Not a speedrunner, but Snow Pea combines with Starfruit so well. Even so 20 Starfruit from Column 6 to 9 in Roof level kill a Football Zombie less than 5 Seconds.
2 forward side projectiles at the cost of barely 125 while you had to pay 200 for a repeater for 2 projectiles or 100 for a pea shooter to get a projectile. Starfruit is OP for its cost when not placed on the first or last row. Even then you get a backwards and a side ways projectile. No wonder it costs 175 sun in PvP mode while repeater costs 150 (console version).
It seems so weird to me to think that people speedran the game for many years before thinking "hey, what if we used starfruit?", because every time i played through the game I'd just use starfruits as soon as i got them because of how good they were when spammed. Of course, since all of them were casual playthroughs i never thought of how fast they could be and played safe using pumpkins and chompers, but it's nice to see that they are being used in speedruns now
I learned about how good Starfruit actually was from watching challenge runs like shyguymask! But since they were challenge runs (as opposed to speedruns) I also didn't think much of it. I'm glad the lil boi is getting the recognition he deserves now!!
I did actually propose a strategy for any% once which included cactus. Don't ask how, but part of the strategy (not the cactus part, but the general idea of it) did actually make its way to 5-1 in the form of peashooter + repeater
@@kozolith2121 Basically the idea was that instead of cabbage + repeater, you took cabbage + peashooter + cactus, all plants that have basically the same dps and cost, and effectively you would be able to juggle all three at once and be able to constantly plant firepower. The idea came from 1-7, where we're forced to use snow pea which is usually useless in speedruns, but it does occasionally get used to avoid peashooter cooldown. I do think that if we had cactus on a 2 flag, daytime, non-roof level then the strategy would have actually been good (although there's no reason not to use split pea instead, cactus was just funnier) but alas we do not live in that timeline. It did make me realise that peashooter + repeater was a really good strategy on 5-1 though.
Huh, I remember learning the power of starfruit when playing the AltVerz mod, I can't believe this wasn't found earlier for speedrunning- a cool feature about starfruit is that, since its projectiles span all the lanes, projectiles tend to target the zombies most ahead and push the zombies back- kind of acting like Cattail in that manner. I guess that also this front-zombie-targeting aspect kind of like a pseudo-instant, dealing with the zombie most ahead instead of even spread out damage across all lanes- making instas doing more overall damage to zombies in the backend
One thing that is intriguing for me is that this strategy is not found until 03/2023? (If I undertsand it right), after over 15 years and the there are still something new in PvZ. Truly an epic and classic game of all time.
Bonus starfruit footage - this is a really cool strategy used in pogo party shopless! ua-cam.com/video/heMa1NexUlY/v-deo.html Starfruit strats also have one very important thing over repeater: THEY'RE SO MUCH FUN
Oddly fitting how someone who's username contains the name of a Grass Type Pokemon helped shave off speedrunning time for Plants VS Zombies (as well as being the current record holder)
9:05 the funny thing is that on one of the mobile versions the star projectile hitbox is set behind for some reason, so the shotgun effect works on any zombie a tile behind rather than needing to be directly on starfruit
Weird choice to have a "before starfruit" section, but not mention what the records were. The discord screenshot at 4:56 was clearly supposed to be a "NANI?!" moment, but without any frame of reference for the previous times it just kinda falls flat.
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How starfruit changed sspeedrunning: People started using starfruit It saved some time I guess it deals a bit more damage and it's cheaper Here you have it folks, the 10 minute video condensed
I always liked that plant only because it would fill my screen with projectiles, and it was satisfacotry having multiple rows of starfruits filling the entire screen
Starfruit is a somewhat awkward plant to use, but honestly, after using it on said roof levels (and Vegezombies thinking it could dodge its attacks, then not reseting when the game defied logic) it kinda felt like a 125 nerfed Gloom shroom, unintuitive to use but very rewarding once you understand the angles it is shooting at, like using a 125 sun repeater in terms of DPS, who doesn't rely on Garlic/Pumpkin or torchwood but on instas in the early game because, just like the reed in PvZ2, it works best on groups to fill the screen with attacks.
Excellent watch, the time flew by and i now have a hunger for even pvz history from you in the future!! Starfruits are the startfruits of something amazing..,,
wait this revolution was as late as 2023? no wonder why shyguymask always said the plant is heavily underrated. like come on it's 5 projectiles with the cost efficency of scaredy shroom. work around the gimmick and it's amazing value for money.
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in speedrunning, people use the least expected thing and they end up doing better than other people
Well. Since the first time i played pvz, i think in the minigame where you must plant starfruit. And that's where i realized, how powerful starfruit is. 25% cost more from peashooter and you get? - double diagonal front attack - one backward - double up and down So much fire coverage for +25% cost. Good for early and mid game i guess.
I haven’t played pvz in years but I remember first thinking starfruit was terrible until I was like “well maybe if I just do MORE starfruit” and actually liked it. guess I was onto something. Favorite strats were still always cattail spam and corncob cannons
Weirdly, I frequently use starfruit not because of those speedrunner. It's because someguy on youtube "shyguymask" said this starfruit are S+ tier plant.
I think the reason why Starfruit is so underrated is because he was unlocked too late into the game, and generally the base game is already super easy to begin with. That's why when you decided to put your own restrictions or speedruns, his full potential is unlocked. For example, if he was unlocked during Night or early Pool levels, he would have been solid since he can be used more often in pool which is a massive advantage. But since he was unlocked at the end of Fog levels and the world after that is Roof, he doesn't get much usage. The only time you would actually use Starfruit is probably in mini games and some survivals, the former only had few stages while for the latter you would ended up saving for Gatling setups or Winter Melon setups.
This is exactly what happened. He's unlocked so late that you also have a pretty good idea of what you want your strategy to be in roof, and when you get to roof he's not even super new so you're not testing him out there either.
Starfruit I one of the very few plants I never used because I don’t like the shooting pattern and suns was never a problem and things like ice melons are just more fun to see
I've been using starfruit strat ever since I saw it on one of the challenges to just build starfruit on every lawn, it was totally shocking that time and I kept using it by the time, didn't know this was a thing now! LMAO
I like how YT randomly recommended me Videos of Random Things that I’m not really interested in, but i still watch the Videos and loved them. Great Video mate❤❤.
I exclusively always used starfruit because they always seemed to tear up the stages. Wish I knew there was a whole speed running community I could have shared my discovery with lol
Funny how i just beated the game using the starfruit strat on the roof levels even when i didnt even knew that it was an actual real strat, i just wanted a plant to fill my seeds bar and for a reason the starfruit attack pattern seemed good for the roof so i started using it just to try something different and it was really useful
Am glad that peeps are seeing the true potential of star fruit. Can never forget that my dad was the one who introduced its potential to me and was always his key plant in every mode and why he has a high streak on Zombie Endless Pool edition.
Funny that took them so long to discover the starfruit strat, starfruit on flat surface then a row or 2 of marigold is my gold farming hack without using purple plant
I knew it when I was playing that Starfruit minigame and was surprised how it was destroying everything when I got 1/2 of the needed Starfruit I had to put down
Huh. I just found this video. Did not know starfruit is highly regarded in the pvz community.. I mean.. this cute thing always becoming my staple since i play this game.. Why? The last fog stages when they gave you a ton of starfruit. I gave it a thought.. "this plant is neat" and just use it
Not gonna lie, if it weren't for this video popping up in my feed I would never have even thought about the concept of speedrunning pvz, this is wild to me lol
I Always Play With 2 Backrow Of Sunflowers And Then Pushed My Lanes Forward Early Game By Only Planting Sun And Potato Mines/Mimic PM. Farmed A Good Amount Of Sun To Start Placing 2 3-Shooters On Both The Top And Bottom Lane To Have Firepower Going Down Each Lane Before 1st Wave. This Would Get Me Through Pretty Quick To Then Just Upgrade My Backrow Of Sunflower To The Double Flowers And Remove My Second Flower Row For More 3Shooters As I Spam Them. Then I Found Out About Starfruit And Started Spamming Them Because It Was Way More Cost Efficient.
@@Thiago_Rodrigues30I never found the sight to be that much of a downside, my brain has already recognized where every one of my plants are but the luck is just bs
@@Thiago_Rodrigues30 4-10 would be a cool one actually, because that has had strategy developments over time to be more consistent. In terms of the most purely luck based levels, like the ratio from skill:luck being the smallest, I'd say 3-10 is worse than 4-10.
It’s because they’re too slow in comparison to things like starfruit and repeater. Kernel Pult is too slow to be super effective, and you receive melon far too late for it to be super useful.
Real OG's always knew star gaming was the best, it's funny as someone who has never looked at the speedrunning side of this game but even when the game first came out I was like "hold up starfruit absolutely kicks ass" I was watching a mate play the game and he unlocked starfruit and said he never used it, convinced him to use it once and immediately he's like "oh my god you're right"
to actually optimise speedrunning i think u should use doomshroom so that as soon as the last wave of zombies spawn u kill them, it doesn’t matter what you do before that because the spawning times don’t change
@@lord_pearl We use doom shroom in the later roof levels. I didn’t use doom shroom in any of my examples, but optimally doom shroom is used from 5-4 to 5-9.
@@lord_pearl Doom shroom with starfruits is interchangeable with jalapeño and potato mine, and I wanted to get better at using jalapeño and potato mine. But you can see at 7:08 that I have doom shroom with the gloom shroom strategy.
My mom is genuinely the greatest pvz player of all time. I remember as a kid she would be on our computer grinding plants versus zombies and we would watch in awe as she beat the game for the 100th time. I remember watching her kill yetis, type in "mustache" to summon michael Jackson and fight off horses of the big ones.
Starfruit was hilarious to pick for me, especially in those minigames where they give you a bunch of suns I just spammed Starfruits all the time and it almost killed my phone lmfao kinda surprised speedrunners only recently discovered this though Speedrunners can find the most obscure starts just to save seconds on a run
It's funny how speedrunners use stuff that seem useless for the average player and they manage to do amazing things. Starfruit is so underrated lmao
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Not a speedrunner, but Snow Pea combines with Starfruit so well. Even so 20 Starfruit from Column 6 to 9 in Roof level kill a Football Zombie less than 5 Seconds.
I used it through pretty much all of fog because every level just became easy after that, I stopped using it cause I wanted to test the new plants tho
2 forward side projectiles at the cost of barely 125 while you had to pay 200 for a repeater for 2 projectiles or 100 for a pea shooter to get a projectile. Starfruit is OP for its cost when not placed on the first or last row. Even then you get a backwards and a side ways projectile. No wonder it costs 175 sun in PvP mode while repeater costs 150 (console version).
Star fruit isn't trash to a normal player like me
My boyfriend yelled at me when I brought the upgraded watering can because he liked watering the plants individually
Based boyfriend.
You can just buy the glove and separate the plants so that they are watered indiviually
@@naturelulI …what?
@@deleetiusproductions3497it’s a joke snowflake
Understandable
take a shot every time sasquatch says "revolutionary" or "awkward"
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Wait, it was supposed to be alcohol shots??
Good because I'm under the age to drink
@@MrWerd.someone call an ambulance for bro, or maybe not depending on his financial situation
Will do
@@nini303kis bro a mortis main
It seems so weird to me to think that people speedran the game for many years before thinking "hey, what if we used starfruit?", because every time i played through the game I'd just use starfruits as soon as i got them because of how good they were when spammed. Of course, since all of them were casual playthroughs i never thought of how fast they could be and played safe using pumpkins and chompers, but it's nice to see that they are being used in speedruns now
Like Stan Lee used to say, don't let others talk you out of something that you thought were good (something similar like that😅)
@@zackzoom8779that was just a way for him to defend his cannibalism
Hey man, dont knock it til you try it
I learned about how good Starfruit actually was from watching challenge runs like shyguymask! But since they were challenge runs (as opposed to speedruns) I also didn't think much of it. I'm glad the lil boi is getting the recognition he deserves now!!
SAME! Throughout the whole video I was confused as to how no one even attempted to use it when it's such a comfortable plant to use, at least for me.
Wasn't there an entire mini-game used to demonstrate how busted Starfruit spam is?
The mini game is called "Seeing Stars"
3:10 Cactus in the roof level!? Thats what I call hopelessness
I did actually propose a strategy for any% once which included cactus. Don't ask how, but part of the strategy (not the cactus part, but the general idea of it) did actually make its way to 5-1 in the form of peashooter + repeater
@@BulbasaurRepresent what was the cactus supposed to do
@@kozolith2121 Basically the idea was that instead of cabbage + repeater, you took cabbage + peashooter + cactus, all plants that have basically the same dps and cost, and effectively you would be able to juggle all three at once and be able to constantly plant firepower.
The idea came from 1-7, where we're forced to use snow pea which is usually useless in speedruns, but it does occasionally get used to avoid peashooter cooldown.
I do think that if we had cactus on a 2 flag, daytime, non-roof level then the strategy would have actually been good (although there's no reason not to use split pea instead, cactus was just funnier) but alas we do not live in that timeline.
It did make me realise that peashooter + repeater was a really good strategy on 5-1 though.
Cactus should be able to work on roof levels. Still useless compared to cabbage pult but still better than it is right now
@@BulbasaurRepresent yoooo the guy mentioned in the video
Wow the stars really aligned for this strat
Oh my god
ba dum *tss*
HAHAHAHAHAHA…
I like how the title implies that star fruit changed all of speed running as a whole instead of just PvZ speed running
dude that would've been fucking sick
I mean yeah you can't really do a mario 64 run without starfruit now.
@@lamegamertimeUndertale speedruns are insanely hard without Star Fruit.
Huh, I remember learning the power of starfruit when playing the AltVerz mod, I can't believe this wasn't found earlier for speedrunning- a cool feature about starfruit is that, since its projectiles span all the lanes, projectiles tend to target the zombies most ahead and push the zombies back- kind of acting like Cattail in that manner. I guess that also this front-zombie-targeting aspect kind of like a pseudo-instant, dealing with the zombie most ahead instead of even spread out damage across all lanes- making instas doing more overall damage to zombies in the backend
3:40 that moment when you have to explain to your spouse that they've made a cameo in a UA-cam video about... starfruit. 🤣
One thing that is intriguing for me is that this strategy is not found until 03/2023? (If I undertsand it right), after over 15 years and the there are still something new in PvZ. Truly an epic and classic game of all time.
This game never dies
Bonus starfruit footage - this is a really cool strategy used in pogo party shopless!
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Starfruit strats also have one very important thing over repeater: THEY'RE SO MUCH FUN
No way this is him
Goated
The starfruit guy
OH MY GAD
Oddly fitting how someone who's username contains the name of a Grass Type Pokemon helped shave off speedrunning time for Plants VS Zombies (as well as being the current record holder)
He name grass
Starfruit is way too underappreciated
Im glad we have people who understood it
"Sometimes I have ideas.
Then I do those ideas and I realise why I shouldn't have ideas."
Same here buddy, same here.
9:29 voice crack😂 bless you, my man
June 17 2024, I now find out that there is a whole PvZ speedruning community
9:05 the funny thing is that on one of the mobile versions the star projectile hitbox is set behind for some reason, so the shotgun effect works on any zombie a tile behind rather than needing to be directly on starfruit
hi why are u everywhere i go :3
@@thesoftone if you ever feel safe, remember I’m here
@@firytwig i never feel safe because my country hates me, but thanks anyway!! >w
Weird choice to have a "before starfruit" section, but not mention what the records were. The discord screenshot at 4:56 was clearly supposed to be a "NANI?!" moment, but without any frame of reference for the previous times it just kinda falls flat.
really agree. i was really uninterested by the video because i felt like i had no scale for what speedrunning was for pvz?
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How starfruit changed sspeedrunning:
People started using starfruit
It saved some time I guess it deals a bit more damage and it's cheaper
Here you have it folks, the 10 minute video condensed
I always liked that plant only because it would fill my screen with projectiles, and it was satisfacotry having multiple rows of starfruits filling the entire screen
Wow. Starfruit still continues to surprise people, all these years later.
“Starfruit is top tier in shop less speedrunning”
Danerade: Visible confusion
Starfruit is a somewhat awkward plant to use, but honestly, after using it on said roof levels (and Vegezombies thinking it could dodge its attacks, then not reseting when the game defied logic) it kinda felt like a 125 nerfed Gloom shroom, unintuitive to use but very rewarding once you understand the angles it is shooting at, like using a 125 sun repeater in terms of DPS, who doesn't rely on Garlic/Pumpkin or torchwood but on instas in the early game because, just like the reed in PvZ2, it works best on groups to fill the screen with attacks.
The Fact You Can Speedrun PvZ At All Continues To Surprise Me
This is such a specific topic, appreciate you making the video about it! :D Starfruit's shooting pattern always reminded me of shmup games.
The Split Pea strat is a work of art
Excellent watch, the time flew by and i now have a hunger for even pvz history from you in the future!! Starfruits are the startfruits of something amazing..,,
More PvZ history you say…?
I kove that this game still get videos on it. Keep up the good work man i enjoy the content
STAR FRUIT IS MY 3RD FAVORITE PLANT!!!!
wait this revolution was as late as 2023? no wonder why shyguymask always said the plant is heavily underrated.
like come on it's 5 projectiles with the cost efficency of scaredy shroom. work around the gimmick and it's amazing value for money.
in speedrunning, people use the least expected thing and they end up doing better than other people
Well. Since the first time i played pvz, i think in the minigame where you must plant starfruit. And that's where i realized, how powerful starfruit is.
25% cost more from peashooter and you get?
- double diagonal front attack
- one backward
- double up and down
So much fire coverage for +25% cost. Good for early and mid game i guess.
The Starfruit shotgun *surprised* me
man i love these pvz video essays. keep it up man
I haven’t played pvz in years but I remember first thinking starfruit was terrible until I was like “well maybe if I just do MORE starfruit” and actually liked it. guess I was onto something.
Favorite strats were still always cattail spam and corncob cannons
Weirdly, I frequently use starfruit not because of those speedrunner.
It's because someguy on youtube "shyguymask" said this starfruit are S+ tier plant.
shy guy mask is the best pvz youtuber
shyguy deserves to be called more than "someguy"
Why do pvz speedrunners like chibi pokemon pfps lol
they're cute
@@BulbasaurRepresent can't argue with that
@@BulbasaurRepresentBULBASAUR OMG YOU MADE STARFRUIT STRAT OKMGJF8DMWQK
Cause they're homosexual
I think the reason why Starfruit is so underrated is because he was unlocked too late into the game, and generally the base game is already super easy to begin with. That's why when you decided to put your own restrictions or speedruns, his full potential is unlocked. For example, if he was unlocked during Night or early Pool levels, he would have been solid since he can be used more often in pool which is a massive advantage. But since he was unlocked at the end of Fog levels and the world after that is Roof, he doesn't get much usage. The only time you would actually use Starfruit is probably in mini games and some survivals, the former only had few stages while for the latter you would ended up saving for Gatling setups or Winter Melon setups.
This is exactly what happened.
He's unlocked so late that you also have a pretty good idea of what you want your strategy to be in roof, and when you get to roof he's not even super new so you're not testing him out there either.
Starfruit I one of the very few plants I never used because I don’t like the shooting pattern and suns was never a problem and things like ice melons are just more fun to see
I've been using starfruit strat ever since I saw it on one of the challenges to just build starfruit on every lawn, it was totally shocking that time and I kept using it by the time, didn't know this was a thing now! LMAO
time to eat while watching a random video about pvz speedrunning
Starfruit is finally getting recognition it deserves. It became one of my favorite plants after doing the Seeing Stars level.
I love how no matter what game it is, the most deranged people end up finding the best strats for speedrunning
I like how YT randomly recommended me Videos of Random Things that I’m not really interested in, but i still watch the Videos and loved them. Great Video mate❤❤.
Ive never watched anything about pvz speedrunning, but this was fun lmao subbed
me watching random ass video essays and agreeing and nodding with everything he says:
I exclusively always used starfruit because they always seemed to tear up the stages. Wish I knew there was a whole speed running community I could have shared my discovery with lol
Funny how i just beated the game using the starfruit strat on the roof levels even when i didnt even knew that it was an actual real strat, i just wanted a plant to fill my seeds bar and for a reason the starfruit attack pattern seemed good for the roof so i started using it just to try something different and it was really useful
Take a shot every time the narrator does vocal fry.
I can't believe no one ever found this out until 2023. This is a relatively simple game and has been around for more than a decade. Very interesting.
0:50
shoulda had the summon sult music =)
he so adorable! I even got a plushy of him!
Am glad that peeps are seeing the true potential of star fruit. Can never forget that my dad was the one who introduced its potential to me and was always his key plant in every mode and why he has a high streak on Zombie Endless Pool edition.
I love love love replaying this game. I’m not a speedrunner or sole master strategist. But I love these videos for sleeping.
Funny that took them so long to discover the starfruit strat, starfruit on flat surface then a row or 2 of marigold is my gold farming hack without using purple plant
I always find it funny how stuff like this is discovered after years and years of a game being played at a high level.
Bro this boof is so good I thought this was a Stardew Valley guide 2+ mins in
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I knew it when I was playing that Starfruit minigame and was surprised how it was destroying everything when I got 1/2 of the needed Starfruit I had to put down
oh no a new niche speedrunning game for me to hyperfixate over
How the fuck are new strategies still found for a 2009 game? Gotta love the speedrun community
Huh. I just found this video. Did not know starfruit is highly regarded in the pvz community..
I mean.. this cute thing always becoming my staple since i play this game..
Why? The last fog stages when they gave you a ton of starfruit.
I gave it a thought.. "this plant is neat" and just use it
This is the first time I've ever heard of PvZ Speedrunning
I used to use the "Starfruit Shotgun" strategy all the time!
I feel so validated
The shotgun is amazing!
When I was a kid, I was happy having that Tree grow up to 1000ft
so glad the fandom is well and alive
Not gonna lie, if it weren't for this video popping up in my feed I would never have even thought about the concept of speedrunning pvz, this is wild to me lol
youtube recommending me this thinking it was stardew valley's starfruit 💀
I can't believe this was found in late 2023 I was using star fruit on roof for years
That's so hype, good for Starfruit I hope this discovery allows Starfruit to finally afford a dentist for his tooth
I Always Play With 2 Backrow Of Sunflowers And Then Pushed My Lanes Forward Early Game By Only Planting Sun And Potato Mines/Mimic PM. Farmed A Good Amount Of Sun To Start Placing 2 3-Shooters On Both The Top And Bottom Lane To Have Firepower Going Down Each Lane Before 1st Wave. This Would Get Me Through Pretty Quick To Then Just Upgrade My Backrow Of Sunflower To The Double Flowers And Remove My Second Flower Row For More 3Shooters As I Spam Them. Then I Found Out About Starfruit And Started Spamming Them Because It Was Way More Cost Efficient.
an ingenious solution to a problem that should have never existed in the first place
I've used them since I was a kid because I liked how they worked and it seemed to work, didn't think it was this op lol
I raise my hand after this video for a strategy tier list 🙋♀️
Oh hell yeah I've loved the original pvz since 2011, glad I found this
Not sure how good of a video idea this would be but: I suggest a video about highlighting some of the most annoying levels in PvZ speedrunning
4-10. You can't see anything half of the time, and it also depends on conveyor belt RNG, so there isn't really a good strategy.
@@Thiago_Rodrigues30I never found the sight to be that much of a downside, my brain has already recognized where every one of my plants are but the luck is just bs
@@Thiago_Rodrigues30 4-10 would be a cool one actually, because that has had strategy developments over time to be more consistent.
In terms of the most purely luck based levels, like the ratio from skill:luck being the smallest, I'd say 3-10 is worse than 4-10.
I never did speedrunning in PvZ, but I've always loved Starfruit. One of my favorites to use in both PvZ and PvZ2
I love gaining obscure knowledge that only people deep within a niche community would normally ever appreciate.
Oh god its face looks like Mr Frundles! Run for your lives!
finally my beloved starfruit recieved the recognition it deserves
I'm so happy my boy starfruit is getting appreciated 😭
this is definitely gonna blow up.
Starfruit my beloved
"Starfruit is a completely better plant than split pea" --Isaac Newton
Is there a reason why speedrunners don't use Kernel-pult or Melon-pult for those levels? They're specifically designed for roof...
It’s because they’re too slow in comparison to things like starfruit and repeater. Kernel Pult is too slow to be super effective, and you receive melon far too late for it to be super useful.
Shyguymask would be proud.
i feel that shyguymask likes this video
Real OG's always knew star gaming was the best, it's funny as someone who has never looked at the speedrunning side of this game but even when the game first came out I was like "hold up starfruit absolutely kicks ass"
I was watching a mate play the game and he unlocked starfruit and said he never used it, convinced him to use it once and immediately he's like "oh my god you're right"
how did i begin watching pvz speedrunning content chat?
revolutionary
to actually optimise speedrunning i think u should use doomshroom so that as soon as the last wave of zombies spawn u kill them, it doesn’t matter what you do before that because the spawning times don’t change
Hey, we actually do that!
@@Sasquash19 wait wym i didn’t see any doom shrooms in ur loadout lmao
@@lord_pearl We use doom shroom in the later roof levels. I didn’t use doom shroom in any of my examples, but optimally doom shroom is used from 5-4 to 5-9.
@@Sasquash19 well, why not?
@@lord_pearl Doom shroom with starfruits is interchangeable with jalapeño and potato mine, and I wanted to get better at using jalapeño and potato mine. But you can see at 7:08 that I have doom shroom with the gloom shroom strategy.
My mom is genuinely the greatest pvz player of all time. I remember as a kid she would be on our computer grinding plants versus zombies and we would watch in awe as she beat the game for the 100th time. I remember watching her kill yetis, type in "mustache" to summon michael Jackson and fight off horses of the big ones.
Great job editing
Thanks! I am learning a lot of new things
@@Sasquash19 good for you.
This video should be 10 hours long. Day is ruined.
Speedrunners just started to realize that last year? Not so fast are we
Shyguymask would be grateful
I can't wait to watch someone try to speed run pong.
Starfruit was hilarious to pick for me, especially in those minigames where they give you a bunch of suns I just spammed Starfruits all the time and it almost killed my phone lmfao kinda surprised speedrunners only recently discovered this though Speedrunners can find the most obscure starts just to save seconds on a run
Glad they added in PVZ2! Amazing plant!
Starfruit on Modded PVZ aka PVZ fusion has one of the most strongest evolution path.