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Hey sorry if this is getting annoying, but can you do videos on Peter Kemp’s two other books?
Highly realistic,
Mmm yes the community has ensured it
>video is about communism
>capitalist as fuck company
Can you make a video on Karl Popper and his critique of Marx and Hegel?
When are you updating your pronouns?
3:00 I believe the greatest irony of Marxism, is that the least industrialized places were those which communism succeeded the most.
Please read Lenin on this bit, according to him the most industrialized nations in Europe had achieved an Imperialist stage, it meaning that now was me of the most powerful parts of the capitalist chain (Lots of colonies, able to export poverty and capital across the planet, large and powerful assertion of Military power etc.)
That’s is why Social democracy was on the rising in Western Europe they could afford the luxury of maintaining an more “accommodated” working class at home and better maintaining the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie
@@pablojn4826.
An ironic analysis given how Lenin would launch imperialism of his own to conquer the former Tsarist lands of eastern Europe.
Besides, the zero sum world Lenin talked of is disproven by the development of eastern Europe and East Asia.
@@williamfrancis5367 Explain the latter point
It's the fact that Marxism was primarily revolutionary being entirely focused on fighting against systems that use force, most commonly semi-feudal or ex-colonial societies that are capitalistic enough to allow for Marxism to exist but are still reliant on force in order to exist.
But socialism either dissolves or gets turned into a tool for reinforcing the current system when faced with actual capitalism. As capitalism always used temptation in order to exert itself, not force.
@@williamfrancis5367 What lands in Eastern Europe?
Interesting video. I like the distinctions that you made between the different classes. You make a good point about the distinctions between the rural working class (peasants) and urban working class (proletariat). They really are two distinct groups of people with distinct interests, which is why you often see them pitted against each other by contemporary politicians. It makes sense why the former, being more self-sufficient, would be more supportive of the anarchists: they don’t require civilization as much to survive. This is actually a topic that I’d like to see you go further in depth on: where their interests overlap, where they converge, and how they’re pitted against each other.
The ruralists are simply superior to the Urban bugman. This is due to being more independent in economics and in thought. Hence the great hostility to the class by our current crop of tyrants.
@@semi-useful5178 same proletarian conditions apply to both
@lauri oho Not really. In fact, the reason why communism was able to get off the ground in the first place was because of the proletariat. The living conditions of that class is INCREDIBLY different. Being in a rural area there's basically no-one to exploit you. You know your boss personally and your boss doesn't answer to anyone but himself. You have dinner with him because you go hunting together and are often neighbors. Or you work in a small local store which serves everyone whose owner you directly answer to. At worst, you're a corporate farmer who really is too focused on maintaining your animals to really give much of a shit about much else and are very unlikely to be in it for the money. Or if you are in it for the money, you actually make something fairly decent. The peasants also have their small piece of land they manage and can generally do whatever they want with.
In comparison, the proletariat is the inner city apartment dwellers trying to work two jobs to stay afloat. They answer to a manager who has their own bosses to answer to long up the chain, everyone hates their job and probably even hates their co-workers and 50/50 on hating their boss. The proletariat is the classic Democrat little guy. The person who works hard, living on subsistence in a tiny shoebox within a filthy and uncaring city.
Subsistence for the peasant is generally far better in comparison in terms of life satisfaction since you know your neighbors (even if they're not necessarily close by), you know your boss generally well, and even with a hard days work you have yourself a corner to call all your own with people bothering you being optional.
While the proletariat is just the bottom rung drone of a long line of inputs into a very large business that he has no investment in and owns nothing in his life, the peasant (while still bottom rung) knows what he's doing and why and has a community around him to keep things together and working.
@@buddermonger2000
Do you actually have citations in MLA or APA format to back your claim?
I think you do a good job of explaining different political theories without too much bias. Using Polandball to do it makes those lessons easier.
No bias? This video never even represent marxist class analysis. Much less consider it
@@ThnbAnimatrll Just because you believe MArxism means something specific, it does not nescessarily mean you are correct. I have noticed that most marxists are not even aware of what the communist manifesto, or anything Marx wrote really, actually is.
Won't even mention the fact that at the end of his life Marx refuted his own ideas because this might lead some to commit suicide. It's like a religion.
@@YanPagh Does this justify never explaining actual Marxist class analysis at all? An honest critique would be to present Marxism and present counter arguments
@@ThnbAnimatrll you assume this was not already been done ad nauseum
@@YanPagh you are boiling down marxisl to the communist manifesto, which is outdated, and the ideas that marx held (which ones ? his positions constantly changed depending on the situation around him, and his level of knowledge on the subject). marxism is a bit more than that, it is an entire lens by which we analyse the world, and frankly, the name "marxism" is misleading since it might as well be called communism
It should also be noted that self-sufficiency breeds conservatism. In economically dynamic cities, progress is the norm. In the countryside, where the people have always had the same way of life, the status quo is usually maintained. This can explain why rural areas often hew conservative.
Of course, there's also the progressive/conservative split present in the cities themselves. Most of the ML vanguard were upper/middle class; Lenin himself was minor nobility, and Marx was the son of a very wealthy father. Many of the lower class, however, were quite conservative (see the "Black Hundreds" movement). The upper class, focused as they are on education and philosophy, often swing to radical ideas, mentioned in the video as changing to a more virtuous class. The lower classes often lack access to such resources, and as such tend to cling much more tightly to what they do have: tradition. The best example of this is religiosity; the upper class vanguard despised religion of all types, even as their followers were often quite religious. It was an ongoing project in the early USSR to re-educate the populace out of those habits (which mostly failed, seeing how quickly the post-Soviet populace flocked back to religion. Even in China, there's a huge religious underground the state very much does not want to talk about)
Christianity is exploding in China, despite the CCP's best efforts. China is really losing any sense of mission. Mao failed, so they seek out something else. Nationalism is the closest to an ideology there these days, hence the more efficient economy and the genocide of the Uighers.
The Chinese religious underground is really not talked about,
just like they don’t talk about how it’s suspicious easy to get organ donations in china
You forgot the use of criminals by vanguardism as a way to get loyal obstinate operatives.
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"In spite the fact it doesn't even work." absolute legend
Literally every communist state was a horrible dictatorship. The only reason it's so popular is because people, including Marx had this primitive view of the economy and that it is some zero sum game where to be wealthy you must have stolen from sumoane .
Truth
When people are displeased enough with the current system they will be willing to accept even they most disfunctional of radical ideologies.
@@thebandofbastards4934 Libertarians & Communists
Call me Ezekiel trying not to shit on communism for 0.00001 seconds challenge:
Considering how awful it is as a ideology, that’s understandably difficult.
@@Bronasaxon westoid
@@nikinikipikipiki8547 Nice. Try better next time.
@@nikinikipikipiki8547 Great deflection with the bigotry.
@@nikinikipikipiki8547 Funnily enough the people who hate communism the most are in eastern Europe. Even Putin hates communism.
I love how if I didn't know any better, I'd think I was watching a Victoria tutorial.
12:26 this is interesting. Do you think you could do a video on Vanguardism in the American and French revolutions at some point?
Strategy stuff already did a great series on them:
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@@CallMeEzekiel can you do similar videos on various nationalist ideologies and white army?
11:26 I remember Rothbard also said during the WW1 the Russian elite lost "will to power", and simply either left or switched sides. A good observation
Fantastic analysis on this specific subject, thank you!
Another great video. Keep up the great work. Peace ✌🏻
Hello nice to have another video.
FInally someone said it out loud. Capitalism is not a friend of freedom, neither is communism or any political ideology in the world. You are a friend to your own freedom, and if you see it being infringed upon by any means, fight back.
Capitalism in itself is anti freedom. It's not a coincidence most corporations are strict hirarchies
Well communism is but socialism isnt
@@ino1820 Communism isn’t your friend either. It’s defiantly not
@@enriqueperezarce5485 its the means for a happy end or beggining
People also then need to understand that freedom is the enemy of Freedom as well.
The music is awsome! The theme from HoI4 and the theme from Papers Please!
I love the Polandballs mixed with Wojak animations.
On the ending note of the video, the next one should be about the End of History...and the last man.
United forever through friendship & labor
Our mighty republics will ever endure
The great Soviet Union will live through the ages
The dream of a people, their fortress secure
I really like the title cards inspired by Papers Please lol
I just found this channel and just wanna say. This is so incredibly cool
ezekiel: only two super powers to exist
britain between 1500-1950: do i exist to you
I wonder what the next Politics video will be about
Love these videos of yours, and if you’d like to hear my ideas I’d love to see you make a video on Ukrainian Peoples Republic or on the Baltics.
6:40 the petty bourgeoisere is a more specific category that the middle class. A closer equivalent would be upper middle class or white collar.
It's the opposite- it's the LOWER middle class (a literal translation of "petit bourgeois" would be "small town dweller"). It's composed of small business owners, independent contractors lower management and the like, and Marxists consider them to be a sort of envious sub-strata of the bourgeoisie proper who are typically aspiring to have more success than they have, with Marx himself considered them the losers of the bourgeoisie who will see what little power and prestige they have gradually erode as capitalism reaches its breaking point.
The term for the upper middle class is "haute bourgeoisie", though that is much more obscure.
Like your art style
Papers, Please music is epic
Yes another upload
5:46 Venezuelan here. This part got me laughing offendedly
Does anyone know what the song at 12:14 is?
Neoreactionariism is also popular in the right-wing intelligenzia. Pretty much where it originated in, I mean cmon, just look at Moldbug.
"Vladimir Lenin popularised political vanguardism as conceptualised by Karl Kautsky, detailing his thoughts in one of his earlier works, What is to be done?.[1] Lenin argued that Marxism's complexity and the hostility of the establishment (the autocratic, semi-feudal state of Imperial Russia) required that a close-knit group of individuals pulled from the working class vanguard to safeguard the revolutionary ideology within the particular circumstances presented by the Tsarist régime (Russian Empire) at the time. While Lenin wished for a revolutionary organisation akin to the contemporary Social Democratic Party of Germany, which was open to the people and more democratic in organisation, the Russian autocracy prevented this."
This barked at the wrong tree on Capitalism. Of course, individuals look out for themselves. The problem comes when the government gets power over more than the minimal scope it should have. When people believe the lie that the world will be better if politician X favors certain groups, those groups become cronies. That's not capitalism anymore. That's cronyism.
You get more of what you incentivize and get less of what you tax. Of course, dead weight loss due to taxes means taxes do more harm than good in government transfers.
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Can you make a video about the yugoslav partisans
Love the Arstotzka theme!!
HOI4 music for a War Thunder advertisement
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You should do a video on Kornilov's attempted coup.
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Within 22 hours!
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3:16 where is the goat, north korea
Would say one of three super powers - you forgot the British
Sorry mate the British were never considered a superpower, only a great power.
@@EndoClaw 1815-1914
I see the British as a proto superpower instead of a full fledged superpower
It never had dominance over Europe since balance of power y'all and got restricted out of certain African colonies by other colonial powers and in the Americas due to the Monroe Doctrine, while it and other Europena powers were prevented from carving out China by the US. Plus the technological limitations of the times
In contrast, the US and USSR had full reign on intervening all around the world and space.
@@genghiskhan5701 Pax britannica brought the UK as the world’s sole superpower. They didn’t have any rivals and that allowed them to hold their position.
I see you're a fellow Brother Hao enjoyer.
3:12 You FORGOT *BEST* KOREA
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at this point im confused if eyekiel is left or not XD
I think he's a left leaning centerist.
@@Demicleas same
I think he’s libertarian, or at least he has libertarian sympathies.
I think you're overthinking it
He’s more likely a right leaning libertarian.
Absolutely epic
At the end of the video you claim that the PRC is trying to go back to it's roots. that is a lie the PRC never gave up marxism leninism they just changed from a stalinist interpretation to the interpretation favored by Lenin and Burkhain call the NEP (new economic policy). Deng said multiple times during the 80s that chinese reform was influenced by Burkhain and the NEP, and NEP theory was taught heavily to the PRC party cadres during the 80s during the reform and opening up. To this day, the PRC still maintain complete government control over large and important industries and only really allowed liberalization of medium and small size business which is basically what occurred under the NEP in the 1920s
This.
The Cold War never ended, it just took a break
china did abandon socialism in the 90s after deng xiaoping, jiang zemin turned it borderline laissez faire
Aren't it 5 like North Korea?
4? What about North Korea?
Juche Gaming Poggers
North Korea is basically a tyrannical Legalist Confucianist state
Ju he doesn’t count as their an offshoot and not a mainstream communist country or not that divergent like Maoism
Dude, you didn't read the book. I can tell.
Is north korea considered communist?
Yes but not conventionally. The Ideology is Juche. Which in of itself is an Offshoot of Marxist-Leninism. However Juche is distinguished by an Extreme Emphasis on Isolationism.
TLDR: they wanted it more
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"It doesn't even work". Damn, there goes hundreds of years of theory and practice
he forgot best korea(north korea)
Alright I gotta say it, and maybe it’s just my way of defining it but there have been plenty more superpowers than the USA & USSR. The latest yes but the British Empire was a super power, as was Rome and ancient China. They didn’t have nukes, planes or tanks but they still conquered the landscape in more than just military terms.
5:24
I completely disagree with you. Even in the country in which I live - that is a ridiculous joke to even imply on.
ESPECIALLY about economic interests.
Most people in the world do not even understand which economic system will benefit themselves (doesn't matter what their political ideology is).
You're talking about class consciousness here. You can have no idea what is your standing and what's good for you, but that doesn't change that you have certain socioeconomic standing, and you will gain/loose sth after ceratin changes are implemented.
@@filiprohn1643
Like like everything in this world, everything affects everything...
But it doesn't mean that if a person gains from a government policy - it absolutely doesn't mean he knows that. He can also be fiercely against the policies/governments that benefits him because of ignorance and populism.
Only because there are changes, it doesn't mean you change which political faction you support.
The vast vast vast majority of people votes out of emotions. Not their socio-economic situation.
Of course, it can affect their emotions, but that is only an incredibly small part out of what affects their emotions...
All classes have some interests in mind, all classes want to have products and benefit from each other. You can argue, but all classes have a vested interest in each other.
@@enriqueperezarce5485
All people have vested interests in each other!
It took over cause it sounded good
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It's excellent.
The petit bourgeois is more a self-employed person, and artisan that works alone. Most of them could be considered middle class, but so are a lot of proletariat. But you did say it was non marxist approach to class.
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Why don't you cite sources?
Angola still exists.
Glory to Arstotzka!
Arstotzka Is so great you dont need passport, right?
After this video on Marxism-Leninism, I'd advise to read some Marx and Lenin ...
...the answer is the US department of state
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RAD
5:40 jajajajjajaja lo peor es que es verdad
venezolano?
@@zinedinepartipilo4960 si
Propaganda para los Angloparlantes que miran a EE.UU como un santo repartiendo ayudas humanitarias sin presión política o militar en absoluto! Que harán? Extender un bloqueo económico para forzar un cambio político de un país tercermundista para saquear sus recursos naturales con la ayuda de firmas privadas? Nunca lo harían!
Yo cuando vi eso me moleste riendome
It is a cult.
Try to explain me how it doesn't work. Explain me what didn't work and what should achieved that it did not? Try to explain to the Global South why it's worst than what we have now.
Y'know, I may not agree with your takes and opinions on ML itself, but the history is pretty eye opening even towards a modern tankie. The Bolsheviks should not be seen as ideal models of what the revolution should be, rather a case study into what worked, what didn't, and why leftist politics broadly are on their back foot here in the west.
Yes, the Bolsheviks seizing all power was a fluke and if it wasn't for that socialism and other far left ideas would be far behind where it would. The only difference between you and I is how exactly we see this event.
What do you know? What have moderate socialists ever achieved? Only the radicals got even remotely close to a socialist state. The only thing moderates ever did was to betray the working class again and again.
Can you explain me why 0:36 "socialism doesnt work" despite the Soviet Union stopping regular famines Tsarist Russia had.
Even if you dont support socialism, I think you need to acknowledge some facts.
Russia under the Tsar was poorly developed and barely industrialised, but when the bolsheviks took power it rapidly industrialised.
If socialim doesnt work, how then did it manage to launch the first satelite into space? How then did the soviet union manage to launch the first man into space?
How then was it a feared opponent of the USA?
First off the Holodomor happened, second the Bolsheviks forced industrialization killing millions in the process. Third the Soviet Union poured huge chunks of GDP into the military. Hence why they were feared, but collapsed under their own weight. Also having military achievements doesn’t mean a ideology works
of course it works. People who say dumb shit like that are just (probably wilfully) ignorant because it's ideologically convenient for them.
The soviet union received a LOT of help from the west. The original revolution itself was financed by wall street and lend-lease bailed Soviet industry during ww2
@@roshansundar6618 quite the opposite, alot of countries fought against the ussr in the civil war, and after the soviets won it got sanctioned and pretty much excluded from politics.
But yes, during ww2, the allies' lend-lease to the soviets had a huge impact on the war.
But you cant forget that the russian industry along with its people was hurt the most, and the country was only a few years out of a civil war. (The allies all had hundreds of years of growth and colonies etc.)
No@@roshansundar6618
"Only one of two superpowers to ever exist"? Bro, British Empire would like a word-
Class identity is no more than a consequence of spatially concentrated envy, don't overblow it. "Stockholm syndrom" and trade affiliation are seperate sociogens, but fusion of either together is not impossible.
But you gotta learn from the slavic perseverance either way
I think this is... Partial
They totally failed though.
Brisket
Bolsheviks did give all the peasents land as they promised so it would be wrong to say that they repressed peasants after taking power. Only those landlords who own too much land that they hire the most poor peasants to work their land would object to it. Which noone should take seriously anyway.
Extreme poverty and war is the rule in capitalism. And it is proven with marx's capital and lenin's imperialism theories. Time and time again we see their theories confirmed even to this day. So in those conditions that people die of starvation, homelessness and endless wars, the revolution for peace bread and land is the most important thing no matter what. Revolutionary party would have to do anything to stop this massacre of millions. And they did end the war with popular support.
One thing you don't mention in your videos is that other than kerensky's goverment, there are soviet organizations happening all around the country. And when we look at the soviet support of bolsheviks we can see the revolution was a popular support for bolsheviks and not just a power vaccuum. If it were a power vaccum only, than Social-revolutionaries, mensheviks or other leftwing political groups may take it. But Leninist bolsheviks succeeded and succeeded more than once in more than one country. So presenting it as just luck is simply wrong.
Unable to govern a country is always a condition for change be it reformist or revolutionary.
Vanguardism is not manipulating the class. As you explained, it is just teaching the class their interests and show them the need to rule. When capitalists wage war and make you live in poverty and hunger, workers die in millions because of it, you can see it clearly as a war. Every war has officers and generals. The vanguard party is the officers of the working class which work in democratic centralist structure as Lenin pointed out. It is as simple as that.
Cope and seethe, the soviet union is gone
@@roshansundar6618 yes and the world paid for it
2:45 3:14
''succeeded'' is a strong word
Great video, just a reminder that corporatism and capitalism are not necessarily the same. Capitalism is based on a free market (as in no interfearance from the state), while corporatism needs a state (to lobby and play on political corruption).
There is two type of corporatism and I am not sure which one you mean.
I think the difference is a moot point. Capitalism just mean trade and industry are owned by private owner. Whether or not they are free market is a separate matter that probably shouldn’t be conflated.
The Market is but a tool. Much like a gun it should be carefully managed and not waved about willy-nilly lest you shoot your neighbor's dog or yourself.
@@semi-useful5178 Do tell what happens every time someone tries to do that.
By all means, read the wealth of nations, understand how a market works. Communists were proven wrong, but what to expect from an economic hypothesis without an economical model.
(an economical model is a complex set of mathematical equations that can take up to five six days (3 to 4 minutes currently due to Excell) to solve in order NOT to get people killed/starved to death if the economical model does not work/is flawed.
What makes Marxism and communism economical hypothesis, not theories.
@@YanPagh
I am very much aware. But you can't let a garden become overgrown because then weeds choke out the fruits. Monopolies need to be crushed, environmental disasters punished, and local businesses cultivated.
Trotskyite Jibber Jabber
I’m a trotskyist and i approve this comment
@@aestronom1920 Trotskyite Jibber Jabber
@@nomorelibsplease1975r i hate myself too btw
@@aestronom1920 good
Wuh
Based Lenin👀
You shall convert to brisket
7:35 What class war against which peasants, by whom? You need to cite examples or else your claims are baseless.
Surprisingly accurate, i expected that youre gonna strawman us into oblivion(but 0:45, well stalin isnt the only bolshevik, trotzky and bucharin wouldnt have done that, and Stalin in General was kinda an idiot).
Edit: You missed the marxist class Analysis.
Liberal trying explain marxism in a 16 minutes video without opening a single book:
(I recommend to watch this, had a lot of fun)
А кто может "эксплейн марксизм"?
reading marxist economic theory has just as much value as reading books written by flat earthers
'how did they rise to power?' because capitalism is also horribly flawed
You wish red cultist
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 what screams red scare boomer more then calling someone a 'red cultist' lmfao, I didn't even say I was a communist
@Emel_unlegit nothing says quasi-illiterate twat such as throwing around the tired gaslighting deflection "Red Scare." You also said the Boomer meme but that I just couldn't care about in comparison.
You blatantly calling yourself a communist or not is relevant to you licking their boots, aspirations, and legacies, nearly every chance you get.
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 wow, never seen a more angry British (assumption just as you assumed I was a commie) writing so much yet saying so little, just deal with the fact people don't always agree with you, it's the internet. It's ironic for me to say it but you can't just escalate a discussion massively because someone disagrees with you, that's just immature.
@Emel_unlegit you're in desperate need of taking your own sentiments to mind if you felt the need to state people on the internet will indeed disagree when that was evidently already clearly apparent. Accept it yourself. I already did.
Well,let's say the russian whites were unbased.
Fun fact: Wrong.
@@moritamikamikara3879 Fun fact: right
they were based on the zionist movement that emerged in the 19th century
@@NBrioDaZueraRules ???
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8:38 if the "capitalists" exorcise power in order to control others (presumably without their consent) then either they are not capitalists or libertarians are not capitalists
libertarian ideas on the market can be simplified to something like "voluntary exchange predicated on the idea that property rights are human rights"
it is important to define terms when speaking on ideas otherwise misinterpretations are assured.
Capitalists are not libertarians by any stretch. They happy coexist with the state, fear the state, and expect the state's intervention.
@Slovenly Gulf City American
Do you actually have citations in MLA or APA format to back your claim?
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