Every single time I get to sit down with John (which is really, really rare over our 14 years together on UA-cam) I get so excited. I hope y'all enjoy this one as much as I enjoyed filming it.
There's such a respect between you too and you're both so well respected! I got so excited for this podcast! Definitely will enjoy this!
Love it. I really enjoy your conversations with your podcast folks. I get to learn more about people I am a fan of and you are REALLY good at this.
Thank you for all you do Phil!
The fact that John is a DM for his kids is the best thing I've learned this week. What a wholesome tidbit.
Hey, thanks for the shout out, John. Can you two please just continue this excellent convo until the fog clears in 2021? Or at least until our pre-order of The Anthropocene Reviewed book arrives? Thanks.
"I'm such a fanboy of my parents" john, stop it. Stop being adorable
John and Hank are Good Humans™ and are wealthy enough to buy fancy houses and fancy cars but they’re too busy trying to solve problems like literacy and maternal mortality and organizing their charity and stuff. Been around since the B2.0 days and I’m still so freaking proud of what they’ve built. ♡
Yes, and same. They, and especially John, have had the most impact on my life and who I want to be than any other people.
@@TMParrish2011 Same. I'm very glad that of all the online communities I could have fallen into at an impressionable age, it was Nerdfighteria. And Hank and John have continued to be positive influences into adulthood. Extremely grateful for them.
Yes! I’ve been through a lot of cringey phases in my life, and like 90% of the time I’m a bit embarrassed about all the things I used to be obsessed with. But John & Hank have really held up. They’re really just solid guys.
I'm always soothed by John's general insightfulness and optimism... these days it means more to me than ever. So glad you got him on the podcast!
Check out his podcast, the Anthropocene Reviewed (if you don't listen already). Googling Strangers is particularly powerful, but, for me, each episode is very high quality.
General optimism? Maybe he shows this side more in his podcasts with Hank, but to me John seems PRETTY pessimistic. I've heard him talk about how all of human society and the planet is going to die out, how he doesn't think we'll still be around in 500 years, how nothing matters because of oblivion... Idk, maybe I'm misinterpreting him, but I do remember feeling really down after listening to that lmao. Maybe he's more optimistic now, that's definitely what I need in my life rn.
@@ellap6828 he kind of swings between optimism and pessimism. I think his pessimism is sometimes a little tongue-in-cheek, or perhaps using dry humor as a way he softens the intensity. But he does often talk about his hope for the world and how life is meaningful.
@@itsmekatiep Agreed. A lot of people conflate optimism with constant happiness. This is what optimism looks like in someone who is neurodivergent. I have been a fan of his for years and years and he has fantastic emotional intelligence and he has talked about the realities of really difficult situations and his reflections always end on a hopeful optimistic note.
Now Phil has to be a guest on Dear Hank and John to complete the circle of podcasts
I'm only halfway through the video and John has so far mentioned being the older sibling twice. It is so subtle yet sooo on brand
They are actually only 2.5 years apart. I don't know how long John has been saying 3.5 years for, but he's wrong. He's said that he's bad at math, but this is just too funny. I mean, they are 3 grades apart, but less than 3 years.
@@alwayzjello honestly me too. My sister is two years too but me and my family said she’s still 8 for the longest time we genuinely have to stop and think how old she is
John Green, famous and incredible author/Essayist, running a D&D club for his Son and friends, while also doing nature walks with his daughter, thats some A+ parenting. Also shoutout to Sarah Urist Green (John's Wife) too! Check out the Art Assignment and her book! :D
We're all still shocked that Phil's oldest is a Kindergartener, meanwhile Henry is over here in 4th grade!?!! Where has life gone?
Dude I was a sophomore in high school when Henry was born. How the heck did that happen so quickly??
@@oreokitty333 I think I was about the same. Obama was still in office when Alice was born, but man...
John sounds like he’s gonna cry 50% of the time and it makes me wonder how much is going on in that magnificent mind of his 🥺
“The idea of disappointing my parents guts me” -John green
“The realization that as a parent I just want to take away pain from my children”-John green
John Green saying his most important writing of the week is his son’s Dungeons & Dragons game made me actually cry! How WHOLESOME
Always interesting to see how similar John speaks in his edited vlogbrothers videos as he does in an unedited podcast. His story about how his dad cried @32:19 made me tear up
I'm not bawling my eyes out.. I'm not you hear me! Nope, no tears here.
everyone always bugs john about his characters, "PEOPLE DONT TALK THAT WAY!" but John DOES talk that way lol
I get the sense that John is an empath, and he carries a lot of the weight of the worries and burdens of the world around him. I feel like his heart is heavy.
How could you not be after all the stuff that has happened in the last six years?
"He loves me all the way down"... what a sweet, moving story.... and also such a John Green way of stating something.... Turtles All The Way Down anyone? ;)
The talks about parents feeling the hurt of their children means a lot to me.
Finally... A UA-camr that even my teachers would recognize.
That makes me wonder if Henry and Alice's teachers ever use Crash Course? I would feel so odd being like, "Alright kids, for the rest of class time we're gonna be watching Henry's uncle!"
@@DFTBA221BThat would be funny, but hopefully the teachers have enough common sense to realize how much bullying that would likely lead to.
@@dasha_ucko Oh, for sure. I'd never do that if one of my students were in that position. If anything, I'd be more nervous about what mom and dad thought of my teaching!
@@DFTBA221B Yeah, imagine all the pressure having a kid's parents be some of the smartest people on earth. Considering how much money they have though, they probably go to a private school with great teachers.
The moment when John said “I knew he loved me all the way down” literally made me cry from how true and important it was. Thank you both for an excellent conversation.
Phil:Is this the third tier soccer team you Talked about forever ago
John, who talked about it last week: yeah...
John writing a complex DnD campaign that goes over the kids' head sounds like a new book idea right there, haha.
I love the Green brothers so much, such a gift to the internet and world generally.
Hank swearing doesn't catch me off guard anymore but when John does it I still like *gasp!* 😂😂
You should have heard him going off in the green room at that VidCon "conflict" they spoke about in this convo. Many a curse was thrown around.
check out some bloopers from crash course john swears like a sailor hahaha
John's story about his dad crying with him made me cry on the spot. Holy shit John, that's a beautiful story. Your Dad is amazing.
OMG John.... I didn’t sign my permission slip for this feel trip. 🥲
I remember when he was doing interviews for The Fault In Our Stars, and thinking... based on what I know... this is probably pure hell for him.
"you feel so much" YES! And he makes other people feel, I am half an hour into the conversation and already crying.
Like, how can somebody make a 4 min video about a TREE that makes me cry every. fucking. time. I watch it
This is the first convo I've seen in this series where Phil doesn't appear to be trying to 'win over' his guest. I think that's why this convo seems the most authentic and uncontrived.
Well because phill is probably the only person who can relate to Hank and John when it comes to work
I almost feel like Phil is still kind of that kid who wanted friends he was talking about when it comes to other youtube people. I think he cares a lot about what other people think probably, but there's just something incredibly calming and empathetic about John Green
I also think being confrontational/combative with someone you just met is a quick way to get them to mistrust and dislike you, which makes a very productive podcast
@@xinsanedefeatx of course I agree we need to consider this is a podcast. I just meant that Phil seems like a people pleaser in general. Many of us are. It's not always a bad thing
John Green has been the person, besides anyone in my immediate family and friends, where he brings me so much joy and being able to seek emotional guidance in his work. John, you have affected me in so many ways as I was going through hard things and for that I thank you immensely. I hope the community brings you that same unaltered happiness that we feel🙏🏻
John Green a published novelist is being the Dungeon master for his kids and their friends. I feel like he might be good at it.
12:40 "It's easy to confuse what's important with what's easy to measure"
my mom actually called me the other day, apropos of (seemingly) absolutely NOTHING, and asked me, voice quavering in the most subtle way...
"was i a bully to you?"
We’re STILL WAITING FOR HANK AND JOHN ON AT THE SAME TIME!!
May I recommend their podcast: Dear Hank and John. If you do not listen already. Tis a delightfully dubious advise podcast and gives a good amount of the Brothers: Green
When he was talking about being energized by a conversation I felt that. I'm an introvert and my country is opening back up seeing and talking to people again is weird, I keep forgeting I'm not on a video call and can't just mute myself.
Surprise surprise John manages to make me cry yet again.
Not me, crying on my way to work listening to John Green describe a touching moment with his father
John is and will always be the coolest person on the internet in the best meaning of the word
i've been a mega fan of john green and his ULTIMATE SINCERITY since i was a teenager and the internet/youtube was just getting started. it's so nice to just keep growing up with his insight, earnestness, and humor.
You have made a massive impact in my life Phil. I started watching you in 2012(the year I graduated high school). I went from a terrified girl scared of what Obama was going to do to our country and the world ending, to, voting to reelected Obama. You helped educate me and shaped the person I am today. Thank you 💜
I desperately want read what John wrote in dungeons and dragons for those kids
My teacher back in Middle School would use John's Crash Course at least once a week. I'm 23 now and every now and then still pop on a video. Crash Course is a part of my Childhood that'll never let go. Thank you, John.
"you feel so much"- that is what I've always felt after reading John's books
I love john green. he is a whole human striving to influence a generation which seems to value only certain parts of the human condition.
36:38 “You feel so much”. Ugh, yes. It’s been so inspiring to see people who are so empathetic and so emotional achieve success and do good with it.
John’s answer to what he does that he enjoys that’s not part of a business is so wholesome!
Family time!?! ☺️
Two of my favorite internet people having a conversation that, in it's essence, reminds me of what's important in life. Thanks for this conversation John and Phil, it was the highlight of my day!
I could listen to John talk forever.
Love how John is palpably a little anxious but Phil puts him right at ease with it truly being A Conversation instead of vibing like an interview or feature or whatever. The vulnerability Phil opens with just sets the tone beautifully and I love how he handles every guest. Such a valuable and fascinating podcast.
“I like capitalism and I hate nature”
*YES! Been waiting for an episode with John Green forever. Love you John. You're a huge inspiration.*
Its very refreshing to have an incredibly smart human being speak in such a humble way. I can assume John's vocab is vast, but I enjoy the relaxing tone and casual air about this video. It didn't make me feel as if the Greene's are holier-than-thou.
Cue me tearing up when John spoke about his dad crying with him after the middle school dance. That is one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard.
I have never clicked so fast in my life
I genuinely believe that the best things UA-cam has given us are Vlogbrothers and Bo Burnham. Sensitivity, introspection and complexity in their work and sincerity and graciousness in how they relate to others. Love this one!
its bad enough that I cry at the end of almost every episode of the anthropocene reviewed, how did john make me cry watching this
i thought i was the only one who cried at the end of every episode of the athropocene reviewed😭
Dude I could listen to you two talk for forever. John also just has a way of expressing his thoughts and beliefs that pulls me in. Loved this episode! Also the fact that John is a DM for his kids. That must be a fun campaign!
Finally! I been wanting this to happen for years
I feel very grateful to have grown up with John and Hank Green as leader figures. They have shaped what I value and appreciate so much, I'm not even sure I'd be the same woman if it weren't for having stumbled upon the Vlogbrothers in 2009. Makes me emotional!
My sister and I are four years apart and it took us a while to start doing stuff together. I took more of a carer role when we were children because our parents couldn't be around that much and we used to watch TV together but that was it. Our relationship has definitely got better and closer in our twenties and I love her to pieces.
Yes! My sister is 3 years older than me. I don’t think we really started to become friends until she left for college and we were 16 and 19. Now we’re very close.
wow a collab i never expected but im so happy about!!!
John Green is just the best
I absolutely loved his podcast “the anthropecene reviewed” so sad to see it end for the foreseeable future
He said in a recent Vlogbrothers that there'll be a couple new Anthropocene episodes in 2021, I think :)
Phil, you've made as much impact on my life as John, for completely different reasons. I get a lot of philosophical advice to think about and adapt from John. You give me introspection on news as it comes and help frame how to approach the stress without it being overwhelming when it's told straight up in the news or commented on seriously by other news commentators. That's a life skill. Thank you.
It's incredible watching two of my favorite, old school youtubers sit down and chat. Both of you are incredible and it feels like a gift getting to hear the two of you chat
I'll take 10 more hours of this, please. 😍
This was a really sweet and wholesome conversation. Phil has this certain overwhelming presence for himself even when he is interviewing people, but with John it seems that Phil really just wants to sit back and enjoy everything that is said
This was a lovely conversation, I feel enriched for having witnessed it. Thank you to both of you for your openness and sincerity!
30:30 That is just so precious. Thank you for this episode. Conversations like these are so important to have because they open our minds to the most delicate thoughts other people have. It makes us realize that we aren't alone in having these vulnerabilities, and that is just such a comforting thing to know. Also, to see it being put into words so beautifully was honestly so refreshing. Thank you.
To say I've been wanting this forever is an understatement. I'm so excited!!!!
john's continual emphasis on our attention as a resource and as something valuable always reassures me, makes me feel better, and reminds me that simply by engaging with media, we have an impact
God, I loved that one so much! The conversation was so genuine and filled with great, heartfelt insights from both John and Phil. Truly amazing.
I think this is the first time I've ever heard John swear, and I've been watching since 2007
every time john speaks about things like in this conversation I'm reminded of just how much I am grateful that I discovered him and Hank at such a young age. Like, i know they did lots of silly things on the internet but they also taught and continue to teach me so much about what being an adult is, about critical thinking and about empathy. Thank you Phil this was real rad (and i definitely didnt cry when john talked about his dad crying with him after his middle school dance)
These kinds of conversations are what will make Internet World better in the next 5 years. Thank the heavens for men like you and John Green....bringing some insight to how culture will be formed moving forward.
I'm so glad I watched and listen to this entire episode. Will definitely be listening to this again. Much to think on and research. Thank you, DeFranco Team and John!
Just wanted to say I love the ACWs. All are so different and all of them are wonderful. You do an excellent job of getting interesting stories from all your guests. Thanks again!!
Listening to the podcast while working on activities for my students, I started thinking on what did John and Phil taught me since the beginning back in 2007. Thank you John for teaching me how to be a better sister, and how to value sisterhood and when I think of them I see how you and Hank influenced that. Phil thank you for giving me the capacity and ability to think for myself, listen to others, have an opinion. And both, thank you for making me feel less alone and talk about mental health without shame and having honest conversations. I feel part of nerdfighteria and the bastards even thousand of miles (Km where I live) away. Love all the way from Uruguay!
I can't give you the amount of love you deserve for how much acceptance I've felt from you. Thank you for everything you given to me
I did not expect to cry at work watching this over lunch. This was so great. I loved the stories about parenting.
There is content on this platform that feeds you. This is some of it. Thank you
I feel like Phil and the green brothers will have a project together sometime in the future and I think it will benefit all of us.
This is so well done. Great insights from John and you are an amazing interviewer. Asking great questions /follow-ups and adding to the chill vibe by adding your own thoughts the perfect amount! I’m impressed!
Thank you to the UA-cam algorithm making me more grateful for my parents, I'm usually selective about my podcasts but this one is definitely making the list! Love the raw-ness from both of yall
"You feel so much!" LOL I liked when Phil said that. I think John is a really empathetic person. You can see it even over a podcast. No wonder he's such a creative person
John Green has made me cry too many times and I appreciate it so much.
John Green is just one of my favourite humanbeings period!
This was such a joy to listen to. John was such a big part of my childhood and I’m glad to see he’s doing great these days as well.
This was a truly delightful conversation. It’s been like a decade since I’ve watched any Philip DeFranco videos, and he and John had such a wonderful, thoughtful conversation here. It was a pleasure to listen to, thanks for making this Phil.
Loved this episode. Two people who I've been watching on youtube for years and years and you can just see the growth and feel the warmth. This has really set me up for a good day :)
37:25 - "What I learned holding up these shields for so long, is that they were ways of trying to protect myself from the reality/depth of experience... & In that sense they were wasted uses of my attention, because what I really want to be is alive to the experiences that are out there... & So I'm still trying to put down those shields, and feel things/be open to things" - Beautifully said John... Gosh I can relate 🌹🌈🔆
My favorite episode of this podcast so far. John is so endearing and comforting to listen to
I love the wave at the end. I do that all the time with Zoom and Teams meetings, can't help myself.
Im only 1/2 way through this and it is already hands down the most enjoyable podcast I have listened to. This guy is amazing
I really appreciate John as a human being.
Thank you for sharing. This was an inspiring and enlightening conversation to listen to
The fact that I didn't know John had another book coming out until now makes me so frustrated lmao I can't wait to get it 💛💛💛💛
Have you listened to the podcast that is based on? It's really really good!
Ugh instant tears as John started talking about his father crying, what a beautifully articulated insight on that moment.
What a great conversation. Thank Phil, and thanks John.
that's some moving stuff john experienced with his dad
Possibly the last Convo of 2020?! And it's a damn good one... believe me.
There's a mindfulness book titled "30 Days to Reduce Anxiety" by Harper Daniels. It's super helpful. It's on Amazon.
Two of my favourite creators having great discussions. Thank you!
There's no way that was Skype video. John recorded his end and sent it over to you, didn't he?
@@McHaven07 so you think they scripted their entire conversation.? 😂🤦🏻♀️
The longer I listen to this the more I’m convinced that this is the best thing I’ve watched/listen to in a long time. 🥰😭 my heart is full