Casey saying he hid in his bathroom and watched tiktoc for 10 min to escape his children turned him into a person in my eyes. Before he was this unknown internet untouchable celebrity that i'd never watched... just kind of heard about him here or there. :D Thanks Phil and co for making yet another show where I have found more humanity in people. That makes my heart happy.
I'd really, REALLY like it if you interviewed Caitlin Doughty a youtuber who is a mortician-someone who we need more exposure to especially during covid and all this death. We need more Death Positivity in American culture and I just find her and her videos incredibly fascinating. People shouldn't be ashamed to be INTO death-to be fascinated by it, to talk about it. The fact that Death is a taboo thing is just nuts.
Casey giving credit to luck is *big* and important to highlight I think. There is another way to phrase it all though: "Success is opportunity meeting preparation" Opportunity is the luck factor. Casey had a background in film making, he had spent years developing a style to his craft, and then opportunity hit and he was able to apply all that preparation. If you look at all the big companies that started as startups in the 2000's, you'll see a similar trend as well. Google wasn't founded by a couple of guys that just "got lucky" with it all, no, the founders were 2 guys with Ph.Ds in Computer Science in freaking mathematical models of the world wide web. Opportunity meets Preparation.
Regarding ‘not being able to focus’ during this time, I am experiencing the same problem. I think it all boils down to losing our daily rituals. Things like getting your daily coffee, speaking to a specific person or your commute can actually have a real effect on your mental health. Rituals are so important in maintaining a positive mind. Those little things create the difference between an healthy work environment and an unhealthy one.
After losing my job during the closures I chose to dive full time into youtube. My channel is still super young (just turned 1) and working on UA-cam for the past 60 days has not sunk in that this is what I do now. It's almost a blessing, but it is stressful learning to do this full time. The stresses can be real.
Someone I think you would vibe well with for this podcast is Larry Lawton. He’s an ex-jewel thief who spent time in max security prison. He’s all about prison reform and encouraging youth to not get into a life of crime. He is an awesome dude, and his channel has been blowing up recently. He is also the best storyteller.
This was honestly one of my favorites so far. I love the cozy, down to earth feel of this. It's two dads talking about life for an hour and a half. Thank you for that.
When Casey mentioned the private school thing, that really reminded me of my experiences in my boarding school. I went to one of the most expensive boarding schools in the world, and it was absolutely a horrible environment. It was 75% parents sending kids over so they don't have to deal with them, give them an absurd amount of money to spend all the time (they literally bought a restaurant in a village where they could hang out, told the teachers to fuck off cuz it's private property), not to speak of drugs, sneaking out, partying, and the list goes on. If you get caught, but you have enough money, they are willing to forgive and forget. On the other hand, I had such unimaginably good teachers. I really looked up to a lot of them, and I am still in contact with one of them. Both of those sides of that rotten world taught me so much, and really made me who I am today. I went through feeling left out, feeling depressed, feeling jealous, feeling worthless, and so much more. I am so glad to be out of that now.
I relate so much to the conversation of money and always being afraid of going back to that dark place ... The “always had” thing is real. My kids when I have them will be that. I think since my dad came here with nothing he sees us that way...
Literally my two favorite UA-cam personalities. So glad I got to watch this! Being a 25 year old male who is interested in film, UA-cam, and to a certain extent navigating the murky waters of social media, I look up to you guys, with so much respect and admiration. Anyhow, enough fan boying, thanks for the great content, and the guiding light.
Casey, thank you so much for talking about how difficult it is to do accomplish anything right now. I'm dealing with the same thing and its nice to k ow I'm not completely crazy.
I really appreciate what Casey had to say about his daily vlogging project and the future impact of vlogging in general. He was one of my inspirations, when I started vlogging. And just hearing his thoughts, now, is inspiring. Thank you.
LMFAO 3:26 when phil says what he’d do during quarantine if he didn’t have kids is exactly what i’m doing right now🤣 high asf watching this, ignoring stressors
You guys sitting and talking about therapy in the same manner that you talk about everything else... I want to cry! Thank you Phil and Casey for helping break down the stigma! Mental health matters and going to therapy is just as acceptable as going to the dentist when your tooth hurts or the doctor when you're sick!
I don't think it was 2015 when you did that sourcefed thing in New York, because that was a couple of years later, and I wasn't able to go. But in May of 2015, you were in New York randomly, and you did an impromptu meet and greet at Dave and Busters in Times Square, and it was the best thing ever for me. I got to meet you after watching you for 8 years at the time, and you're the only UA-camr I really wanted to meet, so I'm really really grateful I got to do that.
Thank you for doing this! The last two conversations (with Casey and Dr. Mike) kept me very entertained for the night. and it has been amazing. It is escape-ism but it is also just a good conversation! (Now, let me have a my own conversation with).
7:34 I don't know if this helps, but I've really struggled with focus and being able to just _do_ things over the last month too. I ran it by my psychiatrist, and she explained that while stress-induced ADHD isn't in the DSM-V (aka, not an official diagnosis), it's a very real thing that happens to people. And I wasn't her only patient without ADHD to suddenly have the symptoms of it. Couple that with the depression and anxiety almost everyone is going through - there's real grief and fear happening here - and yeah, it's pretty normal.
Facts. I have wicked ADD but also have been affected by a lot of chronic trauma/stress, and circumstances ABSOLUTELY affect those sorts of cognitive functions. I hate it when people with chronic disabilities gatekeep about situationally induced disability. Chronic trauma (which a global crisis counts as, just like homelessness or poverty) has a very real physiological effect. We are controlled entirely by electrical and chemical signals, and those can get screwed up all sorts of ways. Some people with chronic neurologic/cognitive issues may show it more and be more sensitive to it but that doesn't mean that others don't experience an effect from it just because their *usual* baseline is more neurotypical than my usual baseline.
@@ItsAsparageese Totally agree. Although, as someone with chronic disabilities, I kinda get the gatekeeping. It's not right and it's hurtful, but I get it. Personally, I've had cranky thoughts of "Oh, nooooow you get it. How's that bootstrap working? You know, the one you've told me to pull myself up with for years?" I want to gatekeep sometimes too. Then I remember 2005, when this exact same thing happened to me. Couldn't work, couldn't leave the house, had no idea where I was gonna live, in constant pain, and my brain completely lost the plot. All that fear of the present and the future. And not knowing yet that I could do it, that I would figure it out, that I would be ok. So you're totally right. We can all have compassion for each other and how right now, we're all a hot mess. This is traumatic, plain and simple, and there's no need to get competitive with suffering. And those of us who've been walking this road for years - well, we're the ones that can say with definitive proof "You're gonna be ok. If I can do it, you totally can do it." We can be the ones opening the gates, not shutting them. That's how we're gonna get through this.
I could listen to these guys discuss random topics for 90 mins every single day, lol, seriously, loving these ACW eps lately, especially since the inclusion of the "card game", it truly is a very effective format for maintaining forward momentum in the convo. It also acts as a bit of an "expectational (if that's a word :P) grounding rod" so to speak, keeping both the guest and YT audience aware of the low stakes nature of just having a conversation with someone you trust to be there for you on a human level. I feel like long term that kind of thing can really serve to keep things as ephemeral as they can be given the platform, and is a wise and at times hilarious inclusion. PS: I completely understand the desire Phil described when he said, "I want to get to a place where I'm not scared to do psychedelics, because the stuff that I suppress is going to come out...", and I can speak from experience in saying that, the single emotion that has the most direct effect over how "good" or "bad" of a psychedelic experience you may or may not have is fear, period. Psychedelics are like an emotional magnifying glass, amplifying your present emotional experience in whatever direction you travel with it, and while I am not at all saying, "Just don't worry about it, and you'll be fine", I do think that if you truly are happy with yourself and your life from an emotional standpoint, the biggest danger is not realizing that you have to mentally let go of your desire to "be in full control of your experience at all times" in order to actually enjoy it on any level. Think about it like going to see a movie you've never seen before, if you go into the experience with some expectation as to where it will take you or what it will be like, you risk building a false narrative in your mind of what it should be like, and ultimately that notion itself can end up resulting in a bad experience overall. Maintaining that analogy, think about the fear you might feel watching the movie, as you start to realize that it's not going in the direction you thought it was headed. Thankfully for the art of cinema though, your expectations going into the film have no direct effect on the movie itself, but during an intense psychedelic experience, your emotions act as the subjective and dynamic film that is playing out for you, so there is a real risk of getting lost in a feedback loop of literally being so afraid of becoming more afraid than you are right now that it actively causes you more fear. That is the real hurdle that you need to clear in order to enjoy your experience, letting go of the need to feel like you're in control. If you can get there, and assuming that you're not harboring any other pent up negative emotions about your life and that you have an experienced sober person present to act as "trip sitter" for you, and you're as prepared for that experience as you or anyone ever is.
Great conversation! I don't want to complain about how many ads had popped up within the first 20 minutes, since it's good that there are ads on the video, but it's kinda annoying.
Thank you, Casey! I'm glad I'm not the only one that's mad at the people without kicks learning Spanish and getting all their house projects done while in quarantine.
Loved, loved, loved this interview. Thank you for such a real conversation between two people and what i see now are friends. Enjoyed it so much. Go JoJo....
I had to pause (26:00 mark) because of something Casey said. It is absolutely important to take into account how much weight we put on how people view us. And even more so, when that perception is out of our control. The physicality of how we perceive those and how we interject our wants/desires/needs from people in media is really important and often not spoken about. We as a consumer have a responsibility to moderate the strength of our "fealty" to any one person in the spot light. We may want from them, things they cannot provide, and in that want we push them to do things that may be harming them. This is such a vital concept that I think is really lost in todays society.
Please have Mama Doctor Jones!! 👩⚕️ She’s amazing! (I know someone already mentioned her) I just have to say it again because she’s so knowledgeable & an amazing conversationalist! 💛
"I constantly feel like i'm constantly inconveniencing people". It's that good ol Catholic guilt. I feel like i'm always being a bother to everyone. Hahaha.
"I hid in the bathroom and watched tiktoc for 10 minutes" haha as a cat-dad I can relate to this so hard. When I adopted a kitten last year she became so attached she was by my side every second of the day and even slept in my arms. She was underweight and really food aggressive so I had to eat all my meals hiding in the bathroom so she wouldn't climb all over me. I could only be away for a couple minutes before she would go ballistic attacking the door so I had to eat really fast and enjoy my moment alone while I could get it =P
Out of work right now and don't know if I ever get my job back. My 2 daughters love Casey. And to hear him mentioning ppl not being able to feed there kids...is more of a issue than ppl know...😪 lost. Best wishes Phil and Casey..
It’s so cool seeing this different style video from the PDS (both awesome in different respects) Phil you should do like mini Convo With but with people from the Nation! I think I’d be a cool way of just seeing what/how other people are doing or even like lighter topics on how long they’ve watched (looking at you B&W vids in the backyard😅)
I think a very good point to realize is it we adults have lived these many years with these many experiences that allow us to either make wiser decisions or get incredibly apprehensive when something new is present. Now, put that in the perspective of somebody who's only had five years of her life: a child. They are confronting this problem without many years experience, and then being asked to cope with it without those years of experience. This quarantine is quickly becoming an exceptional fraction of their life because of how long it's taking. They are growing up in a world where it is a significant portion of their known existence is being dictated by a pandemic. We do not have the ability to properly empathize with the plight they are dealing with right now. A grown adult can lose a year of their life and blow it off to bad mistakes. For a child, is that loss is unfathomable outside the circumstances of War or absolute poverty. Think about it: a child in a country that barely eats to begin with isn't going to notice anything about what's going on right now. Our best and most noble effort would be to empathize with our children now and only then, begin to explain the nature of the world they live in now. If you can't empathize with your children right now, it's probably best if you don't try to least you give them ideas that are untenable in the future. Just try to care for them and hope they can figure it out for themselves.
I would not mind a whole podcast where Phil and Casey just talk about random stuff. I love them together and their conversations are always super interesting 🥰
Man, Casey is the creator goat. Bittersweet seeing him on these videos. Overall though, just so much gratitude for what he’s done. Thanks Phil for doing these.
Are these podcasts only available on UA-cam?? I tried looking for it on Google Play Music and couldn't find it under their podcasts section. Thanks!! Love this episode... great job guys!
At 40:30, I understood what they meant. The obstacles that you go through help you become wiser. Like a very sheltered kid will most likely be stunted emotionally and in many other ways in life. And then when they have to face something big, they may not be as prepared or poised as someone who's gone through much more. Probably emotionally a lot more stressed about it.
i love how Casey went off at the end there. go jojo! can you do a virtual mancave kind of thing where you get really chill people and just have a larger "conversation with"? like, markiplier + casey + idk, james charles? just to shake things up.
When you do online interviews, you should ask Casey to record his video or at least his audio as well. Then you edit over his sound so it syncs Pro tips
Phil, these podcasts don’t seem to be appearing in the normal podcast feeds such as Apple or Spotify. The past couple I’ve went to listen to on apple podcasts haven’t been there. Is there anyway you can fix this?
When Casey said that trump would give universal healthcare I literarily gasped because I just made a presentation about inequalities in our world and I chose to do universal healthcare no one cares but I just wanted to share this lol
Alright this will probably be an unpopular opinion but I really want to share my 2 cents. The bit where Casey talks about mariuhana hits close to home. I have been addicted to weed for the past10 years. And it started quite the same as it (apparentely) did with Casey. Earlier in my life I did it sporadically when friends had it on them and I just smoked along. Maybe a couple of times a year. But then I got into a relationship with someone who also liked to smoke and it became a daily habit. I got to know way more people who I could buy it from. It just became so much more easier to get some. And it became an addiction. Truth be said I had some mental issues which of course played into it but I didn't recognize it that way. In the beginning it was all fun and games. Just a way to let of some steam and relax. I remember fondly getting high and watching classic movies like 2001 a space odyssey. It was so much more immersive. Everything was. I could get into this fantastical state of mind I just couldn't when I was sober. But it didn't stay that way and it gradually became something I needed to escape. At the end I smoked about 7 joints a day, every day, just to not be present and get through my day. But I couldn't recognize it. I mean, it's just weed right? There's way more severe drugs to be addicted to, it's not a big deal surely. I know mariuhana is perceived as a drug that isn't all that harmful but I personally don't agree with that. It very much can be. That doesn't mean I'm saying that it is without a doubt. But it can be. And it is very sneaky. More so because we don't perceive it to be all that bad. The thing is that if you are addicted you probably won't see it that way. But there is a very simple test to find out. Just stay away from it for a while and see if you can do without. If you're sure you are not addicted that shouldn't be a problem. And for some people that very much can be the case. I personally don't have a problem with alcohol. I like to drink when I'm at a social gathering but I never drink at home. With weed that is a totally different case. If I have it laying around I can't say no to it. I smoked my last joint december 31 2019, almost 5 months sober now and I don't plan on going back. The difference is huge. I feel so much better mentally. The thing that struck me with Casey is that he said that he can't focus to get things done now in quarantine. And that might be true for him but that's exactly how I felt when I smoked. It just didn't matter all that much, weed was all I needed. Now that I am sober and in this quarantine situation I have been creating pretty much every single day. All I am saying is that it needs nuance, weed isn't harmless but you need to decide that for yourself. Just be aware of the reasons why you smoke and if you feel like it is difficult to do without it's maybe time to look into that. I wish they just would acknowledge this in this podcast. If you read all this, thank you, I wish you a wonderful day and stay safe.
I like Casey's work a lot. I've been a huge fan ever since the mid oughts, loved his early DIY-videos and HBO series. His vlog series was super creative and hard to produce but I'm not a big fan of how he gets praise for "daily vlogs" on YT, almost like he invented it. There are people like Charles Trippy who have been doing it for 11+ years. Sure, it's mostly home video and easier to produce but the genre is much older. If anything, Casey upped the genre with his style.
watching this show after the quarantine, and what Philip described - If he didnt have kids, he'd just be a normal person, log onto work then eat edibles for the rest of the day - I'm a DINK and thats exactly what I did lol
I have just recently started watching UA-cam and I really enjoy Phil. Look at me, like we are on a 1st name basis!! The news depresses me so I learn of current events through him and just now found this!!! I may be old enough to be his mom but love his view on edibles!!! If I could, I would eat em all day long!!! If he reads comments....Love Ya and keep up the great work!!!!
I'm excited, nervous, and sad for when Phil makes this move he has been talking about for a while. It will be odd to think that he won't be on YT. I've been coming back to Phil for the last 10 years. When I think of YT I think of Phil. But I also understand for his time to move on. And I'll be there for as long as he is still putting his voice out there.
It's so strange to me that people assume mushrooms would be more comfortable just because the natural-drug connotations make them seem less intimidating than LSD. Acid is soooo much more predictable, dose-controllable, and just a more elegant simple mental trip. Shrooms give a weird body high that not everyone likes (I don't like it unless I take a very small mild token amount just for a light high) and the trip screws a lot more with your sense of space and time than LSD does. On shrooms, the bus way down the street can feel like it's about to hit you. On LSD, sure your brain is on fire about the universe and how the shape of a torus-model universe dividing for multiple universe theory is a lot like cell division and you feel like everything is super important and whatnot, but at least you can stay pretty clear on how far away the walls are, even if you can also relax while looking at the walls and see patterns dancing on them lol. I think dose is far far less intimidating and much milder and a more manageable trip, and I really think people should try it (at a pretty mild dose, just one hit or half a hit) FIRST before exploring stuff like shrooms or DMT or even strong salvia.
Who's been enjoying the podcasts coming back? Who should we have on next? Let me know!
Thanks for always keeping us informed and entertained. If nobody has told you today, you're doing a good job
A Conversation With Elon Musk
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I'd love to see David Dobrik on one of these lol just all the weird things that guy says I'd be interesting
Grace Helbig,
Mamrie Hart,
Hannah Hart,
Hank Green,
John Green,
Michael Buckley,
all the other former Sourcefed hosts you didn't have on yet
ayyyy Casey! always a good time when we get together.
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Hey Phil, quick question. What are these cards called and were can I get them? Want to try playing these with friends
This video has more casey than what we've seen in the past year
It's really cool to listen to two dads gushing about their kids.
Also, to Casey staning JojoSiwa lol
Casey saying he hid in his bathroom and watched tiktoc for 10 min to escape his children turned him into a person in my eyes. Before he was this unknown internet untouchable celebrity that i'd never watched... just kind of heard about him here or there. :D
Thanks Phil and co for making yet another show where I have found more humanity in people. That makes my heart happy.
What a beautiful comment
such a first-world comment, really
I'd really, REALLY like it if you interviewed Caitlin Doughty a youtuber who is a mortician-someone who we need more exposure to especially during covid and all this death. We need more Death Positivity in American culture and I just find her and her videos incredibly fascinating. People shouldn't be ashamed to be INTO death-to be fascinated by it, to talk about it. The fact that Death is a taboo thing is just nuts.
I love Caitlin! Her books are great and the channel is amazing.
Yes! I’d love to see her on the show too.
everybody poops, (almost) everybody has sex, everybody dies. crazy how we can't talk about these things.
I love Caitlin, she's great!
Yes, that would be awesome!
Casey giving credit to luck is *big* and important to highlight I think. There is another way to phrase it all though: "Success is opportunity meeting preparation" Opportunity is the luck factor. Casey had a background in film making, he had spent years developing a style to his craft, and then opportunity hit and he was able to apply all that preparation. If you look at all the big companies that started as startups in the 2000's, you'll see a similar trend as well. Google wasn't founded by a couple of guys that just "got lucky" with it all, no, the founders were 2 guys with Ph.Ds in Computer Science in freaking mathematical models of the world wide web. Opportunity meets Preparation.
"I apparently need to eat all of my feelings" That's a mood.
Suppression works until it doesn’t
Regarding ‘not being able to focus’ during this time, I am experiencing the same problem. I think it all boils down to losing our daily rituals. Things like getting your daily coffee, speaking to a specific person or your commute can actually have a real effect on your mental health. Rituals are so important in maintaining a positive mind. Those little things create the difference between an healthy work environment and an unhealthy one.
thanks for the timecodes + subject Phil! this will help for future when i want to show it to friends
After losing my job during the closures I chose to dive full time into youtube. My channel is still super young (just turned 1) and working on UA-cam for the past 60 days has not sunk in that this is what I do now. It's almost a blessing, but it is stressful learning to do this full time. The stresses can be real.
Someone I think you would vibe well with for this podcast is Larry Lawton. He’s an ex-jewel thief who spent time in max security prison. He’s all about prison reform and encouraging youth to not get into a life of crime. He is an awesome dude, and his channel has been blowing up recently. He is also the best storyteller.
That edible comment hit way tooooo close to home LMAO
This was honestly one of my favorites so far. I love the cozy, down to earth feel of this. It's two dads talking about life for an hour and a half. Thank you for that.
When Casey mentioned the private school thing, that really reminded me of my experiences in my boarding school. I went to one of the most expensive boarding schools in the world, and it was absolutely a horrible environment. It was 75% parents sending kids over so they don't have to deal with them, give them an absurd amount of money to spend all the time (they literally bought a restaurant in a village where they could hang out, told the teachers to fuck off cuz it's private property), not to speak of drugs, sneaking out, partying, and the list goes on. If you get caught, but you have enough money, they are willing to forgive and forget.
On the other hand, I had such unimaginably good teachers. I really looked up to a lot of them, and I am still in contact with one of them. Both of those sides of that rotten world taught me so much, and really made me who I am today. I went through feeling left out, feeling depressed, feeling jealous, feeling worthless, and so much more. I am so glad to be out of that now.
Do an episode with Lindsay, Casey and Candace about life on youtube and parenting!!
I relate so much to the conversation of money and always being afraid of going back to that dark place ...
The “always had” thing is real. My kids when I have them will be that. I think since my dad came here with nothing he sees us that way...
Casey talking about dance moms era Jojo so passionately is the highlight of my quarantine
Literally my two favorite UA-cam personalities. So glad I got to watch this! Being a 25 year old male who is interested in film, UA-cam, and to a certain extent navigating the murky waters of social media, I look up to you guys, with so much respect and admiration. Anyhow, enough fan boying, thanks for the great content, and the guiding light.
Casey, thank you so much for talking about how difficult it is to do accomplish anything right now. I'm dealing with the same thing and its nice to k ow I'm not completely crazy.
I really appreciate what Casey had to say about his daily vlogging project and the future impact of vlogging in general. He was one of my inspirations, when I started vlogging. And just hearing his thoughts, now, is inspiring. Thank you.
LMFAO 3:26 when phil says what he’d do during quarantine if he didn’t have kids is exactly what i’m doing right now🤣 high asf watching this, ignoring stressors
also when casey was talking about self actualizing and Realizing every thought when he’s high! same!! i feel so seen
You guys sitting and talking about therapy in the same manner that you talk about everything else... I want to cry! Thank you Phil and Casey for helping break down the stigma! Mental health matters and going to therapy is just as acceptable as going to the dentist when your tooth hurts or the doctor when you're sick!
I don't think it was 2015 when you did that sourcefed thing in New York, because that was a couple of years later, and I wasn't able to go. But in May of 2015, you were in New York randomly, and you did an impromptu meet and greet at Dave and Busters in Times Square, and it was the best thing ever for me. I got to meet you after watching you for 8 years at the time, and you're the only UA-camr I really wanted to meet, so I'm really really grateful I got to do that.
Giving me something to listen to while I "work" at home haha
Thank you for doing this! The last two conversations (with Casey and Dr. Mike) kept me very entertained for the night. and it has been amazing. It is escape-ism but it is also just a good conversation! (Now, let me have a my own conversation with).
The podcasts with Casey are always the best! Phil should definitely do a regular podcast with him!
7:34 I don't know if this helps, but I've really struggled with focus and being able to just _do_ things over the last month too.
I ran it by my psychiatrist, and she explained that while stress-induced ADHD isn't in the DSM-V (aka, not an official diagnosis), it's a very real thing that happens to people. And I wasn't her only patient without ADHD to suddenly have the symptoms of it.
Couple that with the depression and anxiety almost everyone is going through - there's real grief and fear happening here - and yeah, it's pretty normal.
Facts. I have wicked ADD but also have been affected by a lot of chronic trauma/stress, and circumstances ABSOLUTELY affect those sorts of cognitive functions. I hate it when people with chronic disabilities gatekeep about situationally induced disability. Chronic trauma (which a global crisis counts as, just like homelessness or poverty) has a very real physiological effect. We are controlled entirely by electrical and chemical signals, and those can get screwed up all sorts of ways. Some people with chronic neurologic/cognitive issues may show it more and be more sensitive to it but that doesn't mean that others don't experience an effect from it just because their *usual* baseline is more neurotypical than my usual baseline.
@@ItsAsparageese Totally agree. Although, as someone with chronic disabilities, I kinda get the gatekeeping. It's not right and it's hurtful, but I get it.
Personally, I've had cranky thoughts of "Oh, nooooow you get it. How's that bootstrap working? You know, the one you've told me to pull myself up with for years?" I want to gatekeep sometimes too.
Then I remember 2005, when this exact same thing happened to me. Couldn't work, couldn't leave the house, had no idea where I was gonna live, in constant pain, and my brain completely lost the plot. All that fear of the present and the future. And not knowing yet that I could do it, that I would figure it out, that I would be ok.
So you're totally right. We can all have compassion for each other and how right now, we're all a hot mess. This is traumatic, plain and simple, and there's no need to get competitive with suffering.
And those of us who've been walking this road for years - well, we're the ones that can say with definitive proof "You're gonna be ok. If I can do it, you totally can do it." We can be the ones opening the gates, not shutting them.
That's how we're gonna get through this.
this was so good :) also thank you for openly talking about therapy, it makes me feel better that I am not alone
I could listen to these guys discuss random topics for 90 mins every single day, lol, seriously, loving these ACW eps lately, especially since the inclusion of the "card game", it truly is a very effective format for maintaining forward momentum in the convo. It also acts as a bit of an "expectational (if that's a word :P) grounding rod" so to speak, keeping both the guest and YT audience aware of the low stakes nature of just having a conversation with someone you trust to be there for you on a human level. I feel like long term that kind of thing can really serve to keep things as ephemeral as they can be given the platform, and is a wise and at times hilarious inclusion.
PS: I completely understand the desire Phil described when he said, "I want to get to a place where I'm not scared to do psychedelics, because the stuff that I suppress is going to come out...", and I can speak from experience in saying that, the single emotion that has the most direct effect over how "good" or "bad" of a psychedelic experience you may or may not have is fear, period. Psychedelics are like an emotional magnifying glass, amplifying your present emotional experience in whatever direction you travel with it, and while I am not at all saying, "Just don't worry about it, and you'll be fine", I do think that if you truly are happy with yourself and your life from an emotional standpoint, the biggest danger is not realizing that you have to mentally let go of your desire to "be in full control of your experience at all times" in order to actually enjoy it on any level. Think about it like going to see a movie you've never seen before, if you go into the experience with some expectation as to where it will take you or what it will be like, you risk building a false narrative in your mind of what it should be like, and ultimately that notion itself can end up resulting in a bad experience overall. Maintaining that analogy, think about the fear you might feel watching the movie, as you start to realize that it's not going in the direction you thought it was headed. Thankfully for the art of cinema though, your expectations going into the film have no direct effect on the movie itself, but during an intense psychedelic experience, your emotions act as the subjective and dynamic film that is playing out for you, so there is a real risk of getting lost in a feedback loop of literally being so afraid of becoming more afraid than you are right now that it actively causes you more fear. That is the real hurdle that you need to clear in order to enjoy your experience, letting go of the need to feel like you're in control. If you can get there, and assuming that you're not harboring any other pent up negative emotions about your life and that you have an experienced sober person present to act as "trip sitter" for you, and you're as prepared for that experience as you or anyone ever is.
Great conversation! I don't want to complain about how many ads had popped up within the first 20 minutes, since it's good that there are ads on the video, but it's kinda annoying.
A conversation with John Mulaney! Not much of a UA-cam but definitely would make some good entertainment
Never stop making podcasts Phil. You have the best guests and make such a fantastic host.
Thank you, Casey! I'm glad I'm not the only one that's mad at the people without kicks learning Spanish and getting all their house projects done while in quarantine.
Loved, loved, loved this interview. Thank you for such a real conversation between two people and what i see now are friends. Enjoyed it so much. Go JoJo....
I had to pause (26:00 mark) because of something Casey said. It is absolutely important to take into account how much weight we put on how people view us. And even more so, when that perception is out of our control. The physicality of how we perceive those and how we interject our wants/desires/needs from people in media is really important and often not spoken about. We as a consumer have a responsibility to moderate the strength of our "fealty" to any one person in the spot light. We may want from them, things they cannot provide, and in that want we push them to do things that may be harming them. This is such a vital concept that I think is really lost in todays society.
Please have Mama Doctor Jones!! 👩⚕️
She’s amazing! (I know someone already mentioned her) I just have to say it again because she’s so knowledgeable & an amazing conversationalist! 💛
Don’t think Phil is that interested in what she has to say. Let’s be honest: it’s not the best match.
i agree I would love to hear about her perspective of having such a life changing decision postponed because of Covid19
I love listening to A Convo With at night to relax. I think the use of the cards is interesting and makes the show even more entertaining
This has been one of the most spectacular podcasts I’ve ever listened too. Thank you both so much for this fucking amazing hour and a half.
agreed! so honest and truthful it was a pleasure to listen to
"I constantly feel like i'm constantly inconveniencing people". It's that good ol Catholic guilt. I feel like i'm always being a bother to everyone. Hahaha.
A Conversation with Jojo Siwa would actually be wild. More realistically Colleen Ballinger
Really enjoyed this. I love hearing you both just discuss life, family, and other random things. Thanks for making it!
"I hid in the bathroom and watched tiktoc for 10 minutes" haha as a cat-dad I can relate to this so hard. When I adopted a kitten last year she became so attached she was by my side every second of the day and even slept in my arms. She was underweight and really food aggressive so I had to eat all my meals hiding in the bathroom so she wouldn't climb all over me. I could only be away for a couple minutes before she would go ballistic attacking the door so I had to eat really fast and enjoy my moment alone while I could get it =P
The whole sidekick friend and resentment thing...definitely feel that
Out of work right now and don't know if I ever get my job back. My 2 daughters love Casey. And to hear him mentioning ppl not being able to feed there kids...is more of a issue than ppl know...😪 lost. Best wishes Phil and Casey..
It’s so cool seeing this different style video from the PDS (both awesome in different respects) Phil you should do like mini Convo With but with people from the Nation! I think I’d be a cool way of just seeing what/how other people are doing or even like lighter topics on how long they’ve watched (looking at you B&W vids in the backyard😅)
Thanks guys!! Love you both! Here since SxePhil
My two favorite UA-camrs of all Time, getting me through the day. Thanks Phil 🙏🏼
Maybe I just had a rough day at work, but this conversation will be one of my favourite UA-cam Vids ever
Gah, Casey always has the best off-the-cuff answers for questions!
I like how the Apple's microphone sound quality is the opposite to how much it costs 🙈
When even Casey Neistat cant find a way to focus and knuckle down during this time...you know the situation is unique.
I think a very good point to realize is it we adults have lived these many years with these many experiences that allow us to either make wiser decisions or get incredibly apprehensive when something new is present.
Now, put that in the perspective of somebody who's only had five years of her life: a child. They are confronting this problem without many years experience, and then being asked to cope with it without those years of experience. This quarantine is quickly becoming an exceptional fraction of their life because of how long it's taking. They are growing up in a world where it is a significant portion of their known existence is being dictated by a pandemic.
We do not have the ability to properly empathize with the plight they are dealing with right now. A grown adult can lose a year of their life and blow it off to bad mistakes. For a child, is that loss is unfathomable outside the circumstances of War or absolute poverty. Think about it: a child in a country that barely eats to begin with isn't going to notice anything about what's going on right now.
Our best and most noble effort would be to empathize with our children now and only then, begin to explain the nature of the world they live in now. If you can't empathize with your children right now, it's probably best if you don't try to least you give them ideas that are untenable in the future. Just try to care for them and hope they can figure it out for themselves.
I would not mind a whole podcast where Phil and Casey just talk about random stuff. I love them together and their conversations are always super interesting 🥰
Man, Casey is the creator goat. Bittersweet seeing him on these videos. Overall though, just so much gratitude for what he’s done. Thanks Phil for doing these.
Love hearing Casey talk about money and how he feels it will effect his kids growing up.
I gotta say, I enjoyed the whole conversation but that last minute about Jojo made me smile. I love it!
Are these podcasts only available on UA-cam?? I tried looking for it on Google Play Music and couldn't find it under their podcasts section. Thanks!! Love this episode... great job guys!
6:18 where they are talking about current projects....that lack of direction and motivation has been me at university this semester.
At 40:30, I understood what they meant. The obstacles that you go through help you become wiser. Like a very sheltered kid will most likely be stunted emotionally and in many other ways in life. And then when they have to face something big, they may not be as prepared or poised as someone who's gone through much more. Probably emotionally a lot more stressed about it.
Did you know there's a video in mixed in somewhere in these commercials?
These are the Times i need caseyvlogs the most
i love how Casey went off at the end there. go jojo!
can you do a virtual mancave kind of thing where you get really chill people and just have a larger "conversation with"?
like, markiplier + casey + idk, james charles?
just to shake things up.
Its always fun to watch Phil and Casey talk.
Damn, getting hit with those ads every 3 minutes XD
It's so disruptive!
I agree... its tough to follow along, I get that its a way to make money, but makes it hard to watch
This is by far the best podcast you’ve done so far.
A conversation with Joe rogan is something I want badly
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Phillip, this interview between you and Casey was phenomenal! You have a new subscriber in me!
When you do online interviews, you should ask Casey to record his video or at least his audio as well.
Then you edit over his sound so it syncs
Pro tips
Phil, these podcasts don’t seem to be appearing in the normal podcast feeds such as Apple or Spotify. The past couple I’ve went to listen to on apple podcasts haven’t been there. Is there anyway you can fix this?
When Casey said that trump would give universal healthcare I literarily gasped because I just made a presentation about inequalities in our world and I chose to do universal healthcare no one cares but I just wanted to share this lol
I doubt it would work in the US. It has downsides. Just remember one thing, it costs to have better healthcare
Favorite two individuals to hear talk! Great podcast
Alright this will probably be an unpopular opinion but I really want to share my 2 cents.
The bit where Casey talks about mariuhana hits close to home.
I have been addicted to weed for the past10 years. And it started quite the same as it (apparentely) did with Casey. Earlier in my life I did it sporadically when friends had it on them and I just smoked along. Maybe a couple of times a year. But then I got into a relationship with someone who also liked to smoke and it became a daily habit. I got to know way more people who I could buy it from. It just became so much more easier to get some.
And it became an addiction. Truth be said I had some mental issues which of course played into it but I didn't recognize it that way. In the beginning it was all fun and games. Just a way to let of some steam and relax. I remember fondly getting high and watching classic movies like 2001 a space odyssey. It was so much more immersive. Everything was. I could get into this fantastical state of mind I just couldn't when I was sober.
But it didn't stay that way and it gradually became something I needed to escape. At the end I smoked about 7 joints a day, every day, just to not be present and get through my day. But I couldn't recognize it. I mean, it's just weed right? There's way more severe drugs to be addicted to, it's not a big deal surely.
I know mariuhana is perceived as a drug that isn't all that harmful but I personally don't agree with that. It very much can be. That doesn't mean I'm saying that it is without a doubt. But it can be. And it is very sneaky. More so because we don't perceive it to be all that bad.
The thing is that if you are addicted you probably won't see it that way. But there is a very simple test to find out. Just stay away from it for a while and see if you can do without. If you're sure you are not addicted that shouldn't be a problem. And for some people that very much can be the case. I personally don't have a problem with alcohol. I like to drink when I'm at a social gathering but I never drink at home. With weed that is a totally different case. If I have it laying around I can't say no to it.
I smoked my last joint december 31 2019, almost 5 months sober now and I don't plan on going back. The difference is huge. I feel so much better mentally. The thing that struck me with Casey is that he said that he can't focus to get things done now in quarantine. And that might be true for him but that's exactly how I felt when I smoked. It just didn't matter all that much, weed was all I needed. Now that I am sober and in this quarantine situation I have been creating pretty much every single day.
All I am saying is that it needs nuance, weed isn't harmless but you need to decide that for yourself. Just be aware of the reasons why you smoke and if you feel like it is difficult to do without it's maybe time to look into that. I wish they just would acknowledge this in this podcast.
If you read all this, thank you, I wish you a wonderful day and stay safe.
Where did he get those questions!! I went them for my apartment!!
I think he mentioned in the last podcast that they're a game called Skin Deep or something?
Yes I can confirm it’s skin deep , just Google search it @andyXz _ it came up for me
Love these podcasts! Please keep them coming Phil! 👏🏼👏🏼
These give me so much joy.
What are the questions that you use and where can I find them and force my hinge matches to do them with me pls lmk
I've been searching all over for this, I think they might be 100 questions from the school of Life but I'm not sure
Check the the PhillyD murch store. I think they sell a custom set of cards.
I'm getting an ad like every 2 minutes. Anyone else?
Phil's laugh is everything!!! 26:15
you are describing my life when you described how you would live in this situation without kids. 😂
I like Casey's work a lot. I've been a huge fan ever since the mid oughts, loved his early DIY-videos and HBO series. His vlog series was super creative and hard to produce but I'm not a big fan of how he gets praise for "daily vlogs" on YT, almost like he invented it. There are people like Charles Trippy who have been doing it for 11+ years. Sure, it's mostly home video and easier to produce but the genre is much older. If anything, Casey upped the genre with his style.
why is Phil looking right under the camera lol neither directly at me or his webcam
watching this show after the quarantine, and what Philip described - If he didnt have kids, he'd just be a normal person, log onto work then eat edibles for the rest of the day - I'm a DINK and thats exactly what I did lol
Why is this episode not been uploaded to podcast app
this podcast is the ultimate subtle advertisement for Call of Duty Warzone.
Phil, keep it up! :) always something good to listen to!
love these interviews. keep em coming please!
I have just recently started watching UA-cam and I really enjoy Phil. Look at me, like we are on a 1st name basis!! The news depresses me so I learn of current events through him and just now found this!!! I may be old enough to be his mom but love his view on edibles!!! If I could, I would eat em all day long!!! If he reads comments....Love Ya and keep up the great work!!!!
Casey Neistat talking about edibles. 2020 is crazyyy
I love these during this time it helps me so much thank you so much ❤️
What are those cards called? They seem great!
Loved the interview - I like Casey Neistat. Did not appreciate ads every 3 minutes. Especially because this video is also sponsored.
I'm excited, nervous, and sad for when Phil makes this move he has been talking about for a while. It will be odd to think that he won't be on YT. I've been coming back to Phil for the last 10 years. When I think of YT I think of Phil. But I also understand for his time to move on. And I'll be there for as long as he is still putting his voice out there.
It's so strange to me that people assume mushrooms would be more comfortable just because the natural-drug connotations make them seem less intimidating than LSD. Acid is soooo much more predictable, dose-controllable, and just a more elegant simple mental trip. Shrooms give a weird body high that not everyone likes (I don't like it unless I take a very small mild token amount just for a light high) and the trip screws a lot more with your sense of space and time than LSD does. On shrooms, the bus way down the street can feel like it's about to hit you. On LSD, sure your brain is on fire about the universe and how the shape of a torus-model universe dividing for multiple universe theory is a lot like cell division and you feel like everything is super important and whatnot, but at least you can stay pretty clear on how far away the walls are, even if you can also relax while looking at the walls and see patterns dancing on them lol. I think dose is far far less intimidating and much milder and a more manageable trip, and I really think people should try it (at a pretty mild dose, just one hit or half a hit) FIRST before exploring stuff like shrooms or DMT or even strong salvia.
Phil do you sell the question cards? They're quite fun and I'd like to try them with my friends...
This podcast continues to just be Philip DeFranco presents therapy.
Casey is a LEGEND!
Great Podcast for Tomorrow, already leaving a like :)
I always thaught of Casey Nestat as that youtuber with the shades, but this made met get SOOO much respect for the dude👌
What’s the name of that deck of cards? I wanna buy them.
I think you should have Matthew Santoro on!! He’s an OG creator and I feel like he’s such an interesting person to talk to!