to citadel, because the plate is not low enough & is at a very flat angle. In real life it was probably completely useless, because you would have to decrease the armor thickness at some other vital parts like the turret fronts, but in world of warships it's very effective.
TheFellowSheep irl it was less effective, radar gunnery improved so drastically during the 1930's and 40's that long range shots were not a possibility, they were a probability. It made turtle back obsolete.
Hi I'm not a gamer, but a fan of military and naval history. My uncle was a stocker on the Hood, not one of the 3 survivors. So I really enjoyed your video. Especially the part about the cleanliness of the ship being a reason for bad gunnery.
'The british Navy Had been a peace time Navy for around 200 years.' Yup, that's the good old British selective-memory at work again. 'The British Empire was about peace, not like these oil-hungry warlike Americans bullying everyone around with their giant army!' But I suppose I wouldn't count target practice against natives throwing spears from their canoes either.
Those pygmies with their damn deadly fruits, always antagonizing the poor British Empire. I hear those savages even had sharpened mangoes! The British barely made it out alive. *Rowan Atkinson voice.* (For the record, I do not hate you at all Jingles. I watch your videos and I am happy for your success and the fact that you are very happy in life now, especially with Rita and Boo and everything, you're living almost a dream and I am very happy for you and that you are making videos. :) I also made a comment thanking you for not putting that 'well the Hood just got hit by a lucky shot' bull-crap most people pull when recounting the battle. Just seems the British love to romanticize that entire Rule-Britannia period as Britain being a peace-keeping force rather than a 'don't even try to rebel or raise the price of tea' fleet. As an American, take your tea and stuff it. Glad you are a coffee man. :P Also take it with a grain of salt, America basically does for oil what those islands would do for tea/spices. History repeats itself, after all.)
P.S. Despite how imperialist it is, I think Rule Britannia is one of the most badass songs to have as a war/national song. I'm just a history realist when it comes to some of these things.
You are an idiot. He makes a video about a ship and you make it imperialism. Maybe if you knew history you would know that half a century before America reluctantly banned slavery, the British Empire had already done it and was patrolling the world to put an end to the slave trade. I'm British, I take pride in the Empire and what it accomplished and contributed to the world. If that triggers you, deal with it.
finally got around to watching this, I bought some model ships from a second hand shop a year ago, still haven't put them together yet but I have these ones: HMS HOOD, HMS VICTORIOUS, the TIRPITZ and a UH-60A black hawk
Another nice one! Great video, thanks. Soldiers and sailors are tasked, trained and tooled to beat the previous enemy and the newer commanders are given overcome that. I've thought about this and I suspect I partly understand why. I guess, history is known but the future is only partially guessed, so one must prepare in that way. This thinking is hard on the boys.
I hear echoes of Mr. Geoffrey Regan's 'Great Naval Blunders' in your enjoyable intro to the Hood Jingles. Thanks for recommending that book many videos ago. I enjoyed it thoroughly.
I've found that at the beginning of the battle, the Hoods AA is formidable. But taking HE spam quickly knocks those rockets out. By the latter half of the battle, they are usually out of action and you are again equipped with mediocre AA.
Wet and damp living conditions. My god the hood was the most british ship ever built.
and it got even damper for the hood ...
Outright dank humor, that.
No wonder the British took it personally and blew up in rage when Hood dies a gruesome death, that ship was too relatable.
Splish spash
Biggest submarine in the navy lad
01:14 "And yes, that is the Bismarck in the background"
Caught me off guard lol
Bismarck: *soon*
@@Lgs260495 a fellow man of culture.
That Bismarck be like: wait I've destroyed you
Wait, so the Hood was meant to fix the problem of British battlecruisers exploding after catching shells from battleship-sized guns?
Oh the irony.
Technology marches on. And 1,400 Jack Tars paid the price for re-learning that lesson.
the problem at jutland was bypassing the safety procedures specifically designed to stop flash fires making it to the magazines, they were propping safety doors open with bags of cordite!!!!! guess what happened repeatedly?
flash fires made it straight to the magazines causing several ships to do what hood did!!! :( beatty had several thousand sailors deaths on his hands the bastard!
@@Scoobydcs Blame FISHER for the design and BEATTY & the Admiralty for their 'Trafalgar' mentality. What was the way a Captain was chosen - how well turned out the ship was NOT, repeat NOT for the primary function - naval gunnery. The Hood was a 22 year old ship with buggered engines and poor protection against plunging fire. Admittedly the Bismarck's shot was a fortunate hit but the design flaws in protection existed from day one and were never addressed.
@@markwalton3706 kinda, yes hood was vulnerable to plunging fire and the captain knew it, thats why he was trying to close on bimark asap then turn broadside to present the decent belt armour, she was hit DURING that turn!
hood was also due a refit to increase the deck armour in exactly that area too, never happened because she was always off around the world interwar.
Where’s the irony? I don’t see any well placed iron in any advantageous position. Oh irony as in irony
"That's the Bismark behind me. Don't read too much into it." Oh you can't fool me... I know ALL about it.
Jingles, an aside here based on the British battlecruisers being lost at Jutland due to lax damage control and powder handling procedures - back in the late 70's/early 80's after I entered the USN, we were still using damage control equipment and procedures that had been developed during WWII and the 1950's - to be fair, that equipment had been proven in combat and had served us well enough for what the USN had faced up until that time.
Then came the Falklands War (during which time I was stationed at Holy Loch). The USN took a long hard look at what the Royal Navy had to endure in that war, and at our own equipment and procedures. In mid 1983, when I returned to the US and duty on one of our first Trident submarines, I found that they had done a complete overhaul and update of our damage control equipment and procedures - thermal imagers, firefighting suits, flash protection clothing, updated breathing apparatus, etc, etc - it was like they had done a time warp from the 1950's straight to the 1980's.
For myself, I believe those of us who have served in the USN owe a debt of gratitude, to the men and women of the Royal Navy who served in that war - we learned from what they had to endure, and it has probably saved untold lives in the USN in the intervening years.
really? i read an old history book on WW1 (fuck me why did i say world war 2) i thought battlcruisers couldn't take a hit unlike those of battleships that why they lost
To be honest, that was the accepted "reason" for many decades. However, in the past few years, they've located many of the wrecks from the Battle of Jutland, including the battlecruisers, and sent down divers to investigate. What they found was as Jingles stated in this video - flash doors left open, powder and shells stacked in the turrets and passageways, all because of the mantra of achieving as high of a rate of fire as possible - they threw their own safety procedures to the wind, and it came back and bit them squarely in the ass. It's also come to light in recent years that the Admiralty KNEW this was the primary reason for the loss of those ships - and that many careers would be ruined if this came to light - so any report even hinting at this was buried, and the "lack of armor" mantra was the public face put on the reason for their loss. You can find the documentaries, where divers examined the wrecks of the battlecruisers, here on youtube.
Really a bit of both explanations. Yes, the catastrophic explosions were largely due to improper powder storage/handling and lax safety procedures, as you described. However, it was only the relatively thin armor of the British battlecruisers which allowed the German shells to reach that improperly handled powder to detonate it.
Even though the British BCs' strongest armor was on the turrets and barbettes (as with most warships), that was still no more than 7 inches (Invincible and Indefatigable) or 9 inches (Queen Mary) thick: simply not enough to resist the 11- or 12-inch shells of the German BCs. In contrast, the Queen Elizabeth-class battleships had between 10 and 13 inches of armor over the same areas. So while the QEs undoubtedly shared in at least some of the lax powder handling and safety practices as the BCs, they survived their numerous hits at Jutland because they had enough armor to keep the German shells away from the vulnerable powder. Both the weak armor and the lax powder handling of the battlecruisers (at Jutland) was required to bring about their catastrophic loss; where only one problem or the other was present, as in the QEs, the ships survived.
A bit different in the case of the Hood, though. As far as we know, the Hood did not employ lax powder handling at Denmark Strait, and was destroyed by a direct hit to a magazine (whether it was a 4-inch or a 15-inch magazine is still debatable). In her case, her armor did have distinct flaws that reflected normal practice at the time she was designed, which weren't adequately addressed during her construction or service, and proved fatal when sent up against a far more modern vessel.
Not just the Battle of Jutland but WWI as a whole was just a mess of incompetent leadership and poor planning largely due to commanders on both sides refusing to change strategy despite the rapid advance in technology and infrastructure.
you can complain all you want about america but there is one thing they are good at; its war. lel
Eternal Father is such a fitting ending to this episode. It's the US Navy's hymn too. It always brings a tear to my eyes. Over 1400 men went down with this ship...
And when at length her course is run,
Her work for home and country done,
Of all the souls that in her sailed
Let not one life in thee have failed;
But hear from heaven our sailor's cry,
And grant eternal life on high!
Be well, Jingles, and thanks for this episode.
Thanks Tuberaider. My sentiments also. A fitting epilogue to this video. Eternal Father is very special.
Eternal
Father
(Navy Hymn - First Verse
and Mariners Verse) Eternal Father, strong to
save,
Whose arm hath bound the restless wave,
Who bidd'st the mighty ocean deep
Its own appointed limits keep,
O hear us when we cry to thee
For those in peril on the sea!
Lord, stand beside all those
who sail
Our merchant ships in storm and gale,
In peace and war their watch they keep
On every sea, on thy vast deep.
Be with them, Lord, by night and day,
For Merchant Mariners we pray.
My uncle served on the Hood, fortunately for him he transferred to submarines just before the fateful last battle. I would have bought this even if it was a floating turd, glad to hear you t isn't. Great job, Jingles!
MrPnhartley the ship is a turd , but jingles doesn't speak out about this stuff anymore . as he is friends with some of the devs and gets free stuff . a bb with worse krupp than the tier 5 nickolarse dd . sigma that undershoots all the time . can't pen 305mm of armour , oh most tier 6,7,8,9 have 305 or more belt armour. mm is bb heavy so you can delete the 3 cruisers that will be in mm and that's it bb and dds the rest of the way . her aa rockets are good but only have 200hp each . tier 5 dd guns will one shoot each of those rockets even with preventative maintenance . sorry for the long post but the state hood is in now she is a turd!!!! and i'm not a hater i waited since obt for rn . but looking at this i waited for nothing good
Someone is a bit asshurt
MrPnhartley just disappointed ! a bb that has to aim for other bbs superstructure and not the water line for fear of broken shells . the new tier 6 RN dd has nearly 2400 krupp , hood has less than 2150 . so dds shells shatter less than a bbs big guns . if you think that's acceptable then that's up to you . i'm from glasgow my whole family has worked on the ship yard that built her . i have a model of her on my mantel , i don't need a digital port decoration . but yes i'm disappointed , if they can do this to the hood then what do you think they will do to the lesser known of our bbs . id rather not know
Nove Seth lol think you should check the na server !! hood is being sold in only one package . nearly 80 pound lol no ship only pack just the 80 pound one lol . WAIST OF CASH
My grandfather was due to serve on the Titanic. Orders changed at the last minute...
When you need Colonisation to sail at 32 knots!
Just call it colonisation express.
when you need atlatic slave trade to go at 32 knots you mean.
@@FanEAW sure, but british were the one that stoped the atlantic slave trade.
@@EzioDeCreeper they didnt stop it, they banned slave trading and the atlantic slave trade continued for a further 60 years after that.
@@FanEAW They have actively went after slave trader ships. They would stop search and take over ships of any nation they suspected of slavery. They would raid african shore slave trading outposts. And to my knowelage said "fuck you, fight me." to any nation that complained about it.
Look up the British West Africa Squadron.
I would like to have jingles as a history teacher.
Me too
If he did hundreds more children would have actually learned something
I guess i'll be buying the HMS Hood too. Hopefully this decision doesn't blow up in my face...
Stay smart- Bismarck.
Invitation to party in the denmark strait, or rather... the bottom of it
Cameron McAllister tirpitz sunk after the Bismarck
you bought it with money but I bought it for free, it just gave me the hood in the mail, I also got Kaga, Atlanta and (I don't know what was that destroyer) but they look premium
*insert highly original joke about Bismarck blowing up the Hood*
What about a highly original joke of the Dorsetshire sinking the Bismarck?
Admiral Lütjens be like: "Where da Hood, where da Hood, where da Hood at?!"
+Tarix819 Bismarck was scuttled, you muppet
+Mark Hermens It is unclear on how the Bismarck was sunk, but since it sank right after Dorsetshire torpedoed it, i'd say that you're the muppet. Why would they scuttle a ship that would be useless to the Royal Navy anyway? It was so heavily damaged and so far away from land it would be pointless trying to tow it to shore and repair it.
Mark Hermens In the professional opinion of Robert Ballard, Bismarck was a gonner regardless :)
I remember seeing a documentary on UA-cam where they went looking for the Hood's wreckage with a remote-controlled submarine launched from a science ship; after they found it, they went back with the last Hood survivor who at that point was still alive. They actually seemed to reach some conclusions on how exactly she had exploded and whether her captain was at fault; they concluded that he had done all he could have done right.
A problem not mentioned by Jingles here was that the Hood was due to be uparmoured further; her front half had been taken good care of but her rear half was still weak. And that rear half uparmouring had been postponed and postponed, because the Hood was constantly being paraded around the world like a rock star in the 1930's, right up until the point where the war started and she was needed in action.
Or so I remember it from this documentary anyway.
Jingles moment? 10:14 "... the Royal Navy had ... been a peace time navy for the previous 200 years..."
Whether you count the time from 200 years previous to Jutland or 200 years before WW2, you still have the Seven Years War, the American Revolutionary War (where Admiral Hood got famous enough for a ship to be named after him), the Napoleonic Wars (incl. Trafalgar), the War of 1812, the Crimean War, the Opium Wars, the Battle of Navarino and countless incidents of gunboat diplomacy. I don't think the Navy's gun barrels got to cool down before Jutland :)
Oh well, back to the salt mines.
Jingles history vs actual history.
Britain: Finally I promise you the *UNSINKABLE* HMS Hood.
Germany: mmmmmmmmm how about no.
Britain: How about yes
Bismarck: Let's stick with no.
B Valera fairy Swordfish: Nah, it’s a yes chief
Britain: We will chase you down with the Hood and corner you with the unsinkable HMS Rodney.
Germany: mmmmmm how about no.
Britain: Hmmm. That didn't work. But we will hunt you down with our aircraft carriers and slow you.
Bismark: oh, oh.
Britain: May we introduce you to the HMS Rodney. Don't let her smaller size fool you.
Bismark: We will fight to the last shell.... oh, bugger. Ouch. Ouch. Ouch.
Fun Fact: Bismarck had the exact same problem that doomed Hood:
*Crappy deck armor*
@@whateverthisis389 angry german noises
@@whateverthisis389*"You fool! German Engineering is the best in the world!"*
-Silly Mustache Man
Despite never having played any of these games, you make these videos so entertaining to watch, I feel like I don't have to have played them to enjoy your content.
TheKazragore You must be clueless about what hes on abouf during reviews
TheKazragore I used to play WoWS, eventually got to Tier 7 in the American cruiser and destroyer line, but I eventually got a bit tired of the grind and raging at my teammates.
I still watch Jingles' videos, especially when he gets to nerd out over a ship like HMS Hood.
Not really. I've played enough games and I'm widely read enough that I can understand most of what he's talking about.
TheKazragore I know what you mean. I haven't played wow yet, but I do want to. However, these videos are so interesting to watch that I don't even have to play the game to enjoy it. I do play a mobile warship game called battle of warships tho
Royal Navy: The HMS Hood is the pride of the Royal Fleet!
Bismark: How Cute.
WoWS narrator to HMS Hood: MAGAZINE BLOWN UP!
Wow! Thank you. Your commentary was very informative. It really gave me some perspective on the British Navy from 1915-1939. I myself am a veteran of the United States Air Force, four years military and thirty-nine years as a civilian employee. Again, respectfully, thank you.
"Doesn't react well to explosions" - you should have said that in your Sean Connery voice :)
That's from The Hunt For Red October, isnt it? I cant actually remember
@@potatolord5827 almost, he says “most things in here don’t react too well to bullets”
Many might not know this. But as the Hood's bow was sinking. The forward turret fired a final salvo at the Germans before it sank. Some think it was the turret exploding. While others claim that the doomed crew inside it fired. Sometimes I think at that very moment. Somehow, the Hood itself had fired the turret before it sank. It was as if she fought until the bitter end.
Nigtcreature18 “you bloody Krauts! I know that if you have us a square 10km battle is sink ya down right!”
Couldve been that they had just reloaded the forward turret's guns when she went up. At that point, anything couldve fired the guns quickly.
That final song/prayer moves me like Taps does, being a retired US Naval Officer.
100 years of peace, my gnomish overlord, not 200. Trafalgar was in 1805 and that's when the Royal Navy's great era pomp and circumstance started,- assuming you don't count things like the naval campaign of the Crimea or Opium Wars. 18th century has victories and actions like the Glorious First of June, the Battle of the Nile, the Battle of Quiberon Bay and Wager's Action, to name a few. 18th century is what cemented British Naval prestige and paved the way for Britain's imperial century.
Now I'm going to head back to the salt mines :)
Iohannes S. “With the brief interlude of WWI” he’s talking about Trafalgar to modern-day
1805 is the 19th not 18th century
Hood was not sunk because of her deck armor. The angle of ship and fall of the shell meant her belt armor was most likely penetrated, as her deck armor was extremely unlikely to be penetrated from that range.
That history lesson at the beginning of the video was amazing! It was really coherent and the cause and effect relationships were excellently described.
I enjoy pretty much every single video Jingles makes, but these ship videos with the historical element do hold a special place in my heart.
I find them very enjoyable.
Why is the Hood not getting her historical torpedo armament? With Mutsu in the game, we know that it would be possible.
TheFellowSheep same reason tgere is no tier 7 tb
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the torpedo mounts were submerged and wargaming has spoken and confirmed that they will not implement submerged torpedo mounts in-game., hope this helps answer your question :)
TheFellowSheep Im pretty sure the last time the British Upgraded the Hood, they removed the Torpedo Tubes.
+MR 499 No they're not really submerged. They're these 2 "windows" at each of her sides. www.hmshood.com/ship/torpside.jpg
Jingles even mentioned them in the video at 23:12.
Yes, I have done some more in-depth research and have found that the 2 torpedo tubes near the A turret? were submerged however the 4 near to the back were window mounted as you stated above, anywho I need some rest
I’m probably a little late to the party on this but, great job on the point about Royal Navy captains in this period. It was really interesting to hear how much priorities of captains had changed from battle readiness to ship cleanliness. It was a really interesting discussion and I loved it, thanks for including it in the video
I can't imagine the horror the rest of the navy felt when they saw their 'unsinkable' flagship explode. RIP to all the brave sailors that died in the war.
Nobody ever claimed Hood to be unsinkable, she was far less armoured than the King George V class that accompanied her. Hell, HMS Warspite was more armoured than her.
"The British battlecruisers exploded in such spectacular and catastrophic fashion whenever they were hit by German battleship caliber shells" ... Why does that sound familiar? :P
Larry Fontenot it was old when it fought Bismarck
YAMATO
@@lewistaylor2858 she might of won if she wasnt hit in the magazines but not so sure there isnt no comparision to say. it probably would of been difficult.
The great one up-loads a video 1min ago. Drop everything, and watch.
Jingles, thanks so much for this video. I think the ending you attached is a fitting tribute to all who sailed in HMS Hood, and the sacrifice they made.
My Grandad would have been on the Hood during the Battle of Denmark Strait, but he was in Haslar Hospital, and was invalided out of the RN.
17:20 Yanno, the way you explained how the UP rockets worked (AMAZING explanation BTW! I had yet to look up the real life specs) I can imagine that up close, and well manned, they COULD have been absolutely devastating!
Hood's demise was very different from Battlecruisers that were sank during the battle of Jutland. At jutland it has been discovered that improper stowage and handling of the cordite was the reason they were exploding left and right. Hood as you said suffered a perfect hit from plunging fire and resulted in the perfect storm of naval combat.
Hate to say this but the Royal Navy should have never sent a 20 yr old Battle Cruiser to handle a full on modern Battleship...regardless of intel. And yes they were well aware of Bismark by that time and had enough details to know they needed more ships. They were brave sailors however, balls of steel in my opinion, regardless of pride every one of them were pretty sureas soon as they found Bismark their numbers were up.
What else would they do, send a non-shaken down KGV on its own? Let Bismark do what it wanted without facing it? Anyone can have bad luck, Hood was no different than any other, they took a calculated risk, it didn't work (though in the long run it did since Bismarck was also destroyed), happens in war.
Wolfchacer she was also the only ship in range of the Bismarck and the eugan with the assistance of two crusers and the prince of Wales she was sent there to slow down the Bismarck in order for the home fleet to get in range to hit the Bismarck
You fight a war with what you have, not what you wish you had.
The RN had many capital ships but had to cover several access points to the Atlantic. The Hood and PoW got assigned the Denmark Straight.
Hood was heavily armored, to the same thickness as Bismarck in terms of belt armour although thinning out more quickly. It was a very good ship considering it had been cruising the world's oceans for 20 years before Bis was even built. As for PoW, well, they were still building her on the way to the fight.
Alexander Kerensky Not obsolete, gets one-shot
@@artificialgravitas8954 it was still a very capable ship that posed a true threat to the Bismarck this wasn't sending a boys ATR out to engage a tiger.
This is an excellent vid - learnt more than in many warship documentaries I have watched. Well done.
"you can't polish a turd"
Well actually Jingles, Mythbusters has proven otherwise
Thank you for your historical explanations at the beginning concerning the ship and the executive officers promotions. That explains lots of things! Thank you!
FAST BATTLESHIP !!! Hood had similar armour to the QE class. Actually Hood's keel was relaid due to lessons learned at Jutland.
@Brian Roome The British may have called her BC at the time but considering she had several improvements over the QE class, most modern historians such as Anthony Preston believe the term fast battleship is more accurate. As for superior German sailors, there is little to no evidence of that. For example British gunnery at Jutland was far more accurate than that of the HSF. Personally the one time I sailed in a small boat with a German coxswain he almost sank us, luckily I actually knew what I was doing.
That is so awesome you served your country in the Navy for 22 years! God bless you Jingles!
Rewatching this on a slow day.... Did you really just say he (Hood) has a finely shaped as$??? 😂😂😂 oh, my Jangles...
I actually just read something on Hood only a week ago. It's believed that her Starboard Fuel Tanks also caught fire and exploded. The Hood's wreckage has been found, long ago, and according to what was discovered, it is entirely possible that more exploded inside her than just ammo.
Come on everyone, let's sing Heats of Oak, "Come, cheer up, my lads, ''tis to glory we steer,"
To honor we call you, as freemen not slaves.
For who are so free as the sons of the waves?
Hearts of Oak are our ships,Jolly tars our are men!, we always are ready,steady boys steady..
Great review Master Jingles! I'd like to make a suggestion. One thing we can all agree on around here is that we love listening to you talk about history. You used to end some Mingles w/Jingles a while back with a short talk about certain lesser known heroes of their era. I want to put out there we'd love a monthly'ish series where you just talk about a certain battle, vessel/tank, or commander. Call it something that reflects it's a history lesson. But with Jingles, so it'll be awesome. :)
I'll keep posting this so you eventually see it. Maybe others can help with reminders if they like the idea. (nicely guys) Cheers all!
i had "sink the Bismark" running in the background.
jeova0sanctus0unus The Bismarck was the size of a damn so no not really
Dilawar Ahmed too bad the hood is longer.
In Soviet Russia Bismarck sinks you!
In May of 1941, the war had just begun
Yes
One of the best vids yet - loved the ending.
While he was talking about how biased he was about RN ships a Bismarck appeared right behind him.... 1:15
Nice touch at the end Jingles. As always, absolutely loved the history lesson.
Yamato was only 1 meter longer than the Hood.
just for scale.
But the Hood is really narrow though...
daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn son thats a loooooooooooong ship
The brits could have made early Yamato if they proceeded with 18 inch guns
A fitting Tribute to those who fell. Well done Jingles, premium quality as always!
Jingles as an American I normally find your videos a refreshing change from the childish banter I'm use to in the NA server. This video was no different. You even said you were going to be Bias to British ships and still managed to stay objective and on point about the Hood, a ship I'm very much looking forward too. Not only that you managed to make a quality video showing the strengths and weakness of the ship in combat and even managed to give some helpful tips for newer players on how to battleship. So from the southern side of the US, Good on you sir. Good Luck, and fair seas.
PwnyDwn there are only 2 ships of the royal navy people will get biased about, those are the Warspite and the Hood. As it stands this video is reasonably unbiased for opinions on the Hood, she did have serious and obvious in hindsight shortcomings but for the era she was designed she was a pretty damn good ship and did deserve the title of most powerful ship in the world in 1920 when she was finished
Absolutely Outstanding Presentation, Mr Jingles. First class.
Out of the cold and foggy night came the British ship the Hood,
And The Mighty Jingles, he knew and understood
He may not sink the Bismarck, or stop enemy planes
But he could send their cruiser force below the briny waves
He'll sail the British battleship that's making such a fuss
He sails the HMS Hood cause his wallet depends on us
So hit the decks a'runnin scrubs, and spin those guns around!
Cause when the Gnome says fire, we gotta make 'em pound!
This is comedy gold
@@kitandrewa8866 Yep
I'm probably not the only one, but I really enjoy the historical information that you supplement your commentary with, even the little things like the aquatic living conditions. Keep up the great work, Admiral!
"Roll on the Rodney, the Nelson, the Renown,
But you can't have the Hood because the good ship went down"
i had to stop. i've seen documentaries, vids, wikipedia, and best of all your explanation of the rearmoring and shell fusing. i suspected the bismarck's ww2 era shells impacting hood's ww1 deck armor, but your lesson just blew me away! (see what i did there) 21 years USN here. thanks for the excellent vid!
The family had Hearts of Oak played at my Father's funeral.Normandy and Burma Star medals. Miss you Dad. X
Hood is definitely the prettiest naval vessel I’ve ever seen. I put it ahead of the Iowa class. Since I’m American, I’ve seen Iowa, and it’s a great ship.
Battlecruisers are always in the BB line in world of warships. Myogi or Amagi are battlecruisers for example. This makes sense because battlecruisers are capital sips, they are battleships with weaker armor to gain more speed (for the royal navy at least).
Battlecruisers are NOT heavy cruisers with bigger guns.
Graf Spee is a cruiser in WWoWS because it was a Heavy Cruiser in reality, just one with an unusual main armament layout. The germans classified them as heavy cruisers in 1940, the allies always did. While heavier than a "treaty"cruiser, Graff spee displaced less than the Admiral Hipper or other later Heavy Cruisers and it has nowhere near the displacement of a Battlecruiser.
With only 6x 11 inch guns it also does not have battleship armament. It was build at a time were new battleships had 8-9 16 inch guns.
There's another thing about (most) battlecruisers that makes them distinct from plain cruisers in this game: they were much bigger than ordinary cruisers. I think it's safe to say that ships like the Kongo and the Hood handle much more like battleships than cruisers, and would have had similar amenities, and that's probably a big part of why they're classified as such in-game.
I do miss these historical takes on ships. I mean, you might have completely run out of interesting ships that were actually in combat, but if you hadn't - I think it'd be awesome if you did these again :)
Excellent review, appreciate the historical context especially your points on pre-Jutland gunnery philosophy (i.e. rapid fire at any cost) and post Jutland lessons learned impacts on the Hood's design.
*HMS Hood has joined the server*
*Bismarck has joined the server*
*HMS Hood has left the server*
K/M Bismarck I think
gotta love jingles' patriotism
from one serbice member to another love your vids man.
The Battlecruiser concept proved to be a bad one.
They were originally intended to run down raiding enemy cruisers. Then more roles were heaped on them as time went on. Scouts and screens for the Battleship fleets, etc.
When used in their original purpose, the BCs had success. As happened at the 1914 Battle of the Falkland Islands, running down and destroying raiding German cruisers. But even then the Admiralty didn't really want to send their BCs to do that job, because they wanted to keep them with the main Battleship fleets and use them more like BBs. As they found out at Jutland, duels against other ships with battleship sized guns wasn't something they were good at, especially against a properly armored Battleship. A failure of doctrine/use.
Hi Jingles, I think this is one of your best videos you've done nice tough at the end
when you build a ship to fight the last war....... so it´s TOG II* of the sea? =)
the TOG II* *IS* of the sea m8, meaning its an amphibious Tonk! It can also do stuff and THANGS!
Not really it is basically a WWI ship it was laid down before 1916 and launched in 1918 but not conditioned until 1920.
The Dunkerque had armor that could withstand the fire from 3 of Germany's 5 Battleships. She wasn't build to fight the last war, she was built to fight a new breed of ship, the Pocket Battleship. But given so many of Germany's battleships had 11in guns, the Dunkerque remained relevant on paper at least. She just wouldn't be able to withstand the Bismarck-class, or Littorio-class Battleships. I can't fault the Hood's design, she was built in an earlier era facing a brand new mega ship. It would be like a Colorado class Battleship facing a Yamato-class.
How is the the Dunkerque even remotely comparable? For one thing as most people like to forget, the Hood is a battlecruiser, whilst the Dunkerque is a Battleship. And the Hood was launched in 1918 whilst the Dunkerque was launched in 1935. They are literally generations apart in ship design.
Silly comment.
Dunkerque was a Battlecruiser Richelieu Was a Battleship.
Jingles I learned more from your concise and clear commentary about the Hood and why the ships were so vulnerable then anything I've seen on T.V or UA-cam. You should make your own documentary about the History of the Royal Navy. The bizarre paint schemes of the Victorian navy makes sense to me now!!
I find it hilarious that people only ever correct jingles over minor details rather than compliment him for his videos, personaly I don't ready care if he makes a mistake, sure if he says something wrong I think ummm accually jingles, but I don't bother typing it 'cause he knows it him self, he edits the fucking video, welp that's my rant, good view and have a nice day
Who knows if he doesn't put these mistakes on purpose just to troll us?
Well said :P
Jarrett IceEarthGuard it's true though, people only care about his mistakes,.But not the content, cuz they get butthurt when a stranger says something wrong, like what
Just noticed I'm in my alt account XD
yeah i think he puts mistakes on purpose too
it builds up the reputation (promote is a better word) of dont believe anything you see or hear on the internet just do some research yourselves
Been waiting to long for you to do this video old man! Thank you dude
History lesson over? Jingles - I am disapoint.
I expected a 3 hour video covering just the History alone
Now that you mention it, I do need to binge every Hardcore History episode again...
Great ending, I'm an old US Navy guy as well who also really enjoyes WWII history. Sad story of the hood but thanks for honoring the sailors who died. Fair Winds and Following Seas.
"Look up in the sky! Is it a bird? Is it a plane?"
Funnily enough, that's also what the captain of the Hood said in his last moments.
The crew of hood would have never believed they would be honoured in game 80 years later. They will live forever
Just putting it out there; my second name is Hood!🙋🏼♂️ I also have a to-scale model of this mighty ship in my bedroom.
1:1 scale? Must be quite a big room
I think the Model *IS* his room.
Piers Groube if he was a wot fan than I thin the model IS-3 his room
Flute Sax Synth You were named after a boat. Not sure if i should be impressed or laugh
Federico Di Liberto why would you have an is3 model.....
Only problem i have with Hood is that its classified as BB. In my opinion there should be a teir line for battlecruisers, like Invincible, Hood, and Alaska
Still waiting on Italian ships...
the duca d'aosta is in game so you don't have to wait.
GrizzlyMC no, he wants the Roma.
I wouldn't bother. They will only switch side every 2 mins.
GrizzlyMC Fuck yeah! Floating pizzas shooting pasta!
Oreo Saurus I'm Italian , an is floating pasta whit pizza loded guns made of the best Sicily cannoli, and the innovative imps paper armor that ensures that a shell before making an impact whit the ship had to go through 8 years of italian bureaucracy , good luck whit that
Great review as always Jingles, I watch these and use your recommendation's, they work out quite well for me!
What's wrong with Hearts of Oak? I for one think that Jingles should play it very loudly before, after and during all of his videos.
Really enjoyed this video. especially the history of the HMS Hood. I always thought it was a flash from one of her own guns that exploded her magazine. My Grandfather was a pilot in the fleet Air Arm during this conflict. A couple of his classmates from Dartmouth, perished with her. Anyway great video.
So the reason why Hood sank was because it was a tier 7 and the Bismarck was a tier 8?
UNFAIR AF
RIL has terrible matchmaking, it's always had it.
My deepest respect to you sir, and your 22 years of service to your countrymen. I served 22 years, US Army Infantry, retiring in 2010. I salute you sir !
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just make sure that the hood never sees the Bismarck and if you do run away.
Very Well Educated Running from big ass German shells is preettty hard
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The problems is the hood are too huge and longer than the bismarck
Very Well Educated
It couldn't if taken the Bismark but it was firing at Prince Oigein
Nice vid Jingles! Thanks for the ship review, glad the Hood will finally be added to the game.
Actually Jingles the Graf Spee took on the British cruiser squadron in 1939, not 1940.
*Cocks shotgun*
Hi Jingles, l just bought the Hood and wanted to learn more about her. You did a great job on this! Thanks.
today Norway is celebrating it's constitutional day. 17. may. happy birthday Norway
Which is also a Semi-holiday for us Swedes who work in norway... Cheers
Skal vi danse?
TheBfredrik thanks bro. Apreciate it!
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Thanks for the shout out! Gratulerer med dagen:-)
This guy knows his shit!!! When I can watch a gaming video and learn something, my hats go off to him. Only comment though, she only was able to achieve her 31+ knot speed during a brief period of her life and wasn't really able to achieve it again. Even during the destruction of the French Fleet she should have been able to run down and destroy the French battleship that was able to get out of the harbor but she was spitting out sparks from her funnel and after 2 hours of trying to catch up, Hood gave up the chase. From what I've read she never really got the total engine overhaul she desperately needed. Maybe a small one but not a complete one. I just don't see how Britain could've considered her the "Pride of the Royal Navy" when they didn't take care of her. The RN knew she needed to be modernized but the excuse "other priorities" always took president. She truly was an absolutely beautiful ship. Nice lines and the fact that she belonged to the most badass navy in the world at the time made her that much more an important part of naval history.
HMS Hood would/will not be the only/first showpiece to have only showpiece maintenance instead of needed maintenance.
Seemen ship se...men ship
Ummmm... jingles error 404 maturity not doing
29:53 HMS Vanguard (23) had a huge square backside.
I think (?) it was the only battleship in British naval service to feature such.
Jingles you bloody bufoon. That s not the turtleback you re showing on the scharnrost... The citadel of the Hood is barely considered turtleback. It s pretty standard, eventough it sits very low near the water level
There is no official definition of 'Turtleback armour' it is used to describe angled armour that protects a citadel, the thickness or angle of such armour is not specified. It was used in many warships, even pre-dreadnoughts. It's not just a mythical super armour that only imbued the Germany navy.
it is turtleback
I think the first ship to have turtleback was HMS Dreadnought.... so yeah no kraut magic, just an outdated armour scheme (by 1940's anyway, not in 1906 obv.)
Yea but the Germans obviously improved that armor scheme for their battleships & cruisers. Nagato also has a "turtle back" armor scheme, but we all know it's pretty easy to citadel, because the plate is not low enough & is at a very flat angle.
In real life it was probably completely useless, because you would have to decrease the armor thickness at some other vital parts like the turret fronts, but in world of warships it's very effective.
TheFellowSheep irl it was less effective, radar gunnery improved so drastically during the 1930's and 40's that long range shots were not a possibility, they were a probability. It made turtle back obsolete.
Hi
I'm not a gamer, but a fan of military and naval history.
My uncle was a stocker on the Hood, not one of the 3 survivors.
So I really enjoyed your video.
Especially the part about the cleanliness of the ship being a reason for bad gunnery.
'The british Navy Had been a peace time Navy for around 200 years.'
Yup, that's the good old British selective-memory at work again. 'The British Empire was about peace, not like these oil-hungry warlike Americans bullying everyone around with their giant army!'
But I suppose I wouldn't count target practice against natives throwing spears from their canoes either.
"Aside from a few brief but violent interludes like the First World War". Yeah, that's the old Jingles-hating selective memory at work again.
Those pygmies with their damn deadly fruits, always antagonizing the poor British Empire. I hear those savages even had sharpened mangoes! The British barely made it out alive. *Rowan Atkinson voice.*
(For the record, I do not hate you at all Jingles. I watch your videos and I am happy for your success and the fact that you are very happy in life now, especially with Rita and Boo and everything, you're living almost a dream and I am very happy for you and that you are making videos. :) I also made a comment thanking you for not putting that 'well the Hood just got hit by a lucky shot' bull-crap most people pull when recounting the battle. Just seems the British love to romanticize that entire Rule-Britannia period as Britain being a peace-keeping force rather than a 'don't even try to rebel or raise the price of tea' fleet. As an American, take your tea and stuff it. Glad you are a coffee man. :P Also take it with a grain of salt, America basically does for oil what those islands would do for tea/spices. History repeats itself, after all.)
Fair enough. Coffee is for winners! ;)
P.S. Despite how imperialist it is, I think Rule Britannia is one of the most badass songs to have as a war/national song. I'm just a history realist when it comes to some of these things.
You are an idiot. He makes a video about a ship and you make it imperialism. Maybe if you knew history you would know that half a century before America reluctantly banned slavery, the British Empire had already done it and was patrolling the world to put an end to the slave trade. I'm British, I take pride in the Empire and what it accomplished and contributed to the world. If that triggers you, deal with it.
finally got around to watching this, I bought some model ships from a second hand shop a year ago, still haven't put them together yet but I have these ones: HMS HOOD, HMS VICTORIOUS, the TIRPITZ and a UH-60A black hawk
Thanks for your service. My brother did 20 year's in the American army. I understand the sacrifice.
Another nice one! Great video, thanks. Soldiers and sailors are tasked, trained and tooled to beat the previous enemy and the newer commanders are given overcome that. I've thought about this and I suspect I partly understand why. I guess, history is known but the future is only partially guessed, so one must prepare in that way. This thinking is hard on the boys.
Always a pleasure Jingles. I was just about to go to sleep, but I couldn't wait until the morning once I saw you post this.
I hear echoes of Mr. Geoffrey Regan's 'Great Naval Blunders' in your enjoyable intro to the Hood Jingles. Thanks for recommending that book many videos ago. I enjoyed it thoroughly.
Jingles: I'm going to give you awesome history on an awesome ship as well as gameplay.
Me thinking of Bismark: I sawed this boat in half!
So the HMS Hood is basically the TOG II of ships? Built to fight in a war that's already over.
In that case she was In the same group of ships as the US Nevada, Pennsylvania, New Mexico, Tennessee and Colorado class battleships then......
I've found that at the beginning of the battle, the Hoods AA is formidable. But taking HE spam quickly knocks those rockets out. By the latter half of the battle, they are usually out of action and you are again equipped with mediocre AA.
Great video Jingles. I particularly loved the choir at the very end, very honorable touch sir