I don't know man, I love Odyssey and all... But I just can't put it above the classic "Mario is missing." Now if you're looking for a masterpiece that is both linear, and open world, that's the best one of them all.
CasualGamePlayz Yeah that was one I wasn’t sure about. I gave the edge to 64 just because I remembered feeling so much more comfortable with the controls in 64 than I did in Sunshine. Maybe the fact that I used an emulator for 64 and a GameCube for sunshine might have influenced me. I can see how Sunshine is probably better though.
Harry Beaven Yeah, i can see why you would think that if you used an emulator. The N64 control stick was ass XD Didnt help the DS remake went a step further and lacked a control stick!
yeah I could see that, on one end you have the great sandbox titles like Odyssey and Sunshine, and the other end you have great linear games like 3, world, and even 3D World (which is just a better Galaxy game personally). And Galaxy is stuck in between not really as either one.
Galaxies are the best 3D Mario games, period. 64 is great, Sunshine is flawed, Odyssey is too easy and bloated making moon collections feel trivial. They are all good with sunshine at the bottom. Mgalaxies are the peak of the franchise in 3D.
im going to give my honest opinion I cannot like mario galaxy because of the controls mario doesnt feel like he's supposed to be running on the space he is I just cant get passed it I always switch gravity and its very disorienting "oh it turned upside down, do I go the same direction or do I go the opposite way, ill try going the opposite way. OOPS I got hit shoulda known I would've moved there"
The mechanics in Odyssey are going to stand the test of time. Unbelievably fluid, I can't wait to see if Nintendo can top his moveset, it seems like they could refine it in many ways but it's so good right now. Before Odyssey came out, I thought that Galaxy controlled like a dream so you never know!
Unfriendly Dude Yes, It controls better than galaxy actually, you're right. I know that 64/Sunshine/Odyssey are more sandbox type games with different movesets compared to the other 3d games but I didn't really like Sunshine so I guess I just forgot about it :p
Galaxy controls alright, but Mario feels so sluggish and slow in that game then any other, I always prefer the other games (especially Sunshine) for better movement. Though the reason Sunshine is so hit-or-miss is that while having some of the best controls and movement options for many players (one of the reasons its one of the top most speedrun games ever), it sadly falls victim to its rushed development (it and Wind waker had notorious development issues) making its level design not always consistent or good. So its level design, though not all bad, makes it hard for those who focus more on level/world design than character control, which is why those who disliked Sunshine love Galaxy, because it has the opposite problem. Galaxy has structured levels, and quite a lot of them, but its gameplay is slow and pretty bland, but it constantly gives you other gameplay gimmicks so you don't get too tired of the normal controls. However I would say that 3D World improves the Galaxy style level design much more, allowing for more secrets and paths so the levels have more depth than just looking pretty, while bringing a more diverse faster moveset akin to 64/sunshine so it never gets too samey/tiring. Though then its a matter of whether you like the open world style or obstacle course style more.
I think I'll like Galaxy's controls more because the long jump and wall jump in Odyssey look kind of lame. ...Same with the dive but that's a little more understandable, because it has to work with Cappy.
People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly... timey-wimey... stuff.
odyssey as just a treat in general, its one the most in-depth and meticulously designed games i have played in recent memory. Yes, some moons are easy to get and really straight forward, but it never feels like too much for me. Finding moons so frequently keeps a certain momentum going, and it makes every little part of the levels that they have designed have purpose. It's a very fulfilling experience
Mario Odyssey is a great game, but it just feels very bare and barren to me. The kingdoms just don't give me the same feel as levels in other Mario games. My experience with Mario Odyssey is that when you're done, you're done. You can't replay bosses or the required moons like you can replay levels in Mario Galaxy or 3D Land/World. Maybe I've just got a linear mind: I do tend to prefer 2d games anyway.
Still, they're their. If anything it gives Mario Odyssey more replay valie becaise of how open it is, so you can deside to go a completely different path every time you replay the game.
Since there's hundreds of subpar moons in Odyssey, I can't help but feel Galaxy is a better game. Every star in Galaxy means something, and there's so many interesting ideas done first in Galaxy that maybe haven't even been in the Mario games since. Odyssey is still a dang good game though, don't get me wrong.
Gamesforus I agree on that end - Cappy is so much better than the spin jump. But things were more imaginative on the side of galaxies and even level design in some cases
For you guys saying there’s no platforming in Odyssey have you tried: Sand Kingdom Metro Kingdom Wooded Kingdom Cascade Kingdom..... Wait let me ask you something else Have you played the game?
well as you get older you are less able to generate nostalgia with new experiences, even if Odyssey was better objectively you wouldn't know because you didn't grow up with it. This is why so many dislike 3D World, despite it being superior to the Galaxy games in almost every way, but gets forgotten so much because everyone was already too old to enjoy it like they could Galaxy. The best thing to do is figure out why you like the game beyond nostalgia, and start to understand its shortcomings so you can enjoy other games later on. So for me I love Sunshine, but I know, outside of the nostalgia of its atmosphere and music, that its because of its great gameplay, the controls are great and its moveset varied with a lot of ways go places. But its shortcomings are in its level design, where the main areas are all good, each level or objective within aren't as consistently good.
Callinater Probably because you were sick of the Galaxy style gameplay by then but still enjoyed the Galaxy games because you liked them before, or you were never interested in the gameplay but more the story and atmosphere and 3d World's eviroments didn't appeal to you the way outer space did in Galaxy. 'Cause otherwise I can't see how galaxy was better than 3d World outside of personal preference to the atmosphere.
(maybe spoilers) it was honestly going to be my favorite Mario game ever, until i found out that after collecting so many moons for the next ‘secret worlds’, they just turned out to be different sides of the moon.. was SO disappointed.. was imagining some amazing Star Worlds that Mario games usually have.. but the moon areas were just so lifeless and dull (in my opinion) if it wasn’t for that, I would’ve called it better than Super Mario World on the SNES anyway, can’t wait to see what they do with Mario next :)
PokeJake 28 fair enough, mate. i just distinctly remember being presented with those areas after collecting hundreds of moons, and thinking ‘is that it?’
Dark Side was annoying to me because of the Broodals/low-gravity thing, but it made up for it (slightly) by putting a bunch of hint art afterwards. I'm a brainteaser nerd, so that was a blast. Darker Side was a nice challenge, for sure. I still have Super Mario Galaxy 2 as my favorite game of all time, but SMO nudged its way into my top 5 (I'm not sure where, though).
missing chromosomes YES! I was so excited for the Ruined Kingdom because castles and stuff like that is fascinating in video games, but they, ironically, ruined it! There were like 12 moons there total. The pamphlet had a bunch of interesting lore that they didn't build upon. Super disappointing. Same goes for the Cloud Kingdom.
Mario Galaxy 1 is the best. It had compelling characters as far as mario games go and the hub world was at times annoying but still gave a nice/ fitting ambiance. Also levels in galaxy had a nice challenge and sense of development. My first playthrough of odyssey I was genuinely disappointed but went back to try enjoying it more. The problem with odyssey is you have to go out of your way to be challenged. Basically it's main gameplay really only is a series of mini games which don't create much challenge or sense of progression. So objectively I can't say odyssey is a better game, but it's open world and challenges do work to its favor (but again the main game play is lackluster). I will admit that odyssey has a much better replay value than galaxy based off the easy nature of odyssey as a game.
What's with this stupid idea that linear = bad? The original games were linear also. So acting like 3D World was so different and unlike Mario is just plain stupid when it's so much more like Mario than Mario 64.
It's hard for me to say if it's the best Mario game imo. I mean it's definitely my favorite of the 3D Mario games, hands down, since it fixes & improves nearly all the issues I had with previous 3D Mario games, but in terms of being my favorite Mario game of all time, I don't know I need to spend a little more time with the game & see if it really tops Super Mario World as my favorite Mario game.
It is NOT the best 3D Mario game _ever_. It will be crushed in 4 years by Mario Odyssey: Nintendoverse, where you travel Kirby Kingdom (Dreamland), Zelda Kingdom (Hyrule), Lylat Kingdom etc etc
yeah nintendo will pull something along those lines, as they all live in the same universe, and in an episode of send your letters to mario, mario's inbox has mail from kirby. so you never know
The problem with Super Mario Odyssey is the nonlinear stuff didn't seem important enough so it felt really short. I think BOTW did a better job making the nonlinear stuff important.
If you’re comparing sm64 now to smo now, then yeah smo is clearly better. But it’s an unfair comparison, smo is what it is partly because of its history. It’s had all that time to improve on the previous. A fairer way to compare is to look at smo now and compare that to sm64 then. And I think most would agree that sm64 had a much bigger impact on gameplay on release than smo did on its release.
I actually disagree on odyssey's structure. Until post game it felt really linear, at least to me, as by the time you did the main story in the world (which was basically just a galaxy level) you had enough moons to progress and I hated how until you beat the game the worlds didn't have all the content. Why couldn't you just be let loose to free roam from the start with all the content at your disposal?
Joe Cromarty Most of the game is post game though. It's linear to get you through a coherent (though obviously super simple story), then open for the last 80%.
i think that Mario Odyssey was more of a experiment rather than a fully game. See, it combines many things from many past games that can offer a fantastic experience. This is like to demonstrate how a game can combine many aspects of a franchise, give more possibilities, and show how amazing the Mario's universe really is and how cool can get in the future. It some kind of Mario Mania.
Odyssey has the best parts of mario 64 and so much more! I almost wish this was the last mario game because nothing that follows will compare. Love the channel by the way
cal 6ixGod -unless they make a game that plays like Oddysey, allows you to switch between Cappy, and flood, and tons of other assistants. Where the story is much more intense and serious, but still Mario like. Is completely open world, and has the best music in a Mario game ever! That could out do Oddysey.
Yes, it is the best Mario Game ever. :) Lots of fun and lots of polish. I am having a great time playing it with my daughter. We switch off who controls Mario and who controls Cappy. We have had tons of fun!
I guess for me, I feel like Odyssey has everything I loved about Mario 64, but with more, it looks better, they added a mini multiplayer, it feels great etc. Do you know what about Mario 64 makes that more special in your opinion?
Sounds rad. I LOVED Mario 64 on DS. That was really fun to see that game run on a DS as well. I loved being the different characters as well. The original Mario 64 didn't have that. Fun game :)
Mario Odyssey is rlly good for being non-linear. It has the best controls and you can make your own challenge in stuff like koopa freerunning. The Galaxy games have a lesser control scheme, so they can structure the game better. Galaxy has better music I think both have equal levels of creativity
Yes it is, without a doubt!! Even the launch party at the Nintendo NY store was one of the best launches for any game. I got to meet Reggie and the director of the game!
The launch party was phenomenal and it was great to see you got featured briefly in the video Nintendo put out of the event. Keep up the great work you’re doing bringing the joy of Nintendo to your students.
Jo No need to shove opinions. I myself think Galaxy is the best, and have a hard time believing that Odyssey will top it, but even if it doesn't, there's no need for it to be world-wide thought as the best. It's surprising Odyssey even got the nostalgia fans to agree it's good.
Odyssey has the best ending by far though... That song! Playing as Bowser! Peach thrown on your shoulders! THAT SONG! I personally think Odyssey is just meh until the ending/aftergame. But i can give it one thing! It proves we need more Mario Vocal Songs! They are so good! Keep the singer too!
I 100% both 64 and Odyssey. I like 64 better for the only reason of it being more difficult. If you return to Odyssey after playing it to completion, you have to make up your own challenges to continue enjoying the game. Such as completing a Koopa race without jumping. But with 64, you can still do anything the game initially offers and have a difficult time doing it. Odyssey has a lot of quantity content, not quality. Each star in 64 is memorable. I'd rather have a smaller amount of difficult objectives than a large amount of easy objectives.
Super Mario 64 is really fun to play still, but it's aged extremely poorly. the first half of the game is a blast, but as soon as you get in to the later worlds, the awful camera and physics completely collapse and the controls become a nightmare. The only reason Mario 64 is difficult near the end is because you're literally battling the controls and it's often very difficult to make Mario do what you want him to. The reason stars are much more difficult and less numerous than Moons is because Mario 64 was originally supposed to have a lot more levels, Miyamato wanted at least double. They were cut because of time constraints though, so what you end up with is a lot of stars designed to make you play the entire levels over and over to extend the game length. While it works much better for Mario 64 than a lot of games, it can get tedious to me at times. I've beat Mario 64 dozens of times, but my last playthrough was the time I finally felt like I just got tired of dealing with the games issues. Compare it to something like Ocarina of Time, which has aged much better because it used the exact opposite design of 64 (with the same engine). For a 3d game, your paths and movement are actually extremely limited. You can't even jump unless it's in a designated spot. This completely avoids the problems that Mario 64 had with Cameras / movement / unpredictable bugs and glitches.
I personally prefer 3d World / Land to any other 3d Mario game, but they're really a 2d Mario game in 3d. I disagree that it's the least Mario like Mario game though and would actually say the opposite. It's an action platformer, like the 2d Mario games and it's the type of 3d Mario game I always wanted Nintendo to make.
64DS does help a lot, I didn't even notice until I compared the 2 and realized I couldn't control the original very well. However I feel like OoT aged worse, but maybe thats because Hyrule field's oversized emptiness really soured me on an otherwise pretty good game. (even TP's Hyrule Field or WW's ocean didn't bother me that much comparatively) 3D World is just an improved Galaxy game, so it totally counts, and is great and underappreciated. Honestly the only game in the series I can't get into anymore (as long as we are using the DS version of 64) is the galaxy games, you just don't have a lot of movement options and Mario is slow anyways, and the level design is linear, but tries to hide it instead of embracing it like 3D world did, so I can't imagine why it's still popular when every other game is better, even the ones that came before like sunshine.
Rodrigo SM Nintendo has already given me enough reasons to be optimistic about anything new they are planning to release. I understand the need of some people to play the old-school hardcore fan role though. ;)
The thing that makes Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2 the best Mario Games for me imo, is that they had SO MANY WORLDS and amazing level design and mechanics. That is something that super Mario odyssey lacks. It forces you to stay in the same world for 10 hours searching relentlessly for moons in order to 100% it, while on the other hand, Super Mario Galaxy takes you through a vey fun and challenging grand adventure across DOZENS of different galaxies, only making you stay there for 30 mins at least for each galaxy. And then I also liked the dardevil, fastfoe, cosmic clone, and speedy comets. They added several extra difficult challenges in the game, and It added more variety to the game.
In your opinion. I cannot stand Super Mario Galaxy 2 as its own game. If there was just one Mario Galaxy with Mario Galaxy 2's content added to it later on, then maybe lol
Well obviously it's my opinion lol if you thought Hotel Mario is your favorite then that would be your opinion too. It's all subjective, everyone has their reasons why they think something is their favorite.
I freakin' loved Odyssey, but for me, the experience that I got from Galaxy was incomparable. There wasn't anything like it at the time. On top of that, I found it much more challenging, and the amount of content was astronomical compared to Odyssey. I would get a Galaxy port on my Switch in a heartbeat.
But all of you odyssey haters, most of you don't like it because of one thing; it's too easy. I personally don't agree with this statement, but I have a way of getting around it none the less; try doing the major runs of the game, such as no jumping, no damage, minimal captures, no coins, combinations of those runs, or a separate run that interests you. These runs make odyssey so much more difficult, and if you think it is easy, try one out.
I'm glad people are enjoying Odyssey but I sometimes get bored with it and will take breaks playing it in favor of Zelda, Doom, and indie games. Because Odyssey is a collect-athon and not as platforming focus. I don't have to platform to stomp a moon in the ground. That's disappointing because Odyssey has the best handling gameplay. I in some ways prefer Mario 3D World because it's platforming. I prefer a bunch of short variety of levels versus moons. And I'd rather finish crown world with all 5 characters than collect all the moons. You should of named this favorite 3D Mario. I think Mario World and Mario 3 would crush the 3D list, that's why they were left out. 😉 Odyssey still great though.
I think Mario world is the best 2d Mario. But i don't think it holds a candle to Galaxy (2) or odyssey. They were left out because the 2d games are very different.
You're trying very hard not to let Galaxy beat Odyssey and it's showing. Remember, this is objective, and you cannot objectively say that exploration is better than linear. I think that there are too many moons in Odyssey that don't add anything to the game, they're just there. Busy work. Galaxy had more unique experiences for each level, and more levels. None of them were just there because the developers found it easy to put a star somewhere. Even when they simply hid a star like Odyssey, it was a)hidden, and b)took effort to make.
(Sorry for bad english btw) There are two things that players need to do. Rate a game by Nostalgia and Rate a game by Critcs. For exemple: For Nostalgia, my favorite game is mario 64, beacuse i loved when i was a kid. For critics i see Odyssey as the best, beacuse pick everything up and makes it better. The idea of planets on Mario Galaxy, now of Kingdoms on mario odyssey. The Freedom from Mario 64, the little bud from mario sunshine, but now with cappy. Everything connects.
Odyssey is definitely my favorite Mario game by far. I even enjoyed it more than Galaxy (and I LOVED Galaxy growing up). Also, in response to 2:31, I literally celebrate every time I collect a moon and dance to the little song.
I think there's no point in comparing the collectathon games (64, Sunshine, Odyssey) to the pure platformers (the rest of the 3d Mario games). These are completely different genres. I for example thought Odyssey will have more platforming and it ended up being 10% platforming and 90% casual collecting and unrelated minigames. So it was a huge disappointment for me.
Odyssey is an amazingly crafted game, and I loved it so so so much, but still. It doesn’t beat Super Mario Galaxy, I still think Galaxy is better than Odyssey, simply because their just different games but I grew up with Galaxy, Galaxy 1, to be exact, and man. What a game. Overall, I love Super Mario Odyssey, it’s truly a fantastic game, but. I still love Super Mario Galaxy much more, it was my first “big” game,
I'd probably prefer Galaxy. Linear games are better than open ended games. That's just a fact. I have a life, I don't need a ton of freedom AKA busy work and time wasting to do what I want in a game. I play games to have a great experience. Linear games have better experiences because they're more focused on delivering one rather than expecting the player to make their own. Plain and simple. 95 times out of 100 I'd rather have a linear game. I like to space out my super open mega world games because otherwise they'd get boring so quickly and they take too long to play anyways. I still haven't finished Fallout 4. Not because I don't love the game, I really do actually. It's because a million different games have come out since Fallout came out, many of which I had to play. I'm not going to let that happen with Zelda BoTW though and I won't have to since it's portable which makes it much easier to keep up with.
Going off of the Mario 64 argument in that it's not the best Mario game in 2018, could we also argue that Ocarina of Time isn't the best Zelda in 2018? Because it isn't.
No. Odyssey is great but it's unbelievably short and packed with tons of filler. Hell 90% of the moons are given out for buying them, talking to people, ground pounding something shiny, a bunch of monotonous, boring, worthless moons basically just to get to 999. The purple coins are just kind of out there in the open or over a cliff, etc. The bosses are also forgettable. Compared to Galaxy 1/2 it's just ok. It has superior mechanics but everything else is lacking. It is a very basic collect-a-thon. Even when compared to N64 games, which is saying a lot.
I had more fun cleaning the goop in Sunshine than actually playing the game...until I got bored with that eventually. I do like Odyssey the best of all the 3D Mario games. I’m not a huge Mario fan, in fact I am more of a Zelda fan, but I like Odyssey more than BotW, it sadly has more of a story than BotW and it hasn’t bored me. Don’t get me wrong, BotW is a good game, but the lack of much of a story has turned me off.
For me, I think the list goes as following and don't take it as me hating any of them, I actually like them all in their own unique way. SM64 > Super Mario Odyssey > Super Mario Galaxy (I didn't like the direct unnecessary sequel) > Super Mario Sunshine
And yes hell yes hell fucking yes I think Odyssey is better than Mario 64. And I'm not knocking on Mario 64 in anyway. After all Mario 64 is one of the best video games I've ever played but come on now. Taking off the Retro goggles and looking at the game for what it really is wall taking into effect how platformers of changed over the years. Because just because its a classic, it doesn't make Mario 64 any less immune to flaws. Of course one of the biggest flaws I can think of of Mario 64 is the goddamn camera. That camera is so freaking annoying. Then there's also the fact that the levels are pretty damn short. Mario has a limited moveset that while revolutionary in 1996, feels way more constricted when compared to something like Odyssey. And let's talk about boss battles, ridiculously simple and easy and of course there's the linear nature of the game. But then again, even years ago I thought Mario Sunshine was better than Mario 64 in Odyssey I feel like is better than Mario Sunshine. Or at least it's a tie.
Justin Drysdale even this game has flaws just like the others have. It does *not* recapture the Magic of 64 and Sunshine at all. It rather copied the games flaws (too many Rehashed missions and moons overall = 64 and unnecessary collectibles= Sunshine) and ignores them as if they wouldnt even exist.
I'd say Super Mario 64 is considerably more mind blowing for it's time then Odyssey. Odyssey takes a lot of functionality from Galaxy (spinning the controller to use Cappy), and doesnt cross the same gap that 64 does when you consider it is the sequel to Super Mario World. Odyssey is a fantastic game and I have not been able to put it down, but I don't want to discredit 64 as it started a lot of the mechanics used in modern 3D Mario games. I feel like Galaxy is very discredited in this video, the platforming is very revolutionary and I think that trumps the non-sandbox gameplay. It is a very simple game as far as difficulty, but I totally agree that the linear gameplay has it's fair share of pro's and con's. For young players, it's definitely a great game that shows the player how to explore, and isn't as broad and complex as Odyssey.
Mario Galaxy and Mario Galaxy 2 are my favorite Mario games of all time. Odyssey just didn't feel the same and some worlds just felt really rushed. I haven't played any of the Mario Galaxy games in years but this felt much shorter and everything just felt so random.
Although odyssey is still my personal favorite game of all time, I still definetly agree with you here. I personally found the snow kingdom and the lake kingdom to be pretty disappointing. Also, the ruined kingdom would have made the perfect ghost level IMO.
RyunaAustuna I felt that way for a lot of kingdoms, I just wanted to get out of them because they aren't interesting. I felt this way in the Snow Kingdom, Luncheon Kingdom, Moon Kingdom, Lost Kingdom and Bowser's Kingdom. I just tried to rush through them all and the game felt short. After completing the game you do get more stuff to do but what's the point after completing the story, there isn't much driving you to finish collecting all of the moons.
Guys! My 3D Mario game collection! (What's yours?) :) Super Mario 64 DS Super Mario Sunshine Super Mario Galaxy 2 Super Mario 3D Land Super Mario 3D World And very recently, Super Mario Odyssey!
what's so great about Galaxy outside atmosphere and music? It is the worst 3D Mario to me, its too sluggish and has bland level design most of the time with lots of padding personally. It does have a lot of gimmicks, but those are meant to distract you from the bad platforming, unlike the other games whose gimmicks add to the platforming and controls. I just don't get the love for it when 3D World did the exact same thing but better in every way.
GBDupree 3D World was a multiplayer 3Dish Mario game that felt more like a 2D or 2.5D platformer rather than 3D, while yes Galaxy is linear, its gameplay and Level Design at least *adapted to what it was*, which Odyssey didnt at all (to me anyways).
3D world was just as much 3d as Galaxy, it just didn't try to hide the fact it was linear and instead embraced it allowing for more involved platforming challenges (also helped by having more moves like 64/sunshine did that galaxy took away). And it still did have more open areas too. I'm not quite sure what you mean by "adapted to what it was" though.
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GBDupree Nothing, that's just it: the music and atmosphere. Also the level design.
To be honest I prefer the length of galaxy 1 and 2, but the freedom and gameplay does keep it at a close tie for me between odyssey and galaxy (odyssey having the better gameplay and freedom)
I prefer the linearity in Galaxy 2 and the platforming overall. Odyssey has the same issue as some open world games, I just get bored after spending some time in a map looking for 50 moons.
Okay I’m going say this. I love Mario Odyssey it’s like a great game like 10/11 let me go over the pros and the con. Pros -Metro Kingdom is just an accurate take on NYC good job Nintendo :) -For the people who find the game not challenging there’s a level called “Darker Side”, this level was very difficult, I would recommend it to people who want a challenge or galaxy fans anyways -Visuals, just look at this game it’s looks like galaxy but boost up the budget by 9000 $. I really love it -You can do cool challenges, (this is for people who like the game) if you played odyssey a million times there’s challenges you can do, right now I’m attempting if you can beat the get without touching a coin, or you can do no jumping? -Soundtrack. This soundtrack is just my favourite. For example the metro kingdom music is just so amazing, you know that the creators are putting lots of effort into this game if you just hear this soundtrack. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Con - The dang kingdoms, the following kingdoms are the ones that I don’t dislike but just not interested in, Snow kingdom, Snow kingdom, lost kingdom (well what do you expect it only has 3 moons) , food kingdom.( I loved food but the world played out disappointing). And that’s it this is my opinion if someone comments “Oh odyssey sucks and galaxy is better” I’m going flip. I don’t think anyone will see this but I’m putting my feelings about the game.
It's missing one thing. Difficulty. There are small spurts of difficulty, but not enough to save it. Its an incredible game, but Galaxy 2 is the best for me.
Uh... No. I'm a veteran at mario. Ive been playing platformers for over a decade. So no, I'm not bad. What gives you the right to insult somebody who found a game more difficult than you did?
No. The game is massively overrated in my opinion. Not challenging and sure people will say getting all the moons is hard which I agree but story wise this doesn’t stack up to previous Mario titles. Bring on Mario sunshine Hd with a better camera I say
There's some pretty tough levels in the game, not sure you've done them yet. I'd say it had harder things in it than anything in Mario 64 unless you count bad camera angles as "challenge." It had harder stuff than Galaxy or Galaxy 2, though their "hardest" levels were harder than this one. I'd say the only harder 3D Mario is Sunshine and that's only counting some of the non-water pack levels, pachinko, lava boat, and poison river leaf level. *shudder*
Sunshine IMO was the easiest. The leaf level is overrated, why? Because you can walk on the rails and use the hiver nozzel and completely cheese the Shine. Most of the levels arent that challenging outside of 1 or 2 secret stages. IMO, Super Mario 3D Woeld is the hardest.
I thought Odyssey was an extremely overrated game. Playing it I had fun and thought it was pretty well made but the moons are so forgettable. They keep using the same ideas throughout the WHOLE game and the difficulty never highs up. The possessions are in their majority, previous Mario power ups but with limited mobility. And others are just not well used. Wow you can be a T-Rex and... Destroy some stone blocks?
Pretty much how i felt about the game before i reached the 'endgame'. Im having more fun with it now I have access to every Moon in every world and can get them whenever i want, in what order i want.
agree. It's slowly become more acceptable to call Odyssey overrated. Post this around the time it got released you'd get slaughtered. I had my fun with it, but I've not gone back since I beaten it and did 2-3 hours or post game. I just didn't find the challenges fun, and didn't really care to explore these kingdoms. 999 moons is just excessive.
I haven't played Odyssey (or Galaxy) yet, but Sunshine really was such a fun and charming game that I keep coming back to it, the same way I do with SMW, Mega Man 2 and CV:SOTN. That's gotta count for something.
Nick Wallette same! I think odyssey is the better game but I cannot deny the fun factor that sunshine has this video doesn’t do it justice if sunshine was remade in odyssey graphics with odyssey controls it would be perfect
The Sunshine hate…triggers me every time. lol smh I LOVED FLUDD. Went back and played the game a year ago…STILL LOVE FLUDD. It was the first time we got a companion who advanced the platforming and redefined the parameters of Mario’s jumping ability (Not a loose comparison at all…it’s exactly the same lol ). It even gains new abilities (albeit far LESS) throughout the gameplay which allow you to complete different missions and even discover secrets in the game…just like Cappy. It was the early version of this which was continued throughout the Galaxy games. On top of this, the feeling of moving around by diving, sliding, then fludding over enemies or even using the different FLUDD abilities felt GREAT to me. It also added a shooting element into the platforming (which is not going to be everyone’s thing…but I personally liked it and feel that it isn’t OBJECTIVELY bad). This whole “These childhood games aren’t as good as you think they were” argument to make Odyssey into the end all be all is getting very annoying lol I LOVE Odyssey, I personally feel that it is the better overall game…right now. lol The dust has barely settled, and we haven’t gotten to see how it will age AT ALL. Most of the issues with it are that it’s too much of a collectathon for very little reward, and that will definitely come more into play as time takes its toll on the game. In the meantime…let’s not take others power ups, so that our game stands taller. lol
Last thing…Galaxy is not REALLY an open world game. It’s a Sandbox game…with REALLY BIG Sandboxes lol Don’t get me wrong, it’s DOPE! Again, probably the best 3D game imo at the time, but it’s not open world. You can exhaust the actual space quite easily. The fun comes from exploration within the fairly frequent walls, and entering into sub-sandboxes within those walls as well. It’s a Sandbox adventure with the aesthetic of an open world game. One COULD argue that the Mario 64 castle felt more open world (although it was clearly a hub) than Galaxy. In said hub, you actually find tons of secrets (including other worlds and sandboxes). Things happen there. What do you do on the ship?…Fly to other Sandboxes lol It’s just stage selection. I don’t understand how THAT is open world, while Galaxy (though not quite as expansive as 64 in the ways I’ve mentioned) is not.
The best Mario games off all time are •super Mario Bros 3 •super Mario world •Mario galaxy series •new super Mario Bros •Mario odyssey •Mario maker •Mario Kart double dash •Mario 64 Not in that order tho.
I don't know man, I love Odyssey and all... But I just can't put it above the classic "Mario is missing." Now if you're looking for a masterpiece that is both linear, and open world, that's the best one of them all.
I don't know man, Mario Teaches Typing and Hotel Mario might be above that classic.
Lmao I literally just mention Mario is Missing in a reply. Best bland as hell 2D trivia game ever!
I know this is a joke but Mario Odyssey is not open world
Nostalgia alert.
Of course oddesey isn't the best glaxy is way better
Movement:
1.Odyssey
2. 64
Story:
1. Sunshine
2. Galaxy
Camera:
1. Odyssey
2. Sunshine
Gimmicks/ New mechanics
1. Odyssey
2. Galaxy
Soundtrack:
1.Galaxy
2. 3D World
Bosses:
1. Odyssey
2. Galaxy
Platforming:
1. Galaxy
2. Sunshine
Exploration:
1. Odyssey
2. 64
Worlds / Levels:
1. Odyssey
2. Sunshine (Galaxy a very close 3rd but i feel like sunshine’s are so memorable)
Stars/Moons/Shines/Objectives:
1. Galaxy
2. Odyssey
Overall IMO:
1. Odyssey
2. Galaxy / galaxy 2
3. Sunshine
4. 64
5. 3D world
I SOOO argee with you. The soundtrack was disapionting.(To me)
Harry Beaven 64 having better movement than Sunshine?
64 controls like ass compared to Sunshine.
Were we playing the same game? lol
CasualGamePlayz Yeah that was one I wasn’t sure about. I gave the edge to 64 just because I remembered feeling so much more comfortable with the controls in 64 than I did in Sunshine. Maybe the fact that I used an emulator for 64 and a GameCube for sunshine might have influenced me. I can see how Sunshine is probably better though.
Harry Beaven Yeah, i can see why you would think that if you used an emulator. The N64 control stick was ass XD
Didnt help the DS remake went a step further and lacked a control stick!
Harry Beaven I agree and I also want to bring up how weak Odyssey’s soundtrack is.
I’d love to see a Galaxy port to Switch oh my word...
Mason M.
They should just crossover Odyssey and Galaxy. That way Odyssey 2 and Galaxy 3 could be one game.
Space Walker Someone give you a promotion!
Space Walker Super Mario Odexxey
@Space Walker I'd call it...Super Mario Space Odyssey.
TheAbsol that's a great name
If you ask me, the galaxy games were the middle ground in between the sandbox and simple linear Mario games.
yeah I could see that, on one end you have the great sandbox titles like Odyssey and Sunshine, and the other end you have great linear games like 3, world, and even 3D World (which is just a better Galaxy game personally). And Galaxy is stuck in between not really as either one.
Galaxies are the best 3D Mario games, period. 64 is great, Sunshine is flawed, Odyssey is too easy and bloated making moon collections feel trivial. They are all good with sunshine at the bottom. Mgalaxies are the peak of the franchise in 3D.
im going to give my honest opinion
I cannot like mario galaxy because of the controls
mario doesnt feel like he's supposed to be running on the space he is
I just cant get passed it
I always switch gravity and its very disorienting
"oh it turned upside down, do I go the same direction or do I go the opposite way, ill try going the opposite way. OOPS I got hit shoulda known I would've moved there"
@@jden_224 yeah it is but 3d world was still fun
The mechanics in Odyssey are going to stand the test of time. Unbelievably fluid, I can't wait to see if Nintendo can top his moveset, it seems like they could refine it in many ways but it's so good right now. Before Odyssey came out, I thought that Galaxy controlled like a dream so you never know!
Sackboy couldn't agree more
SBM Lol have you even played sunshine?
Unfriendly Dude Yes, It controls better than galaxy actually, you're right. I know that 64/Sunshine/Odyssey are more sandbox type games with different movesets compared to the other 3d games but I didn't really like Sunshine so I guess I just forgot about it :p
Galaxy controls alright, but Mario feels so sluggish and slow in that game then any other, I always prefer the other games (especially Sunshine) for better movement.
Though the reason Sunshine is so hit-or-miss is that while having some of the best controls and movement options for many players (one of the reasons its one of the top most speedrun games ever), it sadly falls victim to its rushed development (it and Wind waker had notorious development issues) making its level design not always consistent or good.
So its level design, though not all bad, makes it hard for those who focus more on level/world design than character control, which is why those who disliked Sunshine love Galaxy, because it has the opposite problem.
Galaxy has structured levels, and quite a lot of them, but its gameplay is slow and pretty bland, but it constantly gives you other gameplay gimmicks so you don't get too tired of the normal controls.
However I would say that 3D World improves the Galaxy style level design much more, allowing for more secrets and paths so the levels have more depth than just looking pretty, while bringing a more diverse faster moveset akin to 64/sunshine so it never gets too samey/tiring. Though then its a matter of whether you like the open world style or obstacle course style more.
I think I'll like Galaxy's controls more because the long jump and wall jump in Odyssey look kind of lame. ...Same with the dive but that's a little more understandable, because it has to work with Cappy.
Alex, you can't put a spoiler warning about Rosalina after you've showed gameplay with Rosalina in it. That's just not how time works.
Aaron White u fucking right
Aaron White How does time work?
People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly... timey-wimey... stuff.
Can’t wait for a 3D super Mario timelines , where Mario goes back to kill bowser asan infant like they did in Mario in Mario and Luigi partner in time
yeah he’s an idiot that’s why
most of these youtubers spoil a game and then right after they do they give you the spoilers warning fucking morons
odyssey as just a treat in general, its one the most in-depth and meticulously designed games i have played in recent memory. Yes, some moons are easy to get and really straight forward, but it never feels like too much for me. Finding moons so frequently keeps a certain momentum going, and it makes every little part of the levels that they have designed have purpose. It's a very fulfilling experience
Mario Odyssey is a great game, but it just feels very bare and barren to me. The kingdoms just don't give me the same feel as levels in other Mario games. My experience with Mario Odyssey is that when you're done, you're done. You can't replay bosses or the required moons like you can replay levels in Mario Galaxy or 3D Land/World. Maybe I've just got a linear mind: I do tend to prefer 2d games anyway.
Well, you can actually replay bosses in the Mushroom Kingdom en replay the Broodals in the Dark Side.
You can replay all of the bosses.
Nahom Yes I know, but they're more like recreating them than replaying them.
Still, they're their. If anything it gives Mario Odyssey more replay valie becaise of how open it is, so you can deside to go a completely different path every time you replay the game.
Gamesforus That's my problem: you have to replay the game to replay the 'levels'.
Since there's hundreds of subpar moons in Odyssey, I can't help but feel Galaxy is a better game. Every star in Galaxy means something, and there's so many interesting ideas done first in Galaxy that maybe haven't even been in the Mario games since. Odyssey is still a dang good game though, don't get me wrong.
I wouldn't say hundreds. There are simple.moons, but most of them require a real task. One third is easy. One third is normal. One third is hard.
+Ludenberger Supreme I can definitely see what you mean but honestly, the unsatisfactory moons didn’t really hinder my experience significantly.
But what about the hundreds of OTHER satisfactory moons? And the ideas in Odyssey beat Galaxy IMO. Galaxy had pretty standard mechanics.
Gamesforus I agree on that end - Cappy is so much better than the spin jump. But things were more imaginative on the side of galaxies and even level design in some cases
OMG AN OPINION NOW I MUST DESTROY YOU
For you guys saying there’s no platforming in Odyssey have you tried:
Sand Kingdom
Metro Kingdom
Wooded Kingdom
Cascade Kingdom.....
Wait let me ask you something else
Have you played the game?
All of the mario games are incredible, but they’re so stupid and terrible
Compared to the mario tv show
Vsauce Puppet you are completely right but Zelda CGI or whatever it is called is better
C’mon the Mario tv show was awesome
For me Galaxy 1 is the best. Odyssey is good, but I never got that same magic that I got playing Galaxy.
True
Olimar103 I enjoyed galaxy 2 more than the original galaxy.
well as you get older you are less able to generate nostalgia with new experiences, even if Odyssey was better objectively you wouldn't know because you didn't grow up with it. This is why so many dislike 3D World, despite it being superior to the Galaxy games in almost every way, but gets forgotten so much because everyone was already too old to enjoy it like they could Galaxy.
The best thing to do is figure out why you like the game beyond nostalgia, and start to understand its shortcomings so you can enjoy other games later on. So for me I love Sunshine, but I know, outside of the nostalgia of its atmosphere and music, that its because of its great gameplay, the controls are great and its moveset varied with a lot of ways go places. But its shortcomings are in its level design, where the main areas are all good, each level or objective within aren't as consistently good.
Gbd, that's your opinion. I think 3D world was pretty meh compared to Galaxy.
Callinater
Probably because you were sick of the Galaxy style gameplay by then but still enjoyed the Galaxy games because you liked them before, or you were never interested in the gameplay but more the story and atmosphere and 3d World's eviroments didn't appeal to you the way outer space did in Galaxy. 'Cause otherwise I can't see how galaxy was better than 3d World outside of personal preference to the atmosphere.
(maybe spoilers) it was honestly going to be my favorite Mario game ever, until i found out that after collecting so many moons for the next ‘secret worlds’, they just turned out to be different sides of the moon.. was SO disappointed.. was imagining some amazing Star Worlds that Mario games usually have.. but the moon areas were just so lifeless and dull (in my opinion)
if it wasn’t for that, I would’ve called it better than Super Mario World on the SNES
anyway, can’t wait to see what they do with Mario next :)
three bedrooms I loved the dark and darker side some of the best kingdoms.
PokeJake 28 fair enough, mate. i just distinctly remember being presented with those areas after collecting hundreds of moons, and thinking ‘is that it?’
Star Worlds are usually a compilation of levels we've seen before, but harder... which is exacly what dark and darker side was.
Dark Side was annoying to me because of the Broodals/low-gravity thing, but it made up for it (slightly) by putting a bunch of hint art afterwards. I'm a brainteaser nerd, so that was a blast. Darker Side was a nice challenge, for sure. I still have Super Mario Galaxy 2 as my favorite game of all time, but SMO nudged its way into my top 5 (I'm not sure where, though).
missing chromosomes YES! I was so excited for the Ruined Kingdom because castles and stuff like that is fascinating in video games, but they, ironically, ruined it! There were like 12 moons there total. The pamphlet had a bunch of interesting lore that they didn't build upon. Super disappointing. Same goes for the Cloud Kingdom.
Mario Galaxy 1 is the best. It had compelling characters as far as mario games go and the hub world was at times annoying but still gave a nice/ fitting ambiance. Also levels in galaxy had a nice challenge and sense of development. My first playthrough of odyssey I was genuinely disappointed but went back to try enjoying it more. The problem with odyssey is you have to go out of your way to be challenged. Basically it's main gameplay really only is a series of mini games which don't create much challenge or sense of progression. So objectively I can't say odyssey is a better game, but it's open world and challenges do work to its favor (but again the main game play is lackluster). I will admit that odyssey has a much better replay value than galaxy based off the easy nature of odyssey as a game.
Helo exactly the post game has much content with challenge
What's with this stupid idea that linear = bad? The original games were linear also. So acting like 3D World was so different and unlike Mario is just plain stupid when it's so much more like Mario than Mario 64.
Remember kids: adults will always say your game sucks because it’s now what they played first
I know..........
I question life
It's hard for me to say if it's the best Mario game imo. I mean it's definitely my favorite of the 3D Mario games, hands down, since it fixes & improves nearly all the issues I had with previous 3D Mario games, but in terms of being my favorite Mario game of all time, I don't know I need to spend a little more time with the game & see if it really tops Super Mario World as my favorite Mario game.
It is NOT the best 3D Mario game _ever_. It will be crushed in 4 years by Mario Odyssey: Nintendoverse, where you travel Kirby Kingdom (Dreamland), Zelda Kingdom (Hyrule), Lylat Kingdom etc etc
I think Hyrule Kingdom sounds better
yeah nintendo will pull something along those lines, as they all live in the same universe, and in an episode of send your letters to mario, mario's inbox has mail from kirby. so you never know
I would love that.
That would be the best Mario game ever.
KanalDerGutenSache Nice
The problem with Super Mario Odyssey is the nonlinear stuff didn't seem important enough so it felt really short. I think BOTW did a better job making the nonlinear stuff important.
If you’re comparing sm64 now to smo now, then yeah smo is clearly better. But it’s an unfair comparison, smo is what it is partly because of its history. It’s had all that time to improve on the previous. A fairer way to compare is to look at smo now and compare that to sm64 then. And I think most would agree that sm64 had a much bigger impact on gameplay on release than smo did on its release.
... From a not nostalgia blind person that played SM64 for the first time not long ago, it holds up in the modern era.
Still Mario 64 for me. But Odyssey is a close second
Yo forgot one other mario game
Mario Hotel
IamTabu - Nintendo Commentary It’s Hotel Mario
“I will not be talking about anything of the 2D games
But it’s so good it deserves on this list 😂
Motel Hario
It’s “Hotel Mario,” you silly goose.
I actually think 3D world is the best Mario game. I just had the most fun with it and I liked the character selection. I loved playing as Rosalina.
As a non Mario fan that’s not nostalgic towards any of them (except sunshine) YES
And as someone who IS nostalgic to most of them....
STILL YES OHMAGEERD
Why are you not a Mario fan?
I've played through and completed Odyssey. I originally didn't enjoy it as Galaxy 1. I barely like 64 more and I haven't played Sunshine.
Its my favorite game of all time. Just barely surpassing Skyrim, breath of the wild, and the galaxy titles.
Is it still your favorite game?
Still a candidate, yes.
I actually disagree on odyssey's structure. Until post game it felt really linear, at least to me, as by the time you did the main story in the world (which was basically just a galaxy level) you had enough moons to progress and I hated how until you beat the game the worlds didn't have all the content. Why couldn't you just be let loose to free roam from the start with all the content at your disposal?
Joe Cromarty Most of the game is post game though. It's linear to get you through a coherent (though obviously super simple story), then open for the last 80%.
FredWallace18 I don't like that though I'd rather the story was the bulk of the content.
Short Answer: *YESSSSS!!!* I have 130 hours on it that shows how much I enjoyed it :D
i think that Mario Odyssey was more of a experiment rather than a fully game. See, it combines many things from many past games that can offer a fantastic experience.
This is like to demonstrate how a game can combine many aspects of a franchise, give more possibilities, and show how amazing the Mario's universe really is and how cool can get in the future. It some kind of Mario Mania.
Maybe they'll make a sequel to odyssey to build upon what WORKED.
It's an amazing game but I'll allways love mario 64
sunsbookishgamesx Same
I grew up on Mario Galaxy 1 so that will probably always be my favorite.
can you please take off your nostalgia glasses off
Odyssey has the best parts of mario 64 and so much more! I almost wish this was the last mario game because nothing that follows will compare. Love the channel by the way
cal 6ixGod -unless they make a game that plays like Oddysey, allows you to switch between Cappy, and flood, and tons of other assistants. Where the story is much more intense and serious, but still Mario like. Is completely open world, and has the best music in a Mario game ever!
That could out do Oddysey.
Yes, it is the best Mario Game ever. :) Lots of fun and lots of polish. I am having a great time playing it with my daughter. We switch off who controls Mario and who controls Cappy. We have had tons of fun!
I guess for me, I feel like Odyssey has everything I loved about Mario 64, but with more, it looks better, they added a mini multiplayer, it feels great etc. Do you know what about Mario 64 makes that more special in your opinion?
Sounds rad. I LOVED Mario 64 on DS. That was really fun to see that game run on a DS as well. I loved being the different characters as well. The original Mario 64 didn't have that. Fun game :)
Mario Odyssey is rlly good for being non-linear. It has the best controls and you can make your own challenge in stuff like koopa freerunning.
The Galaxy games have a lesser control scheme, so they can structure the game better. Galaxy has better music
I think both have equal levels of creativity
Yes it is, without a doubt!! Even the launch party at the Nintendo NY store was one of the best launches for any game. I got to meet Reggie and the director of the game!
The launch party was phenomenal and it was great to see you got featured briefly in the video Nintendo put out of the event. Keep up the great work you’re doing bringing the joy of Nintendo to your students.
Thank you so much Ryan! You totally just made my night!
Mr. Vacca no problem :).
Jo No need to shove opinions. I myself think Galaxy is the best, and have a hard time believing that Odyssey will top it, but even if it doesn't, there's no need for it to be world-wide thought as the best. It's surprising Odyssey even got the nostalgia fans to agree it's good.
You DARE ignore the god that is Super Mario 3D Land!!!
I can't tell wether your being sarcastic or not... I loved 3D land!
Mild sarcasm. Still wish he would have talked about it. Glad someone agrees!
But the best Mario game ever is Super Mario Maker.
Dat Hooman That game was kind of mediocre.
I loved 3d land. Just not as much as the other 3d titles is all.
Odyssey has the best ending by far though... That song! Playing as Bowser! Peach thrown on your shoulders! THAT SONG!
I personally think Odyssey is just meh until the ending/aftergame.
But i can give it one thing! It proves we need more Mario Vocal Songs! They are so good! Keep the singer too!
Wind waker is still my favorite ending.
Exactly with the music part. Do a Persona type thing and hire the same singer and composer for the Odyssey series should it get any sequels.
I 100% both 64 and Odyssey. I like 64 better for the only reason of it being more difficult. If you return to Odyssey after playing it to completion, you have to make up your own challenges to continue enjoying the game. Such as completing a Koopa race without jumping. But with 64, you can still do anything the game initially offers and have a difficult time doing it. Odyssey has a lot of quantity content, not quality. Each star in 64 is memorable. I'd rather have a smaller amount of difficult objectives than a large amount of easy objectives.
Super Mario 64 is really fun to play still, but it's aged extremely poorly. the first half of the game is a blast, but as soon as you get in to the later worlds, the awful camera and physics completely collapse and the controls become a nightmare. The only reason Mario 64 is difficult near the end is because you're literally battling the controls and it's often very difficult to make Mario do what you want him to. The reason stars are much more difficult and less numerous than Moons is because Mario 64 was originally supposed to have a lot more levels, Miyamato wanted at least double. They were cut because of time constraints though, so what you end up with is a lot of stars designed to make you play the entire levels over and over to extend the game length. While it works much better for Mario 64 than a lot of games, it can get tedious to me at times. I've beat Mario 64 dozens of times, but my last playthrough was the time I finally felt like I just got tired of dealing with the games issues. Compare it to something like Ocarina of Time, which has aged much better because it used the exact opposite design of 64 (with the same engine). For a 3d game, your paths and movement are actually extremely limited. You can't even jump unless it's in a designated spot. This completely avoids the problems that Mario 64 had with Cameras / movement / unpredictable bugs and glitches.
Brian Bond I agree but I LOVE Galaxy way MORE than odyssey
I personally prefer 3d World / Land to any other 3d Mario game, but they're really a 2d Mario game in 3d. I disagree that it's the least Mario like Mario game though and would actually say the opposite. It's an action platformer, like the 2d Mario games and it's the type of 3d Mario game I always wanted Nintendo to make.
64DS does help a lot, I didn't even notice until I compared the 2 and realized I couldn't control the original very well.
However I feel like OoT aged worse, but maybe thats because Hyrule field's oversized emptiness really soured me on an otherwise pretty good game. (even TP's Hyrule Field or WW's ocean didn't bother me that much comparatively)
3D World is just an improved Galaxy game, so it totally counts, and is great and underappreciated. Honestly the only game in the series I can't get into anymore (as long as we are using the DS version of 64) is the galaxy games, you just don't have a lot of movement options and Mario is slow anyways, and the level design is linear, but tries to hide it instead of embracing it like 3D world did, so I can't imagine why it's still popular when every other game is better, even the ones that came before like sunshine.
Yes it is. End of story.
Botw is also the best Zelda game ever.
And the best Metroid game ever is on the way.
No.
Ruric I like you're optimistic with Metroid prime 4
Rodrigo SM Nintendo has already given me enough reasons to be optimistic about anything new they are planning to release. I understand the need of some people to play the old-school hardcore fan role though. ;)
Yes
Ruric I think the subjective. I mean of course it is
The thing that makes Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2 the best Mario Games for me imo, is that they had SO MANY WORLDS and amazing level design and mechanics. That is something that super Mario odyssey lacks. It forces you to stay in the same world for 10 hours searching relentlessly for moons in order to 100% it, while on the other hand, Super Mario Galaxy takes you through a vey fun and challenging grand adventure across DOZENS of different galaxies, only making you stay there for 30 mins at least for each galaxy. And then I also liked the dardevil, fastfoe, cosmic clone, and speedy comets. They added several extra difficult challenges in the game, and It added more variety to the game.
Galaxy 1 & 2 are better.
In your opinion. I cannot stand Super Mario Galaxy 2 as its own game. If there was just one Mario Galaxy with Mario Galaxy 2's content added to it later on, then maybe lol
Well obviously it's my opinion lol if you thought Hotel Mario is your favorite then that would be your opinion too. It's all subjective, everyone has their reasons why they think something is their favorite.
I freakin' loved Odyssey, but for me, the experience that I got from Galaxy was incomparable. There wasn't anything like it at the time. On top of that, I found it much more challenging, and the amount of content was astronomical compared to Odyssey. I would get a Galaxy port on my Switch in a heartbeat.
But all of you odyssey haters, most of you don't like it because of one thing; it's too easy. I personally don't agree with this statement, but I have a way of getting around it none the less; try doing the major runs of the game, such as no jumping, no damage, minimal captures, no coins, combinations of those runs, or a separate run that interests you. These runs make odyssey so much more difficult, and if you think it is easy, try one out.
I'm glad people are enjoying Odyssey but I sometimes get bored with it and will take breaks playing it in favor of Zelda, Doom, and indie games.
Because Odyssey is a collect-athon and not as platforming focus. I don't have to platform to stomp a moon in the ground.
That's disappointing because Odyssey has the best handling gameplay.
I in some ways prefer Mario 3D World because it's platforming. I prefer a bunch of short variety of levels versus moons. And I'd rather finish crown world with all 5 characters than collect all the moons.
You should of named this favorite 3D Mario.
I think Mario World and Mario 3 would crush the 3D list, that's why they were left out. 😉 Odyssey still great though.
TheGoodNewsGamer check out The Escapists 2 if you haven’t yet.
I think Mario world is the best 2d Mario. But i don't think it holds a candle to Galaxy (2) or odyssey. They were left out because the 2d games are very different.
You're trying very hard not to let Galaxy beat Odyssey and it's showing. Remember, this is objective, and you cannot objectively say that exploration is better than linear. I think that there are too many moons in Odyssey that don't add anything to the game, they're just there. Busy work. Galaxy had more unique experiences for each level, and more levels. None of them were just there because the developers found it easy to put a star somewhere. Even when they simply hid a star like Odyssey, it was a)hidden, and b)took effort to make.
(Sorry for bad english btw)
There are two things that players need to do. Rate a game by Nostalgia and Rate a game by Critcs.
For exemple:
For Nostalgia, my favorite game is mario 64, beacuse i loved when i was a kid.
For critics i see Odyssey as the best, beacuse pick everything up and makes it better. The idea of planets on Mario Galaxy, now of Kingdoms on mario odyssey. The Freedom from Mario 64, the little bud from mario sunshine, but now with cappy. Everything connects.
Odyssey is definitely my favorite Mario game by far. I even enjoyed it more than Galaxy (and I LOVED Galaxy growing up). Also, in response to 2:31, I literally celebrate every time I collect a moon and dance to the little song.
I think there's no point in comparing the collectathon games (64, Sunshine, Odyssey) to the pure platformers (the rest of the 3d Mario games).
These are completely different genres.
I for example thought Odyssey will have more platforming and it ended up being 10% platforming and 90% casual collecting and unrelated minigames.
So it was a huge disappointment for me.
If we can't compare different games, how do we decide our favorite game of all time then?
Of course you can, it's just pointless.
+Raphael I admittedly would have liked more platforming.
Odyssey is an amazingly crafted game, and I loved it so so so much, but still. It doesn’t beat Super Mario Galaxy, I still think Galaxy is better than Odyssey, simply because their just different games but I grew up with Galaxy, Galaxy 1, to be exact, and man. What a game. Overall, I love Super Mario Odyssey, it’s truly a fantastic game, but. I still love Super Mario Galaxy much more, it was my first “big” game,
You should have put "3D" in the title.
It's a really good game but it doesn't beat Galaxy.
How?! Galaxy isn't all that great, I just don't get the love for it.
GBDupree you totally ignore Rosalinas existance, her Backstory, the cool gameplay and the *godtier MUSIC*
Max Eppensteiner if you call rosaries story a good story your crazy
*OPINIONS EXIST*
KingEnD3RmAn nothing to do with opinion rosalimas backstop is like it was made by a 8 year old girl
No
Super Mario Galaxy is the best
I'd probably prefer Galaxy. Linear games are better than open ended games. That's just a fact.
I have a life, I don't need a ton of freedom AKA busy work and time wasting to do what I want in a game. I play games to have a great experience. Linear games have better experiences because they're more focused on delivering one rather than expecting the player to make their own. Plain and simple.
95 times out of 100 I'd rather have a linear game. I like to space out my super open mega world games because otherwise they'd get boring so quickly and they take too long to play anyways. I still haven't finished Fallout 4. Not because I don't love the game, I really do actually. It's because a million different games have come out since Fallout came out, many of which I had to play. I'm not going to let that happen with Zelda BoTW though and I won't have to since it's portable which makes it much easier to keep up with.
Mario Galaxy is the best for me.
Yes, Odyssey is the best Mario game
Short answer: Yes
Going off of the Mario 64 argument in that it's not the best Mario game in 2018, could we also argue that Ocarina of Time isn't the best Zelda in 2018? Because it isn't.
Does it matter. It's all good as long as it's nintendo
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Now I feel I have to play Galaxy again, because I've not even touched it in multiple years.
This cannot be a serious question? C'mon? Best? Nah. Good though.
No. Odyssey is great but it's unbelievably short and packed with tons of filler. Hell 90% of the moons are given out for buying them, talking to people, ground pounding something shiny, a bunch of monotonous, boring, worthless moons basically just to get to 999. The purple coins are just kind of out there in the open or over a cliff, etc. The bosses are also forgettable.
Compared to Galaxy 1/2 it's just ok. It has superior mechanics but everything else is lacking. It is a very basic collect-a-thon. Even when compared to N64 games, which is saying a lot.
My favorite will always be Galaxy. This game is Second behind.
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@@jage6344 Odyssey>Galaxy.
I love Odyssey, but I would give it to Galaxy, In my on opinion Galaxy’s Music is sooo Much Better!!
I had more fun cleaning the goop in Sunshine than actually playing the game...until I got bored with that eventually. I do like Odyssey the best of all the 3D Mario games. I’m not a huge Mario fan, in fact I am more of a Zelda fan, but I like Odyssey more than BotW, it sadly has more of a story than BotW and it hasn’t bored me. Don’t get me wrong, BotW is a good game, but the lack of much of a story has turned me off.
For me, I think the list goes as following and don't take it as me hating any of them, I actually like them all in their own unique way.
SM64 > Super Mario Odyssey > Super Mario Galaxy (I didn't like the direct unnecessary sequel) > Super Mario Sunshine
Mario is Missing!, Mario's Time Machine and Mario's Time Machine are all tied for the top 3 games =D
Chamushgoo you put Mario’s Time Machine... twice. Oh! Maybe that’s how good you love the game
John I forgot about that game. It’s a 98/10 IGN
hotel mario? ehhhh
Have to disagree, Odyssey was great, but Galaxy is so much better. I thought Odyssey was way too easy.
And yes hell yes hell fucking yes I think Odyssey is better than Mario 64. And I'm not knocking on Mario 64 in anyway. After all Mario 64 is one of the best video games I've ever played but come on now. Taking off the Retro goggles and looking at the game for what it really is wall taking into effect how platformers of changed over the years. Because just because its a classic, it doesn't make Mario 64 any less immune to flaws. Of course one of the biggest flaws I can think of of Mario 64 is the goddamn camera. That camera is so freaking annoying. Then there's also the fact that the levels are pretty damn short. Mario has a limited moveset that while revolutionary in 1996, feels way more constricted when compared to something like Odyssey. And let's talk about boss battles, ridiculously simple and easy and of course there's the linear nature of the game. But then again, even years ago I thought Mario Sunshine was better than Mario 64 in Odyssey I feel like is better than Mario Sunshine. Or at least it's a tie.
Justin Drysdale even this game has flaws just like the others have. It does *not* recapture the Magic of 64 and Sunshine at all. It rather copied the games flaws (too many Rehashed missions and moons overall = 64 and unnecessary collectibles= Sunshine) and ignores them as if they wouldnt even exist.
I prefer Galaxy, but I am sure that it is because of nostalgia and the magic that is lost because I got older.
I like 64 the most
I'd say Super Mario 64 is considerably more mind blowing for it's time then Odyssey. Odyssey takes a lot of functionality from Galaxy (spinning the controller to use Cappy), and doesnt cross the same gap that 64 does when you consider it is the sequel to Super Mario World.
Odyssey is a fantastic game and I have not been able to put it down, but I don't want to discredit 64 as it started a lot of the mechanics used in modern 3D Mario games.
I feel like Galaxy is very discredited in this video, the platforming is very revolutionary and I think that trumps the non-sandbox gameplay. It is a very simple game as far as difficulty, but I totally agree that the linear gameplay has it's fair share of pro's and con's. For young players, it's definitely a great game that shows the player how to explore, and isn't as broad and complex as Odyssey.
In terms of difficulty, the consensus is that odyssey is easier than galaxy and especially galaxy 2.
Mario Galaxy and Mario Galaxy 2 are my favorite Mario games of all time. Odyssey just didn't feel the same and some worlds just felt really rushed. I haven't played any of the Mario Galaxy games in years but this felt much shorter and everything just felt so random.
Although odyssey is still my personal favorite game of all time, I still definetly agree with you here. I personally found the snow kingdom and the lake kingdom to be pretty disappointing. Also, the ruined kingdom would have made the perfect ghost level IMO.
yeah the snow kingdom was so boring I could not wait to get out of there
RyunaAustuna I felt that way for a lot of kingdoms, I just wanted to get out of them because they aren't interesting. I felt this way in the Snow Kingdom, Luncheon Kingdom, Moon Kingdom, Lost Kingdom and Bowser's Kingdom. I just tried to rush through them all and the game felt short. After completing the game you do get more stuff to do but what's the point after completing the story, there isn't much driving you to finish collecting all of the moons.
Where do you get the posters behind you?
trick question:
the answer is yes
Guys! My 3D Mario game collection! (What's yours?) :)
Super Mario 64 DS
Super Mario Sunshine
Super Mario Galaxy 2
Super Mario 3D Land
Super Mario 3D World
And very recently, Super Mario Odyssey!
I want to play mario odyssey so bad but I still have to wait for my switch😢
You forget about the last masterpiece
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No, because Galaxy exists. Still great tho
what's so great about Galaxy outside atmosphere and music? It is the worst 3D Mario to me, its too sluggish and has bland level design most of the time with lots of padding personally. It does have a lot of gimmicks, but those are meant to distract you from the bad platforming, unlike the other games whose gimmicks add to the platforming and controls. I just don't get the love for it when 3D World did the exact same thing but better in every way.
Galaxy 1 is a complete masterpiece. Galaxy 2 is also great though.
GBDupree 3D World was a multiplayer 3Dish Mario game that felt more like a 2D or 2.5D platformer rather than 3D, while yes Galaxy is linear, its gameplay and Level Design at least *adapted to what it was*, which Odyssey didnt at all (to me anyways).
3D world was just as much 3d as Galaxy, it just didn't try to hide the fact it was linear and instead embraced it allowing for more involved platforming challenges (also helped by having more moves like 64/sunshine did that galaxy took away). And it still did have more open areas too.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by "adapted to what it was" though.
GBDupree Nothing, that's just it: the music and atmosphere. Also the level design.
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To be honest I prefer the length of galaxy 1 and 2, but the freedom and gameplay does keep it at a close tie for me between odyssey and galaxy (odyssey having the better gameplay and freedom)
I prefer the linearity in Galaxy 2 and the platforming overall. Odyssey has the same issue as some open world games, I just get bored after spending some time in a map looking for 50 moons.
sunshine is better in my opinion lmao
Abstract Cities sunshine has way to many flaws
Okay I’m going say this. I love Mario Odyssey it’s like a great game like 10/11 let me go over the pros and the con.
Pros
-Metro Kingdom is just an accurate take on NYC good job Nintendo :)
-For the people who find the game not challenging there’s a level called “Darker Side”, this level was very difficult, I would recommend it to people who want a challenge or galaxy fans anyways
-Visuals, just look at this game it’s looks like galaxy but boost up the budget by 9000 $. I really love it
-You can do cool challenges, (this is for people who like the game) if you played odyssey a million times there’s challenges you can do, right now I’m attempting if you can beat the get without touching a coin, or you can do no jumping?
-Soundtrack. This soundtrack is just my favourite. For example the metro kingdom music is just so amazing, you know that the creators are putting lots of effort into this game if you just hear this soundtrack.
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Con
- The dang kingdoms, the following kingdoms are the ones that I don’t dislike but just not interested in, Snow kingdom, Snow kingdom, lost kingdom (well what do you expect it only has 3 moons) , food kingdom.( I loved food but the world played out disappointing).
And that’s it this is my opinion if someone comments “Oh odyssey sucks and galaxy is better” I’m going flip. I don’t think anyone will see this but I’m putting my feelings about the game.
I do prefer galaxy but only slightly but on cons you forgot to mention the length odyssey is amazing still
Mario Odyssey is the best 3D Super Mario game..
Followed by Super Mario 64
Everything is secondary.
I finally found a amazing UA-camr that pronounces Mario the way I do 😁
It's missing one thing. Difficulty. There are small spurts of difficulty, but not enough to save it. Its an incredible game, but Galaxy 2 is the best for me.
Really? Most challenges took me at least two tries. Its not hard but its not easy.
HeavyDonkeyKong You must be bad at platformers then.
HeavyDonkeyKong No doubt there are some challenging parts. But I just feel like Galaxy 2 was harder and I love a good challenge.
Uh... No. I'm a veteran at mario. Ive been playing platformers for over a decade. So no, I'm not bad. What gives you the right to insult somebody who found a game more difficult than you did?
+Matthew Arias YOU on the other hand, are a lot more polite. And yes I can agree that Galaxy 2 was harder.
I agree with everything you just said. I could have said it myself, but your accent makes it sound better
No. The game is massively overrated in my opinion. Not challenging and sure people will say getting all the moons is hard which I agree but story wise this doesn’t stack up to previous Mario titles. Bring on Mario sunshine Hd with a better camera I say
Roy No Odyssey is the best game ever!!!
PokeJake 28 No! Fanboi
Odyssey has the best story. Also, Sunshine HAS a story but its not good.
There's some pretty tough levels in the game, not sure you've done them yet. I'd say it had harder things in it than anything in Mario 64 unless you count bad camera angles as "challenge." It had harder stuff than Galaxy or Galaxy 2, though their "hardest" levels were harder than this one. I'd say the only harder 3D Mario is Sunshine and that's only counting some of the non-water pack levels, pachinko, lava boat, and poison river leaf level. *shudder*
Sunshine IMO was the easiest. The leaf level is overrated, why? Because you can walk on the rails and use the hiver nozzel and completely cheese the Shine. Most of the levels arent that challenging outside of 1 or 2 secret stages.
IMO, Super Mario 3D Woeld is the hardest.
It’s great but the best one is easily galaxy in my opinion.
I thought Odyssey was an extremely overrated game. Playing it I had fun and thought it was pretty well made but the moons are so forgettable. They keep using the same ideas throughout the WHOLE game and the difficulty never highs up. The possessions are in their majority, previous Mario power ups but with limited mobility. And others are just not well used. Wow you can be a T-Rex and... Destroy some stone blocks?
Pretty much how i felt about the game before i reached the 'endgame'. Im having more fun with it now I have access to every Moon in every world and can get them whenever i want, in what order i want.
CasualGamePlayz Yeap. In the begginning I was very confused with the moon limitation bc I was trying to get as many as I could before progressing.
I feel the same and agree
agree. It's slowly become more acceptable to call Odyssey overrated. Post this around the time it got released you'd get slaughtered. I had my fun with it, but I've not gone back since I beaten it and did 2-3 hours or post game. I just didn't find the challenges fun, and didn't really care to explore these kingdoms. 999 moons is just excessive.
Agreed 100%
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Unpopular opinion: 3D World is my favorite. But it's a different kind of game and doesn't really belong in this list.
You forgot 3D Land.
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Angel Rodriguez
I agree.
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3D Land and 3D World were kinda meh in my opinion.
I felt like odyssey felt like a sequel to galaxy
Replaying all of them sunshine is the most fun
I haven't played Odyssey (or Galaxy) yet, but Sunshine really was such a fun and charming game that I keep coming back to it, the same way I do with SMW, Mega Man 2 and CV:SOTN. That's gotta count for something.
Nick Wallette same! I think odyssey is the better game but I cannot deny the fun factor that sunshine has this video doesn’t do it justice if sunshine was remade in odyssey graphics with odyssey controls it would be perfect
You didn't talk about Super Mario 3D Land but otherwise, great video!
Super Mario RPG Legend Of The Seven Stars.
+Wired Coffee
That is a good game
The Sunshine hate…triggers me every time. lol smh I LOVED FLUDD. Went back and played the game a year ago…STILL LOVE FLUDD. It was the first time we got a companion who advanced the platforming and redefined the parameters of Mario’s jumping ability (Not a loose comparison at all…it’s exactly the same lol ). It even gains new abilities (albeit far LESS) throughout the gameplay which allow you to complete different missions and even discover secrets in the game…just like Cappy. It was the early version of this which was continued throughout the Galaxy games.
On top of this, the feeling of moving around by diving, sliding, then fludding over enemies or even using the different FLUDD abilities felt GREAT to me. It also added a shooting element into the platforming (which is not going to be everyone’s thing…but I personally liked it and feel that it isn’t OBJECTIVELY bad).
This whole “These childhood games aren’t as good as you think they were” argument to make Odyssey into the end all be all is getting very annoying lol I LOVE Odyssey, I personally feel that it is the better overall game…right now. lol The dust has barely settled, and we haven’t gotten to see how it will age AT ALL. Most of the issues with it are that it’s too much of a collectathon for very little reward, and that will definitely come more into play as time takes its toll on the game. In the meantime…let’s not take others power ups, so that our game stands taller. lol
Last thing…Galaxy is not REALLY an open world game. It’s a Sandbox game…with REALLY BIG Sandboxes lol Don’t get me wrong, it’s DOPE! Again, probably the best 3D game imo at the time, but it’s not open world. You can exhaust the actual space quite easily. The fun comes from exploration within the fairly frequent walls, and entering into sub-sandboxes within those walls as well. It’s a Sandbox adventure with the aesthetic of an open world game. One COULD argue that the Mario 64 castle felt more open world (although it was clearly a hub) than Galaxy. In said hub, you actually find tons of secrets (including other worlds and sandboxes). Things happen there. What do you do on the ship?…Fly to other Sandboxes lol It’s just stage selection. I don’t understand how THAT is open world, while Galaxy (though not quite as expansive as 64 in the ways I’ve mentioned) is not.
Can you do a video like this, but for The Legend of Zelda
Seb Sports gosh he will get so much backlash 😂
Alberto Garza 😂 true
"is majoras mask better than ocarina of time?"
short answer: yes
The best Mario games off all time are
•super Mario Bros 3
•super Mario world
•Mario galaxy series
•new super Mario Bros
•Mario odyssey
•Mario maker
•Mario Kart double dash
•Mario 64
Not in that order tho.